 Yeah, I mean obviously he did a great job of grossing over 60 yards We're still working on you know the the distance the direction the hang time all that stuff But you know there's a lot of things that that cause that you know We're backed up and we're trying to gain field position and trying to you know help out our defense as much as we possibly can Do we give up some bigger returns? Yes, but there's also You know reward for it to where we could end up You know causing a penalty to to help us out so there's different things that we can go into We're going to continue to work with stony and hitting his his best ball Distance and hang time But yeah, that was just one of the things that we're just looking for him to get as much distance as we possibly can on some of those kicks As far as you got to ten and four yards, I think on the last drive. How's he doing as far as? Kind of finding some comfort especially in the putter turn game Yeah, I think each and every game that he goes out there. He's building more confidence You know, he's done a great job of coming up there catching That was one of our goals last year is to catch all the punts Didn't happen last year this year is the same deal So he's done a really good job of coming up there and he made some difficult catches The guy from the Chargers does a great job getting hang time I think we had one at like five two on the hang time There's like three guys around him But he does a really good job of catching the ball and then the last one I thought we played really good complementary football. He goes and catches the ball Gets up field gets 11 yards helps out our offense. So really really happy with what he's doing right now To be honest with you I don't really think much of it right now until the league comes out and says that this is what we're gonna do You know, we'll take that and stride each one of us special teams coaches But as of right now, we're just going to what we have and if we're gonna kick off And try to pin them deep. That's what we're gonna try to do fair catches Don't seem like they've been much of a thing through the league through two weeks. I think that changes later Yeah, it could you know It's interesting, you know, that was the big talk of the all-season house It's gonna be a big effect with the fair catches like you said, there's only been a couple of that I've seen so far So really it's it's a week by week Whether teams start to feel comfortable on their kickoff return if they don't you might see more fair catches But for right now, it's kind of status quo and people are doing what they need to do How nice is it just having him being able to come in here be a pro and settle in right away? Yeah, it's been great You know having a guy that's done it for quite some time He's got this it's not a Crazy confidence, but it's like hey, I'm here. I've done it before and it's like it's no big deal So when he marched out there to kick that 41 yard field goal I think you know the whole sidelines had the confidence that he was gonna go and make it and he never gets too high He never gets too low. So really happy with him and Obviously with a game-winning kick That was that was pretty cool to see You know those guys have their own Little thing that they like to do whether it's them going to kick the ball in the net whether they visualize certain things I let them do what they they need to do. So I might give them a thumbs up But but really I just kind of let them do what they do and then go and cheer them on when they make a game-winning kick Practice squad players are called up. Usually it's for depth purposes for offense or defense But how much input do you have into that in terms of I need a guy who can you know cover up on or something? Yeah, I mean really that's it's coach Vrabel's call coach Vrabel will come and talk to me about certain things You know, I maybe asked my opinion on certain guys that are doing really well in practice I think that's a great thing about us as an organization. We reward players who work really hard in practice guys who You know are really into the details of certain things So they they earn the right to come up, which I love So, you know really it's coach Vrabel's call or Rand's You know just ask my opinion and I'll give it to him and we can go from there You know, who knows You know, it's funny because I saw the play obviously on TV And I think one of the announcers said that's the first time he's seen that it's been around I know when I was coaching with the Chargers The the Raiders used to do it. So They just did it to the field. So, you know hats off to the Patriots. They did a really good job You can tell who they were trying to key off of But yeah, it's a copycat league So I would imagine a lot of teams will work on it and you know might add their own little twist to it Their own little wrinkle to it But you know, who knows it could end up showing with the Titans. You never know It's a copycat league I mean you might find things here and there that people change up and you're like, oh, wow I haven't seen that before like even today And it was something really really small when I was watching another game from around the league And it was really with technique So you might see a few things maybe here and there but for the most part It's people copy off of it and just add a little twist to it a trick play in terms of when to use it as far as You know, is it a certain look? Is it a down and distance that you're looking for a spot on the field? Does all that play a factor into it? Oh, sure. Yeah I mean down and distance is huge where you're at when coach for able tells us it's on You know, so that's you know things that I'm sure a lot of coordinators and us included will look at each and every week But yeah, there's a lot of things that come into play whether you run a fake whether you run something on the field goal block unit That's just something that we study and we try to take advantage of whether it's rules or we see something that We feel like we can take advantage of Yeah, it's a game of injuries But you know, you never want to see nothing like that happen Especially to a player like Nick Chubb special player on the best backs in the league and you know, they're just Trying to make a physical run and finish your run and in the end of that way You never want to see that happen But yeah, man, just you know knowing him for a while and you know knowing how hard he works And know all the backs just trying to get out there and showcase our talents and do whatever we can to Help our teams win and you know, just do whatever we can to show Our our value to each team and I know those guys her work hard and do that every day But this is an unfortunate situation Yeah, I'll talk to him I'm praying for him and you know wish him all the best and he was in good spirit. So I made me feel good Yeah, I think they're just their fast fast flow guys fly around Get to the ball real fast. Obviously, they're just disruptors with their past rushes I'm I was Garrett, you know him playing basketball and getting to the quarterback. Um, but a good linebackers Um Got good cover guys. I think they're all all all around solid defense and um, there's gonna be a tough task coming Sunday Going into that second game starting to maybe get a rhythm with this You know with how tim calls the game and and with the new pieces that have been added this off season man, I know it's um Great momentum to going in this game coming off last week A lot of guys got opportunity to make plays and a lot of guys should be confident going in this week trying to make plays and um Form up and do do great things sunday So, you know, I know a lot of guys just excited to be out here and get reps in and letting transition to sunday Um, this is trying to do anything I can uh possible Just so we can make a play happen and get a big play Um, but I was a great playing the game with uh, ryan and trailing ryan gave him a good ball trailing Whatever made a big play and um the play actually working well for us. Hopefully it can continue But I think we do all the other stuff well than those things that happen But we just got to continue working on it and being great at everything else How much fun is that triple option play? You remember when you first saw it and and you ever expected to His pitch from that far away to draw a guy that strong I figured the safety would go with me and the ryan giving the fake and getting the end zone and Happened just the way I thought it would ryan did a great job and you know, we Got points out of it. But you know, it was a cool play and something different How much do you enjoy going and playing at a place like believe in where the fans are rowdy And they've got a lot of energy and you know, when you're when it's kind of you against the world that type of thing Did we play there in 19 the injury that the energy was great? You know, I think they They look for football, uh 365 so um, you know, I think it's gonna be a great great crowd. They got a great team I remember back in 19 we played there the injury was great. So it should be a good atmosphere. That's what you want We playing football Somebody send you the clip of chubb just kind of what we're all watching about In the moment, I know everybody goes reaction. Just you know, it's Tough to see and um, you know, especially the type of player he is Never want things to happen. But I mean that's that comes with the game. So He just always gets a big smile on his face when he talks about that running backs room And just the respect that you guys have for one another What allowed him to come in and kind of have that respect for a veteran like you? Yeah, I think just the way he when he came in his approach Always looking to get better Very attentive and meetings Very detail and and everything and pays attention and let it transition to the practice field and it's playing off You know in the games as well. So, you know, just love his drive We kind of have similarities when we talk about no certain stuff. So, you know, glad that we have him was a great asset for us And um, he's been doing a great job For records or milestones, but you're on the verge of passing or Campbell for most rushing yards and franchise history Hard to believe a guy. Maybe you grew up watching Maybe you're on the doorstep of doing that and what about your respect for him? Yeah, man. I heard him was like one of those, you know, those running back Um, superheroes you hear about growing up as a kid and my name we mentioned with his this, uh, It's surreal. Um, very cool. Very blessed and thankful. Um, we know the impact he's had For this organization and you know, through the football world, everybody know who Earl Campbell is About his play style and the fact the fact he had on the game So for me to be mentioned with his name, it's like a dream come true You ever the clips of him where he'd be running over guys and they're pulling pieces of jersey off crazy You ever wish that maybe you'd get a jersey that you could wear and let let them try to pull it off of you I don't uh Those jerseys back then the materials probably a little bit a little bit different probably a little more advanced these days But you know, see still seeing those clips to this day is still crazy to see, you know How he was running through guys guys holding on for their life trying to get them down It still couldn't bring them down. So, you know, I got like I said, he's like a run-back superhero to me Miles and the athleticism when you see somebody like that, do you try and compare you against him? Do you try and think how athlete that guy is at something that doesn't ever cross your mind? No, I feel like Miles has been built that way since he came out the wound and in high school and playing against him in college Just a uh, uh a freak athlete, you know, you know, he's a great football player as well That's good. I think uh the guys did a good job of of You know doing Going out and executing one of our top team keys last week, which was being efficient on first and second down Uh, we didn't have it, you know, we had that Um, I think it was a second drive. We you know, we jump off sides You know, we have an me on on the second intent like it's just it it's hard to get into any type of rhythm I don't care how long how many how many games guys have played with one another If you're consistently putting yourself behind the sticks like that So I thought our guys did a great job of coming out and in maintaining their focus They're they're a high level of detail and we're able to go and sustain drives You got the big spark on trailing birds the 70 yarder What goes through your mind is as you see the charger score you guys are struggling on offense What goes through your mind as far as the timing to be able to dial something like that? Yeah, um You know felt like, uh Felt like like you said we needed a spark. Um And our guys, you know up until that point had been holding up pretty well in protection on first and second down Felt good about the matchup. We liked the play going into the game and Um, it's just one of those things when you're kind of good looking at the call sheet and and say, all right Well, let's give this one a shot and uh, he did a great job winning. They did a great job protecting You know, ryan delivered a great ball. Uh, it was just it was a well executed play I could have called anything at that point in time if they executed like that it was going to be a successful play The area where you feel ryan really itself on tannin hill that is just that play action Yeah, he's you know throughout his career. He's done a great job being able to You know use use a run game and use the the play action to his benefit. He's a great ball handler Um, our guys do a great job up front being able to go and sell the run And obviously when you have darik and taji back there, there's a lot of attention being Being, you know, uh spent on those guys So it's been something that that he's had a lot of efficiency with and then he's had a lot of success with I didn't like what you saw from ryan. I guess last week dealing with some of the bursary criticism for week one To kind of bounce back and play like you did on sunday. Yeah, I I I didn't really have any doubt that that was coming. Um He's he's such a pro. Um, and he's he's been successful You know for a long time, so Obviously gave him a couple weeks ago. Didn't go the way we wanted it to but um, you know, like we say Luckily for us we play again in six days or however many days it is until our next game And so he took advantage of that opportunity around and played played the way that that that we needed to play in the way That we expected to play Third downs and late in ball games. It seems like that Ryan seems to look sometimes for nick westbrook a quina, you know, it may be more so in those situations than at other times Is that just a product of their trust and their relationship over the years? Um Yeah, I think I think he's got a high level of trust of you know with a number of those guys Hop had that big third down conversion. I believe it was in the fourth quarter On the cross Had had a high level of trust in nick on the third and goal So, you know, you see those targets going to a couple of different guys But yeah, I think all of our wide outs and in tight ends and done a great job coming in and And really trying to establish that trust and make sure that ryan feels good That not only are they going to be able to go out there and execute, but they're going to be able to go out there and win No, you're always going to like a first read that that's successful. Are you maybe Is ryan maybe sticking with those a little longer as part of the past protection? um I'm not sure I understand the question If you're able to go to the first read, obviously the protection doesn't need to hold up as as long So is he maybe making more of an effort to make the first read work? Uh, I don't think like I think he's playing playing within his progression I don't think he's he's uh Locking into anybody. I don't think he's he's you know, hanging on to like I think he's he's playing what he sees And and he's doing a good job of finding the open guys Well, you get I guess I guess the jim schwarz defense and maybe what are you anticipating? Kind of seeing from them on sunday. They're fast. I mean they they're uh fast attacking Front um those guys up front Obviously, you know with with garret and zidarius those guys are are Big productive strong athletic players on the edge Um tomlinson's inside he's they're they're getting out the ball those backers are flying all over the place um Trying to take double teams off. So it's a it's a very much of uh an attacking front Probably different than what we've seen the first couple weeks with the saints and with the chargers Um, and then on the back end they've got good length. Um, obviously with nuesome, uh ward Guys that that that that can that can run that can play man coverage So, uh, yeah, that that's kind of what we're expecting to see Yeah, uh, you know, that's uh, it's a good challenge for our guys up front. Um, so uh Our our our focus has been on making sure that we're putting them in a position to be successful Um And and you know and everyone's going to have a piece of that like as we sit here and talk about it Making sure uh, the guys that are given the looks today when we're going out there in practice Are giving us the specific looks that we're anticipating seeing so The first time our our guys up front feel that it, you know, isn't on isn't on sunday because it is a different style From what we've seen so far. So, uh There's been a big focus in that and and it started with us with the game plan designed in such a way that We're able to to put them in a good position and then going to look to continue that today with how we're going to go out there in practice I guess the carries and play time for derrick and Tyjay and will that be kind of a week to week deal? He's still trying to find out the perfect the sweet spot there with those two Uh, yeah, I mean, uh, I don't know if we necessarily have a A pitch count. I don't know if we're necessarily like it's so much of it's going to be dictated on on how the game goes and and Whether you want to call that who's got the hot hand? Who's the better match up? However, however, we want to say that We've got two very talented backs with two unique skill sets Um, and it's a it's a good problem to have for us to be able to to make sure that we're getting both those guys enough touches Back as well as you know Deshaun. Do you spend any extra time with the defense in a week like this kind of given them? Yeah, I've got I've got my hands full with their defensive side of the ball. So Um, all my focus has been on making sure that that we're able to take care of those guys up front and able to get open versus man As long as we had one more point than the other guys that that was going to feel great At the end of the day the most important thing is that we're doing whatever it takes to win a football game It's been a long time since since we had done that um, so you know, it felt great that we were able to go out there and And uh, hold up our end of the bargain and go get a win Justin has a great job, um up top being able to kind of see what's going on With with the different, you know run schemes Um, Charles has done a great job on the field with with the different coverages and the different pass game Um ideas and concepts. So Well, when when we have a staff like ours, uh guys that that I have 100 trust in that are really talented at their jobs Um, you know, it's it's easy when when they when they're sitting there and and hey, you know Take a look at this or hey, you know, they're they're ready for this And and again, I think it's just a testament to the staff coaches put together in in those two in particular And I mean Tony and Rob do a great job and the the the whole staff But but with our relationship and the amount of trust that I have in those guys, it's it's it makes that part easy I was glad that we were able to call it so it was good it was good That's good. Yeah, I mean I was there with them is his rookie year and he got hurt Um in seattle early in the season. So not much to go off of I mean we we've obviously played against them a lot In the past. So I would say there's some things there more so than when I was in houston with them He had kind of weaving through traffic and kind of keeping plays alive and what's maybe the challenge for your defenders to deal with Yeah, like when you rush them, you got to be relentless. He uh, he's got a knack for finding the crease or working his way out of Of sacks. He's strong. Um, he's tough to bring down at times. So you got to be relentless when you're rushing this guy You got to stay at it. You never know the plays never really over with them Um, so we just got to continue to rush even when we think we might not have something Something could come late just from him trying to extend something In general with him out does anything change for you guys obviously signing for re-hunt there too? Yeah, I mean, they're they're really good up front, right? They're really good up front I think they're o-lines Probably one of the better teams in the league in terms of blocking in the run game. Um, I don't think things change too much They had 30 rushes last week against the Steelers and chub went out play 26, right? So I mean, I think that's who they are That's their identity. Um, I don't know if they're truly going to get away from that just because nick's not there Obviously, you lose a great player. It's tough to replace but bringing humpback for did a good job when he was in there last week Yeah, I mean the explosiveness of being able to circle up the defense come back and take it to the house nearly Um, he runs hard. He's he's got some good speed. So I think he's a good system fit for what they do running running the ball We're going against the guy like watch what stands plays or even works in that play action What do you tell them? Yeah plays never over right the plays never over whether it's the front or the back end we got to make sure we stay connected Uh, if we're in zone coverage, we got to find matches late in the down and we got to cover them That turns into man coverage backyard football at that point So, uh, we got to make sure we do a good job understanding what's going on if he's in the pocket If he's out of the park pocket what we're able to get away with when he's out of the pocket There's no ICT so some of that comes into play. Um, but we got to find bodies and we got to be on body Elijah I think went 68 to 68 on Sunday, how do you do and maybe how valuable is that have a guy like that can step in at different spots? Yeah, he was he was good, man. He uh, he's always been versatile for us. Um Just having him as a safety net for me. I mean he can play a lot of different spots for us So on us as a coaching staff not to overload them, you know, don't turn a blessing into a curse Just with what we're asking him to do But he's a valuable piece of our defense with all the all the versatility. So I'm excited He's he's performed the way he has up to this point Kim Byrd was talking about in joe cooby and a matchup problem And a guy who can make lots of yards after the catch what type of matchups problems does he present? Yeah, I mean, he's big he's strong. He can he can run the routes I think once he gets the ball in his hands, it's it's scary because he's a big strong Dude who can run right? So anytime you get those guys on the catch and runs It's those five yard gains that turn into 15 or turn into 20 That really scare you right? So we got to make sure we're we're tight on them If he does catch it, we got to be able to get them on the ground and not let them get going Learn I guess from Jim source. Maybe they're your time together here. Yeah a lot. Uh, he was a extremely valuable to me Just a great football mind, obviously one of the better defensive minds in the game And I think his his knowledge of offensive football from being a head coach and being around the league for so long He was always a great sounding board for me always coming to me with ideas Things we can do differently. And I mean, it's not just the stuff on the field It's the day-to-day aspect of running a meet in Um Things to kind of approach with the unit going into game week Like there was there was a bunch of different aspects that he helped me with. Um, I miss him I do I'm happy for him. Obviously he he deserves what he's doing right now and it's no by no surprise They're doing what they're doing defensively, but you can't say enough about Jim and what he was to me these past two years