 Founder and CEO of Prince Come Media Ltd. and Talanta Institute and award-winning music, video and TV producer, media entrepreneur and philanthropist Mr. Paul Nkoma Karibusan, I hope I've captured everything Thank you, you have but it's not about the singing To the glory of God, one issue is about God's glory We give glory to God in everything As much as we do that, we love honouring our guests as well So we are really honoured by your presence here And I hope I've captured everything Mr. Paul Nkoma Asante, thank you, I'm honored to be here too Okay, okay So I want us because I know you have a great testimony You have a great background Also before we get to what you're doing right now Yes, we want to know maybe before this title there is a story behind Where you came from You tried a number of businesses which failed I'm made to understand that I want you to tell us more about that Yeah, my journey is long My journey is a testimony And these are testimony that also encourages me Because in life we go through ups and downs So even me when at times I'm down I look back to my story and God did this Just like David said God was with me when I killed the bear and the lion To help me kill these golians So even at times when I faced giants I look back at this story I grew up in a village I'll tell it in brief Don't have much time I grew up in a village Deep in the village and finished my school I wasn't sure what I wanted to be But I really used to love kwa So I thought maybe at one point I would be a mechanical engineer Because I really loved kwa And I wanted to do that But I didn't make it to university After school we had a small matatu And I started doing business in the village I am a matatu Matatu was very old It was grounded after one year So then I mean my dad had finished The money he had He had just retired So all his pension money went without matatu So the only thing we were left with is a farm A small farm we have in Ayubasha And I had to go and try if I can do something with this farm And I'm hardworking I went and tried everything I was working for ten hours a day But still I didn't get results there And I thought I don't want to end up like everybody else here in the village I needed to come to Nairobi and look for green avastias So the only way I escaped was to look for a college So I talked to my parents My cousin had gone to a college and did food and beverage And I told them I would want to follow my cousin's footsteps Because we were with him in school Go to the food and beverage company and get a job in a five star hotel Because he had already gotten a job in one year I went to college I wasn't lucky to get a job in a five star hotel I got into a small restaurant in town here I started food and beverage I did food and beverage It's just a glorified name for a waiter You are learning how to be a waiter You know when you hear food and beverage You might think it was just a certificate Six months certificate It was food and beverage sales and service techniques So you learn about food so that you can be able to serve people I became a good waiter I got an internship in a restaurant Not having anything And then after that I reapplied for the job Because I didn't want to go back to the village And I also didn't want to termak so much So I reapplied for a job after internship And I got the job but I was earning $3,000 But most of the time I could lose bills So it's deducted About $2,500 in a month So after I want a bit in the restaurant And again I also thought is this it for my life I looked at my supervisors And I imagined how long it would take me to become a supervisor Or a manager in a hotel And I looked at what they were earning I was like still this is not my dream But at that time I got born again And that's why I love this show It's about God So when I discovered God and praying and believing We were really challenged And we used to go for cashers And praying and fasting So we got to know our calling And to know our destiny So as we were praying one time We were praying in a cashier And God directed me to resign from the restaurant And this is the only source of my income This is the only thing I'm doing in Nairobi And I'm scared to go back to the village And I'm scared to termak But what I was so afraid about came to me After resigning I thought I would get a job now In a five star hotel You know you have failed as a Christian You must be elevated to a five star hotel And I had done some interviews At Panafik, at Windsor So I thought I would get a job in a five star hotel Which I didn't So I come out I went without food in Nairobi And at that time my parents in the village Don't know because I couldn't tell them They would tell me just come back So many people So many young ones even right now Of even giving up Yes there are those even Who are committing suicide And barely have anything Maybe you can just inquire Let me tell you I went without food For days At times I tried even hooking Around globe, around about There was a Maasai market there I had some curios I was given So the time we din our food And the 200 I got from there Is what we used for food So long story short Later I worked in another restaurant For two months I was fired I met my mentor Joguna Who started training me in photography We actually met when I was going for an interview He was my former lecturer in college And how he was doing photography on the side Why don't you come We try photography for the time being As you look for a job And this one brings me to The next question because I want you to know How did you get into the media industry Doing such great success story Because there are a lot of success stories Including that song Did you get into that space Moema How did you get into that space Through Mr. Joguna And I honour him so much I would say it was divine Because at that time we were really praying And believing in God And at that time we were just beginning When people prayed fast It's never in vain So I met Joguna At the stairs he was going up I was coming down Because I didn't make it for the job And I told him I was looking for a job And he was like Why don't you come He was looking for an assistant Just come and try photography for the time being And I didn't have an option So I was like let's do it That same day we started And he I know that's how I learned photography I learned how to do videos And that time I was serving in the church Those days I was serving in the church In the church with our bishop We started working on the Kunanuru Gizani TV What? And when you were doing the Kunanuru You know what you were saying When you were saying So I was saying I was wondering What will you say What will you say Not really behind I worked on it I built a video project What? TBT That TBT is late Angela Chibalonza I worked with Jimmy Gates when we were starting What? I worked with Sarah Kay those days When we were working at a church And so many other musicians At that time And later now people like Eunice Jerry People like Amy Kosgay From the time she was starting Yes you remember So 4 albums for her We can imagine each album was 8 songs We can imagine how many Those are like 30 Those are many songs 8 songs So that was my journey So mimi think jugunao was such It was such a destiny Big breakthrough And now me learning that And later starting now Prince Kamedia And growing to where I wanted to know before So these songs you did While you had started Prince Kamedia The songs were Masi Masika Amy Kosgay You were doing it with Prince Kamedia With Prince Kamedia So later on then How Prince Kamedia came about My nickname then was Prince We were being preached when I learned Our God is a king and we are the sons So I started calling myself Prince And became my nickname So Prince Kamedia Now I understand To become a company So when I was doing this music I became very busy all of a sudden We had an officer at the university At the lower basement So I started getting interns from People could watch my name on TV So they could come looking for internship From universities and colleges And when they came in They could do the job and then I wonder What did they learn in school We trained them fresh Like I'm training them from scratch Then I imagine I haven't gone to any media school What would they learn in school You were training but you had not I had not gone for any formal training So I thought one day I would want to start A media school That really focuses more on practical hands-on skills And that is how the dream for starting Talanta Institute Came about And over the years we have trained Amazing producers People like producers like Sami D Producers like Steve Hunter Steve Hunter produced a Moema video It's still in there when you are with him In my company People like WB There are so many producers who are doing Great music videos today And great TV shows And some running TV media houses And they all came through Talanta Institute And Prince Kamedia training Those are very successful stories That you are getting from me And also I meant to learn That you also nurture talents as well Yes we nurture talents In different areas Both filmmakers Guys we see doing online self We teach digital marketing We train music producers We train people who are now producing amazing music And also talents in performing arts People who are acting TV shows And all that So our main business actually I believe our co-business is nurturing talent Talents when someone can come A young one, a young person just comes to you He has passion No talent Another one can come with talent No passion How do you allow such people For me I believe everybody is talented Tell me that you have to discover your area Because many a times when you think about talent We just think of singing Dancing But did you know People who are behind the scenes Of such a program People who do so many other things Even there are so many talented people Who are in offices But their talent is just They are receiving people and talking to people So I wouldn't say there is anyone Who is not talented Only there are people who may think they are talented in music And they are not talented in that So they just need to discover their line And their lane and stick to that But I believe everybody is talented So when we meet people Because we meet so many people Like the people who came to my company Thinking they are musicians They are the big producers Like when Sami Di came But Sami Di is also a talented musician But he discovered a bigger gift In production Right now he is among the leading producers In the region So there are so many other people And he was driving Our van for years One day I gave him a camera I told him to try to take pictures I looked at him and he was creative He used to look at pictures And I gave him a camera Today Johnny is one of the most amazing Photographers He has a company He has a family but when he came in He just thought me and Jesse had to drive He had done a different course But today he is among the leading photographers So we are also in that area We can discover talent and also guide talent That is also misplaced And we can tell you that you are better in this Maybe you came thinking you are a good TV host There is one guy who came And he wanted to become a TV host I am not thinking talent He could be watching He couldn't But then he discovered He was actually better in editing videos Most of the videos you have seen To the big ghost music videos Both for size 8 He is one who is edited When you see so many videos That came from a big deal He is actually the one who edited those videos But he came thinking he is a TV host We are able to direct his passion To the right place So everybody is talented You only need to know your area Of talent So he is watching you right now And he is very interested in whatever you are seeing We are wondering how do they reach you And how do they connect with you How to connect You can use Facebook Yes, in your Facebook page You can use the Facebook page And they can reach us there We know later We can give them I don't know if it is allowed to give a number But Facebook can be one of the platforms What is the name of the page? The page is Talanta Institute And also Paul Mukoma You can find me there We are also on IG And now on other platforms But you can reach us on those two main platforms So Facebook and Instagram Talanta Institute And Paul Mukoma So if you really are interested In nurturing your talent Just follow him on Instagram And Facebook Thank you so much Paul I know we can talk about a lot That was a conversation Yes, there is a lot to talk about because of time We shall leave it at that If you invite you again we will come back again Oh yes I am always happy to maintain And just encourage Because I was on the verge of giving up And somebody who encouraged me And that's where I am That's why as we speak to people like this Someone can This word can change somebody who is about to give up Or even commit suicide And this can change their direction We need to come and inspire And motivate Thank you so much Paul Mukoma Thank you so much Please reach him on his Facebook account