 How do you know this morning? There's nothing more than that rumor that we got yesterday. I talked to Ape for us about it. I think he talked to you at Chicago. Well, he talked to one of my men. I didn't know I was speaking, but I'm just getting ready to go to New York. Do you have any idea who that might be? No, I haven't any idea. I would surmise it might be down the line. They always referred to a cabinet officer. But I do know that over in the defense department, the Navy had had under surveillance this fellow. He works for an assistant secretary by the name of Baloo. In connection with some deviations. Baloo's name, if you will recall, was mentioned a number of times in the British Southwest. But this fellow is in working in his office and the Navy have had him under surveillance. We took over that investigation yesterday because it involves the overall picture of any penetration into the security of the, he was never assigned to the White House, but any security of the country. That is the nearest one. They said that this particular man had been under surveillance and that they were going to explode this bomb today. The only person I know of who's been under surveillance by any agency has been this man over in the Navy department. We've had no one under surveillance. And I don't know of any other intelligence agency that has had one, except the Naval Intelligence. No, I read that what they said was that they raised the question the way he combed his hair, the way he did something else, but they had no active hairs or he had done nothing. It was just the suspicion that his mannerisms and so forth were such that they were suspicious. Yeah, he worked for me for four or five years, but he wasn't even suspicious to me, but I guess you're going to have to teach me something about this stuff. Well, you know, I often wonder what the next crisis is going to be. That's where I can't recognize them. I don't know what I'm thinking about. It's a thing that you just can't tell. Sometimes, just like in the case of this popular jacket, there is no indication in any way. No. I knew him pretty well, and he looked at it also, and there was no suspicion, no indication. There are some people who walk kind of funny and so forth, that you might kind of think are a little bit off, or maybe queer, but there was no indication of that in the jacket's case. I have never seen this full of... We've had so much of these things, these stories, and Vincent's story that I think Pearson had the information for you. We got an affidavit from that source saying that it was absolutely untrue. It was just said as a gag. We got that yesterday. What was that? That was the story of this man being planted in the Public and National Committee and the frame-up of the Jenkins. Yeah. And I think Pearson had an affidavit from this particular person who gave him the story and was going and consulted eight porters as to whether he could use it or should print it. The porters advised him it was libelous and should not be printed. And then we received word to make the investigation, and we did. We interviewed this body. Got an affidavit completely denying the former affidavit and said it was just a gag. It's not a very funny gag, but I mean, that's the kind of rumours that are going around. And I think, of course, as we get nearer to next Tuesday, I think there's likelihood of a lot of this rumoring going on that they can't prove and will not be able to prove. But, of course, there's somebody, one of these 30 columnists is very apt to carry something in a column. So far, I haven't been able to get any more detail than was given to me yesterday, namely that this man was a cabinet officer and would be exposed today. I've thought of all the cabinet offices that we have, and I don't know personally, but none of them have raised any suspicion in my mind. None in my mind. You might do this. We might, if this thing comes out on Tuesday, you might give some thought to what we ought to do with all secretaries and undersecretaries and assistant secretaries, and you, indeed, give a little thought to it from my standpoint, kind of represent me, and I don't want to run you crazy over there, but I'd rather thank you to take everybody from me right on down. The thing that was started was back in Eisenhower's day. I remember when he was elected. He sent for me to come to New York and asked me to remain as director. And then he said, I'm going to have every cabinet officer that is to be appointed by me to call you and ask you to investigate them. And he did, John Foster Dulles, all the way down the line, including the fellow Vandenberg. And as Vandenberg had not been appointed at that time, he had been largely a member of the president's party on the campaign, and we investigated every cabinet officer. We investigated all presidential appointments to commissions and so forth from that time up until the Kennedy administration came in. And then that was stopped. Now, they're all cabinet officers at present time have been investigated, except the postmaster general and the secretary of health, welfare, and education. They'd all received investigations over five years ago, though. That's a problem that I think we've got to face up to as to how often these three checks ought to be made. Well, you give some thought to that and I have implicit confidence in whatever you say we'll do. All right, I'll be very glad to. Thank you.