 In this episode of Mind Pump, the world's top fitness health and entertainment podcast, we answer fitness and health questions asked by listeners and viewers, just like you. But the way we open the episode is with the introductory portions where we talk about studies, current events, we talk about our lives, we mention our sponsors. That portion of today's episode lasted about 40 minutes, then the rest was answering the fitness questions. Let me give you a rundown of this whole podcast, okay? We start out by talking about nurse slang. Justin's wife was a nurse for years and she informed them all the slang that they use. They're secretly mean, Sal. Yeah, Code Brown. I talk about my post-workout meal, actually the guys made fun of me for my post-workout meal concoction, which included a lot of stuff, but among them was Organifize Plant Protein and Organifize Green Juice. I love those supplements. The protein is high quality, dairy free, it's vegan, great amino acid profile. Their green juice has greens that are already freeze dried, broken down for easy absorption. I love those for post-workout shakes. Because we work with Organifi and because you're a mind pump listener, you actually get a discount. Go to organifi.com, that's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com, forward slash mind pump. Use the code mind pump, you'll get 20% off all their products. Then we talked about Amazon being investigated, had a great debate and discussion. Got a little hot on the podcast about Amazon and what they would do in the future and what they're doing now. Is it unethical? Is it ethical? And great discussion, great debate. You'll love that part. Then I talked about a ghost that woke up a baby with a monitor. Uh-oh, that's kind of crazy. Then I talked about how my wife, who is now entering into her third trimester, is using the Juve Red Light to help prevent the development of stretch marks. 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How do we get them to start working out and eating right? And the last question, this person wants to know if there's any lessons that Adam, Justin, and myself have had to learn more than once. It's funny because I think all the lessons we've had to learn more than once. Like a gajillion times. That's right. Also, before the episode starts, reminder to all of you, Maps Strong, one of our more popular workout programs is 50% off, half. It's half price. Now, Maps Strong is excellent for building muscle strength and for work capacity, improving your recovery ability so you could do more exercises. It is a Strongman-inspired program. That means you'll have conventional exercises and other unconventional strength-building exercises. It's posterior chain heavy. What does that mean? That means you're gonna do a lot of back, butt, and hamstring exercises. Strongmen need those muscles. The rest of us, just like the way they look, Maps Strong produces amazing backs, butts, and hamstrings. Here's how you get the 50% off. Go to mapsstrong.com. That's M-A-P-S-S-T-R-O-N-G.com. And then use the code Strong50. That's S-T-R-O-N-G-5-0, no space for the discount. Dude, so I was talking to Courtney the other day about something, and something came up. Have you ever heard of the term code brown? Is that when people shit themselves in the hospital? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like this is like slaying, like nurses have all this slaying for a certain instance. Cause I think it was, we were talking about like when the kids were young and then there was this like huge explosion of poop and then had to clean. And she said, this code brown. And... Did they announce it? It's like a real thing. Do they do it through the intercom? Like we need help. Yeah. Room 45, code brown. I think they do amongst each other. They have like names for all these different types of patients and all these different types of scenarios and things, it's pretty funny. I was like looking at it and I wanted to read a few of them just cause they're interesting. One of them was called a chocolate hostage. What? You guys guess what that is? Something to do with poop. Yeah, of course. Chocolate hostage, another term for constipation or having difficulty passing stools. Oh, so I get this cause I remember this with... Chocolate hostage. I had a family member who was in the hospital and they wouldn't let them leave until they farted or pooped. Yeah. This is a true thing. Yeah, cause they gotta pass, you know, get the sound. Yeah, so they're a hostage. They're a hostage. Yeah, I love these. It is a yellow submarine. It's a little bit mean, actually. This is an obese patient with jaundice. Oh, wow. They have a PETA, which literally stands for pain in the ass. Slashers and cutters and they're referring to actually surgeons as they call them slashers and cutters, so I thought it was kind of funny. Happy juice. This is the cocktail of narcotics and then you got status dramaticus and this is patients who demonstrate their symptoms more dramatically in hopes of getting quicker medical attention. Yeah. I need more Vicodin. I need it. Then you got the bungee jumper, which is it's code for a patient who keeps on pulling his catheter tube. And then let's see, my favorite one, this will be the last one, is finger painting. And this is when a demented patient soils themselves and plays with it. Wow. So you have to, I mean. Now, okay, did you play this game with Courtney where you quizzed her on all this and she could answer all of them? Oh yeah, she has way more to add to this too. This was just like a few of them that I found like. I was trying to remember because she went through a list of all these things, like they have terms for like everybody. It's hilarious. Dude, so slaying only develops when things happen enough times. Yeah. Where you develop language around it. Sure. This is crazy because that means that that happens a lot. Yeah. So it's like known amongst all of them. They could just like throw these terms out and they're like, oh, okay. I know what I'm in for. You guys ever have a Code Brown yourself? Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah, dude. I was walking at a car show one time and I had eaten something obviously volatile and was walking around. And it was one of those where it just like hits like immediately where you just have to pinch hard and run and I didn't make it. And I had to throw my underwear away. Did you really? Yeah. Just bailed, yeah. You just tossed them? Just threw them away. I mean, what else are you gonna do? There's nothing you can do. No. Yeah, there's nothing you can do. Super embarrassing. Yeah, almost same story happened to me where now what happened to me sometimes and it's gonna be a little gross, but you get that feeling and you think you could relieve a little bit of pressure by letting the gas out. Right. So you do the whole game where you try to separate the gas from the bits. You know what I mean? And let me tell you, that's a risky game to play, Adam. Yeah. You gotta have those guys at the gate holding strong. Didn't happen. No. I have a topic I wanna get into with you guys so I'm gonna hear your opinions. This could get, we'll see. We'll get interesting what you guys feel about this. But before we do, you just finished your workout this morning and I come walking down the stairs and I see you making some ridiculous concoction. What are you doing right now? You're always doing something weird and adding all kinds of stuff to shakes and drinks. You make like elixirs. Yeah. What were you making? Well, it's the secret of my immense muscle growth. Secret of the use. You ever had the Ninja Turtle movie? No, no, no. So I've been doing this for a long time. Okay. So I... Oh, it looked new to me. No. So poop, post workout. Poop? No, post workout. I still had that in my head, right? I know. Post workout. There are a few things you could do to, and this is splitting hairs, okay? So I want the audience to know, it's not like you do this and then a week, you're like, whoa, this changes everything. But it does, if you're dialed in with everything been trained for a long time and you like doing this kind of stuff, this can actually make a difference. So post workout, a high cholesterol meal really does help with the recovery and muscle building process. Your body, people don't know this, but post workout cholesterol levels drop because your body's literally utilizing the cholesterol for repair and rebuild. Cholesterol is also the building blocks for anabolic hormones like testosterone. In the past, body builders and strength athletes would increase their dietary cholesterol and they would do so with lots of chicken liver and egg yolks and they'd notice gains. So I noticed this as well. So here's what was my shake, okay? I got macadamia nut milk. I can't have dairy, otherwise it'd be regular milk. Macadamia nut milk, I put eight egg yolks, mainly because I don't want the whole egg in there because egg whites can bother me a little bit. So I just ate egg yolks. Then I added to add more protein because there's all the cholesterol, right? There's plenty of cholesterol right there. There's a lot, yeah. There's a lot. And it's got choline too, I forgot to say that. Choline is very good for cognitive function and there may be some benefits for recovery as well. And egg yolks, very high in choline. Then I add protein powder because I want it to have higher protein content. And you can't have whey because of your tummy. No, I don't have whey, so I do the Organifi plant protein. And the reason why I use them, besides us being sponsored, is because they combine different forms of plant proteins, creating a better amino acid profile. So I put a scoop of that in there, vanilla. Then I used the Organifi green juice powder and I throw that in there because it's got basically the broken down, the pre-digested, freeze-dried greens that are gonna add some health properties. It's got a little bit of ashwagand in there. Ashwagand is great for stress reduction. I had a really hard workout this morning. So I thought it'd be a good idea to offset it a little bit with the green powder. And then I added Organifi's pure powder. Jesus. Because... It's got the old kitchen sink in there, huh? Because I knew we were gonna podcast later and I wanted to be... I wanted to be a T-shirt, man. I wanted to be a T-shirt. How thick is that? It sounds like a T-shirt too. How to taste. You know what? A baby throw-up. The protein powder gives it a better flavor. The green juice is actually pretty good. Yeah, now the green juice. Gives you a little mint kick. Not gonna lie though, egg yolks, I don't drink those for the taste. Did you guys ever go through a phase of that after watching Rocky? Did you guys ever drink raw eggs? Yeah, 100%. I tried it, but I didn't go in a phase. It was like a... You just did it once? Yeah, yeah, I tried it and I was like, yeah, that's not... Oh, I started with the glass thing with just the raw eggs and then it was like, oh, oh, oh, oh. I would almost throw up every time and then started to mix it in with this ridiculous weight gainer 5,000 stuff with peanut butter and it was like this explosion that would happen every time. Yeah, so I did try the raw eggs in the glass and it's the texture and everything. It's just, you know, it's terrible. But you can blend it. Then I'm like, why don't I just blend this? What's the difference? And I did and I would make shakes with it. Probably better that way. So here's the conversation I want to get into now that we cleared up your concoction there. Crazy, weird concoction. I know there's some listeners out there that would do weird shit. Oh, they're gonna try it, for sure. Of course, right. I like to hear what everyone else thinks about how that tastes. So are you guys following the recent news with Amazon? No, what's going on? They're under investigation right now. Why? So this is what they're claiming that is going on that Amazon is using data on its consumers to leverage and build competitive products. So Amazon right now has lots of third party people that sell on Amazon, right? You know that, okay. And in fact, a majority of that comes from competitors selling their products on Amazon. But Amazon has all this data to look at everyone's buying what they're buying, how much they're spending at what average cost. And so they can use that data to then go like, oh, Duracell makes batteries and sells it at this cost on ours. And everybody likes it for these reasons or whatever? Yeah, exactly, for all these reasons. So let's make a competitive version of that for a dollar cheaper and basic. This is what I speculated would happen with the supplement industry once Amazon got into that is what is the stop them from doing, getting the best product of that's being sold already through Amazon and competing. Reverse engineering it and then selling it for a little bit less. I'd like to know what the grounds of the investigation are. Is it because they didn't let the competitors who are posting on there know that they would do this? Or is it because they think it's- So this is where it gets interesting. And this is why they're saying this is unfair business practices. Over 60% of Amazon's money comes from the cloud. So that's most of their profits come from people- Selling storage. Yes, selling storage. So only a small, not a small, but I mean still bajillions of dollars, okay? There's that number again. I know, right? I like using it when I don't have real numbers to give people. So many zeros. It's a lot. It makes you blind. It's a lot is what I'm saying, right? So they make a lot of money through the selling cloud, more of their money through selling the cloud, less money through stuff that they sell on Amazon. Therefore, it gives them the leverage to basically take a loss on all. Virtually what they could do is anybody and everybody that pretty much sells on Amazon, other third-party products, right? If we had something on there, Duracell like I use as an example, whatever, name it. They have the capability and they have so much capital and money- To cannibalize your business. They could literally cannibalize everybody's business. And that's the grounds of the investigation? Yeah. That's stupid. Why? Because that's, what's unfair about that? They're competing freely. There's nothing illegal there. And here's the other thing. Amazon's platform is based off of the fact that I could go there. So here's what Amazon did. A lot of people don't realize. They flipped the funnel upside down. What used to happen before Amazon got big was you wanted to find a product to buy online. You type it into Google and then you would go through and shop different sites to find the best product. Amazon did such a good job of showing you all these different products with good reviews and you trust Amazon. Because that's the thing, back in the day you got on a site, like do I trust them? Do I give them my credit card? Am I gonna get the product? Amazon did such a good job that almost nobody now go, or at least a very small percentage of people go on Google to search for a product. They go straight to Amazon. So Amazon became the top of the funnel. So now that's a good thing. Obviously consumers like this, but their platform is built on giving you so much variety. I don't see it being in Amazon's best interest to eliminate all their competition because then you're gonna go to Amazon and you're just gonna see Amazon stuff because everyone's gonna leave. Well, that's not necessarily true. I think so. No, that's not necessarily true. They're gonna have to completely change the platform. What's to stop Amazon from pulling a Chuck E. Cheese move? What? Okay, Dave, let's do it. So instead of- Animatronic? No, no, no, no, no, no. Knucklehead, no. When I said, never had Chuck E. Cheese started selling pizza under a different name. What's to stop Amazon from, and let's just keep staying with this Duracell analogy. What it's to stop them to literally reproduce gave reverse-engineer- Maxwell batteries. Duracell batteries and brand it under something else besides Amazon. So it just looks like a competitor company that's providing superior product. Will never happen. I'll tell you why it won't happen. Because we've already had how many decades of open markets and dominant forces or dominant competitors and they never do that. That doesn't work. It doesn't work wrong though. We are in it here, and I'm playing devil's advocate. Well, give me an example. We are in a situation with somebody who has way more money and the ability to do that. Okay, give me an example. Another company would have to risk so much more to take that chance to beat out a competitor, to undercut, take a loss. Companies do that all the time. That happens a lot, but no one has had as much power as Amazon to do that in this position. They have that power over probably thousands. How many companies, or third-party companies are there? Well, I just look at what they've already sort of disrupted. They actually have, if you guys seen their version of like QVC, so it's like a prime, it's like that same format where you're on TV and you're selling those products. Literally, they're gonna take over that market, right? They took over that. So what is your thought about it? This has never happened. This is the common- That doesn't mean that it can't. Okay, okay. Yes, in theoretical land, but here's the thing. Okay, markets have been around for a long time. We've had oil companies that have dominated, yet there's still other oil companies. We've had entertainment companies that have dominated. We still have lots of it. We've had clothing companies. We've had food manufacturers. We've had car companies. There's always competition. The whole monopoly, uh-oh, watch out for this competitor that's so powerful that they're gonna monopolize the market. Never happens unless the following happens. Government comes in and creates large barriers for competitors to enter the market. Okay, so you're partially correct. Well, historically, I'm 100% correct. Yeah, exactly. Historically, but it doesn't mean that we haven't seen, there was a time when we never seen a rocket go to a moon. It doesn't mean something can't happen, bro. It's not the same. I mean, yes it is. It's innovation. We are seeing Amazon do something that no one's ever done. God damn, you said this the other day. If you made $180,000 a day from the day that Jesus Christ died to today, you still would have less money than Jeff Bezos. Now listen, I'm not saying that that's an unfair thing. The guy created something that so many people love that he's made a ton of money. I'm not saying that that's not fair. What I'm saying is it's very possible to do exactly what I'm saying. It is very possible for if he's making billions on billions of dollars through selling the cloud, so he's got this secure place of income that protects him to then go into this other side of their business and undercut every single person to put them out of business. Okay, never will happen. Okay, his story- And why? No, no, no, you cannot, I'm not gonna let you use history as an explanation of why something can't happen in the future economically. It's the only evidence that we have. There is no evidence to what you're saying. What you're saying is purely theoretical, has never happened. Right, but your way to refute that is just, because of history, it hasn't happened before? Well, let me go further. That would be like someone arguing with me before the moon saying that, sorry, can't happen, we've never done that. Let me go further, okay, I'll go further. So Jeff Bezos, a lot of money, Amazon, a lot of money. Okay, if you look at it in comparison to GDP in comparison to their competitors in comparison to inflation, he has less money than the tycoons of the past. He has less power than the Vanderbilts and the Rockefellers and Ford. Well, okay, challenge that. No, not necessarily. They may have had more capital or more money compared to their time, but the control that he has because of the platform. That's not true. Rockefeller had railroads under control. He created oil and what he did is drop the price of oil to the point where the government was like, uh-oh, no one can compete. The reality is there still were competitors. Look now, how much does Amazon dominate the market? I guarantee it's not 99%. Guaranteed's a lot less than that. And also look at it this way. Today, the barriers to do anything in the market are way lower. If you wanna start a business and sell your products online today, it's infinitely easier than it was before Amazon existed or before the internet existed. We had to have capital to do a business or look at media, look what happened with media. Do we have media giants? We absolutely do. And what's happening? You're seeing more competition. So now if the problem is that Amazon lies to the people who are posting on their vendors. Well, I think that's part of the, part of the problem. All of it's good for the consumer at the end of the day. It's just a matter of life. Agreed, agreed on that. Agreed that this is better for the consumer no matter what. And here's the thing. If that theoretical thing happens, which it won't, but if it does, all right, then we step in. But the problem, here's what they do. They create this fear, this is what government does, right? They see a power emerging. Uh-oh, we don't like that, especially because we're not collecting as much money as we want. So what they do is they create this. This is the same, by the way, this is the same narrative that's been said for ever, ever since markets really started becoming effective, especially in the Western world, America and the UK and all those Western nations. This is the same narrative that they always push. And so here's what happens. You see a company explode. Then you say, oh my gosh, they're gonna start taking over everything. Here's what we need to do. We need to create regulations, laws and barriers. Reality is they start to partner with these companies and make them become more powerful. Well, I don't think I necessarily challenged what you're saying in that case. I'm just saying that I think you're wrong by saying that it can't happen. I think it absolutely can't. Now am I saying that that's unfair and that we should govern and not allow it? I'm not saying that either. I'm just an advocate for the free market as you are. Let the market dictate it. But what I am saying is this could potentially fucking train wreck tens of thousands of companies. Well, and for you to debate that that's not possible with the power that they have and the capabilities they have, I think is absurd. No, I didn't debate that they won't outcompete you. Yes, you did. You said that would not happen. Were you exact words? No, what's not gonna happen is they're not going to monopolize everything and eliminate all competition. Now are they going to force companies to figure out ways to compete? Absolutely. Amazon has already put other companies out of business. Just like Barnes and Nobles did with Bookstores, whatever. But they also simultaneously created far, far, far more opportunities. Uber basically destroyed the taxi business, but they opened up far more opportunities. Netflix destroyed the rental market. And these are all points. I'm not debating with you. I'm not debating that. You're just saying that they could grow and become even more. What I'm saying is they could literally... Big businesses need to be aware of that. Exactly. My point is if you're selling on Amazon and 80% of your revenue goes through Amazon and you're making millions of dollars and you're over there high-fiving each other and jerking each other off, you better wake up. You better wake up. It's the same concern I had back in the day presenting in front of a company like Apple and people don't talk about this, but anytime you have a patented product or if it's slightly patented, you're presenting it to a mega company, they're gonna fucking just deconstruct it and find ways around your patent and do it if they find that it's successful. But so you just gotta be aware of that and know that like, okay, well, how long is it gonna take me to get to market? Am I okay with having competition? Remember what I said about supplements like three years ago and Amazon? Like I said that the reason why I would never wanna get into a supplement space is because I literally think that Amazon just doesn't give a shit about it right now. Because it's still in the hundreds of millions or maybe a couple billion, which is for Amazon, small potatoes. Yeah, pocket change. Right, for them, they're trying to change transportation and mail and things like that. They're trying to make huge leaps in areas that we haven't in decades. They're like supplement industry that kind of blown up in the last two decades. Let's see if it's around 10 more years and if it's growth forex, then we'll go in and just wipe everybody clean because they literally have that power. What is to stop them right now since probably a majority of people do sell their supplements through Amazon. We know they do. And it's interesting now because brand loyalty isn't a powerful thing anymore. Hell no, reviews are the most powerful. Reviews, and that's what they created. And you control that right now. That's a very powerful place to be. It is, but again, do we have more or less supplement companies today? Do we have more people putting out music or less people putting out music than before? By the way, the music industry completely different than it used to be. The whole fear was, oh my God, they're gonna destroy the industry. So what's happened is we have more music. Do we have more or less, pretty much most products that we did 15, 20 years ago? My conversation to the music industry would have been the same one I'm having right now too. It wouldn't be that I disagree with the disruption of it. I mean, we're disruptors in our space. We're a pro that, but it's more to put everybody on notice. Like be careful if you are making a tremendous amount of money through Amazon and you're content with that right now because that very much so could bite you in the ass by what we're talking about right now. The one thing I could see them getting in trouble for is would be lying or not disclosing that. So what they're doing is they're allowing people to go. I think they didn't disclose it. That's a problem. Now that's, if you sign a contract, you gotta be honest, here's what's happening. Here's what I'm doing with your information. That I'm 100% behind that. But if they do disclose it, and they do tell you, hey, this is something we can do, and you're on there and they do it, then. I imagine, I see I've never sold on Amazon like this, but I would imagine that just like Facebook or Instagram, you have it. It's on the small print. Yeah, I imagine there's a disclaimer that you are releasing your data and information so Amazon could better serve its customers. Well, it's on our platform we can use it. Well, dude, before Amazon, definitely before the internet, but definitely before also Amazon, if you wanted to start a supplement company, I'm very, very aware of this industry. It's something that I've loved and I want to start a supplement company. I want to start a GNC. If you wanted to start a supplement company, good luck. You either had to be a famous bodybuilder, an actor, or be somebody that was in all the publications. Otherwise, a brand new supplement that comes out, nobody's going to give a shit about, nobody's going to want to buy, you're going to have to get the GNCs to carry it, you're going to have to get, go to the fitness conventions, who's going to pay attention to me if I'm not a pro bodybuilder? Yeah, your argument is it's just different hurdles. Now, with Amazon, do you know how many new supplement companies have started and have made it to seven and eight figures because they're posting good content? Amazon has the review system, which gives companies the ability to- Yeah, but you could also look at that as like letting the wolf in the hen house too. Maybe. You know what I'm saying? Like, sure, come on in. Everybody come on in, come on in. Like, oh, you could build more businesses so that now we have more opportunity to wipe off. Well, look at the music industry, right? What you had before were these mega, mega, superstar, super wealthy musicians who had a record label and the only way to get there, your favorite song was to buy the album and you did and it was expensive and now you have where you could buy music for $0.99. Sometimes you can get it for free. So what did that do? Well, the mega wealthy musician that's just selling records, that's going to drop, but you're going to have a lot more millionaire musicians who are going to have like a million fans or 500,000 fans. And you're also going to see these musicians, you've already seen this now, pushing more for concerts and in person, something that you... Oh, they have to sell merch. I mean, it's the thing they have to do now. Yeah, so... So, I mean, do you ever think that there's ever a reason for government to step in and not allow a company like Amazon to gain too much power? Not unless they're doing, if they're lying... Right, right. Everything's up on the up and up. Oh, no. I'm saying, I'm sure, and I'm sure they were. I'm sure you signed away your data and information when you got on there and they, I think legally Amazon will probably win this battle and they will have the ability to do those things and is that okay? At what point does a company get more powerful than government? It's... Well... When it can control a large portion of our economy and dictate things... It's already... I mean, here, okay. This is another path, but you know, when... Facebook's gone through that in other countries. Well, when the government plays an active role in the market, there's a very, very strong incentive for companies to lobby and to influence government. That's what we're at now. That's why political elections are billions of dollars. It's because companies know the government plays an active role. It makes sense for them to try to lobby, to influence. So that's already happening. But at the end of the day, the one with the guns is the government. It's not the companies. And so that's the big thing. But the reality is they partner. I mean, let's be honest. They partner with each other and what big business does is it says, I'll help you get elected. Which is... If you pass these laws, that make it hard for people to... Croning capital. Yeah, that's like the worst. That's the absolute worst. It's the unholy alliance of big business and government. But if it was just straight market and a company got really, really powerful, that would only be because the consumers allowed that to happen. You're the ones that... We're the ones that say... I know. And I don't disagree with you. And it still opens the opportunity for someone else to come in and create a better version of Amazon. We're seeing that over in South Korea right now, I think is where I brought that up before. Oh, really? Yeah, that they're building a platform that's supposed to... Remember, I brought this up on the podcast. I think I brought it up and it was in my notes to talk about it, was there's a company, I believe in South Korea, Doug, and I forget the name of it, but they're basically Amazon's competitor. And their big push to beat out Amazon in their country is that they guarantee if you order before midnight, your package will be on your door by 7 a.m. the next day. Holy cow. Yeah. Now, they're a tiny country, so they can manage that. They can manage that a lot easier than Amazon worldwide trying to compete with that. You know, Walmart... But that's an example of what you're talking about right now. Like, they can do that within their country. And if you're in South Korea, you may choose that company over Amazon because they can provide a better service, right? So... Walmart can compete, I think, if they want, you know, because they have so many locations, so they have the ability to deliver very quickly. They have a lot of money. They're very, very successful business. I know that they have their own cloud or they're building their own cloud to compete. So I think Walmart could potentially be... So that was always the argument I heard from, you know, execs that work for Amazon, why Amazon will always dominate is because they own all the cloud. And no matter what, even if you build a competing business with them, you will need... They'll service the cloud. Exactly. So they will still traffic all that money through their cloud and that's where they'll make most of their profit anyway. So it's like they got both ends of the funnel. Hey, speaking of technology, I wanted to ask you, Adam, because, you know, I have a baby coming in a few months and baby monitors have changed since I had my kids. I used to have them where you just listen to them. Now it's like a camera. Yeah, you watch everything. You could look through the camera and look at the temperature of the baby. You could, you know, move the camera around. It's got night vision. You could talk. It's like ridiculous. It's insane. Surveillance. But I was reading this article, so I wanna ask you if this happened to you, where people's cameras were picking up other conversations or they're picking up weird things. Like there was one family who thought there was a ghost because they saw this image pass through the room and the baby woke up. And I'm wondering if it was just interference. Did you get, have you heard or seen anything weird? So I've had interference. Yeah, maybe once or twice, I think. I mean, it's all, think about it. It's all Bluetooth connectivity. So if there's a house and I live in a townhouse, right? So there's another house nearby that has a NANET camera, which I'm sure, I mean, there's gotta be. I know there's a baby right across the way from me. So I'm sure. So you're some person talking. Right, right. So I'm sure it's like, but it hasn't been that clear where I'm like listening to someone else's conversation. Like it's like a second. Dude, that would scare the shit out of me. Yeah. So interesting you bring this up. This is actually a conversation that I've never brought up on the podcast that I have with Katrina O'Time. So like you, I was helping raise my little brother and sister who were 13 years younger than me. So when I was 12, 13 through 18 years old, I was raising these guys. And back then baby monitors were just sound. That's all you had. It was just a sound that was, the only heard when they cried. And that was just what, and that was like incredible technology, right? But for that time, like you just had to listen to hear if you hear your baby crying, right? So what it has done though, and I just, I don't do this. Katrina does. I mean, Katrina obsessively watches him obsessively. And to her, it's, I mean, this is her first kid, her first time raising me that this technology is already around. She doesn't know what it's like to have a baby monitor that only you can hear sound. And for her, it's like, it's the ultimate safety. Like she can see him at all times. I mean, he moves and we get a notification. Yeah, it picks up movement. Yeah, right away. It moves right away. And it tracks all his like, his time he was sleeping. If he wrestled, or if he moved around at all. I think some of them will even look at heart rate. Oh yeah, I have all that. I have the heart rate, the temperature in the room, the temperature of him like. Yeah. So that would just make me paranoid. Oh, I don't watch it. Yeah. I don't watch it. It's too much. We're here right now, right? So I'll admit this. Then you can pull it up on your phone. Yeah, I can watch him right now. So we can watch, and I can communicate to him right now. So I do that, like we're away right now, so I miss him, right? So, and I'll see activity, movement. And so I'll look on it and sometimes I'll talk to him because I can do that. That's so interesting. So that's cool. There's cool features about it, but then there's also the obsessive part where I've joked about, I think off-the-air to you guys about like, you know, Katrina trying to have sex with me while she's holding the fucking camera. I'm just like, hey, this is not working for me. You know what I'm saying? Like I know mom's gotta get hers right now and stuff like that, but could you at least put my son up on the dresser for like 15 minutes here? Totally. But she is, she's like, well, I don't want to not hear him if he starts crying. I'm like, oh, he'll be fine for 15 minutes. Give me a break here. Well, you know what it makes? It's just, it's starting as soon as they're born and it just continues, because then the kids have cell phones. So my son goes somewhere and I'm like, hey, text me when you get there. Text me when this happens. If I call, I expect you to answer the phone. And I catch myself with that because I wonder what that creates in the kid, this dependency or this like, they'd lose independence. Cause when I was a kid, you went out to play, you were out, you were gone. I can already tell in our relationship, it'll be me challenging that all the time of me, just let him go, let him go figure it out. Just be back by the sun, I'll be that dad and she'll be the one like, if we go out where I want to text message it, I can see that that. Oh, I could see like you're looking at your phone and your kid is down. You're like, oh, my daughter's heart rate's going up. What's happening at the party? Honey, why is your heart rate going up? This parallels what I was thinking about this in terms of like, the state of our world, are we really like, is it that much more crazy than it's always been? Or is it just the fact that like these incidents that happen in a city that's like way across the country or like these pop-ups of eruptions that normally we wouldn't even have known about unless you're in local news. Oh, totally. It's just bombarded. And now all of a sudden you're just creating all this like excess amount of anxiety and stress of everybody else's problems. That's it, because the numbers prove it. The numbers prove it that today is the safest time to be alive, especially if you're a kid. Kidnappings were higher when we were kids. Violence, murder, everything was worse when we were kids. Things are significantly better. So it's 100% that. I remember there was a, there was this, I don't know if it was an Instagram page or it was like a social media page somewhere where it was teenagers or kids posting videos of their friends getting like so drunk that they'd collapse or throw up or whatever and they'd make fun of it. And I remember parents were like, oh my gosh, I can't believe this is, and they were all freaking out. And it made me think to myself, gosh, if there was a camera around me all the time when I was like 15, 16, 17, you know, the stuff that could have got caught, I mean, I don't even wanna say on the plane. Teenagers do some stupid shit. Luckily nobody had a camera. Luckily nobody was able to film. It's all captured now. It's all captured. It'd be interesting what it's going to do. I mean, I think it's gonna be the responsibility of parents to pay attention to that and to understand the value of allowing the kid to create independence and probably the detriments of what happens if you hover over them too much and you will have to actively do it as parents. It'll be your responsibility to be self-aware of when you're doing that too much. You know what I'm saying? And lucky for me, I have a partner who I think is extremely self-aware of that. You know, I give her a little bit of shit and I gave her a little shit on the podcast just now about her obsessively watching it. But at the same time too, she looks at me and she's, I mean, she's in love with her son and adores him and she's just watching. Natural. Yeah. So I'm like, there's a part of me that, and I get it, I'm away right now. Last night, we all left each other and went to bed. I went to bed and watched my son sleep, you know what I'm saying? Like for about 10 minutes, just looking at him. Like, so, you know, I can't get, she just, I get it. You know what I'm saying? And I think that as he starts to get older and it becomes more important that he has more independence, I think that she's self-aware enough to catch herself if she's, you know. Yes, can become a discipline of like allowing them to develop and figure things out themselves without like, ah, getting your fingers in there, you know, and, you know, like influencing. There was one more question I want to ask you, Adam. When Katrina was pregnant, because one of the issues, one of the fears that, you know, and I think it's common with women as they have, as they go through pregnancy, one of the fears that Jessica has is it has to do with stretch marks, stretch marks that are going to happen because obviously you're growing so quickly and all that stuff. Oh yeah. Did Katrina use the, the juve light during pregnancy or post pregnancy for stretch marks? Katrina was religious about not only the juve light, but she did the whole, and I know there's like people that agree and disagree with the whole like cocoa butter thing. Sure, yeah, Courtney was on that too. She did, she did all, like every night, every time she was out of the bath. So probably two, three times a day she was doing that. She was hitting the juve at least one or two times a day for 10 minutes at a time. So she, that was like, I never really said anything to her. It was like her thing that I could tell that she did not want to have like these massive stretch marks and she wanted to do whatever. And part of that also was managing her diet. Like Katrina was very dialed with her nutrition. So she didn't want to put on any more extra weight than she needed, right? She wanted to carry enough weight for the baby to be healthy and eat what the baby need to. But she was very disciplined not to go off. Like Katrina did not go through a dessert kick and over-consuming and adding an extra 15 pounds that she didn't need for the baby's health on her. And in addition to that, doing the cocoa butters like crazy, doing the juve light like crazy, and she is nothing. Well, yeah, so, because when you research stretch marks, there's no research to support the creams and the lotions and the oils. In fact, they say it won't do anything. It's all genetic. But the red light therapy does have good evidence. It's got actual studies done showing that it reduces the appearance of stretch marks once you have them, but also it could prevent stretch marks. Well, this is like the discoloration. That's how she started was, I saw her doing the cocoa butter thing and I didn't want to like completely shit on it and be like, hey, there's no real research that says that like, so instead of like, hey, if you're really trying to do that, there's actually some really good research to support. We have a damn juve light in the guest room, use it. And once I told her that, it was like game on. Yeah, yeah, because you look into it and I mean, you have to use it consistently. So, I know they have them in salons and stuff, but the truth is when you look at the studies, people use them consistently on a weekly basis at the very least and for over a period of time. So it's not like you use it once or twice and then boom, it has to be done over time, but the studies are conclusive. It's one of the very few things that can help with stretch marks. So that's what I have Jessica on. I wanted to ask you what your guys' experience was, so. First question is from Mostofacin. How does body type affect your way of working out? Should a person consider a specific amount of weight or training methods if they have a mesomorph, ectomorph or endomorph body type? I think this question is because have you guys seen a lot of, I've seen a ton of Instagram ads around this, right? Yeah, like it's become really a popular angle is to market to people by their semantotypes, ectomorph, endomorph, mesomorph, and say that, oh, if your body type is like this, you should be eating and training this way and not like this. And that could be the reason why you're not getting results. I've seen the, have you seen the one, the female version where they have pair, they have like, there's almost like 15 different versions, they're trying to narrow it down for them. This is such a, and this is marketing 101, so people get this. You're hitting a major pain point. Everybody, including myself, right? Like I want to believe that, even if there is some truth to it, I want to believe that it's much harder for me to build muscle than it is Justin. Justin is at a much higher advantage than me to build muscle because of- He's definitely thick. Because of his bone structure and, you know, so he has that advantage. And the reason why I'm not more buff is because of that, because of my body type. And maybe that's why, because I've been not eating correctly for my body type and my training. So that's a major pain point for a lot of people. So it's a great way to market, but that's really all the real weight to it. There's not a lot of truth to this. Yeah, this reminds me of, do you guys remember when they had the whole, are you a pair? Are you an apple? If you're this, then you need to eat this way. They're still marketing like that. Yeah, so, okay, so those somatotypes were created in the 1940s. There was a psychologist, William Herbert Sheldon, I think is his name, who came up with this. And he was trying to be used like taxonomy, right? Taxonomy is classifying animals. And so he said, oh, we can classify humans into these three categories. It's been widely- Isn't it rooted in eugenics? Well, sometimes, yeah. He didn't necessarily know much about it. I know somebody, yeah, tied it into that. But it's been widely debunked because most people don't fit neatly into any of those categories. Most people are a combination of a lot of those things. Now here's my opinion on training your body for its classific, you know, how it is a body type or whatever. At the end of the day, there's something that trumps that by far, which is your own individual self, okay? What you don't wanna do is fall into a pattern of, I train this way because I look like this, or because my body shape is this way. And then you ignore your own body's individual signals. When I train clients one-on-one, I, you know, just looking at them, I never developed a routine based off just looking at them. My routine was based off of how their body responded, how they moved, their own lifestyle, all that trumped it. Even male and female, here's the deal. Like there are clearly two biological categories of male and female sex. And generally speaking, there are differences between men and women, everything from hormones to fat distribution to, you know, lots of things I can generally say about men and women. But I still don't say men train this way, women train this way, because at the end of the day, it's all individual. It's all based on the individual. It would be nice if it was that simple. It would. And that's, I think that's the, you know, the key factor is that people want something that's so straightforward, so simple, and it's gonna work for them right away. And so they're looking for that. And so marketers know that. And so they want, they know how to basically present that in front of you. Like this is the answer that I was looking for and it's speaking to me, because I do fit within this description and this type of body type and all these things. Unfortunately, you know, there's a lot more education that needs to happen in self responsibility and understanding of, you know, like your body signals, all these different factors and genetic factors that you're bringing into working out. Yeah, I would say that here's the most important things if you wanna, you know, base your workout and diet off of information. Number one, your goal. Number two, your lifestyle. Number three, you know, how you feel during the workouts, your behaviors, what you enjoy to do. Those are the most important things. Those are the most important things. I'll give you an example of that, right? I could, we could do some crazy analysis of an individual. I could do all kinds of biometric readings and biology and we could test your gut flora and do all this. And I could say to you, hey, Steve, we did all this complicated. It took, you know, $50,000 with a test or whatever. Based off of our research, the most effective form of cardio for you is gonna be to wake up at 5.15 a.m. and go swim in a cold lake. Now, if Steve hates that, never wants to do it, guess what, it doesn't matter. It doesn't work. Because we're looking at long-term success. None of that matters, right? So that's why it's important to consider that. Not only that, but there is even a massive variance day to day and week to week. True. Maybe that's perfect for Steve tomorrow. But then Steve, that gets bad news at work, gets terrible sleep the next day. Steve goes on a drinking binge. And here's the truth. Justin said it would be nice, but it would be awful for us. We'd eliminate our jobs. I mean, that would be- Oh, we'd just pump out like a very specific, you know, PDS, like here. Yeah, but then it would be done, right? Yeah, it's done. There would be no reason to have conversations like this afterwards, right? Because it would be that specific. It's like, oh, here's your body type. Here's what you're supposed to be eating. Here's how you're supposed to be training. Go follow it. Just spits it out of a machine. Yeah, we'd be done, right? And many people could duplicate it. But really, that's what makes a great coach, a great coach is able to adjust on the fly like that is to know to ask the right questions from the client to get the proper feedback, to then make the best educated guess. And I say guess because we always are kind of guessing. We don't know. I don't know physiologically what's going on in everybody's body at every moment. And that's what makes us so unique and beautiful is there's so many things that are happening moment to moment that you can never just categorize a type of person or people in a group that this is how they should eat, this is how they should train, this is how they should sleep. Nah, it just doesn't work that way. The best we can do as coaches is to help educate and form the listener or the client as much as possible so they can learn to read some of these signals and make the best educated guess. And this is why experience is so important. After you work with people years and years and years, you start to see patterns and your guesses get closer and better and more accurate. Next question is from Coach Dad CT. I don't drink alcohol but my thing is Dr. Pepper. If I have three to five cans on the weekend, am I better off with the natural sugar and calories in the regular one or the diet one with artificial sweeteners? Yeah, I like this question because I think it was Sal who got me to kind of really reevaluate this. I think I've openly admitted on this podcast that I've had this like diet coke thing and I still occasionally have these. Now it's like once a month or once every other month, one finds its way and therefore I'm enjoying it. The other day we had In-N-Out Burger and I like a diet coke with my In-N-Out Burger and I'm there, right? I don't have my Hanson natural sugar option while I'm there. What I've done, though, is to eliminate pretty much drinking diet coke completely is just say, hey, I'm gonna have, and Hanson is a product that I really like. It's a brand that we're not sponsored by them or anything but they have natural sugar and the calories are still pretty minimal. I think it's 130 calories or so for the drink. And what I've noticed is that instead of drinking diet coke and saying, oh, it's zero calories, so allowing myself the freedom to have it every day or twice a day, saying, you know what, I'm gonna make the choice of having something with sugar and knowing that it has 130 calories, I tend to make a better choice. Plus, I notice the way I retain water in my gut. So when I'm doing diet cokes, I definitely get this kind of like inflammation and I definitely feel like I'm holding water, especially in my gut. And when I do natural real sugars, I don't get that. Now it could also be because when I drink a natural sugar drink, I tend to have one and I have one maybe every other day. If I have diet cokes, I could watch myself go from one every other day to one a day to even allowing myself to have two in a day really quickly and maybe it's the over consumption of it that is causing that. Yeah, the problem with this discussion is always that we don't consider the total context. Okay, so is it better to have the sugar drink or the artificial sweetened drink? I don't know, I need to look at the rest of your life. I need to look at your behaviors. Here's the main challenges that I see with artificially flavored drinks. Now forget the whole debate about whether or not the artificial sweeteners are healthy or bad for you. I'm gonna, let's just assume that there's no risk with them, although I think that's baloney. Let's just assume no risk, it just makes your drink taste sweet and so there's no calories in it. Studies show consistently that when people include artificially flavored drinks into their diet or replace sugar drinks with it and they're left to their own devices, they don't lose any weight. Now why is that? Is it because the artificially flavored drinks cause them to gain weight? No, it's because they make up for it by eating other food. Behaviorally speaking, it doesn't cause weight loss. Now if you track everything perfectly and then you cut out sugar and replace it with artificial sweeteners, you'll lose weight because you're going from calories to no calories. But here's the behavior issues I see with artificially flavored drinks is what Adam is talking about. Drinks that have calories and sugar, those have a natural barrier. What I mean by that is there's something that people tend to consider when they drink those sodas. There's a consequence, it's on the can, 130 calories, 30 grams of sugar. That's my consequence. People's behaviors when they do that, especially health conscious people, they tend to limit the drinks or have a few. And that's it. When you have a can of soda that has zero calories, you've eliminated the perception of the consequence. So then you just start to drink the shit out of it. Now what's bad with that? Well, we know that it doesn't reduce your food intake. You end up making up for it. It definitely throws off how you perceive food. So now things that are sweet, naturally, don't taste nearly as sweet. Compare a diet coke to a regular coke and a diet coke is sweeter. Much sweeter. That's the biggest thing that I've noticed. And if I get in a pattern of drinking, even something like that has like a stavia or something that I consider to be like a better option in terms of a sweetener, just like they make up for the fact that the calories aren't in there by really turning up that sweetness. So your body kind of responds like, ooh, that's nice. But then that affects the decisions I make later on in terms of like what I'm craving or what might find its way into my food and like having desserts and things like that. Like it's just my palate starts to then kind of crave that sweetness in other directions. This is exactly what I found. And this is the, like someone's probably listening and going like, well, why can't you discipline yourself to have the one diet coke every other day or few days the same way you do with the Hanson? And that is why. It's because what ends up happening is I have this, you know, artificial sweetened drink that is like super powered tasting sugar and changes my palate. Now when I have a handful of grapes or I bought into an apple, I don't get that same satisfaction. It's not as rewarding. It's not. And so I don't get that same pleasure signal in my brain as I was getting from that diet coke. So then it makes me want more of them. And so I keep chasing that. And so I've, and I really didn't test that this behavior like this until we had brought this up on the podcast. The way I kind of looked at it was like, ah, you know, I'm very aware of my behaviors if I start to see myself go from the diet coke occasionally to the diet coke every other day to the diet coke every day, then all of a sudden I allow myself, and it's always like, if I caught myself doing two diet cokes in a day, I know I've worked my way up. And that's always was my like, okay, time to pull off and I'm really good about doing that. But I never really thought, oh, what if I just allow myself to have a sugar drink when I want it? And will it be easier for me? And you brought that up when this discussion came up before and I actually applied that. And it's been unbelievable. Like, I don't feel I need the diet coke so I don't get caught up in that. When I have a Hanson drink of that, and I tell you what, another reason why I wanted to bring this question up is because I had been in search of a brand like Hanson that I really like. And I found one that's even healthier and even better and has even more flavors that I like that I cannot wait to introduce to our audience because we've been going back and forth for a few months now. Oh, those are the ones that we tried? Yes. So that's getting sealed up right now. So we have a new partner in that space that I'm super pumped about because this definitely, this is a brand that really speaks to me because that has been a long time battle for me is always wanting to revert back to diet cokes. And I feel like this is something that's gonna completely eliminate that. Yeah, one of the big problem that we do in the fitness space is we look at all everything from a mechanistic point of view. Oh, look, no calories. Therefore, it's okay. But we don't look at, we don't look at the big picture. Look, artificial sweeteners have existed now for decades and we still have obesity. It hasn't solved anything. So what happens? Well, it actually encourages, tends to encourage, I should say, a bad relationship with food. Here's a good relationship with food. I want something sweet. Okay, there's some calories in it. That's okay because right now I think I'll enjoy this. A bad relationship with food is consequence-free pleasure seeking. Okay, apply that to anything else in your life. Consequence-free pleasure seeking. There's always a consequence. You think there's no consequence, but there's always a consequence. And your body does become desensitized when you do this often. This is with everything that's gonna happen. With anything that gives you pleasure, sex does the same thing. You can desensitize yourself to the point where what might get you in the mood, no longer gets you in the mood because you've been desensitized because you've exposed yourself to too much, you know, whatever. Same thing with food. So look, I've been training, we've all been training people for a long time. I've never seen somebody fix their nutrition issues by replacing sugar with artificial sweeteners. In my experience, it's never, not only is it not fixed, it usually causes more problems. Next question is from Ty Finnicum. How would you or would you even approach a friend or family member when you can clearly see their health declining or weight getting out of hand? If they are amenable to help, where would you start? You know, this is a question that we get all the time. Yeah, we revisit it a lot. Yeah, and it's a, I struggled with this for a long time. I'm sure you guys did too. Oh man, it's a tough one. I think it took a good decade of being a personal trainer before it really sunk in for me that I can't control the decisions that my family makes. So I went for the first phase of like recognizing that. I can't change what they're gonna do. But then there was a part of me that was frustrated or sad and disappointed. And then I had a whole different realization and that was that this isn't my life, it's their life. And some people get joys out of certain things that I don't see as much of a priority. I think that constantly getting, eating foods that are pleasurable all the time may give me instant gratification but I see the rewards of not eating those foods all the time. And I appreciate them. Some people have never seen that or felt that or can connect with that. Therefore, they don't ever feel they want to and who am I to judge them or tell them how to live their life? The best thing that I could possibly do is to be an example and allow them to see the choices that I make and how fruitful it's been for my life without really saying anything. And hope that they ask the right question to allow me then to help them in that direction. Otherwise, if they're not asking for it, even if it's received temporarily, it's not likely they'll ever stick with it because of that. It just doesn't work. It just never, I've almost ruined relationships. I got to a point with my parents where I'd come over their house and I'd look through their pantry and take things out. Mom, why are you buying this? Dad, why are you doing this? And we'd have dinner. Listen, you guys eat too much of this. And I used to get on their nerves and it was actually starting to ruin the relationship between my parents and I. Look, we can talk about this from a completely different standpoint, one that I think more people will understand, right? Let's talk about religion for a second. How many people find a religion? It changes their life positively. It's like the most remarkable thing in their life. And then they come to you and then they constantly, you got to do this. You got to look at this, read this book. And when it ends up happening, or do they succeed? They often push you in the opposite direction. You turn them off. And they end up doing the opposite of what they thought. I've experienced situations where I've met, where I know people who have a very strong spiritual practice, they don't tell me anything. I just watch them and see how calm they are, how successfully they seem to be. Wow, you seem to have like such a good sense of purpose and meaning. Great relationships. And then I'll ask, how is it that you're like this? And then they'll say, well, it's my spiritual practice. And then I'll say, well, I want to know more. Now I'm open. Now I'm open to learning and listening. It doesn't work trying to hammer into people that they got to eat right. They got to get fit. They got to do this. It just doesn't work. Now there's a flip side to that, of course. If the relationship with that person is causing you lots of issues, and I do think that fitness people have a low tolerance, you need to increase your tolerance. Not everybody sins the same way or whatever. So be a little bit more tolerant. But at some point, if you got a family member that is just doing drugs and is an alcoholic, and you're like, man, this is negative. This is hurting me. Yeah, it's damaging the family or you. Then you just gonna have to say, look, I can't hang around with you anymore. This is out of hand. I know it's your life, but now it's starting to hurt me. But you got to also increase your tolerance. You can't be like, hey, you know, I don't want to hang around with you because I see you eat cupcakes every once in a while. Like, don't be that asshole either, you know? But you're not gonna change anybody by, and listen, I'm telling you, listen, you're listening to a guy who is an excellent salesperson. I can get most people to see my point of view when I really, really want to. Never worked with this, with anybody in my family. They only pushed them away. Well, the religion- So I tried to shed. The religion analogy's beautiful. It's exactly like that. There's nothing more annoying than having somebody try and push their religion on you, but it's totally different when you see something in them that you want or that you're curious about and you ask them about it. So the best thing that you can be is just that example and hope that they ask, why, man, why are you so, you always have energy in the morning and you're always so positive and you're always so happy and oh my God, you just bend over and pick that up and you got to be able to live it and allow them to see it, to ever want to receive it. Right, right. And then eventually what happens is someone said, and this has happened to me too, is that after I did that, people come up to me and say, hey, can you help me with my diet a little bit? Absolutely. Hey, do you think you could help me with a workout? I'm having a little bit. Absolutely. They never would have come to me if I would just continue hammering them. In fact, it would have been like, screw that, I'm not asking that asshole. He keeps beating me up. Because I don't want to be like that. Yeah, that'd be like that. That's a good point to bring up too because I've dealt with this quite a bit and tried to apply the whole modeling aspect of it, especially with my parents and seeing if it, at all, would influence the way that they would eat and whatnot, and it's not been working. And it's been really frustrating. But there are those little moments where they'll be like, you know what, I was curious, like how to lower my inflammation and like doctors said this or that, I'm like, oh, that's a window. And you don't want to overwhelm them with stuff. You just want to address that one question, give them really good information. And so it feels valuable to them. And then back off. And then that leaves more steps for them to take towards you. You got to be humble too and graceful with that. You don't want to, I did this once where... You don't want to throttle all the way in, dude. They come to me like, hey, Sal, I think I'd like, oh man, I've been telling you for like the last, now you come to me. Oh, should I just ruin that moment, right? Yeah, exactly. Next question is from Teenie Tangy. Are there any lessons you have had to learn twice? Oh, shit. Personal, working out. I think... Oh, working out, I learned every lesson 15 times. Yeah, and I feel like that's too easy. I feel like that's too easy if we go the working out. Yeah, like working out too hard. I think every lesson, and I think that's why I think we have so much patience and empathy and I think why we repeat things over and over on this podcast is because I remember, and I'm sure you all remember, a lot of the lessons that we teach, they had to be taught to myself more than once. Like I had to change to do it and then see the results from it and then still go back to old behaviors or habits. And then again, so yeah, let me think of a personal one that comes to mind that I've had to learn. Yeah, the workout ones are easy. It's like, yeah, working out too hard. Yeah, I've learned that one, I don't know, a thousand times, not doing proper mobility work, I still am learning that lesson diet stuff. I learned that shit all the time. It's like, I'll eat something and then afterwards I have, oh, my stomach. And I'll be like, oh, yeah, because you ate that, duh, and then you end up, you have to keep relearning. That happens a lot. And I think, I think the lessons I learned once were the ones that caused a huge consequence. You know what I mean? If like texting in the car, like if I did that and then I hit a car and caused someone an injury, I could see myself learning that lesson because the consequence was so terrible, right? But if it's not that, I don't know very many lessons I haven't had to be exposed to several times in a row. Yeah, I'm trying to think of a good, a personal one. Like, you know, I always talk about how your greatest strength is your greatest weakness, right? So there's things that I tend to lean into because I know that's my strength, but then bites me in the ass many times. And like an example of that is like, I'm assertive. And a lot of times that serves me, serves me in business to take charge, lead, do these things. But then if my social awareness is lacking that day, many times I could really turn somebody off and it could kill a business deal, it could rub somebody the wrong way. And so this is a lesson that I constantly learn. And I don't think I ever, or I should say I'm constantly learning. I don't think I've perfected it, you know, how do you know always like this is the time I lean in hard to the assertiveness or this is the time where I back off, like always trying to refine that. So I'm constantly learning that lesson. That's gotta be a tough one too, because I could see how after you had a situation where maybe you were too assertive, it's easy to defend yourself to yourself, like, well, whatever, screw it, you know? That's just that, that was their bad, you know? For many years, that's how I was. For many years, it was like, I'm an acquired taste. You either, you know, like it is what it is. If you're too weak to stay hang, then, you know. I had that attitude for sure. And, you know, as I got older and wiser, I think, and more socially aware, I think that I've learned to know when to throttle it down and when to pull it back and so, but I'm still, again, it's not a perfected skill. It's something that I'm always trying to harness. I have a similar one to that, but it's more geared towards like, I will jump into anything, like that I feel super passionate about and like an idea or without like, completely sitting down and doing the research, the market research, the, you know, like playing, like drawing it all out in terms of like, you know, the mind map and the business plan and all this kind of stuff, which to me, I felt has been a superpower because it's been able to allow me to make connections with people I wouldn't have before and learn these lessons that I can, you know, build off of and, but the problem is that mentality persists, which then I get myself back in a hole because I jumped in before really, you know, doing my due diligence of research and really like understanding what I was in for. So it's really, to me, it's more of a calculated risk. And so I like learning that lesson like over and over, instead of just jumping in with the risk, because I'm willing to take the risk is to be a little bit more measured in that, but still, you know, find that balance of like, I can still figure this out like as I'm in there, but just do a better job of actually like looking into it first. That just reminded me of something, a lesson that I've learned. It was choosing partners. I've done a lot of business ventures and many of them I've had partners and failed more than once, right? So I made the wrong decision more than once, enough to where I probably thought, oh, I should just never have partners ever again, yet here I am in a four-way partnership, right? Never, never even had. Sexy. Yeah, right? But, you know, I think that in the past, I tended to lean towards just either one, a friend or somebody I felt really comfortable with or somebody who I think had similar characteristics as I did. And I really think that what makes this work is that the things that we have in common are our core values, which I think that's our foundation and that's important. But then we couldn't be more different as far as our strengths in business and that's why it works so well. And I think I didn't learn that, I wouldn't have learned that had I not had multiple partnerships fail and not work in the past to come to this place to recognize that, you know, understand that everybody in this partnership plays a significant role and I could never do Justin, I could never do Salah, I could never do Doug and that's a good thing. And because we have similar values that we always fall back on, that's the core foundation and the partnership. A lot of that stuff wasn't taken into consideration in my 20s when I was partnering up with people. That was a mistake I think I had to learn more than once. I got one that I learned over and over again that was recent. So you talk about greatest strength is your greatest weakness. I like to call that the shadow side of an attribute. So I have a lot of self-belief, self-confidence. I have quite a bit of that but the shadow side of that is arrogance, right? You can get so much self-belief that it makes it hard for you to listen and hear other people. And I'm aware of this, doesn't mean I'm good at it, just means I'm aware of it. So I'm at the phase before I get good at it, I guess. Whatever you wanna call it. But I had this happen with my kids and with Jessica. So Jessica's always telling me that sometimes I'm not present, that I'm not paying attention or my mind is wandering or I'll be on my phone or whatever. And so we were with the kids and we were talking about things that we do. And my daughter goes, yeah, she goes, sometimes you'll start a sentence and you won't finish it. It happens all the time, it's super annoying. And I'm like, what? And my son's like, oh yeah, you do that all the time. I'm like, what do you mean? You'll be like, oh wow, you guys. And then you'll look at your phone or trail off. And she goes, you need to work on that. My daughter says that to me. Now Jessica's been saying that to me for a long time. I have not been listening to her because I'm like, yeah. Anyway, I know, I know me, I know, I know. But I don't, I don't always know me. And so it made me like, okay, I gotta listen more and consider that I may not be aware of something that someone else may be aware of and I gotta be able to consider that. But it was my kids, my kids were like, my daughter was like, yeah, that's a problem. She literally said to me, you need to work on that. Oh yeah, they're brutally honest. Yeah, and everybody was laughing at the table and I'm like, shit, there's another one. We were talking with the kids and I'm like, who's got the worst temper? I'm thinking like, oh, you know, I'm not gonna have the worst temper for sure. And my kids are like, oh, you easily? Like, holy shit, am I that? Not aware of like, then I lose my temper. Dad yells. Yeah, so learning to listen and consider people's either criticisms or complaints of me, especially people around me, that's a lesson that I think I gotta keep working on learning. Look, Mind Pump is recorded on videos as well as audio. Come join us on YouTube, Mind Pump podcast. Watch us, we're just as fun. Look at us. So look at us as we are to listen to us. Also, we are on social media. You can find us on Instagram. Justin is at Mind Pump, Justin. I'm at Mind Pump, Sal. Adam is at Mind Pump, Adam. And Doug, the producer, is at Mind Pump, Doug. I'll give you a chance to walk or whatever. So he walks in front of me and he's walking and he's looking to the left and to the right and then I see him kind of peek back and I have a feeling like this. He's gonna bolt. Does, he bolts. No! Yes, boom! And then I chase him and what do you think he's doing the whole time? Laughing at you. He thinks it's the funnest thing in the world and he's heading right for the intersection.