 The pan-European social-political organization FENIFERA has expressed serious worries about worsening insecurity in Nigeria. In a statement by its national publicity secretary, Jari Ajayi, on Monday, the group wondered if the president's General Mohammad Bahari retired was aware of the situation. The group said the level of insecurity was unprecedented while calling on Bahari to demonstrate what he has or was serious about, or that he was serious about ending the spate of killings and abductions across the country. Now, also, no fewer than seven hostages abducted from the Kaduna-Budak train incident were released and these hostages were released by the terrorists, including a family of six and a 60-year-old woman, Hajia Aisha Hassan, was said to have been released due to life-thwisting health challenges that deteriorated recently. Joining us to discuss this is Andi Akpaltive, a political analyst and a social reformer. Always a pleasure to have you join us, Andi. Great to be here. Very am. Great to be here. Good evening. Thank you. Now, according to an index, a global safety perception index, Nigeria is being ranked at 75th as insecurity is worsening in the country. Now, we all obviously know that these indexes are put out every year or every two years to look at the state of, and some of the parameters used in measuring this is, of course, the number of people that have been killed, the amount of guns that come into a country, border controls, et cetera, et cetera, and Nigeria seems to fall short in all of these areas. But you also are aware of how bad the security situation is. Before now, it just used to be in the north and it would be a bit far-fetched, but now it's hitting close to home. And I find it very easy saying that it seems that Mr. President is not necessarily aware of what is happening in the country. Do you share in that particular narrative? And if you do, why do you think the president of the country is hugest Nigeria that has as many as he does would not be aware of what's going on? So it's really very laughable that we're trying to excuse the president by saying that he's not aware. Other than the fact that the president has got a large routine of staff. And so we are talking about every kind of staff right now. Those who are ministers, those who are special advisors, senior special advisors, the president has also got family members. He has got children. He has got cousins that consistently and constantly, they have direct access to him. So if a friend of hers says the president is being sure that he's not aware of what is going on, it beats me whole lot because it would mean that indeed the president is not only staying away from listening to his ministers and his aides, he's also not speaking to his children. He's also not speaking to his wife. He's also not speaking to his cousins. He's also not speaking to his in-laws. He's been completely insulated from everybody that he had a relationship with at the initial before he became a president. Let us put culpability or domicile culpability where culpability should be domiciled. It is not a fact that the president is not aware. He's aware of his stance and they are continuing to insist that it appears as if the president does not have the solution to fixing our insecurity problem. You will recall that by the time good Lord Jonathan was there and his president was there, they all saw the Archibok and depressed and ingenious seemed to have forgotten that there are still some girls called Chibok girls. There is still Dapche. As a matter of fact, there is a particular girl with that Dapche incident and there are several others. As much as you have the proliferation of insecurity according to the length and breadth of this country, we had the people who were kidnapped that this president campaigned with to say that I am going to call, I'm going to address it. I'm going to get all these people returned years apart. If indeed they have insulated him, they have kept him away from the others. The one that he knew, the one that he campaigned with, the Chibok girls, what has happened now? The one that he knew, the one that he campaigned with. How has he solved it now? The truth of the matter is that we have seen that incompetencies have been dancing on the street regarding how this administration has been handling security matters. And we've heard the president speak on these issues. He's talked tough. He's assured and reassured Nigerians that this will become a thing of the past. But then it seems like you have said that there are so many incompetences. There was a time that there was an outcry for service chiefs to be changed. It was a bit of dilly-dallying. But then, of course, the service chiefs were changed. That did not solve anything. As we speak today, there have been redlets in the Southwest. They have been, I mean, people have been, we've seen people coming into the South in trailers. Absolutely, 120 people, 150 people, they've been under counts and under motorcycles. Yeah, but again, Mr. President is one person and not in any way holding brief for the president. We have service chiefs. We have the chief of defense staff who at some point asked us to not be cowardly and defend ourselves. And we've seen governors also, out of frustration, ask for us to take up weapons. But let's look at solutions here. We have the army. Maria, can I just quickly jump in on that question? Please. The commander in chief of the armed forces is one person. If you thought that your security chiefs were not performing. That's the name. We cannot be here making excuses for what should not be excused. The president is the only one, as far as he's concerned, that has seen the terms of the employment and said to himself that he was going to be able to perform. We do not forget that I have continued to insist that the president wrote his exams or set his exams for us. He set it for himself rather. He said I will go and answer security issues, economy, and corruption. That exam he set it for himself. Nigeria has not set it for him. Yes, as past. This is almost less than one year before he leaves office. That exam that he set for himself, even if he was to mark himself, he would not give himself anything more than 10. It speaks to the fact that there is some level of unaware. I can say the president was not aware of the nature of the college. I believe so before he began making those promises. So Maria, we cannot speak and say the president is just one person. The constitution says the primary purpose of government shall be the security and the welfare of the people. You apply for this job. As a matter of fact, three times before you won, three times, you said to us that you understood how to fight insecurity. Today, as we speak, a lot of people are excusing it. That, oh, it's not about the president. It's about the chiefs. It's about the, if you knew the kitchen was going to be too hot for you because of your health condition, then you do not apply to be a chef. Let's talk about solutions here, because I really am here because we want to talk about how we can get ourselves or wiggle ourselves out of this because, again, I have always wondered why anybody would want to be the president of any country knowing that there are lots of issues, especially a country like Nigeria. But the president did angle for that. So he is president, but then he has a few more months to go. He has even said that he can't wait to go and rest. He also has said that he's done his best. But how do we get ourselves out of this? And for anyone who becomes the president of this country, what should they be tackling? As we speak right now, as we speak now, the National Assembly, even though it be the opposition parties, they're angling for an impeachment of sorts that many have also said might never really happen. What do we do in the interim? Elections are around the corner. How do we have free, fair, and credible elections and violence free elections if we're unsafe? And how safe should people be feeling enough? I mean, I'm sorry, people should be feeling safe enough to want to go out and vote. But if that is nowhere to be found, how are we certain that we can have an election in the first instance? Maria, so there are examinations that people have in life. And you don't get to write one exam, particularly in medical school. You don't get to write one exam more than twice. So if you wrote it and failed it, you have to recede it again. If you failed it again, you were warped. You were warped and sent to maybe the main school, yeah? And you were thrown out of the medical school. And this is exactly how life is. Life essentially will give you opportunities to rework your mistakes. My father used to say that it's only a fool. It's only a fool that we failed exams that he had failed before. It gave him a second time, a third time, and a fourth time. I'm not saying anything about this administration, but my solution is simple. We have seen that perpetually, consistently, these governments have failed the Nigerian people when it comes to fighting insecurity. Maria, let me tell you something that just happened, less than 24 hours. They had told us that a certain man was arrested regarding the attack in Undostate. But they forgot that they told us that that name, that person escaped, was one of the people who escaped from Kujie Prison. How was he in Kujie Prison and was also able to go and carry out attack in Undostate? Are you saying that these narratives are not driving? There is something from a mentally wrong that Nigerians are too naive about. And I'm saying that the solution is simple. Is that the President Muhammad Iboari's administration, the APC administration, they obviously do not have the solution to addressing this insecurity problem. And so where does that... Get them out of office as quickly as yesterday. Get them out of... Do not even start to consider only seeing to this new rhetoric that they're going to bring. But Andy, that has to be done by the books. You need a certain majority. Yeah, hold on. You need a certain majority on the floor of the National Assembly and both floors, by the way, to be able to get this to pass. But then, we also know that the President's Party is the majority in the National Assembly. That's on the one hand. Many would also say, just hold on, many would also say that we wait till February and March when the elections will hold proper for that to happen. But my question again, in case you didn't get me, what happens in the interim? More lives are being lost every other day. Nigerians don't sleep with both eyes closed anymore. There seems to be a lot that's going wrong. So what do we do in the interim, in closing quickly, because we have to go? My solution is simple. Pressure the National Assembly to begin the process of the impeachment of the President. That's what we must do on the interim. I don't know how to mean words. I employed you to come and fix my company. You got into my company and I am one of the Sherwooders. We are the chief board of directors. And you were there. You sat there. You are unable to fix the thing. And you want me to wait for you to run out your term so that the company would run down the ditch. I would get the board who will sit down and I was going to get you out of there as the MD. The Senate, I wanted to say to you that do you know that one of the members on the floor, the Senate, that was a part of this who wants to impeach the President and give the President this automation is from Kassina State. The President states that they have not focused on him from Kassina State, APC man. And he said enough is enough. So who says that the people who are in APC, are they not Nigerians? Are they not enjoying, quote unquote, this insecurity? We must pressure them. And it's not about this automation. We must, because it is obvious that this President and the APC do not have the solution for this security problem. We must pressure them to quickly use legal means. My word, legal means. All right, Andy, we have to go. The President has to be okay. Andy Aposive is a social reformer. He's also a political analyst. Thank you so much for speaking with us, Andy. We can see the passion in your conversation tonight. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you. And that's the show tonight on Plus Politics. Don't forget, if you missed a bit of this program, you can go on our YouTube channel at Plus TV Africa, or Plus TV Africa Lifestyle, and click on Plus Politics. Watch a replay of the show. Don't forget to subscribe and like our page. I am Mary Anacorn. Have a good night. See you tomorrow when we talk for development.