 conducted via remote participation. So we're going to do a roll call to make sure everyone video in audio is working properly. Meg Rosa, Chair. Did you say we're being recorded? Yes. Yeah. Yusuf Fadal. Sarah Marshall. Rebecca Demling. Stephanie Jackson. Carolyn Maylor. Great. Barb Dills. Great. Yeah, so the meeting's being recorded to the web and can be shown on Amherst media and broadcast on the town of Amherst YouTube channel. And then we're going to call our meeting to order at 6.05 p.m. Right. All right, so we can start with let's see here, public comment. I see we have no attendees. So we'll go ahead and move forward with the agenda if that's all right with you, Meg. All right, so the next one. But wait, we're ahead of ourselves. I'm sorry, I forgot to approve the minutes. Yes. All right. Yeah, I was just bringing up the agenda at my screen. Yeah, I have a bunch of screens open on my other monitor here. Yeah, so are there any questions, comments, concern about the minutes from our last meeting? I have two little comments. Barb. Well, I'll start off with first of all under strategic plan. I have the date incorrect that should have been on the second bullet should have been October 28th. Not November 18th. That's this meeting. This was the meeting of the strategic planning subcommittee. I don't even see what you're looking at. This is October 14th under strategic plan. Oh, yeah, so okay. I just have that date wrong. I put the date of this meeting in instead of October 28th. Was that Wednesday? That was a Wednesday, yes. So we can, I'll change that. All right, sorry. That's all I have. Sarah? Yeah, under golf course. So on page two, I guess. Third bullet. No, sorry, second bullet. You're only two. The third sentence says revenue should be revenue. Comparison for the first quarter. And then you say FY 18 to 21. But you only show FY 19 to 21. That should be 19, correct. Okay, and then only one other. This is spelling correction under special events, Halloween carnival. That's the third page. The third bullet. I am working with Rob. It's Mora, M-O-R-A. That's correct. And that's all. Okay, all righty. Anything else? Motion to approve minutes as amended? You say second. Or if we'll all in favor. I've been told at another meeting that we have everything has to be a roll call vote. Is that what other people want? It's up to you, Molly, to make. She's the chair. Okay. You guys want to do a roll call vote for everything? Should we do a roll call vote or just say unanimous? Does anybody not agree? I think we're good. I think, you know, it has been our practice in the past. Doesn't mean that we can't change it, but our practice has been what we've done much we just did. I could see if the roll call vote was on something, you know, major consequence, which is coming up and maybe we should have a roll call vote on that. Okay. For a minute, I'm not sure we need to. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, no public comment. Who is the second? Well, you said raise his hand. I don't think it was the second, but Oh, that's what I saw. You said. All right. I might jump off and jump back on on my iPad so I can see better. Okay. All right. Now we go to public comment. Of which I can report there still are no attendees. So we have no public comment at this time. Next item. BPA proposals. So I can give a quick report and then maybe Sarah can help me understand. I received something today, Sarah, from Sonia. And did you get a chance to see that? And I just had some questions whether of that was a ranking that that came through or I'm not really sure. Um, I guess I'm I didn't know she sent it out so widely. She was just it's our practice to take just kind of a straw poll about our level of interest or enthusiasm and you may have seen those numbers for different. It's not a it's not a vote. It just helps us prioritize actually our time and where to start and what might be the difficult topics and what may be easy. So that so that part wasn't she was just updating basically the rest of that spreadsheet. Okay. So it was nothing to do with any vote yet or any scoring. It was just suggestions for how we if we if how we could actually fund proposals borrowing versus this and in what fiscal year and stuff stuff like that. So I don't think there is any issue for this commission. Okay. So just to review with everyone the three projects that fell under recreation and then their turn that turns out there also is a fourth that we've talked about before was the Groth Park Pavilion Proposal which I presented to CPAC on October 29th and then the War Memorial Pool House design some money for that design of that pool house and then they samplast blasting and painting or should say ceiling it's a different it's not painting Mill River Pool. In addition to that I was approached and it was after our meeting so they were unfortunately too late to get a recommendation a current recommendation for us but it was for the proposal for the North Common which I know we've talked about last year and in years for for some time and it seems to have had in our past the support of the commission. I actually thought perhaps there might be someone from the planning department who might come into the meeting but I don't I guess not so they but they're they're asking I believe for a total of five hundred thousand dollars is that correct Sarah and so two hundred and fifty thousand dollars would of that would come under the recreation part of CPAC. So if you hand Sarah's better at this so she could kind of remind us so there's historical go ahead the different areas. How it would be how it's been the application this year splits the five hundred thousand between historic preservation and recreation. Right. I mean there have been previous applications you know going back to town meeting and there are there are already some funds accumulated but the the the budget is has grown since the design work was done so if and I guess if you want to learn about that you can look for the CPA meeting on the YouTube channel town's YouTube channel from two two weeks ago at this point I think but town council also took it up just not to make any kind of decision but just to get an update at their meeting just this past Monday and if you want to go to Amherst media and click on the town council meeting from the 16th I watched this yesterday I think it started at hour two out of four and a half hours but hour two and it was maybe 40 minutes long you can see what's being proposed and kind of what the what the larger picture is the past the history of this work so far and where the town hopes to take it and so but Barb if there's no more no one has any question about the north and I guess you want to vote on it I have to say we never got a proposal for the war memorial pool house I know we didn't it's so I don't know what happened to that because I don't know that would have been I remember we talked about it yeah you know that's interesting we got the pavilion the grove park pavilion we got the mill river pool and we got the north common well that's news to me um hmm I will follow up on that maybe I mean perhaps with the addition of the north common they just you know they've made a decision not to uh pursue that I don't know I'll check on it there are a lot there are a lot of requests this year so yeah or maybe it just got left on the yeah that's yeah that's not like I mean I'd be surprised if that happened it would have been probably the planning department I'm not sure but that's like let me follow up and I'll get back to you with that an answer about that right so any other questions on that from the commission the total what would this bring the total to for north common attributed to to the money that we already have set aside for it I would have to look I don't I don't remember it'd be about a million dollars yeah and not all from cpa by any means but they there may be an additional ask you know next year but town council may you know who knows who knows well there's also okay so there was money for allocated for the for the parking lot right that was you know so I think that was 400 and something I think and then I believe there was the park ramp I believe that failed they're at they're not applying again okay now there was was it maybe two other cpa yeah so we have to research it I don't want to speak out in case I'm for incorrect but I think you're right we're somewhere around a million dollars are yeah Rebecca just for the um since we have members who were not on the committee at the time it was last reviewed would it be possible to like for someone I'm totally fine but just give a brief update of where north common is and what they were thinking of doing just if we're going to vote on it or talk about it I feel like we should all be working from the same set of facts good point I might even be able to if you wanted to let me share my screen if I can already do that I might be able to find um a drawing submitted or I can just describe it if you can't get to it fine you could yeah you're you're most familiar because you've had the latest all right well the north common is that section of the common directly in front of town hall so it's part part of it's a parking lot that is next to main street and then you know up to the corner of main and south pleasant and then there's a very eroded part with trees the merry maple which is held together by Christmas lights and um and uh you know it this so it's very very run down so it's between the spring street cut through that has where the farmers market used to be hopefully will be again and main street okay um the grade is so steep it's like a I may not have this right but something like a 16 foot drop from the south pleasant main street corner down to the boltwood spring street corner so um since it doesn't really have much grass at this point there is an awful lot of runoff it's hard to manage and it's scouring the scouring the ground and trees are not healthy and it's it's just kind of a sad situation on the other hand since the pandemic a lot of tables picnic tables have been put out there and people are loving that so there's clearly clearly it could be much better used if it could be redesigned and rebuilt and to offer some more amenities like places to sit me and eat your burrito or drink your coffee or whatever so this doesn't include I know there's the parking lot then the merry maple area then another parking lot and then a bigger grassy area that does not include the big grassy area it does not include the big grassy area or the spring street street parking okay just that the one just that first smaller chunk that's founded by main street south pleasant spring street and boltwood gotcha okay and just to refresh my own memory the design was going to be done um with community input at a later point and this is just the funding for the process to start well um before I was involved in any of this evidently there was a public pot there have been public oh three and then you need to go government yes that's right so yeah public has been involved the public's probably wondering what happened to that and so the design was presented to the select board like at their last meeting their final meeting and they said thank you we're not going to decide on anything you know so thank you for refreshing my memory on that I'm like there was going to be this robust public process well there certainly will be there certainly there was and there will be again definitely yeah I think they want to they don't want to do whatever whatever it turns out to be they don't want to do it in phases they want to do it all at once in the summer while students are gone it's cheaper and less disruptive to that whole part of downtown so they're trying to I believe they're trying to get the funding all lined up thank you sarah that was very helpful okay yes yeah and I would say just to reiterate there was quite a bit of public input and there were meetings and you know I'm making a test of that and and there was a committee and I believe from my memory serves me right we kind of the last where we left it at the end and it seemed that at least the the input that we received from most people was that they liked sort of the middle ground where the parking wasn't totally eliminated there were still there was still I think a loss of eight or 12 parking spots and not I don't recall up top my name is 12 but it wasn't totally eliminated and it wasn't made on the other hand it wasn't all parking so it was it makes a nice you say entry and it just aesthetically provides kind of a I don't know how to describe it exactly but a gateway I would say a gateway yeah to this public space in town hall yeah right so I think it's it hopefully that you know that seems like the town council is interested in getting this project done so fingers crossed yeah it would be a good thing because I think if you read the article in the paper recently you know it is a nice sort right now and it's it becomes kind of a muddy hole in certain part unit rain it's just not keeping with our beautiful town hall in that area and it could be and it's so underutilized right now and could be you know much more utilized if it was improved so it's a good thing all right any other questions thanks Becky for bringing that up because it's been a while since we it's sort of like Kendrick Park you know these things keep coming back all right so the next order of business make I'll turn it over to you whoa whoa didn't you want to vote didn't you want to vote I guess we could make I thought yeah I I wasn't sure we're where that was left I guess yeah we probably should do that let's um I think it would be that we would support the project again yeah the project which we've already done but let's maybe we could do it again and probably would do a real call vote on this yeah so should I say like LSSE commission or Amherst recreation commission well we're never made that so LSSE commission at this time all right we're still LSSE okay so how about um we the LSSE commission support the well continue to support the North Common proposals for CPA funding okay for CPA funding um okay I'm gonna start I'm gonna go through my list as you're set up on my screen um Becky Demling I Sarah Sarah Marshall I and I'll second the motion thank you Stephanie Stephanie Jackson I Carolyn Carolyn Maylor I Yusuf Yusuf Adele I Megers I right here's the vote is unanimous all right now we have two more votes you're moving on to the name change um so the first of these is to recommend to the town manager that we changed the name of the department from Amherst leisure services and supplemental education to Amherst recreation so we're gonna go through the roll call again um Becky Rebecca Demling I Sarah actually I'm sorry is there a second second Sarah Sarah Marshall I Stephanie Stephanie Jackson I Carolyn Carolyn Maylor I Yusuf Yusuf Adele I Megers I all right um and then our second one is to recommend the town manager that the LSSC commission be renamed to the Amherst recreation commission is there a second second okay um Becky uh Rebecca Demling I Sarah Sarah Marshall I Stephanie Stephanie Jackson I Carolyn Carolyn Maylor I Yusuf Yusuf Adele I Megers I that one accomplished does anyone know is it final if the town manager says so or or we've made it final or just you have counsel well now yeah no the town council doesn't accept as he he is the executive branch of our government town governance or city governance and so we'll make those recommendations and as long as it's in our minutes then um he will he said he would approve it all right so moving forward under Amherst recreation I wanted to just give you a brief update I know Yusuf and I have talked a bit about this we've mentioned it before about this cherry hill advisory committee so it turns out I just want to give you an update it's about what's happening here so what had to happen because this is would be an official advisory committee is that um I needed to draft a committee charge and basically it's the things we've talked about before um let me just read it to you it hasn't been approved yet the town manager hasn't approved this but I have submitted him a draft and the charge summary would read the committee will examine and make recommendations related to all aspects of golf course operations course layout and course management the committee will also make recommendations for potential uses of the property over the next three years so it's very straightforward um there would be uh this proposal of five members on that committee and the appointment would be for one year so we would have a year to basically you know we'd look at other courses we'd look at municipal courses in particular we'd do some comparisons we certainly get input uh from from different aspects of our community I you know I'm listening to what I you know from from different um golfers and and constituents we certainly would want to have Northamers residents or business owners and one of the other or both certainly golf course users golfers and non-users and perhaps a UMass faculty person who has expertise in this in course operations and so for so that's sort of the update at this point I'm waiting for the town manager to get back to me and then I'll be able to tell you give you a better status update Sarah uh to whom does this committee report it says it will report I'm sorry to the commission so you've called it a committee but is it a subcommittee or a whole freestanding I mean a subcommittee of Amherst Lech uh well that's a good question he had told me it would be a committee charge but it perhaps and that's a good question I'll ask him perhaps it is a subcommittee so let me clarify that I'm not sure just yeah okay and then my other question is we know there is a very enthusiastic uh Nordic scheme community that would love that to be developed um well that's why we have the non-golfers golf users so okay so it might the property right okay so hopefully we'll definitely have one of those individuals on that committee as well so we're waiting yeah I'd like to get started in January uh you know it just all depends how long this process of getting our committee charge approved takes any other questions on that I'm sorry um so how are any Amherst Lech members delegated to that does the town manager appoint people I mean how are these who is going to do the filling of these positions and do any commission members get a seat or yes there will be a commission member on that committee uh USF has agreed to do that but he'll actually but uh it appears from what the town manager has told me though he will have to approve and appoint people to this committee so it'll be now similar to what um the process you you all went through meeting with him via zoom now um for a short meeting that kind of thing process and they'll be you know they'll have to apply as as you all did um through the website the town website right we just need to find out what but they don't become part of this committee they're going to become part of the other committee but they report to this committee yes that's my understanding so it would seem logical that actually this is a subcommittee okay no other questions we'll move on so I did provide you with the director's report I had provided this earlier to the town manager so you'll have to um excuse some of the tenses some of it's already happened uh but just briefly I can run through this you have it um but some of the highlights the sports programs are coming to the coming to an end um all of them the ones that we ran extremely successful all enrolled full capacity which is great uh we did end up adding another session of the sugarloaf mountain athletic club track program that that's been uh we've had that around for a while it's been very popular so we added that and it ran it'll actually it's running through the month of November so that's great um let's see ultimate frisbee and modified football programs ended up ended in I think they're just about done but both of those have been very successful we're currently investigating the possibility of running a modified basketball program at Pelham elementary school as you if you're familiar with Pelham elementary school that gymnasium is very very small but you know we're we're trying to figure out some sort of program that we can do for kids uh we would be able to have that gym probably five nights a week and on Saturdays it would probably be a skills type of uh program much like we did for the football program which which ended up the kids loved it I mean just that though the kids handle the ball um see their friends and you know participate in at some level uh I think is a good thing so we're pursuing that of course a lot of this is COVID dependent on where we are uh in terms of the virus and uh any implications the different phases might that might impact it so we're cautiously optimistic uh talked about CPA aquatics yes questions can I start can I ask a question about that um possible program in Pelham um would they charge us they are they get that in fee do they have a recreation department or this is the school gym this is the school gym this is the school gym school gym yeah and yes there is a charge to be a rental hourly fee and yes we would charge for this program much like we charge for other programs um in the fall sports programs so that would cover the fees thank you uh let's see aquatics uh well I was hopeful we might be able to get in earlier rather than then later into the middle school pool but at this point um we're sort of in a holding pattern uh hopefully by spring we'll be able to run some sort of an aquatics program so um we'll see what happens there uh the golf course any questions on aquatics let's look at I look at you Carol golf course uh plate uh in in uh in october it was uh we brought in double the revenue that we had brought in the previous october october in fiscal year 20 so um that was a good thing uh we closed the course on november 16th and as I said we were in the process of trying to get that cherry hill advisory community together and right now um as I said the town manager is reviewing the charter proposal or they not the charter proposal uh the charge proposal all right and primetime childcare program so wow this was as I said this is I think an incredible service not only to um children of staff members of the town but now community members as well we have now opened it up to Amherst residents uh the how we're doing this is the schools have identified children who are really struggling and who need help with their with their remote learning distance learning so we have now uh at this point we're pretty much close to capacity and we're looking now for a new license to expand the program uh and uh we're looking at three different classrooms uh at the middle school on the other end of the building so uh this has become quite quite a very popular obviously program and a very much needed one uh so we are probably I talked to the licensor from the uh state today it takes about three sometimes even four weeks to go through the approval process to increase your capacity and then she'll have to come out and do a site visit to approve this space um so we're probably looking um at the end of December which doesn't make sense because the kids will be out of school so it'll probably be the the first part of January that we would start this program that is going well no issues so far so we're full speed ahead we do have all of our full most of our full-time staff are working at the program uh and in addition we've hired uh some some of the folks that we've used uh for our after-school program are working that program and and others so questions on that Sarah oh you're muted Sarah sorry I assume families have to pay for this is there a sliding scale or waivers if uh that's a hard for anybody yeah currently there is no charge for the program oh okay right so that oh we're hoping that that continues um but that how is that funded then is that being funded through the town okay and and the schools schools are helping out and they'll be busing the program this is great the every child gets free breakfast free lunch are we talking about the childcare thing sorry my internet help worked all right oh sorry you're good okay no quick no more questions on the childcare Becky did you have a question you're muted sorry Becky there you go my question is how many more slots are you looking to expand probably 20 more and uh you know if necessary and if it's really a question of finding staff also at this point I mean it takes a long time for them to be vetted through uh the background record checks and and and they also have to take certain coursework through EEC online before they can even start uh so that you know it's it's it's not like you can snap your fingers and you know open up you know have an orientation like we do at day camp for instance which is you know an extensive orientation but this is a little bit more more to it so it does take some time okay so let's see we special well there wasn't really much to to report on the adult and youth education obviously our classes are you know not you know you can't move outdoors when it's this cold so we're probably pretty much on hiatus until uh we can figure something out for the spring there's a possibility we might be able to use the Pelham gymnasium on Sundays but we're we're kind of still investigating that uh special events Halloween uh the Halloween parade actually was a huge success we had almost 70 cars take part in it and you know for it's sort of simple but still just to have the kids some of the you know a lot of not a lot but you know some of the parents and the families went all out they decorated their cars most of the kids came in costume in their cars uh the police and fire department were fabulous uh so all in all I'd say it was a huge success and people loved it so you know maybe we'll hope by next year we'll be back to our our usual Halloween happenings but for this year it was great uh I'm it's working right now with uh the bid and the chamber we've had some kind of really uh a little bit of discussions but we're we're hoping to set up a meeting uh next week to sort of finalize or talk about plans for winter fest and bringing that committee back together it'll look much different obviously than last year but we'd like to do something um just to help you know kind of revitalize downtown and do it in a safe way so we'll we'll see what that's that's going to look like and I'll be able to report back and we'll have the committee meet and so forth once I meet with Claudia and Gabrielle uh outreach we're still doing outreach uh we didn't uh in October we did a dinosaur evacuation yeah no excavation back to that you what you should get out of here uh go uh no it's much too late for that yes there's a hundred of those distributed the kids loved them then they were done uh fun too I think there was two or three different housing areas that we did those acts so that was good uh talked about the name change already so that's done uh we didn't receive any uh submissions for a logo yet so kind of that that's too bad although we have I don't know there were several there were a couple people I believe on the commission that possibly knew people who might be interested so if you want to put that bug in their ear I think at this point uh we're doing you know we're moving ahead we have a mini brochure that will be coming out for the winter and we're so we thought we we put it in the brochure and hopefully get some submissions that way that would be another way to publicize that hey you know here's an opportunity to to um come up with a logo uh Sarah I saw your hand first have you thought of reaching out to the high school art department I mean they do have did you too Becky um they do have art you know I I don't know what all the offerings are but it'd be a wonderful project for yeah I know it would let me uh remind Marion about that like we did I did send an email to the uh the art or their town art commission or commission I guess public art partially public art uh we didn't hear anything back but um I did send that to them I didn't hear anything so yeah I think that's a great idea Sarah and I will pass that on to Marion all right but I add one more thing can you send me some there's a lot of student artists who are actually incredibly talented could you send me a blurb and I can make sure that gets in the student morning announcements as well as in the pg on newsletter and I can also send um the email addresses of the art teachers specifically at the high school for broader reach okay I have an email that I sent to the the art uh commission so I will public art commission so I will send that to you and that has everything in it I'll just leave the uh I don't know we haven't really decided as to what we want to do in terms of a deadline on that but maybe mid-January we've already pretty much we're transitioning the new brochure we'll have just pull this up uh you know it'll be say Amherst recreation your guide to or your guide to winter activities or something like that and it has I think last year's luminary it's really pretty picture um and then I'll have kind of a blurb in there saying you know saying like okay uh who we are you know how we've worked for you through the pandemic our strategic vision our new name how exciting that is um and then she has this new logo artwork and artist bio but that will be actually be hey be a part of this change submit and then some other things so we're we always sort of sort of a you know an easy transition but it's it's getting there and then we'll we'll put out after the brochure comes I'm sure we'll have press releases and so forth as well all right I have a question sure yeah um does it make sense to give a sense if we're going to broadcast this looking for a logo this this far and wide just it makes sense to give some guidelines um are we gonna leave it open to anybody and everything or are we gonna is there a way that when you're developing a logo like if you're working with the designer you'd say and use that for you to probably say this better than I would but would you we want something that includes this and this we want to focus on that these are the town colors needs to be simple whatever would that just save us save everybody a little bit of effort well we could if you know I would say if if we'd already gotten like 10 but at this point I've I'm kind of like well let's let's just put it out there what we can get yeah I don't think you know with them what will happen is that you know the subcommittee will narrow them down to about five and then we're we decided that when we put about to the community to choose choose the winner so let's say we get 30 which I I think that's over optimistic uh just knowing how this works sometimes it's you know that's what we'll see see how it goes you know the other thing is we could we could say we could always go back to them I guess Carolyn and say well you know you made the cut but we want you now to use these colors or you know this whatever parameters we want to come up with okay so we want you to refine it now and then we'll go from there what do you think Yusuf yeah I agree I was I was thinking about guidelines and stuff but you know I think that people kind of decide what recreation is and maybe we'll get some good ideas that way and then we can sit through it from there is is there a size that we want to keep in mind because I don't want someone to do like a full page thing with a lot of details that's just a waste of their time right I would hope if if they're designing a logo they would know that logos you know can't be intricate for the most part should be simple should be you know we could say one or you know I guess we could put in there no more than three two colors probably but but we could also change that you know once if they if they came with multicolor say hey this is great but this needs to be three colors max or something I don't okay I just be interested whatever I like to see anything leave it to them okay yeah I think the high school is a great idea those yeah I need to probably a lot of participation from them mm-hmm well I think kids are dying for something to do creative to do yeah yeah be a wonderful I mean I don't know is it if it's it maybe if it's a student do you give give $50 I mean it you know nothing like a little incentive even to yeah Sarah we had decided at the subcommittee meeting that we could provide that person with a golf membership or full membership oh oh yeah I'll apply I'm the world's worst artist but I'll we're probably conflicted out don't you think all right so let's see so is there anything else to update you there no so we'll wait and see we'll reopen that and then once we get this then that subcommittee we'll meet again and review those logos website update is in process we've talked about that before and I think that pretty much sums it up any other questions have a couple things yeah so first let's talk about the advisory commuter a quick do you get the sense that I mean what I'd like to see is I'd like it to be kind of a positive thing to try to figure out what we can do to take cherry hill kind of to the next level but you get the sense that maybe he's going to try the time manager might want to bring people who may not feel as good about cherry hill as we do you know I mean like no I don't get that sense all right no I think it's just what we said I mean looking I think we do need to maybe look at how we've been doing operations and it would be good to look at other municipal courses in the region to see what they're doing and compare kind of apples to apples if you will and see what we can do better to bring it to the next level and then you know I think winter use is important how we can expand that maybe there's some low cost or grant grants that could pay for some type of winterization or heating of cherry hill right the clubhouse so yeah those kinds that's kind of look how much money how much money it made yeah did good this year so yeah this is good it's a good time to do this no no the other thing is I want to mention I want to give a shout out to Becky for you know being nominated by the chamber as a but was it a COVID hero for her work with the hot spots in the PGO so congratulations wow that's fantastic we lost to the survival center but honestly they deserved it way more than the PGO did but it was nice to be acknowledged it was like not many times you get six different schools all working on the exact same thing together it was like a really big highlight of the spring was everyone working towards like meeting our most vulnerable kids so it was it was awesome to be a part of and I don't know who nominated us but you know I don't know it was it was fun to be considered and if you don't know what happened is they did the an online event this year for the for the awards ceremony and if you got a ticket you got to vote for you know one of the five or six nominees for that award so that was the only award that wasn't figured out yet until that night so it's kind of different you probably would have got more votes too if you will figure out how to vote because it was hard to get to that part I didn't find it to the way after they closed the votes myself oh wow it was rigged we're not going there we're not going there all right uh any other comments I have a question do we have a tagline we're going to use for the logo no but it's something we could certainly add if anyone just playing around in conva there's a whole bunch of logo options in the year life in motion so that's a whole nother contest yeah that that would be a word cloud where you get everyone to submit it and then whichever whichever phrase is the biggest you know with that would be an easy one to do universally that'd be cool Becky we're gonna put you in charge of that okay that I can do all right okay uh Meg anything else I think we did it all oh we have the schedule meeting yeah okay so we are looking at December um 9th or 16th oh my goodness December already 16th sounds good to me presently my schedule is wide open yeah that's funny we're gee let me look at all the parties let's see yeah I can do it either all right want to make it the 16th that kind of puts it in the same the month yeah months away all right oh and it's not lsse you can maybe hammer strike hammer strike creation hammer strike so that's cool well congratulations on your new name you too right even like the initials a rc a rc good works love it all right then if there isn't anything else Meg you want to close the meeting and I think we're good motion to adjourn so move second all in favor hi hi all right happy thanksgiving everyone happy 16th stay safe yes and stay safe bye now everybody bye