 Just looking ahead, what are some of the things you want to do to what was your view of the synchronization with the passing part of the offense? Running game, we saw that, passing game, saw some of that too, but are there some things there that you saw that we might want to look out for moving on down the road? There's always things, you know, you're looking for D-Led, you know, how you want to attack somebody with a game plan going in, how you can adapt. But there's always, you know, critical lessons learned whether you win the game or you lose the game, and that's certainly our approach. That's pretty much the best way I can answer that for you. What do you think Santina is going to potentially have three new starters on the offensive line? Does that change anything in how you guys approach things defensively? Well, I mean, every week there's matchups, you know, you're looking at it, both teams, you know, they spend a lot of time studying and where you think you can get advantage in our vice versa. So, you look at everything like, you know, the scheme, personnel, the play callers, all that stuff you take into account as you form your plans. I've spoken a couple of times over the course of the last, early part of this week, about this team having the right mindset. That was something that you said a couple of times. How can this team indicate that to you this week, showing you that right mindset? Yeah, it's how you approach every day, you know, and so you come in there and you talk about learning from mistakes, and I think you're always going to have the right mindset. Obviously, when you need to take the emotion out of it clearly, and then you look at it and you try to look at it very objectively as best you can, and you've got to be very critical of yourself. I don't know, I've always said it a million times and it's not to be a martyr or some, you know, line you're supposed to say, but that's what you're supposed to do as a head coach. And so you look at every game and the whole climb is can we improve? Can you adapt and understand some issues? Again, you can get away with certain things. It may not cost you then, but if you're not being critical and objective, it'll come back to you at some point. So that's kind of how you approach your approach every day. You need to be consistent and taking that. And not all of a sudden, think you got all the answers if you if you win and certainly not act like a victim if you lose and that, you know, you're hopeless. And that kind of carries over to life, too. Is it fair to say that, like, kind of the first couple weeks of the season feel more like preseason just for you guys, since the whole team doesn't really play? And then maybe it's better week four? No, I don't necessarily look at it like that. I mean, you can make a great argument for certain teams and this or that. But I don't think that's look at it as a preseason. I think there's a lot. There's an evolution that happens. It's 17 games, the long season, 16 long, you know, people used to famously say four quarters and whatever. I mean, things can change in a heartbeat for you. Adapt injuries that can have a ripple effect on the personnel and where you got to play guys. As long as I'm in this and you really study the teams have been very successful, the ones that keep improving and climbing as the year goes on. So sometimes in September, things may be working for you this way, but if you don't stay top and evolve, they'll catch up to you because you'll get stale. I want to go back to Sunday for a minute, like a lot of the two back stuff you bring. How much of that was altered because Damien was hurt when you're using Keith and Parker maybe in certain situations? Were those maybe situations you would have used Cordero and Damien together? Yeah, I don't mind you asking. I appreciate the questions, like I said, but I'm not going to get into the scheme. In the second half, does that come down to play calling? What is that kind of mental lapses? There's a lot of variables. You go through the game and what will never change is if you've got to take advantage of situational football. There's a reason it's four quarters. It's NFL. The reason most of these games come down to one possession, one way or another. There's a lot of good players, a lot of good coaches. You've got opportunities, nobody's making a mistake on purpose, but you don't capitalize on the red zone. It usually comes back. You look at red zone, certainly you can look at third down into half in the games. That's why you've got to stay dialed in. If you want to go back to look at Sunday, like you said, the easy narrative is to blame one play that's never played a ghost. There's a cause and effect to everything that can lead to these situations. You go back and you need to make sure you win situational football. That being said, when you do roll back the team on Sunday, what are things that you see specifically, whether it's stuff that you can do better, the players executing on the field better, what are those things that you guys want to do better, late games? Well, it's the whole game. That's essentially where it can catch up to you. You go back and you got opportunities, whether it's in the second quarter, and you only come away, you get in the red zone, you only come away with three points. That can hurt you. I thought we did a decent job at the end of the half. We're able to handle that situation, and then you get a... They're going to change only quick. You get down in the third quarter. Again, you got a chance down there. More so, we turn the ball over. We get down there again. We don't capitalize. We settle for three. Those usually add up. Now you get into the fourth quarter. It comes down to play here or there. I mean, there's a lot of little things that add up, and the thing that you got to be careful on, and you got to be realistic. You got to give an Orleans credit, too. I got good players over there. Someone came down to one-on-one, they made a play. But we look at everything and coach to look to improve, because even if you go back and you win games like that, you want to rationalize that, oh yeah, you know, say Ku hits a field goal. We still got issues and details you got to clean up, regardless of the outcome of the game. And that's the hardest thing, and then where you got to stay disciplined to look at that, to be objective, excuse me. So that's really what it comes down to. You know, the sensationalist, again, emotional things. You want to blame one call, you want to blame one play. There's always things that we can do to improve. And if you take hard lessons that can be painful and you learn from them and improve, it will be much better for it. And that's what you've got to, that's the challenge every day. The worst thing you can do is to feel like you're a victim and blame somebody, blame this circumstance, blame that. We're not going to do that. We always look objectively and see what we can improve to get better. And that's why you kind of love the cycle of the week, because now here and there we need to get ready to play the Rams who are a great football team, football coach, and they've got a lot of good players. Kind of a thoughtful question. When it comes to coaching, is it easier to coach, when you have a decent lead, or is it easier to coach when you're coming from behind? There's challenges, either way. You know, there's always going to be challenges. It's the most competitive league to me and all professional sports. And it's a fun game to dissect, because I've got all the answers or, you know, you think you've got something figured out, even as a coach. And the other side, as I say, adapt. And as you look through it, that's what makes it fun. But again, we'll go back to being objective whether we want or lose. I don't think there's... I don't ever look at something easy or hard. It's a... I said this the other day, like I do, and I wake up and it's a privilege to be able to coach in the national football league and to be able to go out and compete against the best. Not to keep carving on Saturday, but when you go back to New York offensively, you're talking about it now with the red zone issues and then step on third down. Is there one thing that particularly bothered you? It bothers you. I don't think there's issues. I mean, things happen, right? Nobody intentionally wants to turn the ball over. Nobody, you know, whatever misses something here or there. Like I said, a lot of things that the other team has to say on it, right? There's things we can improve and you've got to be objective on the other side, too. They have a say and they give credit to them. There's always things that you look at. The situation, if you've done this or that, yeah, I think that's normal regardless of the outcome. So there's not one particular thing that bothered me. And now that you've had a chance to go back and look at Marcus and his first performance in a backwards uniform, what was it about it that, you know, maybe gave you some hope for the rest of the season? Well, I mean, you know, and I guess as you look at it and you try to move forward to answer your question, I mean, there were a lot of positives. You don't want to sit there and make excuses and that's why I'm trying to be careful because you don't want to sound like, oh, you're patting yourself because we don't know what the end result was, but there was. I thought we were pretty effective moving the football. I thought he made some really good decisions for us. So it was good to see. You know, we hadn't started a game. I started one game, I think in the last two and a half years, give or take. He was dialed in and he was ready to go. Made some big time throws when we needed him and certainly made some plays with his legs and there's a lot of things we ask him to do with the line of scrimmage. Arthur, you hear a lot about coaching trees in the NFL. You have a few degrees removed from Sean McBae. What is it like? Do you see similarities first of all and you watch what they're doing for those of us that can't identify steam right away between what you guys are trying to do and what they didn't know? I think it's like when people settle in certain places and kind of migrate. In other words, you start to evolve and you kind of create your own culture and it happens all over the league. And I mean, you look at the history of this game where people were coaching with Paul Brown and they broke off. You know, you trace it back to Paul Brown and Bill Walsh and everybody from there said, Gilman, you know, you can go a lot of different ways with it but a lot of coaches, I mean, once you're in the NFL and if you have success, you're going to cross paths with people. I've got a ton of respect for Sean. I've never worked with him, know him decently well but that is kind of easy when people say, oh, this is like that. It's usually not the case. Like everybody in the league has some kind of zone run. You know, how they teach it, the details of it, how you evolve or maybe you change some things up. Most coaches I've been with, they use every experience and what they like, they don't and that's kind of how it naturally just kind of migrates. That makes sense. Yeah, no, definitely. But just a follow-up, I think, you were on his podcast or you were on the same podcast last year and he said he'd been copying your plays in Tennessee for years. One, have you ever seen that happen? Like, hey, that's one of mine. What do you do? Is he somebody that you watch for ideas that his, you know, the system they have out there, is that something that you do try to draw from what other coaches are doing? Yeah, I did that one, the podcast with him and Peter Schrager. Yeah. I think a lot of people, I mean, it's just so much easier to watch, to access film. I think back in, not to get you too nostalgic here, but, you know, one of the eight millimeter films or, you know, you have the stories of people cutting things out of films. The owner couldn't see it and then you had the, you know, the tape was delivered Sunday morning and you didn't even add all the tapes and now everything, I mean, you can subscribe online and watch everybody's tape. We all have access to it from a library. So I think it's, and then there's so much data that's poured into it now. When the original aquatic controls, like that was a very time-consuming, you know, you're taking the sheet and you're typing in first and 10 because I'm glad I did all that because it does teach as you slow down and you break it down. Now they have all these other secondary outsources and they can pour data in and you can search for certain things and the one thing about football, you always got to take it with a grain of salt because unless you're in those meeting rooms, you may see a play that's similar, but you may teach it differently. You may teach the read differently. Well, yeah, you run this play, I run it, but I may have evolved to teach it so it's so much easier to watch it. A lot of people, they get the, let me get the touchdowns around the league. I can go in my office right now and it'll take me about three seconds to pull up all the touchdowns from week one. That used to be a way more of a challenge. You may try to see a highlight you see on the old news, sports center, whatever it was, try to get copy of the tape, how it's all right at your fingertip. So I think you see a lot of people, they do see more plays that come across your desk. Good idea is I see them in college too. When you get in the spring, I think that's, most coaches, I know it's a very long answer, but there's a lot of context to it. You end up seeing a lot of crossover, more than you really would have, certainly 20 years ago. What challenges that ran as defense with Aaron Domino for you guys on Sunday? You just kind of said it. He's a great player, probably one of the most dominant players in the last decade in this league. We got a ton of respect for him, but there's a challenge every week. It's what makes it fun. Our guys are excited about the challenge. I was going to ask about the offensive line and that challenge obviously is a big one, but what did you like from them on Sunday? They kind of took a leap forward, at least from an outsider's perspective. What did you like about that? There's a lot to like. Again, perspective, it was one game and challenges, can we get better and can we have more success or do it again? It's a different scheme that we'll see on Sunday, different players. So, yeah, there was a lot that you liked out of it. In the day, we got to make one more play. That's what it came down to, but there's a lot of positives there. What could look so difficult, I guess, for our opposing defense to deal with? I think what he does a pretty good job of is he knows how to feel the voids in the zones and what they ask him to do. Some guys, they got that feel called choice routes where he's got three options on a route, drop back, and he's going to go where you're not. By the man, he knows how to get open, knows how to very crafty leverage, and so that can make him difficult. So, when you get players like that, guys historically can work in the slot, they can take advantage, but it's as simple as they're going to be where you're not. He knows enough, he's very smart, that's what you can tell about instinct and he knows where to find those voids and understanding the coverages. And that happens over time. There's been some really good players in that kind of role. You think of Heinz Ward and what he did in Pittsburgh in the 2000s and those kind of inside the numbers routes, West Welker, certainly. Been a lot of good players. I could keep going on and on, but Cup certainly has that feel. And that's a credit to him. A receiver or an offense to have when you have a guy that, like you said, you figure out where the defense isn't because not every receiver can. A lot of times you won't ask guys to do that. There's guys you do and you do and that's what makes those guys special. It doesn't mean there's not other great players that may not run those routes, but there's certainly a lot of ways to be productive in this league, but that's one that just jumps out at you. The different veteran plan that y'all had him on over the course of the offseason and preseason and then for him to come out what does that say about, I guess, his conviction to do the work on his own instead of being, like, constantly having to perform in training camp in the preseason. Does that make sense? Well, he preps really hard in preseason. It's like a lot of players. They all got to get ready to go. It's a tough game and you got to put the work in. You can't get the steps. So when you kind of modify things to certain players because of where they're working again, and we try to make sure where as diligent as possible, we got a plan for everybody. Nobody's sitting around in a bucket hat with a script pretending to be a coach. They're working. When their team is working, they're working. And you can modify things and that's a credit to our sports performance staff and everybody as we go through it and we try to do what's best for the player. But like all our guys, we're working into that program. I wonder if Bobby Wagner had to their defense. Yeah, he's got intelligence, obviously instinct. They're a very productive player. Similar to DeMario, you know, they're not the first time they've seen most of the stuff we throw at him. Got great experience, tough. Makes plays all over the tape. Got a lot of respect for him as well. How unusual is it for you? You've been around a lot of football. You seem to be looking better as he ages, especially at his age now. I mean it looked like he was like 21 out there on Saturday. A bottle of hope is one. Is that what you're saying? It's a challenge, right? Maybe I can find some of that myself. So when I age, I can look younger. Certainly that's trending around society. No, it's just, you know, you try to it's a credit to C.P. and the work he's put in. We just got to keep trying to push and put our players in the right spots to have success.