 Good afternoon. Welcome to the September 4th City Council meeting. Ms. Comance, do you want to call the roll? Please let the record show that all council members are present with the exception of Mayor Corsi. Excellent. Madam City Attorney, do you want to do a report out on closed session? Yes, the council held a closed session discussion on item 3.1 and gave direction to staff. Excellent. There are no study sessions today. We'll make our way on down to proclamations. We'll start with the Sesquicentennial Celebration Day. Council Member Sawyer. Thank you, Mr. Vice Mayor. And I'd like to have the recipients come down to the podium. Pat Fruitt and Janet Rogers and Judy Grover Walker. Karen Weeks and Stacey Pastis, five very hard-working committee members. And I'd also like to recognize Council Member Schwedhelm as well. And Mayor Corsi is also involved in this long process of celebrating our 150th birthday, if you will, for Santa Rosa. So we present the proclamation and then we will have an opportunity for someone to say a couple of words. Whereas in 1868, the State of California recognized Santa Rosa as a city. And the city is celebrating its Sesquicentennial this year, 2018. And whereas the City Council subcommittee has been working on the celebration for more than three years. And whereas the subcommittee has unearthed and documented the contents of the time capsule, buried in 1968, which will be opened in 2018. And whereas the contents of the time capsule, as well as opportunities to share what Santa Rosa residents wanted included in the time capsule, were unveiled at the public ceremony and more than 70 suggestions were received from the public. And whereas the city is hosting a community birthday party on September 8th, 2018 in Courthouse Square from 3 p.m. to 10 p.m., where residents can come together for free entertainment, music, birthday cake, historical information, the ceremonial reburying of the time capsule, the new time capsule, and more. And whereas the City Council welcomes its residents to attend the celebration, honoring our community, and looking to the future as we honor the past. Now, therefore, there will be a resolve that Chris Corsi, Mayor of the City of Santa Rosa, on behalf of the entire City Council, and pleased to proclaim that September 8th, 2018, is designated as Santa Rosa sesquicentennial celebration day signed by the Mayor on this date. Karen, do you want to say a few words? Please do. Well, I guess since I have the microphone, I will. As Patrick said, I think we've had 150 meetings planned for the 150th. I think you're right. I'd like to thank the Council for your support over the last three years and the community for their support and invite 150 of your friends to come on down. We're going to have a lot of fun things. We're going to have food, beer, wine, children's activities, a fashion show of historic fashions, car show, movie, a historic movie at Third Street Cinema, and then the culmination is going to be the showing of Shadow of a Doubt, which was filmed in the 40s here in downtown Santa Rosa. Please come on down and celebrate who we are. I want to recognize the large number of volunteers, three of which are standing in the Council chamber this afternoon. It has been a lot of meetings and very dedicated. Lots of highly dedicated work. We are not professional, well, Judy is, and actually Jan it is, professional event putter honors, but you wouldn't know it by the result. It's really so much effort and really, really good work was done by our volunteers and the paid professionals as well. I just want to honor that work and look forward to the community coming on Saturday. It's come and go as you please. It's open, you know, we're going to be there all day long from three to ten, and so we want everyone within the sound of my voice and beyond to come to downtown Santa Rosa and enjoy. Since I still have the microphone, I do want to thank you Councilmember Sawyer for your dedication to Santa Rosa and being a real driving force behind this, and thank you. And since you still have the microphone this week, if one wanted to volunteer to assist at the event, where would one go to try to do that? Thank you, Member Schwedhelm. Go to SantaRosaCity150.com and there's a form you can fill out and it will be forwarded to Judy and then to our INVET coordinator, and we need lots of volunteers still a lot. Same thing, John. Call 150 of your friends to volunteer. Yes. Thank you for all your work, you guys, your rock stars putting this thing together. Looking forward to Saturday. Thank you. Thank you, and we'll go on to our second proclamation for Creek Pollution Prevention Week. Councilmember Tibbets. Thank you, Mr. Vice Mayor. So I have, could I call the folks down today? Whereas throughout the United States, the week starting on the third Monday of September is recognized as National Pollution Prevention Week, and whereas throughout much of California, including the Russian River Watershed, the fourth week of September is recognized as Creek Week, and whereas our pollution prevention practices are intrinsically linked to the health of our watershed lands and waterways, and whereas the City of Santa Rosa supports programs to reduce pollution, increase the environmental quality of our watershed, and provide our communities with the knowledge to be effective stewards of the Russian River Watershed lands and waterways, and whereas nearly the 1500 square miles of lands, 238 creeks and approximately 350,000 residents of the Russian River Watershed are connected and mutually support each other, making the Russian River and its tributaries and associated features important resources to the people of Sonoma and Mendocino counties, and whereas pollution in the form of trash and debris, chemicals and sediment all have the potential to degrade the quality of life and the quality of resources within the Russian River Watershed, and whereas the City of Santa Rosa through our stormwater management program strives to protect our lands and waterways through ongoing pollution prevention outreach, which aims to raise awareness of the harmful effects of pollutants to our natural systems, and now therefore be resolved the Mayor Chris Corsi of the City of Santa Rosa on behalf of the entire City Council do hereby proclaim that September 17th through 23rd 2018 is Pollution Prevention Week and September 15th through 23rd 2018 is Creek Week in the City of Santa Rosa and ask that all members in our community to support efforts to protect and enrich our watershed health by participating in the many Pollution Prevention Week Creek Week activities and to take active steps to reduce pollution and care for our environment throughout the year. Would you both like to say anything? Thank you. Good afternoon. In conjunction with Creek Week staff has planned two events we'd like to invite you all to. The first is a creek cleanup on Prince Memorial Greenway on Saturday September 15th from 9 30 to noon and we'd also like to recognize that there are a lot of residents who volunteer to take care of the waterways and we very much appreciate everyone's help. And this is Heaven Moore from Supervising Engineer with stormwater and creeks. I also wanted to invite you Laguna Waste Bar Treatment Plant is celebrating its 50-year anniversary. So we're going to have hayride tours at the treatment plant as well as activities there for kids and adults alike. So that is going to be Saturday September 22nd from 10 to 2 p.m. and we hope that you all will join us there for that as well. Thank you. I just want to offer a little recommendation. This celebration this 50th anniversary I know it sounds like it might not be all that interesting to visit to visit a wastewater treatment plant but I got to tell you of all of the tours that I received when I was first elected to the City Council that particular tour was by far the most entertaining it was fascinating to find out you know most people you flush your toilet I know it's not very sexy you flush your toilet and where does that go you know what when you find out where it goes and how it gets there miles and miles away it's a fascinating experience I recommend anyone to go out and check out this this treatment plant and I know they'll put on a with this anniversary they'll put on a good show for you so I recommend it to everyone thank you and I do have one card on this one Dwayne DeWitt and I'm from Roseland I actually turned in a card for the item just before this also so I'm going to combine them and let you know that Roseland was around just as long as Santa Rosa and over there to the west there were folks along Dutton Avenue these places we have those names now but they were folks who were supportive of Santa Rosa they just lived outside of the city limits back then so remember you got Roseland in the city limits now and celebrate with us with that in mind regarding the creeks Roseland Creek is such a wonderful riparian corridor still out there in that area and we've been trying to save it from getting polluted and ruined and I'm hoping that you at the city will begin to look at how you could actually get more funding from both the state department of natural resources the state department of water and the federal government departments that are involved and be helping that Roseland Creek and we help you get extra funding so let's all work together and kumbaya for Roseland thank you so much for Creek Pollution Week 2 by now thank you so much Mr. DeWitt we will go on to fire recovery and rebuild update thank you vice mayor we do have two reports today the first one is assistant fire marshal Paul Lowenthal which will be followed by assistant city manager David Gouin thank you good evening vice mayor members of the council it's been about three weeks since the last update now two things we wanted to bring to your attention quickly is one is the status of over excavation and the second one is issue resolution as you may be aware two weeks ago attended a meeting in Sacramento with senator McGuire's office director Caloas Fema several other state agencies as well as elected officials at a state level county representatives as well as mayor Corsi and city manager McGlynn joined by phone to address the damage properties and issue resolutions that are still unresolved we did have a lot of some good discussions there was no commitments from the director of Caloas to re-engage with our debris task force at a local level to bring our federal and federal and state partners back to the table we also had some commitments from Caloas to figure out what can be done at a state level to continue to resolve damaged properties and claims that the federal government has not been able to resolve due to legal or contractual obligations so that was good news we also understand that the army corps of engineers will be turning over documents to us to review that involve field notes as well as photographs from a lot of the the damages that were reported to us locally that a lot of you have seen and dealt with at your own levels that will help us in continuing to bring those hopefully to a close sooner than later regarding over excavation as we'd mentioned previously Santa Rosa was the first of the properties to be assessed of the 610 288 were brought into the program a majority of Santa Rosa with the exception of some stragglers or for all intents and purposes done and they're waiting on geotechnical reports that will allow them to move forward with their rebuilding and they're slowly moving through the remainder of the county and that contract that's being handled by suga construction through Caloas is able to actually start doing some of the damages that reported but that primarily right now as well as in sceptics there have been some Santa Rosa residents that have requested their driveways to be removed although the state or federal government couldn't repair them it was financially beneficial for the survivor to have the driveway removed and the state has facilitated a lot of those requests so so far we are continuing to resolve them moving in the right direction are there any questions council so i have just one quick request i know you're working your way through the data as you get it i understand that the director of caloas sent a pretty strongly worded letter to fema regarding the over excavation as you and your team look at the data that comes in the field notes and things can you try to quantify for us or at least give us an indication if most of the over excavation that we're seeing came from the first wave of contracts where the contractors were paid by the ton as opposed to as we got further into the debris removal process so that we can make a credible case to fema and to caloas on how that could have occurred understood and just to clarify the letter from director gear dude she actually went to one of the kernels from the army corps of engineers but cc bought venting from fema and i did actually ask caloas this morning if they had had any response to that letter and to their knowledge they had not yet okay great thank you so much all right good afternoon and with me is gay was born deputy director of development services we'll give you two updates one first quick update Steve Jensen who was our permit manager center that started the day after Thanksgiving showed up with his team and basically turned that thing into what it is today he is retiring for the second time so he actually came out of retirement to do this job and i think it's um he's done his time to try to help get this up and running so we are working with a bureau veritas right now on a transition plan we'll have that in place by next week and Steve's last day will be next Wednesday so just want to make sure you're aware of that we'll get the new contact information out for everybody but the rest of the team is there and gave and Jesse are also heavily involved in the day today also as i mentioned the newspaper today the first house in thumb grove is complete and we do have a couple more on the heels of that very close to completion as well so i mean we'll start to see more final completed homes up in the thumb grove area in addition to the coffee park area so with that i'm going to turn it over to Gabe and we're going to go through a couple of the updates on the new tool that we we've launched but also some of the time turnaround times that have been a question from to you and to us over the past couple weeks good afternoon vice mayor rogers and members of the council as mr guin mentioned there are really two components we'd like to discuss today one is an update on the turnaround times and another is an update on the tools that we have modified to assist people with the rebuild effort so the tool we're focusing on today is actually the resilient city parcel report search tool so we did a brief update in august in our rebuild on some of the pending updates on this piece so really the focus is to centralize as much information as possible through that portal and that's really what we've been working on for the last three or four weeks so what we found is that it's become fairly popular and we're trying to get as much information as possible which means we have to compartmentalize that information and make it clear and concise and have navigation features that are just as clear and concise so we're actually going with a tab format that you can see at the top that are the different categories so the general tab is is pretty consistent to what we had from the start one of the pieces we did add is additional addresses so that's associated addresses that is at the top so what we found is that if there was an existing single family in an adu or an apartment complex people were not always searching by the main address we had on file so this gives a little more flexibility the second tab is the planning tab a lot of the information on setbacks we've been compiling that since the get go and that is now complete so everything is up to date what we've also added is hoa information so if we know what that is we can import it in here as well the permit tab went through the most substantial update it is actually new and it probably is the most beneficial so what we can see now is we are showing any relevant building permits on the parcel what we're also showing is engineering permits and fire permits so we have other tools in place that do allow property owners to get to the building permit information but not to the engineering fire tool so this is fairly new we're going to start with the rebuild and very shortly we are going to roll that out to the rest of the city so in the building front we're giving a lot of detail regarding the building permit so we give a description we give a timeline on the overall process and we also give an expanded view of the timeline so this is the transparency effort that we wanted to go through based on our last discussion so this really shows who has seen the building permit how long it's taken in each category so it will chart first review second review and third if applicable it will also chart the time in between so it lists the number of working or calendar days that are in each bucket so it's the amount of time the applicant has in between the reviews so the other tab and this will grow over time is the utility tab so as it stands right now for the rebuild in the water advisory area some of the water services are being replaced we have that information and we are porting that in so the property owner can see the status of their replacement they can also get the service type that the replacement is commencing with this is helpful from a fire sprinkler standpoint so that really sums up the changes to the parcel tool I do want to point out internal staff on this one Debbie bird in particular has created this from the ground up and it's been fairly amazing the response time half the time we don't even have to come up with the idea and it's already being worked on so we've been able to produce these really quick based on feedback from the outside and ultimately what we'll be able to do with this is probably leverage the foundation that was created here to replace a lot of the tools that we have that have a cost associated with them so it will likely bring forward cost savings because of the work that she's done so we are also rolling this out it's it went live on a soft launch over the last few weeks so we are doing our full launch now so we will be broadcasting out on social media we will also be linking out to many of the affiliated groups coffee strong the block captain group in the fountain grove in hidden valley area and we also produced a video that is a bit of a promotional video it highlights some of the technology that we've utilized in the rebuild effort and it has a tutorial function to it so it's a four minute video so I'd like to take a break and show that video and then we'll step into the turnaround times we're supporting the rebuilding effort by getting people back home that was what we talked about doing early on is getting them there and that's what we're doing now and how we facilitated that process is to change all the policies we have our power to change to streamline efforts to give them tools to make decisions to know when we need to encourage them to move forward and know when we need to get out of the way and let them move forward we're we're there we're part of this community and we're going to help you and others get back into their homes the city is taking a very progressive stance when it comes to delivering new technologies to assist people with the rebuild what we found early on in the process is the audiences are very diverse input from residents developers and contractors involved in the rebuilding of our community has helped to guide in much of its content srcity.org slash rebuild it is where you can find all tools data and resources created to guide and track rebuilding efforts in the city of Santa Rosa the resilient city recovery maps a rebuild data tracker and a parcel report search within the resilient city recovery maps portal is a menu of maps each providing different pieces of information important to the rebuild for instance within the recovery progress map use the legend in the upper right corner of that page to determine if a property is in the cleanup permitting or construction phase of rebuilding for each map users can view the status of a specific property simply by clicking on that property additional maps within this portal will provide detail on building step backs and zoning for each property plan surveyor activity encourage your permit activity building permit activity and right of way activity users can access more detailed information about a given property through the resilient city parcel report search tool each parcel report provides planning and design considerations property setback measurements as well as documents the city has on file related to the parcel real imagery of each individual lot with this tool users can also track the status of a permit and where it is in the review process or find information about a property's city utilities compiling this data all in one place easily accessible to our rebuild community is imperative and is one of the ways we are working to expedite various steps of this journey the steps we've taken to use technology with permitting process and taking advantage of the potential for electronic plan review people can walk in with a thumb drive that was one of the first things that we landed on that became a real benefit that was immediately noticed and it's sped up the process we're actually taking plans and electronically sending them all over the state to have people over the state help us out to get this plan reviewed back to us back in your hands so you can get your house rebuilt as quick as possible for me what makes Santa Rosa home is a lot of different things and I imagine that's the case for many of the residents here there's some obvious it's the weather it's proximal to the coast it's the beautiful hillsides that we have but for me it's the people and it always has been I remember early on in the process we started assisting people in the fire rebuild through the local assistance and a lot of the people I talked to then I talked to now I never forget the faces every single one it's always about the people for me that's my community I want to see them come back we are here for you and we want to get back into these homes and we want to get back to our community that we had okay so that leads us into rebuild stats so a lot of these charts were shown at the last update so what we see now is a bit of a snippet of what's currently on the website this always shows the total permit numbers we were over a thousand now approximately a thousand and seventy is the the current total and what we're seeing on the right is the breakdown of what's being proposed so this is really critical to the turnaround discussion initially we thought many people would come back with the same footprint and simply do code upgrades what we're finding is most people are making changes it's about 84 of people are proposing some level of change either major or minor so from an application standpoint this chart was shown at the last update we have seen in august 162 that's down a bit from 186 in july and then our hard point of 224 in may this was shown as well so this actually tracks the overall cumulative total of permits with the staff hours in the center and what we've seen is the staff hours a little down this is usually a week behind so it likely doesn't include the accounts from the last week in august the big peak and staff hours in july was to deal with the backlog and what we'll see in future slides is we've gotten through that and we've got the turnaround times on a pretty good track so very early on we tried to bucket the three different types and we put them into three different categories at the time we called it fast track expedited and prioritized and that basically matches up with fast track being the same plan so it's essentially the same footprint no changes only code upgrades expedited being minor changes and at that point we were really just looking at internal changes and the footprint is generally in the same location and major changes being the foundation is moving adding a story fairly drastic visual changes from the outside so same plan we were we were trying to achieve a one week turnaround time for the expedited we were charting one to three weeks and for the major we were charting three to five weeks and the top end of that range was pretty much accounting for the high volume times so what we've seen is that this is mainly due to the high peak in in may is we started charting average turnaround times in june and july and what this is looking at is really the number of working days in the first review so the first review is usually the most labor intensive and what we can see is the first bar on the right that is same plan the middle is the minor change and the right is the major change so we're hovering in june on an average turnaround time of about 13 days for the first two categories and then 20 what we had on that 20 is because there's a very small number so sometimes one can really skew the average because that is not the most popular category and what we saw in july is they settled out they were fairly similar and there was a lot of effort put in june and july to deal with the backlog and then that was the the results are shown in august and we knocked those down considerably in august what we can't show in this one but is really affecting june and july is the number of reviews permits actually went through there were a significant number of permits that got to a fourth or fifth or some even a sixth review so what we did to combat that is we really ensured completeness we worked with the various developers and the architects on the issuance aspect there were a lot of comments that we were writing that we just put on standard template list that we could just staple to the back of plans and what that actually resulted in is something fairly dramatic so what we're seeing here is this is really just breaking down august so we have a first review so this is our most labor intensive and as you can see same plan we're hovering about 10 there are 18 permits in that category in august for minor review that's seven days there's 95 permits and then eight days for major changes and there's 36 permits the applicant's response time on average is very similar and then we hit a second review and those numbers show over the counter so there are some in that middle category that were not they were done in three days there were no third fourth or fifth reviews they all stopped at the second in august so we've said a really good trend we're going to carry that through we understand the staffing levels that are needed to do that so i think we've had a huge success on dealing with the peak and now we're on a pretty good track to hold those so what this shows is actually an interesting point and is what most most of the property owners are concerned with is they know when a permit is issued and they know when they can engage their contractor and that individual can start building so that's the date it's applied for to the date it's issued so that does cover the turnaround time from the applicant's design team so what we're seeing is all three categories are pretty similar when all that's factored in it's about 17 working days from the day the application hits the door to the day they can engage their contractor to build and that actually summarizes the turnaround times and it summarizes our updates so at this point we can open it up to any questions you may have councillor then any questions councilmember soir thank you mr vice mayor just a request the um i don't believe that the power point is not in our packet as far as i know would we be able to get a copy of the power point or just those that some of the dates or some of the um accomplishments are pretty important and little timelines here would be nice to have absolutely the power point is posted online it's on the public portal under meetings and agendas excellent thank you and i also made it available on your ipads thanks great any other questions councilmember sweat home not a question just comment thank you so much for the work on the website the first part of your presentation i know how helpful this will be because it's that lack of information now you give an update information it was great when we started with a number of permits in the process but now actually to see where they are in that process and again i think the city at times and fairly has received a lot of the brunt of those delays when actually it might be on the developer on the builder side so thank you for this information i really think this is going to be a model for other communities who unfortunately are experiencing are about to experiences or we're going through i think they'll be looking to santa rosa is a model for what information they can give to their community so thank you so much for the work on this councilmember comes i want to say thank you also really nicely done and very much appreciate the concept of adding the checklist so that you don't keep making the same comments over and over again that's a really good idea the website information is so helpful will that ever be available for the city as a whole it seems to me that this is so useful here and intensively useful here but would be useful for a broader interest group building in our city yeah exactly and i think that's something that has come out of this is that what we've learned here things we put in practice we're trying them out and then we're taking those and implementing them city-wide and i have to give credit to it for partnering with us on that i think they saw the vision they jumped on it and they built it in a way with that city-wide launching it city-wide in mind so that we could extract like that so we're excited to be able to launch this put it city-wide and provide new tools for the public on all permitting activities so thank you it also thanks very much councilmember tibetz thank you mr vice mayor i just want to say thank you as well you guys are really taking this department to a new level i really think so and thanks to debbie too who i guess helped develop this and for anybody in the planning department watching this meeting thanks to them as well for actually i mean really just stepping up and clearly are working really really hard and and have embraced this change it's you know has been brought to the planning department and it's it's a pleasure to be able to represent the city when you've got folks like that in that department doing yeoman's work to really help people out as a quick question for the major changes with the average time is being down is that because those are some of the ones that we are sending around the state and getting assistance to what we've actually found with the major changes a lot of the policy pieces that we put in place early on to really streamline that to make it easier for our planning section to make divisions has truncated that turnaround time so what we found is that a lot of the efforts where they paid off the most is when people were dramatically shifting the design because it created a clear policy determination so what we're trying to do is because we're seeing it across the board is to really throw the resources and not discriminate between the three categories because we think we can right now we set ourselves up in a really really good spot to do it so they're not necessarily being pieced off category by category and then one category being sent out that's more or less a response of potentially a backlog so as they come in off-site they can do all three mainly because there's clear policy direction on that front I appreciate that thank you so much and I know staff has worked really hard to get rid of any barriers that were in the way are we seeing any particular trends right now of what's holding people up or slowing people down that we should see before this council I know that's a really broad question yeah I think what we saw early on was to be honest lack of engineering geotech resources that slowed plans getting to us those are coming to us now I think what we're starting to see is labor labor materials at my first meeting today where I had a request from a contractor looking for a place to house workers there they're going to be pulling workers in from Colorado and Arizona to try to keep up with the number of homes that they're trying to build they're even bringing in labor for other contractors that are short framers and others so they're trying to share the labor force between contractors at this point that's where we're finding the biggest hurdle at this point I know pretty early on we heard some estimates related to the increase in costs for labor and for materials I think it was about 20 for labor and about 15 for materials do we have any kind of an update on what the market is actually looking like now that we have over a thousand homes in process we don't have that number off the top of my head we do have a monthly meeting with all the contractors and we have a meet actually meeting this Thursday morning so that's a question we'll bring up and see see if they can give us a number of what they're seeing out there both on labor and materials be good to know that great thank you so much I also do want to just add one more plug I think the rebuild energy incentive that some clean powers put in place they're starting to get a lot more interest in that we're also starting to talk to some of the master plan developers that are doing a lot of homes and there there's there is interest in building some model homes and even building net zero alternatives for the master plan the options that they're providing so some of the powers and that's been another great partner and we've been meeting with them talking to them showing how it could be done so that's something that hopefully we'll be able to roll out soon but we still want to make sure that people know that that's out there it's an option if people are interested they can contact us or some of the clean power and we'll get them the information again it's a great program and we'd like to see it be taken advantage of great thank you so much I have one card on this Mr. DeWitt my name is Duane DeWitt I'm from Roseland some months back I asked a few folks would somehow get information about the renters and the apartment rebuilds and also the mobile home park people folks from journey's end it's almost a month now since the fire excuse me a year and one month it'll be one year since the fire could you please get information to share with the public as to how the renters are being treated it's really important because I believe about half of the people affected by the fire were renters and not actual property owners thank you for your time thank you so much move on to city manager and city attorney reports thank you vice mayor I do have one item the community advisory board will kick off its annual community open house series on Wednesday September 12th at the Finley community center auditorium from 6 to 7 30 p.m these open house events are opportunities for Santa Rosa residents to visit with city staff have questions answered and learn more about the many projects programs and services offered by the city of Santa Rosa joining our city staff this year will be community partners from the Sonoma county of resiliency and recovery California hope trauma counselors st. Joseph's health of Sonoma county and the Sonoma county library for a complete list of all open house dates and locations please visit www.srcity.org slash cabs eab open house for more information thank you thank you so much I do see that we have the chair of the community advisory board here today as well madam city attorney I have nothing to report this afternoon great counselor there are any abstentions from the items today seeing none we'll go on to mayors and council members reports who wants to start nothing council member olivares thank you mr vice mayor I just wanted to remind everybody that we have started our violence prevention awareness month it's gone to a month instead of a week as in a past beginning tomorrow with a violence prevention seminar at the finley center on the 14th we have a night walk and ice cream social believe on the west side on the 15th a youth basketball tournament the 19th a parent awareness training the 22nd a the annual south park day and night festival and then finally the 29th the roseland unity run so I encourage you all to find some of these activities during the course of the month and get out there being gays and be more aware of the work that many many are doing in our community to keep our youth safe council member tippants thank you vice mayor I'm looking for support to revisit our chap ordinance it's been an effect for I think close to two years now and I was hoping that we could get an update on it I think it's a really good foundational tool a lot of work went into it but it's not being utilized to the extent at which it can be in the community right now especially at a time when I think we really need it but just a revisiting of it using the resilient city ordinance is a perfect example of good policy that became great policy because we it's been revisited so many times so if anybody would be willing to to give a second it'd be much appreciated I'll second that great there's a motion and the second and it will come back before the council as a non-agenda item looking to add it to the agenda council member comes thank you council member tippants and I also had an excellent creek and waterways meeting and I did not bring all of the data I thought you might be reporting out on that one for the creek week cleanups but our folks do an amazing job cleaning up our creeks we often get truckloads out of the creeks and that's actually one of my favorite boards and commissions to be on because of how much cleanup we're doing and of course we've got the prince memorial greenway cleanup that we've discussed happening on the on the 15th I'm not sure if I should mention this now during report outs or if I should mention it at item 13.8 so I'm going to mention it now and if if the city attorney advises me that it should be discussed at 13.8 I will talk about it at 13.8 I attended a meeting with a number of residents who were concerned again about the alternative housing or alternative structures that are allowed under our CHAP program and it came to my attention that we have received a directive from the state with regard to what alternative housing can look like that would allow some kinds of housing this may be the way that tough sheds are being handled under the Oakland policies and it concerns me that we are in the process now of evicting a group of people from huts because they do not have the correct dimensions to meet the new state guidelines for what alternative housing can be and my understanding also is that in order to implement this we need to be clearer in our declaration of emergency it was not clear to me if we needed to be clear in our declaration of housing emergency or if we needed to be clear in our declaration of homeless emergency we have both of these and it wasn't clear to me which one was the one we needed to be clearer in to meet the state guidelines so I'm not sure if this is part of the CHAP conversation we just started to enter in if this is part of 13.8's declaration of homeless emergency or if this is something that we discuss now that I would ask to agendize now um and I apologize that it's just unclear to me which of these three things that is I would say that it is um it would be appropriate for you to agendize it or ask that it be included in um in the update on CHAP would be another alternative to combine those but those could also be two separate agenda items as um the the earlier one would be the CHAP and the second would be to re-examine our two declarations okay what is on the agenda for today is simply a continuation of the homeless emergency and it would not be appropriate to delve into that to consider any modifications to that declaration at this point okay I had at the time that we moved that item some time ago before fires um thought that it gave us flexibility that it may not be giving us based on the new documents that have come down from the state um so I would like to ask that the conversation about the alternative housing be included in the CHAP motion if you don't mind having that included in that discussion and I'd also like um for the discussion of how we might need to amend the alternate housing provisions of our CHAP program I mean excuse me the alter the um how we might amend the provisions of the emergency ordinances to come forward if I can get a second on that is there a second for that motion I didn't know I had to make a motion so I was gonna didn't prep the yeah I've heard of this ordinance from the league of not the league of california cities I think it was the association of california counties c-sac or whatever the acronym is I'm fine with that okay so we'll I'm asking for both of those my concern is that we have people who have um eviction notices on huts today um and yet we don't fully understand ourselves even within our own permitting department I mean our own code enforcement department what's required to be provided as alternative housing um at what point do we as a council have the ability to say can we postpone enforcement on people who are in units that were built in good faith but now may not meet a new state requirement we can't do that today but in code enforcement can go forward today without our approval or disapproval I mean we can't make any statement one way or the other so what do we do in order to have people not be put on the street I mean I appreciate it's not the right housing but no housing is worse it is again not not agendized for this evening and so it would have to be placed on the agenda and indeed my understanding is the huts that are out there currently do not meet current building standards health and safety standards and that is my understanding that is why code enforcement is moving forward on those on those units my understand I appreciate that this is an extended conversation that we need to have agendized yes at what point do it's not clear that they're going through the same process as that the host program has gone through where they meet with people and get them into shelters that was not made clear during the conversation that I had with the department doing the enforcement I would suggest that we have this conversation offline and again it can be agendized with the update on the chap as well I just am has I'm willing to have it agendized with the chap but I am very concerned that we have people being put on the street with no way for us to say please don't do that until we can get this conversation yes and I hear that concern thank you for hearing that concern thank you gentlemen if I could if I could add my voice to that as well perhaps in the interim if the city attorney could also review both the guidelines that came down from seasack or league of cities whatever is being referenced but also our previous policies that this council has passed related towards the trying to move people into services before we take any type of action to to clear out encampments yes see if there's some wiggle room in there and if you could give guidance in the meantime to code enforcement while we bring that discussion back to the council that'd be appreciated I'm happy to look at all those materials and we port back to council great thank you so much go to council members I along with the mayor and vice mayor and some city staff um toward some different locations in the city of san diego from both the city perspective county perspective two on one regarding their um office of emergency services my hope is I know the city manager is not here though we'll reconvene probably with our subcommittee tickle my list is long in looking at ways that san diego is known what can we implement here in snow accounting in san rosa but I think it was a very helpful trip and I really appreciate the time and effort that went into planning the trip and also the time and effort that the folks in san diego uh put into actually making it very useful for a time but well worth our time thank you council member and I will just echo those sentiments that was definitely one of the most eye-opening trips that I think I've taken as a council member uh san diego gas and electric has 177 weather stations throughout their county that run 10 million simulations per day on what could happen if a fire breaks out at any place in the county um taking into account shifts in weather including shifts in wind direction and are actually able to model what will happen in the event of a fire it's pretty incredible and I hope we can bring some of that technology back to sonoma county and at least we have a better understanding of what's possible and how to implement it so hopefully take a look as we roll that out in the next couple of months I'll also mention uh with mayors and council members association many of us were up in sacramento last week dealing with the end of session craziness it is not just the end of one year's session but the end of a seated body in the capital with the new election in november a lot of bills that were in process over the last two years were completed or failed and I'd actually like to ask staff one of the most watched bills was sp901 that is the bill that is directly related to liability around the 2017 fires it'd be really helpful I think for us and for the public if we utilized our fire recovery and rebuild update to get an informational item specifically about what came out of that bill how that will impact our community and sort of what the next steps coming are I don't know if you need a motion for that but if so I'm happy to make a motion we we do not need a motion for that great with that we will move on to item 11.2.1 this is the city council considering the appointment of both the joint city and county representative and the city's representative to the Sonoma county library commission for a four-year term. City attorney would you like to walk us through sort of the the process and I believe that there are a couple of questions from the council related to this one as well. Yes we're going to I apologize was there a card agenda so Thomas it looks like you're actually talking on something that is not on the agenda can we hold this for your public comment on items not related to the agenda the council member is making a motion that we'll discuss next week so it's not on the agenda yet but if you'd like I'll hold your card and have you talk during public comment so Madam City Attorney. Yes we'll take the two positions library positions separately the first vote will be on the joint appointment and we have as I understand it just one applicant for that position on the second which is the city's own appointment there are three applicants and we would recommend that you follow your traditional process for other committee appointments and do a you have three applicants for one position so we'll do a process of elimination so that you'll identify your top two candidates and then out of those top two um you'll do a final vote and the um to earn a seat on the commission the can the applicant will need to obtain four votes um from the council. Great there were two specific questions related to this item the first was sort of a logistics question uh coming over on the joint appointee recommendation from the county does the individual have to reside in the city of Santa Rosa in order to be considered for the joint position? No they do not. Okay and if the council chooses not to accept the recommendation from the board of supervisors are we able to make our own recommendation or can we only reject theirs and have them send us another nominee? My understanding is you do not have another applicant that's before you so without having an alternative the the only thing you could do it either to be to accept or decline that applicant and request another proposal from my understanding is the proposal is to come from the chair of the board and the mayor as a joint recommendation. Okay and we have no idea how many applicants they considered they only sent us the one is that correct? That's my understanding. Okay councilor are there any other questions? So during during the interview phase I asked and each of the applicants to our position indicated that there were uh that they had applied for both so in fact we interviewed four people who had applied for both positions my understanding though is that the the county has not given us any alternatives that puts us in a rather awkward position I think because we're unable to determine for example what additional persons were applied and it doesn't feel like it's a joint decision when it happens that they send us one person to choose among. Yes and I do understand although the policy states that again the chair of the board of supervisors and the mayor of the city council will make a joint recommendation to both bodies that that is my understanding is that's not how it progressed in this instance so you would have the option to again either accept the applicant that was recommended by the county or you could decline the applicant with no further comment or you could ask that not that you're declining this applicant but that you would ask that that we go back and do that process again with a more collaborative process between the two so chair and the mayor. We could postpone one of these decisions until the collaborative process was able to go forward. Yes and I would ask my fellow council members with no I have no problems with any of the applicants that I have I have met today be going forward in that joint position but I would like for the process to be a more improved and joint process so I do not want to reject the applicant they have suggested I'm wondering if my colleagues would agree to go forward with the idea that we ask for the joint process to be completed. Yes and I would it's an and I would clarify then you'd be asking that that be that the process be reinstituted without prejudice to the current applicant. Thank you I wanted to say without prejudice. Right the current applicant would be most welcome to participate in that process. Right so I'm hearing a motion from council member combs is there a second for the motion first and foremost? I had second that. All right is there any discussion on the motion council member Swaddlem? For city attorney do we know was the mayor involved in this decision at all? I do not know myself. Okay thank you. The assistant city manager deputy city manager is clarifying that no the mayor was not included in that process. And this is specific to the joint city county representative we will still be taking up the secondary item is by understanding under the the motion for the city only representative after this. Councillor are there any other questions or comments? Council member Tibbets. So if this is the action that assuming this is the action that we end up taking then it makes sense to me that we just defer the process until the mayor is met with the board chair given the applicants and where they applied. Are you speaking in its entirety both the joint and the city specific? I'm willing to accept that as a friendly amendment. It would certainly be interesting if we chose someone as the city representative and then they chose that person to come forward as the joint rep. So let's let's give that opportunity a chance to happen. Thank you. Do we know is there any time frame any issues if we delay this decision? Because I get where I'm struggling is we conducted interviews today that people took their time out and we have we have the information for the city representative the scenario you just described that be disappointing if someone were to do something that we already just appointed to but do you know that I'm not aware of any time frame and I'm looking over to the city clerk who is shaking her head yes yeah I'm not aware of the time frame either there will be no unintended consequences by delaying this I do not know that the answer what is the next commission meeting it'll take me a minute to look that up for you okay so the the motion that's been seconded is to postpone our vote on items 11 on item 11.2.1 until the mayor has had a chance to meet with the chair of the board of supervisors and actually discuss this process is that correct? I think we don't have the second having accepted the amendment yet okay my only concern again from the city representative person we just conducted interviews if there are no unintended consequences if it's fairly soon if we'll be able to do this expeditiously so it doesn't impact the library commission I'd be fine in accepting that friendly amendment right their next scheduled meeting is september 8th at september 8 monday at 6 30 to 9 p.m. september 8th is a saturday oh i'm sorry that's what they have posted on there let's let me dig a little bit more here are there any applicants in the audience who know the date of the next oh they have a special meeting september 14th and then their next regular scheduled meeting is september 17th council members what help will you second the item if i ask one more question can we get this read agendized to our next council meeting it could be read agendized next regular council meeting is the september 25th so that would be the the soonest unless you scheduled a special meeting we couldn't do it on the 7th that special meeting that special meeting is addressing water issues it's a little awkward to include something quite that different well and i also believe that meeting so he wouldn't have an opportunity to sit down with the chair i'll accept the friendly amendment no i don't want to make a decision with lacking information okay council member soyer just for clarification um council member combs it is your recollection that each of these applicants did indeed ask for both or apply for both because it would be unfortunate if if we were delaying it and then and then they weren't interested in being in i i asked all three of the ones specific to us and they each stated and i made notes that they did apply for the joint just want to confirm that okay do we have any cards on this item miss combs i do not okay council your votes the the motion is to push this off to the next council meeting once the mayor has a chance to meet with the chair of the board of supervisors and that passes with six eyes and we will work with the mayor to schedule to find the the soonest that we can bring it back to council i understand that we may have two special meetings coming up and we can look at those to see whether either those meetings might be appropriate to bring this back great thank you all right item 11.3.1 request for a future agenda item council member combs i believe this is yours thank you very much this is a request that we discuss a future at a future soon council meeting the nondiscrimination housing ordinance that we have funded through the budget hearing process a recent court decision allows us to move forward with this item there had been some questions regarding for example Santa Monica's ordinance had been questioned in court and a recent court decision now frees us to move forward with the nondiscrimination about voucher users and you may have been aware of a recent press democrat article by kevin fixler in which he discusses the problems that some people in our county are having with the use of vouchers the fact that we have ads that indicate that no voucher users are accepted the fact that we have veterans who have vouchers who cannot find housing because their veteran their earned veteran voucher is not being accepted and i bring to your attention that you did receive an email today from Matthew Jensen who is a veteran three tours of duty us marine corps and us army and the srgc veteran student advisor indicating that he found the program i think as he says that this program is not just about housing but it also makes veterans successful in society it gives them a hand up with finances socialization and wellness he says it is a life-changing program that helps the men and women who serve this great country and city have a chance of wellness and hope and last but not least how can we say we discriminated how can we discriminate against the men and women who signed the dotted line to protect our freedoms we enjoy today so he's requesting that we move forward the agenda item for discussion of the ordinance for nondiscrimination against veterans and other voucher holders all right council are there any questions all right i have a few cards on this dabbing card in this hello council dabbing card in us north bay organizing project we wanted to speak in support of moving this conversation forward we've been working with many tenants many hud recipients who would be directly affected are being directly affected by this policy or lack of protections and so we think it should be a slam dunk should be a pretty simple policy to move forward we believe especially looking at what san diego recently did i was in the home of another veteran yesterday a vietnam veteran who's working with legal aid being evicted because he has no protections trying to figure out what his next step is going to be if this is one small piece of the puzzle in terms of talking about recovery and talking about housing and tenant protections and we really support this moving forward today in in actual policy in the very near future thank you bye thank you sir mr duane thank you sir and he'll be followed by shelly clark hello my name is duane do it i'm from roseland i'm also a united states army veteran and i think it's really important that you do have a policy for nondiscrimination the program that's known as hud vash housing urban developments veterans affairs vouchers these section 8 vouchers are very valuable to the people that receive them and they're not getting the fair shake if you will to get into spots i think that one of the dilemmas is there hasn't been a real strong effort on the part of both city and county staff at housing authorities and housing departments to push and say help get these veterans into a place to live as soon as possible as a matter of fact there's an approach that's being taken called project-based vouchers in which developers are looking to get those vouchers so they can build something and that takes longer than just housing somebody as soon as possible if you folks would agendize this item and let people speak about it we could show how important it is to get people a place to stay now in this cold weather instead of years down the road no discrimination against voucher holders very important thank you thank you mr duit folks we've got a long agenda if you'd please abide by the custom thank you shelly clark hello i'm shelly clark i'm the housing policy attorney at legal aid of sonoma county i've interacted with several of you so it's nice to see you i thank you for this opportunity to speak i'm here to let you know of legal aid strong support for a source of income discrimination ordinance for santa rosa residents and there are two thousand participating families in the voucher program there are two main types of vouchers so there's section eight vouchers that's really vulnerable members of our community seniors people with disabilities low income people and then there are also the vouchers that julie mentioned that are specifically for veterans called bash and so right now there are no protections for voucher holders and so a landlord can actually say i'm evicting you because you have a housing choice voucher so that's a big problem um as you know this type of ordinance would prevent landlords from discriminating against housing choice voucher holders in that way um it's already extremely hard to find housing for a housing choice voucher um and so this would help prevent people from being denied housing simply because they have a voucher and it would help keep people in place in their homes jurisdictions across the state have adopted this type of ordinance just to name a few they're san francisco san amonica um where i live in fairfax in marin and then also the county of marin so that ordinance serves unincorporated areas of marin um at legal aid we um have numerous clients that have been evicted for this reason we see ongoing discrimination against housing choice voucher holders especially section eight recipients um and especially since the fires um this type of ordinance would offer protection and stability to housing choice voucher holders and it also fits in your overall goals of preserving affordable housing um and helping to stabilize our community so you know i asked that you guys move forward with this at least have the conversation let people talk about it that you know think about it um and you know i hope that we can be a resource for you i sent most of you an email today you have my contact information um so please feel free to reach out again my title is housing policy attorney illegal aid of sonoma county and um any anything that i can help you i know you have um very capable staff um but if we can be a resource in any way and again i ask that this move forward thanks very much thank you so much i'm going to bring it back to the council council are there any other question oh i apologize i don't have your card in front of me go ahead just 10 seconds i would just like to rise and say that homeless action also supports this item thank you great go ahead mr else thank you i just wanted to be in support of this as well it didn't save vouchers in the in the agenda and um it's very important and i hope to come back to the council with a proposal on something that could be interim and we'll explain that later but it's very important thank you great thank you so much council are there any additional questions or discussion council member soyer thank you mr vice mayor um i have concerns about the here i would like to hear the full story as to the positives the negatives the unexpected consequences of forcing our landlords to enter into a federal program um i we've heard today that the positives and i think that the the only way to get a full airing and to hear that both sides of this discussion is would be to put it on the agenda um because there are there there will be unexpected consequences in moving forward with with the possibly moving forward with it within it with a an ordinance like this and i think um we need to hear it so i'll be voting in support moving forward with an agenda item so that we can get up a get the whole story from both sides right anyone else all right council your votes and that passes with six eyes thank you moving on to approval of minutes council were there any amendments to the june 5th 2018 minutes we will show those as adopted mr tato thank you vice mayor consent items 13.1 motion approval of design bill procurement for courthouse square bollards item 13.2 motion and resolution contract award city of santa rosa parking garage number 19 sorry number nine for 2017 repairs item 13.3 resolution amendment to the city classification and salary plan creating classification title of principal human resources analysts and reclassification of two vacant human resources analyst positions to the to the principal human resource analyst item 13.4 resolution approval of funding agreement and supplement to funding agreement with metropolitan transportation commission redowntown station area specific plan update item 13.5 resolution microsoft enterprise agreement item 13.6 resolution approval of second amendment to professional services agreement with robert hunter erinson item 13.7 resolution authorization for the city of santa rosa to join the california public finance authority joint exercise of powers agreement item 13.8 resolution extension of proclamation of local homeless emergency item 13.9 resolution extension of proclamation of existence of local emergency due to fires thank you and i apologize council we actually need to step back for a quick second and take a revote on item 11.3.1 the agenda for the agenda item for a future agenda so if you would please submit your votes again yeah this is put it on the agenda just a second maybe we need to revote yeah we'll take a five minute recess we'll come back and bring us back and i will explain what's been going on as we took a recess it was realized that actually three council members are in conflict with the the previous vote the requested agenda item requesting a non-discrimination and non-discrimination housing ordinance therefore we actually with three members conflicted out and only six members we would not be able to hit the forevote threshold that we would need to move that agenda item forward so what we will do is we will continue that item to the september 25th meeting when mayor corsie returns and we have at least four members who are eligible to vote for that if they so choose so with that we will move back to consent and excuse me i i appreciate there's some difficulty here can we there has been some discussion about whether the vouchers are used for room rentals or not i will look into into the scope of the the voucher program and whether it applies to those that are renting only a room and not a full unit at this point i don't see a distinction but i am going to look into that and confirm that and we'll have to revisit revisit the motion itself thank you so and i apologize we'll bring that back as quickly as we can but also not date specific so september 25th is our goal date but we will say the next council meeting that is available for mayor corsie's return he is not there on that one okay we'll say the next meeting that the mayor is here for we'll work we'll work with the mayor to schedule that great thank you as soon as we can going back to consent council are there any items that you'd like to pull off of the consent calendar today council member comes this seems to be my busy day um i would like to pull item 13.2 to have a conversation around that item thank you okay i'm not pulling 13.8 on the understanding that that will come to us for modifications at some point in the future okay and council do you have any questions for staff items 13.1 13.3 through 13.9 council member soyer thank you mr. vice mayor i do have a question on 13.1 the bollards there is a plan in place or at least a proposal to have a water feature in courthouse square how will has that has that been considered in the placement of the the bollards and if so how does that play into um this conversation i'll ask div dipmer our engineer supervising engineer on the project to come forward and ask answer those questions thank you given the proposed placement of that water feature so tonight uh in accordance with city code we're just asking uh for approval from the council to move forward with the design build process and we haven't done anything as far as layout yet so we're not to that level of detail but obviously uh that would have to be taken into consideration okay thank you council members what help while you're here i i saw in the staff report said sufficient funds have been allocated the cip can you give a better parameter what are sufficient funds for this type of most of them are in the courthouse square account uh they was uh the release of a cum and cumbers after the construction contract um we might have uh to move a little bit of money from some other accounts if if that doesn't turn out to be enough i mean do you have a ballpark figure how much the bollards cost there's a picture of one i know in the staff report where i go for uh the installation of them including everything we're estimating to be in the neighborhood of six hundred thousand dollars thank you right thank you uh we any other questions council council member tibbetz thank you have so as part of this process i mean are you going to study the the efficacy of these bollards the stated intent in the staff report is to guard the public against some sort of a malevolent act with an automobile and i understand that and that's that's important but at the same time you do look at this price tag and you you think about okay are there other points of ingress are we covering everything i mean so this this wouldn't be uh necessarily a comprehensive solution to all the events in uh you know in the downtown area this would uh the design of this would be to take the most obvious path and that would be a high speed vehicle coming up mendicino or down mendicino or up san rosa avenue just for the sake of comparison you said that this is a fund specific to old courthouse square are there other stated priorities things that require funding on a courthouse square i think that's an important thing to understand before we well there was the aforementioned um the water feature which we're looking for funds through that through you know fundraising and all and then ultimately there is a uh as part of the plan there's a public art piece on the north end of the square okay all right i i appreciate it i think it's probably important that you know we are on the side of caution when it's potentially somebody's life and it's coming from a dedicated account but thank you for filling me in so council members what else do you have another question not on this item but on 13.5 not sure who i'd be addressing this to but my question is the 200 000 dollars contingency and there's one sentence in the staff report uh staff indicates that the city will be required to purchase additional software such as azir and there's absolutely no information about what azir is and i haven't seen it we're doing a contingency in case we might need that so the 200 000 contingency christie barlett it operations manager um the 200 000 contingency will be for any additional software and we're looking at cloud services and that's what azir is so to do our backups into the cloud that would be part of this cost i guess what i'm struggling is the 200 000 contingency it does that mean it may not occur we may not we don't know what the full cost will be per year we're estimating 20 000 for that um back up to the cloud for everything that we have we're not doing it currently we just got into the cloud so this will be additional to that and we just don't have the exact cost yet okay it would be helpful i would have loved to get a little bit more information because i did some googlings to see what this azir is because 200 000 given our budgetary times now is like is this a cost that we can afford to forward right now yes i'm trying to put it into context of all the other so we are this is another side thing but we are redoing our sand solution and we have currently two sands one at city hall anix and one across town we are eliminating one of those sands and this will come back in a few weeks to purchase that but in part we want to then back up instead of across town up into the cloud and so we're estimating that cost to be about 20 000 a year so it's part of a bigger strategy it is yes it is yeah and we do have the funding for that we'll take it from one place to another okay thank you council member tidbits sorry i have a question on two different items do i just pull them up yeah go ahead okay i have a question on 13.6 the auditor with mr erenson and i was curious uh what the reasoning was for the the 31 000 increase and i didn't see anything that kind of justified the increase uh councilman tidbits this um takes the contract to the end of the year calendar year so um we've had previous discussions about not uh extending this in the next fiscal year so this just allows for his uh current work to be finished out this calendar year okay thank you and i really fast i had a similar question uh on that item it says that his report is due to the council at the beginning of november so if we're paying him through the end of the year what is he doing the rest of november and december but i'm not sure if someone from police there part of his work is also providing some training a review of our processes and procedures and also providing training so i'm assuming he will continue uh doing that work until his contract is ended okay go ahead council member oh well i think do you want to add anything captain good afternoon uh rain of aro captain with sanders police department uh mr erison is going to be um he's completing uh several um um there's several reports and working with our professional standards uh team uh to develop and continue on uh through the next through the rest of the year so um he's going to work continue to work with our sergeant um who is continuing to develop uh some of our uh standards and uh working through uh different different reports right now okay thanks and then mr vice mayor if i could bring up next go ahead thank you uh i have a question on 13.2 about the parking we've uh pulled up oh it's pulled my apologies any other questions council great we'll go to public comment uh i will take public comment on all of the items including 13.2 at this time uh so we'll start with ann cealy you don't need to speak russell becker followed by anita lafellette uh i come in front of the community today um um i've been homeless for about five six years now and i'm a burn victim and i'm disabled and uh i want to say about uh all these houses that are vacant and everything else why can't the committee go in and you know put up more homeless shelters or or whatever they need to accommodate you know the disabled uh that are you know disabled on being homeless because being homeless you're more liable to become a victim you know on the streets you know um especially with you have a mental disability or physical disability like i do um which prevents me from doing certain things uh prevents me from pursuing what i do to advance myself like working um you know volunteering at places that i do get them back to the community um i try to you know accommodate and help other people uh through crisis situations you know um but it's just nobody deserves to be out there especially if they suffer from a mental disability or physical disability um but i would just ask the community to you know consider about these vacant buildings that they're going to tear down and rebuild on new ones and you know think about you know building up homeless shelters and you know and try to you know accommodate this state of emergency being homeless in california um but that's all i have thank you thank you russle anita lafellette followed by dwayne duit good afternoon um i have a few things to say and then i'm giving my my time to john i wanted to let you know that the chap could apply to the huts that uh julie has mentioned and to the rvs and we need to make those applications and um also the emergency proclamation is in support of code changes so the question about changing the codes for the huts doesn't apply since we have the emergency proclamation unless it's my misunderstanding here and also i want to let you know that scott has a slideshow about uh the the work that he's done up in washington and portland uh showing a lot of the new ideas and other things that will open up our eyes to some new ideas and that's being shown at the hchc on 924 here's john yeah my name's john a vincent um i've had crank fatigue syndrome for 45 years had to me homeless people in my house and they got into dealing drugs and on march 3rd the judge ruled that i could not go back to my house living in my van and pretty much okay it's a big van but i don't leave a mess i don't i'm not loud nobody's ever complained about anything i've ever done being wherever i've been at in my van but still i've been um told to leave different places around the one cop i forget his name he's well known to to us but i wanted just simply a place to be and to be you know basically left alone well i should i want to mention that when i lost my house fair housing told me that i could put the people out of my problem of my house but an officer of the jc police told me that i'd be violating the law and subject to arrest so that was you know unfair i want to appeal it but with crank fatigue syndrome you just fall short on you know all kinds of stuff you just don't make it so anyway there's gotta be property place of accommodation that could be made for people like me is it present no problem thank you thank you anita and john duane de witt followed by barana paca thank you sir my name is duane de witt i'm from roslyn i'd like to request to be able to speak on 13.2 after i hear the comments from the council members that's the fair way to deal with that but just in case i'd like to say deconstruct the garage and put housing there instead 13.4 you have this idea of getting 800 000 from the metropolitan transportation commission to do planning and it's a 10-year time window land use for housing is a very important component of the downtown specific plan i would ask the two folks also reach out to the university of california at berkeley where they have a school of city planning architecture and ask them to have graduate studios done at this time looking into how the community could have authentic community engagement to talk about what they'd really like to have for housing in the downtown area and have that be made available to this consultant otherwise if the question is not asked it won't be addressed on the next level 13.7 this joint powers authority agreement i'd like to see you do one with the city of eureka and try to get yourself a public bank and do your own bond financing and help the taxpayers rather than setting it up so that a lot of money will go to wall street brokers that's not necessarily as helpful on the resolution to extend the homeless emergency please do that and also in that homeless emergency make an allowance have a waiver to allow alternative housing such as the huts that are already in use so that they won't be lost and then we get down to the last one 13.9 the fires it's been almost a year a month from now the fire started in october so right now it's kind of cold in the evening right now it seems like it won't happen again but over where i live in roseland we've gone out of our way to preserve a nice oak woodland along roseland creek right now the grass and the underbrush is really dry it's almost like tender for a fire and we've got people coming in they're smoking people that basically look at it like well hey there's no sign up even though it may be a park so we get to do what we want so i'd ask you to when you say we understand we have a fire emergency please make sure and practice fire safety year-round on city-owned lands and get some signs up out there on burbank avenue and say no smoking allowed thank you very much for your time thank you duane brianne apaca followed by kandace aliza hey so my name right um the homeless emergency it feels like nothing's really been done since you passed that so if we could um just like um miss combs said it's fine that she's out of the room because i don't really need to speak with her she's got her head on straight and she's looking for the ways that we can actually get people into the most basic housing that you guys can accept so um to the three of you um not mr. chivitz but the rest of you if you could just figure out what the minimum is that you need and let the people there's plenty of people in the community and businesses and there's plenty of opportunities to um just let people fix this problem and it seems like you're stopping people from fixing the problem and it's really sad um we need housing for disabled people elderly people women who end up on the streets and um and yeah it uh anyway and foster kids and people with who suffer from seizures it's really really really really sad um people call verity um and call whomever and there's no housing options for them to even put the the most severe cases people who are going to have seizures get punched in the face and have all of their stuff stolen from them that night that happened a few days ago to somebody i know um yeah um yeah so i'll yield the rest of my time to whoever i don't know thank you brianna just stop kandace aliza followed by john solo my name is kandace aliza i think that there's a housing emergency even before the fire and there's still always will be a housing emergency as long as one american is sleeping on the streets or in their car my ancestor william bruster came over in the mayflower my father was appointed by governor brown's father he was co-author of sequa law i've been homeless gone about 25 years put myself through college i have a six-year college education and i just uh i think huts are not even a question we're under equal protection of the law what's it's a u.s constitutional law we were all regular people like everyone else before we became homeless and we're not substandard citizens we've got talents were playwrights and artists and authors and brothers and sisters and uncles and almost every family uh around has someone in their family that's homeless and can you imagine i just turned 72 and i can't even lay down and my legs are swollen but that's just my case and i didn't want to talk about my case there's so many you know my heart's been with the indigenous people was the people that lived on this land before we even came before my ancestor even came and they have the most substandard uh available for food housing and shelter education but real quickly i i i come over from nappa and there's no napkins left nappa is and and i've been traveling all over the state of california and i don't know if you realize or not but our state's being taken over by the world there's a lot of people from china a lot of people from france a lot of people from mexico a lot of people from russia and if i go put my name on a housing list in in nappa they say sorry there's 900 people on the list and i was on the housing list for eight years but nonetheless i will sleep in my truck i'm grateful to have a truck tonight but you know what when the persideo became available i thought good they're gonna put all the homeless people and we're gonna end this homelessness i've lived through two federal laws that are called end of homelessness a 10 year and another 10 year that's 20 years of end homelessness funds that have come in to our legislatures and very quickly before i end i know the time is valuable here uh when i moved to nappa from sabasco because i couldn't find a place to live that i could afford i uh i would like to mention the electricity really quick i believe janice i need you to please wrap up yes well i believe that the fires are from having too many electric substations and too much heat thank you kandace not the tree branches john solo followed by victoria yannis well my name is john solo i'm homeless and apparently i'm a criminal i've been told by four of san rosa spinus that all homeless are methodics and thieves you know and that's not true they're granted there are quite a few that are homeless and that they are thieves and drug addicts but you know to be classified in that you know to be stereotype is just not right you know and uh i feel that we're probably gonna end up being the next japanese and we're gonna be putting internment camps because you know we're substandard citizens the useless eaters yeah and uh i just feel that that's wrong and i know that there's trillions of dollars being spent on things like housing anthrax and other biohazardous materials they're not enough on the homeless let's bring some of that money back here to the us and not fight wars that are based on lies you know weapons of mass destruction we're the ones with the weapons of mass destruction they didn't find anything over there did they so i guess that's my that's all i got to say thank you john victoria yannis followed by john vincent victoria yannis from homeless action i really don't know what to say anymore because you have uh you're about to pass the emergency housing resolution and i haven't seen anything come out of that i would like to know for the council members that are always voting against homeless issues the four that were pointed out earlier the former police officers and everybody um what is your vision of a solution to the problem all we know is what you don't want and what don't you want you don't want anything that exists this banishment is not legal you cannot banish the poor out of your community these are santa rosans i try to tell them you're not homeless the earth is your home santa rosa is your home and don't let anybody tell you it isn't my father picked grapes here but we need a few council members to stand up as champions to bring their communities to some understanding sure let's spend another 600 000 at um courthouse square where there's no bathrooms let's spend another how many hundreds of thousands to redo the yard let's redo the yard out here again or somewhere else that we know we need it homeless are really the bottom priority and the only reason you're probably going to get hit now is because you know the money coming down the line and i don't know how you're going to use it if you can't figure out any solutions who need to bend over a little bit be flexible safe parking safe parking should be the least threatening to you can you not rent a parking lot like they do in san diego they rent big parking lots or agencies do can you encourage them to do that people only want to sleep somewhere in their car without being bothered by the police at night happen to the safe parking programs that were going on here for a while they were very successful they had a bathroom dissipated in that program for a while and then when i got discontinued they didn't give me a notice they just called the police that's catholic charity's version of due process thank you victoria john vincent followed by scott wagner uh thank you john scott wagger followed by merlin council members good to be here again i just wanted to refer to 13.8 and just by inference 13.9 the uh the request to extend the emergency proclamation and as a council member comb said i i'm sure that you have some work to do to align new uh new suggestions that are coming in on that and i didn't want to talk about that i just wanted to mention the history a little bit of this when when mere sorrier was was having these conversations in public about initially doing the the emergency proclamation he was reticent to do so because he was concerned that we were setting ourselves up for failure and i don't know if you remember that conversation and and tom uh don't shred home came came across with a more ardent or uh idealistic statement that we need to open up these capabilities and we need to to try and take a step forward and i think that both of those things are true in retrospect that they don't really conflict anymore we we did set ourselves up for disappointment because we apparently weren't ready to really do the kind of aggressive policy changes that we needed to to rid ourselves of the bane of this encampment policy that we currently have and so i guess what i'm what i'm asking for as you deliberate the new emergency proclamation is that you do more than just as what is required to acquire the uh the so-called heap funding from the state but in addition that we think through mechanically what it is that we're going to do when we issue this emergency proclamation so that we can end this horrendous nightmare that is out there on apollo and in the follow on to that and on the joe rodotta trail every night that my friends are given a place to lay their head legally now we are converging legalistically toward this solution we will all be forced to do this our children will look back on this time and rue the policies that we have today the future is legal homes for people and that by definition means that public land must be made available in some way shape or form and so i hope that this time that councilman Sawyer's critique last time is not applicable that we actually do it conscientiously and with a mind towards what that emergency proclamation will buy us in the way of housing thank you thank you scott merlin and you'll be followed by thomas ells it is gutless to extend the contract of police oversight when it isn't really oversight when there's so little transparency and when there's little to no accountability to the public so if you're going to extend it and do so by adding some requirements for transparency and accountability it is hypocritical to be pulling people's rvs away as soon as you get the capacity you're not doing it now because of any humanitarian concern you're not doing it because you don't have the towing capacity and as soon as you have that towing capacity out they go you're taking people's homes you're going to destroy their homes you're looking to destroy the homes of people living in the huts absolutely hypocritical to be extending an emergency that's due to people losing their homes in the fire an extended emergency that's due to people losing their homes for economic reasons and other reasons while you're also destroying homes and making people homeless some of those folks don't have houses but they sure as heck have homes it is cowardly for you not to allow a slideshow to be shown by people who are working in the heart of this who have the real solutions and who can show the real problems that you're not showing but most of all this process right here is an absolute farce because nothing we say makes any difference to you people nothing nothing we have ever said has changed your policies so mostly i'm talking to the other people here in this room you need to go to your communities you need to raise hell and you need to raise awareness and we need to build solutions that are independent of these people who have no accountability and no interest in our real communities and the suffering that's out there on the street that they're perpetuating and exacerbating not fixing people who are most the most marginalized need to stay together in their communities they need stable communities that is housing first stable communities with their friends with their family with their support with some shelter with whatever shelter we can find them and if that shelter doesn't quite meet up to code well it's still better than where they're going to kick them because it doesn't follow up to code out there on the street cold alone subject to the violence of the police and anyone who wanders by hungry afraid thank you merlin thomas ells and you'll be followed by michael to tone well i want to again thank you uh we do have these on consent which is the extension of the proclamation of homeless emergency um reaching back to to the chat program and everything it uh like scott said um maybe it was a premature i don't i don't think so um i want to i'll come back to that i just want to talk really quick about the ballards in the in the square is that um about 19 between 1968 and 1972 uh there was an accident on beaver street someone rode at about 70 miles an hour straight through town and landed on neil drive on the house at the point of neil drive at about 70 and they didn't survive pipe ballards wouldn't have done anything to stop any of that you need to actually use a k-rail or some other things right at that location shouldn't cost six hundred thousand dollars there's no way that should cost six hundred thousand dollars um but it is a good idea to prevent that kind of thing it's already happened in town um with regard to the um homeless emergency and proclamation that needs to be extended thank you um there are codes that particularly regarding the huts there is a the state planning code has exemptions for shelters those are shelters as clearly when when merlin speaks of a shelter uh shelters are are um uh specifically exempted from the code they're specifically exempted from uh becoming um um infeasible so it's it's right in the state planning code it's required you cannot make them infeasible by any implementation of any codes existing or new it's not legal so i want to leave that at that point um and pick that up later on thank you thank you thomas michael titone um please stop please stop towing people's vehicles out on apollo way it is costing people thousands of dollars that they don't have um it's taking away people are losing their vehicles um a lot of people the people that i've worked with they've lost their vehicles um there's no way they can get the vehicles back so um and it's it's just there's just so many barriers um sorry um so you know and it's criminalizing homelessness because the the reason many people do not have their vehicles registered is because they can't afford it and they can't afford it they're homeless so what are we doing we're going to tow your vehicle i mean basically like the that is taking away their home all of their possessions and there's really like no other reason that it's happening that people can't really afford to keep their vehicle registered and there's no place where they can go where they're not going to get towed so um i please stop doing it um you know we've heard from us a lot of times catherine jerk was going to present today but she had a slideshow she can't use it because we still can't use the projector because there was a peaceful protest here back in april and yeah it was too much so um you know the other thing we are we're i think we do need to talk to each other and talk to our neighborhoods and talk to our communities it's something that we're starting to do and we're learning that a lot of people are open to having uh sanctioned places for people to go and you know these these aren't uh these are within their own community not in someone else's community and i think that's that's something that's very powerful and we need to work on that and to show that this is not some sort of crazy fringe thing that only a couple of people are supporting a lot of people see the problems that are happening in their parks and their local communities and they realize that the solution is to give people a place to go with services and then we won't have to deal with the effects of all of that and the people who are suffering because they don't have a place to go and they're being harassed by the police every night actually will have a place to put their things and they don't have to worry about getting arrested or being criminalized because they can't afford any place to go um it's not crazy for people we have to we have to do it ourselves though because we've been presenting at city council meetings for years and nothing's nothing's come out of that we need to start actually doing things ourselves um as a community and um i encourage everyone in the audience here to to think about that and look out for any a local initiative start your own to to find other people who are supportive of having a homeless camp and within their own community it's a really powerful thing um please thank you thank you michael council i'm gonna bring this back are there any other questions on items 13.1 or 13.3 through 13.9 no council member tidbits all right i move items 13.1 13.3 13.4 13.5 13.6 13.7 .8 and .9 and wait for the reading of the text your votes for that passes with six ayes we'll go to 13.2 vice mayor rogers members of council this project implements repairs to garage nine that were recommended in a condition assessment report by wester walker restoration consultants the repairs include a replacement of the concrete wear surface on the top level of the garage other work includes selective concrete repair crack ceiling and waterproofing the repairs being made will protect structural components and extend the service life of the garage the council approved an appropriation of $1,723,644 in fiscal year 2016-17 for the project the project was advertised on july 3rd 2018 and bids were received on july 31st a total of two bids were received ranging from $2,180,095 to $3,012,727 the low bid was 16% over the engineer's estimate the low bidder ashram construction and restoration possesses a valid contractor's license of the required class as verified by the state contractor's board construction is anticipated to begin in october the length of the contract is 170 working days the construction work will be phased to minimize impact to garage patrons and the public participation plan has been approved by the public works marketing and outreach coordinator additional funds are required to complete the project due to increase construction costs it is recommended by the transportation and public works department and finance department that the council by resolution award construction contract c0 1823 city of san aroza parking garage 9 2017 repairs in the amount of $2,180,095 to the lowest responsible bidder ashram construction and restoration incorporated of santa claire california approve a 10 contract contingency and authorize a total contract amount of $2,398,104.50 by resolution approve a fiscal year 2018-19 budget allocation of $706,569 to key 45029 garage 9 repairs from the parking fund and with that I'd be happy to answer any questions the council may have thank you so much council questions councilmember combs thank you and thank you for allowing me to pull this item and have this conversation what happens if we wait one year on this if we don't do it this year it doesn't have to be it doesn't have to be done this year it has been in our asset management plan for the last 10 years so we are we have it is time for us to do this to extend the useful life of the garage it's not the structure is not going to be structurally unsound if we were to wait a year it's when it came through in the timeline of our of our asset management plan I wouldn't recommend postponing that's for several years without doing some sort of repair work to keep water from getting into the structure that's the main thing that is necessary to extend the life of garages and so you want to keep the so there's other things we could do that would be less expensive that would extend the life of the garage for a shorter period of time I just want to let you know where I'm going in my in my head trying to figure out we have an idea that we're going to intensively build housing downtown and it concerns me to make a decision to spend two million dollars roughly before we know if we have the housing bond and before we know if this site might be considered as a site for example to build the parking garage maybe even be fear so that we could put housing above it or some combination thereof which is why I'm wondering if we couldn't wait a year and what I'm hearing you say is that it might be possible to do something that is going to protect it until we know for sure if we have resources that may become that this may become something more than just a traditional parking garage so just to clarify that is an option but it will be a time-consuming option so we have plans all prepared to do this work so we can change course we can go back to our engineer and have them do new plans for a scaled-back version that will get us you know a few more years we can definitely do that but I would say you know that'll that'll take a year before we're back here with another bid and doing the work but it's definitely an option I just don't didn't want you to think that we could do it tomorrow no I thank you I didn't I didn't think it was instant that just why my first question was can we wait one year which would give us time to sort of make sure that this is the plan for this site I and I don't know what my colleagues are are thinking I would be interested in hearing that I'm very hesitant at this time with I appreciate that this is specifically parking fund funds but I'm also aware that we could use parking fund funds to do the parking under housing so I'd like to see us leaning that way more and I'm I'm eager to hear what my colleagues think council member Tibbets thanks vice mayor yeah I'd like to I think councilwoman combs is right on point with this with the housing bond potentially being decided in November that could free up resources also I think I tried to compare this to the opportunity side sheet the PED did not long ago and I think this is currently one of the opportunity sites please do correct me if I'm wrong though and so when we're when we're envisioning that as the space I think it would be prudent to probably wait a couple of years and if the time comes where you feel that we're impacting the structural integrity of the parking garage or creating deferred maintenance to the point where the cost become seemingly insurmountable then potentially looking at the downscaled engineering or I don't know if you slurry seal for water or what avenues you take to keep it water tight it's important to doing that but it does seem like to me like these buildings are in a bit of transition or could be at this point and potentially saving this money in your parking fund for any future construction down there as part of a larger development seems prudent council member Sawyer right thank you thank you vice mayor I would like some clarification on the opportunity sites it's my understanding that the surface lots were targeted for opportunities that because all of the city is the largest landlord downtown I think all of our assets are being considered as future opportunities but I am thank you Mr. Gu and I'd like to know the this particular site and the demolition of a four or five story parking garage would not be a small consideration yeah thank you the planning economic development department and parking I've been talking about this for quite a bit we've looked at all the parking assets when the council gave authorization look at assets to determine which ones were the most viable which ones are the best opportunity sites and where to focus efforts this this parking garage did not rank well it's it's a it's a newer garage it's in good it's in decent shape estimates are that it costs about 40 000 a spot to replace park a parking spot so when you take that money away and then replace it it makes billion new homes on top very infeasible and so we did talk to developers to see what the potential of that site is and we didn't get good response at all we are looking at the top opportunity sites for parking lot lots are Ross and B which we're currently negotiating the parking garage at third and D that one definitely that's going to need some investment it's one of our older garages in town so we're focusing on that one next it's probably the best opportunity site for redevelopment with parking replaced and then also surface other surface parking lots we're in the early stages of looking at what other surface parking lots do we have that we can before we put money into them can we leverage those and build put that money towards replacing the parking with housing above it and so that's actively going on this this site we did work together on to determine this was not a priority site it probably would not be feasible any time in the near future based on the demand of that parking and the cost to replace that parking council member spot on so if i could just ask the same question different way as my understanding we did the rfi request for information was this site included in that or are you telling me it was not included in that this site was not included in the rfi for the p3 conversation which included this site the across the street the buildings cross street and the surface parking lot across from the post office those were the ones included great thank you and then came from the parking perspective and trying to compare this to the street you know the pcp pavement condition index the longer you wait the greater it cost to rebuild where we can you put it into a parking lot terminology comparing it to the streets if we don't do it now at what point are the costs gonna cost a heck of a lot more to do i'm sorry but i can't do that i wouldn't want to miss um represent anything i can certainly have a conversation with our engineer about that but i i don't wouldn't be able to do that for you right so what i'm saying though it's so it's not a safety concern at this point for this parking no i i did talk with our engineer about if there was a scaled back version of a repair that we could do to extend the life very similar to what we did to the third street garage a couple years back at that time it was also recommended to replace the top deck of that that one because of its age and because of knowing that it was considered a higher priority opportunity site same thing we said is there something we can do to extend the life and give us buy us more time and so it brought the costs down and it bought us a little bit of time and so i talked to the engineer about this and we could definitely do the same thing here but as far as giving you a you know a ranking i i couldn't do that off the top of my head okay thanks i have council member comes thank you so if we were to spend the parking resources on this one what would be left to provide for example if we were to do the white house site and we were to assist in funding a project's parking underneath that site um i'm i guess i'm talking opportunity cost where if we're putting money here instead of the sort of quick scaled back version here um that's going to take money away that we could be putting at another site to get the parking underneath some housing um can you tell me how much is left in the account after we do this so the the parking fund right now has approximately 10 million in reserves but i would like to caution you that the parking program has more than 10 million dollars worth of work that needs to be done to extend the life of all of its assets so you know if you're talking say two million here and that leaves you with eight million we've already looked out 10 years of where projects where that those funds are intended to go so it while i know it sounds like a lot of money it's also very expensive to to manage these assets and to extend their life if just because i don't know what does it cost to remove a parking garage because if if we decided we wanted to make this a more prime opportunity site one of the ways to stimulate development on the site would be to take care of demolition on the site um if we wanted to demo the site can we use the parking funds for that i i believe you could use parking funds to demo it assuming you're going to be replacing the parking but as far as the cost to do that i nobody was yet okay thank you mr gillian has there been any interest in building housing on this particular site and i ask because i've had somebody reach out to me saying that they think that there might have been um i've had conversations with quite a few people um i think people are looking at every asset we have um when we start looking into it and when we talk about replacing the parking the conversation gets very different um because again it's very expensive to replace that parking structure um like i said the the estimates we're hearing are 40 and that might even be conservative 40 000 per spot to build that back and so it doesn't by the time we get our parking back the parking district gets its parking back because that parking is used to actually facilitate and allow the other development to happen uh i don't think we want to lose that that asset um that asset will help us with a nighttime parking potentially if we build housing around that area it could obviously is helping with the state building the federal building other businesses in the area um so we i think one thing that we are trying to do is take a real creative look at the parking structures how are we using them are they are if they're empty at night can we start to um have housing have people that live in downtown utilize those at off peak time so that's something that we're talking with and looking at creative solutions for so um it's a long way to answer your question when we start talking about all the the needs that we have for that parking um the discussion shifts more to surface slots and the the garages that are much dire shape that we're going to have to put a lot of work into that we'd rather tear it down and start over um and and this is not one of those great thank you come on sir council member tidbits your motion if duane is as we've discussed uh all of the consent items are done at the same time so and i can talk to you after the meeting council member tidbits so i move item 13.2 of the council and wave for the reading of the text is there any other discussion council go ahead one more question as part of the general plan conversation will we be targeting which lots we want to maintain as downtown lots permanently like in 30 for 30 years and would this be one of those lots i think to answer your question will the looking at those lots in the specific plan update be part of the project absolute i think we're going to look at every city own parcel what we think can be used in the future including this one here but and what is our time frame for that conversation pretty quick so one of the consent items that you just awarded was the grant to start that process the rfps on the street now we knew we were trying to run these in parallel to keep it moving and so the conversation hopefully will happen over the next few months when we start start getting people i will repeat that i hope that my colleagues will consider waiting for one year while we have that fuller conversation about which lots will be prioritized before we spend a couple million dollars right council your votes and that will fail with three i and three no council members tidbits combs and myself voting no council i'll entertain a second motion so if i would like to move that staff bring back the temporary repair or the smaller scale repair and wait a year to bring the fuller repair back after we've had an opportunity to have the conversation within the specific plan and i'll second that motion council your votes that will pass with five i's with councilmember soyer voting no we will move on to public comment on non-agenda items idela i apologize gijri followed by tim gija and again i apologize for butchering names good afternoon my name's idela gijri i've written i've oh i'm sorry you could also raise that up if you need to okay thanks written to all of you hoping that maybe you'll you would have time to review what i'm asking you i live at 536 belvia avenue i my home is in the unincorporated area of the county and out of the urban boundary some time ago i had to sign my uh my development rights to the city of santa rosa to get a utility certificate i had no other choice no other options being medically handicapped and with small children dependent on the home i agreed to lafko and the city of santa rosa's demand of signing my rights over to the city of santa rosa in 2016 california state assembly approved senator white koski's proposal senate bill 1069 to eliminate restrictions and excess fees that discourage building accessory dwelling units in california in september of 2017 governor brown signed into state law senate bill 1069 giving all california property owners the right of a second dwelling and the right to have permits ministerially approved among other things in senate bill 1069 there's a guarantee under section five that states that no other policy ordinance or regulation shall be reasoned to deny a second dwelling under california health and safety code a manufactured dwelling is also allowed in 2017 i went to the community development department to submit an application to connect a HUD approved to the existing sewer line in my property speaking with andrew cook and shelly allen i couldn't submit an application because of the 2002 restrictions the formal determination by the city department points out no development without annexation annexation costs start at $18,000 however at this time annexation is unnecessary i don't want to develop the five acres i only want to add an addition if in the future annexation is proposed by administrative action i would never oppose it in 2018 county zoning laws and the laws of the state of california supports my legal right of a second dwelling and its guarantee under section five makes the 2002 declaration of restrictions a moot point no longer legal or binding upon myself my uh myself and dependents or anyone next in line thank you adela i need you to please wrap i'm sorry i'm asking you to allow me to hook up to that sewer line that's on my property a granny unit great thank you so much adela thank you tim apatiz guija followed by gregory furan good evening my name is tim giga and um we're urging the council to help us help ourselves imagine this scenario every night when you leave this building you get in your car you drive home and you get to enjoy that feeling of comfort and security that coming home each night brings now imagine that every 30 to 90 days and in most cases every 72 hours that your residents comfort and security is uprooted generally at three in the morning and you personally have to pay for this unexpected and unplanned force move on a fixed income disability insurance or general assistance then add to that the cost of scouting around for another space to find another comfort zone the homeless do this routinely with every sweep that this city imposes with no safe place to go mature adults young working adults widows single parents physically handicapped tribes and physically handicapped tribes and families are all required to do this on a regular basis and these locations are not allowed any basic human services like restrooms dumpsters or more humanely mental rest which is paramount to human health and well-being homeless people are the people who by no fault of their own fall through the crack we are the impact of your decisions and indecisions in this room and that crack opened up very wide during the bush two great recession of 2008 until 2016 construction drives any every economy of a recession in that time of eight years from 28 to 2016 there was little to no construction jobs no supporting peripheral jobs created every temp agency in town had shut down for lack of jobs to offer i heard recently that there were about 4 000 homes built in sonoma county in 10 years that's a huge problem and it's the same problem that every one of us here are suffering today now try to remember just before the recession hit that older people like me the baby boomers who had worked hard all their lives invested well and were set to retire and lost all of their life savings their home retirement accounts because of medical expenses predicated on pre existing conditions then came the mortgage meltdown the fraud of benchmark lending the wall street and the banking industry's bailouts that unfortunately do millions of americans our neighbors and veterans alike are their hard-earned dollars and sweat equity america bailed out the banks and in return for our kindness they threw every one of us under the bus at this time in 2010 the state shuttered most of its mental health facilities residential homes for the intellectually disabled the physically handicapped the addicts and the vets alike the state simultaneously raised the fees dmv state parks and the requirements thank you sir thank you greg ferron followed by thomas els gregory ferron homeless action thank you tim there's a lot of stories that you're hearing and you'll continue to hear about hard work by members of the community three years ago a large group of community members homeless and others had an annual meeting at the task force on the homeless and we raised eight thousand dollars to try to do something for the homeless we built 10 homeless huts and we knew at the time they were probably not going to be building code uh or uh legal they were probably going to be put on some place it probably didn't have its zone for that but we did it because we felt the need and we wanted to respond we did our best job to put together some really terrific structures you all have probably seen most of them one of the best guys in this community a guy named dav burto agreed to put him on his property private property we went to chapter look for support he didn't give it we went to the community we got some support and they've housed people ever since but lately you and the rest of the sort of establishment who want to adhere to a standard that is deteriorating you've heard today that the state is saying you ought to think about something more creative and we're all trying to help you do that but in the meantime this saturday or sunday when i'd rather be at the sesquitennial or i'd rather be out at the uh challenger way helping clean up and helping them build self-governance and do what they want to do i'm going to have to rally all of my friends to take them down dav burto has been frightened into submission until you figure out a way of delaying it i'm going to be stuck and the rest of the community is going to be stuck with dismantling the homes of people and that's sad to me we have done our best we are continuing to do our best and we want you as a partner and this doesn't show it at all please i ask you to do two things help delay this if you can and secondly if you can't come on out and help me move them we need your help i can go rent trucks i can get some people or friends of mine but it's not enough we took three or four months to put those into his property now over the weekend we're going to have to take them all out come on have a heart thank you gregory comments else and he'll be followed by otamaji well i do thank you for allowing our comments this is about the huts abatement and arrest or potential arrests at a pile away there were arrests here in the chamber not long ago at that time they seemed without merit their complaint was about the camp cleanup pilot project under the six street bridge and behind the dollar tree you arrested six people here who you believe violated your standards state law requires you to plan housing for all economic demographics on mcbride lane are an economic demographic and you're in violation of state law you should be under arrest here they are except power and authority they're not going to arrest you but you are in violation of state law it's for the people of every economic demographic so the huts are specifically exempted from the planning code regarding shelters and those those trailers are they any different those are basic primary shelters those are their houses how can they be arrested how can they be asked to move now we're begging you to find other locations there are plenty of other locations the city housing authority excuse me i'm pointing to the wrong david at this moment city housing authority is in contract apparently with the county to take over the old county water authority property on college avenue so there's plenty there's plenty of properties represents the people whom you are violating this planning law as such you should be arrested and for that matter other equally innocent people those people on a polyway the huts they could be arrested mr. burdo himself or myself just pick any innocent person and arrest him or look to yourselves please because these are legal they are under the state law it's the implementation which is not legal because they cannot be conditioned in a way to make them infeasible thank you thomas i apologize for the pronunciation that's not pronounceable um i i actually represent some of the leadership at a polyway and i wanted to come with for some clarification so i i applaud merlin for saying they're houseless but not homeless i wanted to clarify what the word the difference is between the two words the word home actually comes with the word and which mean tent when you knock down people's tents and you call it not a house or not a home you call them homeless this actually stems back to our hatred of native americans and i'm here to inform you that 92 percent of the people there claim to be native american partially this is probably an instinct that's what i studied in college genetic behavior but 68 other countries have already freed their tent dwellers finland norway denmark sweden china mongolia russia everywhere in the middle east all israel you know we spent 500 billion dollars freeing the Kurds in iraq they're free and recently sady arabia and canada they are the same group of people are in one genetic group and these people are not going to ever stop the reason why you can't get rid of your homeless people is because they don't go anywhere you keep feeding them there's more they don't go anywhere so i've encouraged them to incorporate a tribe they're actually of two specific tribes 90 of them are in one tribe specifically but they are getting assistance over the it'll take longer than your two-week deadline to get them assistance through native civil rights organizations the united nations are aware of this and i made a whole bunch of other native organizations aware of this and sundance is already filming there so i wanted to make you guys aware of the fact that these people are already aware that that word homeless means that but they're also aware that calvic charities has been their enemy for 300 years almost all these natives that that are there their parents grew up in the native internment camps so they don't want to go into calvic charities that's what they're telling me every single person i've talked to every single person at least seven times they're not going in there because those people like were abusing their parents i grew up next to a sign that says here killed calvic charities 1900 children that's the way i grew up right next to a sign that said that's like right outside my door so nobody wants to go into a place that's their enemy and that's really not a homeless problem more like they hate calvic charities problem i mean i'm not having i'm not saying anything bad about them this is a historical issue with these people and that they a lot of them are saying that they prefer their tents and they're after 200 years of trying to get the sami and finland norway and denmark into forced housing and semen mongolian china they still they still live in their tents now they just make room and they cover over the pipelines and they they block the freeway they block traffic to protect their saami but not the united states the very last country in which these people live they're not protected they're not protected so what you guys are doing to bust them out in the middle of the month when you know they get their money at the beginning of the month constitutes constitutes cruel and unusual punishment to them because they'll be out of money they'll pay all their bills their bills are going to autopay and then they'll have no money and then they'll be kicked out in the middle of the month so they can't get their vehicles back which is where their grandma's ashes are and their great grandparents jewelry those are homes because that word means attends you know thank you and could you and could you please pronounce your name for me could you just pronounce your name for me okay okay great thank you so much duane dewitt followed by michelle trample oh my name is duane dewitt i'm from roseland tonight i had wanted to show you a short video but the city staff said it wouldn't be allowed and i thought there's a process going on here where you're excluding information that helps the public i believe that taking away the overhead projector and putting other restrictions on the ability of the public to give you information is counterproductive to a democratic approach i am really concerned because once again we plead poverty to the people that need some things and then say we're going to spend some money on some big things that may not be needed tonight i brought a book a magazine it's almost 20 years old it's a sonoma business magazine with ken blackman the city manager you'd be able to see it better if we had the projector it talks about city bucks how to save santa rosa 10 million dollars because back then we were still looking at how we could save money the editor james dunn wrote after all the government is our tool of self-governance it runs on our money contributed through taxes and fees and so i wanted to point out that recently the city got some taxpayers money from the sonoma county agricultural preservation and open space district which is taxpayers money from the county anyone that spends on sales tax and bought two more houses over in roseland so now the taxpayers own four houses in roseland that are empty by decree of the city they're boarded up evicted a person out of one of them she's now technically homeless so we have to find a way to match the rhetoric that we talk about here to the actions that the city staff actually takes i find it difficult to be supportive of a process in which you keep houses empty while veterans who've served this country are out there tonight homeless i've asked in the past that we be able to use these homes specifically in roseland for some veterans to be there to be caretakers of the land that you've basically been given by the taxpayers and we volunteer to clean up so i ask you once again utilize the housing that you have to help the veterans during these difficult times don't tear anything down except garages we don't need places for cars to sleep we need housing thank you joanne michelle tremble michelle kathryn jurick she's gone bob hanson and he'll be followed by adrian lobby thank you sir it's mr. hanson's turn good afternoon everybody bob hanson that retired carpenter too many to go our city council make great strides in an eliminating roundup being sprayed on our streets our parks and our schools thank you this is city rose this is my 11-year-old granddaughter abducted by order of our family court judge instead of attending meadow school in petaluma surrounded by our friends and family she's sitting in holister california surrounded by people she does not know a father she ran from for the last year and a half with just cause drinking and driving with the kids verbal abuse we have a problem in this city council in this city in this county and the problem is our family court service state controlled does not protect our kids their focus is on keeping these kids in this system until they're 14 grandparents and children under 12 have no legal rights in our family court system no legal rights my granddaughter was abducted by order of a family court judge judge boy this has been going on for years six months into this process this ordeal with two mediation reports cautioning the court on her dad's anger judge boy ordered my daughter to release custody of my then seven-year-old granddaughter in a parking mall in burling game to a man using appeal boxes as legal address we refused the next year saty spent every other weekend plus that summer in holister california with her dad we have never refused access to her father this is a man who abandoned her for the first six years six and a half years of her life never refused access my granddaughter is now sitting in holister california not attending school at meadow school like she has for six years surrounded by people she doesn't know judge boyd issued a 90-day custody coupled with a 90-day no contact order for this little girl thank you mr. hanson adrian lobby so you've all heard the saying two steps forward one step back in the next couple weeks we are going 56 steps back in the last couple weeks we have had proclamations and resolutions from the human rights commission and from the aclu talking about the human rights violations in how we treat homeless people and encouraging you and the county government to set up some kind of sanction encampments some kind of small villages safe parking something to get people out of this terrible condition instead we have six huts where people have been sleeping successfully without any problem for a year and a half suddenly they're going to have to be gone within a week take your stuff sorry we don't know where you can go well maybe there's a bed at sam jones for you that's 200 people in a building where most people don't have privacy to change their clothes that is not acceptable and who are those six people four of them are people of color four of them have jobs four of them are employed and four of them were in this chamber today patiently listening hoping that they would have a chance to tell you what's going on for them and we have the rv camp the enormous cost just to tow these rvs away we're going to tow people's homes there are 70 to 90 people there there are 50 people who are working with us in a program to get their vehicle legalized and we do not have time to do that they need to get the correct title they need to get smog they need to have minor repairs they need to go through registration some of them need their dmv license all of it is doable and we're doing it we're working on about three people this week today and tomorrow but they are going to scatter and some of those houses those mobile homes on wheels are going to be towed away in the last two days two of them have lost their cars one woman's car she was living in her car is now at creams every day $55 more her friends are trying to raise the money every day $55 more for $500 somebody's going to lose their home their car and in a week or two we're going to have all of these people losing their homes there are v's their trailers costs of doing it are immeasurable both in human cost and in the financial costs thank you adrian thank you sir and we'll move on to item 15.1 miss hartado item 15.1 report approve professional services agreement for general banking services with jp morgan chase bank of north america and presenting is chuck mcbride our chief financial officer thank you honorable vice mayor and members of the council we're here tonight to ask you to approve a ps a with jp morgan chase for banking services for a five-year period so currently the city contracts for several financial services for our comprehensive banking services and these include several things what we call general banking services which we're talking about tonight and those are things like deposit services disbursement services reporting services uh and in our rfp we broke um we broke everything out into six major service groups and uh and we asked um we asked uh proposers to um to cost out providing institutional custody which is keeping our investments uh uh custody of our investments merchant card processing so our customers who use visas and other purchasing cards and procurement cards for the city um so for the for these services since 2002 with general banking services um for 16 years we've been with well as bar go bank so recently last october uh we went out for an rfp to to look at our comprehensive banking services and to see if there were other vendors out there that could could do the service force uh in a more efficient manner um to do this we engaged pfm asset management llc to help us to develop that rfp uh and to evaluate the proposal so you can imagine that especially when the proposals come back the the pricing that we receive from the banks is is very complicated so so we need someone to help us to evaluate those and make sure that we're comparing apples to apples uh we also had pfm help us with developing the rfp and we issued it with those six major uh service groups that we talked about so that individual banks could propose on different areas they could propose on merchant merchant card services but not general banking if they didn't have the ability to to do that kind of a service um we made significant outreach we actually notified 21 uh banks of our of our process uh we also notified um five local banks within that 21 to try to maximize uh participation by the local banks um out of that we got eight total proposals that spanned all of those six different service uh groups that i referred to earlier five proposals came in for general banking services which we're talking about tonight um we did have one local bank within that group however uh based on the quantitative and qualitative uh matrix that we developed with pfm um they they were not highly competitive uh so jp morgan chase submitted a proposal that scored the highest um they were also uh the lowest cost for general banking services and um they also demonstrated a robust online platform which is important now and uh as i mentioned earlier they had the lowest fee of all the banks they're proposed so then we turn to the fiscal analysis general banking fees under this contract will be about 250 000 over the five-year contract term you'll see that the uh that the psa that was put before you has a not to exceed amount of 300 000 which gives us just a little bit of latitude over five years if we have unforeseen costs however we do have a savings of 28 000 per year about 140 000 over the five years the contract term to the general fund for general banking services uh jp morgan chase has also provided us with the 60 000 transition dollar credit so uh if you'll keep in mind that um the contract with wells fargo expired in june and we extended that until december so there's going to be a little bit of overlap with wells fargo and jp morgan chase part of that 60 000 can also be used if we have to transition any equipment um like check check imaging equipment things like that uh we can use the 60 000 credit towards that also so the recommendation by the finance department is that uh council approve a five-year professional service agreement with jp morgan chase uh as i mentioned amount not to exceed 300 000 at this time we can take questions from the council i'm joined by uh by alan alton my deputy who's uh who has uh wed this process uh since last october um and we also have uh have bevelly here uh from jp morgan chase she's in government banking uh to answering questions you may have specific to jp morgan thank you mr mcbride uh and i'll go ahead i'll start i know that this item has come through the long-term financial policy and audit committee uh it has come in connection with a an ongoing conversation about a city sponsored bank uh can you give us a little bit of an update and i can i see some folks in the audience i'm sure we'll hammer on this point as well can you give us an update on where this city is in that process and how that lines up with this potential contract that's before us today yes vice mayor i can give you some more of an update we've been following very closely um the experience of oakland and uh just in the last month i think august 20th their um uh the city administrator uh put out a a agenda bill to the city council uh they'd received back a um feasibility analysis from global investment company who was picked to to do the feasibility analysis on that uh myself and alan are still picking our way through it's a pretty extensive report um uh so we're we're trying to look at that to see what the feasibility would be for oakland since they're they're um a larger city than us and their experience would probably be somewhat applicable to us um so that's where we are right now the city manager has authorized us if we need to uh to go out for professional service agreement and do our own feasibility study but we'd kind of like to see um uh if it's even worth pursuing that i'd like to like to look at what uh what oakland's outcome is just kind of glancing over the first 10 pages of the document today it looked like there are um there are sizable obstacles to a municipality doing a public bank it looks like it's uh and again i'm just kind of pre-shadowing this just based on what i read from from the oakland city administrator but um it looks like there's some pretty heavy uh capital requirements for that so we would have to really um examine that see if it was even feasible for us could you please provide the council with that feasibility report as well for us to to begin to pick through absolutely and make it public there you go thomas make a skip follow-up on that go ahead thank you i've heard that san francisco is doing a similar and i wondered if you were also checking the san francisco as well as the oakland uh yes council member comes we're watching san francisco and los angeles and some other states that are trying this also when you provide information about oakland if san francisco and la information is available can you share that also i will if it's available thank you great council member tidbits thank you vice mayor so i have a question for you and this may actually be more of a question for al inside the opportunity to serve on the committee reviewing these with allen and i one of the questions that i had and i can't remember because i did see the pfm matrix early on but what was please give this council an idea of what the cost differential was between the local provider exchange bank and jp morgan chase so exchange bank um their pricing came in uh between 88 thousand 85 000 and jp morgan was between 40 000 and 52 000 so we're talking a difference of 40 000 versus investing locally was there an analysis on the pfm matrix about local investment no not a local investment there probably should have been um the other question i had is and this was a big sticking point for me when i was on the committee is three years versus five years and the reason being we are having a conversation about a public bank in san rosa uh oakland i actually was talking with council member kaplan and oakland recently they have finished the the first step and they're looking for people to buy into their what they're calling the business plan it's synonymous with the feasibility study i think we ought to be doing that but when we look at this process i think this is um very similar if not identical to the conversation this council had back in 2011 about sonoma clean power uh we were asked to break away from something that was very traditional very secure very well understood i.e the incumbent utility pg and e and branch out and give ourselves local control over power use uh the council at the time deliberated at length about that it was a very difficult decision for them to make but ultimately they did it they established sonoma clean power from the point of establishing the committee in 2011 to 2013 and in about two and a half years and now we have one of the most successful power programs in the state of california that's led to the creation of dozens of others and so my long-winded question to you is why did we go back to five years is that the provider unwilling to do three years councilmember tibbetz um no it wasn't a it wasn't a matter of the uh provider not being able to do a three-year contract it was more along the lines of of the amount of time that it took us to just go through this process here and knowing that that getting through any type of if we if we were looking toward a public bank option to go through the uh the feasibility analysis and then if that feasibility analysis pointed us in the direction to do that to then set up that type of a bank to be able to do that in a three-year period wouldn't be possible so a five-year contract uh gave us will give us the opportunity to uh uh to do studies where we're needed and and if that leads us down a path to at least start moving toward that so again it's a five-year term and then we have some options after it that provide us that flexibility but that seemed to be a a reasonable um way to go with that so i don't want to depreciate the amount of work that went into this i received one of those boxes with all the binders of proposals and so i know that what you did was incredible work um but i'm i'm just going to have difficulty supporting that's any a five-year plan and um and i am disappointed that 40 000 was the difference between investing locally versus uh internationally so in and to be clear on that it was it was more than just the dollars it was also um the services that uh that they were providing right that were that were less than what the other uh banks were willing to provide so again it just uh unfortunately it just wasn't a very competitive bid thanks alan i do any other questions duane do it you'll be followed by philip beard hello my name is duane duit i'm from roseland i appreciate the efforts that have been put forward and the amount of extra work but i'm supportive of a more untraditional approach i believe that though i have banked exchange bank and we want to do something local that the best process might be to go forward with what miss kaplan and oakland is trying to do and what others are trying to do in other cities and states and i say that because i've been to north dakota a lot i know about the state bank in north dakota and i know about approaches where you allow the community to have more of a voice in how the financing of its government operates can be more helpful i don't want to see this go forward to a large kind of nameless entity they have the name jp morgan chase yes but they're so big of a bureaucracy i don't think we're really going to know who's handling the affairs of san rosa whereas if you were to work with the people who've been advocating for a number of years now to try to get a public bank here in san rosa sonoma county maybe the bay area however you worked it with your joint powers agreement type of approach i believe we would all benefit more so i ask you tonight that you not go for something for five years and not even three years if you choose to say we're going to work with these people just do it year by year and during that time i believe the public banking approach will be more feasible in a less amount of time than we've been told tonight i don't think it's going to take five years to get that set up so i ask you to reconsider based on what mr tibitz has just also mentioned that it doesn't need to be five years long whatever you choose tonight i'm thinking one year no more than three years and please in your recommendations state that you support some sort of a public local banking approach rather than giving our money to wall street hasn't helped us so much in the past and it could come back to haunt us in a big way if we face what some say may be a cyclical recession perhaps coming our way soon maybe after the next election only a couple of months away when government type activities change at the national level thank you for your time thank you duane deborah Hammond followed by shelly browning deborah Hammond thank you for um taking my comments i think some of my other colleagues are going to speak to um the history of fraudulent practices that chase has invested in in the past um which is part of my concern but i'm going to focus my comments on their investment in fossil fuels according to a report put together by the rainforest action networks here a club the indigenous environment environmental network and three other organizations chase is among the top three banks financing the expansion of extreme fossil fuels fossil fuel development overall at a total of 26 billion over the past three years and they're among the top three specifically in tar sands ultra deep water oil and coal i have a table from that report and the summary of the report if that would be useful to you these investments are not only environmentally destructive contributing to the ravages of climate change that we have steam firsthand here in san rosa but they are financially risky as well which speaks to the fiduciary responsibility of the city financial advisors increasingly are warning that these investments risk becoming stranded assets fossil fuels are not performing as well as other sectors i've been working some with jane vossberg on fossil free california who's done excessive research um funds with fossil fuels are not performing as well as funds without fossil fuels um and over 800 institutions including the world bank are in the process of divesting from fossil fuels for a total of six trillion dollars um and i would like to put my concerns regarding chase into a larger context both globally and locally we're increasing instability environmentally politically and economically i think it's critical that we begin to lay the groundwork for greater local autonomy and in similar ways to the clean power initiative um and a key step in that direction would be the creation of a public bank um to that end i would like to ask you to reject this contract um ideally put out a new rfp for a more socially and environmentally responsible bank if that would be at all possible i was going to request that you limit the contract to three years alternatively um i appreciate some of the comments from the council and also from from dwayne um i i would also ask you that you move forward with the feasibility study and implementation plans i appreciate the the comments about some of the obstacles oh i'm almost done anyway i'll pass it over to the rest thank you so much shelly browning followed by judith eam good evening council community members um the city of oakland previously banked with jp morgan chase and is now moving to union bank at their june 5 city council meeting council member kaplan moved that the new contract with union bank be set for three years instead of the proposed five years by the finance department the motion passed unanimously oakland conducted a feasibility study for a public bank of oakland and the results of the study will be presented to the finance department on september 11th thus the reasoning by the council to limit the contract with union bank to three years as they hope to have their own bank within that amount of time also in june la's 14 member council unanimously voted to put a measure on the november 6 ballot to amend the city's charter allowing for the city to form a municipal public bank this measure will help la to retake control of their money and to invest in financing critical needs of their communities such as affordable housing infrastructure economic development and green energy the link staffed report attached with this agenda item states the reasons they're recommending jp morgan chase which in part reads as follows as a response to the october 2017 wildfires jp morgan through its local branches assisted customers with replacing bank items lost including debit cards safety deposit box keys and locks and they refunded any overdraft fees incurred as a result of the fires juxtaposed this with how the public bank of north dakota responded to the devastating fire and flood of gram forks in 1997 within two weeks of that disaster the bank established a disaster relief loan fund set aside 5 million to assist flood victims and set up additional credit lines of around 70 million dollars best of all mortgage holders and students who had loans with the bank of north dakota were granted a six-month moratorium on their monthly payments the friends of the public bank of santa rosa working group has drafted a proposed resolution for public bank of santa rosa on our website we currently have 33 organizations and 306 individuals who have endorsed this resolution we implore this council to do right with our public finances and reject the recommendation to sign a five-year contract with the self-confessed felonious jp morgan chase bank thus far this this city has continued to conduct business as usual to finance the needs of the city in the form of budget cuts increased tax measures and the issuing of costly bonds this is your moment to stand and do right by the city that you represent we call on you to move forward with the feasibility study for a public bank of santa rosa in order to economically empower the city with our money and stop giving away our public credit to the wall street banks thank you thank you selly judith i am followed by louis and daily judith i am here i wish to reiterate my colleagues um specifics in case it could possibly have been lost on one hand we have overdraft key fees being um let go on the other hand we have 70 million dollars put at the disposal of the people who this bank represents so this um con that decision to reach the moon to be actualized bank as you well know i'm glad to hear there's already awareness about this on the council and so i um charge you with making this happen asap i also in having heard um the people previous to this item speaking it reminds me the last time i was in this hall there was a great deal of testimony on behalf of the homeless situation and it was after that that the people sitting in those seats allocated seven million dollars for the square improvement and seven million dollars for the bond interest so this kind of thing is this is the buck literally stops with you folks the prmd i understand reports to you the police i think reports to you your own conscience and treatment of the homeless is is yours and we ask you to be kind and compassionate but i digress the money that is available for endless projects will rather go rather than into the deep pockets of those who are shareholders will go to the people of this county so make this bank happen and fund all the worthwhile things we need thank you thank you louan daily followed by thomas ells good evening city council members thank you i wanted to thank jack tibbetts and julie combs and and chris especially for their awareness and tom and everyone who's aware already of the movement that we're making and the progress we're making toward getting a public bank and for that for santa rosa and for that reason i would like you to ask you to reject this recommendation by staff for the five five year contract with wells fargo and i'm sure the gentleman here is a lovely man but i'd like to read a little bit uh that came out of this uh oakland oakland's study when they decided to go with union bank and it's i'm just going to read whereas on may 20th 2015 jp morgan chase and company agreed to plead guilty to felony charges for conspiring to manipulate the price of us dollars and euros exchanged in the foreign courage exchange spot market and whereas on may 20th 2015 jp morgan chase and company agreed to pay a criminal fine of 550 million dollars for illegally manipulating the foreign exchange market and whereas on may 20th 2015 the federal reserve announced that it was imposing a separate set of fines jp morgan and chase and company of 342 million for their illegal practices in the foreign exchange markets and whereas on march 9th 2016 the wall street journal reported that wall street banks had paid in total more than 100 billion in fines and penalties for mortgage related fraud and whereas jp morgan and chase criminal contact conduct and wrongful behavior should not be rewarded with future business dealings with the city of santa rosa and i i think that we can do better than dealing than rewarding fraudulent behavior we need to say that actions have consequences and we can look a little further afield for a more reputable bank if we have to put a new rfp out okay if not we can follow oakland if we're wanting to follow oakland they chose union bank i'm not sure if that would be a suitable choice for us but it might be but i don't think we should reward criminal behavior and i did a quick google search show that the cf whatever it is the consumer financial protection bureau rated jp morgan 15th number 15th in complaints per billion dollars done so they're on the top 20 of fraudulent criminal banks i don't see why our tax dollars my tax dollars everybody else is here's tax dollars your tax dollars should be going to reward them and i urge you to reject this proposal and fund something shorter with a better more reputable environmentally sound bank and do it on the short term while we get the public bank up and going thank you so much thomas else well again i want to thank you for looking into this um and allowing us to speak so if we go back i'm going to take you back a little bit in history of course uh so this is kind of a response as i understand to the wells fargo situation and so reevaluating the bank um wills fargo was a locally owned bank locally owned in sonoma county uh my grandfather's best friend herald boston uh went to work for the bank in 1919 that bank was uh american savings bank of petaluma and it bought wells fargo and changed his name to wells fargo he moved from petaluma and became manager of san rosa uh about 1945 and uh jim keegan senior and henry trioni came into bank in 1955 uh jim keegan senior was the manager and uh and then henry trioni was uh system manager and herald boston was moved to uh stockton and then he was made secretary of the bank so he was uh the centrally the uh uh chief operating officer of wells fargo he lived here well he lived in stockton once he moved to stockton but uh he operated in san francisco in stockton it was a locally owned bank that's why it was the bank here for san rosa for so many years that's why and henry trioni then eventually national um uh national mortgage forget the name of it right now sonoma national mortgage which became a national mortgage company and then he sold to wells fargo became the largest shareholder of wells fargo and he lived here he owned the bank and he lived here and that's why it was locally owned and and controlled it made sense lian fung is owned 50 by i'm gonna try to be as local as i can lian fung is a chinese company that's owned it's a factor they're owned 50 by jp morgan chase uh wisper soft mills was owned here and uh my uncle became the president and then the owner it was infeasible for them to compete against chinese goods and then they moved to north carolina and eventually they moved to china and had lian fung be their factor lian fung took over the factoring uh by hiring other people besides those that they hired for my uncle to make the exact same thing cheaper and eviscerated the entire business so that's lian fung owned 50 by jp morgan chase um so forgive me uh my main question is would they make you sign an agreement to hypothesize your assets and i believe they will and uh as as your bank the normally you would keep your liquid assets with them i think that was somewhere i'm not sure i thought it was 90 million dollars i'm not exactly sure somewhere between 10 and i don't know exactly what the liquid assets are uh but i remember seeing it and if they ask you to hypothesize those that's a that's a problem thank you so much all right i'm gonna bring it back to the council are there any additional questions all right councilmember oliver so i'm gonna uh excuse me councilmember soyer i'm gonna ask you to put a motion on the table so that we can begin discussion thank mr vice mayor so i'll introduce a resolution of the council the city senator roza approving an agreement with jp morgan chase bank in a san francisco california to provide general banking services and waive further reading second all right discussion from the council anyone councilmember columns i think this is a request for information from staff more than anything else um if we were to change this to a three year instead of a five year so that we have the opportunity to explore uh in a shorter period of time public banking options would that be possible and additionally while we're finding that answer uh if we were to keep the ball moving towards a public bank and do this faster than anticipated is there an ability for us to transition sooner than that five-year contract or does this five-year contract lock us in for five years absolutely that's what we're talking with the representative from from jp morgan it is as to the termination clause so we there is a a clause in the contract that allows either party to terminate the contract with a certain amount of notice i forget exactly how much it is uh um or what the period of of notice is but that's in there so so to answer the question if if it was three years we uh we could put in a notice to terminate and and go through with that if so i i wonder if the committee that met and discussed this could explain again uh how they made the decision to go with uh jp morgan chase instead of with exchange bank the i assume the committee did that um review i appreciate that there is a significant cost difference at least in the short run between the two um and i'm just wondering if you could explain why the decision was made not to go with the with the exchange bank any committee member was welcome to well they wouldn't require a change in the motion and if it's a question to the i was i'm just trying to understand take the answer on that one the the short answer for me is that when we looked at the evaluation from staff both in terms of the cost and in terms of the services that were provided and understanding that voting no on this contract ends up having us fall back into uh what we have had as a banking provider when i think many of us do want to pursue a city bank uh or at least uh figure out if it's going to be feasible in the short term this seemed like a good compromise in terms of getting the appropriate services for the appropriate cost for our city while we try something new and while we move away from an alternative that i think most of us find worse than where we were at that's what we're sorry i think you've you stated it well and and we do have an obligation with our to to um respond to a um a contract that saves the citizens um money and to to go with with a contract that costs more uh would be um i i think could be looked at um critically and i and i understand the philosophical questions but we have an obligation a fiscal obligation as well and i do think it's worth noting the uh the question that i asked mr. mcbride is a question that we did ask at the subcommittee level understanding that if we were to move forward faster uh than was anticipated with a city bank if it was deemed feasible that there is an opportunity for the council to eject from the the contract uh obviously subject to notice requirements and whatnot uh so that the five years versus the three years my personal belief is allow the five years knowing that we can get out at three years if we need to but let's allow staff the time to actually do what they what they need to do and i do a follow-up question then excuse me hold on one second let's go to the city attorney um just to mention i did um just pull up the agreement and it is a six month notice we have a right to terminate the agreement for convenience in other words for any reason um at any time by giving a written notice of termination uh not less than six months and are there any penalties associated with that or loss of benefits no there's city um this i have not reviewed the entirety of the agreement but under this provision it's simply that the that the city would pay the contract for contractor the bank for any services um uh already performed thank you that's member tibetz thank you vice mayor you know i i understand the our opportunity to leave for convenience to say but i am a little concerned that sue i mean we don't understand the full complexity of that contract and i did take a glance at it and i think there was about 85 pages of it i mean it was quite extensive um 180 toms telling me but i'm going to be voting no on this just because i'm really disappointed um i'm disappointed that the council doesn't have the pfm matrix in front of them i think that's important to to have is in the decision making process when i was serving on the committee i specifically called for three years um and that was not addressed um and we time and again this council has voted to make local preference a higher uh local excuse me local preference hiring um strengthened i mean i know that the long-term fiscal subcommittees made that made that a priority and so you know i i think that council member soyer is right we have a fiduciary obligation to our taxpayers not to go out for a service that is significantly larger than the lowest response of bidder but we also know and there's a litany of economic data that exists out there that says investing locally has tremendous uh returns on investment for the local community for loaning to businesses loaning on construction loans with this community needs so badly right now and in it so it's tough i know how much work went into it i actually do not think that if this is that draconian but i just i've got to vote no on it any other comments council so the motion with a second is to uh approve the professional services agreement for general banking services with jp morgan chase bank your votes council and that will pass four to two with council members tidbits and combs voting no thank you moving on we will go to item 16.1 council this is a public hearing on the community improvement grant applications appeals uh we will hear a presentation from staff then the applicant will have a five minute presentation following that we will disclose ex parte communications and take questions from the council before opening the public hearing thank you vice mayor so public hearing for community improving grant application appeals kalua barns our office of community engagement director will provide a presentation outlining the process in the background how we got here tonight and then the individual appealing the grant decisions i believe you will allow him some time to speak so i'll turn it over to kalua so joining me is um danielle runnhausen gardeno as well as sherry barnett who's actually the chair of the community advisory board i'll be doing the presentation in there my backup if i have questions that i can't answer so tonight we're actually here regarding a 2017 18 community improvement grant appeal and before we get into the appeal i just wanted for the benefit of the public who may not know the details the community advisory board has actually been around since the 2002 charter it's a 14 member board comprised of appointees two from each of the council members from seven areas that don't represent districts because the districts didn't exist at that time so it's a seven it's a 14 member board and they've been issuing grants since 2003 they um they've been housed out of the office of community engagement for the last two years and there's a cycle every year where there's grants that are actually awarded to community members the history of the program is from the inception to 2007-08 fiscal year the council actually gave the community advisory board $35,000 each year during the point of the fiscal austerity and the fact that the cab was not spending its money as fast as it was coming into their budget the council actually stopped adding additional budget in in 2007-08 for a period up until 17-18 so the last 10 years has actually been the cab spending down unawarded grant monies until this this um to this year during this current fiscal year at least the grant cycle 2017-18 it actually happens in the fall so it ends up spending money generally from a prior fiscal year the cab decided to increase the the grant size to $5,000 which is the highest it had ever been and although traditionally the number of grants received in a on an average year was about 26 this year we received 48 grants in a total of $180,237 20 of those 48 grants were actually submitted by Eric Frazier on behalf of the Greater Cherry Street Neighborhood Association and the total of that ask was $82,625 the cab chose nine projects for funding this year totaling $31,483 and before going on I want to just kind of share some of the some of the areas that have been funded by the cab grants are block parties there's a for the Love of Books program that was in the rosin area we fund a community gardens tree plantings murals street paintings the June the annual Juneteenth celebration and a tool library so the range of projects has actually been pretty varied and nine of those kinds of products were actually awarded this year so the the period for this exercise actually was just before the fires happened and so we have this overlap of the notice being sent for the for none for non-awarding and then the response by Mr. Frazier about the appeal so we were contacted in December and the initial appeal was for 17 of the 20 grants and then after meeting with staff that number was actually reduced and so the remaining five grants and so you see the line that says 1705 through 1715 are a series of grants that he has withdrawn his appeal for their number of the process for the grants is actually they come in they're reviewed by staff and then all of those grants are submitted to the community advisory board for their voting there's an opportunity for applicants to present but there's not a requirement and the grants the presentations don't aren't waited in whether or not what the scoring or the evaluation process is is the evaluation criteria include things like projects that support community building and strengthening of neighborhoods and relationship building among residents they should reference partnering organizations and individuals and associations and the real core of the thinking is that their activities that actually build community in in terms of activities as opposed to actual kind of concrete improvement projects so the basis so the process is for those applicants who were not that were not selected by the cab and there were a number of them there's a letter that's written that explains that it was a pretty competitive process 180 thousand dollars worth of asks and 30 thousand dollars worth of revenue and thank them for their applications but explained that we the cab had to actually make some very difficult decisions the appeal was based on several things one was the feeling that mr. Frazier didn't have sufficient time to present that the and that he was unsatisfied with the reasoning for the applications which is there was more asked than there was funding in the review process although the entire package of applications actually goes to the to the cab there's a council policy policy 13-32020 which actually speaks to the responsibility of the maintenance of sidewalks and that responsibility rests with the property owner so a number of these grant applications were actually declined by the cab because of this requirement and then the balance of them 1718 and 1720 were more tied to the limitation of funds so at this point we the the the appeal has been narrowed down to five grants and a total of 16 thousand dollars and that amount of money is not available in the community advisory board's budget nor the cab budget and so the recommendation is that the council denied all of the 1718 community improvement grant application appeals submitted on behalf of the greater street greater cherry street neighborhood association and that completes staff's presentation great thank you director madam chair do you have any words that you want to share no further comment all right and I want to thank you for your service sherry is my representative on the community advisory board and is a rock star so thank you councillor there any other questions all right mr. Frazier you'll have five minutes thank you very much Frazier with the greater cherry street neighborhood association I appreciate your time and let me start off also by saying that we have no animosity against staff or any of the winning grants or anything like that but as you can tell in reading our appellate brief that we feel that we were engaged in a defective process a defective process by the way that appears to be addressed by a very expensive consultant within the last year and so probably the strategy in the process has changed now in the in cab when it comes to administering these grants and it is true that we did submit a plethora of grants they included a share for a permanent sidewalk repair for the non-profits and churches and seniors that are aging in place in our neighborhood the greater cherry street neighborhood is probably the oldest neighborhood in santa rosa and it's not governed by any type of homeowners association or anything like that and so we have to find a way forward to make sure that these permanent repairs take place I might also say that the cig the community improvement grant process is an important process that magnifies the donations of time and labor and donations of money from the community and has to have at least a one-to-one match in the process I know the application materials say a one-to-one match but in actuality a lot of the grant applications exceed that in fact that was the case in total of all the grants that were submitted even though where the ask was 82,000 dollars the matching amount was estimated to be 181,000 on top of it so for every dollar that went in more than almost three times as much money was raised in matching grants so yes we're now we're now appealing three areas of grants one has to do with sidewalk assessment and information campaigns as well as verge remediation the other one has to do with educating dog walkers about responsible activities and the third one has to do with funding neighborhood groups communication programs and so as we run through those we see that of course sidewalks are a major problem and especially in the oldest neighborhood of the city and the really the best practices that emerge from our research show that communities will have a cooperative buying strategy in the attachments to our materials you would see that there's a plethora of communities that do that successfully including san francisco and those community-based cooperative buying programs reduce the price for permanent sidewalk repair significantly comparing a four by four repair using the city of san francisco's pricing guidelines we're talking about somewhere around 1500 1600 dollars the quotes that we receive from contractors willing to do the work and that's not easy to find here in san aroza points that figure more to five to eight thousand dollars for property owner in the city and that's really quite a huge burden especially for our seniors aging in place but really all property owners so it's prudent on us to find a way forward that creates a best practice scenario when it comes to sidewalk repair the other issue that we want to take up with of course when we're talking about the pushback from cab as far as why these grants shouldn't go forward they raise this the council policy and the ordinance about sidewalk repair being the property owners responsibility but in actuality a lot of the sidewalk problems are not caused by defects in the property owners area of influence or adjacent utilities or on city property there's other things that need to be actually accounted for for these permanent repairs to be affected the other area that we're talking about was irresponsible dog ownership and really our request for just a little bit of money to put out an informational booklet on this we feel is money well spent one of the grants that we did not appeal was for a dogway station we had the property owners approval and everything just in exchange for some wood chips for crying out loud but again that was also discarded so I make note in my appellate brief that really the confluence of dog feces and defective sidewalks can be illustrated by the new nine million dollar campus at the santa rosa charter school for the arts walk around there or try to walk around there you can't they they did this beautiful job on the campus award winning campus but the sidewalks and the verges totally neglected thank you sir if I can just finish my one point go ahead wrap up thank you and then the last thing really had to do with the communication package anybody who's involved in neighborhood organizing knows that to thoroughly communicate with your neighborhood it costs a good goodly share of money so it's surprising to me to discover an unrestricted youth fund in the office of community engagement that can be used by some community groups and not others it's not widely publicized and has no rules and so that we feel is unfair and we need transparency and we need action on that great thank you sir thank you very much councilor are there any questions for the applicant let's go ahead the question for the staff or the or the appellant your sidewalk information kit this is the kit that helps people identify bids to do sidewalk repairs what does it do exactly sure the first thing is to analyze the the need for the repairs and who's responsible for those repairs what we have is a milieu of defective sidewalks approximately 120 defects on 170 properties and so it's not clear who's responsibility that is and so it requires a little bit of analysis and inventory to get to that point thank you thank you so much right council we have to disclose any ex parte communications that we've had on this as it is an appeal i have spoken with the applicant as well as the chair of the community advisory board but no additional information that was not presented tonight was was present at that time cast member tippets no i've met and had conversation with mr frazier okay i've spoken with the appellant and also with my two community advisory board members victoria fleming analysts into more and i don't believe any additional information that was conveyed that's not here right i was i'm told that this this item was going to be coming forward by miss barnes body but i didn't learn anything at that point anymore than i learned this evening and council member olivaris no communications chris actually real quick i have talked with mr frazier at great length about the sidewalk stuff but i don't think and correct me if i'm wrong anything pertaining to this appeal yep great council are there any additional questions and then i will open the public hearing i do have two cards on this if you'd like to speak you don't necessarily have to turn in the card but we'll start with duane duit and he'll be followed by cindy bishop hello my name is duane duit i'm from roseland i've followed the community action team from the 1990s forward to when it became the community advisory board and i wanted to state that i'm glad that we have this and that people are trying to have some positive community involvement i have not spoken with mr frazier about this and i am not involved with the cherry street neighborhood in any way except i go through there almost every day and i understand their concerns from personal experience four years ago myself and others in roseland learned about the difficulties with the accountability and transparency in this grant program we had gotten approval for a small one thousand dollar grant which we would match with one thousand dollars worth of labor with members from church groups that i attend willing to do volunteer work to replace a fence at southwest community park we had everything all set for arbor day march 12th i believe it was of that year we're all ready to move forward and we got notice a week before we were to do it we had the materials lined up you have to pay for it yourself ahead of time and then they reimburse you as the way this works so you're not getting city money to do this until after it's done a city staff member informed us they weren't going to let the project go forward they had a different idea on what they wanted to do so i had to get those church members and all those other volunteers out to plant trees instead of building a thousand dollars worth fencing materials are going to be donated to us and then pay for later it was quite a bothersome experience afterwards i was not told how i was to go forward i was said it was said yes that money that grant you have to use it for something else no one ever gave us the information on how to do it how to get another project going forward and essentially nothing has happened for us on that rosalyn situation so i bring that forward to help you understand the difficulties that happen when you try to work as a citizen utilizing something within the bureaucracy to help your community there are more obstacles than you expect and if that obstacle stops you it's just your tough luck because no one's going to step forward and really help you i believe yeoman work has been done by this gentleman the people from the cherry street neighborhood to try to get something positive done so i'd say i support their appeal but you're going to plead poverty and say we don't have the money well you know what if you can't help your community it's a sad state of affairs thank you mr. dwight thank you cindy bishop hi cindy bishop i'm in the cherry i live in the cherry street neighborhood and eric lives block away and i really appreciate the hard work that he's done whether it's a match for the community advisory what is called community improvement grant process or not it's it is what he's done with the sidewalk issue is raise the awareness in our neighborhood about that and it's it's important to us and it is bringing people together i i hadn't done a lot of research so i don't know if it's a match for the community for for what the you know if it's a match and but i do support the appeal because it's it's something that even if it's not even if the sidewalks are supposedly the responsibility of the residents i think there's a gray area and that it would bring people together and has to do research and it's a worthy project so i think that among the other projects that eric has been researching and putting a huge amount of energy and mobilizing people to be more aware of our valid issues you see people who are handicapped and elderly having problems with the sidewalks all the time one of our neighbors goes down the middle of the street with his dog and his wheelchair because he can't go on the sidewalks and it does if it's the responsibility of every homeowner they can't afford to make these huge changes so i'm glad to know the city is doing some uh some provisional repairs i think uh that eric helped get going so it's a little bit of gray area but i support i appreciate the community improvement grants and appreciate what eric's doing in raising the awareness and togetherness of our neighborhood around these issues thank you so much is there anyone else who would like to speak on this item go ahead i just wanted a can to see lies i just wanted to add to the sidewalk situation that when i was in sacramento they have a really good solution to the wheelchair ramp and what they do is they bring asphalt from the road right up on the sidewalk and make a easy thing and so uh there's it's easy access and it's cheap and i don't know if the way the roads are made and the corners are made in san aroza could be adapted that way but it was a nice solution that i saw thank you so much is there anybody else i will close the public hearing mr oliver so i'm going to ask you to put a motion on the table so that we can have a discussion thank you vice mayor i'll make a motion to deny all fiscal year 2017 18 community improvement grant application appeals submitted by eric frazier on behalf of the greater chair street neighborhood association second all right council discussion council member tippets thank you vice mayor mr frazier i want to thank you for coming down and and all the work that you put into into what is clearly a pretty exhaustive information packet here i wanted to tell you though i'm going to be uh voting uh no on the appeal i'll be supporting the motion to deny it only because i i've been pretty familiar with the community advisory board grants and and to me these really don't fit that but what i think you've done here is pretty successful in bringing attention to what is an ongoing issue whose responsibility is it to pay for sidewalks the residential property owner or the city time and again we're we're told that it's the residential property owner probably for budgetary reasons in a litany of case law that supports that position but you know i do think one thing that you mentioned to me that i think is really worthwhile and should be submitted to the community advisory board next year going through the the normal process is a sir or some kind of a survey or information pack that helps your neighbors identify good and cheap contractors or go through an easy to understand bidding process to get the lowest responsive bidder to fix your sidewalks now maybe the council takes it up at some future date i don't know the overarching issue of who who pays but not only would i think that'd be a benefit for your neighborhood that people walking on the sidewalks but the whole city because i think it's actually a pretty valuable service that you could you could propose i'd encourage you to do that any other council members well i go ahead council member comes thank you it's my understanding that the sidewalk repairs have been withdrawn is that correct it's not one of the issues before us tonight that said i think there's some benefit to looking into the co-op buying process that's being discussed obviously when staff has the resources and the ability to do that that would be something that we may want to consider i'm aware having started up a neighborhood association quite a few years ago that it was very helpful to have communications resources from the from the community advisory board certainly we did not ask in this range were any alternatives asked of um of the appellant uh with regard to his communications package sometimes in the past the community advisory board has said we can't do this dollar amount but we could do some other dollar amount would you be interested was that pursued so as they deliberated some of those questions came up but because there were so many applicants and they were submitted in a way that were not kind of gradations of i could do this or with more money i could do that that question really was not presented to him but i but i want to clarify that what remains is actually a sidewalk condition survey a sidewalk information pack a verge remediation project and then the community dog walker info pack and communications those are the remaining on appeal i was specifically asking about 1720 on appeal and if that communication package was discussed in any more detail it was not okay i will say that communications is essential for neighborhoods particularly neighborhoods starting up i also feel that it's very important for us to support our community advisory board decision making process and to support the board i think that's a hardworking group there's quite a lot of heads making good decisions in that room and i want to thank them for the work that they do council member soyer thank you vice mayor i'm i just wanted to get a little clarification can i assume that the council is not making recommendations to the cab for next year's considerations i was hearing something a little close to a recommendation i would come to so we can clarify that there's no there's no suggested recommendation correct coming from the council i did not hear one okay okay but without any kind of suggestion that the cab would follow that recommendation right okay thank you um i had you know i have to to agree that i'm i know that the cab works very hard there are there's i think always disappointment uh when one um believes very strongly about a recommendation or or an ask from from the cab grants because they people are very passionate about those those requests and i understand that and i have to to um follow the recommendations of the cab and i would venture a guess that if if sidewalk and the repair the repair was removed from this ask but my guess is that the sidewalk repairs were to be included in the original conversations it was before before the council when cab first got these um the ability to grant funds that the the council would have a great deal of of angst about um including sidewalk repair in any kind of cab grant all right well i do also want to thank go ahead council member just had my two cents and i i do appreciate um eric the amount of time and effort and energy put into this i mean i think we've had two hour long conversations and you're very well prepared um but similar to what some of my colleagues said you know i am uh supportive of the process um and it went through the whole process and i know what cab is doing it's uh sometimes thankless work because i think your salary is even less than our salary is um but these are difficult decisions and again you made so many um valid points eric when we spoke but it's just i don't think this is the vehicle to address what those things are so i am going to be supporting the motion thank you council member and and i just want to echo the comments that have been made in the sentiment uh i do also want to acknowledge that we're talking about a neighborhood that feels as though uh their sidewalks have been impacted by decisions that the city has made in the past particularly planting additional trees in some of the planter strips that then might have some sidewalk issues as well so while i don't think that the cab grants are the appropriate vehicle to do this kind of work i think uh what you've done mr frazier to get this moving forward has been really productive for us and i'd like to work with you next year in our budget setting process to see whether or not this is something where we can do a pilot whether it's in this neighborhood or something broader throughout the whole city to see if we can realize some of those savings from people working together and having an understanding of of what they're going to do as for the uh other two that were denied because they just weren't funded i agree with my colleagues that the the amount of work that the community advisory board goes through on these grants is pretty incredible i actually had an opportunity to serve on the community advisory board for four years and i understanding mr duitt's comments as well is why the these grants have gone through reform after reform after reform to have additional processes put in place to lift the cap off of that thousand dollars so that we can have meaningful projects that come forward that are just not just produced by the community but uh moved along by the community advisory board and people who are invested in the neighborhoods so i will also be supporting the motion uh with the understanding that hopefully we can continue to work together on the other issues in the coming months as we prepare for next budget season council your vote and that motion passes with six i's thank you sir we will uh go on written communications we have one letter and then final public comment rosanna gonzalez followed by russell samson is rosanna here oh i apologize good afternoon my name is rosanna gonzalez um i have been homeless now for going on eight years after um being sick and a divorce well separation from my husband caused me to lose my home of 10 years to foreclosure i'm here to try to give a first view of the huts on the property owner of dave burdo who has done nothing but try to help us out of his selflessness and choosing to love his neighbor as himself first half of the year i've been there i have had two part-time jobs one at dollar tree and one as a site manager through catholic charities um i went to school i'm trying to get my bachelors in sociology since then i've been able to um keep my health improving i have internal bleeding and need continued blood transfusions i now have a full time job as a well interim resident manager for a bridge housing low-income housing tax credit company um i'm still also attending senator rose of jc classes part-time having this hut has been a tremendous improvement for me i have been in sam joe's the rose the family support center camp mckayla safe parking the hut has given me the best support because i have been able to leave my clothes of course i have to be really presentable being a resident manager and talking with very important people to keep that low-income housing in our community i'd also like to state um that being in the shelters you're limited to one to six months that gives you barely enough time to get familiar with that from being from a house to a place of a hundred people um there's mental health there diseases you can get sicker quicker that didn't mean to rhyme and also i am close to having 25 days to be the permanent resident manager possible the free three bedroom world rent free three bedroom housing um but my fellow homeless people that are still there um it's vital to keep them it's safer for women for the vets it's how you know a little bit more of stability gives you a little bit more of a face to look out to people and not be seen as the homeless i am houseless that is true but i do provide back into my community i do volunteer i do go to school i do work and i do try attempt to receive a house it is very difficult with lower income because they want you to have three times the amount of the rent that they're asking of from a one bedroom 1500 i have children my children were taken well not taken but given to live in my husband's care which he has written a one bedroom let me close it up um due to my homelessness of staying in a hotel which was the similar thing thank you so much rosanna wrestle followed by eric frazier hello i'm ross samson i live in one of the huts on the bright property and i was shocked to get our notice that we have to vacate we've been there for a year and a half and what is the city's reasoning that we need to be placed out on the street they're worried about our health and safety how is going to be on the street of the city of santa rosa gonna be any more healthy and safer for me than living in the hut that i've been in for a year and a half there's no there's no uh recourse for the city i mean basically we're given a notice we have no due process we have to be gone immediately we don't have a day we don't have 10 days we don't have 30 days we have to be out on the street and what's even worse is now the property owner is going guess what not only you guys out but the huts are going to and according to the city they've got to have a permit to even remove the huts and they don't recommend moving them they want them dismantled according to the city's documentation they want them dismantled in other words we want to bulldoze them excuse me we're not going to let you reuse these things anywhere we want them gone i don't understand the city can do this without any due process you know i mean and the fact that now how was anybody in this city going to say okay we're going to try to help the homeless people if you don't have a i dotted and every t crossed what are you going to do the city's going to come after you the city wants to go after mr burdo they want to prosecute him because the huts are on his property that's just stupid he out of the courtesy you know out of the goodness of his own christian belief says we're going to try this here we're going to we can do this here it'll work and it has for a year and a half we've had no problems there's been some growing pains when we've been there but i mean it's it's it's been a working in progress it's been great it's been great having that place to come home to not have to worry about your stuff being stolen you've got a place that's dry come wintertime there's no heat but i mean hey i've got to sleep in bed and a couple wool blankets man i'm fine in that hut how is that going to be any worse than on the streets of san aroza no empathy for the city going thank you but get the heck out of our town because we don't want the homeless people here gee whiz will you just please go away that's all i get from the city council i've been here for how long now two years coming to these meetings and i hear you guys talk about emergency proclamations and what's happened i don't see anything i mean if it hasn't been for catholic charities and let me tell you i don't want to get into that ball wax because every time you go to catholic charities i wish i bang my head against well because i go away going why did i come here they're not all helpful but you guys seem to think they're great they're the only game in town thank you sir they're not thank you eric frazier and eric you'll be followed by debora uh and moonellson i apologize thanks again eric frazier um representing myself that's um hard hard words to follow actually my heart goes out to those that are sleeping rough tonight and i've been in city council meetings where we've discussed safe parking and logically i i can't figure out why we don't have at least that um but i did want to address one issue so i can provide some insight perhaps and that was the question about hud vouchers being used for rooms and houses and i know that the client that i'm working with share california is starting to make that happen so i know there's a reality to being able to use these vouchers uh in occupied houses where the providers allowing a room or rooms to be let um so you might also remember the research that now i have vetted with uh state universities that shows in sonoma county that every night even after the fires some 27 percent of our bedrooms already built in our existing housing are unoccupied that's approximately 149 000 empty bedrooms uh as a citizen i i rose up and i said what can i do to at least make that housing stock 10 percent more efficient so personal goal i sent for myself was 15 000 bedrooms having people sleeping in them helping our seniors that are aging in place or helping develop a healthier economy including short-term hosting options and so that's a number that still sticks with me fortunately i'm getting traction for these ideas outside of the very city i live in so we'll be addressing statewide audiences at the cwda meetings we'll be going to national home share conferences and we're developing high-level relationships with companies like airbnb and other people that really are concerned about excess inventory going to waste and the inefficiency of our of our processes we don't need to act this way we're benevolent generous caring neighbors there are other ways thanks fridge i'll look forward to working with you as well thanks for your time this evening thank you thank you mr frazier deborah followed by kandace aliza deborah kandace i i i i don't know about economics but and my name is kandace aliza but to me i think that the banking and economics have everything in the world to do with homelessness because i've been traveling all over the state asking why even in rural counties why can't i just walk in and find a place to live and i went to a little lincoln lincoln's right above sacramento it's a little tiny rural community and then i'll i go down the road just a couple miles and there's seas and seas of these brand new houses a million dollar houses and i thought the the community of lincoln doesn't need these houses who's building these houses and i don't know if jp morgan's building these houses but in napa uh well back to the declaration of independence and i don't know in your oath if you say to hold that but there's a phrase in there somewhere about uh our country being taken over from the outside and the inside and i myself believe that our governments are still really good and i do believe that uh i don't know what this new world order is i have no idea but there's some entity all of a sudden three years ago between three and five years ago at least 10 giant wealth management companies moved into napa and they started buying up neighborhoods and buildings and all of a sudden the rent jumped up a thousand dollars in one pop and um all of a sudden napa is full of people from france and china in uh germany and russia and there's hardly any natives from napa left there and i say this to you because i think it's happening really fast our whole state is being bought up by wealth from around the world and pretty soon uh i you know i go around and ask i had a housing voucher i waited eight years for and so i go around and i got off the track i'm sorry uh i i went i went again and i put my to put my name on the list and they said why bother there's 900 people on the list and then i find people who don't who just came from russia and and uh they don't hardly speak english although the senior lady who's a beautiful lady at my church she's trying real hard but she just zoomed right in the senior housing and i don't know what entity is allowing these things to happen but i don't know i i don't know if i'm strong enough to go to washington dc and try and thank you eliza lobby about this but please consider it i think sabastopol's thank you so much taken over by this all right council and that concludes the meeting