 Yeah. All right. So, Becky, I don't know if you want to take the reins here. Sure. So, agenda. Yeah, so again, this is a meeting of the working group of the age friendly, agent dementia friendly Amherst working group. So there are two attendees listening and so you'll be invited to, to contribute comments during the public comment period of the meeting. But so the objectives of this meeting are to get a. So based on the status of the surveys, distribution, printing, and response responses. And then we're going to talk about a proposed plan for community engagement beyond the survey. So some topic-based forums and discussions going forward and whether or not we can have those online or in person. And then look at dates for these forums and also a regular date for working group meetings. But I guess, why don't we go around and do quick introductions? Do we want to do that? Sure. Yeah, sure. Just state your name. We don't need intros because we did that last time. And unless, unless folks weren't here last time. Then. Then you can say, maybe we can just get any new folks because I think our names are all on there. Oh, true. Yeah. That's a good point. Yeah. Are there any new folks that weren't, weren't able to attend the January 20th meeting? I think I wasn't here. Oh yeah. I was not, I was not here the last meeting. Unfortunately, I was unable to make it. Okay. Yeah. Margaret. I don't know. Just stay to state your name and tell us, you know, are you a resident of Amherst or are you a caregiver or what's your association to this project? So I'm a. Panelist. I taught the psychology of aging, and I'm working with the library to create open educational resources. Or open resources about aging. And I had my interest is that I had an elderly father who's 56 when I was born. And so if I was able to know what he was going through when I was younger, I think it would have been beneficial to everyone. And the more I've learned about the aging process, the more I've realized it is something that happens to everyone and there are small things that can make big differences. So I would like to try and bring some of my expertise as well as my personal experience with my own family to help the citizens of Amherst. And I live in North Hampton, which is why I'm a panelist and not a member. All right. And Christine. Hi, I'm Chris Brestrup. I'm the planning director and I'm here to listen and learn about this project and support Maureen in her work. So hello everybody. Hi Chris. Thanks for tuning in Chris. All right. So, Becky, I guess we can go to the first meeting agenda item of the agenda. Sure. So, the survey, I've been, I was away for two weeks. So, well I was gone a lot happened, but the survey was finalized the planning office had it translated into Spanish and Portuguese, and also developed a cover letter, which I think you all received, a number of different languages and just says that people can call the Council on Aging if they want to survey in those different languages. And I understand that a mailing was completed. And that was 500. Is that right, John? Yeah, we sent out 500 surveys. That was about 10 days ago. And we've gotten 70 back so far, which is pretty good. I expect within the next week or two, another 10 days will probably be over 100. We are planning to do a second follow-up mailing, and hopefully that'll get us over a couple hundred surveys from the mailing process, which would be terrific if we could get that number. Has anyone been entering those hard copies since you've received them or do you need help with that? We may need help with that. I said we have 70 back. I entered a few just to test the process and I found one minor problem, which I reported to Nicole. I'm not a major problem, just one thing that kind of slipped by probably. Other than that, I think the data entry should be fine. After this meeting, I'm giving Chad 25 surveys to enter. So that means we'll have a little bit, maybe 40 left, which I have to assign. And I think I've got a couple of people. So we may need help in a few days, but as of right now, we've started on the process of entering them. I also want to note that Maureen set up the process. We all gathered at the town room and town hall. And with her help, more team, Rosemary Koffler, Lucia Tarowski, and Chad Fuller, who I already mentioned, stuffed 500 on the slopes. And then Maureen put them in the mail. So again, I think we'll get back somewhat over 100. I don't want to be too optimistic, but I think that's a conservative estimate. And we plan to do a second mailing in about 10 days and hopefully that will be as successful as first. And so 70 out of 500. So right now, we've received 14% back. Yeah. Yeah, so that's that's a good turnout so far, I think. And maybe I'd like to see 20 to 25% back. All right, and then Haley. So Haley, our senior service director is taking the lead with, with working with our COVID ambassadors and volunteers with potential questions or assistance that would be needed for taking the survey. Could you speak about that, Haley? So we have the COVID ambassadors coming in about four or five days a week. And they are, they're helping people when they have questions, but they're also making cold calls to people who participate in our programs to let them know about the survey and ask if they need any help doing it online. The process has been a little slow going. I think we had one volunteer who spent an hour with one individual on the phone so it's not as high a turnout as we'd like but they are chugging along and making progress on that front. And then so, so the surveys are being offered in English, Spanish and Portuguese, and then we have a statement page that is, that says, if you would like assistance, please call this phone number or email address and that's stated in Korean, Chinese and and so I believe the COVID ambassadors, among others, will help with potentially helping with translation or perhaps redirecting them to those that can or fluent in those specific languages. And then, Haley, you, so the surveys, if you complete the survey and you mail it back, it goes to a PO box that John Hornick set up. And then, and then if in the event that the survey that we mail is undeliverable for whatever reason the person no longer lives there or or what have you it's it'll get brought back to the post office and then brought back to senior services to Haley how many have you received of undeliverables, only one. Oh, okay, there you go. And so we could recycle that. Not the word recycle, we could reuse that. And for for someone to use and fill out. Okay, great. I'll ask a question. John, you referred to that there was a glitch on the online survey. I, I did it myself without any problem but we did have a member who wrote back to say that they got stuck. And it kept returning to page one so I just don't know if that was a one off or that I don't know Liz because there were different links and I just used the one for the mail survey. And the problem that I encountered was there's an item I think was 54 where people can reply or well, and the survey that it's entering someone had put in two responses, which they're supposed to be able to do. The computer survey monkey program that I was entering into wouldn't only allow me put him one. So I let Nicole know about that that was the only problem that I encountered. So I think if you see others, the person to report that to his Nicole or and right Becky. You email me and I'll get it to her was managing those. Okay, that's good to know. Thank you. I'll double check what the issue was. Yeah, there was one issue that was forwarded to her and I think it ended up not being an issue but I'm not sure if that was the same one that you're talking about. I don't know. And then Becky I had two questions for you if you could provide an update. One, what can do you have any reporting of the turnout so far in survey monkey so the online survey version. Yeah, we've got 227 responses which is amazing for the first couple weeks. Oh, that's great. And I guess so so far in terms of engaged online engagement, Haley sent out the email with the survey links and has it been posted on Facebook I haven't seen all the online engagement yet. Something's working so good. I'll check. I'll check with Briana on that I think I still need access to some of our social media accounts. I only just got set up through civic plus last week. But we've been using we've been referring people to engage Amherst almost exclusively it just seems to be the easiest way to get the information out. I did have some people who said they had issues but they seem to be corrected by just refreshing your browser or using, you know, Chrome instead of Internet Explorer. The library did posted online. Oh, oh great. I'm trying to go to the town's Facebook page now so our communications manager did a terrific job of featuring the survey and the projects on our on the homepage to to the town of Amherst website and it's been featured on engage Amherst and I noticed that it was featured in the Amherst Indy and the Daily Hampshire Gazette. For some reason I didn't think about checking Facebook, or any other sort of social media. But yeah so Haley perhaps you could look into that if I can't follow up with her. Yeah, my guess is she probably did, but I don't know officially. And then Becky did you want to make a clarifying note about whether these surveys are anonymous or not. Yeah, we had a question from one person about that and I think that's something that we had discussed before but we didn't end up putting anything on the cover letter or survey but survey responses are anonymous. We've asked people if they want to provide contact information for the drawing and or if they want the senior senator to reach out about services or programs and I think what what we can do to ensure the anonymity of survey responses, at least on the survey make monkey side is, you know, we'll we'll provide the list of contacts to the senior center and we'll use the list for the drawing. And then we can remove that information from the data before we forward it to john and anyone else who's doing the analysis. We do have the hard copies, but I, I don't foresee any issues there I think we'll we'll just dispose of those once they're entered into survey monkey. So I don't know we, we should probably include that in any online outreach that we're doing going forward. Maybe we just sending the print order today so I don't know if it's too late to add that to the cover letter but I can see and we can add that. Yeah we could certainly clarify that on the project page. So we have all our sort of online advertisement for the project and the survey. And we have to drop off locations, including the bank center and the Jones library at the, at the circulation desk or across from the circulation desk and we could well we're going to have like a sort of signage to help locate that the drop off box so perhaps the signage can include a little note saying you know the surveys will be anonymous. We can add that we've already got a couple return that way. Oh great how many only about five but that's still pretty good. I'm writing this all down drop off returns and that's just that the Jones, not the Jones, the bangs at the bangs. And so, and that's five five returned. I see Rosemary has a question. Rosemary. Now my question is how are we reaching people who are rather isolated who don't get out or can't get out or are just not as connected as as most of us in the community. How are we getting to those people who I think their responses and their needs are probably the greatest and we have to be sure that we get in touch with them. Yeah, so that'll be primarily conducted through telephone outreach by having these coven ambassadors make phone calls to residents of you know and Wayland Clark House and anyone that we know of at the senior center who's home bound. Yeah, that's a good question I mean we. So as Haley said they're calling individuals. You know I don't know beyond the list that Haley has how we how we can identify others who might who might not be able to get out or to do an online survey but in in any press releases going forward we can certainly tell people to call the senior center if they want to want help with the survey. Yeah, in the cover letters that were mailed out to to the our samples are sample of 500 individuals includes you know a statement saying that if you need assistance please call you know senior service at senior service at Amherst ma.gov or to call them directly and that same statement is listed on the project page and on the homepage of the town website where you know we're featuring this project so I guess it is putting sort of the onerous on individuals to go on the website and and and find, find this project. But we, you know, with the assistance of Haley and her staff and volunteers, they will be taking calls and responding to emails if there's any inquiries. Two pieces of information I may be incorrect. John is going to try to make a correction for a true sample of the entire universe. We have a street directory, and I think there's what we call it a survey that was done that shows the agent population of the town maybe those two could be combined in the final correction process. Chad, the sample of 500 was indeed a sample it was something that Marine through from the town street list randomly. So, we'll be able to compare information from those people who completed the survey with information about the population we have in the overalls town street list. So that wasn't 500 of people over 55. Yes, all people over the age of 55. Sorry, I didn't say that. Yeah. So this gets at Rosemary what rose, can I interrupt you for one second. Could you speak up or maybe speak closer to your microphone, you're very, you sound very far away. So that gets at what Rosemary was mentioning. The isolated, the people who are not, you know, listening to the internet or some of the other more easy methods to pick people up at her question. Point taken Chad, thank you. Is there, you have a regular newsletter that goes out to right are you advertising the survey in there. Yeah, that was on the front page about the survey. And we'll feature it in the next May June edition as well. And it also the survey did go out to all Amherst neighbors members. Yeah, it went out to all of our mailing list. So that included people who are not members. So over 500 people. Great, great. Thank you for doing that. So that was by email. That was by email. Yes. And one of the things just listening to this call we do have some people who have contacted us both as non members and members who they do not have email. So I think I actually want to run our list to particularly reach out to them by phone. We have a fair number of people from Clark House who, who are that group who don't have email, but I think would be interested in the survey. Yeah, and then I believe Haley had mentioned that are the COVID ambassadors going to reach out to housing development such as the Clark House to make calls. We can't get a list of phone numbers of residents in those complexes, but we can definitely call people in our system. And what we can also do is we're going to make plans to do this in the near future is distribute those surveys along with our meals on wheels and home delivered meals program. A lot of the people that we're calling right now are also participants in that and that will reach folks who are homebound and not able to leave. And then Haley as a follow up question just even for my education, and perhaps others, when you say our system what is it what does that mean. So we have a database of participants at the senior center through a platform called my senior center. And it just has people's contact information, you know what programs they attend and so we keep records on service stats. Mary has her hand up. Yes, I have a question for Amherst neighbors. You said it goes out to fight has gone out to 500 people are those all Amherst residents are. Most of them are Amherst residents are we have almost 300 members and those are all Amherst. Well, I have to say some are Pellum, but we've communicated that this is just an Amherst. Okay. That's a good question. So some are Pellum and some and in terms of our broader database I'm sure there's some people in there who've attended our programs who don't even live in Amherst or Pellum. So, so you have only member your membership list has to be Amherst only Amherst and Pellum. Oh and Amherst neighbors is Amherst and Pellum. Okay, okay. So someone from never can become a member. No. Okay. And then, sorry, to jump back to the senior service database, Haley, do you what's the what how many seniors are in that database, you know, roughly, if you don't know the exact number. We've got to have over a couple thousand. It's pretty, and I don't know the last time that we really fine tuned that information, but it's extensive. That's great. That's great to hear. So we also, I'm looking at the survey engagement plan and we had a long list of organizations who we were going to ask to distribute the survey on the email list or list serves. I guess. Yeah, Haley, could you speak to that. You were going to. Which thing. Which thing. I'm looking at the survey engagement plan. I can share it if you want. Yeah. So once I get the booklets, I'll be dropping off at the Amherst survival center and at Craig's place. We already have surveys available at the bank center and there's some at the Jones library they'll get booklets to once those are finished. And then we'll be doing some more outreach calls for doctors offices and churches, just kind of like on a rotating basis. Okay, so has anyone emailed these email lists so we have former town meeting members there's a list of. Churches business improvement district. And I guess, does anyone have access to all these email lists or. I do Becky I was waiting for authorization from Maureen to go ahead and do some of this. Okay. Yeah, and actually, I want to hold on Amherst department senior center. And I believe Haley has done targeted emails to some of these groups already working group and then Paul sent out an email to all staff, all town staff got that. And advising everyone to staff to forward along to their particular boards or committees. So for instance, I'm a staff liaison to three boards, including the zoning board of appeals the design review board and the disability access advisory committee and so I afford the information about the surveys to those three boards. So, john yeah I guess if you have any of these other email lists just just let it just confirm which ones and that you are. I do. I maintain these for various reasons I, I just don't know exactly what Maureen and Haley have done so I know that then I can fill in with the others. So it's, it sounds like just working group and the town staff have been covered but not always. Does that include the disability advisory committee and veteran service. Yeah, yep, so that that is a town committee. Okay. I see that one church or maybe two is left out I think these are very important. Because they get it the populations rosemary and I were pointing to people that are isolated at the edge of our town line. It's called. Actually, I don't know the name it's the voting center in North Amherst that used to be a Christian church is now. I think it's Korean Baptist or Korean Methodist. Are you familiar with yeah I don't have an email for them if anybody does send it to me and I'll make sure that gets up with the additional churches that I have listed. The one that's left out you have hope there but not good one. When that gets at the. I am. Okay. That gets at the two black churches in town. Again, I don't have an email for them. No email is not the best way. That's why we're missing. Okay. We need to have personal contact. Okay, well that's good to know we'll, we can work on that we are. So in addition to this to get it to sending emails out about the surveys. We are getting some printed the print order just went in so we're getting 500 English. 75 Spanish and 25 Portuguese, I think it was 50 Portuguese 50 Portuguese. Okay. And so morning has some connections with the Spanish speaking Portuguese. I do not but but. Really, and john have connections to Haley's volunteers and john and has community members that they have contacts with residents that are native speakers of Portuguese and Spanish so maybe john and Haley could speak to that. I mean, we have wanted to heal is our bilingual outreach coordinator so certainly we'll have her make some phone calls to residents. And then we have a covert ambassador who's fluent in Portuguese, and I can work with her as well and identify people that we can reach out to. Great. So these. Yeah, so these printed copies will be available if they are not comfortable doing it online. And since rare and I have agreed on something like 18 people we're going to reach out to individually, some of whom are black, some are Hispanic, some Portuguese. So we'll be distributing those surveys to those people asking them to try to get at least five, if not more back to us so that we have a good outreach program for communities of color. Thank you for for assisting with that and and I still haven't spoken directly to Sid think continue to thank Sid for his assistance with this. Haley, what is your estimated time for these booklets to be delivered to Amherst. He just dropped them off yesterday right and it's through Amherst copy. It's actually through millennium press so they'll deliver them to the senior center. I imagine I'll be by the end of the week. Great. So then we can work on the following week getting those out. Yep. Yeah, so john you could touch base with Haley about that probably hold off until Monday to be safe about picking up copies. Okay. Ready for pickup. Today's date is the 28th so next week would be March. March the 7th. Yeah, would be maybe the estimated delivery will be ready. Yeah, I imagine I'll be by the end of this week. Yeah. Great. Yeah. So before we move on to the next agenda item, does anyone have any questions about our additional questions or comments about the survey status. I believe Chad is offering to assist with doing data entry. Yeah, thank you. Data entry from the physical hard copy and then putting it into the survey monkey. If anyone wants to help volunteer with stuff with perhaps data entry, or if you know anyone that speaks, you know, Spanish or Portuguese, you know, please chime in now or you can shoot Haley both in an email. That would be really helpful. Okay, so I guess we can move on to the next agenda item Becky. Okay, so next is a community engagement plan and timeline which which one sent out. And I can share that also. So what we're proposing and this is what has worked in other communities and I do want feedback from all of you to see what you think will work in Amherst. But what we're proposing is to do a series of discussion forums. In the, in the past we've done them with congregate lunches at the senior center, or just with working group, working group members and invited sort of topic. specific stakeholders so like for transportation building and outdoor spaces we'd invite someone from the DPW parks department as well as, you know, open it up to the public, and really try to get older adults to come to us with the purpose of, you know, we sort of do a broad overview of the project, and then ask people to list challenges, you know, assets and challenges in those topic areas. And then if I do it in person I usually have like a dot voting system where we ask people to go up and vote on priorities. So online it's kind of harder to do that, but we could do sort of a prioritization process later with an online survey or something like that. So what we have here is proposed is on Mondays, I guess it's the fourth Monday from 230 to four. And I'm not sure what the Haley what's the latest in terms of meetings in person. The senior center is still holding in person meetings, and I've blocked off that timeline on the fourth Monday in our large activity room which houses about 100 people, or in person sessions. So we, you know, we would be able to do that. And if need be we can still be massed or socially distant, you know, depending on what happens at the Board of Health level. So, can you clarify that Haley you're having. So, I staff three board meetings so we've we're meeting virtually but our, when are you offering senior activities like exercise fitness classes those are in person. Those are all in person the only thing we're limited or prohibited from doing right now is congregate dining in any like indoor singing or music activities. But we still have exercise classes we have a Shakespearean literature group that meets here, and we're going to be onboarding more programs in person in the coming months. So, we would just need to clarify with the town manager and the health department director about have holding in person forums, because the town manager is having is for all meetings, besides the town council until April 1 all meetings are being held virtually, and then he needs to make a decision whether meetings will be allowed to be held in person. So, what are folks. So, let's just say, you know, Paul Bachman is sort of, you know, open to the idea of holding these meetings in person these listening sessions. Do people have opinions of one way or the other would you want to meet in person or do you have concerns. I didn't do it hybrid do you have that technology, like if, because I'm thinking you know we had a couple of people who are disabled and it was easier for them to do zoom. Maybe Chris Breastrup could speak to this. I know that the town council has had hybrid meetings. We require staffing from our IT department. So there would need to be coordination, and you know, we would need to see if, if they're available during these times so I wouldn't want to commit to something at this time not knowing other departments workload and in the sort of technology demands that would be required to provide at the bank center or wherever the meeting would be held. Yeah, I would just, I would just add to that said and then there are no other boards that are having hybrid meetings. We have the technology that we don't have the staff to do it so if we were to do something hybrid it would be an exception. That's not available to any of the other boards at this time because of the staff workloads. Thank you Alex, Chris. So I just wanted to mention that there's going to be a department heads meeting next week and an old staff meeting the week after. And plans for meetings, you know, public meetings may become clearer after that but Maureen's right that the town manager has put a kind of a hold on most in person meetings until April 1. And the only exception to that is the town council, which does get support from it to hold hybrid meetings. The governor has recently allowed remote meetings to continue until July 15 and that's for public bodies. So that may have some impact on what the town manager decides to do but yes everyone's right in saying that we don't have enough staff to hold hybrid meetings for bodies of event town council at this time. Thank you for the question. Sure. I'd ask what is the purpose and try to design a better may possibly a better way to do it for instance, out of the center around in the local in non town owned properties where there aren't the rules that require certain things be done. I'm not sure what the purpose is the hybrid sounds great because it reaches out more, but what what is the purpose of them of the forums. The purpose is to really hear from older adults about their specific challenges. It's just a different way of engagement beyond the survey. You tend to get a lot more discussions in these forums and I find when you invite other stakeholders like DPW and, and, you know, town department heads. It's an opportunity for them to hear directly from older adults where you know they might not otherwise. You know, Amherst has a really good, good level of engagement so that that may not be the case in Amherst but it's just a different form of engagement to gather information for the report. Yeah, it's like the blank question at the very end. Right. When you have a dialogue to information is going in both directions that can be a lot more information gathered if you have a note taker or recorder or something like that. You may want to do it in areas that are not constrained such as, you know, for North Amherst it might be pushman markets, you know, for South Amherst it might be the church and at the common or, or something like that. That's a good point. Thanks Chad. Liz. Yeah, my only other thought is, I know it's more work but to potentially do both kinds of meetings for people who really can't get out to do online and then in person. That's a good point. I agree with Liz on that. Thank you for your questions and Carolyn. Okay, thank you. Those are, yeah, those are something for us to consider a variety of variety of for a variety of reasons. Yeah, it might be a time where people, some people feel safe attending and other people don't regardless of what the town decides. Sure, sure. Yep. Yep. Yeah, we may. I don't know if we could, we may want to either consolidate a couple and just have, you know, three in person one online or something like that. Or just offer one online version for, you know, that covers all the topics. It's going to get pretty cumbersome. I find as we do these that the more you have the less participation you get because it kind of stretches out but and I do appreciate Chad your your suggestion of doing it in other locations. I think I want to think about that a little because we'll want to, we'll want to advertise these so it would involve, you know, just, just being able to find other locations and, and that could be a little bit complicated but it's possible. We could think about focus groups and in a couple of different places. We have Haley and wanting to put this this draft plan together they did suggest having people in person at events like farmers market Juneteenth celebration and the concert series on the common. That's something we could, you know, get help with the interns. I did start to interrupt you Becky, Haley, did you want to speak to perhaps what you would envision for, you know, tabling at a farmers market or at the Juneteenth celebration or the Friday summer concert series on the common. So here we're working on that poster, and I would do like little leaflets, but it would be really great if we could have you know some staff and extra help that way we have more people who can walk out into the farmers market and really be engaging with folks. You know we could make buttons for them to wear. All those things are kind of good conversation starters. I think it's really just, it's really just comes down to personalities and how we can present the message in a way that'll get people's attention and get them interested in taking part in this project. Yeah, and so, perhaps, you know, there could be survey forms, and like a laptop. So, you know that can do that hard copies. It might be easier just to have the paper instead of brain the laptop with us. Yeah, yeah. So we can have the survey copies in different languages, all at the table. You know, things like that, and then speak probably about the different. So, each month these listening sessions have a different focus and Becky was showing that on the on the screen and so, for instance, the first monthly listening session would be about building and outdoor spaces. The second one would be on housing. The third one would be on social participation and inclusion technology and civil engagement. We, we decided with the assistance of our assistant director of our new office on just on diversity equity inclusion. Jennifer Moisten thought it would be a nice complimentary event to have the social participation inclusion listening session in June as a complimentary event to the Juneteenth celebration. So we'll hold that and then the I guess the fourth one in July would be health and community services and public health. So, you know, I'm sure Haley is envisioning, you know, if, if, you know, if staff and volunteers were at the table at the farmers market, you know, they could engage seniors about these topics and about the project in general. And then additionally about the services that Haley and her staff provide at senior services. So, you know, seniors are unaware or just people in general under unaware of like spirit or the different activities offered that would be a really great opportunity to engage the public. And I think the farmers markets will be good. They're consistent. I'm not aware of any town events that are going on in May. So that might be the only way we can connect with people in the community. And to just have a poster sheet or something where people could write on, you know, what their talent what they think the priority should be or what challenges they face just as a way for people to add information. I also might suggest the health and community services and public safety one we might want to also include dementia awareness in that one. Not to do a whole outreach, not to do a whole education on on recognizing signs of dementia but just sort of highlighting its importance which will do throughout each of these but I think it's good to have one that's specifically focused on dementia. Mm hmm. All right. And let's see here. So everyone should have been with every all the working group members were provided this plan. As well as the agenda. And it is also listed in the town calendar meeting posting for today's meeting. So, if you hadn't have a chance to review this I would say take take a moment. You know, some time, you know this week and take a review it and if you have any suggestions. Feel free to email Haley Bolton or myself. So, do we want to just add one more session that would be online. And then, you know, if I think if we're going to do location specific events or discussions that might just be separate from from what we have on a poster for these. So we could maybe just add one sort of in the middle somewhere with which would be an online forum. Yeah, so I think Becky, we're going to have to work with staff and work with the town manager about the status of online versus in person versus a hybrid approach. And so you had mentioned that, you know, there should be a listening session on dementia and which one would that be combined with or would that be its own. That would be the fourth one the fourth one so that one two three four so there's four now you're you're proposing a fifth one. And if we do an online one or we could do, you know, just plan to do the first one online. That makes sense. But you folk, could you fold in dementia awareness for the fourth one. Yeah. Health and community services public safety and in a way it all ties into dementia awareness. Yeah, that's that's what I was saying but also, you know, we'll mention dementia throughout if we do the first one online. So we could also promote it as, you know, sort of a broad overview and encourage people who might not be able to go in person to attend that one. That might be a good way to go because then we'll, we'll have one online to start with as we're, as we're sort of unsure about things. I don't know what do you think Haley. No, I think that seems reasonable to buy to give ourselves a little more time on the in person. And if we have an online one does, does this time do you think is, is that good or should we do one that's more an evening. Well I like keeping it consistent at least if we're going to change the time for one I think we should do for all. Okay. So I think one group members does 230 to four on on the fourth Mondays of each month with that work. Typically. Yeah, okay, great. Before I guess we move on to the next agenda item. Did, does anyone have any comments or questions about the community engagement plan and timeline as shown. If our timeline was expanded, we could do a better job. Of course, you know, we can have it in buses. We could have it in tabling at big Y and stop and shop. We all sorts of things that we could do, but I don't know what the timeline is. The goal is to have the report completed by the end of December. And so I mean I'm, I'm fairly flexible I think I think the main constraint is just my time so if there are volunteers who want to do other events. Or if we, you know, if we get assistance from other organizations. I'm happy to add events as long as you know, whoever's whoever's doing it can be responsible for taking notes and contributing whatever feedback you get. And then we can just wrap that into the report. Chris, do you raise your hand. If you wanted to add St. Bridgets to this list of churches that you would reach out to. Oh, good catch. Thank you Chris. And actually they have a Sunday morning mass that targets the Latinx community. St. Bridgets. St. Bridgets the Catholic Church right across the downtown Amherst. Okay, great. So they have a mass in Spanish. The Spanish mass and Sunday mornings. Yes, great. Yes. Okay, that's good to know. Yeah, it's 1130. So it sounds like we're ready to move on to the next item. So we'll develop a poster for this series and we had a long list of organizations for electronic copies and hard copies to distribute that as well. So I guess the next agenda item is setting a regular meeting time for working group meetings. We're doing fourth. Sometimes it's good to just meet in between the forums. So, let's see, might want to meet again. The first forum would be in April, April 28. So it seems like the, would folks be available. I guess if we wanted to sort of have that consistent schedule with the fourth March work, I guess I think that's one, the 28th at 230 230 to four with that work as the next working group meeting and then, and then it seems like after that. Between April and July, we would continue to have our working group meeting slash listening listening sessions. Yeah, you say that again Maureen, I was thinking we might want to. Yeah, I guess we can see if we need to, I don't think we need to have working group meetings separate from the forums. I'm not, I'm just trying to think that through. Sometimes we have like a check in meeting after the first forum just to get feedback on how it worked and stuff. So, but why don't we plan to have the next working group meeting on March 28 and then 230. Yeah, yeah, I like the idea of maybe a check in after the first listening session to see how that went. But maybe we could schedule that at the next meeting. That's a good idea. Okay, great. Wow, good timing anyone else have any comments it's 1130. Okay, did you want to, we didn't have, we have two people from the public did you want to quick see if anyone has comments who are attending. Yeah, so if anyone from the public wishes to speak, you would hand or if you're calling in press star nine. Okay, so it looks like Susan crimp. Let's see here allowed to speak. All right, you should be. Let's see here. Asked him. I think I clicked on mute. Hi. I am interested in the dementia focus of things and we'll work with Haley on being some backup on a couple of these projects. This is my first town committee meeting but it's a topic I am very interested in and have worked at for on and off for 10 years since I took care of my mother with dementia. Thank you for coming. Okay. That's it. Well thanks everyone. And yeah, so I guess we will see you in March. Yeah, thank you. Thanks. All right, and so I will what will I do, I will send out meeting notes from today, and I'll send the recording from today. And we made some sweat, some edits based on today's meeting will update the, the, the overall community engagement plan, and we'll send out the latest version of that. Check your invoice in the coming days, or in your inbox. Thank you. Sorry. Okay. You know when the hard copies are ready. Yes. Okay, thanks. Have a great day.