 Good health equals freedom. Okay, why am I saying that? Because oftentimes people think, you know, I don't want to work out daily. I don't want to watch my diet. I just want to live my life. I just want to be free. That's a lie. Poor health reduces your options in life. If you want to be sad, you want to have poor mobility, be more likely to be anxious, then sure, don't structure your day around exercise and don't watch what you eat. But if you want the freedom that only good health can provide, then include that structure. Structure will give you more freedom. Where did we hear that first? Discipline equals freedom. I think Jaco does that a lot. Does he? Yeah. Okay, I've heard it in a lot of different arenas. I remember Bishop Barron saying at the talk. Oh, you don't remember who said it first? I don't. We were all together when we heard it. I remember. I know Bishop Barron did a talk when we were in London, but it was more about like spiritual freedom, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But around fitness and health, I don't know, but I mean, I know you guys ran into this as well. How many times people would say they stopped following their workout or diet because they just wanted to quote-unquote enjoy their life or, you know, I just want to be free and eat what I want type of deal. It's like, that's a myth. It's a myth because it comes with its own consequences and limitations. And I can't think of a less free thing than having really bad health, especially when it's preventable. I don't know, I have family members I see with poor health that now are in situations where they don't have the freedom to get up and go play at the park with their kids because they don't have the energy, they can't do it. They don't have the freedom to do certain things because they could die. Yeah, it sets you up for challenges that you don't have the tools to overcome. Like at that point, like life is riddled with challenges. And it's like, if you're just going to sit there and think everything's going right right now, I mean, you could be in that state, but for how long? There's inevitable, you're going to face something that, especially physically, you're going to face something that you need to overcome. I mean, we're at that age now. You guys seen your friends drop off on stuff like this? Are there like specific things that you can recall? Like you guys used to do what they did. And like now just like, oh, no, that's not something. I mean, I see that like my just pick up games in general. Yeah, my best friends and I like one of the, one of our favorite things to do was to snowboard and like that I just, I haven't ridden with them in years. I just have completely like given that up. It's just like, oh, the risk and it's too much work. Well, I, so yeah, I've, you know, because I've been together now and because I've been in fitness for so long. So my family knows I've been doing this for a long time and then my peers in my family, the questions used to be early on, they were like, how do I get Jack? And the questions were, how do I get lean? You know what the questions are now? Yeah, healthy. My back hurts. My knee hurts, dude, can you help me with my ankle or man, I was painting this or I was, you know, taking the garbage out and I totally, and I'll get text like this. Yeah, my blood pressure is too high. Yeah, yeah. Crazy stuff. I had a buddy just reach out to me and he's like, dude, I just, I'm pre-diabetic. Like what can I do? And he's in his, in his 40s. I mean, that brings up a good point. Like the older you get, the, the bigger the difference is between healthy people and not healthy people. So as we get into our, you know, 50s and 60s and 70s, this is going to become a vast chasm between us and other people because we chose, dude, I guess the structure, you know, and I told you guys like, I mean, just a little stupid accident that I had just cutting my fingers like, and just that limiting factor for me, you know, just took out like a hobby of mine I love. And then also like, it makes everything else a little bit more just annoying and it puts me in a state where my mood's affected and that's just a really small little thing. But now you add on something that's like, you know, you're facing some kind of health crisis, you know, like, like, what is that going to do to your, your overall status in terms of like your mental health? I really have like two categories of friends or like involving like the fitness side that either one, they went really hard young. So they were like athletes train super hard or maybe CrossFit or they did like, they trained like that for their teens into 20s and then they've completely fallen off or the people that have just chose never to really care about health and fitness. I feel like I have, and I think the ones that like, it's really hard to convince somebody who's never seen the value in exercise and training, the ones that I'm always trying to help save or I guess get re excited about exercise and training again are the ones that had a passion for it at one time and still have this attachment to what it looks like. I think the relationship with it was much like probably how mine was when I was younger that I felt that I had to do like this crazy workout time and I think one of the biggest things that's helped me as I got older was actually giving myself the freedom to do one exercise as silly as that may sound. I had very much so this all or nothing mentality. That's a waste of time if I can't do it. And even during my years of being a personal trainer, I thought this way, I was either all on or I was off and had these massive swings and because I had a relationship like that, if I still had that attitude here in my 40s, I would probably talk myself out of being in shape a lot of times. I was like, oh man, I can't seem to string three weeks of consistency together. Therefore, fuck it, don't do anything. Whereas now this, you know, the last I'd say five to seven years of my life, I've allowed myself to feel like, you know, I'm just going to do three sets of squats or I'm going to go do some pushups and pull ups. Like I just never thought that way before and I tell you that makes a huge difference. Oh, I just, I still, I work out at UFC fit right now and there's this woman that works out in there and older woman and she trains with, I mean, you could tell she's been working out for a long time. You know, when you see somebody in that age category, you could tell, right? She's been working out for a long time. So I talked with her the other day, you know, I see her every morning and we started, look, it turns out she actually under, she actually knew the show. She was friends with Lane Norton. So we had some things in common, but she was, I think she said 63 and you watch her workout. She's got zero mobility issues. I mean, she's squatting, she's deadlifting. She's overhead pressing. She's moving. She's got more energy than most 20 year olds that I know. And I was watching her workout. I'm like, man, the average 60 something year old that I know in my family is in a different category altogether. They're not in here working out like she, not only can they not do what she does, but they couldn't do a quarter of what she does without injuring themselves. And this woman's been working out for years and years and years. And so all that time, you know, think about that, right? People are like, I don't want to do that too much structure. I want to enjoy my life this, that and the other. You are going to be hit with the reality of lack of or loss of freedom. Now you can't bend over. Now you can't squat or now you don't have the energy to do the things that you want to do. Or now you have to take this medication. So it's this total like twists. It's a really twisted, interesting way that people view exercise and eating. And again, I think it comes from what we always talk about, which is like hating yourself or it's like exercise. Oh, that's a punishment diet. That's restrictive. It's like, no man, if you do it to improve and increase the amount of freedom you have in life and you know, it's through your body that you experience life. So if your body's healthy, your experience is going to be better than if it's unhealthy. That's why this is something that you know, should be a part of everybody's life. Yeah. I mean, since we're talking about this, I mean, I've been thinking about this a lot personally. Like when you guys are evaluating your own personal health and fitness, like what are areas that you're thinking about like right now as far as like, yeah, I need more of this or I need to, I'm working on being better about this or changing this. Like where are you all at on your personal journey? I overdo everything. So this is always, this is always a struggle for me, but I'm much better on mobility than I was before. Now it's at least, it's been at least six weeks where I've been more focused on mobility for my lower body, which where I need it most and I've avoided some of the heavy lower body exercises that I don't want to let go of, but that's going to be a thing for me. It's always mobility because it's not as fun as, you know, beating myself. I mean, I had to like fully commit to where you, like because I feel you on that struggle because that was a big hurdle for me and I had to like just let it go. I'm not ready to do it. You know what I mean? I'm trying. No, I mean, you admit it, at least you admit it. You know what I'm saying? You're being honest. Like it's, and I get it because I remember it was tough like because I identified it as the buff bodybuilder. You know what I'm saying? Like that was who I was, right? So it's like, man, to go the other direction was really tough. What about you? Yeah, I'm somewhat in this hybrid sort of in the middle because I was working a lot on bringing back some athleticism and some of the movement that I was capable of doing and especially the fast twitch stuff and like making sure I could at least like control myself like move fast and control. Like that's all I care. So I'm not like all over the place and you got to a point where it was like kind of embarrassing because you know, when you just, you look back and you're like, man, I used to do so well and I had good form and you know, that was just something I pride myself in. Yeah, yeah. Was slowly kind of losing that just based off of habits and like sitting and, you know, being in traffic and like doing things at the house and I wasn't really as, you know, I didn't have a lot of variety in terms of like movements that I used to do. So I slowly brought that back but really what we've been talking a lot on the show about like just sort of risk reward and like, you know, as we're moving forward like in our maps 40 plus, I think I was really like kind of evaluating that and like even for myself, you know, some of these core lifts and just the impact it's had on me over the years and I've actually lightened the load substantially on like back squats and bench press and like some of the main ones and have, you know, shifted a bit more into the hypertrophy side of the fence and so I'm like, you know, for in terms of like the core less I'm way more hypertrophy focused now and but still incorporating like Olympic rings and then the sled and like a lot more functional elements in there, but that's sort of where I'm at. Have you been doing it for a while? How long is it just or is this probably? Yeah, so some of the more the hypertrophy stuff maybe like the last month and a half it's been a new sort of focus for me and my body feels like I actually gained a little bit of size. Really? Yeah, I swear to God. Yeah, how about you? Today's giveaway is maps performance advanced the new program to enter to win leave a comment below this video on the first 24 hours that we drop it subscribe to the channel and turn on notifications if you win will let you know in the comment section also this month sale maps anywhere and maps hit both 50% off. If you're interested just click on the link at the top of the description below. All right back to the show. So I have this really interesting thing that's happening right now with starting that trezeppetide it's it made me reevaluate some things that I had never really thought about which is really and I don't I don't even know if I so bear with me that I'm like trying to articulate this because I'm still trying to wrap my brain around this that and and I think that it could be linked to my autoimmune issues and that is that I have trained myself for so many decades now to eat to be a bigger version of myself for so long that double me everything everything yeah everything is just I ignore your signals exactly ignore all signals. This is what it takes to be this big and I and I like having this much muscle it's crazy when you do it for soul because I'm the same way you do it for so long it's you don't even realize it my default is still it's just like there's versions of it right is like the clean version of like still a massive amount of food just super clean and then there's the like you know eating out in over consuming calories it's still massive and that's typically and typically I bounce between the two I allow a flexibility in the diet I eat out to have occasional drinks and desserts here and there body fat creeps up a little bit up Taylor back back to my still larger portion yes but the eating clean version is still I mean a lot of a lot of food and a lot of calories and since I started this trezepotide like it's just completely just crushed my appetite and of course the trainer want to be buff guy in my heads doing the math on the oh my god the grams of protein I'm not eating I'm saying like and I'm trying to resist that and I'm trying to like really be open minded to what if I just allow my body to go to where it probably wants to go naturally granted I am using something to help me that way so it's probably gonna accelerate that process but I'm gonna like don't make good choices right right I'm gonna lean into it versus trying to fight it because Katrina was even asking that because she's like why don't you know gonna get your protein like I'm like don't you can't say that to me because you're gonna be missing you know lose bunch of muscle I said it well first of all I think I'm gonna lose a bunch of muscle I said and I just she's triggering the skinny guy I know I know what are you doing because she has motives I know she's always like she likes the big guy right for sure and I like the big guy too but and I don't think I'm gonna and that's why I gotta get on my own head I'm like I gotta be a small guy I'm six foot three two hundred thirty pounds right so even if I lost thirty pounds I'm not a smoke so so anyways I'm I'm I'm heading in this direction and I'm just trying to evaluate how my body feels and then the next goal is kind of stuff that you're talking about just like I really really and I've said this on the show before and I hate talking about it publicly because then I get all the DMs of people asking me where I'm at with it and again this is me talking out loud I haven't fully committed to what I'm gonna do yet but I really want to get back into basketball shape but I know I can't do that until I get my size my body down to like basketball size what I was I was a hundred ninety you know at most two hundred pound athlete like I'm a two hundred thirty pound you know ex-bodybuilder dude now and so there's a huge gap there and so I'm trying to just let this go where I'm eating with you know like when I'm hungry making good choices allowing the scale to drop not worry so you know it's cool about this for people listening you're so growth minded that you're using this and I'm gonna you know I'm gonna kind of little title here to what's happening you're using this as an opportunity for personal growth is what's happening right because you're challenging your old the way you felt about yourself which you probably thought wasn't a problem and now is surfacing that's the part that's interesting to me is that that's how insidious yeah right that's the part that's really interesting me is that if you were to ask me like that's why I thought I was a good candidate for bodybuilding because I had moved past those insecurities right and even like my example of letting it go becoming the mobility guy and going down that path like I was really okay with that it took work I'm not gonna say it was like all easy like cuz that's why I understand the struggle that you have like but I mean I was able to do it I committed to it and I did did good like it became like a really mobile person that I didn't I lacked and it was fully committing to that direction so I really had thought I had completely moved past but what I never had really thought about is like wow maybe what I even thought is my my my default back to eating good is still in such a surplus of what I naturally really want for my body type that I didn't even realize that and so yeah and this has only been triggered by this trezepti because it is it has crushed the appetite so much and let me tell you is it is fucking weird man I'm only on week two right now you know how skeptical I am but and and maybe this has something to do to with I'm so low calorie that I crave really healthy nutrient dense food whole foods to the point and this isn't and Katrina made his comment the other day in the kitchen she's like cuz she was asking how I'm feeling and what I noticed and snatch goes you know what I noticed that's really interesting she goes into 13 years we've been together if I don't feel like cooking you never you never bought get us ordering out and when even when you're on your diet right that you just choose a healthy choice okay we'll get Nick to Greek or you know we'll order in something that's a healthy choice still she goes I've never seen you ask what we're having for dinner and then I tell you I'm just honey I've been I don't want to cook tonight and then you get up and go to the grocery store and go get something and then cook it yourself for us like that's I've never seen that it's very interesting it is yeah it's interesting and it is interesting how so I think the way that you're using this is the way that people can use these peptides is g lp ones successfully in other words if you use this peptide so think of this behavioral hack thank you you Matt there's two scenarios here scenario one or personal one goes on to his appetite or some agglutide and then just eats let's lose weight doesn't really examine and and aim for personal growth during that period I think they'll rebound when they go back off the other other person or second example person does this and then the examine well I had a bad relationship with this or my God I reached for food so much when I was anxious or stressed or depressed or this is what it feels like when eat this way I think if you use it as a tool for that kind of growth then the odds that you're going to be successful post peptide are going to be much higher yeah it's a it's interesting it's in it's very new and you said now with your auto immune because of the quantity of food is less you are you noticing a difference in your yeah I mean it's really good right now I mean it's really good I wonder if you're just stressing your gut from the amount of food that you're 100% what I'm piecing together right now I mean I've been trying to solve this thing for you think my gut issues are really crazy oh yeah that was a dumb question I mean yeah my mind's all repressed like shit they just have an anger in there bro yeah it's almost in my body yeah well what's gonna be what's really interesting too is there you're gonna cry if you go to an epithet it's just a bunch of crying will come out so I'm gonna fucking come out it's gonna be a hot mess yeah I mean it's it's it's interesting right and again I'm just sharing with the audience like and people listening don't go online and try and find a source go to mphormones.com oh yeah hey I'm not even telling anyone to do it yet right like I I'm just the whole point of me doing this because it's not like I'm the person who needs to lose a bunch of weight or like that it was like I'm so I was so curious about the other stuff that everybody was saying yeah like the what the one of the fascinating things about the sport is what it's doing neurologically not what it's like this isn't a fat burner it's like it's not that's not explaining Katrina she's like why would you take this this is not you don't need to lose weight somebody was asking me that yeah like why was Adam do he's not like I'm like he's the perfect person to do it because you know we don't have that perspective exactly none of it's not out there for somebody to really like analyze it you know from that lens and I think that that's gonna bring a different a completely ever conversation we don't like to sell or talk about anything that we haven't necessarily experienced either first-hand or you know multiple times with clients so that's the main reason why so otherwise just yeah I was really I mean because obviously in truth be told truth be told Adam would say and he will if this is 100 that's why I don't be a good thing he'll say that's why I'm even has I mean I know I want to be I want to share as we go through this but I mean we're only two weeks in right now okay so like but what I'm feeling and know even like so yesterday was my shot and day six so right so every seven days I have to take a shot on day six was the first time I even considered eating like a like a snack or like I thought I had ice I've had ice cream this whole time in the freezer right I've left intentionally left candy ice cream things in my house that I could go get if I want to I don't even want to make it easy for myself right to and I haven't had the urge to do even with that and the first time like it had actually kind of crossed my my mind like I could go downstairs and go have that and I'm like still didn't want it but that was the first time and I'm like oh that's interesting that I haven't noticed even the thought of it until right now and this is day six of taking this weird and then the next day I took the shoot yesterday and then of course the game while yeah so hey since we're talking about like you know medical interventions I just read this crazy article on Viagra and Sialis and you would not believe what this article is about so it's not about erections or sexual performance or whatever those drugs are used for but check out the summary of what I'm reading here so Viagra and Sialis so these are PDE five inhibitors they dramatically increase what's called nitric oxide dilates the blood vessels this is why men get a better erection when they're on them but dilating the blood vessels also lowers blood pressure a little bit nitric oxide is good for your blood vessels you know Viagra in fact was initially researched as a blood pressure medication but they saw that lower blood pressure a little bit but you know everybody got boners so here we'll sell it for that instead we'll check this out by product now that Sialis and Viagra have been around for a long time you know what they're finding they're more potent at decreasing all cause mortality than statins or blood pressure drugs in comparison that's my next multivitamin in comparison to statins and blood pressure lowering drugs wow man who took Viagra and Sialis had better all cause mortality and they're happier because the boost in nitric oxide is good for the arteries I used to think that there would be like a bad part of that does is the body going to adapt to taking that on a regular basis there any like like baby aspirin was wasn't that that's different recommended yes different yeah so is there is there potential that this could be considered a thing that people would yes wow yes yes what you're probably going to see because now you see PD-5 inhibitors are getting recommended to men with prostate enlargement where's the where's the Viagra stock at right now ticker ticker ticker but now I wouldn't even I would go with the other ones the longer acting ones like Sialis or whatever but and I think that you're going to start seeing them get recommended to men with you know harder hard what's happening like like all of a sudden now like everybody's like you know the go to is like let's get on hormones yeah let's get Viagra it's healthy what's happening what's happening but I thought that was really had you talking to yourself like you know that's so I thought that was very interesting and I think what you're going to see so athletes have been using yeah you know Viagra and Sialis for a while now because they notice improvements in performance bodybuilders are the first ones to mess with these used to be when I was when I was 17 and 18 years old the gym I used to go in fact the one that you guys used to we did the very first version of maps black right maps aesthetic we've shot in that gym that gym I remember as a 17th year we I'd find pills like on the floor once in a while in the bathroom like Viagra pills yeah I was I'd never connected that as a kid why would there be like boner pills in the lock room and more than once like it was like one time as I see them multiple times improves blood flow there's a stalker at there that's the Eli Lilly they're involved with Sialis okay has gone up hmm just like it's been on Viagra wow look at that there that stock is up rising no but it's very swollen dude talking about mobility I do you have you guys ever just hit your leg on the side of your bed so hard it's a worst God so I'm so annoyed because the sheets go over the bed just enough to where you can't tell like a wood frame or whatever yeah dude so my daughter I'm metal ones of the worst oh bro so I'm putting my daughter to sleep so Jessica tries first no success and my daughter typically goes down easy so for whatever reason I think it's because we messed up the the the bed routine so parents listening right now that's all new parents that's always it bro keep it exactly the same any change okay and what was the change blame yourself immediately to change the change was that both of us went upstairs with her to put her down and I think she saw both of us thought oh it's party time did not want to go down yeah I leave Jessica's having a tough time putting her down we switch off I try to put her down I put her in she starts crying a bunch try to calm her doesn't work I pick her up and I'm like mad I'm holding her and I'm like oh you know a walking bam right into the side of the bed bro so hard but I didn't want to scare the baby so I did one of those you know you're holding it in oh it's so hard it's like swollen right here too she went down eventually did you see that I put in my story a couple days ago there was this guy that did a video where he had it was almost like a little merry-go-round thing that it had all of the the razor scooters on it and so he he put one shin out oh yeah you see that oh why was just like the masochism like no like and then did the other leg after that and I just one time that's happened to me and it was like I almost cried yeah to the most pain to the most annoying pains ever is if you hit your toe on like a post or something yeah are you still on Legos step on Legos that's terrible horrible and then I don't know like so my wife if she sees a pimple on me for whatever reason across the house she's got to come over and squeeze it I hate that it's the word I don't know why it's such it's the most intolerable pain I'm like sitting there and she's like you're being a baby oh stop the worst is because it's like kind of tickles at first because they go all soft and then you're like whoa that was like zero to a hundred that's such a chimp thing to you know what I mean like she's like it is weird that it is weird that women like to do that because I don't know no dudes that are into that no no no you will squeeze it pimple off your wife's come here bro that doesn't work I have two things that I want to bring up one of them one of them I want Doug to share something but first before I did I wanted to share this clip with you guys Jerry sent it over to me I thought was really interesting you know we're working with get dynasty and I just keep finding more and more reasons why to do this and I was like I wanted to show you guys and see what you thought and see if you guys even knew this Doug I sent it over to you can you pull up the pull up the video so that guys can watch it real quick where'd you didn't know so you had to know part one conservatorship conservatorship is whenever somebody leaves a minor child some money whoever is awarded over that child will get the conservatorship to be over their finances you'll get a court liaison and you'll have a judge that will be over it that way that they can oversee how the child's money is being spent and make sure that nothing is being withheld from the child although I do understand that this service has to be in place I did not know that it had to be in place for natural parents see my husband passed away two years ago and he left our son Liam Liam say hi he left him 5% of his life insurance although he thought he was doing the right thing when he passed he didn't have a will at the time so all of the things that we had had to go into probate had to pay thousands of dollars to become the conservator over his account anytime I needed to use the money I had to pay court fees and filing fees and all these other things to be able to use the money so thousands of dollars was wasted to get the conservatorship and hundreds of dollars was wasted every time I needed to use it if my husband would have left the money into a trust this could have all been avoided because the trust would have told us how he wanted it to be taken care of so my name is Nikki and I'm your widowed friend whenever you leave money to a minor please put it in a trust so that way that you don't have to go through what we had to go through have a blessed day that wow how crazy is I did not know a lot of no parent a lot of people don't know this well that's crazy this is one of those things where it's like wealthy people they have family lawyers they have family setups and they take care if you're middle class like a lot of people don't know this if you die and you leave money to your kid even though their mom is still alive it's got to go through pro break and then she has to go and spend thousands of dollars and then every time they need to use it they spend money to try and use the money for the kid whereas if you had a trust it was it's a done deal I didn't know that and obviously yeah obviously we're set up but I did still before that not one of my motivations was hey I needed to worry about if I passed like Katrina wouldn't automatically just get all control isn't it crazy yeah weird yeah it's terrible so so people know we work with a company called dynasty and they are one of the first if not the first company ever to allow people to create a trust online for free because one of the other challenges was if you wanted to make a trust it would cost you hundreds or thousands of dollars with a lawyer so now you got kids your dad mom whatever you want to create a trust got to go to a lawyer spend thousands of dollars to set this up every time we need to change something call the lawyer pay them their hourly fee with dynasty get dynasty.com it's free and it takes I think it took five minutes to set up a trust yeah on there so I know I keep learning more and more about I didn't realize how one how simple your cousins made it and then two how important it is even if you don't have millions and millions of dollars to leave even when by the time you get your first house or your first asset in my opinion like you want to be already thinking and the way they set it up too is you can go on there and add assets and manage it all through them so it's super easy yeah actually saves you money long term the earlier tons tons of money speaking of money I I got to bring this up to you Adam because you love this so I'm in a group tax with my cousins and my brother and my brother sends over this clip of this YouTube influencer like guy who's like you know a day trader okay he's in his 20s day trader he's like this is crazy and it's like a picture of his kid was like Lamborghinis and big house and I'm like no he doesn't he's like yeah he totally talks about how he doesn't like listen if you're making 30 million dollars a year day trading either a you're the worst business person ever to devote hours to making YouTube videos or B your whole business is convincing people you make a lot of money yeah you know so there's a lot of somebody somebody gave me like the the download on that right so familiar with the the day trading circle some of that but to your point this has become like this massive space of all these young 20 year old kids that are selling all these courses online to teach you how to do what they've done and look at my Lamborghini look at my big house like I've done all stuff most of them either rent the house and the Lamborghinis are at least and even if they bought the Lamborghinis I mean you still get a Lamborghini for a few hundred thousand dollars to make you worth tens of millions of dollars typically do with a bunch of other influencers yeah that's the other so that was the other hack that I didn't know about that's like a big thing especially in the L.A. market some of that and with influencers is five five guys go in on it and they all purchase it together they use it for social media yeah they just use it for social media and then they ride it off because it's they're using it for social media so but the other hack or thing that they're doing is I mean to right away that should be like to your point about not only making YouTube is but if you're selling courses if you're selling courses online on how to make money and you're already making tens of million oh why would you waste your time selling you know 500 $900 courses like that go spend more time day trading because that's what you're really good at right my buddy's like oh he just he just wants to help people so case so what these guys do is this make money too because everyone's like I've seen it I've seen his account show the vision so what they do is they get like four or five phones or more I don't know how many they do they get multiple phones and you can sign up for ghost account you can like practice so it's not it's not real money yeah so then what they do is they have like four or five of these phones and then they're they're practicing all these trades and have to hit a few yeah then they hit a few then they share with the internet I'm like oh it's a brilliant freaking hustle looks like yeah so it's like yeah look because because they do that like they prove and it's like yeah it's it's like and you can't tell the difference on the screen from where you're looking at if it's a you know an account that's what I was trying to tell them like they would not devote because making and editing YouTube videos and putting them out there and being influenced yeah we know how long that takes it's work why would he if he's making $30 million a year do the math on how much you think he's making per day day trading why would he waste this time making videos on YouTube it's and then sell these courses when he could just make more money day trading the only reason why this isn't so obvious to people is because we're still in the middle of this transition of old media to new media see on TV all day is like it's not like nobody runs out after they see a commercial on TV and they're like oh dude this guy's where it's like the same hustle and he's paid to do that and it's and farmers put it put it together it's like come on it's like but because we're still we're still in this transitional period of that this is new media and this is how you market this is how you sell these guys are doing this as a tax ride off they're either releasing or they're going five ways into it they're using good and it and it's all fair game because it's marketing and advertising and so everybody's I mean even I was again like man there's a lot of these young kids that are making hell of money like what am I doing wrong like if this kid this 20 year old kid can figure out how to day trade I should be skeptical like the whole like finance and money space and like how to make you like like telling people how to make money like that's like such a like how many can even think of that you would be like yes like a super authentic it's I mean remember when we all first got together I mean Doug knows this because he's been in the you know marketing space for a long time he's just like man if you guys want to make money the biggest way to make money is to sell other teach other people how to make money yeah it's also the easiest way to because it like the proof like that you see the watches you see the cars and like you know you do the math like like that's a million there that's 100,000 it's no different than some some bodybuilder fanatic you're right I know how to train you're right and I know how to it's exactly like oh yeah that's why you have all these Instagram people for that got you know took first place in a bodybuilding show and now they're like professional trainers coaches online making $200,000 a year teaching people how to get ready for a show and they don't know anything really about exercise and nutrition they just know how to diet and take steroids and they did a good job at it and so now they sell everybody all super but I mean that's the easiest to me red flag is just like it's like okay if we were if you here's how you would know mine pump isn't as big of a deal as a mine pump is is if you saw me I have five slots for personal training available for you guys right now I have five slots available for one on one training what the fuck is he doing one on one training if his business is that big you know say like why would I be training people one on one like it just doesn't make no sense you know I'm saying so why would you be selling there's only four left by the way one just thought left up right now just limited space I'm into going out of business business that's that's my favorite but I mean it's the same thing for for that space right if you're a big financial day trader guy and you're making 30 million dollars a year what do you do and selling 599 courses like speaking of you care because you care give it away then if you're really that nice if you're really making a real man give it away they don't you don't care all right speaking of new media this law in Florida that banned social media because now social media companies are going to get find I think 500,000 they're going to get find massively oh that's how they're handled if they fail to to cancel accounts of kids that are the state can do that yeah they can do that yeah they could totally do that I didn't know they had the power to do that they do interesting so they pass this to a resident of Florida and they can if if Facebook doesn't I don't know if they have to be a yes I think they have to be a resident of Florida if they're found not cancelling accounts of of minors this is interesting then they they will get fine this is this is super interesting sound because that it's so weird how a state can impose a law and now a company is responsible because that there might even be a department for Facebook that goes in and checks state by state sure how old are these people that are on there like you'd never even had to do that now you have to do this and also need to build an entire department or the whole section dedicated that so you avoid getting sued now now here's a deal so many of their users were kids mm-hmm so I get the the struggle but if they were smart that would have looked at all this and the data and said you know what we need to get ahead of this because because here's what I think Florida pass this bill and guess what most people like it I'm seeing people on social you know Chimoth from the from all in he just did a a tweet on it yeah and he goes I totally support this you're talking about free market people who when it comes to kids I'm the same way like I'm when it comes to children in different categories I'm pro-regulation when you're an adult now I'm definitely very different but when it comes to kids like you know I think it's not a bad thing and social media has been shown to have a terrible effects on children and so and I think it's going to spread that's what I think what did I say so they require Facebook Instagram and Twitter require users to be at least at least 13 years old so they must be collecting information about the age of these kids so from that standpoint they could go do a search delete those again yeah so the other thing I would be curious about is looks like you know is this really difficult to bypass you have to get a vpn what do you mean you could get a vpn then they don't know where you're coming from no I mean like how hard would it be for mice well my son's too young to be an example your son to get on there and click I'm older than 15 yeah because it's going to be something like that right that it's again it's all it's literally it's like if you get onto any side that requires you to be 18 you can but let me put it to you this way you're a parent in Florida yeah okay and look I have teenage kids Justin does too and people like just parent your kids more and I get that but it's hard it's hard it's hard parenting especially 14 year old 15 year old it's very difficult they're not around you all the time so like a toddler you can keep your eye on them all the time so now imagine the state passes a slaw now you can be like hey why do you you don't have why do you have Instagram on your phone you can't have that that's illegal take that off so now you get a little assistance from the state so sure the kid could go just like a kid could go find alcohol exactly but the law makes it a little more challenging okay that's fair that's a good that's a that's a fair point I mean I feel like it's a really easy thing to get around but that's a good point right there even just from from a parenting standpoint of like hey it's not even legal for you to do that yet I don't let you smoke cigarettes I don't let you drink alcohol one day you'll be old enough you'll be able to make those decisions but as long as you live under my roof right now I predict this just not to mention I mean I mean all of the I would I would assume there's been a lot of cases where people of like you like minors have gotten into trouble with like pictures and videos of things used against them that could set them up for just like horrible outcomes long-term it'll affect the way that they have a career the effect the way that they have a relationship with somebody listen and it's it's so unfortunate listen the data is connecting social media used to anxiety depression suicide we're seeing rates and now it's not the only thing okay I'm not stupid I think it's there's inactivity I think that there's a lot of things in the changing landscape that's contributing to this but you are seeing suicide rates anxiety depression rates among kids that we've never seen do never and it's worse when they use a lot of social media and they're finding the relationship is not you know they thought maybe it was two-way relationship well if you're more depressed and more likely use social media know the data is showing using the social media is leading to these things like depression yeah so I think this is gonna spread my prediction is that pretty soon cell phone companies are gonna let you download these apps unless you're a certain age that's what I think oh wow because now that you have a precedent set in Florida lawsuits will start to follow once these companies are like uh oh we're getting sued because imagine if you had a kid who's 14 who committed suicide now you have a case where you could take it to the courts and say they shouldn't have been on the social media you guys allowed this to happen you guys that starts to spread I think this is I think that laws like this are gonna start to take hold interesting yeah I could see that I absolutely I mean I'm forward to it is a huge problem that yeah they're just now sort of really like attacking it I mean I think that this is not a short road to regulating pornography for minors as well I think that's the next step I think that should have been first but yeah I think that's the next step how's it not regulated it's already regulated they don't regulate very well well I mean that's how I feel like that was my that's my point about Facebook that's right I mean that's my point there too though yeah so it's still yeah I think what they'll do and other in some places they've actually been able to you have to register your age with the state and then that's required to get on the site type of deal the way around it is to get a VPN by the way that clip we did on the dangers of pornography is flying so I was on there last night with Katrina so her and I have been happened to be on there and one of the things we were going through like stars right so there's this category we can go in there she's like is that what I think is that be stand for I think I said they had billions of views per video on lots of them and most of them that really brought into perspective to me because we got other videos on YouTube or anything even scratch that what is that tell you the damage that pornography is causing is one of the most undiscussed dangers that's happening it is completely warping and twisting people's minds and it molds the brain and the way that drugs do and it's changing how people are relating to each other and connecting and all of human history never did any single person have that much access to that much novelty of stimulus you could be a Emperor of Rome 2000 years ago you did not have even close to the access of novelty that a 15 year old kid on their iPhone has that is causing some serious problems and nobody's talking about it and that's the nobody's talking about it and how crazy it is was the thing that I think that really triggered that for me do you know what holy you know what's why aliens and somebody report my poor wife got somebody you know you know the one downfall taking something out of context like that everybody's like she's like she's like she's getting all kinds of DM's like like what was it yeah so here's check this out somebody in there posted all the studies that they're finding related to consumption oh I saw that I saw that now what studies show desensitization intolerance so over time frequent exposure leads to desensitization where individuals require increasingly extreme or novel stimuli to experience arousal this can cause big problems there's also rewiring of neural pathways the is reward system leading to changes in neural pathways associated with pleasure and arousal that's what drugs do negative impact on intimacy they're finding that excessive pornography use has been linked to relationship to satisfaction intimacy issues and decreased sexual satisfaction and distorted views on sexuality and social isolation withdrawal that's what the data shows on that I think there's I think that's going to be next on the horizon wow yeah wow I know you know talking about kids and stuff like that the other thing I wanted to bring up was when when Doug and I went took off on our little trip that you guys didn't get to come to that's so cute he was sharing with me about this was it like a retreat that Brie got to do where he had I don't know if you guys knew how to do this get her like write a letter to yeah you did tell me yeah so you wrote a letter and then she read it so many days in so what happened is they went on a three-day retreat the kids didn't take their phones which is such a great idea there and parents all parents wrote letters to the kids about you know how much they love them you know their hopes and dreams whatever they wanted to say what whatever was on their heart and so I wrote a letter her mom wrote a letter her grandparents wrote letters friends wrote letters and so during this retreat they chose one letter from each parent so not both parents one parent to read in front of everybody so there's like 50 55 people and these letters were very heartfelt and there was apparently like kids were crying it was such an emotional experience see that you know yeah and then then they went into a room and everybody had a packet with all their letters it was in a big shape of a heart and they went and got their packet and they'd read their letters and apparently it was just a time for kids to really talk about their situations their relationships with their parents you know and a lot of them came to these really interesting realization so when they came back we all met the students when they came in they had no idea we're going to be there right then they didn't know you were getting you the kids didn't know the letters were even coming they didn't know about the letters they didn't know we're going to be there after the retreat was over so we were all there waiting for them they came in of course they're all excited to see us and then the kids had an opportunity to get in front of everybody and share oh my God what the kids I I swear every one of these was so so heart-felt these kids like kids were crying I mean even these did you hold it together did you hold it together not no and Brianna went up there I didn't hold it the course cause yeah I'm starting to get teary I just thinking about it but these kids like like I realize I was basically a little shit I didn't respect you as parents and I know how much you've done for me I mean these are some of these kids were saying wow and then there's kids like well my my dad passed away you know it's just like oh my God this thing was just tearing everybody up but these kids they had license after being there for three days to really express themselves and not have fear of judgment from their their peers yeah and boy I mean it opened them up in such ways because they're teenagers right and there's so many pressures in school to be a certain way and then you're in this environment where everybody's just really able to open themselves up and to be honest and to be vulnerable and I just saw like these kids transformations were amazing I could tell that and for Briana it was fantastic too I mean she came back and she's just been like such a I mean she's always a joy but like I've really noticed I felt like she leveled up in her maturity after that so I mean I would suggest any school doing something like that would be a fantastic and great yeah wow well that sounds powerful you know the two times when you're most influential over the your child's brain and how it wires is when they're like babies and toddlers and then when they're adolescent teenagers like the two most impactful times you can really I just I think too this is an area that were we're missing in educating our kids so bad like that's a private school obviously yeah and this was this was one of the things like when Katrina and I first got together it was like the big debate between her and I about you know when we put our son in private school and I was so hard about them for this exact example I don't think this is shared enough these types of things that get funded and get they can do and how important those are into the development of kids like that's I mean you want get to watch it and it was transformative for every freaking kid that was in there like imagine if all of our schools were doing things like that I just I really wish we would move to something different with the way and make schools competitive to where you everyone was leveling up like that coming up with things that were transformative for kids and that were impacting and parents were going oh my god well my school did this oh my god this school did that and they were competing with each other to provide the best education system for them instead of this government funded bullshit all we care about is they show up and they pass these generic tests and we push them through school it's like it's so terrible man and it starts with our kids and you hear stuff like that I mean it's unbelievable that she got the opportunity you got the opportunity to do that but it's also highlights the rest of the people are missing out on massive deficit there huge yeah huge man I mean I have friends that have their kids go to their public schools but what they've done is they've gotten really involved with the other parents you got to be if you're if you if the kids are involved if they're in public then you got to be and I have my best friend and his wife are both public school teachers and of course they defend you know and I get it if that's what you do and by the way this is not me saying that there's not incredible public school teachers but the system itself is broken and terrible and it doesn't mean that there's not great teachers in there and I can only imagine those great teachers that teach a public schools have they had the resources and the ability it just doesn't make sense to me that a phenomenal impactful teacher makes right around the same amount as one that has been shipped around to different schools because they've had terrible performance and complaints and that's what tends to happen it makes no sense to me I think if you're that impactful and that good you should get paid more and they should learn from you and if you're a school and you're doing great you should get more funding and other schools that would do a shit job should should either change or go out of business it's really top it's really top down though and that's like that's something that the school puts together right like of course great teachers show up and do it but they're part of a very well thought out system somebody has somebody the top goes this is so important at this stage of their lives we're going to do this we're going to we're going to make the parents do this thing where I mean they literally like I take some organization to do that and buy and to get everybody to do that and then look at the outcome of that so nice incredible man speaking of kids as you guys try organifies the immunity powder I just took mine home today so I have no I have a delicious over the you they're they're they're scientists or whatever they use to formulate because it's organic it's good ingredients that are those artificial sweeteners they crushed flavor they make the best you know because you can always taste out of the park every time artificial sweeteners the the synthetic ones are you know they just taste better than monk fruit and stevia I mean you know that's just the fact but they've got the best tasting non artificially sweetened stuff go find anyway well I mean isn't that like you've taught I mean I you know me I'm always like it has to taste good isn't that like especially for your kids well I mean you drink this I don't care it's for adults too man I mean like it's I mean I know you have the ability to swallow any pill or take any powders that we deal but a majority of people if it's awful it's really hard it's already hard enough to be consistent with taking bearable like it's and Organifi did a really good job of not only having quality products that are organic but then in addition I like that they're going for the like they're they're now coming up with products for kids which is pretty good we're the ingredients in that specifically Doug let me see if I can find that oh yeah I got orange and asterola cherry asterolite astragalus is how you pronounce astragalus astragalus elderberry propolis yeah these are all immune boosting for for children and for adults so spending government stuff you want to hear some fun some fun facts about this these expensive bills that they pass let us know where the money's going yay so the one point two trillion dollar spending bill by the way this is what they do they'll put this bill through massive you only have a bunch of little you have like two days to read it nobody reads it they push it through because if you don't you don't love people or whatever yeah but what they do is they squeeze in money and favors for their friends and they name at something yeah okay so like for example eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars went for a gay senior citizen home in Massachusetts I don't know that there were gay senior citizen homes but okay all right fifteen million dollars went for Egyptian college Tuition's okay four hundred thousand dollars for a group that helps teens hide their gender and then five hundred thousand dollars for an antiracist nature appreciation group at the San Diego zoo that's my favorite one ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha to move. Let's let's name it something you can't even say that. Yeah, so it's that's great. It kills me. All right. Do we have a shout out for the day? What? Literally, I was actually, we did the podcast one the other day. That was my halfway through that. That was really good. What was the other one? We already, I gave the one on the octopus one, right? You guys already did that one. I feel like I had another one. I can't remember. You know, I might have one here. Give me a second here. Aren't you reading or pretending to read right now? No, I am reading, actually, but I already said the book. So there was a, let me see. There's this influencer. Here we go. So she talks about parenting. She has an exceptional job communicating. Her name is destiny and so destiny with an I dot and on Instagram about 60 something thousand followers. Really good information for parenting. So if you're a parent, you got little ones and you want some good info. Go check that out. Look, you're not what you eat. 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There was a book that was a great marketing ploy and it was like a blood type diet and the theory was, you know, type O, for example, which is the universal donor, the original blood type, right? So they eat more chicken, less red meat. No, no, no, I think it was that they evolved from hunter-gatherer. So the diet should be more hunter-gatherer type A came later. So some dairy is okay and some grains are okay type B. And it was really just an invented theory that sounds cool because it sounds like it has some science. But there's zero, zero data to support. And the data to support how it's been effective for the people it is, is that the same data there supports that anybody that starts tracking or doing anything sees results. So what you, what you see, my roommate who was a chef, smart guy too, right, like he had these books. And I remember he, I mean, he knew I was obviously the fitness guy. So he was just like, you got to read this, bro. It's blowing my mind. And I've been following this diet and I feel so good and this and that. And it's like, no, it's because you're following a diet. Yeah. So it's like, because you're actually paying attention to what you eat. And like that in itself is the, is showing you the results. It has nothing to do with that. You're a type, whatever, and you're eating, you're eating more of this and less of that. Did you know that in Japan for a while, they were, they were looking, they would, you look at your blood type in job interviews. Maybe Doug can look this, can look this up. But I believe this was a trend because this was like a theory that, and again, it hasn't been proven in any way, shape or form that your blood type has anything to do with. Now, now blood type is associated with like some, I have a higher instance of certain types of diseases and others can be more protective against things like malaria and stuff like that. But when it comes to diet and exercise, there's, there's nothing. There's more, I think there's more correlation going on with where, what region your family came from than, than your blood type. So if you came from a certain region, it's more likely that would say. Yeah. Blood type personality theory is another one. Many people in Japan and Korea have been discriminated against because of their blood type. I'd love to know what their theory says. Like, what do they say about the different blood types? Do you guys know what your blood types are by the way? I don't know. Yeah, I don't really know. Really? To be honest. Yeah. I'm, oh, I know that because I give blood and they call me. Is it O plus and negative or both? Both are universal. Yeah. So, huh, interesting. Yeah. There's no, there's no data to support anything in relation to diet or, or exercise. Next question is from SLF 2021. If you don't have access to heavier weights to have constant progression of overload to build muscle, would increasing the time under tension with a lighter weight still develop gains? Or is the overload realistically the most optimum or only way? Yes. To a point, right? What was the episode that we did? What do we title that one? We're different ways to, nine ways to progressively overload. I think it was something like that. So I think that's important that you understand that. Like that's a good episode to go. Yeah. Cause you could add reps, add weight. You could increase your range of motion and you could slow down the reps was the ones that I remember or that I use the most. But to a point for sure. Now, if you get to the point where one rep is taking you 30 seconds. Well, now you've turned that set into an endurance type of strength training. But I mean, most people don't do a four second negative. And that's hypertrophy. Like that's muscle building. So most people, you just take a four second negative or a five second negative and they have to drop the weight by a good 20% just to be able to complete the desired number of reps. Changing the exercise is also a way to progressively overload, right? If you do, you know, bilateral squatting all the time and then switching to Bulgarian split squats, watch what happens. I mean, you're going to completely develop or stability was a component of that too. Like if you never trained in a sort of, you know, Ender range or end range strength, you know, because it's that's something too. Like, I mean, you don't want to, obviously it's like a whole other exercise because, you know, your, your, your body's not used to that. Um, it's not familiar. It's not providing enough strength for me. Now that I'm older, if I feel stronger, I don't add weight. I slow the rest. I was just going to say, in fact, I'm going to go on a limb and say, unless you're a, uh, an athlete who you're, you're, your sport is to lift more weight, right? So powerlifting or Olympic lifting, then you're probably better off actually using some of the other techniques to progress the road besides always just adding weight to the bar. That's the easy one, right? It's like, Oh, I did this much. So I'm getting stronger. Let's add more weight. But there's a lot of different ways that you can challenge a movement to continually build muscle and get stronger. It doesn't need to be this, you know, No, when I'm doing a set and I'm about, let's say I want to hit 10 reps and I'm at number eight and I like, Oh, I can probably do five more reps. I slow down. I'll pause in the stretch. I'll squeeze a little harder and I'll make it in at rep number 10. That's way better in terms of risk, uh, uh, you know, of injury gives you more longevity. I mean, and that's the thing. It's, I think, uh, people get caught in that just always trying to add more weight and load. And then you're going to hit a plateau. You're going to inevitably just hit that, that max potential in that direction. Whereas if you've filled in and did all these other techniques, you would actually progress even further than you could have. Next question is from Alicia Thresher. You talk a lot about how to speak or approach family about fitness and health, but how do you approach the topic towards your own children who are leading sedentary and then healthy lifestyles? Yeah. So it depends on the age, but of course, ideally the children are born into an environment where this is just the way that the family lives. I think the most impact you can have on your kids is to be the example. And it be a quiet, not like you don't, not pushing it on anybody. It's just, this is not a lot of intensity behind it. You don't even have to say anything about it. You just do it. Kids are around you. And the next thing you know, they pick up on it consistently, just consistently. I think it's becomes more of a challenge. This is very, I can see, you know, I, I definitely have compassion for parents who pick up health and fitness and their kids have already grown up in a different environment and then now they're trying to, you know, influence their, their 11 or 12 year old or 13 year old into doing this because they've, you know, I really, I really like hearing both of you guys talk about this because I think you guys both have really different households. Um, and you obviously both are health and fitness is a priority in both your households, but have very different, like your kids are into different things. Um, and so it's interesting to hear how you both, you know, navigate this. Like I know you, Sal, you have your sons born to like robotics and gaming and things like that. I know your boys are somewhat of that too, but one of the things I've, I've, I've witnessed Justin do is Justin's a very outdoorsy, active person. And I think when I think about like when the time comes where maybe my son is less, like the, the first thing that comes to mind for me is like, I will need to go do more of that stuff. Like, uh, you know, recently I've talked about wanting to get more and back into basketball shape and things like that. And part of that motivation too is that I want to see my son, my, I want my son to see me doing that stuff. And so it's just a part of our life. It's not like me going, Hey, get outside and go play. You know, like dad sits, sits on his phone or gets on the computer. It's like, uh, that's going to be really tough to do versus. Where's dad going? Oh, I'm heading to the park to go play some hoop. You want to come down with me and hang out the park or throw the football. Like, so I think the, the best way to incur, and this to, this, this would be the same too for the challenge that Sal brought up, which is, you know, the hardest, and I've had clients, right? The hardest are for sure, uh, a family that has decided to become a health and fitness family. And they already have nine, 12, 13 year olds. By the way, when you do that, what you don't want to do is just all of a sudden change everything and say nothing to the kid because that's gaslighting them. Uh, what you want to do is you want to sit them down if they're old enough, right? So let's say you have a 13 year old and now you're like, we're going to change things. You sit them down and you say, look, I'm going to be going on this journey to improve my health and fitness. We're going to start eating differently in the house. And I'm going to be exercising regularly and we're going to be doing more outdoor activities. I know it's a big change. It's going to be different. It's going to be kind of an adjustment, but it's something that I really want to do. And it's, it's good for me. And then be consistent with it. What you don't want to do is say it and then not do it because in the kids and be like, I don't believe anything you say, but you got to say something versus when they're born into it, you don't say anything at all. You just live it and you do it in which case they're in it, they're in it without even realizing like, this is how our family. And that's how I thought and feel like Justin's that's such a good job of that with his family. Like almost probably to a fault, he would say, because I know his boys get stir crazy if they're if they're in the house for longer. Well, you've seen us on vacation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a little bit of a challenge there because yeah, we're I have to, I have to get out. I have to do things. I have to move. I have to have activities planned and that kind of thing. But yeah, it's just that's sort of the precedent that was set. But you know, it it's challenging because you don't always want to do that. No, it's the reason why I'm bringing it up is I think you do a really good job of this. And I've watched that and I want to model some of those behaviors. There's been times where we all go to like our truckie place and all of our families are there. And I am definitely the person on vacation. I don't want to do shit. I want room service, put my feet up. I'm on vacation and I watched Justin sometimes get up at nine o'clock in the morning, first thing in the morning and he's packing his family up and they're off to the water or they're off to outdoor fishing or they're doing something. It's like, man, that's I'm sure there's times where you're like, man, I actually just want to sit down and relax with Adam and do nothing, which means the kids could very well default to playing video games on their iPad. And it's like, hey, if I don't want them to do that, what's better than telling them, no, you can't play games on the iPad is, hey, let's go fishing or hey, let's go do that. So, you know, again, this falls back, I think on us the parents to be more proactive in those situations, even when we don't really want to, because we care so much about modeling those behaviors to our kids that we tough. I mean, I think that's part of being a dad. I think that's part of being a parent. It's like, you know, some of that shit is always fun. Yeah. Yeah. Next question is from MitziRTRCT. How to choose between Ashwagandha and Rodeola for stress and why? Great question. Both are known as adaptogens. So both of them improve the body's ability to deal with stress. So which one do you pick? Well, they're both very different. Ashwagandha is more of an inzeolytic when it comes to its effects. In other words, it'll be more relaxing. It'll kind of bring things down a little bit. It's not going to make you hyper or give you more energy. It's just going to kind of bring things down. So if you need, if you're overstressed and you want something that's also going to give you kind of an anti-anxiety effect and go with Ashwagandha, Rodeola has this mild stimulant effect. If you want an adaptogen that's also going to give you some energy and kind of fuel you through workouts or push you a little bit, then go with Rodeola. But you've got to be very honest with the kind of person that you are because if you really need to bring things down, the Rodeola might not be for you. So that's the big, those are the big distinctions between the two of them. I mean, wouldn't you say that is like the, probably the most important is probably how you personally, because I don't, I tend to not feel as good off. It's Rodeola, right? Rodeola, yeah. Rodeola is, and some people love that. Some people take it and they're like, it's amazing. But probably- And they both, here's a funny thing. They both improve athletic performance. They both have been shown to help people build strength and build muscle. Just because you can handle the stress a little bit more appropriately. With both of them, right? But Rodeola, like you took Rodeola before going to bed, you're not going to get good sleep. You took Ashwagandha before bed, you'll get really good sleep. So you got to kind of know what you need more of. The challenge though was sometimes everybody says they need more energy. When in reality, I'm like this, I don't always need things to give me a stimulus effect. In fact, Ashwagandha sometimes makes me have more energy because it brings things down and calms me down. Now I know Organifize Green Juice has Ashwagandha. What has Rodeola out of our partners? Red Juice. Oh, the Red Juice. Organifize Red Juice has Rodeola in there. So I would go Red Juice as a pre-workout in the Green Juice anytime. And you'll have those adaptogens in there perfectly. Look, if you like the show, check out our free burn fat guide or loose fat guide. You can find it at mindpumpfree.com. You can also find all of us on social media. Justin is at Mind Pump Justin on Instagram. I'm at Mind Pump DeStefano and Adam is at Mind Pump Adam.