 You know, I like the fact that for the past few days every time we come in to start the very first thing I see is To peek it in a bikini, you don't know what that means, but it's true. It's true Hey, welcome back to our stupid rakes. It's the Corbin. I'm to pick up how to go You can follow us on Instagram Twitter for juicy gone. Yeah, thanks. I'm patreon Follow us for your Twitter account subscribe if you haven't and hit the like button Why why why why it helps the algorithm and that's what we like to do More than help the algorithm nothing we like to do then help the algorithm Nothing we like to do but help the algorithm if you don't help the algorithm you should go away Today we're doing a movie review. Oh, what am I doing today? What are you? Wow? This is gonna be a fun movie review. You want juicy content? You know where to put it and welcome back to classic month. It's classic month It is our I don't know number four five our film for the year Class for the year. It's I think it's a Fifth this was our fifth because we've also seen we've done six total and cutty was New release. Yeah six six Seven I don't know. I think it's it might be seven. Hold on one second. Hold your whole hold your cotton pickin Okay Doing a movie of the There we go. I was gonna hold my coffee cup So I kind of got the two-in-one. I had this and I had this so it turned into this The 1973 classic Abhimaman Corbinized the Um, um, um, hi, I'd be mumma mum. I'd be mumma mum. Yeah, say it in Bigby's voice. I Be mumma mum. Oh, do you how do you say that? Abhiman abhiman Probably sounds my bed. My beautiful lovely Indian wife for here. She would say it properly She is not directed and story by Rishi Keshe Mukherjee. He's a very famous director in India. I wonder if he's Bengali probably. Yeah also Composed by SD Berman. Yeah, and starring Amitabh Bachchan And Jaya Bachchan Just sexier Yeah, higher and sexier and I believe at this moment She was a bigger star than Bigby was really at this point in their career pathways interesting and Interesting obviously during the filming of this they got married And I think the the one scene They did the end scene Right after their honeymoon Really? Yeah, I believe so if the trivia that I did not know that correct That is what happened But obviously I wanted to get to some obviously big big classics and Jaya specifically cuz right off the top in case you didn't notice There you go. Namaste bitches namaste bitches But obviously this is gonna be a hundred cents for review if you haven't watched it go watch it Well, you've got to rent it on YouTube All different places that we have to find Indian films But this is a classic that I think a lot of people Have seen before and Johnny had seen it before obviously. Yeah Yeah, it's it's it's one of those films that Even if you haven't seen it you you know the film it'd be like people in America if you said Gone with the wind. Yeah, you said come with the wind. They say yeah, of course or or at least if they're older Yeah, or they're all but even then even still or if you know, the Casablanca they say yeah I've never seen it, but I know about that. Yeah, absolutely But anyway, so it'd be a hundred and forty if you haven't watched it go watch it come back And then you'll be spoiled like the naughty little Sphinx that you are. Oh naughty Sphinx Rick your initial thoughts please it had to happen at some point We would eventually get to a classic that I didn't like This is a classic that I didn't like I have technical reasons for disliking it It isn't the obvious reasons though. I dislike it for the obvious reasons We'll get into that in a little bit But there were aspects there there is a thing that I liked about it the thing that I liked about it And it was a very high level liking that almost made me like the film almost made me like the film was Jaya Bachchan Yeah, yeah, she she is the the thing for me that held this together and made me keep Wanting to watch but but other than that for the most part. This was the first time we had a classic I didn't dislike it. I just didn't like it. I was in that kind of just flat point Mostly because of some things that have to do with technical aspects that for me. I didn't didn't float my boat. I gotcha I Don't really want to say I totally enjoyed it just because of the story And that's probably one of the things that disconnected me most I enjoyed a lot of the film part of it in terms of like this is a very different story of like Somebody who you can't really root for in in the Amatek Bachchan style character. This movie could have been called men Thy name is asshole Absolutely, and it seems like this year actually more than others that we've seen Classics that are very of their time of their culture. Oh, yeah Especially of this classic month. Yeah of like Men doing certain things or that that was acceptable at that time or acceptable in the Indian culture at the time So that that bodes if I may this this reminds me of I think I saved it if I didn't save it I know it's in the message Here that I sent to rich because there's a photograph of something from this same era back in the 1970s That was a game that was played called battleship. I found it. You remember the game battleship. Yeah, okay So this is an ad. I'm gonna put it up on the screen. So here's the here's the ad It says battleship fun for the whole family. Okay, right says battleship fun for the whole family However, when you zoom in what you see is it's the dad and the son playing the game. This is what's in the background The women are in the kitchen Fun for the whole family when the boys get to play their games and the girls are where they should be barefoot Pregnant and in the kitchen, right? Am I right? So it's similar era. Yeah, right similar and I've obviously gone into some of the other films that we've seen this classic month of of Similar kind of things different but similar in terms of what's acceptable sure at that time sure What's different except all in the Indian culture at that time which makes you take it with that grain of salt? But I probably enjoyed this film more than you did just because I enjoyed quite a few things about it in terms of Jaya's performance Not that Big B did anything bad in this performance It's just I was character was one that you want to know or at all, right? It wasn't that he was bad. There was just there wasn't anything that stood out for me. She was Fantastic, and we'll talk about her. I loved the songs I thought the the the pacing of the film probably could have been not in terms of like it Dragged in terms of like It just went from one thing to one thing to one thing really fast, right? There was a there my primary the primary thing I disliked about the film was what you just described in most aspects of the film there was a stodgy cut out very formal Non-logical other than this is what we need to do for the shot sense of both the pacing the blocking of the actors The physicality of the actors. I didn't she was really the only one that I felt was Incarnating and being where many other times there were things I knew that were done just purely for indication rather than Full embodiment of what's going on so the and the pacing Basically it all fell in line that way I felt like the dialogue the the the blocking was hugely problematic for me in terms of it not being justified other than I'm walking here Because this is where I've been directed to walk We've taken this shot because this is the shot we want I want to make sure that the pictures here and I will turn to let everyone know I'm thinking about that is how they did it Back in the day, but this was big. Yeah, I didn't notice that Quite a few times like the obvious of you were told to hit your mark here It was mask. It was pretty much throughout Shot, but I want to talk about the the thing obviously I think probably most people think is the best part about this film Even if you absolutely adore this film is Jaya. Yep absolutely great performance by her as usual though She even in stuff like it's stuff. That's crazy over the top. Yeah, we've talked about this before K3G Right. Yeah, everybody including Avatar Bakshan is through the roof, right? And obviously that's the style of film that they were going for in that film. Yeah, she's but she's always here She's like I will not go up here. I will always be here on the ground do what you want to do But I'm gonna stay grounded guys It just shows that she's just a phenomenal actor. Yeah, and especially in that end part I think those were real tears coming on 100% if it's not it would have shocked me I saw all the emotion on her face there at the end as did our supporting actress Barely supporting role the other woman. I thought she did a good job as well. She she Encapsulated for me as best as was possible. I think a genuineness of feeling and Just a level of acting that that conveyed truth I didn't understand that character's role very much though. That's part of the another problem with the screen I didn't understand fleshed out. Well, were they having an affair? Was he just like an old Fling that he wants to you know that he has an emotional connection to I didn't understand like her point in this whole story, right? and maybe maybe there's a bunch of stuff in like the Hindi version that It's much more connecting via wise which is always entirely possible. Yeah, of course just garbage, right? Yeah, but Jaya was definitely the the performance you felt for her because Everything that was happening to her was completely unfair and not her fault and obviously that's the point obviously of the story of like just Toxic very toxic masculinity and fragile egos and right. Yeah, like my favorite line in the film History has taught us that a man is better than a woman Good grief, but granted that's one of the things that I I Obviously, it's one of the reasons I couldn't fully connect with the the film is because of like I Don't know if I could watch this one again outside of the beautiful songs is because I'm like He's just an asshole every guy is but also especially him. I think that was the point And so that's when I've been I'm fine with the film It was like even if you're not trying to make everybody fully like connect in all that You're telling the story of toxic masculinity in Indian culture specifically at the time even though Even though I still had a problem with obviously in the the superstar Russian con film of the redemption arc that this that character gets The redemption arc that it just happens I think it in a lot of Indian films. Yeah, but don't deserve it Yeah, get that redemption arc because that's what the audience wants But here's here's where for me this redent your redemption arc doesn't work I felt every man in this needed a bullet in their head Here's the reason his redemption arc doesn't work for me He was not a fully fleshed out complex human being he was just a dick and When he came to a realization of what he had done we didn't see any struggle prior during or after in terms of Justifying this tremendous revelation of what happened with him to justify Anything redemptive at all. So the fact that he did not have complexity to his character He was a pretty straightforward negative character, which was I felt he's already judged by the screenwriter This is our bad guy. He's gonna do bad things and all the other people are gonna be bad versus maybe having one person like that and The comparisons that are made to this and they're they're good comparisons because it's a similar story It's not exactly the same, but it's it's it's a good comparison to compare it to a star is born Every version of it. I haven't seen Judy Garland's version But the Streisand Chris Christofferson version in the more recent Bradley Cooper Gaga in that story The man who's the star and Discovers her It's tragic Because you understand that his primary issue is with himself and you can understand why she loves this broken man And you're rooting for him to heal You're rooting for them to win and in the end your heart broken because if he hadn't been so flawed Maybe there had been hope I I I just felt like this guy wasn't flawed. He was just an asshole and Help me understand. What is the point except continuing to push through this men or dicks message the socks That moment happened and I said out loud. What the fuck She's still grieving the loss of her child and you're waving the baby socks in front of her saying What are we gonna do with these? I did not get what that was supposed to do in the story That's one of the reasons I said this is one of the another one that I feel is lost in the time on us as well of what the Obviously back even back in America back in the day right 60s whatever the time was that Men were and those are men will be men boys. Yeah All that way and all that kind of shit. Yeah, they would do the minimal thing sure go there better now, right? I felt that that's one of the things that happened to this for sure because I've seen some Indians talk about this film They're like, oh, it's so beautiful and maybe they're just talking about Jaya's character and the heartbreaking of her But obviously seeing this not obviously when it came out and only in 2023 Just like some other films that we've seen this classic month It's very striking the the stuff that they let certain people get away with and I know you said like he didn't you didn't see any Like remorse or redeeming of his character. Obviously, that's the same thing. That's the same thing. I felt with Russia cons character Though well, I thought that his character. I thought that was even less with his though Now I felt his his character had complex bashed somebody's head in yeah, and then was like ha I was right She loves me more, but he had complexity. There were points where he demonstrated that he wasn't I don't think I'm Box on didn't have complexity. I I don't agree with that aspect. I do. Yeah. No, you didn't feel he was pretty one No, I thought Rajagant was more one note than I'm a talk about John When did he demonstrate that he was a kind man? I Don't think he I don't think he ever demonstrated that he was a Bad, I think he demonstrated. No, what did he demonstrate? He was kind. I mean at the end I mean, I'm not saying it was I like I said, I don't I Didn't like his redemption arc, but I did see some of like the the I think he was genuinely Sorry, I don't think he deserved the recognition for being sorry at the end because obviously I think he was an absolute ass Do that the entire thing of just being very toxic and but once again that that I think that was the point of the film of Him it just I wished he didn't get that redemption arc in the end I like if if he was just in a dick who didn't want to be there for his wife when she was giving birth and then lost the Child and then and she's still doing this grieving and they make her go up on stage And and when it ended and they're walking away, she's crying my thought was good God She's never getting out of that hell. Yeah She's just gonna live with him and be treated this way for the rest of her life And maybe that's the point that may be why I think that it's I didn't hate the film is because I think that I think that's the point of this film is that it's the the toxic masculinity of Indian culture me at the time I don't know if this is what he was saying of just the that vicious cycle even if they Saw what they did are they actually going to change in the end and this is more of a Tragedy Shakespeare kind of thing for Jaya Bachchan in terms of it is a tragedy Tragedy, but at it Shakespeare complexity go hand-in-hand So this is nothing nothing remotely close to being a Shakespearean tragedy a Shakespearean tragedy story for her of just it's just a sad Story for her. I don't I think it's more than that. Yeah You get tragedy when you're dealing with complexity and that there was we get it. You don't think it was complex the hope of I think it was a little more than you think it was I don't think it's the most complex story I've ever seen obviously, but I think I don't think it was not not complex I I feel very similar to the Rajdekan film in terms of that whole Storyline of the man and how their dicks right You made the comparison that you think that Amitabh Bachchan's character was more complex than his character And I think you're smoking crack because I think Rajdekan's character beat the shit and almost killed his wife and Absolutely, he did not beat his wife And almost kill her. Well, there are things that are far worse than that. No, no, no, there are things that are far worse Just physical abuse is obviously a bad thing But there are things that are way more abusive that are done to people emotionally than are done physically It's true But and also again most murdering your wife is is pretty high up well in the non-forgivable almost murdering is what he did He murdered his wife. He Absolutely destroyed Everything she was as a person. Oh, she is a walking corpse at the end of this. Oh, I'm well aware So but I don't see though that big of a difference between those two characters But he shows no this character shows no kindness Do I think yeah Selfless kindness there are times when they're happy and they're having a good time, but it's always Because he's getting something out of it. He never does anything sacrificial for her in any way or any one Yeah, I'm not saying you didn't whereas Rajdekan does no This is not a comparison of the two so yeah, it is no I'm saying that's not what people want to hear right here is a comparison of those two I just brought it up for a point Not not for us to talk about it for 20 minutes. That's what I'm saying But the another thing that I did really enjoy about this film was the music of this film I did I thought that the music was absolutely theme gorgeous And was she played by Lada or was it? Yes. It was Lada. Uh-huh. I could see why she was more popular Yeah, yeah, yeah Even if you're also sung by a legend I mean if you're singing next to if your wife is the voice of Lada McCurgy and you're whoever Your wife's probably gonna be a little more popular than you are But the I did really enjoy that aspect of the film even though like this was not a film that was like had Big numbers, right just had a lot of small Intimate no, and I did appreciate that we actually had subs yeah for the song for the songs That that is nice, and I did appreciate the fact That for the time it's my understanding that in Indian cinematic history And even still today, I mean it's not common to have somebody who's going to play the lead character as the male Someone like an Amitabh Bachchan be playing a negative character. Hmm. You know that that's that's not that is definitely not lost on me Mm-hmm for for the actor of that day because there are still actors today Who will not play a character that's considered the negative role which I I hope that? Terminology changes because it's like saying the characters negative already gives a pre-judgment on the character Yeah, before you're even playing it versus being the antagonist, and I think it's because probably at this point in his career He I don't this was before Sholey right and so before he became right Bigger than everybody right and so just like Just like with Rajnikarh she had started it. Yeah, and more yep So I think that happens quite often, but just not as much after they become a star right Because their fans want them as the he right right right of the thing, but yeah, I do agree with that I thought I think is it been to decide. Yes. Yeah, I do it's it's been to who played Chitra Yeah, yeah, she was the other one that I felt I thought it was Helen for a second. Oh, did you? Yeah, I did yeah, I thought it was Helen and What do you think about his friend though because you said every every guy was a dick in this Do you even think his friend was a dick because he was the nicer to he was the more complex character than obviously I'm a type of absolutely. He was by far the more complex character in that though. He demonstrated some attributes Occasionally that were negative especially the sock scene That that he he demonstrated kindness. He demonstrated frustration. He demonstrated, but he too suffered from either I'm guessing it was directing choices where so much of his blocking Whether he was moving or he was seated or what he was needing to do for camera was being played the camera Yeah, there was so much of that was sitting down and he was yeah over shoulder so much of the staging was so stodgy and cardboard and Did not feel like it evinced life. It felt very staged. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, I think there was a scene where Jaya and the Bindu is that her name? Yeah, and he was she walked she was they were talking and she walked Behind her and talked to the yeah edge over here. Yeah well, there's a moment where he's he gets really mad at at big B and He goes to leave and the phone rings and he walks back to the phone and he stops and then he goes and he leaves Every moment of that I knew what was gonna happen I felt like he walked to the phone because he was supposed to walk to the phone and he stopped because he was supposed to stop Versus it being in the moment and him making decisions based on that's you know what? I'm not gonna answer the phone It just felt very stage and you felt it was more than the normal knee of the time because that's obviously very of the time It is of the time it just was so high throughout every moment that it was the standout for me that disconnected me. Yeah But you liked the ending the her scene like the ending scene of her I didn't I didn't personally like what happened to the character, but Yeah, I appreciated what I did appreciate was it's it's not a happy ending It too it did end with what was very clearly the staged background people You know coming to one autographs But then being pushed aside and they're not asking for the autographs because they were told to stand there There was just so much stuff that I saw people doing because they were told to do it versus doing it because There was justification for it But yeah If there's a my favorite takeaways or her performance Mm-hmm and the fact that it it accentuates toxic masculinity And I don't know how much it does so with an intentionality versus as a byproduct Mm-hmm, and then the ultimate ending as tragic as it is. Um, I'm really happy It didn't end with her smiling and waving at everybody that would have been so Disappointing yeah, it ended with her as a pretty much a and you enjoyed the song So I really enjoy the songs and I enjoyed the theme But that's where it put me where I didn't I didn't dislike it so much that it's it's I'm like I would never want to watch this again. I would watch her for sure Yeah, but it it's the first one that I can't say that I I really liked yeah Well, let us know what you thought about this film and why We are idiots yep in the comments below what should be our next Amatuck Bakchan and Jaya. Yeah Bakchan Films whether together or separate as well. I do know obviously there's silsala or something. Yes He's obviously high up there silsala I think that's the title those two and Rekha and as that's is that because I know she worked on Several films with Rishikesh Mukherjee, so I don't know if the director. Yeah, I believe that director There were several films that they worked on together as my my understanding Well, he's probably one of the biggest directors of the day. Yeah back in the day. I don't know why it's not coming up My internet is going slow Anyways, anyway, you guys can let oh sorry no content available here Anyways, let us know what you thought about the film what should be our next classic that we should watch down below