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Let's get these algorithms triggered, making sure people are able to view this content. Thank you so, so much. Also, BCV merchandise, as you can see behind my head, if you'd like to support the ministry by getting some of this merchandise in gear, you can do so by clicking the information BCV link below as well. Thank you, those of you who have been joining us. I hope your Monday has been going well. And we have a very informative live, very informative broadcast to bring before you to date. And so moderators, thank you for holding it down. You have the con. Do what you will to those who come in to try to stir up confusion and create discord and all of that good stuff. You have my full pleasure authority to do what you do best and that is regulate and moderate. So, all right. Simple question I want to ask all of you. Do you believe Alan Parr is a false teacher? I didn't ask you or didn't make a declarative statement on my end that he's a false teacher. I'm asking, do you believe he's a false teacher? Why do I pose that question? Because he put a video out recently stating that there are people in these social media and YouTube streets that have declared him to be a false teacher. Now, I'll just say for myself, I'm not saying that he's a false teacher. I would not say he's a false teacher yet. However, however, there are some very, very serious and I mean very dire concerns that I have regarding Alan Parr's ministry and the things that he has said. But I'm not saying that he's a false teacher, but I will call him this. I will call him this. I will call him a brother who is in sin. I will call him a traitor. I will say that or that he has done some treacherous and have behaved in a way that will mark him as a traitor and that has given his ministry to become a Trojan horse for heretics like Marcus Rogers. I will say that and I will say that he needs to repent. I will say that as of today's podcast or broadcast that you're watching this live right now, he has yet to repent, recant, retract, remove his statements regarding affirming a known heretic like Marcus Rogers as a brother and so has Rouge line. Does that mean that these people cannot make truthful statements? Yes. I'm talking about these people meaning Alan Parr. Of course he can. Of course he can. Have I gone on record and told people not to support his channel until he repents? Yes I have and I will continue to do so until this brother repents. Until this brother repents. May I ask another question? If you don't mind, I know I'm making some strong statements, but you know I don't make strong statements without bringing strong receipts. How do you feel about Joe Biden? Do you all believe that Joe Biden is a traitor? Do you believe that Joe Biden has supported countries that do not take our best interests at heart? What is your take on Joe Biden? Remember some people would call Joe Biden Beijing Joe, right? What is your attitude? What is your take? What is your position regarding Joe Biden? Do you consider Joe Biden to be a person that has put this country's best interests forward? Let me put these comments up here. Trader Joe, no one believes that Joe Biden is definitely a traitor and a racist. No argument there my brother. Loretta says traitor, traitor, traitor. You can mirror welcome. I think it's your first time out. I believe welcome to the broadcast. A horrendous leader you say. No problem. Alexis, what's going on my sister? Welcome. Not a heretic, but definitely a spiritual scent. Referring to Alan Parr. I believe Erica said you don't know what I think about. I think you meant to say you don't know what I, you don't want to know what I think about Biden. I think it's what you meant to say. I think. Let's see. Isaac Grayson peace to you as well. That one beat says Trump was a better president. Joseph Hardaway calls Biden a traitor. Okay. How many of you all seen the video? I believe I've done two of them called traitors are us. How many of you seen that video? Those videos I've done. Traitors are us. And yes, please like hit that like button on your way in. Dust your feet off before walking into the house and hit that like button on as you as you enter in. I would appreciate that. How many of you all seen the video that I did called traitors are us. How many liberated truths says this, I think when a person starts getting big on YouTube, if they're, if they're not careful, they can become just like some mega church pastor without accountability facts. I totally agree. I totally agree. Made in America. You said you've seen it. Erica said you've seen it. Sheila, if you have not seen it, when you guys finish watching this live, I would encourage you to go over there to my YouTube channel and just watch traitors are us part one and two. And then you'll get the gist and the vibe of what I'm talking about. I don't believe, I don't let me put it this way because I like hearing from the audience. Do you believe that my assessment and my conclusions regarding Alan Parr and Rouge line in their relationship and affiliation and affirmation of Marcus Rogers, do you believe I was overboard? Do you believe that I was out of bounds, out of pocket, out of line? Do you believe that I was biblically wrong in making those statements? Do you believe that my video admonishing and exhorting the body of Christ to not support these men until they repent? Do you believe I was out of bounds with that? Yes or no? Yes or no? Loretta, you said no. Norma Lee says no. Elite energy. You said you think I was in the pocket. Okay. And I hope you're not being biased because y'all know how we do here, right? I want you to be fair if I'm wrong, if I'm inciting to show me. But I don't believe in my own heart and in my own mind and conscience that I was wrong. I assessed those videos, I took those videos, and I did not take anything out. I made clear statements in response to what they themselves had put before the public. Okay. And I plan to do that tonight. I plan to do that tonight. Neland, I'm glad you agree that he's not a burb. I agree with you, my bro. I agree with you. But Alan Parr would disagree with you and I. He says he would not go as far to say that he's not a Christian. So I don't know if the seven month old, aka young Don reborn is calling Alan Parr a false teacher because of his affirmation and support of a heretic like Marcus Rogers. I don't know if that's his reason. Don't know. But if that is, then Alan, you have some explaining to do. Now, what I plan to do tonight is to share some videos, clips, and you can go to his channel. You can go to Alan Parr's channel and you can watch it yourself. And you can you can make the judgment yourself. Building a bridge to heretics. We don't find in scripture. Do you find in scripture, ladies and gentlemen, brothers and sisters that we're to build bridges to heretics and for heretics. Now, this is the same brother that graduated from DTS Dallas Theological Seminary who prides himself and being a graduate of that school. I don't have a theological degree. Let me just say that off the rip. I don't have a theological degree, but I do know my Bible by God's grace. I have some some level and some formal education. Yes, yes, but I don't have a degree. So this is not about what's behind your name. Letters or whatnot. No, ma'am. I don't. I don't have a degree. The Lord stopped me from getting it. Just a few hours short from getting one. He stopped me because it made me arrogant and prideful. So he hit me where it hurt. And that was in my pocket book. My wife could probably give you all the testimony on that because she can tell the story better than I could. But nonetheless, no, I don't have one. So this is not about degree. This is about our devotion to the Word of God, to the truth of God's Word. Be great. I got no biblical education meant to say education. David says seminary can do that to you. So what I want to do tonight, what I want to do tonight is I want to play, I want to play the clips in Alan Parr's own words and I will respond in kind. And of course, just like we gave reactions to the Shepherd's conference this past week, I want to see and hear your reactions to what Alan Parr says. And if his assessment, if his reasons on why, he doesn't respond to people who call him a false teacher, which actually is a response. He did a video explaining why he doesn't respond. Alan, if you're watching this, because I definitely tagged you, you're bothered by this. And by the way, Alan has almost one million subscribers, 998,000 subscribers, 998,000 subscribers. I think Jesus says something about to who much is given, much is required. That includes the influence that you and I have. Oh, he's going to hit it. He's definitely going to hit the one million mark. He's going to hit it. He's going to get that plaque. But nonetheless, I want you to hear in his own words, his reasons, reasons why he doesn't respond to videos, which really he did by making a response video to the videos that he's not going to respond to. But without any further ado, let's jump right into it. I've got about six reasons why I don't respond to most of, if not all of the criticism that people have shared on YouTube publicly about me, and I'm going to hopefully give you some biblical reasons that you can follow in your own life as well. Now, you heard what Alan said. He said he's going to give us biblical reasons. Okay. He's going to give us biblical reasons why he does not respond to the accusations of him being a false teacher. Okay. Now, I'm going to let him say it. I'm just going to respond to some of the things that he says, the things that I agree with his assessments on. I will definitely say I agree. Alan, you're spot on my brother, you're spot on with this, you're spot on with that. No problem. Not a problem. But now he said, okay. He said he's going to give biblical reasons, biblical reasons. Key word, operative word, biblical. So we're going to make sure that we hold Alan to that. Reason number one is that I don't want to get in the way of the Gospel of Christ being preached. He says, it's true that some are preaching out of jealousy and rivalry, but others preach about Christ with pure motives. They preach because they love me for they know I have been appointed to defend the good news. Those others do not have pure motives as they preach about Christ. They preach with selfish ambition, not sincerely, intending to make my chains more painful to me. Even if their motives are impure, even if they are trying to tear me down and slander me and malign me, I'm not going to respond. I'm not going to retaliate. I'm not going to get in the way because at the end of the day, the Gospel is still being preached. And so for many people who make response videos about me, if they're preaching the Gospel, if people are coming to Christ or people are learning the word of God from their channel, far be it from me to do what they're doing, right? To discourage people from following these people simply because I might disagree with the point of doctrine here or there. Let me not get in the way of what Christ may want to do through their ministries, the way they may be trying to discourage people from following my ministry. So that's the first reason. Okay. So he said, that's his first reason. Now, I believe we need to be balanced in this, right? There are times I agree that there are times that we should not respond. I believe it's an issue of judgment. It's a judgment call. It's a wisdom call, right? But I also believe that there are times that we should, there are times that we should. But Alan, I would have to say to you, my brother, that not everyone that is responding to your videos or responding to the things that you say are trying to destroy you or trying to attack you or trying to tear you down. I don't believe that. I don't believe that. But apparently, apparently whoever these people are, they are, they've made you respond. They've made you respond to their claims of you being a false teacher. Now again, I'm not going to say you're a false teacher. I'll say that you have, you have been a traitor. I'll say that you've allowed your platform to become a Trojan horse for heretics like Marcus Rogers and others to come right into the camp and to spread their demonic venom. I mean, brother, you have a, you have a platform. You have a, a huge platform, a very large, enormous platform. And with that, you have influence. And with that influence, you have been irresponsible, irresponsible in your duties to guard the flock. But what you have, what you have done, you have guarded the flock from people like me from having conversations with people like yourself. You have no problem bringing heretics on your platform. Ruslan has no problem bringing heretics on their platform. But you all do everything you can to hinder, to stop individuals like myself from having a dialogue while at the same time claiming that you're open to having dialogue and discussion with anyone. Yes. And Priscilla, and Priscilla Schreyer, her too. And I'm, I'm, I'm going to let people see the reason, the reason and reasons why you hold to the positions that you hold and the reasons why you claim that you don't respond to people who call you false teacher. I will probably say you don't respond to anyone who challenges, who publicly rebukes and publicly corrects your positions that are unbiblical. Let's just, let's just put aside those that want to just lambast you and call you a false teacher without having any biblical proof. You being, I don't want to say even if you're Calvinist, but, but put it this way, if you believe in the, in the doctrines of grace like I do, that's not, that's not being a false teacher. That's somebody being ignorant. That's somebody that's saying something stupid and they're not willing to defend their accusations with the scriptures. So you now would agree when it comes to the essentials, I believe we do. And I know we agree to the essentials when it comes to individuals like John McCrae, what do you mean? Because he disagrees with your positions and your views when it comes to election and things of that nature. And he's another brother that does not want to come up with me. And what I've noticed about you, about Ruslan, about what do you mean, y'all are all running these pockets. And I know y'all talk, because I mean, I know y'all talk, I don't know, you know what I mean? And you know I know y'all talk. So I'm not even gonna go in with y'all, but y'all know, y'all know that, y'all know I know what's up. But y'all know who I am and y'all know how I get down. And my thing is this, if you make statements publicly, then you should be able to stand on your 10 toes and defend it. Why do you all have a problem having conversations with me? I mean, I'm not going to shoot anybody. I mean, I'm packing. But you guys are my brothers, at least that's what I consider you to be. I think it does the body of Christ good to see us having these dialogues and discussions and even feisty debates regarding the things that we believe and we hold to. Why don't y'all do that? Well, Alan, you gave the reasons why you don't do that. The second reason is because if I'm being honest with you, I don't want to give them a platform. And what I mean by that is, if you notice most of the people who make response videos about me or even some other people, if I'm being honest, most of them, they're smaller channels, right? They're smaller channels. And if I'm being honest, a lot of times they put YouTubers who have larger platforms, their names and their pictures and their thumbnails, because they're trying to get views. It's for shock value. They're trying to get momentum on their channel. It's the same thing that many secular YouTubers do. They put Mr. Beast, who is like the largest YouTuber in the world to put his name in their title and his face on their thumbnails because they know if other people see Mr. Beast on their thumbnail or their title, then they're going to be inclined to watch that video or whatever, right? So I get that, okay? That's fine. But for me to make a response video to a channel that, a smaller channel that I don't agree with and I name them, then what I'm doing is now I'm exposing my entire audience to their ministry and giving them a platform and giving them a voice. And that's just not something that I want to do. I told y'all, I was talking to brother Dan the other day. I said, these guys are making my job so easy. I mean, they really are. I don't even, listen, I didn't go looking for this either, folks. Do y'all recall the first thing that Alan said? He said that he is going to give six reasons and then he said how he was going to explain them. And he said, I think you said Alan, it was going to be biblical, right? I've got about six reasons why I don't respond to most of, if not all of the criticism that people have shared on YouTube publicly about me. And I'm going to hopefully give you some biblical reasons that you can follow in your own life as well. Mm, biblical reasons. So, so Alan, what's the biblical reason why you don't want people who have smaller channels to have a conversation with you or to, to know what you've said about things that don't line up biblically, you know, kind of like this reason right here. So, so I'm asking, I'm asking, did anybody hear a biblical reason behind what Alan said? Maybe, maybe I missed it. Maybe I missed it. And if I missed it, maybe we need to run it back and hear it again. The second reason is because if I'm being honest with you, I don't want to give them a platform. And what I mean by that is if you notice most of the people who make response videos about me or even some other people, if I'm being honest, most of them, they're smaller channels, right? They're smaller channels. And if I'm being honest, a lot of times they put YouTubers who have larger platforms, their names and their pictures and their thumbnails because they're trying to get views. It's for shock value. They're trying to get momentum on their channel. It's the same thing that many secular YouTubers do. They put MrBeast, who is like the largest YouTuber in the world, they put his name in their title and their, his face on their thumbnails because they know if other people see MrBeast on their thumbnail or their title, then they're going to be more inclined to watch that video or whatever, right? So I get that, okay? That's fine. But for me to make a response video to a channel that, a smaller channel that I don't agree with and I name them, then what I'm doing is now I'm exposing my entire audience to their ministry and giving them a platform and giving them a voice. And that's just not something that I want to do. So is it safe to say, brothers and sisters, ladies and gentlemen, that he did not provide a BCV for that, for that statement. Remember, Alan, you said biblical. I didn't say it. You said it, sir. But, but what we strive to do over here is to apply that. We strive to apply that to positions that we hold. So that's what I'm going to do. I'm going to supply the scriptures to that arrogant statement that you made, that prideful statement that you made, that selfish, me centered statement that you made, because that's really what it is. And I guess I would even go as far as to say, no, Alan, you don't want a person like me to come up with you because I'm not going to be like Marcus Rogers. You're going to get that biblical work. You're going to, you're going to be held accountable for the things that you've said publicly. And I'm going to make you, force you to provide scripture behind your philosophy. That's why. And you know what else is sad? Here's another thing that's sad, ladies and gentlemen. And I hate doing this. And some of y'all are going to be mad. I know. Y'all were mad last time when I put this person's clip on my channel. But when a person is right, they're right. When a person is spot on, they're spot on. I mean, what am I to do? I'm to test all things and hold fast to that, which is true, right? So brothers and sisters, ladies and gentlemen, don't get mad at me. Okay. Promise me you're not going to block me. Promise me you're not going to put me in timeout, moderators, but I got to do what I got to do. Ladies and gentlemen, once again, I have to agree with the heretic himself, the bearded one, Alex Pagani. We need more Mars Hill moments without worrying about people's subscribers. What's holding people back from having conversations like this? Everyone is subscribers, which means the one who has a lot of subscribers will probably never have a conversation to the one who has less subscribers. Because the one with the largest subscriber is always thinking about, I don't want to promote this other guy with my followers. And I think we need to get delivered from that. I genuinely believe we need to get delivered from that. More dialogue should be had. And I think we need to break away from some of these social media principles of dialogue, which means if the person who has a million viewers, I'm not going to have a conversation with the one that has 50,000 viewers. I'm not going to give him or her a platform on my platform. You know, we need to get delivered from that. We need to get delivered from that, because the Bible says that him, that he, that things that are mighty, have no problem to talk with the person of low degree. Scripture actually, actually, the scriptures actually, actually say this, you know what I'm saying? They actually, they actually, actually say this, you know what I'm saying? And, you know, and I think we need to have this conversation, you know, a little bit more. So that way we can have more Mars Hill moment. What am I to do? What am I to say? He was right. I mean, he's saying what Alan Parr should not have said. And I got to, I have to agree with them. I have to agree with them. Yes, a broken clock is right twice a day. Yes, it is. It's listing it as upcoming rather than live. I'm not surprised. I don't know why. I don't know why. I mean, my stream is showing that it's live and everything. So yeah, YouTube is stripping once again. And this is the reason why I told y'all, you know, when y'all are doing super chats and things like that, some of my may not even receive. I mean, Brother Proverbs had donated and he had to send it through a different, through a different donation link. So if they're doing that with my, with my live stream and letting people know that it's upcoming versus being alive right now, then you all know what time it is. But we got to keep the party going. But anyway, was Pagani right? Yeah, Pagani was right. Pagani was right. So who's the arrogant one? Do you believe that Alan Parr is arrogant? Do you believe the matter of fact, do you believe that that's a sin? Do you believe that being prideful, being selfish is sin? I know y'all do. I know you do. I know you do. And unfortunately, a heretic is exposing and calling out a brother regarding his sin of pride. So he doesn't want to give people a platform. Can I, can I go further? If you don't mind? He doesn't want to give brothers and sisters who disagree with him a platform until or unless it benefits his platform. Don't think for one nanosecond that Marcus Rogers did not benefit his platform because it definitely did. Moderators, viewers, I want you to do me a favor and I'm going to populate your response. I want someone to go to Alan Parr's channel and look at how many subscribers, I already told you it was 998,000, right? Go over to Marcus Rogers channel, look at how many subscribers he has, add those total number of subscribers up and let's see and let's find out how many they have altogether. I would probably say it's over a million plus subscribers that are being deceived into thinking that that it's biblical to build bridges with heretics. Let that sink in. Let that sink in because what happens most of the times is not people that cross over to the light in most cases, it's more people that cross over into the darkness because remember the Bible says that the broad is the road and wide is the way that leads to destruction and many B that find it but narrow is the way, restricted is the way and only few find that. 1.7 million, 1.7 million. Let's just round it up, 1.7 million, right? So Marcus is at 698,000 subscribers. Alan Parr is at 998,000 subscribers. So combined they have 1.7 million combined. This man has cross pollinated platforms to have people to think and believe that he's a brother and then he doubled down. Alan Parr did it, doubled down and say he's going to continue calling this man a brother and continue building a bridge with the heretic and I'm asking those of you, brothers and sisters in the by the Christ who love truth and who love Jesus and his word and his people. Tell me why would you still subscribe and support a person who's a traitor because I already asked you all the question about Joe Biden. Now, if you're going to have more issue and angst with an unbeliever who like Joe Biden, who's not a Christian and you don't support him and you call him a traitor and you call him, you know, his actions treasonous, then how much more do we and should we when it comes to people who are professing Christians and yet they let the wolves come in? They let they give the wolf a platform but you and I, they won't be caught dead giving us a platform or giving or even mentioning our name because as he said, he doesn't want to give us, he doesn't want to give us that shine, that publicity. So let's see what the scripture says. Alan, you don't have, you don't have scripture to support your position but I do. Romans chapter 12 verse 3, the Bible says, for though, for through the grace given to me, I say to everyone among you, not to think more highly of himself than he ought to think, but to think so as to have sound judgment as God has allotted to each a measure of faith. Stop thinking that you're all that Alan. Stop thinking that you're that dude. You're the man because you got a few more subscribers and then the average content creator. Verse 16. This is what this is what Pagani was trying to say. Be of the same mind toward one another. Do not be hearty or proud but associate with the lowly. Do not be wise in your own estimation. Don't believe your own press Alan, just because you got a plaque behind your name and behind your head doesn't make you better than anybody else that doesn't have a plaque. Can I, can I, can I bring it down? Can I bring the cookies down? Alan, you need to stop that, sir. You need to cut that out. You need to, you need to follow the, the admonishment and the exhortations of the apostle Paul who said in 1 Corinthians chapter four verse seven, for who regards you as superior? What did you have that you did not receive? And if you did receive it and you did, we can, we can phrase it this way. And since you did receive it, why do you boast? Why do you brag as if you had not received it? Alan, the reason why you have the 998,000 subscribers and counting is because God in his sovereignty allowed you to have it. But you know what else he has given you? A day to be held accountable, a day to be held responsible for those subscribers, for that influence that you have garnered. That's what he has given to you also. And you're going to, you're going to give an account for the statements that you've made. You're going to give an account for these arrogant and prideful statements that you've made and your unbiblical reason. Remember, because you said in the beginning, you're going to provide biblical reasons on why you don't respond to people who call you a false teacher. And your second point lacks biblical support. You can't defend that which is indefensible, sir. Galatians chapter six verse three, for if anyone thinks he is something when he is nothing, he deceives himself. Alan, you ain't all that, bro. And yes, he can, Pocahontas. Yes, he can. And people, I guess they forget that. They forget that. The same way you've got those subscribers, Alan. God can take it away just like he did with Nebuchadnezzar. Why did Nebuchadnezzar lose his kingdom for seven years? You should know, Alan, you being a Dallas Seminary grad, you know, you being a DTS grad. I mean, you should be at a school, me on that one, right? Why did God take away Neb's kingdom? Why did he have Neb out in the field eating like an animal? Why? Why, Alan? You know why? Our class knows why. Pride. You know, the first thing that God says that he hates and Proverbs chapter six verses 16 to 19 says that's the first thing he hates is a proud look. Pride. Pride. Pride. And God changed the nature of a man to the nature of an animal and had Nebuchadnezzar out on all fours eating grass like an animal for seven years. Hey, Alan, what's it going to take for you to humble yourself? I hope God doesn't shut your channel down for seven years. Some of y'all wouldn't know what to do. Some of y'all wouldn't know what to do. If God shut your channel down for seven years, let alone seven days, maybe even seven minutes. But the arrogance is what God hates. Alan, that was a very prideful and arrogant statement, sir, you need to repent. I'm calling on you to repent. I'm publicly admonishing and publicly rebuking you to repent. Now, you say you won't see it. And you've even said in your video, people have sent you videos about things that people have said about you. You said, you're not watching. Apparently, you watched somebody's video. Otherwise, you wouldn't have made a response video about why you don't respond. And could it be possible? Because, you know, God, God in this providence has a way of getting our attention and he gets our attention, he gets our attention sometimes through means and social media is a mean. It is a medium that he uses to get our attention. Now, we need to examine and make sure what they're saying is true. But if it's true, we need to receive it. Alan, 998,000 subscribers, God is going to hold you accountable for every last one that you have communicated and told to your audience, to your subscribers, to your followers, to people who trust your teaching, that Marcus Rogers, who denies the core essentials of the Christian faith whereby a person is saved, he denies that. He flat out categorically denies it. You affirm him as a brother. I don't know about anybody else, but I consider that to be a very treasonous charge. That's some Balaam stuff. And I just believe that we minimize, we minimize heresy and heretics too much. I mean, we see it happening with Grace Community Church and with John MacArthur. Because he's been in ministry for over 50 years, he can't possibly be wrong and guilty for the things that have now come to light against this man. Why? Because he's an expository. Why? Because he couldn't be known to be doing something like that. Like the author that I read last night, Michael J. Krueger. Amongst our reformed people, we minimize the depravity of man when it doesn't suit our fancy. And Alan, sir, I'm telling you, you don't have to listen to me, but I hope pray to God you do, because I may be one of the ones that God is using to admonish you to repent. You need to repent of that. You need to repent of that before it's too late. Otherwise, you're without excuse. And since the Holy Spirit of God lives in you as a believer, that should have triggered you to say something that's arrogant and as prideful as you said. But I guess that's what happens when you have 998,000 subscribers. Reason number three is that I am trying to avoid any sort of division in the body of Christ. The Bible says, again, I say don't get involved in foolish ignorant arguments that only start fights. Listen, if I make a response video to somebody who made a response video about me, and then they make another response video, and then you got all these other YouTubers who are making these response videos about response videos about response with what's happening, y'all. It is furthering the debate. It's furthering the division. It's furthering all this back and forth, and it's not productive. That's why Paul says to Timothy, don't get involved in it. It's foolish. It's ignorant, and it only starts fights. He says, stay away from those things. So because I read the Bible and I see these verses, I'm staying away from it. I'm staying away from the drama. I'm staying away from responding. The views that I hold are consistent with the views that I learned in Dallas at Seminary, Dallas, the logical seminary, which is considered by many, and I'm not boasting. I'm just saying it's considered by many the Harvard of theological schools. I mean, this is the best theological school in the country, and most reputable Bible scholars agree with about 98 to 99% of my theological teachings. What you're getting from this channel is not heresy or false teaching or strange teaching that's different. It's consistent with Orthodox Christianity that has been passed down to us from generation to generation. I'm not making up any sort of new doctrine or anything like that. So help me understand this, then. You having Marcus Rogers on your channel that wasn't causing division, that didn't cause the body of Christ to now pick a side on who they're going to follow and who they're going to support and who's right. And in fact, someone made the comment and it was spot on with this. I'll populate Gary's first. He says, but yet Alan would make videos correctly Michael Todd, which is understandable, just hypocritical. He can do it to others, but others can't do it to him. Facts. But then someone else said, I believe it was sister, yes, sister Shonda. She said, when Marcus Rogers said Alan didn't have the Holy Spirit, Alan wanted and did speak to Marcus. His video is time to talk. So he does respond. I told y'all. And yes, I agree there. DTS is not the premier school. Let Alan, let Alan Park come out and say that Marcus Rogers is a heretic and that he should be avoided and watch how many subscribers he will lose. Man, look, come on. Come on. Say what he says. How can you criticize a man for not responding to people calling him a heretic? That does not make sense. Alan committed no sin. What law did he break? I'm about to tell you. I'm about to show you. Just stay tuned, Seaway. Welcome to the channel. Gary, yeah, but you have to have over 500,000 subs for him to respond. Oh man. Robert said, many people don't care that someone with the theologist school, many preachers are indoctrinated because of it. So let's continue on because again, I mean, according to, according to Alan, he doesn't like division. Well, Alan, if you don't like the vision, then you need to explain to me what you did by inviting and having Marcus Rogers and then affirming him as a brother, because the Bible says that there must be factions among you. There must be heresies and divisions among you. And here's the reason why. So that those who are approved may be become evident, may be made known among you. That's why Alan, that's why when you say you don't, you don't, you don't want to be the one that causes division, what you kind of did, you kind of did. And so, so people like me, when we say, well, wait a minute, brother, you need to make this right. You need to bring some clarity and understanding to why you did what you did, because basically you were handling a heretic with kid gloves. How many, how many of you believe that that Alan dealt with Marcus Rogers biblically? I'm not asking you to believe he was nice. As a matter of fact, Alan made sure nobody called Marcus Rogers a heretic. I mean, I don't know if y'all remember the comments. I don't know if y'all remember the comments. He was like, okay, you know, let's not, let's not call each other names. Let's keep it, let's keep it respectful. Let's keep it nice. Let's keep it peaceful. You know, let's, let's, let's make sure that we don't, we don't, you know, make any attacks in the, in the, you know, in the chats. I'm like, come on, bro. Come on. Come on. But this is what happens when you're more focused on trying to, like you said, you said this, Alan, you're more concerned about building bridges than building disciples. And when Marcus came on my channel, when I had the women who he had sex with and, and, and grifted and gaffled them for the money and some of you didn't think that it was true. And then the baby mama ended up proving what I said was true. And, and, and Marcus had to tuck tail and run for the hills and so much so that even Marcus Rogers is ex-wife, one of them, inbox me, slid up in my inbox in my DM and told me, and I got the receipts, told me I'm making it hard for him and for her by doing all these videos about him. That's what the baby mama said. That's what the ex-wife said. She affirmed the claims that were true. Then the baby mama, whose daughter he does not want to claim, affirmed everything that I said in those videos were true and the witnesses that came out. So, Alan, you handle this heretic with kid gloves, and yet you, you want to avoid people whose, whose devotion is to the kingdom of God, because we value, we value truth. We value truth. Why did I stop dropping receipts on Marcus Rogers? Well, I think I have enough. I mean, kind of the same way I did with, with G Craig Lewis. I mean, it's a lot. I mean, it's a lot. And I don't want to spend all my life doing that. So, I want to, I want to be led by the spirit of when to put out stuff. You know, I hope that, I hope that makes sense as a Shonda. I do believe that people have enough information to make a decision. I mean, but if the Lord wants me to put out more, trust me, I got over 1300 files on a thumb drive, just waiting and ready to be released even more so. But I believe that, you know, what I put out, if people want to know the truth, then it can, it can definitely serve as purpose. So, but yeah, you said, what about Alan and John rebuking Marcus on Ruslan's channel? Yeah, that was, I would say John did more so, not necessarily Alan, and rebuking versus, versus renouncing and telling a person they're not a Christian, telling a person they need to repent, telling a person that they're a heretic and warning other people that Marcus Rogers is a heretic are two different things. But I don't recall Alan doing that. I don't. I recall vaguely, John aka, what do you mean, trying to, you know, trying to challenge some of Marcus Rogers views, but it was cut short. It was cut short. Gary said, the BCV, oh, you said, when you have time, I'd like to get your take on that video I made about Alan charging $1,500 for his Creators of Christ course on his webpage. Man, I can just stay there right now. He's a charlatan. He's a pimp. I mean, that's easy. I don't even have to do a video about that. He's a pimp. I mean, and that's my point. Listen, if people don't see that this dude is trying to keep his house note paid, and he's trying to continually grift and gaslight the ignorant and the naive and the foolish, mainly are mainly women and weak soy boy drinking, soy milk drinking, soy boy having men. Because those are the only ones that follow this type of stuff. No real man, no real golly woman follows that clown. Nobody is those who don't know doctrine. They don't know Jesus that follow people like Marcus Rogers. So that's easy. That's a softball question, bro. But anyway, let's continue. Now the fourth reason might be the most important and that's the fact that it's a distraction and it takes me off of my mission of preaching the gospel. Notice that Paul says this, but my life is worth nothing to me unless I use it for finishing the work assigned me by the Lord Jesus, the work of telling others the good news about the wonderful grace of God. Paul says I'm on mission. I can't be distracted with all this extra stuff because my mission is to point people to Christ, to tell them of the good news, the wonderful grace of God. Guys, if I were to trace down and track down all the different videos that have been made about me over the years, you know, my whole channel will be about trying to clear my name and refuting this and going on a rant and trying to defend myself to this person, that person, this person, that person. I'm a Bible teacher. I don't have time to do those things. And so that's going to deter me and distract me from my mission. So what I want to encourage you all is that when hate and negativity and criticism comes into your life, make sure that you detect that as being an attack from the enemy that might be, now obviously, you need to assess whether the criticism is true. So always listen to it and see, okay, is there something I need to change? Okay, yes, do that for sure. Be humble, have a humble spirit about that. But after you've done that, see this as, you know, this might be the enemy trying to distract me from what it is God has called me to do in this moment or to discourage me so that I don't even have the mental and the emotional state of mind to be able to focus and do what God has called me to do. So please be on guard for that. Now, to be fair, I would agree. I would agree with you, Allen, with that. Nehemiah chapter four and six come to mind for me. Remember, Nehemiah was building a wall and he had Sam Battletobiah and on. They were trying to dissuade and discourage him and to distract him from doing what God had called him to do, the mission that God had called him to do. And so he didn't want to come down. He said, like, if I come down from here, you know, I'm going to lay hands and it ain't going to be in a, you know, in a ceremonial way either. So yes, there are times I would agree that there are times when we make sure we need to make sure we are discerning and making sure that we're not caught up in distractions. I would agree 100% with your brother on that, that people don't understand that when I do videos, I'll just speak for myself. When I do videos, it's not because I don't have anything else to do or I'm looking for, you know, something to do a video about. No, this video right here took me several hours to compile doing clips and editing and loading up in my queue and putting them up in my scenes and doing thumbnails. Shout out to my boy for the thumbnails. Brother Quam, shout out to him, you know. So with that and then preparing and making notes and looking at scripture references and response to statements, all that stuff is work. All that stuff is work. And my wife can attest to that. All that stuff is work. Now, maybe if things get, you know, progressed for me and I can, you know, the Lord wants me to have a team of people to help me, then that'll help the process faster. But it's just me. It's me and mine, right? But so with that means then there are times when there are distractions. There are times when the enemy will try to come and try to throw you off your square. I get it. I totally get it. But we have to be wise. We have to know when to come down from the wall and deal with the distractions and when to just basically shoot the distractions away and keep building. Because remember in the text, remember in the text, he had a tool in the hand and then he had another tool. You know what I'm saying? He had two tools. One was for building, one was for putting up stuff and one was one was for putting down. So we have to be discerning with that. And I would agree. I would totally agree with you, Allen, on that. Okay. Reason number five is because not engaging is, if I'm being honest, it's more Christ-like. Notice what Peter says. He, speaking of Jesus, did not retaliate when he was insulted nor threatened revenge when he suffered. See, so he says, hey, even Jesus, whenever Jesus was on the cross, when he was being reviled, when he was being insulted, Jesus did not open his mouth. He did not retaliate. He did not threaten revenge when he suffered. I'm saying a whole lot more about my character and I'm not boasting. I'm just being honest with you when I don't respond as to when I do. Because what I'm doing is I'm saying, you know, I'm going to rise above this. Yes, these people have made some videos and things like that, but I'm going to rise above it. And that's what I'm trying to model for you, rise above the negativity, rise above. You're better than that, right? Rise above the haters and the critics, the critics in your life, rise above that. You don't need to respond. Why? Because it says this next, he left his case in the hands of God who always judges fairly. Jesus says, you know what? I don't have to do anything. God's going to fight for me. God's going to handle these people. God is going to deal with these people. And that's the mentality I have, guys. Remember, ladies and gentlemen, this is a DTS grad. I'm not a DTS grad. This is a DTS grad. So if you graduated from a Bible seminary, such as DTS, that you said is the best out there, right? So then that means I would presuppose that you study, you study theology, theology proper, you study Christology, Pneumatology, you study, you study, you study the basic tenets of the faith, you study the languages, Hebrew and the Greek, you studied all of that, church history, Bible knowledge, you studied all that. How do you get, how do you make that assessment, Allen, by saying that you're trying to rise above, you're trying to show people, you're trying to be a model, your words, your words. You're trying to be a model, a model of what? Of not how to properly exegete the scriptures. Because you act as though Jesus never defended himself. You act as though the scriptures don't give us any record of Jesus ever defending himself when he was falsely accused, slandered, attacked, misrepresented, and just straight up lied on. You act as though the scriptures give no account of that, that Jesus know the apostles ever, ever defended themselves against those who tried to slander them. And Allen, I have to push back on you, bro, you don't know what you're talking about or you do and you're trying to flip it to act like you're a martyr, you're not a martyr here, sir. You're not, you're not a martyr, you're not innocent. I'm sorry, you're not innocent in this because the scriptures give us clear examples. The Bible gives us clear examples of Jesus responding, Jesus clapping back at people, Paul and the apostles clapping back at people with the truth. So let's look at the scriptures, shall we? Mark chapter three, we're gonna start at verse 13. Mark chapter three verse 13 through 30. Bear with me, ladies and gentlemen, because I want us to have, I want us to have a biblical understanding on, on what does the Bible teach regarding this, okay? Because there's far too many people and some of you may be watching this and you're telling people to respond is not Christlike. This man said to basically to not respond is more Christlike. So that means to flip it to respond is not being like Christ. Well, then Christ ain't, ain't being Christlike then because he did respond. We get that from Seiko. Let's start at verse 13. He then went up and he went up on the mountain, summoned those who he himself wanted and they came to him. And he appointed 12 so they would be with him and that he could send them out to preach and to have authority to cast out demons. And he appointed the 12, Simon to whom he gave the name Peter and James, the son of Zebedee and John, the brother of James. To them he gave the name Boagenees, which means sons of thunder and Andrew and Philip and Bartholomew and Matthew and Thomas and James, the son of Alphaeus and Thaddeus and Simon the zealot and Judas Iscariot who betrayed him. And he came home and the crowd gathered again to such an extent that they could not even eat a meal. When his own people heard of this, they went out to take custody of him for they were saying he has lost his senses. The scribes who came down from Jerusalem were saying he is possessed by Beelzebul. He cast out the demons by the ruler of demons. So do we see the accusation? Do we see the accusation? Verse 22 describes, accuses, and falsely ascribe our Lord of being possessed by a demon and says that he casts out demons by the ruler of demons. That's an accusation. That's a public accusation. They are misrepresenting our Lord publicly and it is several people who are doing this. Verse 23 says, and he called them to himself and began speaking to them in parables. So now Jesus is about to respond. How can Satan cast out Satan? Jesus says verse 24. If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. If a house is divided against itself, that house will not be able to stand. If Satan has risen up against himself and is divided, he cannot stand, but he is finished. But no one can enter the strong man's house and plunder his property, unless he first binds the strong man and then he will plunder his house. Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven to sons of men and whatever blasphemies they utter. But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of any eternal sin. Verse 30. Because, why did Jesus say this? Mark records it. Because they were saying he that is Jesus has an unclean spirit. Jesus right here in the text. Am I making this up? Jesus right here in the text responds to accusations to slander that he is a demon and is casting out devils or demons by the ruler of demons. Jesus didn't sit back and let that fly. He didn't sit back and let that ride. He responded to it. Let's look at John chapter 8. Maybe some, maybe some Alan Parr followers and subscribers may, may watch this and they need to be educated by this non-seminarian as yourself speaking here tonight. John 31, John, excuse me, 831 through 59. Let's look at the text. Let's look at the context. So Jesus was saying to those Jews who had believed in him, if you continue in my word, then you are truly disciples of mine and you will know the truth and the truth will make you free. They answered him. That is the Jews. We are Abraham's descendants and they have never been yet been enslaved to anyone. How is it that you say you will become free? Jesus answered them. Truly, truly I say to you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever. The son does remain forever. So if the son sets you free, makes you free, you will be free indeed. I know that you are Abraham's descendants yet you seek to kill me because my word has no place in you. Do you all see the defense? Do y'all see that Jesus is giving an apologia? He's giving a defense of his character and his work? Do y'all see that? Put up a one if you see it. Put up a two, say no, I don't see that. I was getting something to eat real quick. Jesus is defending himself against the very ones who claim that they are of Abraham's seed, Jews. He says, I know you are Abraham's descendants yet you seek to kill me because my word has no place in you. I speak the things which I have seen my father with my father. Therefore, you also do the things which you heard from your father. They answered and said to him, Abraham is our father. Jesus said to them, if you are Abraham's children, do the deeds of Abraham. But as it is, you are seeking to kill me. A man who has told you the truth which I heard from God. This Abraham did not do. You are doing the deeds of your father. They said to him, we were not born of fornication. We have one father, God. Jesus said to them, if God were your father, you would love me for I proceed forth and have come from God. For I have not even come on my own initiative, but he sent me. Why do you not understand what I am saying? Why do you not understand what I'm saying? It is because you cannot hear my word. You are of your father, the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies. But because I speak the truth, you not believe me. Which of you convicts me of sin? If I speak the truth, why do you not believe me? He who is of God hears the words of God. For this reason, you do not hear them because you are not of God. The Jews answered and said to him, do we not rightly say that you are a Samaritan and have a demon? Wait a minute, Allen. There's another accusation, sir. They're calling Jesus a Samaritan, a half-breed and a demon. What did Jesus do in verse 49 of John 8, Allen? Did Jesus not respond? Did Jesus be quiet? Did Jesus walk away and just started kicking up dust and sulking and putting his head down? No. Verse 49, Jesus answered. He responded, I do not have a demon, but I honor my father and you dishonor me. But I do not seek my glory. There is one who seeks and judges. Truly, truly, I say to you, if anyone keeps my word, he would never see that. The Jews said to him, now we know that you have a demon. Abraham died and a prophet's also. And you say, if anyone keeps my word, he would never taste of death. Surely you're not greater than our father Abraham who died. The prophets died too. Who do you make yourself out to be? Jesus answered. If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing. It is my father who glorifies me, of whom you say he is our God. And you have not come to know him, but I know him. And if I say that I do not know him, I will be a liar like you. But I do know him and keep his word. Your father Abraham rejoices to see my day and he saw it and was glad. The Jews said to him, you are not yet 50 years old and yet you have seen Abraham. Jesus said to them, truly, truly I say to you before Abraham was born, I am. Therefore, they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hit himself and went out of the temple. Now that's Jesus right there. I could have ended it with that. That's Jesus that mentions and defends himself, Alan. But you said that it's more Christ like when we don't. But we have God in flesh. Jesus Christ himself defending himself against attacks against slander against ridicule against the very ones who sought to kill him. And he said it in those texts. He said, you seek to kill me and I'm telling this truth. So Alan, once again, sir, you are wrong as two left shoes on an amputee. Jesus indeed did defend himself and defended himself when necessary. But wait a minute. Wait a minute. There's more. Let's look at one more text. John chapter nine, John chapter 18. Excuse me. John chapter 18. Y'all gonna love this one. Some of y'all may not even seen this one before. But let's make sure that all of us see it. John chapter 18 verses 19 to 23. Y'all all right? We good? We good? I hope so. The high priest then questioned Jesus about his disciples and about his teaching. Jesus answered them. Wait a minute. Jesus answered. Wait a minute. I thought according to Alan, Jesus should take the high road like Alan and not respond, not defend himself against false accusations. Jesus didn't get the memo. Maybe Jesus should have waited to Alan, Alan part of come on the scene because apparently Jesus don't get it. Jesus didn't watch your Jesus. You didn't watch Alan parts live where he said it is best to take the high road is best that he he sets the example on on not responding to people who try to destroy his name and character reputation and all that good stuff. Reverse 20 said Jesus answered them. I have spoken openly to the world. I always taught in synagogues and in the temple where all the Jews come together and I spoke nothing in secret. Jesus said I ain't got nothing to hide. I made it clear what I was about. Why do you question me? Question those who have heard what I spoke to them. They know what I said. When he said this, one of the officers standing nearby struck Jesus saying, is that the way you answered the high priest? Jesus answered him. If I have spoken wrong, testify of the wrong. But if rightly, why do you strike me? Do y'all see this? Do you all see this? Jesus said, hold up. If I send, show me book chapter verse where I send. But if I didn't, why did you hit me? Do y'all understand that if Jesus wanted to put hands on him, he couldn't. As a matter of fact, he don't have to say nothing. He could have said he could have did like he told Peter. Look, bro, I got a lead. I can call. I can call 12 leaders angels. Trust me. I can call down, reinforce me if I wanted to. And we can get this thing set off. We can get this whole party started if I wanted to, but Jesus didn't. But Jesus did defend himself, even though he was hit. He was assaulted. Verse 23, if I have spoken wrongly, if I have sinned, King James says, if I have spoken evil, bear witness of the evil. But if well, why smite is thou me? Why did you hit me? Why did you punch me? But according to Allen, it's Christ like not to respond. So I guess Jesus ain't Christ like. Let's look at some other examples. Let's look at the apostles. Shall we? Acts chapter five. I hope y'all are right. Acts chapter five in verse 27, start there. And when they had brought them, they stood them before the council. They was told not to preach about Jesus, and they did anyway. And so now they're summoned before the Jews. And when they had brought them, they stood them before the council. The high priest questioned them saying, we gave you strict orders not to continue teaching in this name. And yet you have filled Jerusalem with your teaching and intend to bring this man's blood upon us. But Peter and the apostles answered, we must obey God rather than man. Sound like a defense to me, Allen. I don't know what you think. First Corinthians chapter nine, verses one through five. Paul defends himself. Paul now is defending his apostleship against false accusations and false teachers who have come in and are now questioning the apostleship of the apostle Paul himself. Verse one. Am I not free? Am I not an apostle? Have I not seen Jesus our Lord? Are you not my work in the Lord? If to others I'm not an apostle, at least I am to you, for you are the seal of my apostleship in the Lord. My defense, my apologia to those who examine me is this. Do we not have a right to eat and drink? Do we not have a right to take along a believing wife, even as the rest of the apostles and the brothers of our Lord and Cephas? You see that, you see the question he's asking. He's making a defense. He's defending his character, his name, his reputation, his apostleship because he knows that these things came from God. And there are times, yes, there are times when defending oneself for the sake of ministry and for the sake of the influence that God has given to you are necessary and it is mandatory. And I'll say this as well. Don't let anybody tell you when you should or should not defend yourself when you know that God has given you a calling and a ministry to do something for his kingdom. And I'm telling you all that from experience. Sometimes getting advice from people who mean you well doesn't end well. I learned that lesson dealing with the mob. Sometimes trying to listen and follow the advice of those that you think may have your best interests at heart and they might, but you have to know what God has called you to do. And sometimes you may have to stand alone, but stand up, but stand alone anyway. And sometimes people may misunderstand you and not get what God has called you to do, but you know what God has called you to do. Do it. And sometimes God has a way of vindicating you sooner than later, but do it nonetheless. I'm just hoping that I'm helping somebody. And I'll just be honest with you, one of the biggest mistakes I made, one of the biggest mistakes I made was doing that response video that Corey and Sean Isaacs had wanted me to do. No shade, just being, just being transparent and being real with my brothers and sisters in Christ here on the chat. Just being real, just being real because in my heart of hearts, I didn't want to do it. And technically my wife didn't want me doing it because we've been, well, listen, we've been down this road. We've been around church folk enough to know that stuff like this, the mob would never be satisfied. They would never be satisfied. Even with a quarter pound of your cheese, they would never be satisfied. And they weren't. And neither was I going to admit anything that I did wrong because I didn't do anything wrong. They just didn't like what I did to their idol. But I regret doing that. But one thing that was a blessing came out of it. It helped me to get the support and the backing and the encouragement even more so from people that I didn't even know. And they saw behind the scenes and they saw how the enemy was using people to try to destroy what God was building. You can't destroy what God is building. You just can't. So I just say that Alan, you're not innocent in this, my friend. You're not innocent in this, my brother. You are guilty of allowing some of these things to happen. Now, again, I'm not calling you a false teacher, but I am saying, I am saying this, you need to repent. You need to make right what you have done wrong. You and Rouge line. I'm not letting it go. I'm not. My job is to sound the alarm. My job is to raise awareness. My job is to bring a biblical objective worldview to situations that we see that are going on public. My job is to challenge all of us to think biblically. We can't look at people's personality. We got to look at the pages of holy sacred writ and say, wait a minute, this person is affirming a heritage. When we started doing that, when we started building bridges, if anything, we were to blow bridges up so they don't cross over to the church. We don't establish thoroughfare for those who are treacherous and those who are ravenous wolves. We don't do that, but Alan is. Thank you for the super chat, brother. Thank you. But again, what do I know? But also you can see Paul and acts 22 through 26. He's defending himself in each one of those chapters. He's making a defense for his character, for his name, his reputation, because the gospel is at stake, but according to Alan, it's not Christ like to do so. And finally, number six, I choose to take the high road. Notice what it says here. Don't let evil conquer you, but conquer evil by doing good. You see, whenever you respond in negativity, what you're doing is that you are allowing someone else to control you by taking you out of your Christian character. They are taking you from a place of operating in the spiritual realm to now responding in a fleshly realm. You're letting somebody else dictate and control your character. The Bible says, don't let that evil control or conquer or overcome you, but rather conquer that evil by what? Doing good. So to say a whole lot more about your character if you just don't respond. And hopefully that answers the final question as to my reaction or my response to why I just choose not to respond to most, if not all of what people might choose to put out about me. Oh, well, listen, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just sharing y'all, I'm just sharing the receipts. That's all I'm doing. I'm just sharing the receipts. That's, that's it. I'll just give me all the receipts. Again, because this, this man is basically saying that it's not Christlike to respond. He's being like, Jesus, well, wait a minute, I just showed you that Jesus did respond. The apostles respond. They responded. Now we shouldn't, we shouldn't go, you know, I mean, every time we see somebody say somebody that's different, but, but come on now. I mean, come on. Come on. Bobby said, the sermon has always told me who's real. When most of them, Rouge line, Allen, Marcus, et cetera, speak. Nope. Jesus said, my sheep hear my voice. When I hear you say, go, yep, you're in the way. Praise God, man. Thank you. Praise God. Yeah, he did. Didn't Gary Allen just told on himself, why do you have to get in the flesh to respond? Why not be civil and respond? Oh, yo, my goodness. I told you, just let them talk. Sometimes just let people talk. They're telling themselves. Now, let me, let me, let me go back and let me go back down memory lane for a second. We're almost done. We're almost done. But I want to give you all some, some, some background. I hope my brother, I hope my brother Scott Newman is in, is in the chat. Brother Scott, if you still here, man, let me know in the chat, because I know you're one of the brothers that remember this. Cause as a matter of fact, I saw your comment to Allen Parr in one of the, in one of the threads a couple of years ago, and I ended up pulling the receipt over the weekend. But you, you probably remember this conversation. I don't know if anybody else does, but if you do feel free to affirm it, feel free to, to, to clarify. But I don't know how long you all been following Allen Parr's ministry. I don't know how long if some of you are still friends on Allen Parr's Facebook page or have been following any of his content or any of his commentary during the 2020 presidential election. How many of you, just for the sake of, of, of knowing and for the sake of record, how many of you recall or remember any of the posts or videos that Allen Parr made during the 2020 election when Trump and Joe Biden were vying for the, for the presidency? I'm not going to tell you my thoughts about it because to tell you my thoughts about it would get my channel struck down like it did before, but I think you all know where I'm going with that. However, I want to know what your thoughts were or if you remember or recall any of the statements, any of the conversations or comments, even videos that Allen Parr made regarding Trump supporters, Trump supporters, conservatives, Republicans, whoever. Sean and Lee said, I understand Parr not wanting to get into a bicker, but no video would have been, would have made him look a lot tougher than this one. Yo, Gary, he said, I left a comment on that video and asked Allen why he can't respond, why he charges $1,500 for a course. Wait a minute, hold on. This is, wait a minute. Are you all saying Allen did that? Oh, I thought there was this Marcus Rogers. This was Allen who did this? Come to think about that. I think there was. I think y'all, I think you're right, David. I think so Allen was the one who did this. Wow. I don't know why I thought that was, he was talking about Marcus, my fault, but yeah. It's still, it's still, that's grifting. That's grifting either way. That's grifting. That is definitely grifting. But yes, so let me get back to the question because we're almost done. So Shonda, you remember, you remember him making comments regarding Trump supporters and people who voted for Trump, right? You said he said consider character when voting, right? Okay. Okay. All right. So for those who may not know, for those who don't remember, I did a video response to Allen Parr when he basically tried to call me out on his channel, on his Facebook page, to be honest with you, on his Facebook page. What he did was he questioned the integrity of fellow believers who voted for Trump. And I'll tell you straight up, I voted for Trump. My wife and I voted for Trump. We didn't vote for him in 2016 because we didn't trust him. We didn't know we thought he was going to be a typical politician, though somebody that's going to make all these anti-promises. So we waited four years. And so when he ran for reelection in 2020, we voted for him. And I noticed a lot of Christians who claim that they didn't vote for Trump, which basically you only had two choices. If you didn't vote for Trump, and you didn't vote at all, or you voted for Biden. And I took serious issue with anybody else who was a Christian that voted for Biden, which is why a lot of them are still quiet and silent now. Can't find any of them. They're like, where's Waldo? Yeah, put out an umbrella on these so-called Christians who voted for Biden. But that's another topic for another time. But my point is, is that I kept watching and reading comments that Alan Parr would make regarding people who voted for Trump, or who were concerned. I mean, he would just, he was like dissing them, sneak dissing, questioning people's integrity and character. But I'll check it out. I'll check it out, Gary. I would definitely check it out. If you still have it up, I'll check it out, inbox it to me and I'll check it out. But my position still stands on it though. That's a griff move. And so what happened was, I responded to Alan Parr and I basically just checked them. I checked them. And in me checking him, he took down the video. I mean, he took down his post. He took down his post and then started trying to blast me and I said, well, look, bro, we can just come up and just have a conversation about it. And he didn't want to do that. He didn't want to do that. So he basically would make these, he made these statements and comments, tried to play victim and all of this other kind of stuff, right? And so I made a video in response to him. So I'm going to play it and let you guys hear what with the background of it. Then I'm going to share some receipts and then I'll let you all go. Alan Parr, I know you're not going to come up, but here's the reason why I tell you individuals like you and others when we have quote unquote dialogue discourse conversing online. Because number one, thoughts can't really be conveyed in the tone and in the spirit you wish to convey it all the time verbally via text like that. So it's best to always have a verbal conversation. I've given you my number on a few occasions, invited you on my live, invited you on my broadcast a few times. I've seen that you've invited people on your platform. I've seen you present your views regarding culture. Sometimes your views are weak, bro. Your views come off as SJW-ish, CRT-ish. But I'll let you move, I'll let you make your lane and do what you need to do. But when you call me brainwashed, when you claim that I'm brainwashed and say that it's sad that I'm brainwashed, because I don't agree with the narrative that the mainstream media is presenting and has presented regarding Trump, regarding Joe Biden, and you want to tell people that this just, we just need to move on. Just need to move on. That's not the issue, dude. That's not the issue at all. The issue is how do we as Christians help people who know that what they've seen is wrong? Helping people, particularly in the body of Christ, helping people understand that they're not crazy by what they've seen. But you want to call me brainwashed, but then when I say, hey man, let's come up, you want to play the weak role and backpedal. You throw your little rocks and hide your hand and you don't want to give people that you've made accusations to the benefit of the doubt to articulate their point and to have a biblical dialogue. So you all get the context on what set that whole situation in motion. Hope you did, okay? Because when I made that video, when I made that video, then that's when Alan Parr, that's when he tried to call me. Now, he publicly slandered me and called me brainwashed. Now remember, prior to him having, this was before he had 900,000, he had about 600,000 subscribers. So I'm looking at it from a place of influence and a place of people saying, well, wait a minute. So if Alan is calling this guy brainwashed for what he believes, and I need to stop avoiding him and leave him alone. And I wasn't going to let that lie. I wasn't going to let that just sit and just go and without checking it. So I made my video response. Now, in that video, did you see me attack this man? Did you see me come for this man's neck? Did you all? I'm seriously asking. I am seriously asking because I want to make sure that you all heard what I said in that video. So that way you can basically get to just on what went down and what took place and why this man to this very day does not want to come with me, does not want to see me. Paul, about this, thank you so much for the super chat. Thank you. You said you went to Talbot and I can tell you seminary that does not immunize you, that does not immunize you from being a heretic. Yeah, that's facts, brother. That's facts. So what I want to do now is I want to share with you all the text messages that I have that transpired, that came shortly after I made that video. So this is the first text message. This is this was in 2021. Okay, so this is this is back and this is two years ago in 2021. All right. This is Alan Parr. I know why I was when this happened to that. I was at H.E.B. I never forget I was walking the aisle at H.E.B. I saw him call me and I refuse their answer. I refuse to answer and y'all know why I refuse to answer. Let me see if you remember my philosophy that I believe is biblical. I believe is biblical. On why I refuse to have private conversations with people who make public accusations. How many, how many of you all know my philosophy that I believe comes from the scriptures regarding that? If you do put it up in the in the chat and then I'll populate and if not remind me and then I'll show you all the scripture and hopefully y'all won't forget it when y'all have people try to sneak this you all and make shots publicly, but they won't have private clandestine conversations that you know what to tell them what to get off that too. So, but this is Alan Parr. This is January, January 9th, 2021. I was at H.E.B. walking the aisle making groceries with my wife. He says, Alan Parr says, quote, this is the epitome of complete disrespect. And as a brother in Christ, you should repent and you know you should posting my response to you so that all of your friends can gang up on me to make yourself feel better. It's just low ball, bro. Does this sound like a martyr to y'all or what? He says, however, I would not stoop to your level. You came on my post, he says, and shared your thoughts, which I can respect, but to take my response and create a separate post is immature and low and deep down in your spirit. You know that now ask for Alan to show the post that he took down because all I did was copy and pasted his statement and made my own comment rebuking him publicly for calling people like me brainwashed for voting for Trump. But then you, but he says in the text message that I'm, that what I did was low and that I caused people to gang up on him. Do you see, do you see this, this, this weak mentality that, that is among so-called men these days? But let me continue with his rest of the text message. He says, the Bible says we are not to debate and quarrel, which is why I'm not going to go there with you publicly. The Bible don't see that. See, that's, that's, anyway, let me, let me continue. It ain't like I have never read it before, but I want you all to see what he said. He said the Bible says we are not to debate and quarrel, which is why I'm not going to go there with you publicly. I wouldn't, it would not turn out good for either of us. And the result of such a discussion would not overturn the results of the election. I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish here with your post, but it's contributing to further divide. And I refuse to be a part of it. I really do wish you the best, bro. And God bless you, but this is low. And if you have the spirit of God in you, I think over time, not right now, because you are still angry at everything. You reflect back and say, man, I should not have posted Brother Parr's comment on my page. It's a public comment. We may not agree politically, but he's doing the Lord's work. And now I'm responsible for encouraging people to unsubscribe from his platform, which is 99% about Bible and 1% politics. But I'll let the Lord deal with you on that. Once again, God bless you, bro. This is sad. So I said, same day, January 9th. I said, so let me get this straight. I'm supposed to repent for commenting on your page about something you said publicly, but it's cool for you to character bash me by calling me brainwashed. BCV, I'll wait. Make sure, I'm sorry, I said, you sure are one sensitive dude, bro. What grown man winds to another grown man about virtual people disagreeing with him? Excuse me, ganging up on you. Man, get over yourself and grow up. No one's ganging up on you. Seems to me the only thing you're concerned about is a gang of followers unsubbing you and your bank account taking our direct hit. Also, you can miss me with the cycle, babble, bro. I'm not angry at anything. But if I were, I'd be justified as so-called Christians minimizing and dismissing golly precepts and principles for the sake of color or cultural and political expediency. Taking time out of my day to converse with you wouldn't be beneficial at this point. I said, besides your slander against me was perpetrated against me publicly. I suggest you start there and repent publicly. So remember, I asked you all the question about reason why I do not have public conversations with people who make I mean, yeah, the reason why I don't have a private conversation, excuse me, with those who make public accusations is because of that versus scripture right there. Acts chapter 16 verses 35 to 37 when Paul and Paul and Silas were beaten and the magistrates wanted to take them out the back door. Paul says, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. They're not taking us out nowhere. We don't come out the same way we came in out the front. You're not going to beat us publicly humiliate us and shame us and have us look like rigged guilty and then want to try to scurry us on out the back door so nobody don't know what happened. No, no, no, you're going to take it out the same way that y'all took us in. That's the principle behind that ladies and gentlemen. You don't let people get away with public accusations against your character and then you want to have private conversations to resolve it. No, no, you don't do that. Am I making sense? I hope I am. And so he responds later in the text. He said, that's why I was calling you because this behavior is childish on both sides on both ends. I figured we'd talk it out, but if you're not willing to, I can respect that. Once again, God bless. I wanted to call and apologize. We don't know each other and I figured we talked it. If we talked, we could get to know one another. It would curtail some of this. And so I said this and I'll show the rest of the comment. I said, there's nothing childish on my end about it, brother, for a seminary grad of yourself and a teaching fellow exposit of the word. I'd assume you'd be mature enough to recognize your sin when confronted about it. Let me give you the rest of the comment. I said, I assume you'd be more mature enough to recognize your sin when confronted about it, but now you wish to deflect and blame shift instead of take accountability for your actions. Public confession and repentance is in order, brother. I pray you humble yourself and employ that. This is all the same day. I said, if you're, he says, uh, I said, if you're wanting to apologize, why aren't you willing to do so publicly since you sinned publicly? Then he said, all right, brother, if you feel you are 100% correct in how you handle this situation by posting my post and going live and calling me out by name, then that's fine, man. I was just calling to put this to rest because it has been brewing for too long, but no worries, man. I'll confess on my end. He says he said he confessed on his end, right there. He says, I'll confess on my end to the Lord. I'll confess on my end to the Lord and I'll pray for you, your ministry and your family. God bless, bro. Do y'all see that? Do y'all see this? I want to make sure y'all see what this dude is doing. Yeah, yes, he was petty. Yes, he was petty. Oh man, bro, David, you know, you know, if you would have took that call he had, he would have, yes, he would have denied it. Yeah, he would have denied it, but little do you know, I would still would have had him. Y'all know what I mean by that. So then I, then he, uh, make sure I got the right one. Okay, yes, here we go. So then he says, all right, bro, I can say more, but God bless, man. And no, I'm not concerned about people unsubbing. It happens all the time. The Bible says to reach out in private and that is what I did. If you don't want to speak, then that's on you. Once again, God bless and I wish you the best. I said, no, sir, you may want to brush up on your conflict resolution skills biblically. Scripture teaches us when we send publicly against others, the scope of our confession must equate the scope of our sin. Acts 16, 35 to 37, Luke 17, three and four, Galatians chapter two, verse 11 through 14. I said, your sin against me wasn't private and pardon the blurriness because I had to try to take the picture off my other phone is on my old phone. I said, your sin against me wasn't private. Therefore, neither should your confession be as our Lord is eager and ready to forgive us when we confess and repent from our sin. So am I when you're ready to do the same. So for people who want to act like I just attack people and all this other kind of stuff, I'm showing y'all receipts. I'm providing receipts. This is the reason ladies and gentlemen, why people like Alan Parr and Ruslan at all don't want to have public conversations when they do stupid stuff like affirm heretics like Margaret Rogers, Margaret Rogers. It can be both private and public. If you wish for it to be both private and public, I just choose to deal with it the way I see the pattern of scripture. Nope, not going to keep nothing between me and him when he's slandering and lying and see that's the problem. I don't have to keep nothing between me and anybody when they have publicly publicly lied and slandered and misrepresenting my name. Now, y'all can do what y'all want to do. Not over here. Not over here. And let me ask you this question Seaway or Seaway. Let me ask you this. Let me ask you and liberating truth. Hume me just for a second. Hume me for just a second. Okay. What if your life was was on was at risk? In other words, you were taken to court and depending on the evidence you have could either exonerate you or straight up exterminate you, get rid of you in your life, death penalty, life in prison. And you know that the person who is lying on you, you have evidence to clear your name. Now I'm asking you to be consistent liberating truth in Seaway. I'm asking both of you to be consistent with this. What would you do if you know that you have evidence to clear your name and to keep you from spending life in prison or to have your life taken away because somebody lied because by the way, ladies and gentlemen, we do know that although the criminal justice system that we have in this country is probably by far the best in the world flaws and all people have been killed unfairly, unjustly, because they don't have the resources and because they don't have proper defense. How many of you would agree with that? I'm just asking. How many of you would agree with that? Just asking. I'm asking. David, David rector feels me. How many of you would? Oh, you would, huh? You, of course I will provide evidence and tell you, but wait a minute, but you said, make sure I get what you said earlier though, Seaway, because you said here, let me make sure I pull up the right receipt now. Yeah, you said you should have kept those texts between you and them. Is that still your final answer? Because here's one about to go with this. Here's one about to go with this. I'm about to hit every last one of you who think I should have taken the high road. I mean, every last one of you and your spiritual snot locker. Why is it? Why is it that when it comes to criminal charges that can cost us our life or livelihood? Oh, we're willing to seem like Luther, Gerald Levert, Johnny Gill, Tevin Campbell, Stokely for Men Condition, Casey and JoJo, Marvin Winans, Marvin Gaye. Why is it when it's criminal and it may cost me my life? Oh, yeah, we need to go through every and go through all the stops to prove our name. But in the spiritual, oh, let the Lord fight our battle. Why don't you let the Lord fight your battle when you go into the courtroom? When your name is no longer Seco Woods, it's the defendant. See, I try to be consistent with myself. That's just me. If I'm going to go hard for my freedom in the natural, oh, I'm definitely going hard for my freedom in the spiritual. But it wasn't, sir. It wasn't. Did you not read the text messages? Show me in the text message where this man admitted what he did was wrong. He said, I call to apologize. Do it publicly. Because if you did it publicly, liberating truths, where's the receipt? He said, I'm gonna do it to the Lord. I'm gonna go before the Lord and apologize. Wait a minute, but you didn't, you didn't, you didn't just sin against God. You sin against a fellow brother. You publicly slandered a fellow brother. So I'm just asking, how did he help? How did he help? See, what I'm giving is principles. I'm giving you all biblical principles behind this. That's what I'm, that's what I'm striving to do. Okay. So, but, but, but there's more to the story. Okay. There's more to the story. Because remember early in the, in the, in the live, I asked you all the question, is Alan Parfos teaching? Okay, we established that he's not, but is he a traitor? Is he a traitor? Is he a Trojan horse? Is he a Trojan horse? Is he a sellout? Although he has almost a million subscribers and the majority of his stuff is right. It doesn't matter, y'all. None of that, none of that matters is what you're doing now. How are you causing people to follow Christ? Now is the question. And then on top of that, what are you and I going to do when people like Alan Parfos and Ruslan affirm and protect and cape for heretics? Because if you're not going to do anything, then we're wasting our time. Stop talking to me about everybody else. And we're not going to deal with the same ones that's causing the problems in God's house. That's all I'm saying. But anyway, let's go back into a little bit of history. Remember when Alan Parfos invited Marcus Rogers on his channel? I was there. I watched that thing live. I was there. And I'm pretty sure most of you were there too. So some of you all remember what I'm about to show you. And if you remember, then maybe you'll see why I'm holding to the position that I hold to until Alan Parfos repents. Marcus, how you doing, man? Are you here with us? Yes, Pat. I appreciate you for having me. Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. Thank you, my brother, Mike, my brother. All right. Now, I want you all to hear what he just said. Okay, because this is going to be important. This is going to be important. I don't want you, I don't want you thinking that I'm being petty or I'm trying to make an issue out of out of something that's not an issue. No, no, no. I want you to hear what Alan Parfos has called this man, because this is going to, this is going to matter later on in the lives. Yes, guys. So let me, let me start off with word of prayer. Okay. Because anytime you have brothers that come together, discuss the word, it is always a good thing to start with a word of prayer. Heavenly Father, I thank you so much for this day. I give you praise, honor, glory. I thank you for Marcus today. Thank you for his heart. Thank you for his love for you. God, I thank the Lord for his love for, for you. I pray that you would allow us to have a good candid conversation today. I pray that your word would go forth and I pray that humility would be something that we would both find ourselves clothed in, Lord, as we discuss some, some topics that we may not see eye to eye on, but at the end of the day, Lord, you reign supreme. So God, I thank you for what you're doing in his life and his family's life. And, and I pray that you, how can you thank the Lord for, for doing what he's doing in his, in his life? I mean, this is, this is why I'm saying this is deceptive. This is, this is causing people to believe that this man is truly a follower of Christ, that the Lord has his hand on this man's ministry. He doesn't, he doesn't, I'm not, I'm not understanding why you are thanking God for a heritage that you think and believe is a brother. Do y'all remember that? Do y'all remember that? Pretty sure you did. How does that affect you all hearing that now? You know, two to three years later. How does that, how does that shake you up? How does that move you? I'm just curious to know. Did y'all have, did y'all, do y'all have any problem with what, what you heard in that video? Does anybody, does anyone have a problem with what you heard in that video? You see, my concern is for people who are not discerning, which is, which is a lot of people in Christendom today, a lot. Remember, Allen Parr has almost now to this date, 1 million followers, 998,000 subscribers. When he puts up videos, it gains views and clicks and follows and subs, which means he gets money off of this. How does that affect you? That should anger you and piss most of us off to see this type of deception before our very eyes. And then to make matters worse, to try to control what people say in the comments is what Allen did as well too. So now that you pray with an heritage, now that you, does he pray with the heretic, but then he continues to call this heretic a brother and defender. I still have my concerns about brother Marcus Rogers and some of his past videos. Again, he calls him brother Marcus Rogers. I want to know, is this generic or is this a redemptive term that he's using? We'll find out. Hopefully we'll see some differences coming in the future, but all of us are going to meet people where we're going to have those, those feelings, right? Like I don't know if this person, you're going to have to make a choice, the same choice that I had. Are you going to build a barrier towards this person, shun them, talk about them, push them out of your life, ostracize them, ignore them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, false teachers. Yeah, yeah, we're supposed to. That, I mean, hey, Paul, what you say to Titus over here in the third chapter? What you say to Titus, Paul? I maybe, maybe we didn't get that letter. I don't know. Let's see. Hmm. But shun foolish controversies and genealogies and strife and disputes about the law for they are profitable and worthless. Reject the factious man after a first and second warning, knowing that such a man is perverted and is sinning, being self-condemned. Shun, did you say shun? Did you say reject? Went to avoid these people? Went to, went to stiff arm them? That's what we're supposed to do, Paul. That don't sound loving. That doesn't sound christian-y. He still was calling him brother, right? And then making excuses for him. Then making excuses for him. And that was, that was the, that was the concern that I have. Just one of them, one of many, one of many. Because again, this is the same guy that's telling you and I that, hey, hey, you know, I'm here to build a bridge. And if I'm here to build a bridge, then that's, that's, that's all that matters. Building, building bridges. So if that's all that matters is building bridges, then your concern and your objective is greater than God's. Alan, I'm confused. I'm confused. So what I did was trying to be gracious, trying to be respectful and all of that. I reached out to Alan via text message. Once again, this was after the first incident. Okay. This was after the first incident. And so it wasn't me trying to come for his neck or anything like that. Not at all. Not at all. It was, it was me out of concern, out of concern of why he made this statement of being more concerned about a heretic than he is about protecting the body of Christ, protecting the sheep from wolves. And so let me share with you the text messages that I had with him. And these are the same text messages I shared before in that same video that you saw, but I wanted to put it up on the screen so that way you can get a clearer view of it. So here are the first texts I had. This was December the 11th. Okay. December the 11th of, I think this was 2021. Matthew, this is shortly after the election. This is shortly after the election. I said, good morning, brother. This is me to Alan Parr. Just finished watching the interview you did with Marcus. I wanted to watch it again and make sure I heard everything that was said during your dialogue with him. So there were no misunderstandings from what I heard watching it live. Although I appreciate your desire to dialogue with Marcus. I'm deeply concerned about your affirming Marcus as a fellow brother in Christ during your live conversation with him. Both of your platforms are huge, but particularly yours as a Christian, which can cause others who follow and support you to now believe Marcus while openly denying salvation by faith and trust in Christ alone and denying the Trinity. Two major essentials of the Christian faith is now a brother in Christ, which is dangerously misleading. As a fellow brother, I'm concerned that your affirmation of Marcus, though may be well intentioned, may have done more harm than good brother. Marcus Rogers and Brandon Tatum both embrace the same beliefs regarding salvation, the Trinity and the eternality of the sun and shouldn't be affirmed, but avoided. Brandon Tatum and Marcus Rogers were both on a live together. I don't know if y'all saw this one. I couldn't stomach to watch it, but both of them had a live stream together and they were both affirming their motorless and oneness teachings, denying the eternality of the sun, denying the Godhead, Father, Son, and Spirit, believing you can lose your salvation, believing that if you're not baptized, you're not saved. On and on and went. But you affirm a heretic and say that he's a brother and claim to build bridges with him, not caring of how your affirmation is causing those who are impressionable, those who are undercerning, naive, and gullible to believe your position and view regarding a heretic, Alan. I'm no fool to believe that 998,000 subscribers all have their doctrine all in the line and in a row of sound biblical teaching can't impossible. And so do you. You don't believe that question is, do you care? So I said, I plan to make a response to the video Lord willing this weekend. As you and Marcus stated in your video, we should be willing to dialogue and have conversations with those we disagree with publicly and respectfully. Therefore, if you're not too busy this weekend, I like to invite you on my broadcast to discuss your video and to have an open and honest conversation about it. I know we've had our differences recently, but this issue, I believe needs to be addressed in a public form. So others in the body can glean and grow from it. Now, is that a, is that an unreasonable, is that an unreasonable request? I'm asking you in the chat, I'm asking you in the comments, was that an unreasonable request? I mean, you reached out to Marcus, you had a conversation with Marcus. And I'm pretty sure you had a conversation with other people whose platforms are far bigger than mine, which I know now, based on your testimony, based on your statement in the video, you don't associate with the lowly, the lowly folk, people like me. I don't have, I don't have six figure subs. Don't need it. If I get it, praise God, but I'm going to be faithful with the high remaining subscribers that Lord gives me because I know what I'm doing is trying to spread the truth and to make the gospel applicable and show how the gospel affects every facet of our lives. Gary, your math is crazy. You said, yes, it was unreasonable because you're 493,000 subs short. Oh man, y'all go ahead and follow my man, Gary, Gary's channel, Gary828 on YouTube. Then Alan Parr responded. He said, Hey brother, feel free to make any response video you feel the Lord is leading you, but I will be unable to fulfill that request for quite some time for variety reasons. I am not accepting any podcasts or interviews of any kind until I finish a huge project that I'm working on for next year. Also, I do not affirm Marcus Rogers at all. This is what he said. Maybe we all are reading this wrong, but let's continue. I do not affirm Marcus Rogers at all. That was the reason for my original video about Christian YouTubers that you should avoid without mentioning his name. People knew that I was referring to channel such as his. Well, why not just say it? Anyway, never mind. With that being said, I personally would not go as far as to say he's not a Christian. Do y'all still think I'm wrong for calling this man a traitor? Do y'all still think I'm wrong for calling this man Alan Parr, a traitor, a Trojan horse, a grifter, a compromiser, a sell out, a bailom, just asking. He said, I personally would not go as far as to say he's not a Christian, even though I know he denies some core beliefs that the church has held near and dear. Here comes the double speak. When I refer to him as a brother, that's just a general term, not referring to any sort of affirmation of his salvation or his ministry. I hope that provides a little bit more clarity. Yeah, it's kind of clear like mud. It's kind of clear like crude oil. That's how clear Alan's statement is because he just said I personally would not go as far as to say he's not a Christian, even though I know he denies some core beliefs that the church has held near and dear, then why not call him an unbeliever? Amen. Thank you. Because I was thinking about mentioning his name too. Rest in peace, brother, the fall Ali. He drowned right after Marcus baptized him. Marcus said he wasn't saved for getting baptized in the name of the father, son and Holy Spirit, but gone, gone but never forgotten. So you all see this? He said I wouldn't go as far as not to say he's a Christian, even though I know he denies some core beliefs. I want to remind y'all what he said now. Y'all should have the same disgust and angst that I have. You should. But then he, so he says that I said this to him. I said, thanks, brother. I understand. However, I do recall you've made references to Marcus being a brother in Christ in your interview with him yesterday and in other videos as well. So I'm confused as to what you're not affirming. Again, this isn't an attack. Just trying to understand your position regarding Marcus. So again, did I attack this brother? I'm asking y'all. Did I, did I attack this brother? Did I, did I come for this brother's neck? Did I do anything of the, of the sort to make this man feel uneasy and unnerved? Now remember, ladies and gentlemen, remember this man, he's a DTS grad. Okay, so that means his, his understanding of the text should, should far surpass mine, right? Well, let's see. Let's see how he handles why he still wants to build bridges with Marcus Rodgers, because in fact, he did a response video to people, one of many, one of a couple of response, excuse me, one of a couple of response videos on why he did the interview with Marcus and why he wants to continue building bridges with Marcus Rodgers. Really, I had two choices. Choice number one was to jump on the bandwagon and bash this brother and put him down and drag his name through the mud. Brother again. And let me just say from somebody who has been down at some point in my life, from somebody who has made mistakes in my life, and I've been ostracized, I've been talked about, have people, you know, drag my name in the mud for different things. It doesn't feel very good, right? So I had that choice. I could have just been like, Hey, you know what, this brother is a false prophet. He's no good. God doesn't have a plan for his life and all of these things. Or I could have reached out to the brother and really tried to form a relationship with him. Essentially, what I want you to get from this video is this. I could have built a bridge towards him or I could have built a barrier towards him. And I want to draw your attention to something in the scriptures that I really, really want us to all get. And that's Acts chapter nine. So you may recall that the apostle Paul had a history, a past of persecuting Christians, persecuting the church. And so after he had his Damascus Road experience, where Jesus basically became the Lord of his life, he had trouble trying to integrate himself into the Christian culture. I want you to read about it. It says here, when he, speaking of Paul, came to Jerusalem, he tried to join the disciples, but they were all afraid of him, not believing that he really was a disciple. So you can imagine, here's the apostle Paul, who wrote more than half of the New Testament, had this conversion experience. He tries to come in and say, Hey guys, yo, what's up, man? I'm Paul, the apostle. I want to hang out with you guys. I want to be in the end crowd. And they were like, nah, bruh, I'm sorry, man. Look, we heard about you. So what, but, but, but Alan, hmm. So are you saying, Alan, that Marcus Rogers is like the apostle Paul who, who God truly converted, truly saved, truly redeemed, and who has now come into the church and who the Bible says, uh, in verse 19 of, of Acts nine. Now for several days, he was with the disciples who were at Damascus and immediately he began to proclaim Jesus in the synagogues. Are you saying that that's what Marcus Rogers is doing? Are you comparing the conversion of Paul to a pseudo conversion of a false teacher in a heretic like Marcus Rogers? Alan, is that what you're doing? Let's see. But wait, he's not done. Do you believe that was exegesis or isegesis? Just want to, I just want to know. Do you believe what, what Alan Parr just presented was exegesis that he drew from the text? He drew out from the text with the text said. Oh, do you believe that Alan Parr committed isegesis, that he put what he wanted to do into the text. He, he must, he, he put what he thought and what he believes the text was saying. He inserted his view into the text. Which one do you believe? You better believe it was ISO. You better believe it. You better believe it. You better believe it. But now this is the DTS grad. Just want to make sure y'all know that. This is Mr. DTS himself, but he's not done. Here's more. Know about you. We've seen you, right? We've seen you persecute the church and persecute Christians. Like we don't want to have anything to do with you. We're going to build a barrier towards you, Paul. But I want you to notice there was one man who believed in Paul and his name is Barnabas. Look at the next verse. But Barnabas took him and brought him to the apostles. He told them how Saul on his journey had seen the Lord and that the Lord had spoken to him and how in Damascus he had preached fearlessly in the name of Jesus. So do you see this? Here's Paul being ostracized because of his past, because of mistakes that he's made by church people, people in the church. But Barnabas believed in Paul. Barnabas saw the best in Paul. Oh, I get it. So you got your Marvin Sappone. So, okay. So he saw the best in me. That's what you're doing now, Alan. You see the best in the heretic, apart from what the scripture says, on how we are to deal with heretics and deal with false teachers. This is why I laid out, I laid out the text. I gave you Ephesians 5, 11. I gave you Matthew 7th, I mean 15th or 16th. I gave you the epistles. I gave you First Timothy. I gave you Titus. I gave you all of that to show you how we are to deal with heretics, how we are to deal with false teachers. Dealing with a person like Paul, who people may have been reticent toward because they didn't know if he was genuinely saved. It's totally different than a person like a Marcus Rogers, whose teachings everybody and a mama can see is not biblical. It is a false gospel. It is heresy. And are you telling me, Alan, that this man that you are doing a video about is comparing to Paul? Come on, come on, Alan. Brother, I didn't go to seminary. You did. But the years I've studied in Bible college and the years I've studied the Word of God, I may not be the sharpest pencil in the box, but I know how to read. I know context. Reading comprehension, I can pretty much hope my own. So you spent all this money in seminary and this is what you bring back? I say, Jesus, I best hoped that Paul was going to be all that God had called him to be. And so because of that, Barnabas took all alongside and said, Hey, I want to introduce you to the church. I want to introduce you to the disciples. Barnabas decided to build a bridge towards Paul when everybody else was trying to build a barrier towards Paul. And that's all I'm trying to say y'all is listen, I am in the process right now of building a bridge towards brother Marcus Rogers. Did you hear what he just said? Brother Marcus Rogers. I don't want you thinking that I'm making this up. How many times have you heard this term used by this man regarding a heretic, a false teacher? I mean, if that's the case, then so are Catholics. So are Muslims, our brothers. They don't believe in the biblical Jesus. They don't believe that salvation is by grace to faith alone and Christ alone. They don't believe in that. So what makes them any different than Marcus Rogers, Alan? So as we get ready to close, let's bring the most current video that we have regarding Alan Parr and his affiliation, his affirmation or or renunciation of Marcus Rogers. Shall we? Because I want to be fair. Unless there is a video, unless there is content, unless there is a statement that Alan Parr has produced prior to this video that I'm about to show you tonight, that he has no longer affirmed, no longer does he believe Marcus Rogers is a Christian and that he should be avoided? Not, you shouldn't watch his videos or not someone whose ministry you should support. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't support Alan Parr. I consider him a sellout. I consider him a traitor. But and I would consider him, if he doesn't repent, a so-called brother, according to 1 Corinthians 5, a pseudodelfos, a fake brother. If he is still holding to this position that Marcus Rogers is a Christian, a fellow brother in Christ, that he will continue to build a bridge with him, to hell with everyone else and what God says, then I'm going to treat him as the word of God says I'm going to treat him as a so-called brother. And I encourage you to do the same as well too. So let me share my screen. Here we are right here. This was dated a year ago. His current video, his latest video rather, regarding this, regarding this issue, Marcus Rogers, should we build a bridge or a barrier? All right, let's see what he says regarding his relationship, building bridges, bridge, bridge building with a heritage. Let's go. With every single person that you will ever meet in life, you will have a decision to make. Am I going to build a bridge towards this person or build a barrier? That was the decision that I had to make with regards to Marcus Rogers. Now, if you're not familiar, a little while back, I invited Marcus Rogers on my YouTube channel to do a live stream together to discuss some of his theology. And as a result, a lot of people roasted me because I called Marcus Rogers a brother and I did not openly call him a false teacher. Now, let me be clear. There are points of his theology that I firmly disagree with. I do not agree with the types of videos that he puts out with regards to saying, God told me this and a dream. God told me that I'm pulling snakes out of people's backs and things like that. I don't agree with his position on the baptism of the Holy Spirit and tongues being the evidence of speaking in tongues. I don't agree with his position on the Trinity. And I'm sure there are other points of theology that we would disagree with. But the decision that I had to make is am I going to choose to build a barrier towards Marcus Rogers or am I going to choose to build a bridge towards him? So in this video, I want to share with you why I chose am choosing currently and will continue to choose to build a bridge towards Marcus Rogers rather than erecting a barrier. Now, so you heard what he said, right? You heard what he said. He is going to continue to build a bridge with Marcus Rogers. And he gives his little weak answers and weak reasons that he did in the other video that he had. So I want to go ahead and scroll and go to the marker where he holds and he gives his final conclusion to this whole ordeal. 14-minute mark. And we're going to wrap this up and I'm going to let y'all make it. All right. So and if y'all seeing this, you already know what his conclusion is, but I want to have this on record and in the reason why I am telling you all how he used to be rebuked, Alan Parr and why we should not support his channel because he's supporting a wolf and considers to build a bridge with a wolf. So let's go us barriers. So continue to say what you want to say with regards to my decision not to cut Marcus Rogers completely out and to shame humiliate and put this man down. Listen, that's fine. If you want to continue to do it, if you want to make a follow video on this one, that is fine as well. But what I'm going to continue to do not only with Marcus, but with other people is to build a bridge. So that you have it ladies and gentlemen, he will continue to do what God says not to do. We don't see, we don't see in scripture where we're to build bridges with heretics. Do you? Do we find anywhere in scripture that we're to do that? I don't think we do. Matter of fact, I know we don't. I know we don't. But yet Alan Parr, he believes that we do and doesn't care what the word of God says. And this is why I said that he is a traitor. He's a sellout. And anyone else who rocks with him, you are complicit in his own sin. If you're not going to call this man out, you're not going to start hitting these people where it hurts. Then what does that say about your integrity? What does that say about your character? We just let wolves and spiritual pedophiles come in and molest the sheep for profit, for numbers, for subs, for likes, for follows. Why? Are we going to be faithful watchmen on God's wall and stand guard until he returns? I'm going to do the latter. I don't know about you all. So me saying people had no problem marketing and avoiding me because I called on MacArthur and called out these people that were leading God's people astray. They're quiet and a rat pissing on cotton when it comes to people like this. So I'm done for the night. Just wanted to share this information with you all. Lord willing, I believe maybe tomorrow, I'll let you all know. I'll let you all know. We're going to we're going to address and deal with Alexander Pagani between tomorrow, if not Wednesday, Thursday the latest, but maybe it may be tomorrow. The Deliverance Ministry, Deliverance Ministry Pack. Pagani's Deliverance Ministry Pack. Yes, he has a Deliverance Ministry Pack. If you're a demon possession, you need devils cast out of you, then he has he has a Deliverance Ministry Pack, but you must fill out in order to have those demons exercise from your spirit. Yes. I know, I know, Rob Robbs. Let me get it. Let me let y'all go on, get on home and and get on the bed. 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