 So, if you have been using Linux for really any amount of time, you may have encountered several negative aspects of the Linux community. We've talked about one of the big ones before and that's the RTFM guys, right? Everyone who comes into a forum asks this question and then immediately gets a response saying to read the F-ing manual. I've made an entire video about that before and I've talked about it on the podcast so we don't need to reiterate that again, we all know that that is bad in most cases at least and we don't need to talk about it again but there is another trait of the Linux community that really seriously bothers me and this one it feels like it's new but it's been around for a long time and that is the people who come to someone else who's having a problem say well it works on my machine therefore you must be the dumb one. Now obviously we're paraphrasing there but that's the general idea, right? You go to a forum or you go to a Discord server or wherever, you ask for help and you tell them that hey this thing that I'm using is not working and I need help like I seriously I've went to Google I've tried to get it to work on my own or whatever and I can't get it to work and the number one response that you often get and this is from people who are usually quite helpful but in this case they're not what they'll say is that well it works for me. Now usually they don't add on the little addendum saying obviously you're the one doing something wrong but that's what they mean or they mean that well your hardware isn't capable of doing it or they're saying it's a skill issue something along those lines they're being kind of sending when they say that and it drives me absolutely bonkers and one of the reasons why is honestly the same reason why RTFM drives me nuts because it doesn't cost anything just to pass that situation by if you have nothing worthwhile to add to the situation or to the to the problem to the if you have no solution for that person you have it costs nothing just to pass it by it actually costs less because you don't waste your time typing in the thing that you are going to say which is it works for me it drives me absolutely bonkers and I think I think one of the reasons why is because it's so damn condescending right and it's also idiotic because those people who say that obviously don't realize that everyone has a different computer we're not all using the same Chromebook or the same ThinkPad or whatever right we all have different graphics cards and CPUs and different memory configurations and whatever right we all have different slightly different configurations even if we're all using the you know you know modern hardware there's still many different CPUs to choose from even if you're all even if you just look at AMD there are a ton of different CPUs to choose from then you got Intel and you know some people are probably running you know Apple Silicon or whatever like everyone has a different amalgamation of hardware and to say that because something works on your computer therefore it must be good is just asinine it's the stupidest thing ever because okay on your hardware it works congratulations you win the lottery right and that doesn't mean that when it doesn't work for me that I'm the moron right it just means that I'm having some problems and could use some help right otherwise I wouldn't have asked the question right and and I think that we've talked about toxicity in the Linux community many times before on this channel both on the podcast and me personally in videos and it's types of things like this right it's the it's the types of things like this that really turn a lot of new users away but it also turns a lot of seasoned Linux users away from asking for help as well because if all I'm going to get when I ask a question is to learn that it works for you and therefore I must be the moron then why did I bother wasting my time asking right I might as well move on to whatever else is an alternative to whatever I was searching for so just an example of this if you watch my last video on nix I showed in that video I've been dabbling with hyperland now I know that video confused some people because Matt like a week and a half before that you said you're going to protest ex organ tell they pride it out of your cold dead fingers I'm still taking that position but the way I feel about protests is that I have to understand the thing that I'm protesting so I've been dabbling in hyperland trying to get it to work and see if it's any better and all that stuff because I despite all my naysaying against Wayland I still know that it is coming for us whether we like it or not so some preparation in that direction is probably a good thing at least some understanding is so I've been trying to get hyperland up and running and in traditional Wayland fashion I failed mostly I got further this time than I have ever before which is you know not really all saying that much because if you can't get all the way to a working system a partially working system does you know good but that's beside the point but because I'm in a Linux community and I know a lot of people who are in the Linux community and I have a fantastic discord server that is most often very good at helping people in fact I would say they're extraordinary not only helping me but basically everybody in the community that joins right we everybody kind of pulls together and tries to help when they can and I you know asked for help with hyperland and the first thing from one of the people that I know and they have conversed with many times with their first thing well as well it works for me now I don't think that they were I don't think there was any malicious intent in that phrase and in fact I don't think that when people say this there is malicious intent it does come across as condescending but they don't mean anything bad about whereas with the RTFM folks you can tell that those people are just assholes the people who say it works for me I don't think they're being that way on purpose it's just something that just say when and I think actually just to be fair I think that I've said it in the past but I almost immediately when I say this is somebody else well you know it works for me I also think well you know well just because it works for me it doesn't mean that it's going to work for you you know I try to at least be open minded about it and try to say well how can we kind of narrow down why your system is different than mine maybe we can figure out what the problem is but the thing is is that when I faced that situation right I was immediately turned away from doing anything else on hyperland I went I switched the environment variable off again and went back to Q-tah because I was just done for the day I obviously wasn't gonna get any help and and well I don't here's the thing I when I say I obviously wasn't gonna help therefore I'm you know just gonna quit it feels entitled to say that right like I knew my brain like I'm entitled to somebody's help I'm entitled to somebody's you know time and effort into helping me in my situations right it sounds very entitled and maybe it is a little bit but I don't I don't expect people to help me but when I go out seeking help if I'm not going to if you're not going to help me just pass it by that doesn't like it doesn't bother me at all really whatsoever it in fact many people pass all the questions on a form by right because either you don't know the answer or you have nothing constructive to say right a lot of people most that's the way most people are but there are some people who just have to put in something to feel like they're contributing maybe and sometimes that comes across is super condescending and not at all helpful that I think that's the bottom line I mean I can whatever I put up with with annoying people all the time both in the Linux community outside of it right you can't work with people and not come across annoying people all the time so it's just it's just kind of the way life is I can ignore that part I can ignore the condescending part but the part that I don't get is the waste of time right if you you you took the effort to say well it works for me you took that time and effort when you could you use those three seconds to do something literally anything else and you could have kept me from getting my hopes up of having the help right you know it's just one of those things that really truly bothers me about the Linux community and while I don't think like I said I don't think it's as malicious as you know the RTFM guys I don't feel that way it does still put a negative spin on the Linux community which I love so much because for the most part the Linux community is a fantastic group of people right the vast majority of people that I've met in the Linux community and you know whether it's the even in Arch Linux or Ubuntu or whatever the vast majority of people are not only very friendly but they're also very helpful the amount of time and effort people volunteer to help others in this community is just astonishing and I always try when I know what I'm doing and can help others I try to give that back by helping other people in forums and on my discord and in comments and stuff like I did a video on racing i3 probably two and a half years ago or so it's a horrendous video you guys can tell I'm an utter noob at making videos but it's one of my top videos of all time and to this day I still get questions on that video about how to do things well when I have a chance I'll go help those people right if I see the comment and I know the answer I'll go ask them or I'll go help them I should say I'm not going to go deliberately leave a comment and say well it works for me therefore you know whatever that would be stupid right I would be further along just to ignore that comment and just carry on with my day it would save me time and it would save the person asking the question the pain of seeing a notification they're saying oh I might have gotten some help from this guy who thinks he knows what he's doing and then only to see the comment is while it works for me yeah anyways I haven't done a good old-fashioned ranting quite a while so this one felt good I don't think that there's anything really more to say about this other than don't be that guy right don't be the it works for me guy I don't care that it works for you if it doesn't work for me working for you does me no good because it still doesn't work for me I'm no further along and while that seems selfish and it doesn't seem empathetic because I'm you know I should care that it works for you I should be happy for you I'm also happy for you in the sarcastic sense as well because it doesn't work for me right so that's it for this video if you have any thoughts on this video on this whole situation you can leave a thumbs up on this video I'd really appreciate it really does help the channel really does help these videos to do that so I think it's very much for doing that you can follow me on massive honor odyssey those links will be in the video description you can support me on patreon at patreon.com slash linuxcast you can also head on over to the merch store where you'll find hats t-shirts hoodies there's a desk mat which I actually have one ordered it's 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