 I'm Zhang Biyu and most of you know me. I'm the Deputy Director of the Center of Town Studies at SOAS. We are really, really pleased to have one of the most prestigious Indigenous singers in Taiwan with us today and to mark the first event of this academic year. Good job. He just walked in. Otherwise, I don't know where I should point at. Okay, so can we give him a warm welcome and kalao, kalao, guu, guu, galu or hasi wanli. Just a temporary thing. What we are going to proceed this concert is he's going to tell you a story before each song. So even today, he's not totally sure what songs he's going to perform because he said, I'm going to look at what kind of audience. So you guys, you know, show your passion, your passion, your audience to do all. I think before we start the whole concert, I would like to say we are really grateful for not only him, but also his wife, Jacqueline, and also Achen, although he's the manager, but actually he's the translator, I think one of the best buddies and also his agent and the sound engineer, also the thing is really supportive. So this will be a fantastic night. Before we start, I would like you to know why his first albums called Pasir Wanli. Sometimes people call him Pasir Wanli. The reason why was it was something to do with the army's language because that means towards the east. So it's like Pasir is heading towards and Wanli is the east. So this is something that actually is the first album and the group. So I don't really know which one he likes us to call him. So there you go. You should let us know. So without further ado, can we put our hands together and welcome him. Give me some a story and Achen is going to translate these. OK, thank you very much. OK, thank you. Actually it's a panza language instead of an arid. And Pasir Wanli is the third album, not the first. Oh, really? The third. Thank you. I'm so first. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. This is my first time in England. I'm so nervous, but I don't know why. Just like what you see in my family. Yes, I feel like a family, everyone is like my family. Because in my hometown and my village, just like this. Yes, I take the guitar. Today I take the guitar, we sing together. Sing all night, all night. Yes, maybe it goes to a second day. So we can see the sunrise from the pace of faith. So my name is Pasir Wanli. Pasir is the name is. Yes, yes, yes. So I want to make something different music for my people. First, where are you from, Yixing? Zala was actually born and raised in the East area in Taiwan. And we have very high mountains in the middle of Taiwan. Next to it is a coastline facing Pacific Ocean. So when they want to see something else, then mountains, they see Pacific Ocean. So that's the only way they can go out and bring the culture out. Yes. I'm trying my best. I want to speak English, or take it with anybody. But I'm trying to. OK, you're doing fine. The first song is from Disney Open. You see the picture? Yes, that was me. That's my face, but it's like a map. We're mad on it. Yes, the first song is Ratan. Ratan? Yes. So this song is from the UK. Do you know what it's called in English? It's called Teng. Ratan. Yes, it's full of words. Please, show me. Teng. So the song name is Ratan. What else? Yes. So it's kind of a behavior to show his mom and brave. I can bring this home. I can take this. Whenever you want to take this home, whenever you try, you will get at least four in your palm. It's a missed food. In the core section. So if you step more, it means your child is very, very filial and very mature. So if you can take this serious injury and take as much as food hard to get and injure yourself, and you have a bright future. They can take up to 20 kilometers. Yeah. And his mom opened the bag, said, where's the course? You get the young, fresh ones. You get old ones. And the old ones are, in those days, our teachers will use them to beat students. So the story is beyond both. Whenever you're done, you just learn and you'll be better. Yes. Okay. So that's why I need to see the audience and need to analyze the audience so that I can decide which songs are going to be performed tonight. We have four great Chinese women in front. So I think there have to be some kind of a homesick. Okay. It's ageless, it's ageless, isn't it? Okay, so that's like home, right? So the lyrics would come home roughly staying your smiles like a flower blossom in a spring breeze about your over time. I see you in the dream over time. Yes. Carry on. Of course, we'll sing first. I saw you act like the older sister in front of us. But I think we're native speakers. Can you hear me? Stay by me. Yeah, from the beat of the song. Look at that. Hey Joe. Sing this? Yes. But I forgot the lyrics. Don't remember. I'm so sorry. It's okay. Okay, okay. The hey Joe, this song may be for next time. Okay. People from our Manchester. Okay. We're speaking. Okay. So I'm very happy to be here today. I want to talk to you about this song. Our language is similar to Spanish. Our mother tongue, Banzai language is kind of close to Spanish language. Do we have Spanish friends here? Spanish? Oh, yes. He and Ian can speak Spanish. Spanish? Here? No. Ian. In fact, I... Okay. That's good. Never mind. I've been looking for... My name is Bashiwari. I've been looking for a country that is the same as me. So my name, Bashiwari, meaning I'm looking for more friends towards the same. Okay. You can see on the screen that this Polynesia is recorded in Spain. Okay. You can see on the screen that this Polynesia is recorded in Spain. Okay. You can see on the screen that this Polynesia just flew to Madrid when a woman asked my name. The custom officer asked about my name Five times. My name is Chalo. Well, Now I learned about their language. Alec guava. Yes, Spanish guava. They mean come, come on, beauty. Yes. In our language, in the American language, the guava is very stupid. In the Bazaar language, the meaning is come on, beauty girl. Yes, so it's so funny. Yeah, it is. Close, but not exactly. It's insane. So I think their language is very good. At the end, we found in Matacha's house, this part, this part of the figure, one to ten, we are almost six times the same. And we have a friend from Madagascar. He was living in Spain. We sent a lot to Spain to record this album with him. And they found out when they count from one to ten, about six number digits sounds pretty much the same. Yes, but he is in Chawan and Gidema is in Madagascar. Yes, and then I found out a lot of the male and female parts, the male and female parts, one to five, one to ten numbers. One number is completely, completely the same. It's five. Australia. Australia, okay. In Indonesia, countries and all cultures, we have one number that sounds exactly the same as number five. And that's, you can say it. Lima, Lima, Lima, Lima. So you said Maui in New Zealand said Lima? I don't know. Hawaii. But it's almost the same. It's South Pacific. In Africa, we just talked about Madagascar. I got myself a Francisco Lima. Really? Yes. So I think it's very interesting. So I've been looking for many more. In England, I don't know. I don't know if I can find the answer. So you were wondering if you can find anything, anyone with a similar culture in England? It should be yes. Well, the answer is yes. Because we also have yes, yes, yes. Okay. So the language is very, very interesting. So I'm very happy. But in Japan, like in Korea, I couldn't find the same language. I couldn't find anyone from Korea, from Japan. Even in China. Even in China. Yes, it's not there. So this is what I think. Now that I'm alive, I'm going to do more things. I'm going to pick up more languages. And then there's a sentence. Madagascar's name is Salama. And in Madagascar, they say, how are you? Salama. Salama? Yeah. Am I? Am I? Say Salama, I say, come on, be fun. Come have fun. So come have fun. Come have fun. How are you? That can be really good. Yes. So I made this song this year. It's called Salama. Salama. This song is a song I haven't released yet. Yes, it's really easy. Single. This is a song that I'm going to record this year. But it will be in the reference session this year. Then let everyone listen first. Yeah, thank you. Happy first. Alley. Alley, alley. Alley. Okay. Okay. Okay, this song is called Brother-in-law. Brother-in-law? That was Salama. I didn't say it. Is this your name? Salama. I'm going to sing this song now. It's called Brother-in-law. Brother-in-law? The next song is Brother-in-law. Okay, this song is a song I've been learning. Our American people have been helping to build a house. There is a story about Amidstribe. I was learning how to build Amidstribe houses. And the building. Yeah, building. Then I went to study for three years. Oh, it took me three years. Then I finished it. Now you see this album. Okay, to finish this album. It took me three years. This work is very hard. It's hard work. Because the ceiling is very messy. And then I was afraid of heights. But I still had to do that. And the construction site is very messy. And then freight up height. I was always worried that I would fly down like an empty plane. He was afraid that he was flying from high. So I was very careful to learn this work. So carefully studied. So this is what we do in Taiwan. A lot of young people come to Taiwan. The only job they can do is to come to Taiwan. A lot of times the youngster from the East side in Taiwan. That might be their only job they can get. So when they are getting older. They didn't buy. They built these houses. And they couldn't afford the houses they were building. And when this youngster got older. They don't want to live in houses. They built. They want to go back home and rest to die. And then in the process of work. My brother-in-law often is. They are all resting. They don't like to rest. And my brother-in-law. He didn't like to take a rest. When other guys are resting. I said, why don't you rest? Because it's really too hot and too hot. You can really take a rest. I said to him, why not take a rest? He said it's very hot. Some will clear. He replied to me. He was afraid that if he was so old. He wouldn't have built the houses. His brother-in-law said, I'm afraid if I didn't do my job well. People who live here might be in danger. I have to build this house right. Because people rely on their lives. It's my responsibility. It's a sad story, but it's a happy song. You have to be happy whenever you feel pain. Because songs and music will make you happy all the time. It's a sad story, but it's a happy song. Can I just make some announcement? I forgot that actually they have brought some CDs. Beautiful CDs. I have some CDs here. He can sign it for you. He can take photos with it. It's very cheap. I'm not very good at PR. But anyway, if you are interested, there are some here you can buy. Another thing is, I want you to know that actually, Jialao just landed today. So they actually had some problems in immigration. So he didn't really have rest. So you really should really pray for a very good voice. I just wonder, when he's in really top form, I wonder what his voice will be like. Now it's good enough. Maybe next time when you go to Taiwan, you should really go to his concert. Thank you so much, but I don't understand. You can have a racist card. Another one is, sorry, he has got a documentary recently. He's the main character. That's the story about Jialao. Because the construction work and that particular documentary is about this scene around the indigenous peoples with a more low-end job and hard-working life. So I'll just fill you in. Okay. The story moving, right? Yes. Am I right? Yes, yes. I'm trying my best. I will try to speak out my English. Yes. I will learn the English, yes. Actually, I usually speak my own language. So I rarely speak English. He was actually a sound engineer. So sometimes he did this job for people from the United States, from Australia, from England maybe. Yeah. And they had to talk English with him. So he got a chance to practice a lot. But actually he just said he's not very... He doesn't use it very often. No, no, no. He's humble. I'm sorry, I don't understand. Okay. I have to talk things because he needs to tell. No. Okay. I just forgot to mention that this album was almost every lyricist made from the Banzai language, which is not Taiwanese, which is not Chinese, it's Banzai language, which is mother tongue. So I couldn't understand. Music is an interesting thing because it's a language itself. It doesn't need that other language, which is lyrics. Sometimes music moves here without any lyrics. He said this album looks cool. So if you think ten pounds would not be too much, you can have one. It was at the beginning we wanted to invite the musicians we collaborated inside this album. They are in Spain, so it's kind of expensive to fly them over. If they are here, I say, and you can hear the sound of this album. I guarantee you won't hear my guitar. I didn't play guitar in this album. It's the exact. Of course, if you want to see the performance of the whole album, just watch it. Help us promote it. We can come here. Hello. I have a news for them. We actually have a festival in November in Taiwan. I invited them to Taiwan. So you will see. No, not yet. I'm sorry. I hope that I can bring my best group here next time. Okay. You can never have a listen to this album. Don't put yourself too hard. Next song. Thank you. Thank you. Use my power and face to face with everyone. Actually, meeting with everyone is my happiest thing. What did you say? Sing my wings is the happiest thing. So, because of the language, no, the song is about many people, for example, you don't like to do what I tell you, but I just want you to do it in your own way. Sometimes people force other people to do things that they don't like. They are not willing to do. They are forced to do it. Like parents. You don't like war, some people don't like war. But, you know, people who make weapons, they like it. Freedom is the second topic. Husband and wife. Also. Are you sure you want me to say this? Yes. Why not? Husband says it's worse. Don't spend too much money on clothes. And wife says to husbands, come home early. And children said, parents, please don't fight. I think I can understand this. So, many things don't force the child to become a part of our sacrifice. Yeah, just don't force other people to do everything. Don't force the child to become a part of our sacrifice. And don't push your center over other people. Everyone is the same. Everyone is equal. So, many things don't force the child. Take it easy. So short? Okay. I really want to know if you have any questions before you sing. Is there any question about my music or myself? Do you sing today? The building. The soldier. Yes. Hi, sir. Thank you. Do you have a microphone? Great. All right. Thanks for the concert. I was wondering, could you name a couple of records that really influenced you? Because I thought it's so interesting that you were playing Stand By Me here. And is there also some contemporary music that you really dig right now, that you really like? And perhaps what I would be interested in is more like contemporary or western stuff because I thought that reference was so interesting like how it influences his native music. Can you hear it? I can't hear it. He wants to ask what is the influence of western music and popular music? What is the influence of your music and your work? Okay, Beatles. Blue Roux. Blue Chousou. Yeah. Yes. And Ralph Stewart. You know, Roy Stewart. Yeah, and like my kids are all listening. Both are my Chapo songs. Artists. 英國的一些搖滾的歌手 搖滾樂團 其實對我們台灣很多的孩子 自我那年紀開始其實有建設 有很多對搖滾音樂 對音色搖滾的一個喜愛 這是因為美軍的關係 Yes When I was younger in Taiwan We have a lot of Beatles We have a lot of Elvis Presley And Rolling Stones too But a little less For less of them Differple That kind of a hard rock Because in Taiwan In fact Music,流行音樂的部分都比較仰賴很多歐美國家的音樂甚至日本跟韓國 OK This has to go to Korean War To read Korean War American Army was stationed in Taiwan So Taipei has a radio station That's running in the radio station For their soldiers 只要你到台灣 你只要說得出來的英文歌曲 他們全都知道 So the DJs they know everything Basically they were There were Americans 所以你看我們台灣都愛英文歌曲 So that's why we love English songs Welcome to Taiwan Welcome to Taiwan Maybe in November at the festival I appreciate the group 你會說歡迎的 因為我們台灣是很熱情的 我們台灣人民非常熱情 你看他們就知道 Taiwanese people are warm and welcoming So we are always inviting 然後24小時內 不管是白天還是晚上深夜 你一個人走在街上會非常安全 You'll be completely safe Walking down the street 24-7 因為我們台灣的治安是非常好的 Very good Thank you, thanks a lot You're welcome I have actually listened to you on YouTube Really? I think your band is really good Thank you I think that you seem to be with the electric band With much more electric sound Bigger sound You seem to be much more like a rock ballad type of sound And I noticed that although I cannot understand your words The chord structures All the chords and tones If you don't mind me saying Is actually very western The impression you get from the YouTube sound Which I like very much Although I don't think the YouTube always does good service Sometimes it's very interfered You don't get a good sound But through that you can hear a great sound From Paso Ali And I think that what it sounds like you're doing I'm probably wrong Is that in your lyrics You're going back to Hualien And to the local and the tradition of the east And part of Taiwan But that in the melody and the chord structures It seems to me you're adapting that story To a very western sound I mean it's one of the heavy It's a very easy try and listen to it It's a heavy rock ballad sound That these guys get And I would like to hear it Played live with the band I think that would make a big difference I mean you sound great And what I like in your strumming Is a blues rock strumming Usually you use your finger That really hurts I mean you've got to be really accurate I kick the guitar You go bang bang bang That's really hard Yeah that's fine It's good It's easier because it makes the left hand Easier Doing that is really different And that's great I think that's very western I think the tempo and the chords Yeah I think the chords are great And also the way you're using your thumb To hit the guitar to give a bass sound A slapping Yeah a percussion sound It's also something that we do If you hit the bar with your thumb You get a bass sound and you get the chords And that's very 1960s, 1970s, 80s Blues rock Pub You know, pub music Jeff Back did it all the time Jeff Back did it all the time Yeah Very very interesting But anyway I recommend to everybody To listen to Pasawali Thank you so much I love you Not in public, just not in public Why? Do you know why I did this? Well... Sorry Do you know why I did this? He's asking you Do you know why I did this? Well I'll let you tell me He says soul playing is kind of lonely It makes you have a rhythm, a bass And then there are some things added in And it makes me happy He's making the tempo himself The beats and the bass Yeah, in fact, our Amei group Is very very lonely Actually we Amused people Play very simply Like this Music Music Music Thanks, Chainsola Like desert I'll respond to one thing Amei is people Most Indonesian people in Taiwan Their personalities are Tend to be very playful They joke a lot, actually they joke all the time. 刚刚那首歌呢是我们阿美族的一个海岸鸣鸟,也是我表哥一个台帝叫冰狼兄弟,我也是冰狼兄弟的一个台帝字语. It was my cousin's song. Yes, and I was part of their band. Bitter, Bitterna, Bitterna brothers. Not Bitterna? No, I know Bitterna. I know I know Bitterna. 我怕我的英文不准,我讲到另外一个事情。 所以我自己是一个从小听自己的古调,就是古老的歌曲的孩子。 I was going to race with our traditional tunes. 原住民以前是会cut head, in the old days we cut other tribes' heads off. 对,我们叫粗草就是裂人头,我们阿美族他们并不会,唯一是一个在台湾原住民里面是不会裂人头。 We Amis were the only one tribe that we don't do this. 然后刚刚唱的这首歌曲是一个妈妈,她才刚刚生下一个孩子, 那这个孩子还不到一个月, 然后孩子的爸爸就被另外一个比较小勇三丈的一个原住民族裂人头。 The story of this ancient tune, a mother just gave a birth to a less than a month baby, and her young husband was killed in the head and beheaded by other tribes. 然后这个妈妈就在讲说,孩子啊,孩子啊,你刚生出来就看不到爸爸。 然后这个妈妈就讲说,老公啊,老公啊,我该怎么告诉你的孩子你长什么样子? My mother is the same, my boy, my child, my child. How can I tell you how your father look like? You will never see him again, my love, my love. How could I tell you how our child look like? My love, my love, how could I tell you how our child look like? My child, my child, I hope that wars like this will never be in your future. I'll protect you with my life whenever and whenever. So it's not really lyrics, not every suitable means. Like that's hear, don't go, it's just a sound, not lyrics, que es just a sound but that's the sound of a story. 所以呢我从小就听这样的歌曲,所以我就自己也做了一首歌叫做眼泪. And I made this change called Tears. 因為也是有關於這樣的故事,就是因為族群跟族群, 然後之後親愛別人就是原住民跟非原住民的戰爭。 Now it comes to a war between indigenous people and not indigenous people. 因為一瓶酒全部被換成別人的土地。 Our land was sold because of one bottle of wine. 因為一瓶酒全部被換成別人的土地。 Here to say because I feel they have been awake for over 36 hours. It is really inhumane. However, I think I was told that I like to tell stories and like to chat. So if you want to ask questions, just spare him with some. He can probably do a bit demonstration, but I mean, would you like to ask questions? Or we can chat over some glass of wine outside? 因為我剛剛說,大家說你們都沒有三十幾個小時沒有睡覺,很可憐,很累。 I mean, if you have any questions, you can ask. 哦,你不要再唱了,示範可以。 Okay, you don't have to sing anymore, I think it's very tiring. 第二個是說,如果大家覺得沒有問題,我們也可以到外面去喝杯小酒。 Okay, so what do you want? 因為我剛剛講了,你希望怎麼樣?我這樣安排OK嗎? Okay, so what do you want? 你看,還有問題。 When we were talking earlier, you mentioned Indigenous TV, you were involved with Indigenous TV. Documentary? No, Indigenous TV channel. 他說你在幫那個原名台主持節目。 Could you comment on how effective Indigenous TV is in promoting Indigenous music? 他們對原住民的音樂的宣傳跟退縮如何? Okay, in Taiwan, there is no sponsor. Indigenous TV channel, they don't have a sponsor. Every money comes from their own. 所以做節目是非常艱辛的,因為沒有經費。 So they don't have money, it's hard to make a good show. 所以有時候我們要去做這個錄影的節目,事實上有的時候,我們都沒有拿錢。 Sometimes we were hired, but we don't get paid. 就算有,但都不高。 If there is a payment, it's nothing. 而且在台灣原住民電視台, 可被看到觀看的一個機會,其實比一般的電視台還要弱。 And the visibility for this channel, this specific channel, 因為在山裡面的一些居民,他們根本看不到這個節目。 Some people still have been trapped in the mountains. 他們可以看到這個嗎? 他們還看不到 TV signal at all. 因為那個就是無線的數位化的部分,是沒有普及到三分之四。 Because our TVs all go to the channel, they don't have this. 然後今年才剛剛好,就是成立了一個數位化無線電視的一個開播點。 也造福了很多我們就是偏遠地區的一個居民,可以看得到我們原住民電視台。 So this year, our government finally opened up the digital satellite TV, over Taiwan, so you can see TV sound in the mountains. 現在就是原住民電視台,它也有一個就是所謂的姐妹台。 So right now we have a brother channel from the indigenous people. 然後我記得好像還有一個在我回去可能要查證一下,我忘記了,好像有五個國家。 And maybe five more countries have sibling channels. 然後在台灣目前就是非原住民,他也可以看得到這個電視台。 And in Taiwan every people can see this channel. 但是唯一的問題還是經費不足,可是我們還是很用心地去做這樣的節目。 We still do our best to make every show the quality show. Maybe we should wrap it up. Before you guys go out to have grab a glass of wine, I would like to thank one of our audience, Meixiang, Miss Meixiang. Actually she brought a bouquet here to dedicate it to the singer. So there you go. So maybe we can make some noise like... Very sophisticated. 跟我一樣. But who is from my garden? And this is also from my garden? Yes. Oh my god. I love it. When I heard that my friend, she sent the wine to me. And I just started to think I should do this one. Thank you.