 Go ahead. Coach, a couple of depth chart questions. Keith, moving to tight end, that was all when they really jumped out, right? Well, couldn't put 12 guys on there. No, I mean, it's not. I mean, he's kind of, he can play on multiple spots for us. So it just made a little more sense just to put them in that spot. Keith's got to have a big role. He'll play multiple roles for us. But it was no big time change other than we just put the depth chart out with 12 personnel. And also, they get their captains. What's your captain's philosophy? Yeah, we voted on it. Yeah, no, we voted on it this morning. And I'm going to let the players do it. I've been around it where you vote. And then the head coach then decides who he wants. And I don't think you get an authentic picture of it. We'll release our Bassidy and his crew. They can't wait to put the social media video out. So I'm going to give it to Bassidy here in a minute. But we'll release it this afternoon. Well, they voted this morning. I've covered this in depth already. How much did you know Matt prior to the powering process here? How much time did y'all know? No, I didn't know Matt. I knew of Matt. Obviously, you know, my Milwaukee, I work for Mike in Tennessee. Mike was Matt's first offensive coordinator here in Atlanta. Obviously, Matt's, you know, I'm not that much older than Matt. I know I look a lot older. He's a lot better shape. And he's not as gray. But we ironically played against each other in college. And he's a couple years younger than me. So I knew a lot of the same people from Boston College. And his newest reputation over the years. But I didn't know him until we got started here. Did y'all get together somewhere to just talk for an hour or two early in the process? How did you go about? Not through the hiring process. No. After I took the job, yeah, I reached out to a lot of the veterans. And we had some great conversations. Is this the thing that Matt has convinced you, a scheme, a route, something that he's made you see differently? Kind of what have you learned from him and this? Well, I learned from all our players and coaches. You know, you stop learning. You stop growing. You're done, in my opinion. And then no matter how long I coach, that's just my general philosophy of life. We have conversations all the time. Matt and I, Dave were going. Charles London, I mean, we had really good staff, guys with a lot of diverse backgrounds. And so there's a lot of good ideas out there. And then once we decide to do something, we go with it. But it's got to make sense for us. But that's any player. I'll always hear the guys out. And then ultimately we've got to make a decision. That suits us. That's great. Staying on the topic of Matt, what are some of the indicators that kind of show you that you and Matt are in sync in the way that you need to be to start the season? Well, it's the way we operate a practice. I mean, there's got to be a lot of trust. You put the play call in. It's my job. Obviously, get the call in there clear. Get in there quick so we're not low on the shot clock and then just watching them operate. And you can just tell about the decision-making. You know, the why. The why is big to me and a lot of things when we're talking about plays. Here's why we're doing this. Here's why I called this and those are conversations we have multiple times a day throughout the week. But you could see it in sync just by his decision-making, how he sees the play, how I see it. Because again, it's how I see it. And ultimately, games played by the guys out in the field and it looks a little bit different than it does when you pause the film or you're on a grease board. You don't forget how it's played through a helmet. And so that's kind of, I just measure that. Yes, and going back to this offseason when you all are out looking for or running back to bring in here, what kind of put him on your radar? Again, with a lot of the free agents, there have been coaches on our staff that worked with them before. I think that helps a lot because there's a lot of unknown in free agency. So you better have somebody you trust that's worked with them. So that's the first, it's not everything. And at some point, you got to fill out a roster. I get that, but we have pretty good familiarity with Mike, the person he was, and then the player, you know, you don't have any film that's stylistically. I think the guy's very productive. He's a physical running back. He can protect. He's got pretty good hands coming out of the backfield and all the things that we value, I saw him film with. Justin, what kind of things, what kind of challenges does Gail and Kurtz present? Presidents, a lot of challenges. You know, I see why they like him in Philly. You know, he's well known coming out. You know, he produced in big games. He played at two of the bigger programs in the country and had success at both of them. I know he's highly competitive. He's got a strong arm. He's got courage in the pocket. And, you know, we got to work cut out for him because he can extend plays, but he's got a live arm and he's tough. This is always going to be a big week for unscouted loves. Do you go back at all of what he did in the last, I guess it was three or four games last year or do you just, you know, go online? Well, there's a lot of ways. I mean, yeah, you take into account pairs. Sometimes I said the opener, it feels like a bowl game where you can almost talk yourself out of things. If you just kind of rewatch over and over, you know, you're watching his last year play, you're watching stuff from, you know, what did Nick do here? What did Shane do there? I mean, it's the same thing back and forth. There's a lot of unknown a week one, especially you have two new staffs, but you know, with Jalen, what he's been successful with and they'll have a good plan and they've done a hell of a job. You can see the improvement, the progress, all the things that Nick's been talking about. You can see it and just watching him. I know he didn't play a ton in the preseason, but just, you can feel it. Michael, so what was, you know, coaches, oh, it's Scout Base Bay, everybody coming out, right? What was your scouting report on Jalen when? Well, you know, you peaked the quarterbacks of the draft, you know, we weren't really anticipating taking one high that year, but as a guy, he's a winner. I think it's well noted, you know, it already works. I think that was a reputation, you know, to me, again, I don't know Jalen. I'm just, you know, as a fan watching him and watching guys that are good football players, the guy found a way to win. He found a way to win at Alabama when he, you know, when he was a starter and he had to come in at big moments and then obviously at Oklahoma. So got a ton of respect for him. I feel like I've asked you this question so far every step of the way, just keep going with it. Like, for you, have you given thought about Sunday's going to be when it's like actual first one that counts and sure everyone out? Like, what's that going to be like for you? Well, just my mind said, I mean, I'm not going to get, I try to stay neutral and it's a football game and it's so competitive in the NFL. And I'm sure I'm in a different role, but the ball is kicked. I mean, we got to find every way we can to win this football game. And there's things that we'll lean on and I'm not going to sit here and talk about the game plan strategy, but once the ball is kicked, like there's no sentimental value because it's the first game and we got to do whatever we can to win that football game. You were against against the playing as Matt and Colin. Did you actually play in that one game? The ball game? No, the regular season game, yes. So he came in too. He didn't start that game, I believe. I think it came in the ball game, but it definitely won. The one that counted was the next year when they came to the Chapel Hill, they were ranked and we knocked them off. I've reminded him of that a couple of times. So going kind of off of his questions, to kind of battle the first year coaches between you and Nick, does it give you any, I don't know, feel better going against the coach or doesn't have as much experience as the first year head coach or does it help at all? No, Nick's been around the NFL. He's been, he's a hell of a coach. His players, he talks about fundamentals and it shows up, it's not just lip service, wherever Nick's coached, especially at the wide opposition, you see those guys improve. Got a familiarity from Indy, but obviously it was Frank Reich and Mike Raible head coaches, but both of us were the coordinators. When the ball is kicked, Nick and I aren't playing. So I'm not blocking anybody and then he's not running any routes. So, you know, it's about the players and making sure both teams will be prepared. There's no doubt about it, especially Philly, I got a ton of respect for their staff. Kind of what's your expectation of a learning curve? Because obviously there's going to be a learning curve going into the first game and Matt's talked about even just trying to understand the dialogue between you and play calling. So what do you expect this first game kind of to do? Well, I expected to go very efficient between that nine. You know, I think in a season, obviously it helps. You know, when you get into multiple games, just going back in my history with Ryan, certainly, you know, year two is easier than year one because you've been through a couple of games, but I expected to be efficient. I expected the communication to be pretty clear. Going back and forth in between the series. It's not Matt's first rodeo. So he said, I expected to play well Sunday. Jeff, following up with a couple of other questions. In the preseason, I don't think you were going to ask this. Did it feel different for you out there as a head coach in the preseason? And is there anything that you take from those games as you go into the first game? Yeah, I mean, everything's a learning process. You know, I felt at every game that I was a tight end coach or a coordinator and then obviously the role is a little bit different. Head coach, if you're going to call the plays from the field, you got to have trust, your staff, that people have jobs to do when there's good communication. It certainly felt more natural. You know, the preseason, they're just a different feel to it. Obviously it was the first time going to head coach, but there's just a different, there's nothing like when the regular season starts and then hopefully when you're playing in the playoffs, it's even, you can just feel it. You can feel it, obviously the players are out there, but there's a different intensity level and it definitely felt more comfortable through just our communication or a process from the sideline. And then we've talked about Matt and, you know, not playing in the preseason. Obviously a lot of guys either didn't play or played very little. Do you, what's your comfort level right now in terms of just how in sync the offense is going into game one? Well, you know, just going back to the preseason, I get, there are a lot of different philosophies and a lot of guys that are successful. You know, you go back and look at some of the coach gives his team in the preseason. I don't think that's really what you saw. I don't think you go back, look at our 19 season in Tennessee, you know, how you mix and match certainly wasn't the team that it was in the middle of the season. Different cast of, you know, different cast of characters out there, how the seasons evolve. They take on life's of their own. Like I said, there's guys that, that's the beautiful thing about the NFL and you get in the spot and there's 32 different flavors. I've never thought you carried momentum from the preseason into it. They're just different. And you're seeing less and less game plan plays for teams. That's what I observed in the preseason. You saw everybody's kind of core stuff, guys of different philosophies, but I didn't, other than a few, you know, like a schemed up plays, you saw a couple of highlights for this and that, for this player or that, you saw a lot of basic football with a lot of different guys. So I think they're completely different entities. Certainly if we don't come out and play well, that's an easy narrative to grab on to. But whether we played 70 snaps, we don't play well. Week one, there's an issue no matter what. So we got to continue to improve. No matter how we play Sunday, the objective is you have to improve. Whether you start, we've all been a part of this. Whether you start six and oh, I was a part of a team that started six and two, finished eight and eight, missed the playoffs. Obviously been a part of team two and four. You get better as a season one. We make a run to the AFC Championship game. So I said every season it's a life of zone and we have to improve. We got to be ready to go Sunday. And once Sunday's over, we got to continue to evolve and improve. Hey, Coach, what did you see from Caleb LaGarria to make you say in your mind that, hey, this is gonna be our guy at the right type of position going forward? Well, one thing is he wasn't healthy starting out. And we felt that we needed to push Caleb. And really certainly it felt like that's why he played more snaps. You know, he missed it off season and it's not like we were out there calling full metal jacket scrimmage in the spring. But there's a lot of reps individually and really when you can't run, spring you're gonna be a little farther behind. And so he worked really hard and we were able to get him back. Sooner than probably I anticipated. It's a credit to him. And just working in the football shape and then he had to compete for that job. And it's the same thing. We'll make evaluations every week, how he's doing, but he's improved. Feel like he's gotten into football shape and he went out there and won that job. Coach, you talk about the roles and everything as far like how have you prepared yourself to be able to go from okay, young couple plays. Now I've got to figure out whether or not I need to call a timeout or a situation to stand on. Yeah, we discuss it almost daily with certain guys on our staff that we go through that. And that was part of the preseason to Jeff to your question. Like those are some of the, again, it's not the pressure of it. You feel a little bit of reason you're playing house money. Didn't really see anybody once I kicked things or getting the four minute, like you maybe would have used the timeouts in a four minute situation. But yeah, those are all factors and could you have to have great communication and trust everybody's got a job to do. And you have to be aware of what's going on in the game. Let's get right to Steve. Yeah, coming in as a new coach and doing a new situation, what were the benefits of you found having a quarterback with Matt's experience and his, I just think he's been here forever. Right, yeah, no, it's, it certainly helps. You're able to put things in probably quicker. You know, had a pretty good educated guess that he could handle most things because he's done a lot of things in this league and that helps when you're putting in an offense. Like I said, if he wasn't where he was in his career then certainly that would have affected whether we needed to play him or not in the preseason. But we got a lot of faith in that and it certainly helps you put in things probably at a quicker pace. No one, he can handle it. He's ultimately the one driving the boat out there, so. And have you given much thought to, I guess the kind of sideline personality you'll have as a coach, or you could be a fiery guy or are you pretty mental? Just gonna do myself a light thing. I mean, that's how I've been as a play caller. You know, certainly there's things that, yeah, you just be yourself. That's the only thing I've ever tried to do. I don't try to emulate anybody. So, I'm not gonna sit there and try to imitate Braves. You know, I'm not gonna sit there and all of a sudden put on a big visor so I'm throwing that around either. So, I'm just gonna be myself. Going back to some previous stuff. You know, given the fact that these are two new staffs, you and Philadelphia, does it feel a little bit like a catch-22 because you don't necessarily know what the Eagles are gonna look like but they don't either with you guys? Yeah, and that's where you have to trust what you've been working on and emphasizing to try not to reinvent for week one. I mean, we plan this whole thing out going in the spring and who we wanna be offensively and what we've been working on and it'll evolve as a season and obviously working your personnel and that even evolves, you know, as you get more familiar with your team and that'll be the same thing in 22. There is unfamiliarity but personality-wise, I think Nick, John Gannon, I mean, they kind of have a feel and I have a feel for both those guys. So, if there's anybody that probably we both walked out and who we're playing week one. Like I said, we were in that division together, Nick and I were in the AFC South and John was in there too, John Gannon. So, they'll have, I mean, I said, it's a real, it's a staff full of really good coaches. It's a really well-built roster. To me, they got two of the better lines in football. I know they've been banged up but that's a really well-built roster in my opinion, especially up front. So, Barbara, is there any nerves for you? I mean, how do you feel this week, first one? I'm not focused, like I said, I try to stay in the present. You obviously plan out what's coming Sunday but it's not like I'm gonna get geeked up today. No, Sunday at one o'clock and I won't be geeked up losing my mind Sunday at one either. But it's just, it's a focus on the day to make sure we prepare, put in the plan and make sure to practice. You try not to overreact and make sure the guys understand the plan and make sure you're ready to go by Sunday. I don't wanna follow up with something again. You mentioned that McGarran came back sooner than you initially thought, is that right at the time? Well, I guess when did you initially talk to him again? Did you get him back by now or was there- Yeah, but the same thing with Calvin, you know? We got more practice out of him that I initially anticipated, which is a bonus for me, both help him get in my football shape. Josh? Clearly, you don't like the schedule. But if you did, would you have eased your offensive line in a little easier than this year? That's a heck of an assumption, saying I don't like the schedule. What did I not like about it? No, I said you don't make the schedule. Oh, I was thinking you didn't like the schedule. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. If you made the schedule, would you ease your offensive line in a little easier or are you just as glad to see this Eagles group to see what you've got on the offensive line and you know right away? You told my terms of who we're playing? Yeah. It's gonna be a challenge every week. That's to discredit theirs. And like I said, that we'll have our challenge not to get to our head but Tampa's got a pretty good defensive line. You know, New York's gonna, all of these guys, it's the NFL, everybody's pretty damn good. It'll be a challenge Washington as well. I mean, so you just focus on this week. I don't anticipate there would ever be an easy game in the NFL and that's been proven year after year. Regardless of how cliche it is any given Sunday that's been proven over and over and over again. It's always a challenge. I apologize, I thought you said I didn't like it. I don't want to get trouble. I didn't want to get trouble with the league. I don't want, you know, Rich McKay's here. So I don't want to get in trouble. Well, not superstitious guy. I mean, it's same preparation. You know, we're kicking off at one o'clock Eastern instead of noon central. I've got a process that I go through in the morning how I like to get ready to go to call a game. Then obviously you're right. There are new responsibilities. Make sure the inactives are in. They're correct. So there's no pressure on that city. But it's getting the whole team ready. Certainly your mind's focused on all of the entire active roster and you can't just be, you know, obviously get myself ready to call a game. But you're also worried about the whole team. Are your people enough to realize if you're asking a right to push the right to call a game, are they excited for you or are they saying anything to you? A little bit, you know, my kids, Tanner's eight, Sophie's six, and then big Liam's almost two. So, you know, Sophie and Tanner, they start to realize a little bit, but they still, it's kind of nice. They're still kids and they're gonna have an innocence to it. It probably helps their last name, Smith. So you make a poor call. Maybe somebody's not yelling something at school. You live a lot, Jeff? Yeah, the first injury report coming out today, then we need to be on alert for that. Oh, you've been waiting for this one. I know. I know. That shouldn't be too much on there. That shouldn't be too much. And then I talked to Tony yesterday, because I was, he said, I want to see if you can carry with it. He think Pitz is gonna be okay, because, you know, the hidden isn't like he used to be, not as much bluffing. And then that Matt knows how to use the tight end. Those are three reasons why he thinks, you know, Pitz is gonna, you know, because the stats are like, hey, Ruth, the tight end is strong. But Jeremy Shocking was last one that kind of get close to a thousand Ken Cleveland. And then you gotta go all the way back to Dick, sir. But Tony says, hey, he thinks he's gonna be fine. Thanks, Tony. And I know Tony and Tony's obviously one of the best ones to ever do it. But again, you know, Tony's a very different player than Kyle. And like I said, Tony's one of the better ones to ever do it. So, you know, Kyle will play multiple roles for us. And then his progress, like I said, it's not to overreact. We gotta win this, find a way to win this football game. He should be a part of it. But again, they do a nice job or, you know, they take him away. We have to find a way to win this game and it's not about just patting stats. So we look like, hey, we got our buck kick, but hey, look at the stats. Look at our draft of stats. We gotta improve, we gotta win. And ultimately by the end of the season, then we'll see where he's at. What kind of impact did he help us win? You know, if he has 70 catches and we lose a bunch of games and blowouts, who cares? It's like being a high volume scorer on a bad basketball team. So again, I'll reserve judgment until the end of this year and hopefully Kyle has a long year. And then nothing Tony said was wrong and I got all the respect from Rover Tony but I don't view Kyle as the same player as Tony Gonzalez. I don't view Kyle Pitts as the same player as Delaney Walker. I don't view him as the same player as Dallas Goddard or Zach Hertz or Travis Kelsey. He's Kyle Pitts. And so we need to bring him along the right way as a rookie. And with Jeff Schultz, I know you don't wanna make this about you, but how much family is gonna be? A lot. I told Mr. Blank and Rich, when they hired me, at least they sold a lot of tickets. And they'll be here someday. They're excited. Yeah, I mean, I think about 40 people come and give or take and 90% of them are my family. So it's hard to get the fortune that, you know, they all got tickets there. They'll be ready to roll. Appreciate it guys. All right, thank y'all. Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you.