 Hey, thanks everybody for joining. This is another Microsoft Community Office Hours, Episode 18, and the five of us are here. I'm including Baker in that. He just mentioned in my ear that he appreciates it. I guess that makes him Dr. Bonson-Honey, too. That's right. I'll tell you whatever he says, and he has some good feedback. I do want to hear that once in a while then. All right. How are the questions, the Q&A from the community over the last week, field any questions that are just top of mind that you want to discuss here this morning? I didn't field any, but I have one that is really interesting. I don't know if anybody gets the whole volume of Office 365 update emails whenever there's a change. It's just crazy. The amount of changes that they're doing every week now, it's just like, and they're even stating in the emails that they're slowing stuff down because there's too much change going on at one time across all of their applications. But one that I did see that's really, really cool and Christian, you'll appreciate this if you've used OBS and a technology called NDI. Teams is going to be integrating NDI. You're shaking your head like you guys have already talked about this. No, we haven't talked about it on here. But I've seen the requests, I uploaded that and yeah. It's going to be rolled out in September now. They're going to release it, it's going to be rolled out. If anybody doesn't know what NDI is, it's the network device integration, or network device interface. I think that's the technical term, I'm sure. But that allows you to take a video feed from another network connected device and make that a separate channel that gets fed through your team meeting or webinar or OBS or what have you. Very sweet. Teams. Yeah. For those that aren't familiar, so we use, for example, for this live stream, we're using Streamlabs OBS. But OBS is an open source, it's the open broadcast software. Software, yeah. Essentially, you can run it like a television station. You can have 20 different cameras. If you have the hook at the computer capacity for that and with your video cards, but- Or they're IP based because NDI will allow you to get it based, so. But essentially as different sources, then you can set up your screens or views. And I have this little device, I'll try to pull out a camera here. So this Elgato Stream Deck. And what's nice about this is I can program this in with different views in OBS and essentially just sit here and push a button and it'll fade over or just cut over to different views. And so I've actually set up my home office where I have zones. I'm gonna set up permanently a green screen over in this corner so I can do my little PSAs. But I could also have somebody come in if my dogs would allow it to be interviewed and switch back and forth with video between two cameras. So- Can you set it to do like a hi-hat? Can you push a button? And you know, just let it stay somewhere. I don't have the sound set up here. Snare drum, yeah. It wasn't a priority for me to go in and reset up or to add the sounds into the screens, but I need to do that. And I just thought it was interesting because anybody would be able to do some teams now. So you know, it's gonna be like everybody's gonna be kind of like a video jockey now. They're gonna be like a, you know, remote meeting jockey where they can pretty much just, huh, that's cool. I like that Riz. They'll be able to do like this fancy stuff. It's not comfortable. Virtual backgrounds aren't that big of a deal, but I mean, when you start getting into, you know, being able to bring in an actual like a gaming session, that's where it comes from, right? Right. A lot of gamers, you know, have multiple feeds where they have four people on the screen playing at once and all that kind of fun stuff. Yes, yeah. That's why I've talked about this in the past. I really want, when we're sitting and discussing what questions we wanna talk about next, I wanna have a video running behind me of Fortnite. And just with me, with the green screen, Fortnite going on, and we can talk about it, then as soon as we show a screen share or something, or we're getting into depth in the topic. If you watch any of these content, sorry, I don't wanna beat up on anybody, these millennial videos, created videos, I think it's hilarious. It'll be just like Fortnite or Apex, or one of these games running rapidly or Minecraft. Yeah. That's a little more old school, but, and then suddenly it'll cut over to whatever video, whatever tool tip that they're talking about. And I've joked about wanting to create a, like a SharePoint or a Teams training video that uses all of those modern practices for. That would be something else. Yeah. One thing coming out, I am very happy about, the Azure CDNs are rolling out for SharePoint and OneDrive video. So this is a big deal because Microsoft, up until this point had been using, they've always had Azure CDNs, content delivery networks to store stuff. And for performance reasons, it's always good to put a CDN in with SharePoint online. But if you were uncomfortable with the idea of a third party, even if they're a licensed third party, hosting assets in a CDN, that was sometimes a deal breaker. And so, you know, Microsoft use, what's the name of the company? Can't think of them right now. Big edge nodes, come on guys. I think you're making all that up, Sean. We don't know what we're just waiting for you to do. No, Jesus, it'll come back to me. But anyway, so Microsoft now is using their Azure CDNs. Hey Hal, for- Good morning. Hosting SharePoint video and OneDrive video, and they're gonna cache it there. And that's first party. So that's an in-house solution that removes a lot of the security concerns a lot of people have about protected content and sensitive content going into CDNs. So we'll see that coming out here. It says, targeted release mid-August, complete worldwide by end of August. So this is rolling out to everybody's tenant. That's very cool. Yeah, I think that the, those are the two of the biggest requests around, around stream, around video production. The third being, and I don't know any progress on this, maybe you guys do around the anonymous access. So essentially being able to, now this goes back to what we've talked about week after week, the difference between Teams and these webinar platforms being that Teams is an enterprise collaboration solution versus these other public solutions. But one of the, you know, I would love the idea of being able to publish videos out publicly with anonymous access rather than re-uploading to YouTube. A lot of people would like that. So what was the, sorry, what was, was it, I just remembered, what was Microsoft's YouTube entry that, that died? Was it, was it soap? No, that doesn't make sense. It was soap box. Soap box. Remember soap box? Yeah. Way back when. But I remember the content provider I'm thinking about, Akamai. Akamai. Akamai. Akamai. That rolls off the time. Yes. What'd you say, Eric? I asked Sean to be honest when, when he said he remembered cause I heard some furious typing after the. Now my memory fills me a lot, but not today. Well, excellent. For those of you that missed it too, by the way, over the, over the weekend, noticed a tweet from Mr. Buckley. The now infamous, I want to make sure I get this right. DJ Krusty Cake? No. Is it? DJ Krusty Cake? Is that right? No. Is that right? It's, it's, it's DJ Crispy Crisp. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. I thought it was something. You were really, really close to it, Mike. You were, you were thinking, I know you were thinking, you were thinking SpongeBob, you know, Krusty Krab, Krusty Cake, Mike. I totally knew that. I think you were thinking Donuts myself. I think, I think it was, it was Krispy Kreme and then Krusty Cake. That's fantastic. I just registered the domain, krustycake.com. Got it. Okay. Yeah. Have a redirect to Buckley Planet. There you go. Yeah, that's it for people that are wondering. So back in, back in college in the late 80s, we decided it was necessary that we all have rap names. And so I was Krispy Crisp. Yeah. Krispy Crisp. How about that? Yeah. The etymology of the name, it's derived from the mid 80s Taco Bell Cinnamon Crispas, which I made the mistake of eating in front of somebody in the dorms in 86, 87. And then was assigned that name by this individual. Nice. Who could never remember my name as Christian and just called me Krispy. And so Krispy Crisp was the logical rap name. So my name better. The evolution of the name. Yeah. Pretty good. Krusty Cake. DJ Krusty Cake. Okay. Let's drop in some serious tunes. All right. So as far as other questions, anything else? Eric or Hal? Any other questions? No questions. There was a lot of conversation after some of the Microsoft announcements and warnings and notifications came out about file sharing in Teams and how it will finally be adopting the familiar interface and accessibility features of OneDrive and everything else where you can share internally, externally, time box documents and all that good stuff. So lots of conversations. No questions really because it's already out there and everyone's used to it or most anyway, are used to it. That was a big deal when Microsoft went and consolidated the experiences. There's that word again, Eric, just for you. Yeah. No, but the experiences across, that was a big question for a long time because the underlying technology is the same between OneDrive for Business and SharePoint List, like why is the experience so different? And so they went in and made that unified experience. They went in and fixed things like the sharing button when you share something that it's a consistent experience across workloads. And so that, to see something like this to say within Teams, hey, oh, hey, we need to have that consistent experience. Whether or not it's something that again, benefits from the fact that all of this stuff rolls under the domain of Mr. Teeper and whether he's influencing the stuff or it's been the plan and the works for a long time. I'm still gonna throw things towards the Teeper direction that he's pushing for that. So he was really big on when he kind of came back to the SharePoint space of improving the look and feel and the unifying the experiences across work. Assistancy, yeah. Yep. Yeah, it makes sense. Cool. I have to change my background to show this properly. Yes. I think there was. Is this the score keeping? Oh dear. I think it's only fair to do that. So you'll actually see my real home here for a moment as I remove the background, which looks nothing like this. No, there are flames everywhere. Yeah, there's exactly. It'd be really funny though as you switched over if suddenly there were children screaming and. That's right. So the experience scorecard you can see is at six. All right. Excellent. Now for clarity for those who may be new to the show, the over-under for today is 59 and a half. Email all of you or your various guesses and such to Christian Buckley. Do you have a female? Are you still taking bets now or is it closed for today's event? I'm not sure. I don't gamble. I just win, Eric. I can either confer nor deny that there's any gambling. It is leaked here in Ontario. So if anybody would like to send their guesses in the over-under 59 and a half and go. I'll tell you that we're already at six. All right. So there are some questions that are posted up on it. So we pulled questions from those that haven't participated in one of the live streams from two locations on a Facebook from the Office 365 community, as well as the Microsoft Teams community. There's a question that was asked earlier this morning by Matik or Metic. Hello community, hope someone can point me in the right direction. A client would like to add their domain to the tenant and migrate on-prem exchange to Microsoft 365. They can't add the domain because the domain in question was added to another tenant somewhere in the past. They proved they own the domain and they can't log in to the old tenant to disconnect the domain. They lost access data. All they have is username, but they don't know the past and they can't reset the password as they didn't register for password reset. Any ideas on how to solve this? We need it out. Survey says. We need it out. Eventually it will lapse. You can accelerate it. So they had a domain that was in the same situation, the main admin, well, personally, the person who set it up actually passed away unexpectedly and took all of the IDs and passwords with them, if you will. So had the same situation, had opened a ticket with support. Support took about a week and a half, week, week and a half. They wanted documentation on the proof of ownership of the domain and then after all the documentation was submitted, they released the domain from the original tenant and then the new tenant was able to adopt it. It takes a while to get it done. Yeah, but I think that's the important point though is that, yeah, you need to call in to support, get that process started. It's one of the reasons why, I don't know what you've all done, but here being independent, going and setting up my tenant, so I set up two alternates. So my daughter and my wife, so that they have that access. So something happens to me that two other people have access. So that's important to go in then. And that was what actually one of the initiatives that Microsoft is doing across all of their platforms now. So I remember at Summit last year, one of the things that came up was around, at the time, it was around ownership of the Office 365 licensee. And you can actually set up another person to be ownership, the claim ownership of your 365 licensee and if you can no longer access it. But they've also extended that now. They've actually, I gotta notice now that even GitHub, GitHub, you can actually, if you have a GitHub account with RIPOs, you can actually specify a predecessor as well. Yeah, so someone who can take over if you don't respond within X amount of days or whatever to request to take over the account. Yeah, a lot of products are putting that in these days. Last pass has the idea of handing down your password store to somebody and you can designate them as a recipient. Should something happen to you, they can get access to your passwords and everything. So I think it's a great thing to have that. I need to go in. I'm a paid user of last pass. I need to go in and take a look at that. Yeah, we actually purchased a plan because you can purchase a family plan in last pass. And what happens is that you can, you specify like beneficiaries, if you will, where my wife gets access. And then after that, my son would get access, but it's after a 14 days, like a 14 day waiting period. So even if you request access, they try and ping you for like 14 days. And if they don't get a response from you, then they say, okay, now you can access his vault. Exactly right, yeah. It's awesome, so. Yeah, you know what actually caused me to go in and look at this is a few years back was investing in some cryptocurrencies. And so it, which resulted in, that was the original reason for purchasing the gun safe prior to there being guns and, but also safety deposit box. But thinking about that and I had a good friend that advised me on that and he's like making sure that, you know, you know, hearing the horror stories of people that lose their, you know, their codes to get access to crypto currencies. And once it's gone, it's like, it's gone. It's, you know, no one can get to that. So exciting times. Yeah, so I went in and just kind of ensured that, you know, all that stuff was accessible. So something happened to me again, if, you know, that children and spouse know how to get to things. So. But one of the things that I do. Yeah, one of the things I've noticed though is that if you look at your last pass, my last pass at least, I've got like, you know, probably eight, nine, 10 years worth of vault. Yeah. Oh, a lot of it's not relevant anymore, but a lot of ideas and stuff. I haven't accessed in like four or five years. And if my wife were to get that, she'd probably look at that and go board or even start. So it's a, it's a challenge. But at the same time, I only bring this up because a friend of mine created a video and they created this video for his wife and his children. So something happened to him. And what he's done is he's archived that video and you can send it up to a service. And what they'll do is that they receive your, they watch more obituaries. And if your obituary shows up, they'll release that video to your loved ones. I thought it was really interesting, this service that they do, but you know, he has to pay to have this service. You know, and it's like nine bucks a year or something like that that he pays. The dead drop. So I have to ask, devil's advocate here, I know of a few people who insisted when they passed away that they did not have an obituary printed for whatever reason, whatever creditors they had chasing them. I don't know, these were all elderly people and that they're now in a better place perhaps. So yeah, exactly that's here. So if there is no obituary, then too bad. I don't know what the situation is there, but I mean, you know, it could be a situation, it could be something where, you know, they get notified by the next to kin. So, you know, they tell someone to notify this company. I don't know. I don't know how. I think you should have, I think you should have more of a Ferris Bueller's day off kind of an experience. You just produce a body and we'll send you all your passwords. It's pretty straightforward. Just produce a body. Ferris plan. Just roll, roll bones in here and all's good. Don't probably do it right now. Everybody's Googling it. Look at him, look at him. You know, maybe there's a conversation for a different time, but has anybody left instructions, funeral instructions for their family? Mine, I've driven into my like, my kids are aware of this where I said that, you know, they're one of my only, I said, do whatever you want. I said, but my one requirement is for the first 15 minutes of when people are in there, I said, they have to play Duran Duran at an uncomfortable level. And so my instruction of my children is that if you could have take on and I have a regular normal conversation, it's not at an uncomfortable level. Turn it up a bit. And 15 minutes of solid of people, especially the old people in the crowd getting angry. Like, can we turn this off, this sacred moment so we can remember him? It was like, no, this is specific. This is the only thing he wanted. Written in, yeah. Uncomfortable level. That's awesome. Who's the audience there? Because, you know, what's uncomfortable to me or to anybody else here is going to be very comfortable to the older people. Most of it anyway. That's right. I just, what I think is hilarious is that of my children, you know, one of them, my son, Nick, is like, he'll be like, oh yeah, and I'll carry it out. I'll make sure that that happens to, like, and I can count on it to do that. You can count on me. That's right. I'll be there turning it off. Hey, here's a question, and this is a good question. I don't know the answer to. So Hale asked a question over on the Teams community. Bought an external mic to use on Teams, but doesn't seem to work on Teams. Works otherwise, though. Teams also recognizes it, but just says didn't work. Has anybody experienced that with hardware? What kind of mic? USB connected? Is it just connecting to an RCA? Yeah, it's USB. So he's got an error message that he's sharing. So it shows that it just says microphone, word form, USB, didn't work. Works or computer? Better drivers, newer drivers. Yeah, that was, that's a good comment, is make sure that you have, don't just have the default driver that, you know, might be listed go and do it immediately. That's kind of a, it's a good rule of thumb with any new hardware. Always, no matter how new it is, you know, just released, look for the latest updates. Truth. Speaking of new hardware, this weekend, I had the unfortunate incident of, I opened Adobe Lightroom and my system just bottomed out, sat at 100% CPU utilization for hours. And I, I'm like, when was the last time I got a new computer? You bought it? Uh-oh. I have a Core i7 5960, I looked it up. That was released Q3 2014. It was the extreme product at that time, but you know, the eight cores just aren't doing it right now. So I'm going to throw more hardware at this thing. You're going to upgrade or you're going to buy the whole box new? Um, probably the, I'm going to do both really. I'm going to save, reuse the drives and video cards and whatnot. Um, but motherboard, cooling, CPU, memory and whatnot will be new. Yeah. That was a helm just to be, just to clarify, you're improving your experience. Okay. Did you already check that off? Yes, correct. As soon as I saw the first, first smile of ellipse, I checked it off. Indeed I am. Hey, I've got a question from a friendly out there. Somebody we know, Mr. Greg Frick from those that don't know, Greg was a long time president of the Puget Sound SharePoint user group or the Seattle area SharePoint user group. Hey, Greg. And so help put on. So he was a compatriot and putting on the SharePoint Saturdays for all those years over there on the Microsoft campus. He asked a question a few hours ago, file share to SharePoint migration ideas or input SOT. Since the engagement and collective knowledge in this group is so high, I'd love to blah, blah, blah, he just goes on. It's, that's an experience in itself. So I've been a SharePointer since 2007, so I'm knowledgeable, but I'm continually reminded that I don't know everything. I'm thinking about the experience of users that have gotten used to clicking through folder hierarchies, finding their files in a modern site. I'm thinking of things like the use of multiple libraries, web parts on a homepage, use of content types, and or just site columns, default column values in site columns to help classify content, setting the managed properties to searchable. Any questions or any guidance on moving from that experience, especially into a Teams world. This is posted in the Microsoft Teams community. So it's a question about moving that over to Teams and best practices for taking that complexity and merging that over. I have a whole deck that speaks to this. I can't bring it out of my little brain here off the top of my head, but if he reaches out to me, I'm happy to share it. Yeah, so that's, it just made me think about, so we just gotten, Eric, we just discussed this on the call last week, so Sue Hanley is gonna be doing an information architecture session. It's not until September, October. I'm gonna go look at the dates, but that's a, she's a great resource. She's constantly writing about, talking about information architecture and specifically addressing issues of moving from that SharePoint world over into the Teams world. But just some highlights from that deck, from that presentation, Eric, the thoughts, anything that you could share before doing a deep dive with Greg into your PowerPoint presentation, which makes for great light streaming. Use the tool. It's a crappy experience here and now, Eric, for you to refer to a slide presentation somewhere else. Well, since I didn't have the question beforehand, so I asked you my best. None of us did, Eric. Well, first of all, I wanna clarify something. If the experience word comes in from a question, I think that's just cute. And I heard it twice there from Greg. Yeah, no, I agree, I agree. Okay, I think that's only fair. And I think at some point, there's a three-pointer, a three-point shot somewhere that's back even further behind the line from the outside. I think that's valid as well, so. More of an experienced Hail Mary. Right, and then if there's a three-point or plus a foul, you know. And one somewhere. Yeah, and one. So in short, I would say use a tool, obviously. It's not something you wanna start mucking around with. But before you even get to that point, from a strategic perspective, you've gotta understand source and use of the information. You know, so much of our worlds now are focused on single-source content, one document that lives in one place, but it's shared multiple places where when updates occur, they're done once and pushed to the various sources, or sorry, various uses and resources that are used in that information. You've gotta get a good handle on what information you have out there and where you're putting it, where it's going before you actually do anything. Yeah, and I think the key there as part of that is that there's not a one-to-one. It does take a rethinking of that information. Could it be that you just teamify that existing SharePoint or legacy SharePoint site? That's an option. Is it that you make it a legacy environment that you reference via, you know, the lists and libraries via tabs within a new team, migrate some content and the rest of it, you just, you know, archive and what we can, we've talked about the various definitions of archival, what that means. So in the loosest sense of archiving, meaning that, you know, it's accessible to everyone, but it's not, no one's accessing that site through navigation over on your portal. It's not a teamified site. It may only be accessible through those tabs and through the file experience in Teams now with this new site, but the content is still there, so it's all still searchable. So how you set that up and map that, and it's also, there's not one way of doing that that's going to match every one of those legacy SharePoint sites and that complexity. So it should be driven largely by the owners of those sites and of that content, how you're going to need to access that, but... As an organization, you've got to identify what the date is in which you're bringing content over and everything else has to go somewhere else or nowhere, just leave it where it is. You know, there are a lot of people, a lot of clients are using the seven-year rule as that sort of point where they'll bring forward anything that's old, but when you actually do an accounting and an audit of your information to the site level and you realize that two thirds of your sites aren't being touched or haven't been touched in so many years, you've got to rethink the purpose of all that content. You know, we sort of get, we get too comfortable with, okay, everything is there and I can access anything even if it's from seven years ago and that's not an efficient way to do business going forward. You know, anything, in my world, I'd probably say anything 12 months or older I haven't looked at. So I could call or archive all of my personal content and most organizations operate on a, let's say 18 month cycle, right? If you need to do anything in HR for your 360 reviews and such, you go back a year, you look at what's there, you change dates and save ads and move it forward, you don't go back two, three, four, five years. You need from an employment perspective to have the records, but you can archive them. So this is where you've got to identify what really makes sense, it really needs to be there moving forward and where you don't. And if you don't, don't just think that because you have a script or a product or a routine to bring it in, that you need to bring it forward. As many labels as you can get on it to, classification, metadata, because the experience and share point is gonna leverage that metadata navigation if you enable it and you can search, filter, whatever, faceted navigation and filtering. So as much as you can tag items with the terms, it's gonna aid your journey. Yeah. And Eric, I just commented over in Greg's post there, I know you're not on the book of faces. So I let him know that you'd reach out to him with a link there. And do you have that published out somewhere that you can share the link to that presentation? Or is it one that's not yet publicly consumable? I would have to go through a sanitization process before I made it. Okay. You just had to say yes or no, that's all, make it complex, wow. Proprietary content. I like to give full answers. It's not just about throwing it out somewhere. It needs to be mocked. Needs an haircut. Let's see, any other new questions? So Nitin has a question here. Any suggestions how we can auto map network drives or printers for Azure AD joined users? So when users log into their device, it should auto map both the network drives and printers. Currently, we have to map it manually. If they're active directory, if they're in Azure active directory, they should not because the GPO- Login scripts. What's that? Login scripts, that's the old login script thing. It is, it is. But in Azure active directory, it's policies, right? So it's kind of a horse and beast. But if they have the policy set up properly, if these are hybrid users that use AAD, then they should be able to map to on-premises devices just like they would if they logged in locally. Yeah, Andy also shares a link, a blog post on automating network drive mapping configuration with Intune. Yeah, you can do that with Intune. That's mainly for MDM or associated devices. iPads, Android devices, stuff like that. But you can extend that to the Windows 10 desktop as well now. I mean, Intune is becoming the new administration platform for Windows 10 devices. Yeah, I think we're at the point now too, where file services and DFS is getting much smarter. DFS distributed file services. DFS distributed file services in Windows. That's in DFS. I mean, they're kind of the same. I mean, what are you saying exactly? They're getting smarter. Well, it's very easy to set those up and map them with DFS and roll that out to folks via policy and whatnot. Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And it's easier with Azure files. If you're going to move everything up into Azure files instead of having it local or on-premises with DFS or RDFS, Azure files just hooks right into Azure AD. Yeah. Now it does. I should say you can authenticate the Azure files with Azure AD. That just came out like three weeks ago. I didn't know that. Yeah. That's cool. There's another question that was just asked. Hi, guys. My outlook 2016 is taking too much time to load and sometimes halts and not responding state. Does I have a high spec machine around 80 gigs of free space and outlook, but still taking time to open and load messages? Create a new profile. Delete your profile. Yeah. Create a new profile. Wow. Your profile is probably correct. Yeah. Oftentimes it's web service. Has that happened a couple of times? Yeah. It could be web services depending on what add-ons and stuff they have or what associated stuff they have going on in Outlook. Create a new profile. Wipe that out. Just be able to start over from scratch, basically. Save your PST if you can. But I mean, then you're OST. Yeah. Don't pull the boulder over the Internet again. Yeah. OSTs, if they're not... If you lose the outlook profile that created in OST, the OST is toast. So OSTs don't do any good if you build anyway. Sure. Yeah. The only place you have to be careful of is if you happen to have an IMAP account. And some of the things like context or calendar or the like wind up being local. They'll have a little disclaimer where it says this computer only. If that's the case, then what you need to do is to move those particular pieces into a PST file from the OST file. And that way, if you have to do a rebuild or something like that, you don't lose all that stuff. Right. And I'll tell you that, Hal, the interesting question on that is I had a situation where they have an OST repair tool. I don't know if the people know this, but you can go out of Microsoft and get an outlook profile repair tool, which basically goes out and repairs your OST. They're third party ones as well. Right. So I've actually had people that will create a new profile just to get started, just to get outlook back up, right? And make sure there's nothing wrong or if it's an add on, determine if it's the profile or an add on that's causing the problem or what it is. But Hal, you bring up a good point because I've had people that say, well, they delete their original profile and they create a new one. And I just say create a new one. The reason is because if you can get back into that old profile, a lot of folks forget their contacts and anything else that they've had associated with that old profile. So if they delete it ahead of time and then create a new one, they lose all that. They don't have the capability of getting at it at all. Even though you still might have the file, you can't get to it because the profile's been deleted. Right? With an OST file, yeah, that's correct. But not for the PST file. It's a standalone file, open an export outlook data file. And that's how you get back into it. PST files, while they're fragile, they're nice. Yeah. I agree. I still remember going back to the days when they would say having two, what was it? Two gig PST files, trying to traverse them and stuff like that. Trying to, when people would log in and pull it out of their home drives. Oh boy. That's the network. Yeah, that crazy stuff like that. Yeah. Back when networks weren't quite as quick as they are now. So I've got a, this is less of a question and more of a comment and there's a hearty discussion happening. 37 comments on this, but I'd love to get your points. This kind of goes back to what we were talking about earlier with information architecture. But Jeremy states that it's really hard to sell teams during a massive on-prem to Office 365 document migration when it can't handle content types. And so I don't know if... He's not lying. Yeah. And, you know, what, so organizations that have spent a lot of time and effort, money around building out the content types and building out that kind of intricate document management solution on SharePoint and moving to a team centric. So what do you tell customers? Eric, is that in your deck? Is that part of the experience that you share with clients? Don't abuse. Don't abuse the deck. The sacred deck. Sorry. I'm sorry. Well, just for that, it's not. Unfortunately, the deck has already been sanitized and that did not make it into the final cut. Unfortunately. Yeah. But we'll have to see. Yeah, so I mean, so what's the... And I know, I don't mean to get into such a... No, I do mean to get into a deep topic here, but just skim the top layer of that. So I mean, how do you begin that conversation with the client to explain the differences and their previous investment? Well, first of all, I hate to do this. Not that much really. I love doing this, but it depends on the client. It depends on goals. It depends on experience. And it depends on a million things, not in the least of which is budget, but it really depends on the journey. Journey really being a... Yeah, it's the same. They're a great band. They are. I was just thinking of the... Don't stop believing. The radio this morning, I just realized that one of the band members, it was his dad who arranged all the strings and all their early hits. So guy that early, the young guys that were in their early twenties and he's like, dad, can you help me out with this and all the strings that were laid out by one of their dads. So that was kind of cool. No, so I think you're exactly right about the It Depends solution. I think one of the... There's a couple of people that made the comment without reading through all the detail. Tobias Koprowski, good friend, based out of the UK now, who had a few different answers here. Andrew Jolly down out of Australia kind of saying the same thing, saying, look, it's an incomplete story for those that are looking for a one-to-one match from what you've built in SharePoint over to Teams. But it's also, it's a different experience. You can't go in there thinking that it's a apples-to-apples migration across, that they're used in a different way. The work that you... I would say that the work that you've done, it's all still valid for your portal. How you access that and add to that and continue leveraging what you've built on the... I mean, there's parody issues from moving from on-prem to online with a lot of that capability. That's really the core of the question. It has nothing to do with Teams. Moving to SharePoint online is different. There's those questions. You could have a hybrid environment in place and access that content and use it like a service for those sites. There's things that you can do to leverage what you've already built, I guess, is my point. But then there's a different way of thinking about how people are collaborating, how you're storing, capturing the content, storing it, that you need to rethink, redesign those experiences where you might have to develop additional workflows. You might have to get a bit artistic on how you're accessing those legacy systems. Yeah, it's... there's not a third-party tool that'll just magically go in and move those things across and it'll work the same way. Third-party tools are good for moving content. They're not good for implementing or assisting in long-term journey and strategy and change and adoption. Those are two, if not three, entirely different conversations and they have to be addressed accordingly. True that. Ding. Yep. Hey, teacher time. Oh, yeah, yeah. I see Mike's got SpaceX. Very nice. Love the species. Okay. Very nice. I went old school. You didn't see it. It was one of my favorites. Yeah, I remember that. The old BA Insights t-shirt. Very good. All right. What is that, circa 2007? No, it's a little bit newer than that. I think it's 2010, 2011. Yeah, that sounds about right. Yeah. I'm just going from the SharePoint logo. Yeah. So that was... 2010. Yeah, it's 2010. That's 2010? Yeah. So it could have been fall of 2009. I'm trying to remember if they had these at SharePoint Conference in 2009. I think it was 2010. I think it was 2010. So it was... It's actually, the t-shirt is held up because I removed it from circulation for years and had it in the... I thought it was going to be in another one of the share quilts. And for those... Everybody here knows what that is. Actually, Hal and Mike, I don't know if you know what... We've not talked about it in a while, the share quilt. So I actually had... We go to conferences. We get these t-shirts. For some reason, we say yes, and vendors throw different stuff at us. Occasionally we see... Occasionally we see... Sometimes it's quite literally thrown at us. But we have these collections, and so I would... A lot of my favorites hang on to them and I'm slow to give them up. But I went and cut them up and helped my mother-in-law sewed them into a quilt, double-sided. That's now hanging as a piece of art in building 34 at Microsoft. So you can actually go and there's a four-square check-in, so you can actually go and check in at the quilt. I think Mark Cashman is still the mayor of that location. Although Tasha and a few others have tried to steal it away from him, but he's quick to go back there and grab it back. Protect his territory. So every time I visit campus, I make sure that I venture over to the quilt to check in. But I have an army duffel bag that is filled with other shirts, and this was in their hiding, and I went through it to try and purge. I think I went through... I mean, it's filled. It's stuff filled. So how many teachers does it take to fill an army duffel bag? Right up here. Right, and I think what I went through to purge, I thought, I'm going to go to the thrift store. I'm going to donate a bunch of stuff, and only two found their way out. That's awesome. I need to let go of some of that stuff. Leave it there long enough, and then I go in. I'll go in another two, three years from now and be like, why the heck did I hold on to all... I have no idea. At least two. Now the baseline is two for the purge. Exactly. But most of them, I go back in there and I'm like, these are not quote-worthy. Hashtag quote-worthy. Yeah. I've got a closet full of SharePoint Saturday speaker polos. I actually, when I went back to work at Cardinal for my second tour of duty, I wore a speaker shirt, and one of the guys who worked there asked me, he's like, how many of those do you have? Quite a few. So he challenged me to wear a different one every day for a week. I wore a different one every day for a month. Yeah. Piece of cake. Challenge accepted. Exactly. That's not even close to difficult. Not at all. Well, this is like now, I think it was, I really liked the Ignite t-shirt, the cassette tape and the heart around it, that we modeled our local event, our SharePoint Saturday, after that with a similar design. But I thought that was the only t-shirt, that and Year of Yammer. So I brought home two t-shirts from that major event. And I just kept saying, no, no, no, don't want to carry crap home, don't want to add to the duffel bag. Right. I think given all the marketers that are tuning in to this, a very good idea, which is, they should be handing you a duffel bag. That's it. There you go. Yeah. No, I think the lesson to be learned from marketers, like people love the t-shirts, but design a t-shirt that people will want to wear. Yeah. How frustrating it is, and we've all done this, worked for companies that have got to market it. And it says, ugly. And they want to get the low-end cheaper shirts and stuff, and people love the combed cotton now, the super soft, thinner shirts. But create a logo, design something that's fun or funny, that's branded, but that people will then want to go and wear. Exactly. The most famous shirt that I designed years back, and I've resurfaced it a couple of times, is the SharePoint. So a picture of Share, or was the other one everybody, somebody asked one time, what is it? The disco singer? Anyway. So somebody walked up one time, and said, what do you have like a, what is it, Donna Summer? That's what it was like. What do you have Donna Summer on your t-shirt? And I'm like, yeah, it's Donna Summer. We're not from our year. But anyway, memorable, but people would wear that, and I wore it for a while. I would actually hand them out and say, be careful what neighborhoods you wear this in, you might get beat up, wearing a share t-shirt. I've got mine. It's an awesome shirt. People loved that shirt, and it got replicated out there in the population, and people, other companies grabbed it. That wasn't okay, but since I actually paid an artist to do an original image that was used, but created a design that people want to wear, and people will wear that shirt. It's fantastic. I joke that I did a just share t-shirt that had, we did it for a SharePoint Saturday, and a year later, we did that in the Bay Area, in San Francisco Bay Area. A year later, I went through it looking at the user group in downtown San Francisco, and man, I kid you not, I see this fire brick red shirt, and I'm just like, and I see the sponsors on the back. I'm like, no way. Somebody's just walking down the street wearing the t-shirt that we did a year earlier. That's awesome. So it was just cool to see that out in the wild. Yeah. That's very cool. I turned in a bunch of clothes to Goodwill, and then to have one of the tech t-shirts that I turned in, and then a year later, sometime later, actually see someone like at the grocery store in Walmart or something, wearing that shirt. I used to own that shirt. Because it's so obscure. I mean, it's a tech shirt that nobody else would have unless they were actually at the conference at the time. They walked up and talked to that vendor and got that vendor to give the shirt. I just noticed, oh, wow, somebody else asking that exact same question a few days ago about migrating old SharePoint on-prem farm to Office 365 tenant and what to move, what are the best practices when moving content to teams. So that's just interesting to see. That's 14 days ago, two weeks ago, somebody asked the same question. It's a concern. A lot of people want guidance when Mr. Rizdis declassifies his deck. Perhaps someone will share. Now you got the beaker eyes going. Yep. Any other questions? Anything else? Hal, you run into anything in the last few days? Well, if I'm still here. Can you hear me? Yeah, we can. Okay, we're good. There was last week's outlook meltdown. Microsoft released an update and it hit monthly and I think semi-annual. Fast, insider fast wasn't affected if you could run this. Basically, you'd launch out and look and it just would be there for a minute or two and then it would go away. It wouldn't say anything. It just simply would go away, quit. That was a service problem that they had on there and all the forums went up like crazy and the immediate fix was to bump to the prior to revert to the version that just was updated and I don't know, within about three hours and after the initial start of the problem they managed to release a service fix for it and so people basically just restart out like a couple of times to pick the change up and then everything was happy again but sure were a lot of people without outlook for a little while. I think that was Monday morning I think. A lot of angry people. I didn't understand it Hal. We were on the same call, the renewal call. Remember that? One of the MVPs actually is a new MVP came on and just started, hey, the emergency, emergency, code read, oh, it doesn't work, blah, blah, blah. He's kind of freaking out about it and Hal was just like, hey, just restarted a couple of times. It's cool. Don't worry about it. It's just like, I'm sitting here going, hey, it's email people. Come on. I mean, it's not the first time email has gone, you know, has died. I mean, it's... I've actually heard in some circles that that was a test from Microsoft directly and specifically focused to see how many outlook users there were. Basically, outlook test to teams test because the people who weren't freaking out were the ones who were using teams to communicate versus those who were using Outlook and the whole inner outer loop conversation. They were actually testing Bill Gates's facial recognition software. Being over 5G, you know, that is going to corrupt the world. That's what it was, Riz. All I know is that I responded to that Gates memo and I got my thousand dollars. So I don't know what, you know, it works, people. You're one of the smart ones. Yeah. Well, gentlemen, that is it for this segment. We will be back for our evening, our Asia Pacific session at 6 p.m. Pacific and whatever that equates to in Australia, New Zealand, Time Zone, I don't know what we sometimes occasionally have some folks that are on from them, but we'll be back on for the second half in a few hours. And address some other questions and I'll go through and scour the interwebs that Eric has a preview into questions that will be answered with him not here. Unless you're going to show up, Eric. Speaking of not here, do you want to talk about next week's plan? I'll get back to you guys. So I may be here for the morning session, so I got to look at our activities when we head up to the lake, so I might be here for the morning. All right. Anyway, thanks everybody. And we'll be back in hours. Talk to you later. Bye. And for those that are wondering, as we do every week, this is part two of episode 18, and I'm recording in teams and I will upload the two teams recording, so you'll have to see more of my face and kind of imbalance this on par with the others. Yeah, I know. You're going to make a joke. Yours is the cute one. Sorry. Let's see. They used to scare kids into going to bed at night. You know, this thing is going to come out from underneath better the closeters. So, yeah. Well, let's see. Anything happening with the course of the day? Do you want to bring up and talk about health? No, nothing much so far. I was actually, I was actually kind of playing this afternoon. There is a well, being an old TV buff. Somebody, I don't know, a week or so ago posted out on Facebook, something about the Nelson Riddles Route 66. Yeah, that's neat. I really used to like that, which got me to thinking and looking to see if there were any Route 66 episodes available out there on the internet that I could, that was 12 at the time, you know, 12, 13, 14 in that area. Anyway, I'm not only found that, but I found that there was an episode that was filmed here. Well, of course, living here all month, basically all my life, I had to see what this, if there was anything recognizable. It was kind of a fun trip down memory lane. I watched the episode all the way through and then I said about trying to figure out where all the scenes were shot. And basically, I've come up with every location that they visited. Really? They didn't just film at all in Southern or Central California, but a lot of old shows that were supposed to be somewhere in the Midwest and it was actually out in the, you know, California somewhere. No, this one was filmed on location in Tucson. So that's the reason I had to go looking around to see if there was anything that was recognizable. As it turns out, there was actually quite a bit of it that was recognizable. It took some doing. A good many of the buildings aren't there anymore. Fortunately, the mountains don't change much. So you kind of get an idea, particularly where they were. In one section of the episode, they're kind of lost out in the desert. And by looking at the mountains for around where they were standing because they made reference to some of them, I knew right where they were, which is kind of cool. Google Maps comes in really handy. As I say, you can't fake that. The mountains that is local there. Well, for anybody that's watching on the live stream, we've got a handful of people that are on. It's in a couple of locations, but feel free to post your questions and we'll try to address them. I thought Sean was going to be here and Mike, but maybe they'll drop in here. Otherwise, Hal and I will do our best. So a couple of questions. I've got a couple outlook questions that we didn't get to this morning. One of them, Frio, asked the question, how do I install two outlooks in one PC? And there's no other detail around that. And so I'm not sure if they're trying to install multiple clients. I'm assuming it's multiple accounts, which I have multiple email accounts that are just add different accounts. I have it all in one outlook client, if that's what you're trying to do. It's pretty straightforward. It's kind of the problem with that there. Anymore, you kind of have to be specific. Okay, two outlooks on my PC. Well, is that two outlook desktop clients? Is that you want to do outlook.com with something else or Microsoft 365 on the web? In the short answer to the question, I want to put two outlooks on. I mean, I have to answer that for the question. Why on earth would you want to? Yeah. It depends on what they're really asking to do. Yeah, I mean, you can add a good many accounts to a micro to an outlook desktop profile. You have the option of creating multiple profiles for multiple things like, for example, if you want something that is your business completely separated from your home account, you put the business account in one profile. You put the home account in the other. That means you have to log out outlook and log back in in order to see and did one account from the other. Nothing ever gets interchanged that way. There's no accidental. I moved an email from someplace I shouldn't have the someplace else I should have or any of that stuff. That's an important distinction too, because I was going to say that you can have, like I have three separate emails in my one and plus Gmail. And do I still have a hotmail that's, I think I still have the hotmail, but it's not in the outlook. So I have four email addresses in one outlook client. Three of them are full Office 365 licenses, outlook licenses. And so I have it set up with each of them has distinctive. If I respond to an email, it knows to automatically send with the corresponding, you know, a name, but you can. I can go in there and manually switch between them. If I receive an email through one and they sent it to my Gmail and I'm responding, I can respond back with my Office 365, my company account. So, but to your point, I think it's an important distinction. If you're trying to keep them separated, then separate profiles make sense. Depends on how you want to toggle through those as well. Do you want to, I mean, you can always create different windows profiles and log in and out, keep them completely separated. Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah. But otherwise, I mean, the other way of doing that is what's wrong with having one on the desktop and access the other one through browser. Which everybody does all the time. And then toggle between them. So, yeah, there's a few different ways. And there, of course, are some advantages to doing it online, particularly if you're talking people on the outside world. They don't happen to have room on your phone or tablet or whatever to granted outlook. And the Microsoft 365 package is available in a number of different platforms, including both iOS and Android. If you don't have the room to have them and the associated data file requirements and so forth, if you've got a small phone like I do, you can, there you use the web versions and save yourself all that trouble. It's also a way of keeping, bring your own device machines that may or may not meet anyone's security compliance requirements out of any kind of office network. You just use the web clients instead. And you can do that with Office and with pretty much any part of Office, that being both Outlook and Excel and Power Point and all of those word included. You have the access to the online OneDrive for all of your files to origin, of course, SharePoint, Teams, yada, so forth, so on. So there's some distinctive advantages over doing that. Yep. You should be doing it on the web versus having it all on the desktop. Yep. Let's see, the other Outlook, is there another one? I thought there might have had a third one in there. No, okay. So the other question Outlook related, Crystal's asking my company, I'm going to move this over so I'm not looking so far over there to the left. My company has blocked add-ins for Outlook in Office 365. Is there any way to easily save files from Outlook to Teams without add-ins? So the Share to Teams or Share with Teams is still not arrived. So that feature is coming, but that is not specifically a, like a files and attachment method. It's for the whole email and I believe with any attachments that are there. Again, we haven't seen it, so can't really talk about what is part of the GA, the generally available feature set. But that is forthcoming. But as far as files, it's not a feature that I've gone and looked for a way to auto download and move files from Outlook over to anything. I wasn't aware of a third-party tool that did that. You have to know you with anything, pal? No, not right off hand. Easy attachments. You're trying to move conversations, calendar items. That's, you know, for what it's worth, currently, you know, Outlook is using pretty much Teams for its messaging and so forth thing. I don't happen to have that handy right this moment. I don't know whether it's a plug-in or not. I'm just looking. There's a couple people asking questions out on tech community. Again, there might be a third-party tool that does that today. You know, and one of them is to forward the email to a channel. So there's no third-party application that's required for that. If the admin for that team has allowed individuals to email a team, then that's one way you can get that content. Again, it's going to take the whole email and attachments and send that over. And there's a, what is it, the, oh. Okay, so, yeah, so save Outlook attachment to Microsoft Teams. Again, I've never done this, but there's a, on the, for the file, for the download, no, that is not. It's a, I'm going to have to hang on. I'm going to try this. It's just, I've not seen this and not familiar with this. Let me see, I've got an example right there. No, I mean, even in this, what I'm seeing is that you still have to save it. Save the file down. You're not saved any steps, then upload it from right there, which is not really, save all attachments. Yeah, so it's, yeah, you're still having to, and Sean, we're looking to see, the question was whether you can, if there's an easy way to move files, attachments in Outlook straight to Teams. And there's somebody, a couple of people responding out in the Microsoft tech community that like, yeah, just used to click on the drop-down arrow on the right side of the attached file, go to upload and find your team, but you still have to download the file and then upload it into Teams. So there's not a straight from Outlook and I guess the longer term answer we think will be the share for the Outlook feature that's not yet available, the shared of Teams. But whether you'll be able to share just the attachment or the entire email with the attachment is yet to be seen. So the interim is download it locally, upload it into Teams, two-step process, no third-party tool necessary, or email to the team, to the channel if you want the entire email message to be part of that with this attachment. So there's two ways. I'm not aware of any third-party tools. I'm not either, but once it can start working with those cloud resident links so that you don't have to do anything with it locally, that'll be nice. That intermediate step is kind of a pain in the butt. Agreed. Hey, here's something. So this is, I don't know if you saw it, Sean. So the fact that Mark Anderson over at Simpraxis Consulting, good friend of Oliver's, how long enough you know Mark, but I'm sure you guys would be best of friends, besties, instantly. Yeah, he's the grumpy old man, get off my lawn. Yeah, he is that. But he is, so his team has started writing about the kind of resurgence of the SharePoint maturity model. That Sadie Van Buren did like six years ago, seven years ago. And so they've started writing about that, kind of modernizing that. And there is, if you're not familiar with that, I'll provide a link as well. You don't even know what's still out there. Hang on. The SPMM, so it was back in the, yeah, SharePoint 2010 days. And so that's out. So there's actually something out on, yeah, so here is a link on the O'Reilly site that Sadie wrote where she outlines it and is there, yep, and there's the whole table down the bottom, how to apply it. And this is the a great link for that. Let me share that in the Book of Faces. Yeah. And I'll share it here as well. But definitely go take a look at that. Well, the point was, so Mark and some practice team are writing a bunch of content for Microsoft. And so they've added that content as well. I'm looking to see. Yeah, so up there it is. Yeah, so June 12th. So here's the updated version of this. We'll add this link in here. This is really great stuff. So this is a and I'll kind of read the intro here. We often hear from people in the community that they know they aren't using Microsoft 365 capabilities as fully as, or as efficiently as they would like. Sometimes this can be an existential dread rather than a specific set of clear ideas about what is missing or what to do to work smarter. Taking a holistic view of the technology and gaining an understanding of current state versus desired state can help organizations and then it outlines the ways outlines the model points to Sadie's work and it's just kind of a refresh of that. So that's an overview. The first link that I shared is the detail Let me hit respond on that. But that's good stuff. Now a few years back was that five years ago? Six years ago? Melinda Morales and I created the SharePoint governance maturity model and so that's something we've talked about updating that for the broader Microsoft 365 so taking in teams and one drive in some of the other other aspects of that and so somebody else has gone and created a version based on just for Microsoft teams so there's some interesting resources out there whether you're internally looking for some help, some guidance being able to go in and kind of from the table to gauge here's where we are on process here's where we are in action around a number of different areas and say okay, hey what does it look like if we improve what is the next step where we know we've improved because that's a big, it's a difficult aspect of measurement. You create a baseline going to find here's where we are today but it's not clear of what that next step is and then of course if you're looking for guidance to be able to go to internal, external consulting team a project management team to say help develop a plan for us to get to that next phase, you have an idea of what the outcomes are for each of those areas and are more easily able to put a plan together, a strategy for building that so definitely worth checking out. Good stuff. Let's see so again if you're watching on the live stream feel free to ask any questions Sean, anything come up today you wanted to talk about? Nah, I was going to apologize because I fell asleep. You should never apologize for taking a nap and getting rest that's... Yeah well, I thought I'd lay down for a brief period next thing I know I'm looking up at the clock it's quarter after nine I'm like I think I'm supposed to be somewhere right now. It's at middle age it's setting in on you man Middle age, you're kind Well, you need to be bright and chipper for the 1.30 am gaming session so that's what I'm prepared for Oh boy Got a couple other questions that I that I pulled down there we've not already addressed from the two Facebook communities that we're pulling questions from They may not be long discussion points though Oh real quick by the way you guys saw my note that I will not be able to join next week so you guys got it Riz claims he's going to participate and hit the record button on those Yeah I think the over under 50-50 on that Yeah, yeah But I will share some questions I'll collect a few and share them before I head out the door and I thought I might be able to join the APAC session the evening session next week I might look very different I might be burnt to a crisp I'll be out in the sun the entire day I certainly hope not Oh I do You know how well that stuff stays on when you're on CQ Oh man Alright, well here's a question So Jaraj asks one drive for business regional settings defaults is it possible to change those regional defaults and he says our tenant defaults to English and time zone for newly created user accounts despite this is possible to change on the user level but it's a bit cumbersome the administrator change is also possible but very cumbersome as well I don't know what are they looking for I want one button that just does it that knows what I want to do I hit the button and it changes it says I'd like to change the default to something else but so far no luck does anyone know which tenant-wide setting would achieve this So Do not So the regional settings like that is I mean it's at the tenant level I mean obviously I'm going to the admin portal right now We'll find out in real time people Somebody knows and they want to just tell us they want to inform us then feel free So he's asking for one drive and what else Yeah just the one drive for business regional settings defaults I started to look for the answer to this earlier I was in doing some other admin changes testing out an ISV solution and opened up the admin console and as usually happens it's still open A call came in I went back to doing the actual work and then never got back to still sitting there yeah So I'm looking through the one drive settings now and I'm not seeing anything Yeah so my thinking is I'm sure that's a configuration setting but that's going to probably be one of those that is easiest gotten to from some power shell manipulation of the office 365 object model and settings but I do not have any script handy to deal with that it's not one that I've been asked to really make changes to I'm just one of those dumb Americans who's used to everything being 1033 Unicode page you know en-us So I did a quick google search and typed in changing one drive for business regional settings and the organic the top snippet says to change your personal language region settings so on a user by user basis rather than cross the board for a tenant yeah it makes sense that it's set for each user because every user is going to of course have their own specific setting for that but I don't even know if that's I've got to believe it's managed on a tenant wide basis but that's one I'd have to look into I'll probably let me see if I can look into that and come back with it yeah so I mean I see other comments here that in one drive for business default time see default time zone cannot be changed once a tenant is created yeah then it basically says as a work around SharePoint online admin can help listing users update their regional settings including dot time zone using a CSOM script yeah that makes sense yeah let me grab let me share this so this is probably the closest thing I would say the only I hate just not fully answering something and pushing somebody to support but this is one of those things that that's when you're paying for support you know getting their help on that process but this is otherwise this is a community response in the Microsoft community answers.microsoft.com and somebody has provided if you look at the first response the it's got your two top responses there but the one from September 12th from Skypay plus one has the links to the Office 365 change the locale of all one drive for business sites using PowerShell as well as the new SharePoint CSOM version released for Office 365 has those two links and that's going to be probably what you need yeah well the newness of this to put it in perspective the change locale for business sites using PowerShell is from April 2015 so yeah the born on date we're well past so yeah this script goes in I'm going through the user profile service and by login name gets the user and on the one drive for business backing website it's setting the regional settings locale ID and making a change at that level so this will change it in the case of the one drive for business site but more specifically I'm sure these settings are available on other objects in the Office 365 space Microsoft 365 space and I don't know that this sort of information I'll have to check in with Yena and the graph team to see if they've offered a more holistic kind of encompassing way to get at this information through graph because this is the kind of thing that graph would wrap up so I'll take that as a to-do yeah the and part of the problem that obvious complexity around this is even if you have end users that are going and doing this you know one by one there's still the syncing of the other services for that change which requires PowerShell it's not just a UI driven end user driven I'll go and fix it myself yeah this is just again working with user profile service people manager finding the user object and making the change at that level so it's very specific and targeted to a particular user so it's not a obviously default change for anything just once your user object exists it changes it for you but I suspect that you know when you set up a SharePoint web or SharePoint site online you have the option of specifying specific to the web app back you know in the on-prem days back in the old days the web application had a set of settings assigned to it for user locale information and time zones and that was set at the web app setting level and off of that the site collections that were built within that were their baseline settings from specific to times and time zones and locales imagine some version of that still since that was the way the on-prem model did it I'm sure it exists like that out in Office 365 because the entire object model didn't change it was just a back when in the 2010 days when tenant-based extensions were added the ability to group things at the tenant level rather than at the farm level um that's when those came into play you got all that out? oh yeah it'll be on the test so yeah the test that's what we don't need let's see no other questions posted Monday evenings are usually quieter oh hey by the way I need to put you in touch with Greg so he is interested in connecting I don't know if you saw that that's over in the Microsoft Teams community so we talked about it this morning do you know Greg? you've been out to one of the events out in Seattle you'll know him as soon as you talk to him but I mean he was the president of the user group for like 10 years okay yeah I we've not met but anyway because you can reach him through Facebook messaging that way but otherwise I'll connect you via email okay sounds good always looking to meet another person in the space yeah and and alright while we're waiting to see we still have a handful of people that are watching feel free to ask a question just type it out somewhere in the book of faces and we'll get it let's see I had another question lined up here oh you know I'll finish a thought about the Microsoft 365 maturity model what I brought that up is that there's actually so Peter Carson and the EUM team have got a webinar on the topic so they're expanding that to so they kind of went down that path and it was actually Mark that reached out to Peter so Peter Carson's president of InVision IT, the consulting company or product company but this webinar that's happening on the 29th of this month I guess I could grab a link to that but where he was walking through it and then Mark saw that and reached out and like hey did you see that we've started kind of resurfacing that old content but yeah really good stuff so if you want to have an idea get an idea I think it's going to be a great it's more conversational than presentation it's going to be a great webinar and Peter's doing a series around this so it's happening on the 29th we're going to kind of walk through an overview of the maturity model talk about the Microsoft learning pathways talk about building a strategy for better Microsoft 365 utilization it's a good topic for anybody using teams and SharePoint OneDrive and any other workload trying to figure out how to get them all working better together and to optimize across the entire platform it's a worthwhile topic sounds like good stuff yeah timely that it has been resurfaced now I think a lot of people benefit from it yeah a lot of great I brought up this morning the fact that we've got so EOM is hosting Sue Hanley to talk about information architecture and how all of that work that we've done in SharePoint over the last decade how that translates into Microsoft Teams and carry what carries over what doesn't what's different you know what you need to think about I mean just another these are all great topics that were you know a big deal in the SharePoint world and are still a big deal in the SharePoint world and now the Teams world and a lot of things the same a lot of things there are nuances of course so good stuff same model different lips lipstick yeah but again that's another one where actually I prefer the model where it's going to be Peter and it should be me if I'm not there then I think Riz will be there and Sue Hanley talking about information architecture should be a great discussion as long as Riz isn't left to himself that's true because we don't want to do that to anyone well there are laws yeah yeah there are protections there are protections there are protections in place to leave people so that we're not left alone with Riz yeah I trust Sue I don't trust Riz I don't trust Riz uh we say that with love people of course Eric Riz well he's not on Facebook anyway so he's one of those weirdos we could trash talk him yeah refuses his inner urges there wacky Canadians yeah it's crazy talk I just found somebody else today that refuses to do the Facebook thing and then keeps asking questions and people talk about this like go see for yourself why are you forcing me in this middleman position just go join just don't don't follow anybody block people, don't friend anybody but then still do the community stuff that sounds better to me every day than having you in the middle I expect so like locking people out removing people, unfriending everybody but then just participating in the community stuff yeah just that aspect yeah Sean you and I I don't know where Hal is we're at the opposite ends of a lot of the politics stuff but both of us agree we're right in the middle of like a lot of people need to shut up we're talking work stuff let's just talk about work stuff stop it you can easily focus on that politics is not a religion people politics is not a religion if you've crossed that barrier into when it's a religion then you got a lot of problems yeah and your prescription bills are probably going up there you go alright I've got another question here I've not previewed it so I'm going to read it raw just out there Heider is asking hi all so the client server based utility where in the client application is stored in local drive whereas the access database I don't think it's access with a capital A just the access database is stored in a network drive wanted to know if the entire utility so the client app as well as the access database can be moved to Microsoft teams so as to remove the dependency of network drives he is probably not so in that context it sounds like he is using an access database across the wire which I've seen many organizations do before but then you get into permissions across the wire and though you can store files online on the line exactly I'm thinking payphone all of a sudden yeah but yeah it's not SMB file sharing as you would have in a kind of a local network sort of situation though you can get the files across HTTP different protocols and different permission models are involved so it's not as it seems like it should work and in probably some worlds it's been made to work through things like WebDav and WebDav is a very old nasty Byzantine technology technological stack that if you've ever seen diagramed it is night marriage and how it is implemented for file access to make files on the internet and on network locations look like they're in standard file systems when they in fact are not so yeah I don't think that that's going to work for you you're going to have to get it to some source that at least you can interact with it through some layer that treats it like a file share and has permission set up in an equivalent fashion but that's not teams yeah well that's that's the main point that what they're trying to do is not a fit for what teams is yeah I can understand trying to make it that way but that's unfortunately stretching the metaphor too far well this goes back to a topic I think we addressed in one of the first episodes but it was a conversation point in the early like the first year of teams is does teams replace so Microsoft teams replace the need for a portal like a SharePoint portal and and so I guess that you can argue like for my organization a small company you know one principal some part-time people that in there in there I've got about a dozen people that have different licenses access into my environment that we do everything inside of teams so the only stuff I do in SharePoint besides the back end of teams is I have demo stuff so I don't have a standard portal it just there's no need for it would be duplicate work of other places it just didn't fit the way that we work and what we need yeah it's a lot of time and effort for right you know but even in that case I wouldn't try to go recreate or just certainly migrate other applications other solutions over inside of teams where it's a fit for possibly for SharePoint online or just retire the old way of doing it and doing it whatever new way right yeah because I mean there are web technologies that will address the need that you're indicating you've got with that application it's just going to require some re-architecture and redevelopment or re-implementation off of something other than server message block file share type stuff all right let's see okay we've got about 15 minutes left so if anybody gets watching on the live stream if you have any questions you'd like us to try to tackle feel free to type it in if we haven't butchered your favorite topic well enough yet there's plenty of time there's always time to destroy something else you know honestly in 15 minutes I think we could butcher 20 to 50 questions easily without lifting so much as a finger no I think that's the point is to not lift a finger and then we destroy them not answer them and not provide any value or we could probably handle 2-3 other questions yeah exactly let's see yeah there's some telephony stuff which is really our thing this is a different world yeah even though Microsoft rolls it all up into services don't take the rolling of those things together into services to somehow mean that they suddenly are on equivalent playing fields with equivalent sets of knowledge there's still very different disciplines they've just been brought together nicely by Microsoft well you know there were so few years back when you had still of course the just thinking is that I guess it was you know after the Skype acquisition but there were across the US there were maybe a dozen really good UC vendors so unified communications vendors that everybody used and there probably were more but I'm saying the go to that like the experts that had MVPs on staff and really knew what they were doing there was like a dozen of them that's it it wasn't it's it was so those companies did really well I'm specializing in that but almost all of their people came from that background telecom background unified communications background and a lot of them ones I talked to work with and they had I worked years ago at Pacific Bell so big phone company in California they got acquired I was there doing the acquisition by Southwestern Bell Southwestern Bell bought Meritek bought Southern New England telephone SNET and then bought AT&T and then rebranded as AT&T but it's really Southwestern people that bought everybody took over the world reconstituted the old AT&T brand but you know a lot of the people that were in the UC world at least in the Western US they all had PacBell internet and D-Lex C-Lex backgrounds the DSL companies or they came through like Lucent and Octel and a bunch of these other telecom providers and so it was like they found their space there's a lot of like might go to people right now or Jonathan McKinney and Adam Ball because they're just over the hill they're over in the Denver side of the hill for me so same time zone it's easiest but they generally have all the questions but they all the answers for those questions but they're in demand for that stuff too so yeah great consolidation days yeah so MPLS circuit for Microsoft team services does anyone knows about summary report at admin center there is overall call activity server client client to client voice quality SLA I didn't see any info inside summary report yeah don't know it's all teams related stuff more PBX questions yeah no sorry sorry people yeah that's like back when I did IT support you know can you fix the fax machine I'm like we're not even speaking the same language here maybe maybe I'll certainly look at it you got a washing machine I can look at at the same time can you fix that Sean I just I found an awesome video that was one of those where it was just one of those daily internet and name videos and in fact I think it was a collection of videos that were found that were safe for viewing at work or home in mixed company but from reddit and one of them was somebody found in a junkyard a washing machine and it was just just torn apart gave it power and it worked but it was chunk chunk chunk and just shaking all over the place and it made me think so I have a bumble ball I got it from my grandson and it made me think it's like you could build all you need to do is weld on some kind of nubs or something onto that washing machine that box and you have a giant bumble ball if you don't know what this is by the way it's uh it's all turning on here oh my god the batteries are low on it but you put it down and it just kind of yeah jiggles so uh yeah I was going to say that dogs love it except that both of my dogs are afraid of it that's fantastic but uh but wouldn't that be like the coolest thing have that like this big industrial strength I mean it'll kill you yeah while you're laughing you may lose an arm cause of that bumbled hahahaha what a way to go Darwin award winner of the year industrial strength bumble ball death by bumble ball yeah fantastic it just got me thinking now um it dropped some stuff off the weekend at the thrift store and I was thinking about going in I wonder if they have any old washing machines hahahaha do not don't think it well I don't have the welding that I need like spot welding I need to figure it out I mean there's there'd be some more effort involved but I it would be fun to do I think your wife might say otherwise yeah and then powering it as well would uh yeah yeah yeah I'm not saying I'm going to do it I'm just I'm just saying it's interesting yeah one of those guys yeah one of the myth busters guys the uh the younger guys uh he just passed away um what's his name Grant oh really not Jamie or Adam yeah no no one of the junior the three the two guys it's one of the guys oh that's stupid yeah so I think he had like I don't know what it was like a heart attack or you know brain aneurysm or something or other it was I mean he's too young he was he's only 48 I think 47 47 yeah so really sad uh healthier than I am so survived all those years on the show only to go out waiting but uh but I was just my point was that I could do it and dedicated to Grant you know so I think Rackley would help he understands me there I'm not I'm not sure Rackley would be very interested in the results he might back you on it he might say he supports you on it but help I um I don't know I hope you're thinking you're going to get yeah well we're too far apart you know uh geographically to make that work that kind of help anyway but uh you know maybe we put a big paid group you know a sponsor you know sticker on it or something you know now hit Melissa his wife will not stand for that I mean she's a good woman but um you know she'll call BS on them now and then and well we all do though I mean it's Mark come on yeah well she's a good woman to be married to him I'll say that sorry uh let's see uh let's see we've got one final question let's see um oh here's an interesting question is there an ability to turn off thread this comes from Cade not out of my own imagination uh is there an ability to turn off threading of conversations in channels um I'll read the rest of it here maybe we aren't following standard use case but when we use Slack we add channels for ongoing projects um uh so 365 migration DC setup under the 365 migration we would post anything about 365 migration under DC setup anything about DC setup however with teams it has threading so we end up with a bit of a mess since it isn't one big thread can we turn off reply so everything is just one big conversation flatten out the conversation structure yeah um and so I think a couple people responded um you know are you just using chat why not create a team and then channels for each topic um somebody else martin says no you cannot turn it off adopt the team's way and reconfigure your way of working yeah um so I mean yeah but I think that's a good point that Peter made is that um you can just use chat and that's the way that it works right when you want threaded discussion uh it's that ongoing around you know a channel then what channel conversations you cannot flatten that discussion but in a chat that's what it is it's flat yeah it's just rolling yep um yeah and any any cade clarifies he says maybe I'm not explaining correctly in a channel I feel it is too easy to start a new conversation versus just continuing the same one so you end up with you know a bunch of a single conversation that jumps around and you have to search through other side conversations to find to follow up on that thread which I completely understand I think martin's response of look if you're looking for something that's dedicated to that topic create a channel yeah yeah that makes sense I think you're trying to once you get to that point you're trying to co-op the product to work a very specific way when the ability to uh thread those discussions is by many seen as a benefit not a disadvantage well there's a couple options too is that you can always create a tag or use a hashtag and so you can filter your view based on that that tag so you can have that and so just have it's it's a training that you then and anybody wants to talk about that specific topic that they add the hashtag in there to be able to filter the view on that um and you know the other this is just one of those things where you just need to have good community moderation to guide people correct them you know on that because they can go back in and edit a comment where they forgot to add the hashtag or the tag into that so um you can do that or training little lead by example right or create a different channel or create a chat so you can you can do that if you want to uh I mean the other the other the other thing and this kind of goes back to it depending on how you're using teams my guidance is always that uh if you're trying to follow a conversation and in all hands everyone has access all access uh team good luck to you yeah teams is was designed and was initially uh promoted as something that is for your working team there's a reason why the ideal number of the most optimal number of direct reports for a manager is actually five employees optimal team size a manager a project manager and five employees data has shown can you do more sure you can do that depending on that level of activity but when you're trying to have a focused conversation if you've got a bunch of people that are trying to do something and taking something sideways my first response would be you have the right people in there you invited everybody in the cacophony of the cocktail party right and you can solve that by saying pull the it's now gotten too loud let's go over into this side room and have a chat or create a new channel where the five people that actually need to discuss that that that topic can be at peace absolutely so yeah i'm with you on that all right well we we are over time gentlemen so thanks so much for participating and for those that that haven't seen this if what i'll be doing tomorrow is i'll be consolidating both our am and pm recordings and upload that to youtube you can go and find all of this out on youtube under my company collab talk you can find these office hours recordings this is episode 18 18 also on the on the buckling planet blog i will go through and i'll add this to the description also in youtube but i go through and parse through every topic and add the time stamps with links for those so you don't have to sift through two hours of content you'll be able to jump to the specific topics that we have that we jump around in as well as i also time stamp the the fun topics the non-essential topics the anecdotes yeah the the us killing time in between that as always if you have questions you can reach out to Sean howl myself through the social channels whatever is your preference we're all over the place if you have other questions if you post them over in facebook and cc all three of us are out there so Sean p mcdonough or sp mcdonough tv wizard and buckley planet on twitter you can reach us out but we will respond to stuff you don't have to wait a whole week right but if you post them up on facebook and either the microsoft teams or the office 365 communities we will likely answer them next week as well so if there's anything that's up there over the course of the week and with that draw our attention to it gentlemen have a great rest of your evening you too talk to you later well actually i fly out so thursday night i fly to minnesota good luck with that and then drive yeah i'm excited get to see the grandson but then driving them back to utah via mount rushmore which is one of my favorite monuments i'm excited to go see it before they tear it all down we'll get some good pictures along the way oh definitely well i'm sure it'll be freakishly hot so that'll be fine but black hills if you've not been there it's just gorgeous that part of the US is just beautiful so looking forward to it we'll be driving through sturgis as well i need to check to make sure that sturgis is not happening i don't know what time of year it's happening but i'm sure the cobit is not stopping that it's hard to say but yeah i would steer clear of that yeah just quick starting my first time visiting mount rushmore was right smack dab in the middle of sturgis and when i pulled into billings montana and there were no hotel rooms and i said ah it's okay i can drive for a couple more hours into northern wyoming going towards south dakota and the guy at the hotel is like you're not going to find anything he's like you need to go west to find any open hotels you're not going to find anything within 500 miles 400 miles and it was like 400 miles of sturgis everything was possible just going to find rows and rows of bikes yeah it's where for people that know sturgis that's where is it headquarters of harley davidson and so it's their annual event and they're harley's hundreds of miles radius from sturgis yeah it's the biker's burning man i will also say that i had my two young sons with me three young sons with me and we went to mount rushmore and a couple times where i had to redirect the boys quickly back into the bookstore store there were some biker crowds that were lacking clothing so one's savory anyway sturgis good times alright guys bye bye