 So thank you again last last panel today So if somebody interesting it's that I know the people down there are on the way in the back also There are some people and I Want to warm welcome our panelists today, so please guys if you can go Go up here. I think we have we will talking about use cases and how Open-stake or you know open whatever around open-stake it's Good tool for use cases, right? That's what that's what you know about I just sit next to you Thanks So today we have Jonathan Brice CEO of Open-stake Foundation We have Mark sorry Baker from Caminical Joseph Sandoval Well known person in in San Francisco in Cloudera and Mark Rappaport from Juniper Great and we will talk about use cases so With clouds first question is really an easy one What is your favorite use case for Open-stake? I start from Jonathan and My favorite use case for open-stack. It's a good question There are a lot of different Variety of use cases my favorite right now is probably the raspberry pie Kubernetes conference instrumentation I don't know it's awesome because there are so many different ways that people are using it from Traditional workloads at enterprises To some really interesting things that are that are Pushing the envelope on what people think is possible One from the recent summit that I think had a pretty big impact was AT&T came and spoke about their Open-stack rollout AT&T is the largest integrated carrier telecom company in the world and They talked about how since the iPhone launched Traffic on their network has increased 150,000% in less than eight years and and that basically brings their business model They've operated under for for decades and so they have to totally change you know what what they are doing and how How they manage the network and they have open-stack deployed in 74 data centers of production and they have millions of their customers On their mobile network that are running on top of infrastructure power by open-stack I think that's that's a pretty awesome use case Certainly not one that when we were launching open-stack back in 2010 I would say certainly not one that we saw on the horizon at the time I'll lead off with that one Sure, so I think I mean my primary use case is is probably the use cases are Where it's easiest to demonstrate open-stack is adding real value So and they're always very clear that open-stack is saving money or delivering things faster And even though it's not particularly exciting You know, I may have mentioned this in this talk this morning, but the lamp stack right the typical kind of web infrastructure stuff It's very clear kind of case use case clear value case Where open-stack can enable you to provide very kind of flexible agile infrastructure and scale up scale out scale back again Very quickly and easily and the value demonstrated to the business is very very clear So even though lamps been around for forever it seems Running those type of workloads on an open-stack environment I think it can be very compelling Yes, so for myself, I come from a very, you know, from the enterprise that's been my experience running large data centers And you know, as kind of mentioned earlier by Mark, you know, I really look at, you know, it's not just doing technology for technology So I really like enterprise use cases where you really are tackling some of the business systems Especially right now we're seeing the applications becoming more cloudified And it's great to see that, you know, you have these applications now that you can scale You can grow horizontally before we had to really think very vertical And now that we're able to kind of present these kind of design patterns into the enterprise And actually change our business and seeing that impact And being able to, you know, realize like great capex savings And being able to really have your teams, you know, automate things and you have recoverability Those are the use cases I really love to see to know that You know, because of the cloud that you're able to provide an infrastructure that you truly can rely on And really help you to grow and scale Okay, I will second-track along the telco cloud use case And I'm a big Palestineite background coming from a telco service provider I'm really impressed by AT&T core project Where they plan to re-push the envelope by deploying open stack across thousands Tens of thousands of sites, not just the large data centers obviously But every single small CO, basically any small site that is hosting a base station Or any endpoint telco equipment That's going to power the next generation of telco use cases Like being able to support machine to machine, you know, IoT type of capabilities Run some kind of workload really close to the end user I heard a lot of interesting work and that's qualifying You know, because what's cloud application now? What's cloud-made application work? What's cloud-made application work? That's also really, you know, difficult Now, there's some cloud-made defundation For example, there are some use cases where application are out-of-fine But what's mean? Basically, what we see open stack are used for whatever Big clouds like AT&T we mentioned And also we have open stack, our partnership open stack was very high over there So it's huge variety of use cases We cover the most, the biggest and also the smallest variety in the scale By the cloud-fine, it's something, you know, we I personally know many companies, enterprises, telcos, banks And customers like that And they still rely on really old technologies, 15, 10, 15 years old You know, do things same like me, that the cloud-fine The application that know how to do it How to not just, it's not about build clouds right now Exactly, because today we've seen 10 ways how to build open stack from 8 From 30 seconds to 30 minutes, right? So there is no problem to build infrastructure But move your application into this Do you think that this is, you know, really sooner or sooner Than in some years Well, this is the, this is the Some breakthrough in this area Like Kubernetes, for example It's much more easier right now AlexD, much more easier, you know It's again, it's something between container itself And virtual machine I know everybody knows virtual machine thanks to VMware But do you think that this is, you know Be even faster You see how the market goes faster in that way And the know-how in the planet Because if the know-how is still just In communities like this But do you think that it will expand them Do you see an expansion of this know-how Through everybody else You know, storage guys Networking guys, you know All of these enterprise kind of, you know Divisions or, you know, IT guys I can go first You know, I definitely see that You know, when I listen to what you're saying You know, the one thing that really stand out to me There's definitely a rapid change Of technology change I think me and Lackey were just sitting there a minute ago And I'm showing Lackey, hey look First you get a current old platform coming out Which is just like tip of the spear More than just that I look at it just in my experience Of what I've seen, you know, happening And whether it was through the public cloud journey Or through OpenStack journey You're seeing that it's actually more A transformation of like people, process And the culture of now how you're adopting These technologies And that's what I see is like If I look back at this journey with like OpenStack You know, Fumara was in the past to now Now that I'm able to kind of really apply And see how it changed the culture of our business And how it enabled us And it's interesting And because of that It's pressuring these technologies to move forward Because we want to go faster When I speak to my CEO And he looks at all these technologies And the things that were changing His thing is like His ROI is like Are we moving our software faster? Are we getting better quality? And so there's pressure But in Austin The one thing I think you really brought out That I thought was very well done was that One more people collaborating It's going to be pushing that ball forward We're going to see continued iterations happening So that's really what I'm seeing From my landscape What I see in the Tank Award Is that there is this tension Created without This virtualized network function That comes from the traditional Tank Award And there is a huge pressure To try to move the ones that are generating The most impact slash revenue On the Tank Award network Like a virtualized packet core Virtualized IMS At the same time These applications are most of them today Are really not cloud native They are very Very legacy In all sense In terms of expectation From the hardware redundancy State synchronization And that definitely creates some tensions And friction In terms of the capability of these telcos To deploy and accelerate The deployment of these network functions So one key factor Is going to be either the rewriting of this application Using cloud native framework That might take some time Or that might also Be pretty costly So I expect that the next wave Of application deployment Will be more like for brand new use cases Sure, so I guess genetics is a concern Is that you're either evolving Or you're dying And the same is I think true for many businesses That may need to continually be evolving And evaluating how they're bringing Products, goods and services Or whatever to market Sending comparison to their competitors But change is hard And so in the genetics world We all have compelling reasons To evolve and reproduce Businesses, especially if they're sat on As currently successful business model Is not always quite so clear But business models crumble very quickly So I think that It is changing We are seeing enterprises understanding That how they need to evolve And how they need to accelerate What they're doing with technology Whether they're doing it quickly or not To be had So no doubt that most of the people in this room Looking at CILCD Can do integration And doing stuff with Jenkins Or running from Trump And sort of living on the edge Most businesses aren't there yet But I think most businesses understand That they need to be more agile Or flexible Whether it's open stack Or whether it's containers Or combinations of both Absolutely necessary If you don't want to die Especially in the technology industry Where technology cycles Get shorter and shorter And if you are in the industry You constantly have to be learning And reskilling yourself But I think that What we are seeing Is not just about cloud It's actually a bigger trend That includes cloud And also with open stack And some of these other technologies Like Kubernetes And OpenShift They represent a shift In how technology is also produced And consumed Which is another big piece Of what's happening right now You go back 15 years Which is Not that long With the span of human history But in the technology industry Things have changed dramatically And how technology is produced Whether or not you can use it or not We have been on this tour Of a number of different open stack days And we've talked with organizations Of all kinds From government entities And academic institutions And enterprises And most of them have gotten to the point Where open source Is something that they view on par With commercial offerings Not always, but most of the time So I think that is putting us Into a situation Where we're starting to see a generational shift And that's what it takes for things To really speed up dramatically We saw that in the late 90s In the early 2000s With the internet, the world wide web And things like the lamp stack and Linux And I think that we're right on the edge Of that happening For the next 10 or 15 or 20 years With cloud technology With a different development model And also with open source That is being viewed as really a primary way That people get technology You know, they collaborate together And it's not just on DQ little projects It's on critical systems The more that people collaborate The more work we get done The more money we make And the more lives we save And everything is It's an awesome way To use technology And to build it together I think that's the point Everybody almost You mentioned culture change There's no problem But there's a challenge in people To move forward It's a really good idea And one of the keynotes at Austin Was really good That this is a cloud native world And developers and enterprises See the market And they see small companies Agile and quick And they change product And they are customized And because I talked with these enterprises Those banks Traditional IT It's absolutely different People need some more care And that's what I mentioned Because open source For example, for everyone here And today you can want a free ticket So there's For example, the certification Where people From outside Get some knowledge That's the culture change we need More and more these days And more and more Hackathons and everything around And that's That's the commitment to change That's how we proceed forward And I see it because we started A few years back And we local Like years One year just using local state We don't contribute We don't talk with anybody That we have enough information Enough know-how To just ask at a list But in the end where we start I realized That we should do it from first minute Just ask And the open state Because the community solution is so welcoming That it's so easy to start You just need the first link That's the step And you're inside That's the biggest challenge Just first step Events that we do And we're going to do about 30 different open stack days All over the world this year And they're so important because they give people An opportunity to see the community And to meet different people From around the world That are part of the community And to be able to take that first step And that is always the hardest thing With technology We were just in Israel A couple of days ago And has anyone ever ridden a camel? So When you get on a camel They're knelt down on the ground And then they get up And it's pretty dramatic It's a very sharp angle And so starting the camel ride Is difficult And it's unbalanced But then once you're up there It's fine And it's a great ride And that's sometimes how it is Especially it's difficult to get started There's a big ramp up But then once you get in It's awesome to be part of it That's a great tip Camel example I just want to ask Joe Because I know he boasts the whole team From the beginning What's the challenge? You face the company The company should be agile enough Anyway What do you find out What did you obtain? It was an iterative journey The one thing we had to realize Is that we always had this saying When we were tackling OpenSec Because it was a broad scope Of what we were trying to get accomplished And on top of it We're running a business Our focus is not Because we're operations It's B2B Very challenging And what it really put brush on us Is that there was some prerequisites Where do you start It started with a lot of our automation Like how good we could get with that Really started allowing us to be able To really think of our infrastructure As code And we had to go through some Evolutions with it We had to start with the understanding That we had to guarantee That when we did bring something up We wanted to get to production workloads There was some decision making That we had to think We needed things that were really rock solid Stable These were things we were going to base our business off of Those are things I would really encourage When you start taking this journey Is to think about those parts of the components So that you have a really good experience But it started moving us forward Because then we started looking at It wasn't so much infrastructure But it's like Can we enable our developers to consume this infrastructure So it really started making us think About the toolings around it Like how can we really make things self serviceable So that they can easily just Get to open set It's a cloud, it's a provider And provide a really good kind of journey for them So those are the ones that I would say That were really core for us to be successful with it It also was like we talked about Like bringing on the people that Could really understand What was going to be needed for them To kind of like, we no longer would just Siloed in our network stores And all these other environments That these are all converged now So we had very strong expertise In these different areas But over time a lot of us were able to Once we started looking at things As infrastructure as code We were able to start really allowing others And extending these things So that we really were able to kind of Manage our infrastructure at scale Without increasing the operational Headcounts of our team So that's the stuff on that journey That now when I look back It changed how we look And what we consider to be done Is infrastructure You stand something up And then you say, alright We've accomplished something But we, because of demo How we looked at what our infrastructure was We realized that we needed things To kind of roll forward I think it was outlined earlier today In one of the talks We were showing some of the day two challenge That became what we knew we could consume And safely be able to update our software Be able to recover and prove it out That's when we knew that That was something Just Mike and others I mean certainly When we're engaging with customers on site We definitely see that the silo Is being a big problem So between network storage and compute Often we see There's a pilot going great Until the VMware team in an organization Wakes up and starts asking Difficult questions Like what's this other hypervisor Stuff going on And we need to get over that And engage those teams together And make them join the responsible For the success of the project And get people through that Initial inertia The other one is security Working in the telcos space I'm sure Marvel will appreciate it Security teams We think we've got a good story Around security and over stack And then we go meet the security team Whoever it is And they re-educate us completely And there's a lot to be How we're going to fix this But it's only within the organization And then as that pulls out Into the upper stack community Then we can get through it As long as they're not seen as Inmovable barriers to deploy the technology Then we can succeed And did you mean that The attitude in the solution I wasn't using them as a specific example They have very stringent Security requirements for sure But a lot of that feedback Is completely about it They're cloud control services And bits and pieces That's all good stuff So it's things that we need to appreciate They're not any different federal worst Than any other telco in that respect They all have very high bar As far as security is required I'm glad that the audience Started asking questions itself So we're doing more questions At the point No hands No one About cloud There's no questions I think that these today's sessions Must be great to know Because all the information are answered already So I have one other question And that's the future What do you want to see In the future What do you want to see in the cloud Make all the workloads And use the cloud as a universal Safe place For all applications Because Right now we're talking about use cases Nice use cases we like We're talking about How to push the know-how To administrations at the Industrial level And silos and everything But we don't talk about developers yet And that's another question itself No, we're talking that Ops Do the ops That's an ops view Operation point of view We're talking about We're able to build whatever we want But how developers can react If you have an experience about But I think that's How this will be Again, it's curious about How developers will react If you change all the Infrastructure They VMware VMs They always run And they build some One silo VM or two silo VM And they Absolutely I think Mark mentioned This is crucial for cloud native application Build continuously And What about the developers? That's my question Well, I think Based out of San Francisco In my last journey The one thing that I had was that Public cloud is used very often There's a lot of developers who get it So that's a tough challenge They're going to press you on The private cloud Does it equal the same feature sense And I have to really re-focus them back on This is the core things of what we're trying to solve We want to automate the provisioning Of compute storage network We want to make these things repeatable Then we had the other side of the house Where a lot of our engineers Had no cloud knowledge So they were comfortable in just going in And pointing and clicking And I'm trying to evangelize to them The need that We can easily Provision and keep re-provisioning And actually set it up so that You don't wake up in the middle of the night Scale up or down I see both sides of it And what I have to realize is that It's a journey that you need to bring Your developers on And you've got to really get And I think all of us know the MVP So we really were targeting What are those quick MVPs Let's help them get up running really quickly With their new service And we know we're not 100% feature-complete About what we're offering internally With our private cloud But that we could solve These business ass That enables them to go quicker And help them to see that Then they start to embrace that methodology So for us that's really what it started from Is that we really had to start providing Those easy onboarding, those tools To get them going, those simple hello worlds That would give them the concept That they could apply them to their project And then we started seeing A really important audience And I think that I think that's really the defining difference Between cloud and virtualization You know virtualization is Usually used as a tool To make an IT team or an ops team More efficient And make the running of systems More efficient versus a way to To really supercharge what Developers can do And in the first few years Of OpenStack We've been very focused on operational Capabilities and the services That create programmable infrastructure You know basically the plumbing Of the internet And of all of our businesses Which I've been in the infrastructure Business for a while And it used to be really boring For people And nobody wanted to really know That lately people Especially the last few years Have cared a lot about that Because ultimately you know You have to change that foundation To you have to have plumbing That works In order to be able to do the things That are really important And so now I think we're at a point Where we have solid services In the core areas And like Monty's talk today Was really all about What services you deploy And how you deploy Keystone How you deploy Nova But it was really about How do you think about Writing applications Whether those are traditional Enterprise applications Or whether those are 12 factor Applications Or whatever it might be IOT And so it's exciting for me To see that we're kind of making That shift And so to delete this event We have a lot of developer resources Online You can go to the openstack.org Website and see videos and content Targeted at application developers We also have a site developer About openstack.org With resources for how to program Against open stack clouds And we just started to Organize a series of application Hackathons for developers Over the next year and 18 months That are going to be happening So it's a great point to bring up And it's definitely something that The community has started to have A much stronger focus on And is a really key part of Where we need to go now And move beyond just the infrastructure services And really talk about Why we're doing all of this So that people can build great applications Faster So I think developers Like to avoid having to ask permission Or ask for approvals For the job And most people agree I think that the world As we look out towards cloud Is going to be very hybrid There will be workloads that sit well On public cloud And removing Ensuring that the developer experience Is going to be very similar Whether it's on public cloud Or on on-premises open stack cloud I think is key here If you have to learn the intricacies Of all these different environments It's going to sort of Limit or stifle some of the ability That people are going to have to do So it being open Really available Easily accessible And having common allies Between the different platforms Is going to be key Because workloads are going to gravitate So where the most efficient platform To run them on That's often times going to be on the stack And other times going to be Azure Or Google or wherever Even the examples you guys just mentioned If anything Because their core assets And competencies is more about Operating a network at scale And sure they had some ventures In trying to build applications That they monetized On top of the network But they haven't been that successful In the past So I think right now There are more on the upside Of the journey Optimizing the streamline Their network Using these cloud technologies And probably more Providing a platform That third party application developers Will use To build this next generation Of machine to machine And IoT application That will arrive on top Of their restrictive network We're just Thank you very much I think this was awesome dog From From beginning to operation We started the use cases To deploy obstacles In the way how to build Successful cloud It's not just about OpenStack It's all about infrastructure Developers, about your users And we repeat that this is about People This is people are always the key And OpenStack and communities Is the neighbor to let Right people do the right job But we have networking party Just after This session So just about two minutes Three minutes So please everyone go down there And start working Because that's the future for everyone And just one last question I ask the audience If there's something wrong One last question from the audience Still no one So I have one For chicken people So what do you think about Bra Just You could be more No chemicals The bear was good Bear was good I've been here 15 years ago And this time it's even been better It's great to meet the people And it's exciting to see OpenStack Coming to Prague I think it's awesome to see Open to grow And there's not too much Open source conferences Of course not international But we have awesome speakers From all over the world That's what I see Again something else about OpenStack It's really global And it's really pushing its borders All around the globe So we can go get all the knowledge So To be honest I arrived last night At the jet lag from San Francisco And I barely managed to wake up this morning To present But I'm counting on tonight And tomorrow before flying back Tomorrow afternoon to have at least We have a chance We have a special cure here in Prague That's the cure for it So thank you very much Awesome speakers, awesome informations Thank you all for the audience And right now You're free So we'll go from here now Right here This is a gift from OpenStack Foundation From to anyone I hope that all these muscats Someone Someone I can throw from it So first will be The free ticket to OpenStack Summit In Barcelona this October And second one That is the drone from Redhead So first I try to Yeah So Step on muscats And it's technology Is it here? No It's bad, again So My name is Sikora And I'm from Czech Republic So congratulations And we're here in Barcelona Thanks for the opportunity Today we heard a lot about the cloud It is very difficult It is to get there And we would like to give a chance To one of you To get closer to the cloud In a very easy way With this drone So hopefully Maybe we will really enjoy it And if I may ask you To make a game Because you've been so successful To draw So please do so So by the way It was good So I hope that they will Get into the cloud Okay, thank you very kindly And enjoy the network And party Do you have a fast note to you? 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