 That's great. Yeah, new peeps. Yeah, I feel like we're getting more emails from new peeps, too. Good. I also noticed that Well I'll need control when you get a chance. Oh shoot. Yeah, you're right I'm gonna have to do with my hairline. Is that what you're gonna? You know, there's a spray that I've seen Brian Cooley use I won't let it on this secret. I don't know if he uses that anymore. That was 10 years ago I remember it's like wait a minute. What is he doing? It was like it's it basically the same kind of spray that you spray on On something shiny to make it matte except for your head Sarah's green screen is back to normal. Yes Well folks, I don't know What you've been told You've been told never slowed down. Oh Never grow old. I think Penny Lane every time I think of Sarah You aren't the only one. I'm sure that's nothing new for you a lot of pennies and a lot of Lois's Yeah, I think Sarah smile hollow notes. No, that's not bad. That's Sarah without an H So it doesn't count. Oh, right. I keep forgetting that I keep making that mistake I I pretend that bothers me Nobody doesn't oh, no, it's just a thing All the Fleetwood Mac Sarah songs also no age because I think like someone's daughter, you know There's just how they spelled it and you know, so I'm like, what is the deal? Sarah by Starship. No, age. Hmm. How about a nobody doesn't like Sarah Lane? But they're Lee normally Also, no age. Oh nobody does it like Sarah Lane also I mean, you know how like the Baron stain bears. There's that whole like everyone remembers that the wrong way type thing. Yeah, yeah Very similar because it's like nobody does it like Sarah Lee is a better slogan than the real one Which is nobody doesn't like I know I know that's what I thought it was this is so you said it right Scott I was doing the wrong. Yeah, it's a Mandela effect thing. It's always fun to find those It's like when when Sinbad was in that one movie Yeah, it's supposed to be in a Genie in the bottle movie, right? Yeah All right, we are ready to go. Are you ready to go so ready? I'm ready ready check Here we go three two Daily Tech News show is powered by you. Yes you you're doing it right now If you'd like to find out how go to Daily Tech News show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech News for Wednesday October 4th 2017 I'm Tom Merritt from our DT S headquarters in Los Angeles and from studio feel I'm Sarah Lane And from the silicon slopes of Salt Lake City. I'm Scott Johnson. I got you to say silicon slopes. I'm so happy Of course DT S producer Roger Chang here as well Roger. How are you feeling? I am feeling well the talking webpage. Well, then let's start with a few tech things you should know European Commission says Ireland has failed to collect up to 13 billion euros in taxes from Apple And therefore has referred the case to the European Court of Justice Ireland says we're appealing that decision What are you doing? Meanwhile in Luxembourg the EC says Amazon got illegal tax benefits worth 250 million euros while current European president Yonker was in charge of Luxembourg And better news at least if you have a sonor speaker or want to buy a new one the company's announced It's going to support Amazon voice services aka Alexa on the new sonos one speaker and available to the public now though It is still in beta now if you have an older sonos model You're still gonna need to control it by another device like the echo because older models don't have integrated microphones Well deep mind who's always watching us announce the formation of deep mind ethics and society or D M E S DMS I don't know if they want to say it that way the study and published research on topics like AI bias the economic impact of Automation making sure AI shares our ethical and moral values and so on sounds like that episode of Star Trek destiny Tom What are our ethics and moral values that we would like them to share? I think is a good question, too HP announced a new specter 13 laptop. It's new and improved so it's got a 4k touch screen now That's kind of cool as well as Intel's 8th gen Kaby Lake processors starting at one thousand two hundred ninety nine dollars October 29th HP also updated the 13-inch specter X 360 hybrid It adds a fingerprint reader starting at a thousand one hundred forty nine dollars October 29th as well Well, would you like to hear some more top stories? I would love that good because I've got some In fact, we all do Google announced two new phones today the pixel 2 and the 2x L Both have OLED displays snapdragon 835 processors for gigs of RAM and Lots of other stuff too each pixel also has active edge So you can squeeze them to activate Google assistant or silence an incoming call the camera got a 98 for DXO That beats iPhone score of 94 and actually sets a new record for quality So that's something that Google can crow about anyway The pixel 2 has a five inch screen with a 1080p display comes in three colors runs $649 for the 64 gig version 749 for the 128 gig version the pixel 2x L also well has a six inch screen rather with a 2080 by a 1440 display a nice thin bezels for people who are bezel haters Seems to be a lot of them these days available in two colors 849 for the 64 gig version and 949 for the 128 gig version pre-orders are open now for Australia Canada Germany India the UK and the US shipping October 17th on deck for the next round is Singapore Italy and Spain The Pixel phones will also be the first with Google lens preview that's coming out later this year So Google spent a good 28 minutes before they announced anything this morning and what they were hammering away at is We are really good at AI We love the AI and we're building AI into things and look what AI does And I think that has to do with the fact that while these pixel phones are very nice When you look at all these hardware specs, nothing really jumps out at me as as being fantastic It's on par, you know in some cases better Obviously, they've done another great job with the photo with the camera part of this because they they they set the standard with that DxO rating last year with the first pixel and they got beaten a couple of times most recently by the iPhone and the Samsung galaxy s8 But but now they're back in front So it takes really good pictures, but it is increasingly becoming what the software can do that is the differentiating factor here Well, isn't that kind of where mobile is headed generally speaking? Oh, this is what it feels like on the Apple side as well They're focusing on a are they're focusing on applications they're focusing on what these devices can do for people and less about what the devices themselves are and That feels like a good Maturation point for for mobile we've had plenty of those points But I think we're we're definitely getting into that time where we're saying alright What else can we do with these and Google may be best? Position to to answer that question given all that they've invested and thrown into things like AI and automation and other things But they've got the back end and sort of the information to make services really matter in a way that I'm not sure Apple's ready for so Pretty excited about the pixel but more excited actually about what they talked about around it There was also the Google pixel book. It's 10 millimeters thick weighs about a kilogram That's a couple pounds with a 12.3 inch 235 pixel per inch quad HD LCD touchscreen has two USB C ports and it is the first laptop with Google Assistant built in it just comes right in It's also a $99 pixel book pen Built in combination with Waycom that has 10 millisecond latency 60 degrees of angular awareness in 2000 levels of pressure sensitivity The base model pixel book has a core i5 processor 8 gigs of RAM and 128 gig drive for $999 if you up that price to 1199 you'll get 256 gigabytes of storage and for a thousand six hundred forty nine dollars You get a core i7 processor 16 gigs of RAM and a five hundred twelve gigabyte NVMe solid-state drive You can pre-order today available in Canada the UK and the US and in one thousand retail locations starting on October 31st So you may have noticed that there's a drawing engine here everybody and this piqued my interest We talked about a little bit this morning the specs on that of that pen what waycom says it will do the pressure sensitivity all of that stuff Stacks up to what's available generally speaking on the waycom standalone devices other portable solutions They definitely one up and do better on those specs than the current surface pro stuff does It's Sounds like it's on par with what the iPad pro and pencil are giving people from an artist perspective This is very interesting stuff The big question is is app support and will enough Android or chrome native apps show up to give artists What they need to do things on the go that would be a big question, but I think this is the most exciting the pixel Chromebook has been to me in a very very long time and It runs all the Android apps So you know a lot of people are forgetting that Chrome OS isn't just Chrome OS anymore It it can run things like the office version of Android now That's granted not the same as the full version, but you know, it's not bad. Yeah, sir You and I are I mean big Mac OS fans You want to start lugging around a pixel and will it do what you need to have done? It's not that I don't think these specs look great I just I've just ordered so much Electronic equipment some of it I have a very loose knowledge of how to use so I'm not really going to be investing in a whole lot in general Until next year probably and that's more about a pocketbook than it is about be you know being not interested but all of this especially because Depending on what you got a plug into your computer You know the the the connect the connectors now that my MacBook Pro because I got the MacBook Pro that was that was new last November and it's absolute nightmare. You know where it's it's a dongle nightmare. I I think this actually looks really nice if I was in the market, I would take it seriously Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at other Google announcements include this Google announced the Google home mini in coral chalk and charcoal Nice little disc looking donut looking pastry looking thing. It's very exciting for $49 It's on pre-order now in stores October 19th Google home max with smart sound that tries to tune at the sound to your room Configuration and placement that's gonna cost you $3.99 with a free year of YouTube red that comes in December and Upgraded daydream view with better lenses. That's cool Has some front firing stereo speakers and new cloth coverings for $99 I still say they look like purses that somebody tipped over on their side, but whatever What else Google Pixel Buds Bluetooth headphones Tap to play or sorry tap to play swipe for volume Also, the Google assistant offers real-time translation with pixel phones $159 pre-order today and it bears mentioning that The pixel book will have a lot more integration with Google assistant Which I think is you know on par with the device that also runs Android but also gonna be good for people who use Google assistant outside of their Google home devices Yeah, and that and that theme of what are these things able to do? What's the software able to do? We're the folks with the AI was really hammered across the product line Not just in the pixel phone, but they talked about how we only need two mics in our Google home Some people need six or seven They talked about being able to do portrait mode in one lens on the pixel Because of machine learning because of AI so there's some impressive stuff I mean it is definitely impressive that the Google Pixel Buds can do translation Well, you know while you're talking to somebody But here's the thing the demo they showed had one guy with a pixel phone That he was hearing the translation from the other person and then one person wearing the Bluetooth ear buds Or rather the pixel buds You have to be living in the ecosystem for a lot of this stuff to really work well the promise Google hammered on and they said this a Couple of times which is you just you just don't have to think you just do what's natural and it will do it And they were trying to say that Google home is a little better at that stuff than Amazon Echo and and they are I'll give them that but you still have to think about stuff You still have to think well wait a minute is my calendar integrated with Google home Oh, it's not yet. Oh spotifies in there Google play music is in there. Oh, but I use a different I use Apple music will that work with Google home? Oh, no, it won't yet We don't have a seamless system for customers where you can just say to the assistant Do this and it will always work because everybody's got their silos up. Yeah once again, we've walked into a whole new silo area We'll probably keep walking into those silo areas. I find that incredibly frustrating in the long haul But I also really understand it I totally get it like Amazon has a very vested interest in making sure that that's where you stay and and that that's where third Parties want to tie their wagon and same with everybody else Apple Maybe the worst of them in terms of wanting to lock that stuff down and they may all provide wonderful experiences within those walls But I just feel like every time we get a few more steps closer to a little more of an open Environment with with mobile or whatever it may be then we just stepped right back in with this other new emerging market None of these guys want you to have an open environment The only time they start playing nice with each other is when they realize that too many customers have gone over to you know To whoever the competitor whatever the competitor is offering That's either better or for some other reason more popular than what they're offering. I mean Apple is clearly a Comes to mind, but that's that's just how it's going to be with all these huge companies Yeah, the Google home Max was demonstrated with Spotify because Google knows we don't have enough people using Google music yet to make You know make that compelling we got to use Spotify if they ever get YouTube music or Google play music up to speed Believe me. It's that's going to be in their demo. They're gonna want to shove people that way It you don't see Apple using Spotify to demo their stuff. It's always Apple music Also, they kept calling it YouTube music. They had the Google Play music logo up there But I have a feeling this thing's gonna get renamed I think we'll play music as the names go that actually brings up a point I just wanted to throw out there real quick and to me you just exemplified it with your description I believe I agree with everything you say, but they've got a branding problem with their some of their not all their services They're some of their services and they fix some of that stuff over time The Google Play move was a good one back in the day, but Google music YouTube music YouTube red the various combinations of these music services Derived from various corners of Google and or YouTube or whatever is very confusing I can tell you right now that most people I know are just like well I know Spotify or I know map Apple music because those are concise products that they either subscribe to or they don't and This other thing sounds like well, I don't know which of the four you're telling me about I should subscribe to it I think that's hurting them So maybe they are gonna do that and that'd be great Consolidate and then finally there was the surprise announcement of Google clips Which uses some AI to automatically photograph moments only takes pictures of faces and pets that it knows So you you do some some work with it to say these are this is my family These are my pets take pictures of them when you see it come into view It's so that you can just set it down and play with the baby or play with the dog And then go back and pull pictures out later It can export those as video or photo it can even do animated gifts over Wi-Fi it only exports them when you tell it to it's not surveillance camera It's not automatically streaming has a 12 megapixel sensor hundred three degree field of view Takes photos at 15 frames per second has 8 gigabytes of internal memory And it works not only just with pixel phones speak of the silos But the iPhone 8 and 8 plus and the Samsung Galaxy s7 and s8 clips is expensive though 249 bucks for this little thing I Mean call me crazy, but that doesn't sound that expensive to me if this actually works out nicely And yeah, you know you mentioned like babies and pets and if you're going to be using this on a regular basis And it works really well and the quality sounds pretty nice. It doesn't sound that expensive to me. Am I crazy? Who's trying to get a baby and or a pet to pose? I Totally can see how this is compelling having baby, but no pets with my with my smartphone if they if it bronze out support to additional phones or Ecosystems and you can train it to not just see your pets your family members But oh look motion at your front door. You should probably take a picture kind of thing I can see this being kind of Not I want to say hacked but kind of used in a non-traditional way because first thing I thought when I saw it was really looks like a body cam It'd be great if it could automatically start recording kind of any interaction I had if I were a delivery person or whatever just I think you guys are forgetting that this is but like Google Glass 2.0 for me The guy who shows up at Thanksgiving family reunion is gonna be the least popular person there But this hanging around his neck. It's gonna be annoying to see that thing not what it's taking pictures Not no, it does it has an LED light on the front so that everybody knows every time it's taken a picture I'm telling you man. I'm just not it's not even that. It's like a still thing. It's more that like yeah Like uncle Ernest after Thanksgiving is gonna send you like 7,000 pictures of you over the course of two hours because his camera knew you and you're like thanks I'm not sure how well it's gonna be able to to work in in non-tradition not intended situations Cuz you have to train it what to look for So it's not gonna work with strangers because you have to tell it look for this person look for this baby Look for that a grandpa. Yeah pictures of them You know what take pictures of people who don't look like my family I don't think it works that way, but If you've got a nosy neighbor that you just you never want her to come over, you know You take one picture pretend you guys are friends tell Google clips any time she comes to the door absolutely not and then maybe you've got something Roger's point like you can kind of hack it to your band. I think you made it work. You're right Hey folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines comm you can get it as a podcast on the Amazon echo On the anchor app and through anchor on Google home, and that's a look at our top stories All right, so yesterday many of you know from watching the morning stream or maybe just seeing it on Twitter Scott Johnson was one of the people who fell victim to a breach at the server of his domain name registrar and Essentially what happened if I if I have it right the basics are they got into the server We're able to access several accounts and you were the unlucky person that they got to first Before the domain name registrar shut them down and because they were able to just have a few seconds in your account They were able to forward email on that domain name that you had set up to their own address and Got a whole your Twitter account. Basically that is correct And it was within about a span of 15 20 seconds that this breach occurred It was within that time that they added the second email address to my domain forwarding record That meant anytime I would get an email to the one I have there They would also get one they get a copy of anything I got So what that meant was not such a big deal in terms of what email they got because I it's all spam and stuff I don't care that much about in this particular account But what they do get is any kind of reset sets on any accounts I have for password resets or checking on user names I don't remember or whatever and I'm a pretty locked-down guy for the most part I have two factor authentication on just about every service I use everything from stuff as simple as gaming all the way up to banking and everything in between and I thought I had Twitter on the same lockdown It's probably worth using what I just said as a as a as a warning to people who think that maybe they did it too But now they're not sure you may think you did it because at one point they had you verify your phone number And if you did that you may think that what you were doing was yet another two-factor authentication text-based something Turns out you weren't you were just verifying a phone number. It helps them verify who you are You become a verified user that way in a lot more cases, but it doesn't do anything for two factor I thought I had two factor I didn't the story would kind of end here because the the the registrar was on it They saw what happened they sealed it They shut down the accounts affected and then only reopened them after full reports and all the blogs have been gone through and everything else So they did great job on their part. None of this was their fault necessarily except for the sex point which I'm gonna now patched Wasn't my fault Except I didn't have two factor on Twitter They had enough time in that 20 seconds to change the address to request a password reset and then Get the password changed and then change the email because now they're in they can just change the email And now my email is not even on my account Before the server got shut down and there was anything we could do That resulted in a full day of back-and-forth with me trying to get ahold of Twitter Being a little stressed out because he spent the entire I say he could have been a group could have been a bot I don't know but spent a lot of time in my DMs talking to friends and followers asking for credit card information and And and and how specifically I mean if he he or she or they had just been like give me your credit card information Most people would be like no way so how what was the social engineering strategy? Well, if that was interesting because this work got really creepy I thought because some people immediately saw something was wrong because they knew I would never ask what for what I was asking in a Couple of cases they'd get as far as saying well Can I contact you and we can talk about it on the phone instead of here and they would say oh my phone's down But here's this other number and then that would be Of a totally different area code and they say oh, all right Well, then you're not real because why would I call that but even Patrick Bay Joc called me yesterday? just to make sure because he wasn't sure what was going on and Wanted to help and that was my worries that people would want to help but here's how they did it We had one person say Well, if you're really Scott, they weren't believing it and they were using good natural language by the way this this hacker So it didn't seem that far off except for what he was asking He says if you're really Scott, please tell me three podcasts you produce a week That's easily found online though, right? Morningstream current and the instance immediately and That made this person still not believe him, but I thought oof near miss Because a lot of people would just buy that so obviously they did their homework They knew who I was they knew a lot of that stuff the parts I haven't really expressed much as while I'm waiting for all this to get locked down during the day and Worrying what they could do with the account what kind of damage they could do I also witnessed a couple of real-time attacks of my slack credentials Which I have on two-factor so they couldn't get all the way through on that They went in so far and I told Tom this when they realized I had two-factor and couldn't do anything I then got an invite to a new slack group called scott-johnson.slack.com and They use words like nertacular and all kinds of other stuff in the invite. Yeah So really what they were doing here, and I'm getting some echo from somebody so what they were doing here went away good was Trying to use your email. This is there's a couple of lessons to be drawn here One is your email if you have password resets connected to it is a vulnerable place You need to make sure that is very locked down because if they can get your email Then they can get your password resets and it doesn't matter how long and strong your password is Especially if you don't have two-factor authentication, and that's the another lesson here Which is when you have two-factor authentication That's another mitigation against this and it certainly made me go and double-check and say do I have two-factor on authentication on the things that I need to have it on And and and so this is a good reminder for everybody if you think you have two-factor authentication Go and check if you think you have your email address locked down And that no one could get into it and you have two-factor authentication on that go and check Because it doesn't matter if you have a strong password Which you should have if there's another way around it another example, which you didn't fall vulnerable to here is The the so-called security questions where you can say well, I forgot my password. What's your mother's maiden name? What town were you born in? What's your favorite song? Kind of stuff that especially if you're Scott somebody could look up online. Maybe get into an account that way Yeah, also, I mean I've probably mentioned my favorite song on shows before like we're in about a minute a uniquely bad position where I blurb a lot of stuff out on the air that any of that stuff is sort of secure so So while this really was nobody's fault certainly not my fault Not kind of occasionally checking your accounts and going all right. Where am I locked down and where am I not? Or a new service I'm signing up for take the time to see what kind of security measures They have in place or if you need to put in place some sort of more overall protection My password for Twitter was ridiculously long and complex. There's no way they could have guessed it Which is why I need to yeah now now what did Twitter do to finally give you back your account? So That's the part. I think they were going to try to ransom me on on slack. I also should mention I got Facebook See slack or no Facebook Skype and one other service. I can't remember which one But I got requests for passive resets on all of those they all had two factors. So it didn't matter And it just went nowhere after that but they went full force all day to try to get everything I had based on that email address And how it all turned out in the end is I sort of had to wait for Twitter They say it takes up to three days. It only took them 12 hours. So I guess credit for that They gave me a new address or they said they gave me a reset and said now give us an address You're not currently using another email address and we'll replace that then you can get in do the reset again Then to factor it down blah blah blah. I did that But in real time, I don't know how this works Okay, because I'm no hacker or whatever but in real time somebody else somewhere else Saudi Arabia's where all this said it came from Was trying to do the same thing again. Yeah, it's a script and and they're not in Saudi Arabia They're just putting a you an IP address, right? It could be spoofed. Who knows where it is could be next door for all I know but the point is that by the time I was done It felt like the end of a 24 episode or something just key for Southern and making it through by the skin of his teeth And I finally got control of my Twitter account again and got it all back up So the lessons for me are twofold that email stuff you talked about dead on Absolutely, make sure that wherever you're hosting it where your MX records are whatever it is you're doing Make sure that stuff is locked down as possible and check on that stuff periodically And don't just set it and forget it and then the other is check accounts Especially your big social accounts like Twitter you may have thought you did it and you didn't so go check and see if you did And none of this would have been a problem with with two factors So for me, that's the big takeaway also I just have never been faced with this kind of disruption slash personal violation of information thing before So in a way, I feel like I you know I got a little blunt education yesterday and I'm gonna make the best of it But hopefully this advice and these you know, this description will help people listening to the show Well, thanks to everybody who does listen to the show and participates in things like our subreddit at daily tech news show Reddit comm and our Facebook group at Facebook comm slash groups slash daily tech news show Let's check in with Chris Christensen is Chris Christensen from amateur traveler with another tech in travel minute if you have ever slept on an airport floor and I have then this is good news that there at least four companies that are competing to get into the airport Sleep pod business where you can buy access to a sleep capsule One of the business problems with this is it makes more money for the airport to put in a restaurant than a bunch of sleep pods for instance One seat in an airport restaurant can generate $20,000 in revenue in a single year according to an article in travel pulse Com but for those of us who don't need another McDonald's in Mexico City For instance, there are sleep pods that come with a bed a high definition TV a safe Wi-Fi and USB charging ports and can be rented for $8 an hour For a two-hour minimum or $30 for the entire night private showers are available, but cost extra I'd rather spend my time outside airports But sometimes when you're stuck it'd be really nice to have a place to Recharge yourself and your devices. I'm Chris Christensen from amateur traveler. Thank you Chris Let's get to our messages of the day first ones from Tim who said recently you guys have had several discussions about AR devices And you mentioned AR contact lenses I was the chief information officer for an AR company for almost six years So I've been involved in lots of discussions about current and future AR tech people frequently talk about contact lenses being a great option Once the tech could be miniaturized But one thing to keep in mind is people spend up to $20,000 to have a surgery so they don't have to wear contact lenses I wore contacts until I was about 25 and couldn't wait to get my lasik surgery Contacts are uncomfortable expensive and require a great deal of maintenance in order for context to become a viable AR platform They'd have to significantly improve their comfort and care requirements in addition to miniaturizing the augmented reality tech Tim is totally right by the way. I think he's dead on I mean as much as I think it'd be cool to miniaturize in that to that degree People forget what a pain in the butt contacts are and why I don't wear them anymore is that reason? So you'd have to have a very compelling life-changing reason for me to to adopt it Got another email from M. Darleen Sensei who says I've been listening to the show for a long time Notice that there are a lot of teachers who also listen I'd like to start a professional learning network for teachers who listen to DTNS I'm currently a technology teacher for a small K through 6 parochial school in Massachusetts always looking for other teachers to collaborate on projects and kick around ideas So email me if you want to talk tech in schools Who knows maybe we can put together a student segment for DTNS labs and her email address is on the reddit post She made about this we'll have a link to that in the show notes You can just go to the subreddit daily tech news show reddit.com to find it Thank you Scott Johnson as always what you got going on. Oh, it's a pleasure Tom So it was a leaked yesterday I don't know if it's leaked but it was made obvious yesterday by Blizzard entertainment that I will be hosting a live panel and show for the instance on Saturday at blizzcon The first part of November. So if you're going to blizzcon Come and see us. It's up on the schedule now. I believe it's 3 p.m. That afternoon We'll be up on stage and on direct TV For those who are not at the event and you can watch that as well Oh, wait, the instance will be on direct TV. The instance will be on direct TV Yeah, my ugly faces some awesome guests from Blizzard We're still working on who but all of that stuff which I can talk about in full soon Will be happening but as it stands right now You're definitely getting us on stage and you're definitely gonna see us on TV And we're all definitely a little nervous about it, but we're excited and stoked So if you're going to blizzcon do check that out that schedules up at blizzcon.com for everything else follow me on My recently reacquired Twitter account at Scott Johnson or find me on the web at frogpants.com Excellent big thanks to everyone who supports this show and makes it possible for us to do it We will stop talking about it, but we're super thankful That's Sarah Lane's here and when I say we'll stop talking about it. I mean, it'll just become normal, you know, Sarah's here There she is. Yeah, it's it won't even be a party anymore. 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I you know, I You know, I didn't talk to you yesterday, but but I heard about the incident and I Checked a couple things too. Luckily. I'm in good shape But I mean I think sure a lot of people don't really understand two-factor authentication And that's you know, it's you just got to you know Kind of hammer that home and use one password or last pass and all that stuff But I think more common really is just missing a service. Yeah, you thought you did it and I've found services where they didn't have two-factor authentication and now they do right yeah And so it's hard to keep up like oh, oh, they have they have to a now I should I should go do that sure and it's like how are they gonna let you know that I mean at some point It might be an email newsletter that you already unsubscribed from right kind of thing Yeah, they sent out an alert that you deleted because you didn't read it because you're like spam Yeah, man speaking of newsletters, you know how Well depending on the site that you're visiting there are these sort of like like boo-hoo. I see you're using ad blocker Don't you love us like they're starting to get more and more manipulative It's like it's like it's like the crappy email newsletter of 2017 where I'm like, okay You know, I get what you're saying your ad supported But you know some of them you know, I see you start reading them and it's like the verbiage is really Well, and it really is me because I don't use an ad blocker I use privacy badger privacy badger only blocks you if you've got a bunch of stuff that is Sharing its data with other sites without my approval. So you're losing your sympathy on me when you go Oh boo-hoo, you're not letting us track you without your permission Right, which is even funnier where you're like, hmm interesting. It's just I and listen I I Gotta hear both sides and I understand them, but I Some some of them have really become very Very heavy-handed for the price of a cup of coffee this reporter Yeah, there was one that the I won't call out the site, but you know, you might have seen it It was like, you know what? It seems like you don't like ads, but they're not that bad Exists to block them some people actually think they're really bad We're your friend that's what happens We're your friend We have not gotten to titles and I don't title. All right, do Andrew's dream of AI ethics. Sorry everyone's stuck Scott's no good horrible very bad day Scott's fishing trip Yeah, I don't I mean, it's not a it's not really fishing but no, that's a great Quote Scott kept calm and carried on Winner came for Scott Johnson Google sits AI on the ball Pixel 2 XL Boogaloo. Oh We didn't talk about the pixel 2 doesn't have the phone doesn't have a headphone jack Yeah, we didn't mention it. It's become so derigure for people to get rid of their headphone jack It's not even a big deal anymore It'll be a big deal when someone's stuck somewhere and they I want to plug my headphones into this I actually don't the headphone jack is like on on my iPhone. Anyway, it's like I've got the little dongles It's a non-issue, but there is a new dongle that Apple's selling where it's like it Well, it's a it's basically like a little like jack hub So the one thing that is annoying is if you're using, you know That the port and you're talking to somebody using headphones and you want to charge at the same time It's an issue. So I think I'm gonna go ahead and spring for that guy. I Have that one actually it's good. Yeah I think they exist already. It's just like now. There's like an official Apple sanctioned. Yeah They the one I got is well, I think I got it for an attack here But I have the MacBook which is even has less ports on it than when you got It's literally got the single USB 3 thing No, no, that's that's what I've got to all right So so this thing goes out to this kind of hub block where I can go HDMI USB another USB-C and Maybe 10 base T like a network connection. I can't remember. That's all in a single It's a little I don't know seem pricey at the time, but maybe it wasn't so the top vote getter for the title of Scott's No good horrible very bad day Wow, really Well, it wasn't a very good day Scott Do androids dream of AI ethics there's one down here Echo system of a down Get it system of a down. Yeah, I get it. Mr. Page turned on these walls to Scott kept calm and carried on That he did yeah That's just how calm I was if I'm being honest But you looked calm on TMS because I checked in and I was like wow, okay He doesn't look as freaked out together. Okay by the end of the day though. I was like, oh my gosh Yeah, I'm a stay and I was just always worried someone was gonna screw somebody over and I didn't want that to happen And dumbest day and blackest night Even be able to wear the grease so Scott kept calm and carried on is my favorite, but what do you guys want? Um, yeah, that's good. Whatever Scott is copacetic with it's his day It's your special day day and blackest night Remember the green lantern Where is that Amazon delivery person? My goodness What do you think they would have come during the show? Yeah, I know that's that's usually how it works. Well, so okay So if I can go on just a slight this is a mini rant. It's not a big rant for whatever reason Everything that I ever get on Amazon requires my signature Well, that's not okay Not everything because that blue icicle Tom came yesterday and it was here when I got back from the airport And you know, it's I wasn't here obviously, but okay, but but you know I figure like was it a certain price point, but it's not so it must be like certain third party Sellers that Amazon is working with I don't know what it is I have bought some sort of pricey items lately, but like some of the electronics I've gotten aren't really pricey I think that they're just in a category Where Amazon's like you just need a signature. I I wonder if it has to do with third-party sellers That would make sense to me actually. Yeah party sellers want proof that it got delivered So you can't because you heard about that couple that were trying to scam Amazon by saying everything got damaged or Didn't show up right. They were using a bunch of different addresses It the whole thing is a little bit messy and part of it is probably because I usually don't buy that much Kind of random one-off stuff from Amazon But I have lately because I've been kind of putting together the studio and buy little things But I did have Amazon for the very first time send. They had tried to send me it was one of these Scarlet preamps and It came and I wasn't here to get it So I had to sign for it and then the next day it was supposed to be delivered some waiting around all day And I finally get you know, and it's like we have until 9 p.m. To give it to you it's like okay, I guess I'm not leaving the house and Then at around 8 30 p.m. I got an email saying well, we're sorry, but the item has been lost and So I called Amazon customer service and they were like well, this is unusual. This never happens I'm like, well, you sent me the email. I mean never got to me. You told me that it's been lost So somebody told you that I don't know Bad Amazon luck, I don't know what the deal is all of my friends are like just have them leave it outside your building But no doesn't work doesn't work that way at the Lane residence And then I thought is it have to do with like an address where there's enough instances of something Complaints Interesting because I do live down by the beach if you left a package outside my building it would be gone in five minutes Yeah, yeah for sure that that could be you know that that could be part of it But you know now that you mention it when I lived in Oakland. I would always have stuff delivered to work Because it seemed like everything needed to be signed when I had it delivered to my house And I was never home to sign it and they wouldn't just leave it Right now it's not I feel like it's not as bad But I also have a secure place for packages, which I didn't right. Yeah. Yeah You know, it's I don't know half the time when my buzzer rings It's because UPS is trying to just put a package inside the door for one of my neighbors Very that's a whole other thing. Yeah. Yeah, I'm usually you know, I'm happy to help I know my neighbors for the most part, but but but but yeah, this isn't this is like You get the the person has been inside the building because you get the little notice inside saying Sarah We can't deliver this. We'll try again tomorrow. So anyway, I just want my lights When Scott's oh, it's Scott kept calm and carried on title. Oh, yeah, I've already published the show It's fast that way done Do you and done Dunzo Oh speaking of Somebody asked I think it was beatmaster before the show Sarah How you were able to track down and fix the audio problem from Monday Heck if I know well, the one thing I remember is the device manager was muting Your mic. Yeah, but you right find out after the show The original issue that we were having is that I was kind of siloing, right? There was like a there was you know, my my mic was kind of coming in and out So we were like is it the connection doesn't really make a lot of sense because the video seems fine You know my mixer everything on on my end looks fine What we did was we we changed the default recording device in windows 10 from Uh, it was I don't remember what it was, but it wasn't my mixer. So we changed it to the mixer and for some reason That makes no sense and won't make any sense to anyone else either Once we did that There was a tab but within that sort of recording device settings of your system sounds in windows 10 that just Toggled on the mute. Yeah, it defaulted the mute Yeah, so, you know, here we are trying to figure out like and I'm like literally all of my stuff no longer works Just be you know, even when we changed the The the recording device setting back to whatever it was before I think it was just default Uh, they didn't fix anything and so even just before the show Just now I had to go in and toggle off that mute button because by default now It just wants to mute me all the time And I don't mind doing that as long as my mic sounds okay Yeah, and it's not a good today But it does it's it's still very befuddling. I don't I don't uh, I don't I don't I don't appreciate how my stuff is giving me the run around that's for sure So there you go. Yeah Uh, well folks, uh, don't forget tomorrow I'm back with sarah. Justin nate roger Then on friday the show is from la pod fest We will definitely have an audio show In your feed there probably won't be a full thing like there is because it's at a conference Uh, but there will be audio there may not be video Although there may uh, we're still trying to figure that part out and then monday's show will be from london And it sounds like uh for sure we'll be able to do maybe even a pre and post show I don't know about that, but definitely an audio and probably video from there and then back to normal on Tuesday So there you go. Hope everybody keeps that in mind And uh, thank you for for hanging around and being with us. Uh, as as we begin this new phase It's been pretty fantastic to have you all here Yeah, it really has really has we mean and I I would say like my the only thing I wish I could do more of is respond to everybody in our slack bosses uh account DTNS slack. Yeah DTNS bosses um But I do lurk in there a lot like I keep up with everybody because I'm starting to like get to know people and you know recognize usernames and stuff like that, but um, there's a lot of volume So it's good thing and I like the hive mind aspect of it, but um, I do get behind really easily I like zoe brings bacon right now. She's like, I'm not across the pond. You're across the pond Somebody's crossing a pond. That's all I know. Yeah. Cool pond. Pond's good for you. See you later. Bye