 The state PDP governorship primary election may have come and gone, but the controversies remain mercy, indeed both parties and both sides of the same party are still in difficulties and of course the controversial issues, especially coming from Shigoni who is the leading contender who didn't win but also came out and lost the primary election and he's been singing and shouting and saying a lot of things regarding that convention. Well the AKG State primaries may have come and gone, but the controversial issues remain that defeated aspirant Chief Shigoni and the former state governor, Chief Shigoni has accused the former governor, another former governor of AKG State, Ayodhya Lefayeshia of selling out the party's candidates to the all-progressive Congress. Oniya has also accused the PDP national working committee led by Ayodhya Ayu of hurriedly ratifying the outcome of the governorship primary election which he alleged was conducted in a shoddy and abysmal manner. In his words, basically the APC's candidates duplicate copy. So he's calling the winner of that PDP primary who was his opponent in the primary. The APC candidates duplicate copy. However, Ayodhya's media aide Larry Olaenka has dismissed the allegations saying Shigoni is basically on his own as far as the PDP is concerned. We'd like to find out what the future holds for the People's Democratic Party in AKG State. That's what we're out here for to find out what the future holds for the People's Democratic Party in AKG. So we have joining us Yamiya Olaenka who is the chief candidate of the People's Democratic Party in that state. Mr. Olaenka, good morning to you and thanks for joining us. Good morning. Good morning. Thank you, Nigera. Thank you for having me. Is Shigoni on his own as far as the PDP in AKG State is concerned as said by the spokesman for Bicicolaole? Yeah. Well, Larry is free to say whatever he likes. In the free world, there is no limitation to anybody to say whatever he likes. But whether or not time will tell, I mean, you know that in the state today everybody knows and they're aware that Shigoni is a candidate to beat. I can say that Shigoni is on his own. Okay, let's wait and see. Time will tell. But I can assure you by the time they get the results, they will know the scores. What do you mean, sir? What I mean is that, well, the other plans on the ground, as I'm talking to you, there's so many plans going on within the camp and I believe so strongly that by time we come up with our plans and what we tend to do, let us see whether or whether it is possible for them to see Shigoni is on his own. But I can assure you that everything is on course. I mean, the primaries have held the People's Democratic Party, national leadership has ratified the outcome of that primary. You know, every party has its internal rules and processes and once the party ratifies it, that's done. So I mean, isn't Shigoni already fighting a loss-battle-loss cause? Let me say this, let me be clear to Nigerians. Unfortunately, we have laid a democracy setting on a bad footing in our country and I'm afraid that the younger ones will not meet this absurdity, this theater of absurdity that happens everywhere when it comes to primary and when it comes to election in Nigeria. It was a plan when the question created rigging that took place in equity on the 26th of January at the primary where plan supported by the national, it's unfortunate, we find ourselves in this situation, it's unfortunate that Yosha is that will believe and do the right thing is saying that that primary was okay. It's unfortunate, but I'll tell you, they are all acting as cheap that I've been reading, is cheap to redeem in favor of the candidate of the APC. How is this a script written in favor of the candidate of the APC? You have the entire, are you saying the entire people, okay, yes, go on please. Let me say something to you, there was a celebration at that night because Shigoni lost, that was a party that the government has in the state, I don't want anybody to prove it wrong, they jubilated at the APC camp, they had a party, they drank, they almost finished all the beers and all the beer pallows in that night, that yes we are happy that Shigoni lost, the only person they know that they want to beat and that is there that people love, the artisan, the civil servant, the teachers, everybody loves Shigoni and they wanted him back and we told them, don't throw away PDP, don't let this election go away, I think you should have more people that will be governor of PDP than that can help you and that's exactly what we told them, but they refused, so they planned it, if you look at what happened at the primary, you will be shocked, I'm sure you must have seen some of the footages and all that, you know, I mean how can they be voting, they will be showing to a particular candidate and they will vote and let them show it to another candidate before they move and the chairman of the electoral committee was there looking at everybody and if anybody says anything he will fight you, he will ask the police to remove you from the hall, so that's why I said it was a well-planned orchestrated move by the APC, by the PDP to favour the APC and that night, apart from the fact that at the Turei party, Ayodele Faoshi was at the state house, was with Fahemi, they were there together that night drinking, that yes we won the battle, we finished Shigoni, but let us see who the people want, you know, it's just a matter of time. So another issue that was raised is the issue of results she's giving to electoral officers, you know, the night before the primary elections, can you, you know, help us describe and tell us how that happened? That was in the PDP, that is the issue of the APC, that they are the one that has the issue of the distribution of electoral material the night before, as you know, I mean, we didn't have the kind of primary they had, they had the direct primary at the APC, we had an indirect primary, I mean, it's a delegate election, so and we were all there, so it wasn't us that complained of that, you know, it was the APC and I cannot speak for the APC, I can only talk about the PDP. So but another issue again is the fact that Governor Faoshi has been accused of betrayal, betraying, you know, the People's Democratic Party, can you, can you also tell us what that means or what kind of betrayal we're looking at now? I can tell my jury, I would say Faoshi is a traitor, he can't trade anybody off, as long as money comes, that's the kind of person he is. He doesn't care, he doesn't care, he told me, I mean, if someone told me that they actually mentioned to me like, it's not as much as you know that Shagun is the best candidate, why not to allow your candidate to support Shagun so that he can win the election? He said he doesn't care, he must have satisfied his own conscience, that is absurd, that is evil to the party you believe that you have a strong support for, I can use to say that, you know, it shows that, I mean, someone that doesn't care, as long as you're able to fulfill your satisfy yourself and you don't care what happens to the party, it's unfortunate and that is evil. Okay, I mean, I'm still trying to understand how this emergence can be a script being played out in support of the APC in Hikiti state, it's quite well documented, the rivalry between, sorry, I mean, you're like, the rivalry between Fahimi and Faeshe is well documented, you know, there's no love lost between There's no rivalry between them lately, you can see the two of them jolly, you see them in the photograph together, even on the night of the primary, at the government house, and you see the kind of gritting the way they embrace there's no rivalry at all, but sir, I'm looking at a copy of that photograph, politicians can meet anywhere, even though so have the fiercest rivalry, in the public, they can just keep a sort of a formal and official pose. Faeshe didn't go to see Fahimi alone, he went there in the company of Badaru and Imanu Odomimano, governor of Aqaibum state, who was a returning officer for the PDP at that state governorship primary, and yes, so they just basically had enough evidence, and enough evidence to show that it's a straight-up plan, so it is, what is the PDP, former governor, meaning the government house at the night of a primary, what is the chairman of an electoral committee, yes, the chairman being that a governor of another state, I mean maybe a same-place country with the governor of the whole state, that is understandable, but for all of them to throw a party to drink together, the only picture you saw was the picture that was shown outside, it did allow people inside, there was a party inside the government house, then you asked a question earlier, how would you say that okay, that something was so constituted to favour the APC, the moment you carry a candidate that is not acceptable to the general of the PDP, definitely you are saying APC should win, mind you, currently the governor of Aqaibum state is from APC, the national that controls every apparatus of government is APC, beat such a government in any state, you need a candidate that is well acceptable by everybody, it's as good as gone, okay we'll come to that, but are you saying that Don Mimano, governor of Aqaibum state is also working for the APC? They work in consonants with an orchestrated plan to ensure that they carry a lesser candidate, that's the candidate of Ayodele Pauche, a candidate that is not well or generally acceptable to the general of Aqaibum, that's exactly what we're saying, or all to make sure that the APC wins? That's all, that's not a thing, that's the script, that's all, when you carry a lesser candidate, definitely APC will have an upper hand, they are the one controlling the state, but from what I can see, if you know where you have the likes of Aqaibum state before, and where not by the people you can find out by yourself, or ask your correspondent to find out who the Aqaibum state is, who is generally acceptable to the people of Aqaibum state, they will tell you, give us Shaguni, everybody start shouting, give us Shaguni, give us Shaguni, and so we don't want Shaguni. So let's come to the matter of the popularity of B.C. Kolaulay and Shaguni, of course you had the likes of the female senator who also pulled out and Rujimi and others, some would argue that, and I'm sure you've said the same thing, that popularity is not by mouth, it's not by what people say on the streets, you have to win the delegates over, and if the delegates are not on your side and don't vote to you, even if you're popular outside, you cannot win, those are the rules, and you play by the rules, so what do you say to that, because you're saying that Oni is on the mouths or lips of a lot of people in Aqaibum state, they love him, they want him, he's popular, fine, that could be the case, but did the delegates vote him? Well, let's talk about the delegates, unfortunately before Oni returned to the PDP, the delegates are there, the executives have been selected by Ayodele Faoshi, so the answer to Ayodele Faoshi, there's no doubt in that fact, if you remember Senator Olujimi that you just mentioned is in court regarding the executive that voted at the primary, they are still in court, and the woman said, she withdrew at the last minute, and said that the primary election is illegal, that the people voting at that primary election is illegal, in fact it's not a contention, by the time you get to court, I mean you are just working straight to the answer for the APC, if eventually Senator Olujimi led a group wins at the court, that means whoever wins the election under the PDP is a non-advised thing, that means that the APC will just walk into the government and be there, and Olujimi has not withdrawn the case in the court, even though the party has instructed that to withdraw the cases in the court, they are sitting in the court, if they eventually wins in the court, that means whoever becomes the gunner of the case is under PDP, it's a non-advised thing. Well that's the probability, it could also turn out that they could also lose, but before Messi comes in, so you said, you're giving us a history, Mr. Yeme Yolanko, you were saying that Shigoni has been criss-crossing carpets, crossing carpets PDP to APC, APC to PDP, and so he left the party, and by the time he came back, the delegates were loyal to Ayodele Faioche, but some would argue that's politics for you, politics for you, maybe he should have gone to Faioche to say, Faioche, I come in peace, let's have a pact, let's have an agreement, I will work with you, let's work together, you know, it is the way it is, and in some record Faioche I said, you can't eat where you didn't sow, that's what he said, you cannot eat where you did not sow, so it's sort of a proverb to say, well, you'll come back, but we've been planting, we've been working here, we've been trying to hold the party down, Faioche has been holding PDP down, even in Nigeria, when he was governor, we see what he did to Buhari, and after he left and all that, so I mean, is anything wrong if he's been able to take hold of the structures, that's politics, that's what everyone wants to do, I'm sure if Shigoni has this way, he would be in Faioche's position to control the structures of the party, so what do you say to that? If he has allowed a free and fair primary, without intimidation, without cohesion, then maybe we'll have seen a different ball game, if this part of father is the one that put the executive there, and the judge of delegates in this table, but you still find out that Shigoni is loved by everybody, even those that voted, apart from the indigestment, I may not want to go into that here on national air, apart from the indigestment, the kind of indigestment that went on on that day, which is absurd, which is evil, which is wrong, which should not be acceptable to the generalty of Nigeria, and I think the youths should come out to say no to such a thing, but that was exactly what happened, people were induced greatly, a lot of gratification went on, just part of father Faioche knew that okay, this executive have put them there, if he didn't do what he did, I'm telling you, we'll beat him hands down, because people love Shigoni, that is the truth. And when Shigoni came back to the party, when he came back to the party, it's not because he wants to face cross or whatever, if it's people are on his neck, when you don't answer to the call of your people, it falls back on you, people are on his neck, we love you, you have done well with us when you were here, we want you back. And unfortunately, at APC, it was rejected, and that was planned by the current governor in APC, that's what I mean, Shigoni should be expelled from his word, Shigoni is not the kind of a man that gets involved in all these dirty things, bribe people, give people money for, no, he's not that kind of person, he's a distant person, he's a classy person, a well behaved person, well nurtured, well tutored, classy. Okay, so let's also talk about the fact that some persons are disgruntled in the party, the likes of Fermi Bamishile, who vows to challenge, you know, the equity governorship primary elections in court, what does this leave you ahead of the elections proper, especially when you have the opposition? The Fermi Bamishile is in APC, and the APC are not happy with what happened in their phone, we have a lot of very, very prominent people that contested that they are on primary too, many of them are saying they're going to court, if you see the MOB that's Michael Oppo, who is a senator, with the chair of the committee on judiciary, he has vowed to challenge the primary at the court, and Bamishile has promised that, that is the affair of the APC, what they're going to court, they want to go to court, I mean it's not dependent on what the court is going to say. So but looking at all of the issues that's going on now, where does this leave the People's Democratic Party with the elections come? So there's no tendency that the internal mechanisms of the party can actually help in resolving the issues before the elections? And the public can come behind me and say that and pet me, let's say Yuribah did that, don't you take me back, that's Yuribah did that, he can't disgrace me in the public and come behind me and say oh and pet me, no it doesn't work like that, it doesn't, it doesn't, it can work, it is my own work, and I can assure you it won't work, and that's why I said okay a lot of clients are going on the ground and by time when what is going to happen in the next few days, we know that we mean business, we want to change the narrative, we want to tell people that you, I or the people cannot constitute themselves as God of policy in the United States, but we cannot constitute themselves as God of policy in the United States, if the people are ready for liberation and we would liberate them, and that's exactly what's going to happen, just wait in another few days, don't follow that plans. Mr. Lank, between Chief Shegouni and Ayodele Faeshe, who is more popular in the United States, since you've been giving us a bit of popularity, there's no basis of comparison between Shegouni and Ayodele, popularity, popularity now, that's what I'm talking about, that's what I'm saying, there's no basis of comparison, that's the truth, from the look up, you have your correspondence in the United States, ask them questions, I'm not just making them out, but the truth is Shegouni is far, far above them, there's a culture, there's a tradition that he's not in Ayodele Faeshe, he's not in him, and whatever you don't have, you can be. He's won election twice in the United States? Yes, he has. You don't win elections two times if you're not popular. I'm not saying no to that. He has won election twice in the United States because he has the opportunity, good enough, but I'm telling you categorically, Shegouni is more popular, and that's why both APC and PDP are saying, please, we don't allow this man to win, and sure that he doesn't win, because they know it's a problem. For you to see Shegouni's name, everybody find out, the civil servants are calling for him, the artisans are calling for him, the market women are calling for him, give us Shegouni, why? He's a gentleman to the court, he has the culture, what we call it, if it's a culture in him. So, I mean, if that's the case, we're just having, you know, a logical conversation now, if he has such popularity, would he be okay if he's dissatisfied with what's going on in his party, and he decides to come to another party and then contest the elections? Do you see him, you know, making any kind of progress? Don't let the cat out of the bag yet, I've just told you, there's a lot of plans going on, just a few days, and you see exactly what the plan is going to be like, just a few days, and then you see, we unfold our plans to you. So you're saying that there's a possibility that he might just come to another party? That's nothing wrong, what's wrong in that? We want to library people, it's a possibility. Isn't that the problem right there, if only he had stayed where he was before? The chances, or had stayed with the PDP, the chances are that... Just maybe he would have his structures of the party having stayed there all these years for now, you know, by now, like Fahime who's been this way for forever, and Fahime who's been the other way forever, being a one-time governor, one-time governor Shigoni, if he probably had stayed in one party, he maybe would have had a greater influence, you'd say. Is it advisable, a good strategy to still keep Chris crossing, you know, from party A to party B? I was good with you to submit, I was good with you to submit, but there's so many issues that arose to the movement that happened. It didn't just happen suddenly, that there are so many factors that are responsible for the movement we were talking about. But nonetheless, the most important thing in this wise is the equity people, it's the delivery of governance, good governance for equity people, and that's exactly what we're looking at. Whether you're doing it in APC or in PDP, or in ACC or DDD, the most important thing is that what does equity people want at this time, and who do they want? And the answer is Shigoni in the list of everybody, and that's exactly what's going to happen. All right, all right, we would like to pull the plugs at this time, Yemi Olayankar, is of a chieftain of the People's Democratic Party in AQT State. We've been X-raying the issues around the rejection of PDP governorship primary results by leading contender in that primary, one-time governor of AQT State, Chief Shigoni. Ms. Amy Olayankar, thank you very much for your time, and we will be surely getting back to you as the events unfold. If Shigoni does that switch, like we're speculating on you, probably hinting this morning, we'll definitely get back to you to say you are a prophet. Maybe you should start a church or a ministry, but thank you very much for your time. Thank you, thank you for having me, thank you Nigerians, God bless you all. Well that's it on the AQT PDP crisis, and what have you. What fingers are crossed? We'll see how the event of things actually the issue of internal democracy and politics in political parties would always be a major concern where you constantly have strong men who dictate who become what and get what at what point. Isn't that what politics is about? I mean, you know, sometimes I ask myself when people complain about politics being played in political parties, I say, but that's politics. It is politics. That's why it's called politics. So we shouldn't be complaining about politics. No, when you're in politics, you play politics. If I'm in a political party, I will want to control the party. So when you talk about politics, you know, because the issue of politics, like what we say is for me, politics is interest. And for every time you have your interest overriding another interest, that's politics for me. And so politics and democracy, they can't, you know, that's it. So can we have a time where politics and democracy would be in sync? They're probably not just aligned, but just for the purpose, because democracy would say, let's have a fair playing ground. Let's give people the opportunity to run. And then politics will say, you know, my interest, like you already said, you will have to. But we need to move over. You know what I think? I think you should climb a campaign stage and do the talking. All right, we will be back and then we'll talk about the joint admission matriculation sport, introducing new subjects into the curriculum up next on the breakfast.