 Things are heating up as they debate Volcano versus Dante's Peak. Cool it, Adam. This is barely a debate. Dante's Peak is far and away better. Whatever you say, Tony. Let's fire up another episode of Movie Feuds. These puns are horrible. Yeah. After Independence Day was a smashing success, Hollywood started to mimic the formula of having multiple storylines built around a disaster story. Volcano brings the heat here with plenty of star power on display. These puns need to stop, and this round is an easy win for Dante's Peak. I have 007 and Sarah Connor. You have Anne H. Best known for her role as annoying female actress in such films as everything she's ever been in. And if you're from Fresno County, you might remember her as the half-naked woman who showed up on a three-day bender at your house and told you she was God ready to take you on a spaceship. That really happened. Dr. Amy Barnes may not be everyone's cup of tea. Anyone's. But Tommy Lee Jones' Mike Rourke delivers treating the volcano like it's a fugitive of the law. I'll give you that. No one is better at aggressively telling people to do their jobs. Let's also not forget his adorable daughter, Kelly, played by Gabby Hoffman. Let's absolutely forget her. She's terrible. I swear the script had an eight-year-old in mind, but here she looks like she's 15 and she's clutching onto a teddy bear and calling for her daddy every five minutes. It's weird. Volcano also stars Keith David and Don Cheadle sporting a mean flat cap. Your film has two leads and a bunch of throwaway extras. Hey, Elizabeth Hoffman walked through a lake of acid to save her family. She sees the reason they almost all died to begin with because of her foolish stubbornness. And she ends up getting finished off by the volcano anyways. Speaking of volcanoes, it's ironic that your movie's called that seeing how there's a grand total of zero volcanoes in the film. It should have been called incredibly slow-moving lava. Side note, a guy jumps into lava in this and like sinks and melts right away. Lava's actually pretty dense. You would actually kind of just like float on top of it and burn alive before you sunk and melt it into it. So that's just a weird lava fact I know. At least volcano has lava in it. Dante's peak stopped somewhere between it's a mountain and the eruption. If I wanted to watch a bunch of smoke and ash, I'd just hang out in my grandpa's basement. He's got problems, Tony. He's got real problems. I think the real star of Dante's peak is roughly in his amazing leap of faith. We do love dogs in our disaster films, don't we? It's probably why Volcano has multiple dog savings. The movie knows what the audience craves. Sure, we can handle a couple of firefighters burning alive in their own vehicle that much we can stomach, but I will be damned if I let a puppy die on the films that I watch. I know I was screaming hot dog when he survived. Oh God, he's got me doing it now. Dante's Peak is a simple straightforward story that's both exciting and believable. It was heavily inspired by the Mount St. Hel interruption that happened in the 80s. Harry Dalton arrives at essentially the town from Joll's, complete with an inept mayor, to check out the dormant volcano. After some recently troubling activities such as teenagers boiling in a nearby hot spring and the drinking water being just a little bit better than Flint's, Dalton calls an emergency meeting to evacuate the town. Naturally, there's a fair amount of pushback, but it's too late. Dante doesn't wait for people to agree on things. I do want to give the movie a little bit of credit here. Volcano's releasing gas that kills plant life and small animals is a thing that happens. They can also turn water acidic, though not as fast as they do in this movie. Fortunately, a good amount of residents make it out in time, including Dalton and his new best friend Rachel. Harry should have never wasted his time on a chick with kids though, because he soon realizes hers are absolute trash. They took the truck up to Grandma's place to bring her down the mountain. Now it's a race to the starting line to save the kids and then it's a race to the finish to once again get out alive. Tony, as different as both of these movies are, they obviously have one defining thing in common. The volcano, right? The shitty children, yes. Do you think Dante's peak has garbage kids? Kelly Rourke says, hold my bear. She's put in harm's way multiple times in this picture and these situations are always super avoidable. You realize you're defending this movie, right? This isn't the Schindler's list of disaster films. We're talking about a story where there's an active volcano hidden underneath the tar pits of downtown LA. We see lots of gloriously dumb death scenes. My favorite featuring a man throwing another to safety while slowly sinking like the T-1000 into lava. The ash falls on people like light, fluffy snow. And this movie starts up way quicker than Dante's puke. Dr. Amy Barnes tried to warn the city that something was stirring underneath the tunnels of LA. A tinderbox of magma is brewing and the only place for this river of hell to go is up. In order to avoid the death of potentially tens of thousands of people Mike devises a foolproof plan to blow shit up and reroute the lava into the Pacific. On top of the action is a layer of heart with a message of acceptance. Different walks of life working together to stop an imminent threat. It's honestly embarrassing. Doesn't that one guy call that cop a good man because he stopped being racist for a few minutes? Yeah, they tried Tony. Just not very hard. Also, at least there is some effort put into the human element instead of being a glorified GMC commercial. I should have added those trucks into the cast section of our debate. These things can go off-road through anything. Boulders, trees, lava, you name it. There's even a scene dedicated to the GMC's underwater capabilities. Thankfully Dalton had the DLC underwater expansion pack or there's no way that GMC would have made it across the river. At least it looks good. Volcanoes aged worse than my Aunt Tabby. How old is Tabby? 55, but she was mauled by a cougar. Let's talk more about how ugly volcano is. 1997's volcano is not going to turn any heads when it comes to the special effects. None of it, however, is insultingly bad. And if that's not a glowing recommendation to watch the thing, I don't know what you're looking for. Most of it is. Why is the slow motion so awful? Tommy Lee Jones carries his 32-year-old daughter to the top of his truck so he can do the dumbest looking jump ever recorded on film. She apparently burned her legs so bad she can't use any other part of her body. Yet we see her a few hours later walking around fine with a burn on her face. You know what you need to do is move past this character. We know she's dumb. It's been established. She essentially did a freaky Friday with a three-year-old. The thing on her cheek, the discoloration, potentially was a juice box mishap. I'll give you this. Dante's leak has some incredible looking puffs of smoke, like the world's biggest chimney throwing a fit. Just would have been nice if they sprinkled a little lava into this volcano. Hey, there was some lava in Dante's peak. Pierce Brosnan even drove his Wonder Truck over it. Come to think of it, the lava probably would have melted the tires and ignited the gas tank and killed them all. Where were we? Oh, right. Cinematography. The cinematography in Dante's peak looks years ahead of volcano. The kicker, they came out the same year. The asset lake sequence is chilling with some very atmospheric visuals. Yeah, that was certainly something. I really enjoyed when they sang Row Row Row Your Boat for 25 minutes straight. Felt like an eternity. My only hang-up with the entire film is they didn't end with a gripping rendition of 99 bottles of beer on the wall. Nothing I love more than watching people sing terrible songs off-key. That's fun. This is sarcasm. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Dante's peak was nominated for Best Special Effects that year. Nominated. But what movie won again? Titanic, I think. Exactly. Ignoring whatever point you're trying to make, the CGI in Dante's peak is top notch, and the score by John Frizzle and James Newton Howard is just as powerful. Lost awards aside, volcano put in the work here. 10 different effects teams were tasked just to get the lava flow right in the picture, and an 80% life-size replica of Wilshire Boulevard was constructed becoming one of the largest ever created in the United States. James Newton Howard also worked on the score at volcano along with another master composer, Alan Sylvester. So a lot of talent and hard work went into making something bad. Noted. The last 30 minutes of Dante's peak is Linda Hamilton and Pierce Brosnan meandering through rubble. Basically pitch black. Volcano ends with Tommy Lee Jones full bore sprinting into a chain of explosions and collapsing buildings. In choppy slow motion, to save his adult child from her own stupidity. Let's move on. Whenever I have a guest on to debate in movie feuds, I let them have dibs on which movie they'd prefer to defend, and in this case, I definitely drew the short end of the stick. And the YouTube community clearly saw that, giving volcano only 33% of the votes, which makes Dante's peak the winner at 67%. Tony, T-Bone, T-Money, it was a pleasure to have you on the show. Thank you, Adam. Great to be on a channel of this magma... num. I tried to do magma and magnum and it didn't work. 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