 Good evening everyone this. Hey, I was just going to tell you, I don't know if you can see, but we do have quite a bit of people in attendance for the meeting. So, this is going to be a really well attended meeting. And yeah, I think we're all ready to go. So thanks for calling in Fanta. Sure, thank you. Good evening everyone, this is our community meeting for the traffic signal and pedestrian improvements going in at the bastard boulevard and old town of say. Child intersection and before I want to get started, this. This intersection is located in council district 2. So, if there's any representative from council district 2, if you want to introduce yourself and give any word before we get started. Hello, my name is my, I'm district director to the office of council member for is he is aware of the meeting. He wants to send his apologies for not being able to attend. He's in flight right now from Austin. And any questions you want to relay attendees as well to council members floors. We're more than happy to assist as well after the meeting. Thank you. So then next, we'll go over the agenda. We will talk about the project background will give a project update. We'll discuss the project schedule and then we'll discuss project contact information as well. So, we'll talk about the project background. So the objectives include improving traffic throughout their intersection during peak hours. Reducing delays and improving overall safety for all users. We're, we're hoping to improve pedestrian safety at the intersection by installing pedestrian actuated signals with push buttons and to improve pedestrian access elements, such as compliant ramps further for a project background. So. In June of 2019, we got the initial citizen request for a traffic signal and since then we've received more than six requests. In February, 2020, a signal one study was conducted and this intersection, my three warrants for a signalization and then March, 2020 received funding. So next, we'll go over the project location. So this intersection is just less of I 35 and then to the east of this intersection. We have a QT gas station and we have a car wash. And then to the south, we have the son of a enclave community and then so this next slide. We can see the preliminary design. So we're planning on signalizing all four approaches at this intersection and then the proposed lane assignment. So we'll have the left turns for east and west and then. North and south as well, and then we'll also have the. ADA ramps and pedestrian signals going off or ways as well. So next, we'll talk about the signal warrant. So the, that's what delivered is currently a heavily traveled corridor with over 24,000 vehicles per day and then. With the new warehouse development to the north of the intersection that that's increased the volumes as well. The intersection meets traffic signal warrants 1, 2, and 3, and the warrants are based on the Texas manual of uniform traffic control devices. Next, we'll go over the project schedule. So the project is currently in the design phase. There is no right of way acquisition anticipated and we're currently in communications with on corn to address possible conflicts. We're planning for the contract execution for construction as well as construction to start this summer of 2023 with an estimated duration of 8 months. And then next, we'll go over project contact information. So the design engineer is LGA and their project manager is Scott Booth and then let the city of Fort Worth on the project manager. Santa Cava and then both of our information is on the slide and then next, I want to talk about to risk request. So, this, this meeting is solely for the intersection of Bathwood Boulevard and old time of a troll. However, we're always open to feedback and any other requests. We have multiple ways to put in those and so 1 of those is my footwork for Apple. There's the my forward that for Google and then you can also text hello to 817835 my forward or 6, 939 or you can also call the city cost center at 8173, 9, 2, 1, 2, 3, 4, and then thank you again once again for joining this. Community meeting and now the floor is open for any questions or comments or concerns. Are you guys aware that just right along that intersection or slightly ahead of it? I don't know if inadequate drainage was designed to there or what, but when it rains and I don't know what that's going to do your intersection there. It is totally clogged up with deep, deep water. I mean, you have to drive through it like 5 miles per hour. If you don't want to drown your engine out and I wondered if anybody's taking that into account with that intersection. Yeah, that needs to be prepared immediately. So, you guys are aware of that then. Chat, do you want to answer to that? The scope of our project does not go that far, but we'll definitely take a look at that. I'll try to figure it out. If this is something that was built by the developer and if it's already been beyond the 2 years, then the city is going to have to coordinate with our drainage folks to see what will be the best way to address that and then we can provide a feedback back to you guys. We're still designing the intersection and this is outside of the intersection, but we certainly will take that into account as well. Yeah, so, if there was any local drainage issues right there in the intersections where maybe a curb inlet was needed or something like that, we might add that as part of this, these improvements. I don't think we're doing anything right like that right now. If this drainage issue is it farther to the west or to the east? It is down just about where that intersection is. It might be slightly east of that intersection, but it's real close. In fact, I'm thinking anytime there is a significant rain, like a couple of inches, when we have 1 of those, I'm thinking your intersections going to be impacted. If you look at the drainage, I was looking at that today as I drove by it is like the smallest little 11. The section, the section of road in question is eastbound Basswood between old Santa Fe and the 7.11. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that needs to be repaired immediately. That's been an issue for a while. Well, certainly we'll look into that immediately. We'll get with our get our engineer and our drainage folks involved and so, and we have rains recently to see what is the best way to handle that. Because we don't want to generate a bigger issue. We don't want our pedestrians to be sitting in water. Back next time that happens, I'll be sure and get a good shot of what it looks like some video and try to email you guys. Okay, thank you, but it would help a lot. Yeah. There's some questions in the chat box can fantasy those or can chart. Can you go through those? Yes, benefit. Yeah, I can read the questions in the chat. The 1st, 1 is about the drainage improvements. Yes, they agree that there's terrible water out there during rainstorms. Holly has a question concerned about the traffic backup to the roundabout at Basswood and horsemen. She's just concerned about about that. Yeah, is there when was the traffic study done? Did you say? The traffic study for this project in 2020, 2020, like in the spring of 2020. Yeah, you need to do a new one because there's been a lot of things that have changed since then that that traffic is. Crazy it backs all the way up over half a mile. There at the 35 access road, it's a big, it's going to be a big impact to that. But I'm not saying, no, you do realize that it was done in 2020 and it's gotten worse. Yes. So, it's not doing a new study is not going to do any good. I mean, it's already going that needs to be done exactly. So 1, I'm just wondering if the signal lights even a feasible option at this point. Well, we have an obligation. So once we have received a request and we have conducted a study. Based on the Texas mine of traffic control devices, and it indicates that the warrants are met. In addition to evaluating the number of crushes, I believe we discover about 4 crushes in the last 2 and a half years. We have an obligation to do something to install the device. So it's been on the least waiting for funding for 2 and a half years. So. And why was there around study? We're doing the traffic study is going to indicate that there's more traffic, which is going to make it even mean more warrants. So that's not really going to it's not going to change the outcome. But the traffic circle was was not part of the study. No, because the traffic circle is is a total, you know, different section and it's beyond 500 feet away from this 1. So I'm talking about why is a traffic circle not being put at that intersection. Oh, well, because the request was for a traffic signal and that's what we studied. You know, we wouldn't be doing a study for around about less. That was the request. So, at this point, we requested that from the city in that time frame that they look at a traffic circle. We did not receive we did not receive that request. We received the information that we received from our transportation management group that. They documented 6 different requests, you know, for the traffic signal. And in addition to that, installing a traffic circle that close to 35 would be counterproductive as well. So, at this point, the traffic signal is the option and it will be for this intersection. It'll be time with the 35 signal. We certainly can look at that. The I 35 traffic signal is it's controlled by text start, but we definitely can reach out to them and have a discussion with them because of the construction of the 3 c section, which is the section, you know, just north of Western center all the way up to Gainesville. There's quite a bit of changes that are happening to all those intersections all up and down the 35 corridor. I just don't want the signal like there. I don't want to make the issue that's already a terrible issue. So, somebody has to come out and figure out how all of this is going to work before we start construction. I just want to, this is the traffic signals. I just wanted to add that the, the, the, the new intersection of basketball and old Santa Fe will be timed with 35 traffic lights. It will be timed for, for, you know, but you got to fix the 35 traffic light problem. And it's on and when you're going east, it's, it's the access west of 35 and access road east of 35, it backs up at both places and it's a terrible problem that needs to be resolved. I want to make sure that gets resolved before we put the signal light into, because I don't want it to become worse. This is all the signal light. This is one of those people, your average or maybe it's going to start to live on. So, let's say I got cut off for a minute. Should I continue going through the questions in the chat? Correct. I got dropped off also, and then it wouldn't work. So, I have to join through the browser. So it might be WebEx. WebEx might be acting up. So, yes, continue, please. Oh, gosh, I'm having a problem now. I only see 1. They want me to read. Yes, please only see 1 question in the chat now. So, the next one was mostly a comment from Jennifer. She is looks like she's happy with us installing a traffic signal because her kids have issue taking terms on. Um, password after exiting all kind of a trail. So, thank you, Jennifer. And the next question is, will the Westbound turn lanes still not allow you turns? So, we are currently still looking into it. Fanda, do you want to elaborate on that in conversations with our engineer? And then we're going to discuss that. And we will have that update for you. If you want to put your information in the chat, and then also, we'll have a pre construction community meeting as well. And then we'll be further in the design. And then we can show you the final line. So, if you allow you turns there, it's going to make it impossible for the. Residents entering into Santa Fe enclave to be able to get into their neighborhood, because it's going to back up. So far with people trying to turn left, going Westbound on that's would. Yes, so I just go ahead chat. Sorry, I was just going to make sure I right now, I believe there's a U turn is prohibited in both directions. But is there 1 specifically that you're concerned about is, is it the folks traveling West to want to make a U turn and go back to the highway? Or is it the other turn? Yeah, it's the ones that are going West on basswood trying to U turn because they're trying to get over to the. The gas station there and it's it's bad right now. A lot of people do U turns there. It's very dangerous. Right, it's going in both directions causes so much danger on that on that intersection in both directions. Yeah, so we don't want to allow the U turns period. I mean, if you're going to allow them after you put in the signal light, the traffic's going to back up there to where it's you're not going to be able to go left. When you're going Westbound. So you need to we need to start enforcing that nobody looks at the signs. Yeah, we understand that there was some I don't know if I would call them complaints, but folks reached out to the city and said, this is really a big issue out there. And those signs were installed prohibiting U turns, but we understand that it might still be a problem, even though those signs are out there. They do it every day, no matter what he said. It might be she said she's the one that's going to get the light. Somebody said it would have been better if they would have put a light instead of a ram about down at West Bend, and it would have. That would have traffic there. They're not hearing us, aren't they? Yes, we're here with you. We're just waiting for you guys to finish. We don't want to interrupt and we're trying to, you know, we can work with our, with our police officers, try to find out who's the MPO. The name of patrol officer for that area and asking to, you know, increase, you know, patrolling of that area, you know, for the U turns, I don't think that we will remove the existing signs just because we're going to signal as a intersection. I mean, the U turns are a safety issue that, you know, we will continue to prohibit in those, but keep in mind that, you know, if someone is exiting the gas station and they want to go back to 35, they're going to make the U turn regardless, right? Unless they get a cop there watching them. But we definitely will coordinate that, you know, with our PD folks, and we make sure that if that, we restrict U turns at other sections, you know, when we have a safety issue. But just trying to be realistic and understanding that, you know, some of those businesses on that other side on the north side of password that they don't, they, they're like, writing right out and their customers are going to want to go back to 35, they're going to make a U turn somewhere. Was not access 35 if they go out on the. The East side of QT. There's an exit on the, so they have an exit, right? Yeah, they have an exit to 35 off each side of QT. So they don't have to go that way. Yeah, okay. So, in that case, they will have an alternate access point. The police officers also might want to be reminded to not use that no U turn sign as well. I have, I have camera pictures of this happening on more than 1 occasion for non, not emergency needs. So. Also, is there a way that the U turn sign, you know, it's further down way down from where they're doing the U turn. Could we have a 2nd U turn sign up at the strip on the East side of the intersection. Yes, we can actually, you know, taking that into account and make sure that, you know, we find the best place, you know, to, to put an advanced warning sign. And an additional not in U turn time to try to enforce that. But the best thing to do is, you know, this happens with all traffic signs, right? It's like an honor system, like your speed limit signs and your no parking signs and every kind of traffic sign that you have out there in the transportation network. You know, it's like, you're not going to have a police officer out there 24 hours a day. So it's like an honor system. You know, you expect people to follow the rules and to follow the traffic laws. So. Sometimes adding more science doesn't help, but, you know, we can certainly look at that. That's not a, that's not a big significant change. We can actually look at that, but we need to be realistic. You know, we can't control folks behavior, right? So. Let's, let's, there's one other issue and that's with 18 wheelers coming out of that north side of that intersection. They're not allowed on by. But people 18 wheelers from what I understand are not allowed on. There's a, no, there's a, no 18 wheeler sign and they come down and enter that intersection and it gets stuck out there in the middle and block the traffic is very, very dangerous. Yeah, so we certainly talk to make sure that they understand and make sure and start putting some fines out there. So people get the, the just. Yes, the importance is key for that to allow any 18 wheelers and you need to put it there at the north coming out of that north entrance on the basswood. You need to put signs there too. Part of the wheelers on basswood, there's also an exit for them on, on the 35 from on the east side. Let me ask you something. So, do we have like the, the no truck sign with the, with the cross buck or we have something that says no trucks or something. It's just the picture is the picture. Yeah, so, you know, we could actually like add a supplementary play that says no, no trucks. We need to decide that property too before they get into the intersection. They're doing this in front of the police pardon me, ma'am. Can I please say something just before this is over? I know there's a lot of folks on this that are in opposition to this traffic law, numerous reasons. But I just want to say 1 thing, you know, in the morning is when it's most safety is most paramount when we leave our neighborhood here at Santa Fe enclave. I mean, we have people come up that road at high rates of speed before that traffic starts to back up. And once it backs up, this is a different day and age back in the day. I could roll down my one day and ask somebody to let me in nowadays. People just ignore you. So not only do you have difficulties getting out from safety aspect. You also have difficulties getting out just because of individuals in a different mindset. So, so I think everybody on this, this phone call would, would be in that mindset that they would let you in. But the other thousands of people that come up that basswood road, the ones that just either, you know, they're, they're trying to make that traffic light before it turns red or trying to get on 35 before they're late to work. There is just, there's, there's just no more kindness and, you know, and, and most in the majority around us these days, and it's going to make it once again, more wrecks without that stoplight or just difficulties. Just getting out and then you've got teenagers that are trying to exit and you've got people from our neighborhood, you know, different walks of life and they're starting to get a little bit itchy because the teenagers not going quick enough. And so we're starting to back up in our neighborhood. And so it's just, it's, it's a whole lot of reasons. And that exit is, or that side, there's not an entrance on 35 for Santa Fe service road. It's an exit only. And then, you know, people that are just trying to go across basswood, they would have to go all the way down to the western center loop around and come back. And so it's not as easy as it sounds. I wish it was, but, you know, just once again, I realize opposition is out there, but it's not just the backing up of the traffic. It's a lot of safety, especially in the mornings when we try to leave during the week. Thank you. And I agree with Paul and, you know, we've, I see people saying, oh, just go out the exit gate and go on western center. We should not have to go all around western center and come back. We should not be locked into our neighborhood. We, we lived here before all this was built. So now we've been shut into our neighborhood and can't get out. So that we shouldn't be punished for that. And we shouldn't be concerned for our safety for that. And, you know, most of us have kids. I don't like my kids pulling out on the 35. Like Paul said, people are not kind and they're not going to let you out. So for the ones opposing it, this is a safety issue. And if it was your family that you have your kids in the car, you wouldn't want to take a chance of that being your car. T bone by somebody with your kids in the car. And I want everyone to understand that this is a data driven supported traffic signal. The traffic signal study takes into account gaps. Accidents side distance, you know, the number of gaps, you know, per per 15 minutes, the number, you know, now we have businesses that gas stations on the north that, you know, people from. The south may want to walk, you know, to the gas station to get something to drink, et cetera. And there's not a safe way to get pedestrians across. So this, this is been, this is supported by data. Okay. This is something that, you know, it meets the ones for traffic signal. We need to move forward. And so we're going to do everything that we can to try to address, you know, your concerns. We're going to look at the drainage issue. We can certainly add additional, no, you turn signs. That's not a big deal. We can actually communicate with our tech start partners and and try to figure out if there's a way that we can, you know, improve the timing. We do have a project to add an additional left turn lane on Basswood, you know, out there further down, but we've been having some other reasons. So we have a minute. So, you know, we appreciate everyone's feedback. You know, we understand that, you know, every project, you know, has, you know, the sprawls and cons. And we're here to try to, you know, you know, listen to your concerns and try to do everything that we can. But, you know, we have a responsibility to, you know, to move forward because if we, if we decided not to install the traffic signal after we have a study that justifies us and then there's some major fatality out there. The city is liable. The city is exposed now to liability and we don't want to lose 1 single person's life. So, you know, with that, if you guys have any other, you know, questions or concerns, you can always email a Fanta with any other additional comments and we will be, we'll get back with you. Let's say there's a few more comments. Good. Yeah, there's there. No, I was going to say that folks have taken the time to put comments in the chat. And yeah, we should go through all those. So, Shweta, could you pick up where you left off? And let's just a lot of these are sort of comments about what have been said, which is fine. And then I see some questions in there and some requests also. Yes, so I looked at 1 of the comment and that's that it would be adding delay for someone trying to get on to 35, but I wouldn't say it would be a delay. It would be, I think, maximum a minute or a 2 for you to get across that intersection and considering safety of all the residents coming out of all Santa Fe. I think that should be not a bad decision and then we have another question. I have a question. I have a question because I've checked. I've touched in my concerns. I'm all about safety. I'm all about having a stoplight at that location. It is busy and it is dangerous. But what when you live in that neighborhood, Santa Fe, you're not thinking about the impact it's going to have all the way down basswood to blue mound. Then this is going to create another problem. Then it's going to be another safety problem. You're going to have people and then the city is going to get in trouble because. Here we are expressing a concern for safety. And if somebody dies in the traffic circle that we have, it's it continues to go down. I am all about having a light there. But I think they need to look at getting rid of the roundabouts on basswood and putting light and that will help traffic tremendously on basswood. And it would be beneficial by doing that to help those residents at the Santa Fe. Okay, so 2. Because we have school buses, and then you got to think about emergency response on a road. And if the roundabout is so backed up because of that light, how is an ambulance or fire truck going to get through? Thank you. This body being made of what is causing all the traffic back up because every morning I take that traffic. And another traffic light doesn't seem to be resolved will resolve this issue. I understand that Santa Fe cannot get out. But it's backed up all the way down the main reason for the backup is when you're going north on 35 access road on the East side. That's where the traffic backs up. So, there was mention that if we put 2 left turning lanes there, that would resolve the issue. Guys, it's also a right turning lane, the widening that right turning lane. Because when there's a new sidewalk there, when the sidewalk didn't exist, that lane was a little bit farther down and it wasn't backed up as bad as it is right now. Turning lanes the right towards excuse me, turning to the right to towards the 711 and if you go across to turn to the left, those 2 turning lanes are what is backing up all the traffic. Maybe the stuff like for Santa Fe is not about traffic flow. It's about safety. But guys, it's it's really, but it's going to cost more traffic. I'll help solve y'all's problem real quick. It's it's about we should have gone to city council meetings. It's about infrastructure. These roads should have been wider. If they're going to allow so many housing developments to go up. The city should have made the vastwood wider from blue mound all the way to 35. So this is partly. Our fault for not attending those city meetings when they're releasing all this property to developers and they don't widen the road. They maintain it a 2 lane road both directions. So. You know, I know we're all trying to point fingers at each other, but it's really the city. It's the city that they should have made that road wider. Well, it's planned to be wider. It's already in the works to be wider. They just have a lot of these issues. They just haven't done it yet. I gotta get out of here. Then we'll make that wider. So. Yeah, it's planned to be water. Look it up. Thank you. We have another comment here that says, can we install the signs instead of the traffic signal? But it looks like there were comments below that said that the drivers are not following the U turn signs that are already there. So additional sign. That's part of the problem. Yeah, it's all anything and then Holly, I think you requested current traffic study for horsemen and Santa Fe. I will go back and check if we have any study for horsemen. And we'll be quite you the traffic study that we have for buswood at all Santa Fe. And, and I wanted to remind you guys of that previous slide. And I understand that, that you have all these other concerns about these other locations, et cetera. But the best way for you to communicate is, first of all, communicate with your council member. The council director is in this meeting about all the issues and concerns that you have, you know, along buswood. And the other thing is the previous slide that shows how to submit a request for the city to perform a study. So, you know, my forethought for Apple, Google, these different alternatives for you also to submit, you know, any kind of request for, you know, studies or concerns or whatever. And these ones are all looked into and responded by staff. So the, the, the buswood at horsemen roundabout was built quite a bit ago. It was done by a developer. And I think that the other roundabout for the now also was part of a development project. So, you know, development developers, they just put the infrastructure in there. We get a two year warranty. Once up to your warranties is fired, you know, they're out of, they're gone. So, but, but if you would like the city to do some sort of study, then you need to submit a request. You know, through some of these avenues or contacting your council members office. So then they came forward with the request down to the appropriate staff. If you don't want to do this one. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. No, that's okay. So, are there more, I think there's more in the chat, right? We're having a really good response in the chat window tonight. I think. Yes, I think this is the highest I have ever seen. So. I think most of them were the similar comments going down. There was 1 concern regarding beach at Basswood, but I don't know for some reason, I think I've heard of that intersection. Is that 1 of our projects without 2020 to 1 for some reason, I remember it being. If not, I think that was 1 of our mobility intersection projects, right? Listen, yeah, I think that we just finished expanding capacity there. Yeah, yeah, it's been completed. We have another project another intersection project somewhere on beach. I just can recall the location. I think that's not talent and beach. I guess. I think that is mostly it to add that were mostly comments instead of and I don't think we have many questions after that. There is is ready people from our neighborhood on. Okay, I see a question about, you know, adding a 2nd, turn lane on the 35 North. And getting rid of all the roundabouts on Basswood, I think we've we've talked about about that 1. I never know we can't hear you looking you hear me now. Can you hear me? Yes. Yes. Okay, yes, I wanted to answer the question about the left turn lane, the eastbound line from 35 to 135. No, thank you very much. Can you tell, can you tell the folks who you are real fast? Yeah, so we agree that the eastbound left turn lane needs to do a left turn lane. It's a single left turn lane right now. So, we have put in that request to text start being a tech start facility. We have put in a request to text start to, to make it a dual left and, you know, I believe they're working on it. So, we'll coordinate with them again to check on the status of that request. You know, after this meeting, but the city has put a few months ago, so he has put in a request to to to convert it into a dual left turn lane. What was your name? My name is soccer spelled s a g a r. So, are we talking about, are you talking about a left turn of folks? Traveling north trying to go west on basswood or or something else? No, no, going east on east on basswood at 35 to go north to go north. Okay, a dual left there. Okay. Right, right. Yeah, that'll help a lot. Yeah. Sega is 1 of our senior traffic engineers with transportation management in case you guys were wondering. Thank you. That's all I have to say. Thanks, that was helpful. And the time frame is. Sir, I don't know about the time frame will be checking will be checking the text dot and getting that from them. Yeah, it looks like you have your hand raised. Do you have a question was that to Holly? I see one hand. Okay. Yeah, looks like not. We also have 1 more question on the chat. Do the tractor trailers exit the warehouse on to password on to the 35. Access road, I am not sure about that. I think they should be exiting on to the access road, but. If someone knows, I let them answer that. I said to the tractor trailers exit the warehouse area on to them. On to password or on to the I 35 W access road. And she's like, I'm not really sure about that. How many wrote they are not supposed to. But have seen them do it. You're not on mute. Hello. There's another question. Everyone needs to mute please. There's another question on the chart. How much impact to the traffic is expected by construction. I'm more open to the light after seeing the backlog of people desperate to get out of Santa Fe this morning. Nobody let them out. So how much so the question mainly is on how much impact we will have on traffic during construction. So, you want to take that or you want me to answer that go ahead or Scott's here. I'm not sure if you've thought much about that, but we're. We're adding we're we're making construction in towards the inside of the median right go ahead. Yeah, I'll I'll I'll be happy to answer that question. So. Generally, with a traffic signal installation. Because everything is occurring along the outside edges of the road. There's usually minimal impact to the overall traffic. Oftentimes, if they do need to make closures or other elements. It'll be during the non peak times of the day. So that the contractor can bring in equipment or manage things. But during the outside of those those off peak hours. Generally speaking, there's minimal disruption to the traffic. We're making some some changes to the median noses and some of the other elements. So there will be some some elements in the middle of the road. That will have barricades barrels. To to protect the drivers, but we should be able to maintain. Most of the time, the 2 lanes of traffic through the 2 lanes in each direction. So the full 4 lanes. During the time that it's being constructed. Thanks Scott, there's another question on the chat box. I think it has to do with schedule. Yeah, so the question was that they didn't expect it to take 8 months for us to construct the traffic signal. So, listen, do you want to answer that about the material? Yes, absolutely. So, we're trying to get very creative because because of supply chain issues, anything that involves still it's it's it's in, you know, it's in experiencing some register delays. It's taking 6 months plus to procure the materials, the signal, the traffic signal poles, the mast arms. The cabinets, et cetera. So we are going to we're going to issue a partial authorization for the contractor to order materials now. But we currently have experiences 5, 6 months plus in procuring those materials. So we're going to do that now to get the contractor to order the supplies. And in the meantime, you know, we're, we're, we're hope to mobilize the contractor, you know, around July or August because by then we should be close to be getting the materials. And that way they will be able to start doing the underground work, all the conduit and, you know, putting foundations, et cetera. Then at that point, we cannot do any work until we can erect the signal poles. So hopefully, we'll be able to, you know, finish before the 8 months. But we're just trying to be conservative because of what we currently are experiencing in some other projects. And this is affecting every single, you know, government organization text that is experiencing the same thing on their projects. So it's a supply chain issue. Right now, that is a result of COVID. The COVID shutdowns impact the manufacturing industry tremendously, including, you know, steel. So everybody is fighting for the same materials and, you know, the materials are not, they're not being manufactured as fast as in the past. So it's taking a long time to get those in. So we're going to get the materials order now. We're hope that they're going to be in maybe around September. And so we're going to try to minimize, you know, try to speed up the schedule, but we're just, you know, we're just using that a month to try to be conservative and make sure that, you know, we allocate for this, this procurement of materials. Thank you. We've got another question in the chat and let's say it wasn't this project approved an year ago. I assume that is for us to order the traffic signal poles. And so that's correct. The project was approved. Actually, the project was approved. Almost three years ago, the funding was given to us last May and March, April timeframe. And then we have to go through a process to secure a designer, bring the designer on board, and we already are beyond 60% design. So we've been, we've been working on getting the project designed so we can go ahead and get to construction. So that's usually like a 12 month timeframe, you know, from the time that you have to procure your, your engineering firm, go in front of council to authorize that contract and then, you know, get the engineer to do survey and collect information and then just get your design developed. So that that's usually a 12 month process. So, you know, we're, we're getting close to getting to that 90% milestone where we've been looking at, you know, construction documents, et cetera. Thank you, Lisa. I think that was the last of our comments. Does anyone else have any questions. I have one. So while we're waiting for supplies to be ordered and construction to begin on the lights, you mentioned that we could get additional signage out on the road for ensuring that you terms aren't taking place and ensuring that the semi trucks are driving down basswood. How long does it take for that signage to get put in place. We will forward those those requests to our group of folks that handles the science and markings and I will make sure that if you put your contact information on the chat. Your email address or a phone number that we can call you back or whoever wants, you know, a follow up. We can get back with you and let you know, you know, what is the timeframe that they're estimating because that's, that's another group of folks. That we have to coordinate with. If it was, if it was to be added to our plans, then we could add it to our plans, but then it wouldn't happen until we go to construction, right. But if we want them sooner, we have to coordinate with our science and markings group and get a schedule for installation from them. Thank you so much, Dana. Could you get that short and make sure that you get that email address or anyone that wants to follow up for any questions or concerns. Just please input your contact information in the chat box so we can then follow up with you. So we had another question from Russ, and that's about the funding and I was waiting to order the supplies. So, so our standard process or a standard method to build these projects is that we hire a designer. You know, we, it takes about eight to 12 months to get your designer on board get everything designed. Then you're going to put this out for bid for a public competitive bid process, you know, and that takes four or five months to go through that process and then you get a contractor and then the contractor then order materials. We, you know, when we, we got to a point, it was around December of last year where we decided that's going to take too long. We can't go that route. We're going to have to figure another way to do this. So, we went ahead and got new contracts new on call construction contracts in place. So we decided we can do the traditional design bit bill because that's going to just take forever. We have to do something else. So we went ahead and advertise and got new on call construction contracts that just got executed. Like a couple of weeks ago. So now that I have the contracts in place, then I can order materials. So, I know it seems like it's a long time, but you know, there's a process right and there's all these processes that we have to follow to get things done right. So the original intent, which is what how we build these projects because you get a better price when you do the typical design bit built was that, you know, we were going to put the project out for bed, get bits in. That process takes four to five months for you to even begin construction, and then the contractor wouldn't order materials until they have an executed contract on hand. Well, that's just gonna take too long. So last fall around November time, we decided that we were not going to go that route. But we need a new contracts new on call contract construction, you know, in place. So we put this out for bed. And, you know, again, it takes three or four months. So I finally got those contracts executed and ready to go. So we also verify with legal that that that we could do that that we could actually pay a contractor for materials on hand because we typically don't. We typically have line items in the contract for furnish and install. And until that is in the ground, we don't pay the contractor so we have to conform with legal that we can actually do that. And they did they said, yeah, it's covering your conditions, you can do that, but you have to have proof that the materials are order and get pictures and all that kind of stuff. So that's why we're ordering the materials at this point. So, and we did this to be able to get the project done, you know, as quick as we can. And also to add on that to us, we have to wait until we are at certain point on the design just to confirm on the lens of the master that we need for the signal pole. And we usually don't get it until we are at 60% where we finalize our location. Just to make sure if our master is like 40 feet long or 45 feet or 50 feet. We don't want to go ahead and order the material for a wrong size and then had to redo the work. So that's another reason that we have to wait until this point get everyone's comment. And finalize everything before we order our materials. I hope that answers your question. Do we have any more questions. Just one quick follow up. You said you were going to send in service request for the U turns the signs for the U turns 18 wheelers and then also for the drainage correct. No, we're going to we're going to handle the drainage with our design right so that will be for us to that will be an action items for us to make sure that we take care of the drainage with with our project right. But the science that's going to be a request that we're going to submit to our transportation management folks the science and markings team. So they can go ahead and provide us a, you know, a schedule to try to take care of this, you know, quickly. Instead of waiting for us to, you know, get out there and start construction and to add those signs so the drainage we're going to try to incorporate into our plans so we're going to be looking at that meeting with our drainage folks. And then, you know, where is the law point? Where is my water sitting? I mean, do I need to add an in later or dropping later? What do I need to do to make sure that I capture that water? And that's going to be added to the construction plans and that's going to be part of our project. But the science, because for the additional signage, we're going to we're going to process that as soon as possible. We're going to get with our science and markings team. And make sure that they understand it's a high priority and try to get you a schedule for that when they can have the science out there. Thank you. Thank you. Chat. Do you want to close the meeting with the closing remarks? I don't know if I have any closing remarks, but I really appreciate everyone attending tonight and providing all this great feedback. I've tried to take screenshots of everything in the chat. I'm not sure if anybody else was trying to do that, but we appreciate all the questions. And, and, and the comments and yeah, we have some stuff to follow up on and. You know, thank you. Thank you everyone for attending. Thank you. Oh, you guys have a great evening and we will be following up on these items and, you know, keep in touch with you guys to make sure that we can keep you informed of our progress or lack of progress. If we run into some other major significant thing because of what's happening with the market right now. But we appreciate you guys and please don't hesitate to reach out to us or to your council member. And we will make sure that someone gets back with you and that we will give you an answer. You guys have a good night. Thank you. Thank you.