 He would do this pretty often where I would want to pull up my pants, but he would be like no no don't do that I'm like what do you mean Jesse like stop man. I'm trying to pull up my pants. He's like no no Come on like and he would just do his little lap like and then but then that's what that's when he did it right and then I went into the silent prayer and First he pulled out my boxers and then he starts rubbing it and he's like a Why is it getting hard? I'm like Why are you asking this like of course it's gonna get hard if anybody Touches it like come on. It's a it's a penis man Come on and then he would you laugh and then and then he did it right and then I I'm just shocked also But I'm also letting him do it Which is a shameful for me to admit, but I mean I Have jammed. Oh, this is this is this is where I'm getting at it, too. I mean The fact that you're telling us this I Can't imagine how difficult that is So let me give you a quick rundown of the timeline of this because I started like I said on the on the interview I went up on in May 2020 and Briefly the reason I want to bond is because I was like really really depressed. I Like I had a lot of depression Like to the point where like I would self-harm not cut myself, but I Don't even want to get into it. But anyways, um Then I discovered Jesse and what he said first about Forgiving your mother and real men are supposed to be not angry. I was like, oh man. That's I'm angry and I feel like a weak man, you know, like my identity I didn't I didn't really understand my identity. So as a young man So as soon as Jesse opened back up, I went straight, you know to the to the service Live service because I live in South Central and he his bond is like 15 minutes away from where I live So first time I ever go there. I'm like, hey, hello. My name is Samuel Thank you for you know, your message. It really helped me a lot. I forget my parents. I forget my dad I forget my mom and now like my life is I'm growing like I'm letting go of all the old stuff and So I want to thank him and then he also asked me what do you do? I said I have my own auto detailing business and At the time it wasn't named Samuel Mexican Car Wash Boy. It was named SCLA auto detailing Um, so the reason I changed is a Samuel Mexican Car Wash Boy a quick detour of the story Is because he started calling me that because that's what he saved me on his number as so I was like, okay, I'm gonna just run with it. I mean people know me as Samuel Mexican Car Wash Boy It's me. It's my face. I'm the brand cool. I'll run with it So then anyways, that was a little detour Anyways at the end of the service he promised me Hey, you could work on my you could what detail my truck and I say cool man like Man, I'm gonna get to work on Jesse's truck. This is this is nuts right now so So we should exchange numbers and then This is in private like if I don't know if any I assume you guys haven't been to the bonchers But it was like it was in Orlando Where after everybody just talks to Jesse talks amongst one another, you know The the breakdown of the service and I go to him and I like Jesse Another thing that's on me. I was abused when I was a boy and that's really like I Can't I don't know if I could let that go and he's like forgiven. Let go. Just let it go All thoughts or lies past doesn't exist. I'm like, you know what that makes sense. So then I Was like, okay, cool. I I would not pay much attention to the thoughts telling me about that stuff, you know So I was growing I was growing this was in May 2020 and I met Tony and Anthony at the 21 convention in October 2020 because that's when Jesse I don't know where and mind you like to me. I consider myself still like a newbie, you know Like not even a year of knowing just he invites me all expenses paid to 21 studios convention I didn't even know who they were honestly But I went because I was like man I get to represent Jesse like be like Jesse's bodyguard and just a rip like a Ambassador for bond because I was like man. I've been helped so much and Up to this point no weird stuff and also no weird stuff happening at the 21 convention I shared a room with Jesse. It was just Jesse and I in one room and then Nick Gonzalez in the other room right next door and you can I Confirm that Tony because if you remember you picked up remember I remember well, yeah You like you escorted us and and I walked out of the room with Jesse So no weird stuff happened that that that trip at all if anything it got me closer to Jesse because We had like a late night talks like about life and about my insecurities Um Things that you know was like real deep to me and he would share with he would tell me about you know about How to overcome that and I was like cool, man So I left that that trip leave feeling like on cloud nine. So Um fast forward to March early March or late February. I would have to confirm that on my schedule because the way I keep track of The dates is not because I wrote them down and off and here's here's the thing to all the people that want proof I Don't want to remember this stuff. You get me like I didn't want to be like hold on. Let me Jesse You're gonna do this to me. Let me record real quick. Yeah, let's do it. Like that's weird. I Wasn't even thinking that to expose him would be to expose myself like and I wasn't ready for that, but anyways late March early February, whatever I Had just cleaned the bond office because every I got hired in December of 2020 I got Somewhere around that time. I got hired to work at the bond office every single Friday. So I'm at the bond office and up to this point Jesse and I are close we're already, you know, long hugs Hit him telling me he loves me like a son He would call me every night not every night, but every other night check in how it was work How was your business? How are you dealing with life? Oh good? Jesse? Thank you. Thanks for checking in but it wasn't until that day I went over to his his room and It was a Friday night and I remember and This is also to the because someone asked the question of How can you say he put on your pants like? And to that the fans and you made me remember thanks to whoever left that comment because you made me remember Um at this point, I was already working out like consistently because I was like, you know Motivated I was like feeling on top of the world. I was working out consistently trying to make myself stronger So so was Jesse so I would take off my shirt And he would look at my my my body like oh man like and I would do it cuz oh Jesse, let me show you the work. I've been doing look look check this out I'm not proud of that. I probably shouldn't have done that But hey man, whatever and then at one point I will tell him all I'm working on squats And then he's like, oh, let me see your legs So I at first it started with like pulling up, you know my pants like from the from the from the boot up to the leg but then It became oh take off your pants and I was like, okay I'm gonna just pose right here and by the way the whole time the door is locked. So no one saw this stuff So that's what led to the Moment where first happened I had I believe I had taken off my pants and then It was just me sitting like my boxers and Then him kneeling in front of me because I was about oh and he would do this pretty often where I would want to pull up My pants, but he would be like no no don't do that. I'm like what do you mean Jesse? Like stop man. I'm trying to pull up my pants. He's like no no come on like and he would just do his little lap like and then but then that's what that's when he did it right and then I went into the silent prayer and First he pulled out my boxers and then he starts rubbing it and he's like a Why is it getting hard? I'm like Why are you asking this like of course it's gonna get hard if anybody? Touches it like come on. It's a it's a penis man Come on and then he would you laugh and then and then he did it, right? And then I I'm just shocked also, but I'm also letting him do it Which is a shameful for me to admit I mean Samuel this is this is this is where I'm getting at it, too. I mean The fact that you're telling us this I Can't imagine how difficult that is. I truly can't What what is your when you we talked in private? What is your reason to tell this now? I think this is a really important question and we we you answered me when I asked you this Hold on Tony. Let me clock out of my job. I'm gonna. I'm gonna just mute my mic. Okay So boyos, what do you think so far? I'm curious uncle guns and woody. I mean you're getting me. I mean this is you know This is definitely hard to listen to it's very Listen to all right. I'm back Yeah, so like I heard woody say it's hard to listen to man That's the reason why it took me so long to come out and was so shameful about it Is that even after that first happened and I'll answer your question Tony? But I just want to say one more thing even before Like when it first happened I went home and I was like that's it man Like all your all your insecurities of you being a homosexual. They're true now Like this is what you were avoiding and now it's true. So That was so hard to deal with because I never wanted to be that but Somehow I allowed it to happen and that was so hard to admit to myself. So the next day And I got to add this and then I'll answer your question but the next day I had a job and I was there the whole day, right and The whole time I'm thinking about it like God this happened How can you let this happen man? Like what's wrong with you? all of those thoughts inside inside of my mind and I called Jesse in the afternoon after my job and he's like Just let it go. I thought sir lies and I said Jesse. I'm dealing with now Questioning if I'm the homosexual or not and he's like He laughs and he's like that's what Satan told me to and I'm like This guy he's like instead of helping out. He's like making me feel worse about it So then he and then after that he's like just let it go Like, you know, his whole spiel all thoughts are lies all the time So and the the last time that I saw him face to face He came so he came to my house Unannounced after a Friday show or something I think and my mom won't because I still live with my mom. Yeah, that's beta I'm looking to get out But I live in the back. All right. I live in the back. I pay rent. I pay bills. I work all the time. I'm not you know, I'm Not proud of it, but I'm also, you know, whatever anyways, my mom wakes me up. She's like Samuel There's someone there's a black man outside for you I'm like I look at my phone and I noticed that it was Jesse calling me and he left texts I think he just called and left voicemails And then I'm like, I knew exactly who was so I went out there and in hindsight I wish I would have reported his ass Because it would have been like he's on my property, you know, public property. So it would have been like proof for all the Proofers But but anyways He he's like he wanted to cut he like I opened my gate He wanted to walk into my gate and I'm like nah, you're no longer you're not coming in anywhere close to me anymore What do you want? He's like, well, I just wanted to tell you something here Come come in come to my truck. So I went in his truck and I was kind of scared because Jesse He carries a weapon in his car. It's not a firearm, but it is a weapon that could cause a lot of damage So as any like famous man should you know or anybody that's in the public image They should have something to protect them. So they're any man. Honestly, um, so I was scared I was like damn is he about a freaking like off me right now because Of you know, he's scared because that was very irrational for him to come in and come in and come to my house unannounced That's your house before before. Yeah, he had he had so He had come to my house once when I was painting my sister's room And he just came and he like oh, I want to see your word like let me see your work And and I took pride in my work. I took pride in everything I do like as far as jobs go I'm in the cars that I wash everything So I wanted to show him and so he came and then he sat in my my couch Talks for a little bit. He was like, you know, we had a little conversation then and there no weird stuff happened But anyways back to when the last time I saw him He's he's telling me all this feel like look Samuel I know you're like dealing with this and you don't know what to do But I just want to warn you not to tell anybody your business Anything you've been through don't tell anybody because they're just gonna turn on you like they turn on Everybody like if you notice anybody that shares are their vices all that happens to them is that they That they get turned on you know So I'm like look Jesse. I don't know what I'm gonna do I don't know if I'm gonna tell people but all I know is I'm done. I'm done with bond I'm done with you. I want nothing to do with you ever again Don't ever come to my house ever again and I also told him look Jesse. I remember that the day that you They that after the day after the first happened I called you like scared and like confused and you told me that Satan told you that I was gay and After that day, I would just question myself always question myself I never ever questioned Jesse, which is another shameful thing and it goes to the cult personality like the cult psychology That you don't question the person that is causing damage to you you question yourself and You yeah, Jesse says don't put me on a pedestal, but he he Sets it up to where you do put them on a pedestal So anyways what I told him is like look I never questioned you But what I should have asked you I should ask you if you're gay and he's like no no no no no no Before I even said it he said no no no no and then I knew then this guy is gay like he's really he is actually gay But because you know when you ask somebody a question and they're guilty It's not all the time But if they have the answer immediately before you finish what you say That's like a guilty conscience to me How else did he explain that to you what happened? How did he explain that to you when you asked him that question that he's all that he's not are you gay? He just said no no no and he said what I did between what happened between you and I it was just It was a mistake like I've I fell into it like like it was just a mistake is this is this What it was a mistake it wasn't like because he's a homosexual is because it was a mistake for him So then I'm like alright Jesse. I mean, I don't know what else to say. I like wasn't having it anymore I like whatever man, so I Just I was like that's it Jesse no more don't ever show it to my house again. Don't ever call me you and I were Nothing anymore. Don't ever call me your son Don't ever tell me you love me like a son because I understand now you do not love me if you love me you would have never done this stuff and anyways to answer your question and I just wanted to add those things because in like I Don't know. I was just it was a mentor like consciousness or whatever soon consciousness as they call it but uh To answer your question. Why am I doing this? because I Got a warm people I got a warm other young man and a woman too of Of Jesse like he's he's a very very seductive Man, he's clever like a fox He is uh, he's very influential And he is a liar man straight up It was hard for me to admit that you know or like to see that to face that reality for a long time But uh, yeah, ultimately is because he's using the name of Jesus Christ the religion of Jesus Christ and God in like a very evil way and So to offer a little clarity as to what led me to do it that was that's my why But what led me to like come out and and and go on is documentary is because when Patrick Rooney released the articles in November of 2021 I believe yeah, just last year in November 2021 yet He That like shook my whole world. I was like, oh my god now like what I went through is not like a fluke It's not a one-time thing is and I saw what Jesse had like he wanted for me You know and just so just to set the record straight Um, I never had sex with Jesse Never was I never did anything to him. I never saw him naked I never did anything to him ever It was always him coming on to me and I just was like Helpless about it like because from the first time it happened I decided to go back after like a few moments a few days of thinking about it more than they're over in my mind I did I ultimately decided to go back and hey, that's on me. That's my fault. I'll take for responsibility for it But he would he told me I'll never do it again and he would he did it again But by this second time he did it it was like oh again and I let it happen again Man, well, it's like my defense got less and less and and Sin works like that like when you when you do sin It's like a downward spiral. You just can continue committing it committing it and you like What's it called justified in your mind as okay, you like becoming denial of the sin so then Patrick released those It was like a six-month thing between Jesse and I right Something like that. I don't know Let's just say six months. I know that the And I spoke to a friend yesterday that was like amen You got to be more clear when you speak because you open the door to like suspicion of if you're credible if you say like Oh, it might have been this or it might have been that but My defense to that is that I don't have like exact dates. I don't I haven't wrote this down and said This is the date. This is a date You know so anyways Patrick really released those things and then I was like, that's it I can no longer Neglect what I have seen Or what I've experienced and I know now what Jesse has in store for me. It's not good It led me to look at myself how shameful how ashamed I was for letting it happen How much in sin I was it caused me to like read Versus in the Bible of like God A Sane very clearly those Homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God and I was like scared. I was like, oh my god. That's it I'm not gonna You know so um then and Then also It was like I saw Martin Francis Fabian a sensual And other Armand outside of bond protesting And I was like I can't walk up next to those guys and they show me their signs of saying Jesse's a homosexual predator And I look at them in the eye and say Either just look away and act like it never happened or look him in the eye and say no That's not true. Like what kind of man would that make me? So I was like, yeah, nah, man I can't do that. So anyways after that it took me a while it took me like a Month to tell Martin Francis and then I talked to Patrick Rooney And when I talked to Patrick Rooney, he went he that was it for him That was like the last straw because he realized that it was going on now You know in the moment as I'm talking in the past and now recently and then that led to I And that led to more like aggressive Protesting from Martin to where he got served with a with a restraining order. He won a court. He beat it Jesse and James lied in court. There's legal documents to prove it. They lied and said that Martin appeared to have guns that James stated that he once went to a theater with with Martin Francis and James was like scared of him because he said I have a gun like to protect myself and then you got to think about it like James and Jesse They say that they're all pro second amendment all alpha, but why is it? Why is it scary? Why are they trying to build a case against Martin Francis that he's somehow like wacky because he was carrying a gun way long ago in a in a In a theater although it was illegal He was illegally carrying and Martin faced the consequences for that But still like come on man. You can't call yourself a Conservative and if you're like bringing that up, you know and then another thing Jesse said There's a video on this you can go watch it on Martin Francis YouTube Jesse straight up lied said some like Real like lies of Martin and when you think about it Martin Martin has been a die-hard supporter of Jesse for like 30 years long time man like It's not even funny like I've been to the Bond house Martin Francis would buy lunch Would buy clothes for Jesse would do his laundry would vacuum his room. He was like Jesse's right-hand man, so If these things are serious like it's not it's not a joke But anyways, Tony you got anything you said yeah a couple things first I want to I Want to tell everybody that like for Samuel to come out and say this You guys do understand that The repercussions if he was lying would be disastrous with this right now I mean you guys understand that Jesse is not he's not Tony Bruno. He's not Uncle Guns He's not Woody Johnson. He's a major public figure. Okay, and to to say this live right now I mean we we got in depth of course when we talked this week. Yeah There's one thing I do want to ask you now you brought it up to the to Gotta ask you this question. Did Hermes leave Bond? Yes, he left on because of this situation yes, okay Yeah, so Real brief. I don't want to talk too much on a friend, you know that I haven't gotten his permission, but long real brief Mark Ermias asked me hey is One a mutual friend told Ermias after okay after I told him a mutual friend of Ermias and I which also was a bond member at the time who also left after I told him because he automatically believed me um This friend told Ermias right in in the lunch after a service after a Sunday service and Ermias was like what that makes sense. No wonder Sammy was not coming to church anymore So then he called me that night. He was like hey, I need to speak to you and I was like, yeah I'll let I'll so I told him everything everything. I'm telling you guys. I told Ermias um and Everybody anybody that's ever asked on a phone call told him the same stuff um And then after that Ermias was like amen look I don't mind I believe you and then he was like Then after that he made his decision He had to leave but before that he he he went to Jesse and In Jesse's office. He said hey Samuel told me this are these things true and Jesse was like what? Sammy said what? No, let me let me call Sammy up right now so you could come and so we could settle this right now and Ermias was like Okay, Jesse never called me. He didn't get me on the phone and Right then and there Ermias knew yeah something's off with this because he is not willing to have me on the phone on a Three-way conversation and let everything out in life That's something's wrong So then after that Ermias made a decision to leave And I hope if Ermias is watching this or here's this man I hope you know, I didn't share too much and if I do please Correct me on that. Well, I think that somebody like Ermias needs to speak up to because Sitting back and be in silent and you guys are friends, correct? Yeah, yeah, we are but it's it's a personal decision. I'm not good I don't I didn't tell people so they could like join forces with me and like let's bring them down I told him because I feel like it's my duty as a as a man as a Christian man to Tell the truth, especially once they like started clicking like Hey Jesse's using his influence to As a as an evil way like he really is using his influence and The things he says about Jesus Christ in God He's really not about it. So that needs to be exposed like that Like Anthony Johnson. He's exposing the fraud. I agree with that exposing the the the fakeness Especially I think in a spiritual in a spiritual matter like Someone that is a pastor of a church although since these allegations came out or These things came out I'll call them allegations. I guess Um Jesse has stopped calling himself a pastor, you know, he still says oh, this is Church with Jesse Peterson, but he has made it a point to say guys I'm just Jesse. I'm not a pastor um God gave me this um And if you think I'm a pattern if you think I'm above you then something's wrong with you Like guilting the people into following him like and then if you heard that clip So when was the last time because Jesse came on my channel right after Christmas? And I think the last time was either right before that, correct Jesse came on right after Christmas, you said yep not too long after he was sick Maybe a month or so after he was sick Or passed out on the air. Yeah, I remember that. Um So what's your question again? so So the last time was very close to when he came on this channel channel The last time of what with you and him Tony Yeah lost Yeah Last time what the last time that he sorry. I'm a call came in but uh, it's okay The last time that that anything happened with you and him Oh with you with him and I um The last time it happened I'll go to my calendar right now I see we got 25 26 people watching right now. So, uh, I'm just curious of what you guys are thinking in the chat. I see jubin I see he's uh It's made a few comments. Mr. Finn. I wonder if you're still watching Um, this is this is hard to listen to it is I get that but Oh, hello my bad. Yeah now go ahead man. Oh, no, I said november 6 for sure I remember that being the last time it happened and It was the same thing where I'm laying down in the in the couch But now I'm not in the silent prayer now. I'm like watching tv right there and he's Touching me, you know, and I'm just like I'm watching cops on the on the tv like It's man. It's sad honestly to say it but um him just touched me like like Like me just allowing it like oh, this is a normal thing to be happening. I'm just watching cops on the on the tv It's it's uh sick And shameful on my part Primal man I thought he said he didn't remember when any of this happened. He didn't write it down Do you understand you didn't understand what he said? And you look like a complete asshole right now. Just so you know in primal man, what I mean by that is uh I don't have like exact dates So for well, I do have some exact dates because I reference them to days I had detailing jobs because as a business owner, especially if you offer a service You've got to write people in your schedule. Otherwise you might forget So I just write that down. So I I remember those as like rep points of reference I didn't go down and write like after it first happened today jesse did this to me and I felt like this and This is what I think I should do. I didn't I didn't journal it. I didn't take pictures I didn't try to incriminate jesse because I was incriminating myself There you got your answer So you can you and gonzo can laugh about it And look, I don't I don't mind those guys like uh Being skeptics and stuff You know, I really It's it's a time to listen though. You know, yeah, it is I get it There's a time to be a bitch and now ain't the time primal man I don't know. I just I'll just say this that listening to pastor Michael foster has like helped me a lot the past few days and kind of put me in the right track I've been reading the bible um Trying a lot not let this uh First of all, don't tell me to simmer down. You can talk about this to your two of you or sometime. Okay Still there samuel. We love. Yeah. I'm here. I just had to send a text out. Um But uh, yeah, I've been I appreciate pastor michael foster I have Real brief like in texts Um, but I have been listening to like his sermons and his his podcasts and stuff because um Yeah, I just you know, I'd rather listen to what he's already said than like I don't know. I I just feel like it's the right thing to do to like Listen to somebody's content before you kind of talk to him So you can see where you know where they're at and how they can help you um But uh, but yeah, I've been I've been reading the bible and man I'm I'm I'm really um I'm I'm proud of you because I'm not I'm not seeing any anger. You know Yeah, man, uh It's hard to have any anger when I'm ashamed for the things that I let happen, you know, like Even angered to myself like yeah, it's easy to have angered to myself, but And I at Jesse I like I told him I told him multiple times I forgive you Jesse, but that doesn't mean What you think it means he wanted me to like remain close to him. He offered me um A show he and actually the last day I ever went to church, which is super weird And okay, I also say December 31st is when I first confronted Jesse about everything I sat on that same couch. I looked him in the eyes. I said Jesse I need to talk to you I said I read what Patrick had to say now. I realized what you did to me was really evil It showed me that all your all thoughts are lies. Um Speel is all fake because the thoughts that were telling me to get out And and get up and pull up my pants and get out like a man You were telling me ignore all thoughts But was my thoughts were telling me was get out But I ignored him because I was listening to you So you always say look within right look within God is within you do the sign of prayer look within but you made me look without You made me listen to your voice while you did what you had to do to me You know while you would get up stroke it walk away get up do it And uh, and then I told him also like you always say you love me, right? You love me and I told him I realized you do not love me because a man That loves someone would not do that to another man um, and then he just looks at me like this he's like uh Well, I mean, I don't know what to say. I'm sorry and I was like, all right, jesse. Well That's it. I just want to let you know Look, I forgive you because I understand my my role in this. I'm not and I don't And I've struggled with this like I almost put up a post on youtube like hey, I'm one of the victims But it's hard for me to consider myself a victim man like honestly um And I talked about that earlier tonight is about You know can't a man be a victim, you know, but the whole point is is that jesse is not selling cars Okay, he's selling christianity. He fights against homosexuality. He fights against all this stuff He's the biggest proponent of it. He screams at it every day And that's the problem Yeah problem that I see and it takes you know The fact that you came on here and talk are talking about it is kind of blowing my mind. I mean I'm not doing this again. I'm not doing this you you I offered if you wanted to come on I said if it's no big deal Right. You I mean we got our text message You know You want and you said you weren't ready and I accepted that I said that's fine I said, don't worry. You got brothers behind you And and I you were not forced into this. I didn't cohorsh you in doing anything I I you know, but I also feel that it's okay to get your story out If you're willing and you're ready is what's most important if you're ready to do this and talk about it Which you were then that's fine You know and that's important to me. What's important to me. Samuel is you in this whole thing None of this other crap and that's what I tried to convey to other people I was concerned about you That was the biggest the biggest thing Anthony is concerned about you Michael Foster is concerned about you This has nothing to do with jesse and has everything to do with you But I think it it took a it took a lot of guts. It took a lot You you haven't you're it's not like people don't understand It's not like the the company gave you tons of money to talk about this or I paid you to come on here This is of your own free will, you know, this is this is this could have huge legal ramifications And the fact you know that the fact that you would come on here and talk about it Yeah, I'm willing like I said earlier and I'll say this to the camera I'm willing to go under oath all the things that I said in this video could be used against me and I'll Clarify the story if needed with details. It doesn't matter. I'm willing to do it um But I don't think jesse And this is not to goad him into doing a lawsuit because honestly I I've never been in the law system I've never been in the legal system. I never went to jail. I never had to get a lawyer So I'm not like challenging him take me to To to court But all I'm saying is I'm willing to put my right hand on the bible And under oath say these things And looking everybody straight in the eye Yeah, that's tough man. You got a lot of strength bro, and I'm I'm I'll commend you on your On your strength and christianity still it's uh, it's surprising that You're not angry at this point Um, it really is I I got to commend you on that you know Well, like I said, thank you and uh, anthony anthony had me cracking up with the things he was saying like The ways he was imitating the the guys he calls dumb and stuff Hey, I would consider myself like one of those dumb guys that fell for jesse. So Hey, if it could happen to me it could happen to anybody I guess, um But uh, but I appreciate you anthony Um, and pastor michael foster, although I haven't spoken to him on the phone Just through text. He's He's been a lot of help, you know, you guys have been a lot of help the past few days and the reason I decided come on here is because I'm like damn these guys I I also in myself I saw that there needs to be a little clarification because the the documentary was real short You know, some people are like, what the hell? Why would he let that happen? Why now or I see streams where you know and I had asked you that question, you know And I mean to give it a little more context. You were sexually abused as a child Yeah, I mean we got a little bit deeper into this in our phone call too Yeah So But I'll do commend you for coming on here and talking about it. I can't imagine it that it's easy I just can't I can't imagine it's very very brave. I commend you as well, sir Very brave. Thank you. Thank you uncle guns. Appreciate it so, um You know, like I was telling telling you privately and told people in the in the stream tonight This is just the beginning. It's not the end And I think that At this point, I'm just I'm just shaking my head. I have been since we spoke Yeah, man, I sometimes I like This thing is hard, man like the And not to like bring pity upon myself because as a man, you got to go through tough things and You know, shout out to pastor Michael Foster like um, I think god um sets up shame as a way to like as a correct being A design in our souls and I feel a lot of shame for And it's caused me to like really straighten up like a lot um So I'm grateful for that. You know, thank god. Thank jesus christ my my lord and savior. Um That's incredible to me that you can even say that now It just it kind of blows my mind. It really does It gives it gives me faith in faith that you can say that does that make sense? Yeah You know, I like that's why it's important to like fellowship, you know, like and then it's And I love christianity for that and I got a shout out Pastor Michael foster and I got a column pastor out of respect. Um um He's helped me like in the short amount of time but listen to him Set me straight, you know, and I think he would tell me and I might be wrong But he would tell me like What you're feeling is like right that you're feeling that way, you know, like the shame and the guilt Now, I don't know what he might say to like how to overcome it, but oh actually I might have faith in jesus christ That's it. Um Uh But yeah, like I forgot what I was going with that. Um But yeah, I just wanted to give my gratitude to you guys man Well, I appreciate you man. Like I said, it takes a lot to come on and talk about it, you know If if there was if somebody had stuffed your pockets with money or Anything but from what I understand, you know, it's like I told a few people samuels kind of alone right now and We're not going to let him be like that. We're just not going to do it so Appreciate that. Yeah, I was I was at work and Every day I work I I do push-ups every hour. I come on my break. I do like 50 dips or push-ups I'm like really trying to make myself strong, you know, like physically and mentally um So and spiritually most importantly, uh But anyways, I got to get going. Uh joshel elder man. Thank you um Elder man that that that that that last name sounds familiar I don't I don't know if it's I read a book about Biblical manhood by a guy with the last name Elder man, and it was pretty cool. I like the way he put it Um, but it might not be the same guy, but he just reminds me cool Yeah, and well samuels I appreciate your time And um, you know, obviously, you know, you can reach out to me, you know, we've gotten in private So yeah, but um, you you've got an army behind you now and I do appreciate you telling your story um It's nothing that I don't I don't want people to think I'm proud to have you tell that story because I'm not I'm um I'm gonna say it, uh It bothers me It bothers me, but I'm just glad that other people can kind of see what I've been seeing for the past week, you know I think that's important, you know, and as men, you know, if we don't stick by our brothers I think that's important, you know, I really do. I think it's important to to stand by your brothers I'm not going to discount you like a lot of people have. I'm not going to do it Again after hearing your story. I'm just not going to do it. It's not going to happen I appreciate that man. It's it's got me really like thinking about the psychology of someone that comes out with these type of of stories of allegations You know how to do how would I deal with it if someone came to me in the past? I might not even know I guess but now I really gotta like I have like a first-hand experience. I guess so My point is that the psychology is like really, uh It's almost like irrational at sometimes where that's why all these questions are like, well, why would he stay? It doesn't make sense or why would he let him do that? It doesn't make sense Yeah, it doesn't it didn't make sense to me. That's why it was so shameful to like even Tell anybody in the beginning, you know Does everybody everybody watching right now and everybody watching in this in the future Do you do y'all understand now while I say I don't give advice. I give support And I think that's what a lot of people need to do They need to support their friends people that are in trouble people that are in need Support is so much more valuable than advice So have I given you one bit of advice Samuel? Yeah Which was uh Well, well about law maybe yeah about law Which is I appreciate that because I like I said, I I'm I didn't plan Oh, I'm gonna get a lawyer before I do all this. No, I don't have honestly don't have that much money To even do that, you know, I don't even I never thought like I'm a need a lawyer and you know why because I'm not lying like I'm not I'm not in fear of getting sued That's what it truly is So Yeah, but most of my stuff is I got you I got your back. I'm gonna support. Yeah, like the passing days Yeah, the only thing I did say was yeah, you need to get some legal counsel Yeah, I don't know if I'd call that advice versus just a recommendation. Yeah recommendation Or a a thing to think about. Um So, uh, but yeah as far as like no advice you just tell me a text me you text me Every day. Hey, just want to let you know I'm here for you. You got you got brothers behind you You got me behind you're supporting. So absolutely absolutely And when I say that to somebody I mean it, you know So Yeah, I'm available for you 24 seven. I mean Yeah, well, I'm a I'm a Peace out. I gotta get home Uh, it was it was good being out here. Uh, thanks uncle guns and I I read some of the comments. I think joshua Uh, I appreciated man, uh And god bless you god bless you sony and god god bless you all. Peace. All right. Peace. Thanks