 I'm with Scott Taylor of Sense, and I purposely went to talk to these people because they've got a way of monitoring the energy usage in your home, and it looks like it's a really intriguing idea. Tell us about it, Scott. Yeah, sure. That's right. So it's a product that installs inside the electric panel. It's a very easy 15-minute install, and it measures the electricity of the whole home, and it can also measure the solar production that's coming from panels on the roof if you have them. What we do is we study that signal, and we're able to break that down into which appliances are coming on and off and how much energy they're using. So that can tell you where you're wasting energy in your house, whether you're using things sufficiently or not, how much of your solar energy you're using if you have solar. But it also tells you things like when your microwave was used. Did you remember to close the garage door when you used it? Just about anything in your house that uses a signal we can find. Let me ask you, the graphic, this is for audio listeners as well, the graphic is showing us fridge, sump, pop, solar, microwave. How is it figuring that out? So we sampled the electricity usage at a very high rate, 41,000 times a second. And when you're looking that closely at the electric signal, you can see little unique signatures when a microwave comes on or when a front-loading washer powers up. So that's what allows us to do that. So you've got algorithms that can actually identify what it is by that signature. Yep, they use machine learning and based on all the homes we have installed, they're able to figure out what does this usually look like. Interesting. What happens if you've got a really old refrigerator that's sucking energy like crazy and you've got a brand new one? Would they have similar signatures or you can tell them both? We can tell them both typically. And there are some appliances that are hard to find. The older ones tend to be easier in many ways. But for example, a lot of people will buy a new energy efficient refrigerator, get a rebate from their utility. Then they'll take the old one, put it in their garage. You betcha we do. I've got a full of beer. No, no, I've got a lot more than two. I have a beer fridge. But it's using twice as much energy sometimes as the one that's up in the kitchen. Yeah, it really is. It's not all about finding the appliances. It's also about giving you very real-time feedback. So that's the thing that we can do by sampling and connecting to your Wi-Fi is we can tell you when you turn something on, bang, there it is, even if we haven't figured it out yet. And that real-time feedback, it's kind of like a Fitbit for your house. What you measure, you will change. Yeah, exactly. It's like, wait a minute, why did this use it? I didn't know that used so much. And it helps you find these things in your house. You had no idea we were using something. You start to notice things like I know plasma TVs are no longer a thing. But I used to walk past a plasma TV and I'd get a sunburn. I'm thinking you would be able to see, hey, wait, that LCD TV I bought is hardly using anything in this. On our website, we've got a bunch of stories that users have posted called Sense Saves. And a big offender are these old base amplifiers for old audio equipment. Oh, really? Oh, that's it. I never thought about that. So there's things like that that you should probably put on a smart plug or something if you're not using it all the time. Somebody, I don't know, has the TV on all day long in your house. How would you show that? Some TVs use more than others. If it's a new TV, it's probably not using that much. But your DVR box, on the other hand, is probably always using a lot of energy. Oh, really? Oh, interesting. We did a story about this a while ago where we looked at how much energy they use. And even when you turn them off, they don't save that much energy. So you mentioned putting it on a smart plug as a solution. Like a Fitbit, it's also, now what do I need to do about fixing it, not just what's wrong? I mean, some things you can just remember to turn them off or use them less often, or upgrade the appliance because it's old and inefficient, like a dehumidifier. But other things you have to use, but you say something like a DVR that's on all the time and it's always sucking energy, why not put it on a smart plug and on a schedule that powers it on at three in the afternoon or whenever I'm about to start watching TV? I need it to record mash at three in the morning. Yeah, so yeah. But it's whatever works for you, but smart plugs can help. And we can actually talk to smart plugs too so that you can see them in the app and turn them off and on. Oh, that's cool. So looking at the physical devices here, what I'm seeing is a red box, maybe the size of a couple cell phones back to back. It looks like it's got an antenna on it. This is what goes inside the circuit breaker box, right? Yep, this installs, this goes inside the panel. There's two clamps that you put around the main feed from the utility. So you don't need to wire up every breaker, which would take forever. You just put two clamps in around the main feed from the utility, right there. Oh, here's Steve. Yeah? Steve? All right, no, watch right here. It's a clamp, okay? Now you'll see in this picture, we've got two more clamps and those are for measuring the solar that's coming into this panel, okay? If you don't have solar, you don't need the two extra clamps. And then you also have to wire it into a 240 bolt breaker so that we can see the voltage on the house as well, okay? Now, this is inside the panel and it's live electricity. It should be an electrician. A lot of electrically handy people can do it themselves, but it should be electricians. We're engineers, so we might be able to do it. So, now what is the wristband I see on the... Usually only a 15 minute install for somebody who knows what they're doing. Okay, cool. What are the wristbands then? These are just our gift to you. That's the USB drive that's got the press kit on it. Oh, okay. I thought, wow, is it gonna shock me when I turn the TV on too many times? Looks kind of like a Fitbit and we think we're kind of like the Fitbit for the house. So I haven't described for the audio listeners that the display that we're looking at is a bubble chart. So the EV charger, for example, is a giant bubble. The HVAC is a smaller one. Solar is pretty big. The fridge is actually pretty little. So you've got a good graphical interface and then you can drill down into each one of the devices. Yeah, you can drill down into the devices and see what each one used last month, last week. You can look at monthly reports, weekly reports, daily reports. We'll send you... You can set alerts. Tell me when the oven's been on for more than two hours, things like that. I forgot, because I don't bake anything that long. Thanksgiving, yeah. Yeah, there you go. What I like about this is that it's at the electrical box. I've heard about these devices you can put where you put it between the TV and the outlet. It's like, okay, now I know what that is. Now I gotta unplug it from there and I gotta plug it in the next thing. And I just know I'm gonna do like two of those and I'm gonna give up and stop playing. Right, that's exactly. If this gives you situational awareness relative to each other, like you said, like this TV is worse than that TV or this fridge that I have in the garage with my 85 cans of beer is using a lot of energy, right? Exactly, right, exactly right. And for the things that we haven't found yet, you can just look at the real-time thing when you turn it on or unplug it and see how much it was using because you can see the wattage change. We've also got an energy nerd view, as I call it, the power meter, which just shows you the overall power consumption and solar production. So it's graphically over time going real-time. So you go flip lights on and off, you can see how much it's going up and down, right? Oh, that is really cool. So the company is called Sense? It's called Sense, yep. Okay, and where would people go to find out more? You can go to sense.com to find out more. You can buy the product there, you can buy the product on Amazon. You can, it's already available. Yep. Oh, great, and can I ask you a price point? $299 for the standard version, an extra $50 for the clamps for solar, if you guess. Wow, that is fantastic. I think that's something I'm really interested in and I know a lot of our listeners are interested in saving energy too. Fantastic. Thank you very much, Scott. Thank you.