 Great. So good evening, everybody. Welcome to the February 23rd meeting, the Cultural Council, Amherst Cultural Council. This is a pursuant to chapter 20 of the acts of 2021. This meeting is being conducted via remote means members of the public who wish to access the meeting may do so via zoom and then these recordings are posted on the town's YouTube channel. The open person attendance is permitted for members or for the public. But every effort is made to ensure the public can adequately access proceedings via technology. And yeah, so the meeting we posted on the town's YouTube channel shortly after the meeting's over. And, and that's it. So then we just have to go around and check that everybody's got good audio so I'll just kind of go off the screen. Cindy. Leah. Yes. Joy. Here. Julian. Yep. Arthur. Yep. And Cole. Yep. Great. We send out the minutes from Jenny, right after our last meeting. Does anybody want to have any discussion regarding the minutes or make a motion to approve? I can motion to approve. Thank you. I'll second that. I hate. I'm going to go ahead and take notes while we wait for Jenny just so that we don't lose those. I'm sorry, it was that joy that made the motion. And I heard Arthur second. I think Cole may have as well. Okay, so then we'll just. Yeah. Leah, do you support it? I support. Julie, do you support? Yes. And Cole. Yes. I'm a yes as well. So we are unanimous the minutes past. Thank goodness. We have a request from as well. Flora Nina Nina to turn his grant. Activities from last so last year he had a reimbursement grant. They have not been able to conduct. They were not able to conduct their. Activities and he had a request to. Turn it into working. I'm sorry. Operating costs. So I'm going to, I'm going to pull up that email. If you just give me a moment. And I did forward it out to folks. So he wrote this to us on February 9th. And I had told him that, you know, many people have been converting their reimbursement grants into. Operating costs as opposed to project based, you know, with the COVID exceptions. And so his, I guess, so his, his accounting is, I just said, you know, does your organization. So he runs Etta and the rainbow players. And I asked him if his organization incurred any costs. And he lists out the following. There's zoom account. You know, it was 14 bucks a month. Space rental. So they rent, they rent space at $650 a month. They gave their classes away for free during the pandemic, which I think is kind of classic. We provided arts materials. So. I mean, I think it's a pretty clear case where they incurred operating costs and didn't have their usual revenue. So I don't know, I would open for further discussion, but I think this is a good example of where. Yeah. So. Particularly in the, in the pandemic years, we can help, help folks out with, with the funds. I'd like to make a motion to. Go ahead and support the operating expenses. Okay. Anybody second. Yeah, I'll second that. Okay. So we'll go around and vote. Arthur. Yep. Joy. Yeah. Leah, do you support. I support. And I also support it. So it, it passes. So Cole, our squares cannot be next to each other on the screen right now because the amount of blue that is happening right there is just intense. That's really wild. I just saw Robin join and then she got bumped out. It looks like. So I'm actually going to hold on this next item because I know it's near and dear to her heart and. And we want to have some very preliminary conversation about it. So we'll wait until. She's online. There she is. Hey, Robin. Hey. Perfect timing. Actually, we just got to the preliminary accessibility round table discussion. And I would, I guess so, so very quick background for joy and anybody who, I guess it's just joy who didn't hear last year's. Discussion on this, but we had the accessibility subcommittee last year that did a lot of, you know, we literally case managed grantees who wanted to get sign language interpreting or, or other kind of closed captioning, other kinds of supports for accessibility of their projects. And one of the things that we asked them about last year was, would you be interested in having some kind of a convening where, where we come together and we talk about best practices. And then we're going to have a discussion about what we're going to do with accessibility. And then as the year went on, I think we all sort of. Started talking more about, you know, accessibility in terms of. Revenue. So that's a big part of the direct granting that we've done. And, you know, being very broad with that term accessibility and, you know, certainly. Starting with disability accessibility, but, but being more expansive than that. So I sent out that same survey to this year's grantees as well. So I do have a list of probably. I've stopped my head 30 or 40 people who have said that they're interested in some kind of an accessibility convening event. We left it very, very. Undefined at the time. And I did just touch base briefly with. Charles at the MCC. Who, who has been our guru when it comes to accessibility. And, you know, he, he said that. Depending on what we wind up wanting to do. He'd be willing to help, you know, come in as a consultant. He'd be willing to help us connect with other speakers. So I think once we start to narrow down like. What our vision is for this event. And, you know, certainly a date, I think it would be helpful, whether we want to do it. In person or hybrid or more mixed. Once we start to narrow down a little bit more of our vision. I think he'd be a really important partner to. Sort of bring into the conversation, but. So that's it right now. It's very, very loose. We do have about 15. We do have about 15. We do have about 15. Actually over the two years, about $3,000 that we could use up to 3000 roughly that we could use. On this. So, so, you know, it's not a ton of money, but certainly we can, you know, pay some, some honor area to folks who are going to participate if that's the direction we did. We wind up going with it. And that's, that's really kind of all it is right now. So I guess I would just sort of start out by saying, you know, I don't think there's any broad thoughts or reactions that folks have had about this, about this idea. And then go from there as well. Robin. I mean, I, I like it. I think it's great. And we should do it by the specifics. I haven't yet really thought about it. Probably not until next month. We'll work through this, but I mean, I think it's pretty open. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm going to step in for you, Robin, Robin. It's been incredibly busy. So one of the, the ships that we have, you know, in the past, we've always kind of had the grant cycle. And there's the push to do the deliberations and then the push to get to the final point where we can vote and have a final amount. And then there's the push to get the rejection letters out so we can process those so that we can get. The approvals out. So we've had a lot of discussions. We've had a lot of discussions, which is maybe not really a efficient. Robin's been incredibly busy because we've been prompting people to get the contracts back to us within a two week window. And there have been stragglers. So. Just to give everybody a little bit of context, Robin's really been, races. Thank you. So, you know, come to an end, hopefully. But I mean, I think we can do any number of things. So I'm not quite sure how we're going to figure that out what we want to do. But overall, I think it's a great idea. But no idea. This isn't a super specific, but I know in the past, we've had conversations about like accessibility with the website and with the rest of the town. So if we could really like, get the word out to like, other councils and like town employees, that could also be like a way to spread. Like if we're hosting this, but we kind of like, we could write to like, like, I don't know who the person would be, but like, maybe like Paul Backelman and be like, Hey, like, spread the word about this. And then like, that could kind of start, like if we do more general accessibility, as well as like, in the arts, it might have a greater impact than if it was like specifically focused on like, our accessibility, but also like, I don't know. Robin, I had been sort of taking notice things like at the Super Bowl, which I don't watch. But there were deaf performers with the music. And there's this whole organization for deaf performers. And I've also seen there's a bunch of people that you mess Amherst, who are producing TikToks on trying to get into buildings in a wheelchair or whatever other accessibility issues they might have. And it's really bad, actually. One woman is in the dorm that she needs to be and she can't get across and into the building where she would eat for many reasons. And I've seen like, I think three people doing this. And it seems to be this whole project that they're doing. And it might or might not be coordinated between them, I'm not sure. But, you know, that might be an interesting way to go, or at least to contact them or look at what they're doing. Or I mean, just one idea. Is someone like that have kind of a number of followers or something? Yes, yes. Because if they that's kind of the conjunction is if they're doing that, which is great, you know, and they have followers and we can reach out to them and say, Hey, I'm sure they they're already trying to spread the word. So if they have people that are listening. Yeah, just because I think so, where I saved it, but it sort of just comes up, but I did save the website somewhere. So, you know, and I'm sure there's a lot of things like that. But also the the Death Performance Association, which I think is another Detroit affiliate, you know, is this national organization. And, you know, intersects directly with us, because it's for performing in the arts. And I'm sure there's a lot of things like that. So you might want to do that, we might want to just do an educational we might want hook in with other cultural councils and do I'm not quite sure what I mean, there's all sorts of things that I think working with Charles Baldwin would be, you know, really productive. But the specifics I have no idea. But that's what you do. You talk about it and figure it out. So I do think I do think the first step for us is, you know, if we assume we have people who want to come engage, well, we don't have to assume we know we have people who want to come engage. But I think it would be smart for us to start thinking about, you know, date ranges and types of formats that we want to have. And then, you know, because then you can start the conversation with potential speakers, people potential activity, you know, we can sort of start to hone in that way. But I would I would say if we, if we want to start thinking about about when, when and sort of how that may be a good place to start. Maybe it would be better, like, I feel like the summer is sometimes hard to like coordinate, because people will be gone. Do we want to do like late spring or fall? And also if we're thinking of doing like a Pecha Kucha, we should like do like maybe one in the spring and one in the fall, because it might just be like a lot if we're trying to organize both at once. I think it's a good point about Pecha Kucha. It's already the end of February. So I feel like I feel like fall is probably a safer bet for us. Although the downside to that, of course, is that our current grantees, you know, if we do it in the fall, this year's grantees really, really won't be able to engage before they're like their projects will be over by the time they engage. So that's the that's the downside, I think. But I think realistically, it's probably more realistic to look at late summer early fall than it is the spring. I don't know. I mean, if other folks wanted to move towards the spring, I would be willing to help make that happen. I think it's too early. Given we don't really know what we want to do. And we're still in COVID stuff. I guess I'm still a little bit unclear as to what we're actually trying to do. Yeah, so we put aside funds out of our local grant fund to support accessibility projects. So last year, we literally used a chunk of money to pay for interpreting and, you know, various accessibility things. We also asked all of our grantees, the question is, would you be interested in participating in an accessibility forum? And that's that's as specific as we got it was just to have some roundtable conversations. We've put some money aside this year, so we could potentially bring in speakers or facilitators to sort of help. I mean, I think the idea is, you know, to take an artist or, or, you know, a grantee and help them look at their own project and just sort of see as possible in terms of making it more accessible to a broader audience. Seems like we'd want to tee that up so that that content is out there before the next round of grants to refer people to it is the kind of logistical thing, right? I mean, if it's just always just like a roundtable discussion, would it be possible to just pick a date and have our grantees on zoom, whoever can make it and then us and then we can try to figure out maybe some kind of expert just to have a zoom meeting sometime, maybe end of April, something like that. Because doing a giant zoom, first of all, you know, takes the COVID piece a little bit away. And we could get a sign language interpreter, we could get captions. And it's not like we don't have to find a venue and, you know, arrange some grand thing. It's just here's a link and as many people as we can get onto it to have some kind of field of discussion. I mean, since this is such a new thing, and you know, this is the first time we're ever doing it. We could even just leave the discussion to generate ideas on, hey, let's look at your project. What are we doing? You know what I mean? It could just be a roundtable between even just the grantees and us sitting in there, just promoting the discussion. And then from there, what we might be able to get ideas for what would make it more formal or, you know, for the next grantee period. Or which experts to bring in, as opposed to, you know, it'd be nice if we could secure an expert. And I agree. I don't think it has to be super complicated to have a conversation, but that conversation might say, well, what people really need help with is this kind of expert. So I don't know, Cole or Arthur, if you have thoughts, but I personally like the idea of putting something on the map, you know, putting a date on the map and seeing who comes. And then it's a chance to gather ideas for content, format, a lot of those pieces. I think Charles Baldwin would also be very comfortable in a kind of a free flowing type thing like that. He's, you know, he's sort of our accessibility liaison. So I'm sure we could run it, but I think, you know, he would also enjoy participating in something like that too. I agree that that'd be enough of an expert just to get the ball rolling. Right. Informal enough. Especially because I feel like we do need like some kind of a person to like, because there's like a lot of questions where like, if someone was asking things like, I definitely like don't know enough about accessibility. And I feel like there's a really big benefit to having people who are affected by this kind of be like the leaders and be like, okay, like, here's what we want. Here's what we need. And then kind of to like have us kind of like backing them up. I feel like that makes more sense to me than like me kind of like not really knowing what's the most needed or like leading that discussion. Yeah. And the other thing is he's very much a facilitator. You know, he's not going to just take up all the oxygen in the room. I think he would be a good partner in sort of helping us prompt dialogue with our grantees. Definitely have been him here and then also like, I liked the idea of kind of gauging with public, like what aspects might be the most wanted to talk about and then kind of like outsourcing people from there. And I also liked Robin's idea of like the local like UMass TikTokers, because I feel like TikTok can actually be like this cool platform to like raise awareness. And I think reaching out to those people might be interesting. So can we start talking about, you know, potentially setting like, I could reach back out to Charles and say, you know, these are the two April dates we thought and times that we thought might work. I don't have a calendar right in front of me, but I will in a second. Well, tax day is the 18th, so we should probably avoid that. Is the 18th this year? Yeah, yeah, because it's Passover and Good Friday on the 15th. Oh, yeah. Yeah, same weekend. So. Also, you can definitely go after the 18th. Yeah. And the Drake is going to have its opening and hasn't figured out when yet. And originally we had talked in April. I'm actually meeting with Gabriel. They were moved next week to talk about the opening and what they'll need, because they are going to want some volunteer help, but they haven't figured out that date. And I hopefully won't overlap that date. It may be in May, though. But I mean, the sign is going off and. Well, the Drake has this. Are you saying the celebration of the arts has moved? Yeah. Okay, it didn't have a specific date. I thought it didn't are. It's not a big deal, but I thought it did when we approved it. No, it was hopefully April and we also were trying to have it when the students were still here, but avoid Passover and Easter, which is what reminded me of it. So and the latest thing I saw may have been on Facebook or may have just been online that they're working on figuring out the date. So just. Although I'm sure it won't be like my guess is it's Tuesday, it's Thursday, Friday, Saturday or Sunday. So if we did this like on a Tuesday, I don't think we'd overlap. Okay, I am looking. They did have a date of April 23rd, whether they have it or not now in our nothing. Okay. And the actual application, it was dated April 23rd. That makes sense. So we could just skip the 23rd as a possible date right now. Even if they're not using it, we could just not do that just in case they are. That is a Saturday. I mean, I think we're more likely to do something mid-week anyway. What about the week of the 25th, Monday the 25th? And it's basically the end of April. Why not? Yeah, when we imagine something like this happening, do we imagine it at 6 p.m. sort of dinner-ish time or... Julie says yes. Julie says yes. I mean, we could also offer, I guess it's either that or a weekend, pretty much. I think we do it at 6 p.m. on a weeknight. I think that sounds good. It might be more accessible in a different way of accessibility to do it midway through a day on a weekend, thinking about families with young children or people who work at that time at night. Yeah, it's easier to say I'm going to do something at 6 p.m. then, yeah, weekends are pretty unpredictable for everybody. Well, wait, Cole, can you clarify? Yeah, no, I was saying a weekend would probably be better for a bunch of people. I mean, I'm thinking about students or families with young children or even older children, for that matter. And people who have to work multiple jobs, they might be working night on a Tuesday. On a Tuesday. Yeah, but there's, on weekends, maybe they are driving their kids everywhere and getting the chores done and fixing whatever needs to be fixed at the house. I'd say from a family point of view, probably on weekends are the hardest, at least, that's been my experience. It's just hard to find a time that works for people. Well, I'll say this, if we are going to have a quorum there, it'll be a public meeting, which is fine. But I would say, you know, six o'clock works for most of us on weeknights. So I think we've kind of just planted for when we can have the most of our members and, you know, and then if we get a lot of feedback from folks that say I would have liked to have come, but that was a bad time for us, for me, then we can talk about doing it, you know, doing a second session or something like that. So without, let me see, I'm going to pull my, but... So I just... Yeah, go ahead. Just a clarification. This is sort of a meeting to start brainstorming and seeing what people need and want and are interested in in terms of our grantees, not in terms of how we try to bring in other grantees who might need different, might have different accessibility issues and in terms of either applying or in producing. It can just be really general and just that it could be whatever the community brings. We're here to serve the community. We're holding this, whether it's specific to grants or whether it's specific to the events or the actual application process, like anything could come up. We don't know, but at least we're starting a dialogue. To explore. Yeah, it's all good. The last thing I wanted to do, I didn't mean it that way. I just didn't want to keep putting it, like kicking it can down the road because accessibility needs are now. And frankly, with Zoom, we have the capability of trying to get as many people in the room as possible without having to necessarily worry about transportation and trying to get a new building and things like that. I think the sooner we can start having conversations with the community, with the grantees, with whoever is who wants to show up because those are going to be the people affected, I think it would be best. That might be more productive than us, like trying to find the perfect event and try to do something like in fall. But that said, I do have to go. I'm glad we were here to say that. I think it really helped, Joy. Okay, can you hold on for one sec? So there's one, two, three, four. So when Joy leaves, we will no longer have a quorum. So Julie, if you can hold on for one second. I'm sorry. So if we can tentatively say that week of April 26, I just want to make sure we don't have any other business because when Joy leaves, we have to... Can I make a motion that we vote to tentatively schedule for the week of April the 25th at 6 p.m. one of the days? Yeah, I think that's great. And we can find Charles, which works for him. Okay. Yeah. Does anyone second? Second. All right, Joy, you're out. Are there? Yes. Okay, ZS. Okay, so now we can no longer talk. It's been nice knowing you, folks. Well, we can talk. The meeting is we're no longer having a meeting. Man, you have been to contact Charles though, right? Can you say that? Or you want me to? No, I will. Okay, so can I... Wait, are we... I forget the rules, I'm not having a quorum, but I was going to quickly say we definitely need to focus on advertising and getting it out there, because when we had our last open meeting, not a lot of people showed up, which is... I feel like that's kind of expected for an arts council, but definitely kicking that up a notch for this and reaching out to... I don't know, I think if we all work together, like reaching out to different circles. So I'm going to... I'll look to Cindy to kind of guide me on this, but I'm going to officially adjourn the meeting of the cultural council. I think we can continue to have an inform... I don't know if we can continue an informal conversation. I think we can't vote. We can't vote on anything or can we not talk, Cindy? I am not 100% sure. I think there's not supposed to be any more discussions when there's no quorum, but I don't know for sure. I'm sorry. I do think it might be... I'm going to propose that we adjourn the meeting and kind of end the recording, and then the public meeting will be over, and we won't have any more substantive discussion at that point. Can we get the grant update as well as what was the other piece on here? Whatever was going to be presented on the AR... agenda ARPA update or no? Well, I don't want to... With the recording running, I want to adjourn the public meeting just because... I think we just plain can't meet. Like we can't all, you know, five of us, Leah and Cindy aside, go get together for a beer and talk council politics. So if we can't do that, then we can't stay on the call and do it without the recording either. Am I wrong? And there'd be more on the up and up to have the update and have the recording going that something was said and there's a record of it. Okay, well, why don't we do this then? Why don't we just... I'll put this in the minutes too, that, you know, Joy left at 6.35, the official meeting adjourned, and then, you know, so we no longer had a quorum, and then I can just speak to those two things really quick. Yeah. But we'll just make sure the record reflects, you know, that ending a quorum. So grants update, I think the grants update is, as Julie said earlier, Robin is processing everything as quickly as she can as they come in. Paper, you know, we're making sure asking people to submit paper versions. So as these come in, we're tracking them. And the goal, of course, is to have all 64 in hand for when the town has their funds so that we can give the town a very straightforward list of 64 grantees and their amounts, and those checks get cut. We're pretty close, based on the signatures that we're done today. We're, there's, there's some stragglers, but the bulk of them literally majority are in. Are you signing, you're signing 22 grant agreements? 2022 grant agreements? Yeah. Yeah. Just like I've done the reimbursement forms with Robin in the past, it just has to have my signature or your signature. So. Well, not actually any member's signature. Well, there you go. So, and we're, they're all getting reconciled back against the amount that was afforded and double checked and everything else. So, but largely the hard copies are in and largely they have signatures on them from us, largely. There are a few stragglers and they're all on the shared Excel sheet that Robin. Yes. I updated. Great. Oh yeah. It's all updated. Yeah. And as more come in, I will update it. So we're in good shape there is the good news. Right. That is good. And we have to be using, using Google docs for, for this work. I mean, I don't. And so. I want to tie both of Robin's hands and her feet behind her back. So we've just, just trying to keep track of what's, what's signed off on that's all and who we still need to correspond with. But you're copied on all that, Matt. So you're good. Well, I know I, and I'm not trying to be a stickler. It's just, and I did create that Google doc and set it all up for tracking, but the official, the official position is that we can't be doing. Right. Cindy, we had an attorney general thing come out to us on open meeting law. So we definitely don't want to be using Google docs outside of open meetings. To do official business. So, you know, if it's, if it's one individual's record keeping, you know, and it happens to be shared, but, but we just want to be cautious about that. Okay. It could do, I'm not sure what I was giving track of them. You set up Google docs so that, you know, you and I thought all of us could keep track of it in, you know, that way. So I've updated this when it comes in, because all the time when, you know, we went over it and you updated it, but I don't actually need that. I have, you know, frankly, a much easier system, but that's not a difficult system either. So I'm not sure if you're saying I should be updating it or I shouldn't be updating it. It started with just making sure that all the letters went out. So listen, I don't think we need to devote a whole bunch of the meeting time. If this is something that the three of us need to clean up, then we'll clean it up. Because the simple report is that most of the grants, the hard copies are in, and we're in good shape with the grantees doing their due diligence. Cindy, if you have any thoughts or want to follow up with us and keep us in line as well, that'd be great. But I think we've covered the sentiment of it for this evening, that most of the paperwork is in and done. Everybody's doing a good job. Being in a modern world with all of this stuff, everybody's going to lose their minds. Anything more on that? Well, the challenge for us is to try to get to 100% of people filling out their thing. And that's why I've been asking you, Robyn, is because, really, I keep on reaching back out to these people and they're ignoring the emails or not answering them. But we're getting very close and it's definitely something to look at for next year. This upfront work for us is, it's a lot to try to get them to fill out their paperwork. And what we don't want to do is stragglers to create an inconvenience on the town. On the other hand, if they're not doing the due diligence to get their paperwork filed out, it kind of indicates that maybe they're not going to follow through on the project. So I don't want to push in prod people to do that. I don't want to push in prod people too much. If we've sent them one, two, God forbid, three messages and they're still not doing it, then I don't really have much confidence that they're going to do it anyway. So let it fall through the cracks. God forbid, it could always come back to us having to address it and vote it. But again, the bulk of these are done. We don't really have a whole lot to worry about. I mean, if you want to name names, Amherst Cinemas wasn't in. Sure, they mean to get theirs in, you know. So we'll get through it. It's a new process. So sometimes some of the people who did it before aren't in sync with it, but we're in good shape. Okay. So I think the only other thing that I had put on the agenda, unless folks have other comments, was just to give an update on the town ARPA money that had come out. And this was all part of the recovery platform. I'm not sure if anybody went in and submitted public comment for that. I shared the links at the time. Essentially, in terms of funding that they put aside in ARPA for cultural activities, they have put in $100,000 for a small business grant program, a lot of which will be sort of culturally oriented. I think the town is going to directly manage the distribution of those funds. There is still a chance that they have a second round of funding coming to them from the state. So there may be a chance that they ask us to help in our next grant cycle to distribute some of these funds. So that's something that, you know, we'll just stay in touch with them about. They put in $300,000 for downtown business development, which is largely going to the Drake, going pretty much directly to the Drake, I think. And then over, and these funds are over two to three years, depending I think on the activity. And then finally, they put aside $250,000 for an economic empowerment position that has a role trying to help coordinate arts and culture, BIPOC equity efforts, and relationships with the colleges. And it's kind of a, it's kind of a amalgam of a bunch of different duties and responsibilities. That was initially slotted out to be a position where they would hire somebody for it. But the last that I heard, they were going to bid it out, and it'll be more of a, I guess, fee for service for lack of a better word. And we'll see. What's that? Consulting. The consultant. Hopefully more than consulting. Hopefully somebody who's actually, you know, doing some hoots on the ground, or hopefully somebody local who's doing some direct work. But I'm not entirely sure. When that's going to go up or, you know, who they have in mind necessarily. But, you know, I think there are some players in town who would be natural fits for it, you know. So that'll be just, that'll be interesting. We'll track it. I did, I did share with them, you know, based on our roundtables, you know, I wrote up all the comments from those roundtables that we convened and, you know, and shared that there was a lot of interest in having somebody who was a, you know, cultural director all Northampton. They kind of decided to fold that into this, along with other economic empowerment projects. And so, you know, it'll be interesting. I mean, we have, you know, we have multiple cultural institutions in town. So it'll be interesting to see, you know, what comes of this role. And if it is actually sort of a role to unify those, those institutions or kind of how it plays out. So I'm definitely hopeful that it's going to be somebody local who winds up getting it, who already has those connections and it's not sort of reinventing the wheel. And that's it, that's it for now. Yeah, Julie. It sounds like kind of looking at your recap that there's a two to three year timeline on this. There's $100,000 allocated to various small businesses. Maybe the state has a second round of funding. The downtown development seems like that's all kind of figured out. They're going to figure out this $250,000 position or just energy labor or somebody at that. So as far as what would be meaningful to our grantees, that probably comes back to the first two. So a possible round of, second round of state funding doesn't exist yet. So it's not particularly actionable until it exists, right? So did the town release anything about the small business grant stuff or are they still processing through the point where they'll be making announcements as to who can apply for that and how that'll get distributed or do we not know? It's, they have posted a lot of this stuff online. I'm not sure. I don't, I mean, I don't have anything actionable for you right now, if that's what you're asking, but they do have a recovery, Amherst Recovery Plan website creating a resilient Amherst. It's great. If we've got something on social media, and we're asking just to get the word out. So at the point there's a word to get out, we should be getting it out. I just don't know if there's anything to communicate to our community about that. No, no, I was just giving you- I'm sure there are groups that need to access it, but we wouldn't know what to tell them, where to start, what to do, right? Sorry, one sec. So anyway, I'm not, yeah, I don't have anything for you to, for social media right now. I was just giving you the update on the ARPA funds. Sorry, go ahead. I just said, yep, thanks, just. Okay. So, all right, well, that's it for me on that. Let's see. Looking at our, does anybody have any? Well, we're kind of past our adjournment point already. So, so I will, I think we'll move forward with, with, you know, the decisions we've made now, and I'll get these notes over to Jenny to put into her template and we'll circulate it. Thanks for the updates. Sure. All right. Good night, everybody. Good night. Bye, everyone. Bye. Bye. Night. Good night, everybody. Take care.