 We have unanimous approval of the minutes. April. I'm slashing off the third item. On the financial reports, it's great to have Mike back. Hey, he's in the house. I do believe this is a tumor. Mike is going to hand off to Rob at a certain point. But we're. Mike tends to be the real time. Where are we at this moment to the penny? Well, and then Rob does the budgetary. Well, Michael hasn't had a chance to. I didn't have a chance to. But I can. I did go to today. Just check the balances. So I can let you know that. As of this moment, PayPal is currently at $466 and zero and three cents. The reason for that is because of Christopher. And you can find that we get it still a little bit more. So the payments for the camp are going into PayPal. So that's an, an active account. And then in checking, we have $13,397.40. And in savings, we have 188,444 and 12 cents. That's good. Carlos, any of those numbers? Repeated. Rob. Rob, can you put those numbers and send them as a text. About a chat. You're looking to chat. On the chat. Yeah. Yep. He just says she's having great. Oh, she pop. She's also joined in this room. She is. Yeah. I should have thought about the beginning of the video on screen for you guys, but CJ just got in. She didn't. She just got in. So she has not heard. I will repeat the numbers for CJ. So, and I'm putting in the chat for Carlos. Yeah. PayPal of 4603. Checking. At 13. Yeah. Yeah. I should have thought about the beginning of the video on the screen for you guys, but CJ just got in. Does she hear the financial report? She didn't. She just got it. So she has not heard. I will repeat the numbers for CJ. So, and I'm putting in the chat for you guys. Okay. Okay. Thank you. CJ, we're not hearing you. Are you on mute? I am. I'm on muted now. Thanks for the heads up. I can get it. All right. That's a cat. That is the budget versus actual, but you have any packet. As I've said, there's not. Anything that is particularly important. Okay. Thank you. CJ, we're not hearing you. Are you on mute? I am. I'm on muted now. Thanks for the heads up. I can get it. The tail. That's a cat. That is the budget versus actual, but you have any packet. Yeah. Anything that is particularly is worrisome. In fact, it looks pretty good. We are doing a lot of savings in compensation. As I mentioned, because. For the first half of this year. We have not been on. Fire and all cylinders are setting it up. There's many people. We do expect it to pick up. We are starting to set camera operators out in the field. That's who can attest. Without last night. Slide board. Yeah. And so we're getting, and we're working with the towns and municipalities and school boards. So I'm working on how to. To make those hybrid meetings. So we've been doing a lot of testing out there. In trying to get set up so that the meetings can be. Hybrid and the people that are used to are able to join. Virtually will be. Continue to do so. Most of them. I think almost 100% of them. Have asked to somehow incorporate it and continue that on. Which is something that I was, I'm not surprised of. I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised. Which is, you know, suspected that that would be the case. People do enjoy it. So in terms of what it looks like on the screen. So I. So each one's a little bit different. We're still doing some tests. So like Thursday. And this is getting off on the financials. But like. We're on and off. Sorry. So for instance. The Montpelio Roxbury school board. We have talked about different options, but what we're really talking about now is something that we're talking about. We're talking about. What we're talking about. What we're talking about. What we're talking about. With the meeting. We would take the camera. And incorporated into. The laptop. So that the feet for the zoom room. Of the, with the actual members of the board. Would be our camera and our audio. Mostly for the live ones for the non-live ones. We would send a camera operator. Captured the live event. And then in the same way that we would do. We would in prior time, we would take PowerPoint slides and we would take a look at. The virtual participants. In all productions. So. No, the, the expenses, the, is the man and woman power to go out and shoot. You can get the camera. So mileage comes back into play. Hours. As before. You know, we can have one staff person capturing five remote meetings. Here at the. Our facilities. That's not the case. Speaking of which, um, and this maybe belongs under old business. What do I need to do to, um, get the EC fiber meetings covered? Cause there are millions and millions of dollars being raised. C. Yeah. Okay. Later. We'll put it up. I'll put a note to get to your response there. Yeah. Sorry to be a topic cop. Um, I don't know. Greatest and greatest on that. Um, we did retire the, uh, loan. Hey, whoa. Yeah. Let's celebrate with pizza. Yep. Excellent. Uh, and I did go down and we have, uh, we have the type work to get my name on. What month was that? I went down and met with. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. 2021. $60,000. I don't think everything just says it's 60. Yeah. Now. That's that. Yep. Was it 60. 60,000. Original one. Yeah. The one we're talking about. 72. Originally. I thought it was a five year 60. I thought it was a five year 60. Let's put my memory. May of 2021. Yep. This is ordinary currency. We're not. No. Hey, pal. And how much. Is our account worth. If you. Be in the neighborhood. Let me run against most recent statements. I now started reading by statements. I was right back. Actually, it should be about. I'm just. Trying to think. Check drop. A little bit. This is fall January. I. September. Sorry to be a few minutes late. We had some network instability. Rebooted the route. Sorry to be a few minutes late. Sorry to be a few minutes late. Sorry to be a few minutes late. Sorry to be a few minutes late. Sorry to be a few minutes late. Sorry to be a few minutes late. Sorry to be a few minutes late. Sorry to be a few minutes late. Okay. So these are the. Network instability. Rebooted the router. Glad to see you all. I'm getting the latest average. Well, I guess just heads up and then. Dave, myself and Carlos. Participated and Robbie about. That document is available. But I do think in the executive director's report. or the changes. So, when you do the executive director's evaluation, it's often it's a lot like doing the organization. So, some of this will have a ripple effect that I hope doesn't bear fruit. All right. So, at the current value as of the end of May, which is in the recent statement that I have 311,480 dollars and seven cents. Better than I was thinking. This is an increase of over 300 straight up savings. Yeah. So, this is an increase in the last in the month of May of 3,265 dollars, you know, over the course of the five months of this year, we've increased it's seen an increase in 2014. So, when did the last quarterly check? That would have been May. Was it May? Not much time to burn into that. So, like increasing that. Well, I've been thinking. So, the job I used to have at RTC, we got COVID money. Yes. And some of that was spent on like froggy, the radio station doing social media. And I'm like, man, COVID money for froggy doing social media for us. I'm assuming some of this bump up is COVID money. Yes. Can we straight-face say, yeah, that was COVID money spent on COVID things. Yeah. So, it's a reimbursement grant from COVID from the Federal Bill. So, we had to document expenditures on COVID related and then they reimbursed us. And we got the full amount dispersed across all the access centers, which were not similar to 18,000 dollars. The full amount. So, there was a large grant for the access centers across the state. Oh. And did it up between 25 of them and 24 of them. But it's on size? No, it was just equal. Really? So, Brewington got what? Well, some of them were not able to have expenditures. We're not able to account for, the bigger ones were, you know, it was evenly divided. And the bigger ones were able to, we put in our second invoices. I think came in about 16,000, but we didn't have each other. So, what energy did you put in? You said you put in invoices. To what entity did those invoices go? Oh, it was submitted. It was submitted to Van, which submitted the whole thing to the state. So, it was on umbrella? Okay. So, the final Van report, all these different units and how they use the COVID. Then, right. Did you get a copy of that? I don't know, but I have to copy that. Okay. Because that's up. I think it's important to make sure that it's accurate, too. Yeah. That might be a stimulus. Yeah. Van's accounting of all that. I'm just saying, yeah, there may be, you know, an accountability piece that comes down the road of like, okay, what did you do with your federal dollars? Yeah, I don't want to say we did froggy, froggy. No, it wasn't social media. I know. It was very much stress at this documentation for the senator to have to be kept for five years and well done. Rob, how much was it again? Did Orca receive from COVID relief? Very good question. They don't have the exact number, but it was 18,000 plus across all. And everybody got the same? Yes. Those who documented the expenditures. Yeah. Some people didn't, weren't able to document that. That was like a cap and wait that's the cap. And I'm sure that the bigger accessors, I think our first round, and we did two rounds, our first round, we came up with 16,000. Tim, what were the COVID expenses? Mostly personnel. So it was a lot of it was press conference. It was time staff spent on getting the work remotely and setting up. So we tried to figure out how much of it we made our educated guess is to say 50% of this person's time went to COVID related expenses. So I think, you know, Jen's time, particularly since she was doing 19, setting up for the mobility capacity for the course of time and her content, since she's a content manager. So I think we, looking at the numbers, you put her up about 50% of her salary during the time. What was the main check? I don't know. Heaked at 105 in 2019 or 2018? Yeah, they were going down for a while. But last time I was here, they seemed to hit a 495. People signed up for cable. Cable we had something to do with it, but if you wanted those unforeseen consequences, a lot of people started watching. The last check was May. So yeah, it's March. That's where we got the marketer in, in May. So was that right? There's that kind of a lot. Yeah. So we're finished this day in the March and we get it month and a half later. And somebody leaves. Do we have some kind of Cobra expenses? Sorry about the staff? Yeah, if somebody leaves the staff to leave, is there a Cobra? It's a belong here. We need pay for it. So for my health connects better, way better. No, I don't have a password. So for operating, we got 92,150,970. And for capital, 16,588,76. And that should be an increase because last time we got the last quarter it was 87,665 for operating. So almost $5,000 more. So a bit of a cut up. Okay. So we do have this paradox where COVID created automatic bike buckle tightening because we couldn't send live people to do live things. But then we also got this COVID benefit. So it's a plus and a plus on both sides. What month do we pay the same rent again? No, we pay rent for this facility. What's the time when the old rent expires and the new one begins? So each year there's a sit on the calendar year like January? No, March 1st. And so was there any boost in our rent? There was. March 2020 was day one. So what was that? No, it's not severe at all. Okay. I just was curious. No, it's a great question because we are just getting a point. Yeah. And then whatever shape the landlords in might affect the rent. Thank you. Because it's changed hands 20 times since I lived here. Yeah. So that's a new president. What's that? Yeah. That's a new president. Like I read the expensive drug. And then they've had to figure out their remote life. But they have a residency model where people come like a couple weeks a year. So I think they didn't have that hard of time flipping it to fully. They're doing that at all the small colleges. Yeah. Remote courses and you've got to come to campus for a couple of weeks. They have not invited a cohort back here yet. For a residency or? I thought there was. There was. They've had a life. Yeah, I thought there was when a few just a few weeks ago to say it's do you know anything? Because I mean we're chopping at the bitter. Is there a sort of a CFA newsletter that tells you the answer to these questions? If there is, I'd love to be on the emails. Because it means so in some sense how MCFA goes as an impact on how perfectly. Yeah. Yeah. And if residencies are up and running with live, you know, artists, writers and stuff. I would really hope we can. Yeah. Putting those things together. Make that real. That's really exciting. And we can also promote the positiveness of that kind of an arrangement. Benefiting us, but also identifying fine arts. So, Rob, you don't know they've had a first residency yet? Could you check? Because I know there are locations where literature shows up for this third week of July or whatever their offerings are. And they, in normal times, those people show up and poetry readings and this and that. And I do know like Chris, our former employee, is captured some of that stuff. He does. But that stays in-house as opposed to our, I would imagine there's some distribution. Right. I don't know if that's a conversation with Chris or, yeah, but getting a sense of their distribution and how we can enhance their distribution. Yeah, they already have a place. And I would really like to see either Rob or some of us be able to meet the new president. Yeah. And I'd like to go into things again. I'd like to have a meeting with Pope Coy. Yeah. His name is Pope Coy. In terms of this conversation? Just early. H.O.C. O.R. Yeah, the new president of Goddard. Oh, Goddard. Yeah. Yeah, if you want me to do this. Yeah, so I would see Pete. I just think it's important to find out who we are and what we're doing, and that we have a common interest. All right, I can check. Yeah, I can keep stationing out if you have questions. And they sold GDR, you know, and so. Yeah, they've separated. It's an important thing to have us, I think. Yeah, I agree. We can meet that new president. I'll invite Chris. So the Chris and the manager of GDR would be good for that. Groom. Groom, yeah, of course. Thank you. Chris has actually been asking to get into this video, because this is a shooting video. I want to see the trains. Oh, cool. Yeah, they're called, essentially, from my community right now. Yeah. It helps GDRs. Yeah. Yeah. And we had Lou come and talk about that, right? Yes. And Lou and I, you know. So you're still in touch with GDR? So Lou and Chris and the woman who did help set up the radio station in Brompton, and was involved with Prometheus Radio in the thousands of it. I've been meeting, you know, every month, two months or so, to talk about this, this opening for a place for a radio station. And then incidentally, and anecdotally, on Friday, BPR was here and took their antennas down out of this building. That has just been, they were like 94 points, something. Yeah. One of their boosts. 94.1. So they don't have a, they do. They put their antennas now up on National Life. Is that 99.5? 94.1. 94.1. So it's up on National Life. That's pretty good. Yeah. So they, you know, BPR, so they worry that, you know, there might be antennas here that would interfere with the one that put it in. No, I got it. The other thing that's sort of another adjunctive thing into this area is that, you know, Kent Squires is having his 90th birthday for the station, but they're doing a whole lot more community radio news than they've ever done before at DEV. And they're on 24 hours a day. Yeah. And they're commercial. And that's amazing. So I like to know sort of who's running that. Is it the, that's running it? So we're, for financial reports, we're wildly up to offer. Let me just get back to what we want to give the question. 20. Red, thank you. Increased by just under $80 a month. That's pretty good. And what was it? Well, we already did it in March 2020. It was $2,566 a month. And now we're up to $2,643. That's really good. These types, that's not that. That's not like, it's just compared to city center. Oh yeah. City center is turned into some kind of disaster. It goes down. Yeah, I know. Our throwing our money this way really has an impact on the sustainability of this college and the whatever mess they got down there. We're very lost. Good luck. The food co-op. That's a huge, I think, slam into the hole for a renaissance and bury. Is that the same landlord? I don't even know what the landlord aspect that it was, but the people that invested their money and time in it, had a big vote. And then overwhelming, they voted to discontinue that. Rob, is there anything else you'd like to highlight? No, I think I'm on the financial reports. Good with the financial. I'm sorry about the tensions. So now we've been used. There's been a thread running right through it. I can see the thread. But if there are other questions to entertain concerning finances, topic being finances, now's the time and or I'll entertain a motion. Just one. Your name has been added to the evidence account. Will be once we get the documents back to the note signatures before you leave tonight. I need your signature on that. OK. The other signature need to be on it. And nobody's has been taken off. No. I did see Bill Doyle about three weeks ago. Wow. I don't know. I don't. I do remember Bill Doyle's. Yeah, I suspected it. My where is he? Yeah. Where do you see him? He's at his house. He's at the Mayo Clinic. I can't call him at the Mayo Clinic because. Oh yeah. Out in Northfield. Out in York. Yeah. No good word out there. I think. What's that? OK. Actually, if I had to end up in a place, by now I've seen that. Yeah. I think the Mayo would be around. But he has that. Did you just show up? Or did you have to call his wife? Or how did I call up the Mayo Clinic? And I told him I was Mike Doyle. And I told him to see Bill. It worked. You see, I saw that. Did you see him after that? His son, about 60 years old, 65 maybe. He had, was, if you know what, kayaking. And around here, had an accident kayaking. And about three years later, three days, three weeks. You can see why I'm getting away from this. Three weeks later, died from. Preparatory injuries that were suffering. He was in that kayak. Do you think Bill has awareness that he lost his son? Yeah, he does. But there's still an awful lot of, it's not a, not a subject to what he can imagine. Mike, I want to get into. I'll leave your screen. I don't know exactly where he is. I am under the impression she is at home. And I think, you know, probably has people taking care of her. But I mean, she's at home. And he does remember. Is there anything he needs that's, any of us could, I don't know, we're cheering up or anything. Was he, was he verbal? Now, if anybody ever asks the same question about me, Bob Whiskey. Were words coming out of him? I mean, like, yeah. And he still sounded, you know, still sounded like good old Bill. He sounded like Bill. But I just kind of had this very, just in feeling like he didn't really know exactly why. He just needs someone to kind of push him around the building on a nice day. He must have been psyched to see you. What's that? He just must have been psyched to see you and be able to interact. Yes. Yeah. Because he's an incredibly social person. He had a real gift, you know. Well, he's actually in a fairly good place for a social person to be having. They've just got all kinds of people there. And they're all moving and activity. They're interacting and doing stuff like that. Yeah. Thank you for that. So we can, we want more comments if you guys don't have any other questions. We do have to clear up the banquets. I think we do have to clear up the banquets, the checking, obviously, because I think John Stoner, we definitely need to take care of that. Okay. And I don't know. Which care facility is Bill at? A Mayo in Northfield. Ah, that's why the Mayo discussion. Thank you. Good to know there's a good one. This will be for old business, but I spent an hour interviewing some of the people here in Vermont about elder care for the elder care series, which I'm hoping will start not too long from now. Great. I was actually thinking of bringing like a go pro to visit Bill to see if you want to say anything, but bringing a little camera, a little baby camera, a little video. I wouldn't want to spray. Yeah. We're saving. Thank you. Right. Yeah, I know you might just shine with it. You know, Bill was, I wonder if we could do a little recording. This is not, this is off topic for the meeting, but we could do a little recording after the meeting closes, just all of us saying hi to Bill. Be fine. That would be nice. That would be nice. Shall we approve the financials so we can loosen up the conversation? All right, Mike D has moved to approve the financial reports. Is there a second? Sue has seconded the approval of the financials. All those in favor of accepting the financial reports, please indicate by saying hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. That's a unanimous acceptance of the financial reports. We can move into a more robust open conversation with the executive director's report, which Rob has gracefully provided. So the first item on my report we've already touched on, which is staffing and, you know, the changes that are happening now have come out of the pandemic. I do have a note that I am on vacation next week. And we'll be on the Jersey Shore. The South Jersey Shore? That's good. Morning at light. Where? Morning at light, which is Long Beach Island. Oh, Long Beach Island. Yep. Yeah. Now South of Atlantic City. No, I swam there on the heavy switch season. They actually sent a lifeguard out. Did they catch it? Well, you know, I was just having... It was a hard time to get back in. The water was kind of swammy. Yeah, yeah. They looked at the bottom part and they said, this young buff of guy out to grab me. And then finally, I said, we just went over. I said, you know, we're in pretty good shape. Just backing up the staffing. Staff evals are complete and Rob's evals. Yes. And then the Vermont Youth Documentary Lab is going gang busters right now. So I saw a lot and no small part due to the work that Chris was doing. We had originally budgeted out $7,000. So we're hoping to make that some donations, sponsorship as well as the participants. Although participants, we aren't doing this donation based only and we have suggested a donation of up to $350. We have a number of participants who have signed up and have pledged donation. They haven't actually executed the donations, although I think we did get our second one today. Rob, a question here. Have you, in terms of donations and grants for some of these kids, have you been contemplating racial equity and, you know, disparity in between your poverty, you know, so you can meet those check marks and making sure you have diversity. A group is diverse enough. I would say absolutely, but I'll let Christopher answer that. Sure. Yeah. I can speak to that a little bit. Part of the, you know, initial idea was to always keep this, you know, free and sliding scale based. Yeah. And so we've done, you know, we've done our best. I think we could learn a lot more as far as, like, reaching out into, you know, the community members in Montpelier and Central Vermont. And, but, yeah, we have worked with, like, Montpelier High School to, you know, get the word out and let people know that it is free, that it is, you know, we want to make it accessible. Part of, you know, the big news, you know, is the, yeah. So I'll take that second. So one of the things is that Christopher did apply for a grant from after school or the summer matters 2021 grants that came from the federal government. And part of that grant is the idea that you're expanding the program to communities that are not necessarily served and reaching out to those communities. So I think that's part of the work that Christopher and I have been working on to try to expand the program to tap into this money that's been granted from this federal money. So that's an important role in grant money, kind of, Carlos. So that's, you know, we're obviously keeping an eye on that, trying to find out ways to tap into those communities. You know, I would say that I believe Christopher's having trouble. It's a very fun, I mean, there's not a lot of population that's been tapped into it. Yeah. I mean, I will say that I feel fortunate to just have friends and colleagues in the area that are, you know, racial justice activists, that are, you know, people of color, are, you know, one of our neighbors is Noelle Ruby Williams, who's the young organizer that brought the Black Lives Matter flag to the Montclair High School. She organized the Honor of Their Names protest and rally at the State House. So she's been super helpful. She's the one that actually connected us with the, it's like the career advancements person at the Montclair High School. So, you know, we've expressed to her our interest in encouraging, you know, BIPOC youth to be there. The other thing is, you know, we have colleagues at Microjustice and I've worked with Microjustice for years on and off and try to support them with media work. And then our friend and colleague is Henry Harris, who runs the Grassroots Center in Marshfield. So we'll be there with him kind of doing this part of expanding our workshops and programs. We'll be doing a kind of a video activism workshop at his youth. It's called the Uprise Camp in Marshfield in July. So yeah, and he's the Grassroots Center in Marshfield. It's done awesome work over the last three years. This will be their third year just encouraging BIPOC mentors for youth. So bringing in people not just from Vermont, but from the region and even around the country. They've brought in a lot of artists and there'll be people visiting and working for the camp this summer. So it's going to be, yeah, it's cool. There's a lot of like intersectional work. Yeah, what are calendar dates? So actually I have a bunch of stuff. So that's locked in. That'll be the last week of July. The third week of July will be at, I mean, you don't mind jumping in yet, but the third week of July will be at Channel 17. It was just now time in TV in Burlington. So we're just doing a small, like a day camp there, Monday through Friday. Well, that's a Monday through Friday in Burlington. Yeah. So it's kind of a partnership with Channel 17. They asked us that. So who you're serving there? Ages and locations? Yeah, so it's, the theme is really like focusing on the old North End. So, you know, that has been historically, you know, one of the most diverse and low income areas. That was Burlington. Yeah, big Italian. Yeah, it's beautiful. How did that partnership come to be? Because it sounds like things are moving fast. Yeah, things are moving fast. Well, as you know, that the whole time I've been employed with Orchid, that's also, you know, I was full-time at Channel 17. So that back in 2015 to 2017, that was, yeah, Megan's now the channel director. She asked if we can kind of do like the hybrid version of what we're doing in August. So the kind of the meat of the program is here in August, four weekends in August. Right. We're doing that. So I was just, I was going to ask like, was your originally envisioned budget and number of students you'd serve? Yeah. Plus the COVID money, now you've got to expand. This is that expansion? This is all about expansion? Exactly. Really, this is all the expansion beyond the original August program. I mean, we're kind of... So could you start with the original August? Sure. So the original August and dates and who you're serving. And then let's grow out where, because we've got to like now expand up. Yeah. Okay. So just to give you like the original words, this very campus. Exactly. So it's going, that's still here. Saturday and Sunday? Saturday and Sunday, two sessions. So with the session one in the morning is ages 11 to 14. The second session is going to be ages 15 to 19. The, that session's full with 10 students, 10 participants. The 15 to 19, 10. Yeah, 10 and 10. But we only have six in the younger youth group. So that's decent. That's great. Yeah. So... And now we'll see, that's the core. That's what it started as. So now we've got a one week day camp in Burlington. Yeah. So that was, that was kind of, that was I think going to happen regardless of being awarded the grant. So that was kind of the original conversation is that, you know, in the vision too to back up a little bit was that this would be something that could be taken to other access centers. And that's still... Yeah. Yeah. They'd be sharing a curriculum. Exactly. And then, you know, But the nuts and bolts of third week, Monday through Friday, it's like a nine to three thing. How many folks we serve? So that's six. We have five so far. And yeah, so that's the two. I would say that those are the, those are the, the video production that, you know, we're going to, we have a curriculum of just producing a short documentary, right? And it's really, so I could share the curriculum when that's ready to be shared too if you're interested. So that's where it started. We applied for the grants. The intention in applying for the grant was that we would expand to operating, you know, it would cover my time, right? And Taylor Mufili, my partner, it would fund also a stipend for Dave Littlefields. So we have like kind of three instructors, right? Beyond me. And then we would offer photography, which is not what we're doing. And I'll get to that. We'd offer a post-production class, which hopefully we'll be doing. And then maybe kind of a shorter version of what we're doing for the longer summer camps, right? So maybe like a three-day workshop. And those are water-grain, Randolph targeting? Yeah, so that's targeted. Exactly. So it's not set in stone, but so then the kind of connection. So we were awarded the grant, right? So now we're just like hustling to get things on the calendar and organizing to, you know, find dates for that and to start promoting stuff. Okay. I have a question. I'm sorry. Can I just hold on a minute? So my question is, what is the grant called and, you know, how much money did we receive for the grant? Sure. So it's Vermont Afterschool Summer Matters. So Vermont Afterschool is like the grant manager, the facilitator of the federal dollars. The grant is a reimbursement grant and it's $23,900. So it's pretty good, you know, and we don't necessarily, there's like probably 4,000 of that is rental. So I don't know if we're going to be spending that. We're not quite sure if we want to rent classroom space and things like that. So, you know, as I said, it's reimbursements. And yeah, I can share that budget with you guys too. So I know like in terms of Randolph getting a whole like the fraction apartment, which runs through the program would be really good if you're going to nail down a three-day workshop in late August or mid August. But the original Montpelier vision of just prior to COVID money getting dumped on us, what was just scale-wise, $23,000 compares to originally what kind of money we were going to be taking. By just $7,000. $7,000 was going to be the thing. And you personally raised $54,50. So what's your secret there? I'm good. I don't know. I got the touch. So you basically shrunk it down to a $2,000 program for Orca. Well, the thing is COVID money went down upon. I'm also raising two kids. And I'm trying to make sure that I'm paying myself. I'm making sure that we're thinking about the futures. We're trying to create a sustainable thing where it's not just Orca paying for this every year. I'm also thinking about how we can, I believe in it. So I'm also trying to think like logistics, how is it going to happen? Right? So it's become, I think, what I know about community access is and then connected with what we can bring in. So we purchase some used equipment. We just purchased two refurbished MacBooks. So we can actually have a little field editing station. And I can get into that. So what was your pitch in the North country in natural life and some kind of like, you got your foot in the door and said, what? I mean, just getting your foot in the door is hard. Yeah, I think that. And yeah, you're right. I mean, a lot of them were applications. So the way that, as you know, national life funds a lot of local community engagement efforts. And so that was an application process. It was a lot of writing. I was just trying to be thorough and write the story. So it's a lot of narratives. You share your budget, same thing that we're doing here. And it's almost like applying to any other grant, but you're applying for a sponsorship. So that they look at that and they award it as they. Yeah. So then you ask for a certain amount, right? Yeah, same with North country. That's how that was. That was an application process. Some common was just a series of conversations, which is really great because so that's kind of the third piece that we didn't discuss yet. Is that some common was really enthusiastic from the beginning. So I had kind of several conversations with them and it started off as just asking them for, Hey, do you want to be a corporate sponsor and, you know, and, and throw us some money and work, you know, we're trying to buy some used equipment. We're trying to offset the cost to the students to pay for the instructors so that the students don't have to pay. And so they wanted to have a conversation about like more like partnership and ideas about bringing what we're doing to Waterbury, because they also already have this, this arts and media like elements. So they're, they're organizing what they call, it's called the Climate Action Film Festival. And that'll be in its third or fourth year this year. So that's the exciting part. So we already got this in the bag is that everything that we produce this summer with the youth is going to be shown at the Climate Action Film Festival. When is that? So that's in March. So that'll be beautiful. So that's their, that's what they hope to do is kind of act as like this like co-producer to some of the work that we're doing. And so they're not just running a check. Yeah, exactly. And they, and that's really exciting because they have a huge space in Waterbury that, you know, the, the mission of Orca and the service area of Orca, you know, it's like we want to be in Waterbury. So that's exactly that. Is that a Waterbury anchor? Yeah, we just need to get some dates on the calendar. And actually we have like four events that were, that I'm kind of hashing out with them. And a lot of them was, there's their idea. They want to have a screening and a fundraiser at their space. You know, they want to bring some bands in. So it's taking all. Yeah, it's great. And then just scale wise, the original seven grand is now like 30 grand. So you got to like four times scale up. You got to scale up. It's kind of wild. Yeah, how fast it's grown. I apologize. So the, we did exactly right. So we've scaled up quite a bit and quickly, but. So they're staffing and finding customers. And just so you're aware. There's a deadline too. So all the expenditure has to be down to three, four September 15th. Yeah. So of course, you're from really close to the spot. Right. And then we are saying it's a summer program. It's a summer program. So Christopher, you, the small group that's only six, if you come into the meeting and have it, and it's only then seven, could you take three fresh air kids in? Sorry, sorry, what's fresh air? What is? Those are the kids that come from the big city to get out of the city. Sure. And spend time with the family. I would love that. Yeah. And that seems like that would be another mix. Yeah. Do you have contacts with fresh air folks? No, but I know there's a program because there's some people that have. Yeah. I heard about it for years. I don't know what channel. Well, I think the rigging of the block hits up. It's still going. Yeah, that would be great. So it's a great idea. I mean, I think the more, the more connections, the better. And I think, you know, actually what's really exciting is like, there's been a lot of really shared enthusiasm. So that's been the support, you know, has kind of gotten the ball rolling, you know, for Taylor and I, who have kind of developed this idea. It's been super exciting. Yeah. So yeah. And I think that exactly like the money for the arts was there, the money to help nonprofits was there. And so yeah, it's a little unclear about where work begins and ends in this because you've got stuff going on in Burlington. And that's in their area. Yeah. And Waterbury and Randolph are also orca area. But because, I mean, as Mike pointed out, the scale of its quadrupled, what's our, you know, is there a liability for us? Yeah. Maybe I might have Rob speak to that a little bit, but it just, you know, my first response would be that, you know, that it is a project, you know, that's the way I'm looking at it. It's a project of orca media, right? That I've kind of, you know, brought to us. Yeah. So it's a project that's housed within Orca Media. So it's a separate project. It's not taking cable phones, you know, other than what maybe Orca's, you know, you may be on offer. It's self sustained, which would certainly, you know, be within, be able to be justified based on the fact that we have the program that we're doing here in the served area. But, you know, I'm not the liability. I'm not sure that there would be any liability. You know, we've certainly gone into, I mean, you're talking about insurance-wise or covered. No, not so much that. I was just thinking about, you know, if the program, right now there's lots of energy for the program, but people get tired, and there are only three of you running it, and it's big, and it is widespread. So if you get tired in, you know, December, it's sort of responsible for seeing it through something. Right. That's a great question. And I think that I, you know, I mean, yeah, I mean, I think it's like with anything, right? That's the nature of that, you know, the non-profit arsenal is that you want to create a sustainable program that, so it's like, yeah, I might be passionate about it, but if I walk away from it, you know, you want to create some kind of like system in place. That's the perspective. Yeah, but I think, you know, I can only speak for myself that I, you know, committed to seeing it through and to keep it going. And, you know, in, like, to put it into perspective, like, it's going to come down to, like, we're probably at, like, eight different events, right, that are, that are happening between now and September 15th. So I think, you know, hopefully we could handle it, and, you know, we're excited about it. Because our obligations, as far as we are, are really kind of done on September 15th. So I mean, anything beyond that, we have to reevaluate it, about how we can sustain it, and how we can raise money for that as well. And then following some of the, we should find out an evaluation in the final. That's a great idea. Yeah. We also should remember the Union River runs through Waterbury and Burlington. But I mean, But in terms of service area, that's a good question. You mentioned Marshfield, which is sort of kin here, but technically in our service area. What was the Marshfield piece again? So that's the Grassroots Center. It's a, Is that materialized into, like, these days this week, like, is that nailed down? So that, yeah, that's the third. Sorry, that's uncountable. That's the last week of July. Yeah, July. So third week of July is the Old North MPs. And then fourth week is in Marshfield. And you hope to serve. There's going to be probably 20 campers there. And, you know, their day camp for the week. It's an overnight camp. Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. So that's already happening. That's already happening. You're coming in and doing workshops. You're in or pre-built things. Yeah. So somebody else is running the camp. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's Grassroots Center. So you're a special guest star. That's actually how we've envisioned it from the beginning, is that, you know, whether it's a large corporation like Suncommon or a kind of scrappy nonprofit on a farm, like, you know, Grassroots Center, is that we are able to kind of, like, show up and do what we do and partner with them and have youth make media that is, you know, focused on nonfiction arts. Great. Sounds fabulous to me. So you sound like Waterbury's nailed down, too, but Randolph is still... So that's a great, yeah. Maybe, you know, you could be of that. Or between, like, Chandler and the Reptile Department. If you see the space, and as soon as we have a space, and I also thought that the library, too, was talking about. Yeah, and Kimball. In library? Or Randolph. I can get on the bike and visit all three of them. And you're only going to have a third week of August at this point. Like, can you send me your calendar and just, like, I'm assuming you get this locked out? I do, yeah. Yeah, so I'd be happy to, yeah. And there's options to keep it going after school into the first few weeks of September. Sure. A weekend since September. It's three to five. Three to five. I don't think you can count on this, but it's true. They also have their big folks. That's right. I think, yeah, they're going to try to squeeze some stuff in. Yeah. Like, the new world. That's it, yeah. So a lot of people are there. I'll bet. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah, it's pretty exciting. So it's way bigger than the original vision, which itself is pretty ambitious. Thank you. Very exciting. And we'll kind of just try to move to a college campus. Yeah. And that. Yeah, and that. What an anchor here. And he talked about, yeah, there's an extra classroom across, you know, something like, we luckily, we do have some money in the budget. It's just a screen rental space. Or, you know, I mean, it was even like, in broad picture thinking of being able to, maybe if this, we are able to sustain it, wouldn't it be nice to make, add that classroom and there's a lab that resides within the order. So like, you know, this is dreaming kind of stuff. Yeah, exactly. You know, but this is like, we're going to go that far and start thinking about it. And just on another note on my ability with, you know, when Christopher and I first started talking about it, it was something that we thought we could bring to other access centers across the state. You know, this would be a project or program that would be able to travel. So I don't think it's any of the abilities that are associated with that, that are restricted. Access centers that are, that's right. Lots of access centers are doing camps that you try to touch base with youth. And this is something that, you know, that we talked about that never able to really brought to fruition because energy and infrastructure shows up with it's plan three, you can't put in the plan. Yeah. No, Chris, do you have a Monday to Friday night at five? I do. Yeah. So you've gauged how many hours there are in a week? How many hours you've got to sleep? Yeah. And this is within functionality. Yeah. I mean, I'm, I feel like I have a lot of energy. So, you know, and I, This is motivated like I'll be, so I'm going to, yeah, it's good. We're, we're ready. Yeah. And the other thing is it's like, you know, we, what we really love about this is that it's like, it's, it's our own thing that we've created. So it's like, you know, we believe in it and we, and we want to, you know, have to see it be successful and make some, you know, great connections with youth and makes some new. Do you see a need to hire more staff with this as long as you pace out the weekends correctly? Yeah. I think, I think for now we'd like to keep it, you know, within the, the budget that we've prepared for the grant. And then I think anything's possible, you know, going forward. I think that looking at it again in the fall, and I think that it's, it's, what's super exciting is that Son Common kind of wants to, like, celebrate it at their space in the fall or the winter. And I think that would be a really, you know, the idea of like having the families and the youth show up to a fundraiser and the, the film festival is really exciting too. So they have something to look forward to and they feel like, you know, their work is on display. It's exhibited next to like professional work. Can I, I, this is, can I say I interject here and this is super thought for the future, but in the nineties, my first job working at a, I worked at a nonprofit and it was basically multimedia journalism workshop and they were bringing kids from schools, kids with kids with kids would come in like once a week and they would spend, you know, like two hours getting workshops, you know, and this was, so it was connected to the department of education. So that's something that we don't have here in Vermont per se. I mean, we have, we have career centers, right? But that's for high school, but imagine for middle school, elementary school kids coming in like once a week or every other week, just to take one workshop, even if it's just a service area is Mount Pilger, you know, the middle school and the elementary school, they come in one day for two hours, they get a little workshop and then you build on that, right? And at the end, there's, you know, there's a presentation, a little video that they put together and we could lend them the cameras because we used to do that. I did that in Puerto Rico in the nineties. No, that's, that's, that's fantastic. And I think that, you know, the dream is that this could maybe even become a full-time job for us. For the city. Yes, and you know, I mean, I love the, my current company, but it's like, this is kind of what I'm passionate about. So it's like, if this, if that could grow into what you're saying, you know, and like Rob has been supportive and we like had a great meeting with wide angle youth media in Baltimore, and I've done a lot of research and like reading about similar programs that have grown and like how and what they do now and how a lot of that's what you're saying is that's exactly happening in places like New York City in Washington DC and in Baltimore. I was just going to add that I suspect that Christopher would take, you know, would be amenable to the idea of doing this whole time. Yeah. And that, you know, I've been impressed with just how much money is available for you programs. And I've heard when I talked to people who are fundraisers that youth, when you say youth, it's just like an automatic, you know, there's, there's money there. And Christopher's been able to find it. So yeah, I mean, and that's, it comes from a place of like Taylor and I, you know, we grew up as artists and didn't have any, we didn't have opportunities like this. And it's like, and we were kind of, you know, that's the thing. It's like creating things that we feel like would have really propelled us and really accelerated our, our, you know, personal. So yeah. With that September 15th kind of window, you do have some overlap with the school here. Yeah, maybe that's a way to play around with what a year, you know, during the not summer would look like. Yeah. And I don't know if you guys are familiar with Carlos, maybe, maybe you've met, she's at U32. And her, she's the photography teacher, she teaches digital photography. And it was her idea initially when I kind of was pitching this last year to U32 and to Montpelier High School and kind of, you know, with, with like kind of as a program of ORCA saying that maybe we would come in there and like the school would fund it and kind of just throwing out ideas and she was ready to go. She was saying that, you know, that's something that we could do during the school year is that we kind of do a workshop at the school. We come in because there's no video, there's no video production at U32 at all, but there's plenty of kids that have shown interest in filmmaking. So yeah, that's, that's great. I think, I think, I think you should focus more on elementary school and middle school, more than the high schools. Because I think the principals of the high school, that, you know, they lose their students to career centers. And so high school has access to all that already, but the middle school, elementary school, they do not. Yeah, that's great. That's, I like that idea. I want to talk about films. I was involved with some of the people that were invented and discovered that research led to ACEs, the first childhood experiences now sweeping the state. I said, when you start this, make a movie. And they got Brad Hill, whatever his name is, to make a movie. Okay. And the movie now is helping them get door after door after door open. The whole health center at Plainfield may be going to reverse childhood experiences. Oh, wow. And so I'm just saying the film, some of the films that you're putting together, the kids do, but also the festival, that's uncommon does, all becomes a workshop in the training program. That's the proof for the pudding right there. To do this, they not only see an idea but they see the idea incarnate with all the crazy parts and all the interesting parts and all the learning moments. I was thinking, we're talking process, but there's going to be product. And if that's quality, it's going to be self-sustaining because you can show that to new donors. Well, holy cow, that is so good. I can't believe an 8th grader made that. And they're going to be writing checks. I think that's great. And that's exactly what we've been hearing to from other arts organizers and directors about that wide-angle media. It's like, if you can create a situation where they can accomplish something, that's a huge deal. So it's like that for us that we've been kind of wrapping our heads around and rewriting this curriculum to do just that, to create something that is more tangible. It's like, you're not going to, maybe this isn't going to be film school, but you're going to be able to have something at the end of it. So that's fair. Other pieces in our last board meeting, we, I think it was pretty unanimous, would like to have our open house annual meeting around the display of products. Great, yeah. So that would be late August or maybe even later. So we're going to want to time that with the goodies ready to be presented. And I do want to say this other piece that is now grown out of the grants is photography. And there's been a lot of interest from you in photography and Taylor is a master traditional film photographer. And it's like, I think that would be an awesome thing to do to have documentary photography being displayed from local youth photographers that took that one through. But we're thinking that our open house would include or tag on the whatever screening. Oh, sure, sure. Are you planning a big closed screening? I think there's so many parts now that there would be multiple. I think that the interest has been so great that it's just kind of navigating what is realistic for this year and how we can put it in with our schedule and what makes sense. It's like, so maybe like I said, a fundraiser at the end of it, a screening in March, but maybe also just like doing something here to kind of to show off this space too. So you expect like the end of the week and growing to be a pure product in the end of the week and March field or go ahead. No, I think that at the end of the summer we would we would have everything up on using channels up here. Yeah, it would be kind of all packaged together. So think about some sort of in-person best of screening that is folds into our annual meeting open house. Sure. Okay, and when is that in August? We left that day loose thinking like we have to build around what's happening here. That'd be great. Yeah, the last year, I don't know how we've been around to set for now, but the last thing I wanted to say or that I'm thinking of right now is that in having this conversation with you guys and realizing what a resource you guys are for this. At some point I talked to Christopher about saying you should talk to Carlos, you should talk to Michael because they're at their educators. Carlos was doing the film program and has an experience, even like Dave's experience of nonprofits and two experiences. This is a fresh air kid's idea. That's what I love about that. An opportunity to not have this conversation just stop until the next meeting. So if you're willing to let us reach out to you and if you're looking for the calendar blocked out in my email. Okay, and I know Carlos in particular. I am absolutely open to yes. And I know that there will be this for a few values. It's a good time for the board to step up actually because it sounds like holy cow. We just scaled up to a degree. We were nowhere near imagined. Yeah, and that's the thing. It's like I think because Orca has been so supportive because Rob has been so supportive, it's like the way I talk about it, it's like the Vermont Youth Documentary Lab of Worker Media. So it's like that's kind of how and even the website has been created so that it's like this is a project of Worker Media that is like run by Taylor and I and it's artist led educated. Yeah, so it's like I think that what for me that that makes sense. You know, so and yeah, we're gonna have t-shirts there. One of the advantages of the board is that there's a sort of historic, you know, there's a record of the history of similar undertakings in the past 20 years or so. You know, I did youth workshops at the workshops and Jake Graven did a lot. Oh, really? Yeah. In St. Jack. Yeah, and in other places. Was he public access connector? Or he was just doing his own thing? No, he was just doing his own thing. That's cool. Okay, yeah, as I mentioned too because it's only for Anna as a long history for a public black reason. Oh, is that right? Okay. Yeah. Do you know Henry Harris? No. I bet if you saw Henry Harris, he's probably at Grassroots Center. That's his operation. But he's probably 45 and he grew up in the kingdom and is connected to the Frederick of the World too. So yeah. And he was like the one on stilts at the pipeline protest. And yeah, so that's yeah. Yeah. So there is a whole new, you know, since my days, there's a whole new crew. It's amazing. Yeah. And that's actually what's inspired us is that like, you know, I'm 34 and watching 16 year olds already make the media and already do media activism. You know, it's like, we're just really, if anything, we're just giving them the tools and the space and kind of and facilitating it. So it's already there. Yeah. They are, it's true. They're already doing, they're already making film center on their phones. Yeah. Yeah. And they already have the politics, you know, so that's why it's like, I think centering social justice, centering, you know, climate justice has been, it's been easy to do. And it's been a big thing for us too. Yeah. There's, there was a guy named Will Landbeck, who was a American justice lawyer. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's still going. Is he? Well, I don't know. I got him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I was working with at Council 17. So Will and Kike, Enrique Velascar, they, they did the show together that I produced at, at Towneville TV. So his, his dad, Bernie Landbeck, is a film supporter. Oh, okay. That's good. And who might be good. Oh, he grew up in my hood. Will. That's right. Okay. Oh, I should, you should have to. I'm not, okay. Yeah. There's, it's, it's amazing for how small Vermont is, you know, it's like that, that this is, we've had the opportunity to forward to be so successful in year one and how much support it's been. Yeah. For a little state, we've always been able to punch with our evaluation. That's right. I know. Especially in the arts. And, and yeah, it's awesome. We're Van and Wood. Well, thank you guys. It's nice to hear your feedback. And, and yeah, it's. Oh, I'm really excited. Yeah. Put us to work. That's what we did. I mean, when this is done, we're going to have to have gear. Okay. Well, that's, that's the thing. We've got to have, you know, on my head. Oh, yeah. Frisbees for the other t-shirts. Or t-shirts. We only have a hundred budgeted for the t-shirts. Yeah. Okay. Well, t-shirts. We can have t-shirts. Yeah. So we have this beautiful hand drawing and like a camera and there's a power. Most of our time, we didn't have work at Pat's. We were pretty good. I still don't want to bring it. Oh, is that what you said? I said really see the open house built around us. We just like actually not just a handful of people talking about it. So they went to the, they were at the Juneteenth rally and I was there and I was saying, I want, I want, you need to have gear. They didn't know what I was talking about. I like that you said that. Yeah. I said, no, we call it a merch. Yeah, merch. Oh, yeah. For merch. Maybe that's good. Merch is a huge swag. I don't even know the right name. That's good. That's Canadian. Yeah, that's, that's what, yeah. Merch. Yeah. Merch. Well, we're getting t-shirts. Yeah. And then we're going to get, all right, that's cool. So he's like, we're just going to give them to the, the folks that, that's terrific. Yeah. Yeah. And Orca's logo, we're on there. We'll do this. We'll do this. We'll do this later. The main supporter. I have no idea. The goods also end up on, remember, television, like we'll be on the channel. Lock it out. That's another thing too, is that I think, you know, if that, you know, part of the thing is that we have, if we want to have this idea of like, autonomy and the work that you make. So it's like, if you, if you want your work to be exhibited, if you want your work to be on the, the statewide channel, we want to also have that opportunity for, for who kind of people that. We have to, who's our artist? I was just thinking we need a logo. How do we need an artist? I'm just thinking the shirts, that's something like, a whale with a camera on the top. You should have Taylor do it. Taylor instead. The Orca whale. There are some shirts. There are. Oh yeah. There's a lot of shirts. We just don't have somebody to put on my, on my Rolex yet now. I'm going to Orca with a camera. Well, whale. Yeah. This is wise. Yeah. You could pay her to do some hand-drawn stuff. She's great. Yeah. So Chris, you don't bounce. I don't probably do the full work, just like blocking out that this is July 3rd, week 4th. We sure, sure. This many that I kind of need like, or we're going to have to like get that. Yeah. Yeah. You know, on deadline, July 1st, July 2nd. That's our goal really, because we need to promote, you know, with the kind of the, the long happening blocks. We also want to have time to promote. And that's the other exciting thing about some comment, is that they have a reach, you know, on social media. They have, you know, so it's like they are a big company and they want to promote everything. They want to like ship. And they already have, they've promoted the stuff so far on Facebook. And that's really great. I can nail down the water barrier dates with them. So, actually, yeah, that's like we're going to see kind of, it's just the other night, I work on that by the end of this week. So Randolph-Salucis. Randolph-Salucis just because we don't have a space, but I think as soon as we, you know, if we could do one thing and Randolph this summer, that'd be nice. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Great. I just, still on the documentary lab or brought it down to the executive directors. Report more broadly. Why? So if we're done with that, I have another topic that I didn't report that came up the day that I came up here. All right. Everyone got a shift in topic. Rob wants to get us aware of. I'm already. So one of the things that's been going on with the band community is where you can, you don't have to be mistaken. Because, yeah, I, I don't know. You're welcome to. I won't be offended to get up and leave. You've already told us you have a lot of stuff. Rob starts talking and everybody gets up. I know. I'm not offended. Time for briefs. I'm not offended. So this has to do with the state of Vermont developed a 10 year telecommunications plan. And this is being shepherded by the public utilities commission. And they are in final draft hearings and they're having hearings tomorrow evening at six and Thursday evening at six. And the band community, the band leadership is expressing some concern about the process. And they're asking for people who would be willing to either show up with one of those hearings virtually. They are in person as well. But if you can get it by zoom and maybe express in the comments of which we do have an email with talking points that I would forward to you. So if there's, I said, if there's any board members, there, there are a number of you guys. And I, you know, I was looking at possibly CTSS in time or maybe Dave or any one of you who might be willing to do this. Happy to help. Okay. So what I'll do is tomorrow morning, I will try to forward the talking points to you guys and some specifics. As I said, the hearings are at six p.m. tomorrow and at the date and then Thursday. Are those links in the original email? I don't know if you said just me or everyone. I think it may send it to everybody. Okay. Are those, is this two six p.m. Links should be in there. But I will confirm that. Okay. But what I really do need to get is the talking points from Laura Glenn. So I will try to get that forwarded to you. Where are they at? During the meetings. At the public utilities commission, which is above the bank, right across from the million of the circle. So they, they're upstairs and it was called the Gigabit's Giga Room. And I don't know if any of you have been there or not. I'm sure CJ, you've been there. Haven't you at the PUC? At the PUC, I think my hearings were downstairs at the original VTA. So I'm not sure I have. That was a while ago, huh? Do they have a draft available on their tenure plans? Yeah. So this is the final draft. They've had a number of drafts. So this is the final draft. And I even heard today. So we're concerned the lack of peg in that mix or what's going on there? So I think the concern is, yeah, the, you know, the legislative had this committee that worked on sustainability, which is the report that came up and earlier this winter. And there is concern among the VAN community that they're not really addressing the recommendations that are in there. They sort of are giving lip service to the peg community, saying, it's great, it's wonderful, but there's not doing a lot of work on how do we get to the nitty-gritty of how do we sustain peg in a world where cable revenue is going to continue to diminish as people transition to other forms of distribution for video content. Can people in the VAN world suss out through these 10-year drafts on these 10-year plans where the state of Vermont thinks it's moving? I think it's just lip service to peg. I think it's the vision. I mean, this includes broadband. It's a lot of CUD and this communications district, a lot of broadband. And yeah, that's just mostly rolling out. Wire. Getting people connected. Like cultural infrastructure. Are they looking at that as well or it's more technical? Just to know how do we get high-speed internet to everybody in the state? One person that, yeah, so Holly Grossner joined EC-Fiber and started a political group for funding for low income. But to the point of funding peg stuff, as you know, I've been very interested in and we've talked in the board meetings a couple of times about what's going to happen as the providers monetize streaming content. And at this point, we've got a real glut of it. Netflix, Hulu, Prime, et cetera, et cetera. Plus Disney Plus, you can go. Yeah, exactly. The consulting, right. So the consulting report that you sent out a couple of, I guess now it's about a month and a half, two months ago, that was kind of long. It had a section on it. Do you have a current status? Because it's going to be sensitive. I mean, you know, essentially creating a draw on the monetization of content that might change the margins by a percentage pointer. So it'll be popular or not, but it needs to be done. DJ, these upcoming hearings Wednesday and Thursday just seem ideal for getting that on the table just to a broader audience than just us. Right. Tomorrow and Thursday and Thursday. And if you are unable to make that, you can submit written comments as well. Yeah, I know I can make that. I, you know that I've been conducting that aviation media event every Thursday night. It goes on for three hours. And Wednesday night is normally our, we call it a test flight where our presenters come on and, you know, we get them all settled in. So I can, let me just confirm that all of my presenters can do a 730 test flight. And then I'll have time at six, you said. Both nights, I don't know if you're talking about when they're Thursday, but it's six at both nights. Yeah, no, six Thursday. I'm definitely on because we open the meeting an hour early because we have people joining from all over the world. This is the media that we want to carry on Orca, by the way, because it's now 62 in the can recordings of content, you know, educational content for aviation. But Wednesday, I can do something. Yeah, I'm on, I can't do Thursday, but Wednesday looks good. I will do first thing tomorrow morning, I will shoot that talking points below event to you. All right. Yeah, I appreciate you did it. You can get some comments in it. More from the executive director's report, are we heading into the executive session? I think we're in the election. Well, shall we close? Before we go into executive session, I have a question. It's two questions. One is, well, first, Rob, would you mind texting you when you shoot that or so I'll know to look in my email. Second is, are we going to be more effective if we appear in person? And should I, like, wear something professional? I know it's Vermont, but... No, it's Vermont. Okay. You look, what you're wearing now is great. Okay, great. My versus remote, is it equally weighted? Yes. I think even a third to do it remote, they're still kind of wary of having people in place, but they understand by statute they have to. Good question. Okay, great. They're happy and I think prefer people remote. All right. And last question, do I want to, like, forgive me, this is not meant to be obnoxious. Do I want to give them, like, my professional background when I offer these comments or just throw them in? I don't see any reason not to. Give them, give them the whole... Yeah, give them the whole thing. I would do a succinct. I would do a succinct version of it. I mean, not the whole TV, but, you know, some give them some, some backgrounds that you're, you're free to be knowledgeable. So I think the first... Okay. Yeah, I guess... I can just name three positions and then that can be done in 10 seconds. So that's no problem. Okay, thanks. Sorry. I mean, certainly mentioned you're on the Oracle board. You know, that we're keeping doing with easy fiber and... Yeah, yeah. That's going to be good. And then the former CTO, CIO, Director of Business Development, and, like, cut a line under it at that. Okay. All right. Thanks. I believe it up to you to emphasize your particular... Excellent. Background. Okay. All right. Appreciate the guidance. I have a question. Should we accept the Executive Director's Report or is Executive Session within the Executive Director? I think the report's finished. Okay. So I would need a motion to close out the Executive Director's Report. Anyone else? Almost, yes. Are those some moves? And would Sue seconding that? Yeah. Thank you. All those in favor of accepting the Executive Director's Report as presented, please indicate by saying aye. And a vote. That's unanimous acceptance of the Executive Director's Report. And Rob's recently been undergone a painstaking evaluation of his performance here. And I will call Executive Session so that we can discuss. All right. It's been a whole business. So I think there was a question from CJ about covering the BC fighter. And I think, CJ, do you know if they've gone to in person now? Are they still doing Zoom to capture? The first in-person meeting is upcoming and but they will continue to do Zoom as well, I think. So the big thing is just I'm still willing to go and run a camera. And what do I need to do? Like, would it be enough simply to get Orca on the distribution list? Because that list, as far as I know, isn't exclusively board members. We should be able to keep non-board members who just are interested on the list. I'll get to the open meeting law. So we could be on the just... We do have a camera here that I think is not being used at all. So it could sit with you, CJ. CJ, we could get you on that camera and come in your package for... You could be in our southern region. So CJ, do you see Fiverr just getting just completely buried with COVID money? Are they just... Is it a windfall for them right now? It has been a windfall to some extent, yep. And they've hired a new COO. And he's... I was like, okay, he has no background in doing Fiverr, but he's there. And we are still... Anyway, so yes. Okay. I would think. Other old business? The only other old business is just... What do you want me to do to give you this pile of content if you still want it for all this aviation stuff? I would talk to the email back and find out how he wants that delivered. Okay. If you can have Zach contact me by text, I will help him... I'll help connect him with where the content is. And then we have a team that helps create that every evening and they can help him if there's any need for it. I'm just... I'm not sure how the process works. Like I know we did it with astronomy for everyone. Different methods, but we try to accommodate anybody. However that might be from downloading it from YouTube to Dropbox or however that... We're becoming pretty well versed in moving large bits of content. Zach will text CJ. Radio update and can Chris come to the next word meeting? Chris or Lou? Why do we want Chris? GDR, I guess both potentially? Yeah, Chris, go on. Both potentially, I guess. So there hasn't been anything last word meeting. So I would say touch base with them and then see... Yeah, yeah. Do you feel like so there's a GDR partnership forming or they're just like giving us the green light? I don't know that there's anything been... They're trying to raise money. I think there's foul feel for that. I would characterize it. If we were willing to go that way, I think Chris would be amenable to it. Right. But I think at this point he's just offering his knowledge. Sure. And saying... I'm just wondering like would there be a shared stable of DJs potentially, like some DJs on there that would also love to be get a slot with us and just those kind of conversations. Yeah. And I think those are kind of down the road because we got the application for the frequency. So I think we're preliminary developing sort of interest in the community. Okay. So and then in terms of application time... I think we're still next year. Yeah. Get right on topic. Maybe Chris and Lou are invitees to early 2022 board meeting. Maybe that would make sense. Yeah. I think that they can get the money that they need. I mean, they're within only three and a half weeks. They're fine. Yeah. Signing what it also says to give permission to go ahead. And they're raising money any way they can, but they're trying to make it sort of on the honor system rather than submitting all their time-to-time rules when they're ready to pledge drive at some time. And then we got our full update on the documentary lab. Other old business, I'm just trying to jog memory. Maybe we're done. Maybe we're done on old business. Any other old business? Well, I was, I was hoping we could meet the new person out of that or besides Chris Broome. Yes. So on my to-do list, which I noticed in the last more minutes was that creating a video of three instructions on how to, how to become an access producer. Yeah. I noticed that and I noticed that I had done anything on it. So I put it on my to-do list. Okay. And we're going to make the big thing in essence in September, the annual meeting in an open house. Well, you know, the annual meeting, there's, I think there's two separate things here. If they open house, I mean, the annual meeting is really an opportunity to, I think that we have to be two electional officers. I think we did that last week. We haven't done that. Yeah. I mean, it was a weird September annual meeting. But we're overdue, aren't we? Well, typically- And we did. We did. We did. We did in September, which was for the prior year. I'm sorry. Open the world would open up in the summer and it didn't. Right. And so we said, geez, we got to, we got to put something together. So typically the annual meeting would be in May, which I think is in our bylaws. And then after that is the, is the, is the organization. So that's when you would do electional officers. So, you know, we have some sort of perfunctory business that we need to take care of, which we could do. Like we did, you know, we warned the annual meeting from the beginning of a regular meeting. We could do that for the August, right? August meeting. And then an open house would be an event that's not really, well, we don't have to do this perfunctory business. We actually showcase the work the kids are doing. We showcase our new location. We showcase all the work. So that's, that's, I think that it would be helpful to sort of separate that out. I think so too. Well, they've all, they pro, correct me if I'm wrong. They've been a single entity until this COVID year where we decouple. Is, are you suggesting we don't recouple? That's what I think so. Because it's, there's not a lot of business at the annual meeting. We really didn't have a lot of business. So we would then try to expand it to an open house and try to get people in. Right. I mean, there is some reporting that we want to try to do. There's a presentation. Presentation that could be done at the, at the open house. And then there's nothing, as far as, it's the business that we have to do at our annual meeting. It really is the election of officers seeing any new board members. You know, when we don't have an election process, we may want to contemplate at some point. But yeah. So we give you an election with officers beforehand and then open it up to see the open house. Yeah. Or we could do the election officers at the beginning of our next meeting in August. And just so you know, this is our annual meeting. This is half an hour. Yeah. And then the open house will be scheduled sometime in September. Yeah. And then we have to go to the 4th, the 4th, Tuesday in August is the 24th. Sorry. That would be some uncamping, but I'll come back. Will you be here? Do you want to move to the 3rd? That would be good. I mean, I don't mind coming back here from Waterford River. It's not that far. So we could say the annual meeting is, does that have to be separately more or can just be touched on more regular? Yeah. I think we do it. I don't know if it has to be, but it's, you know, we could sort of separately monitor this annual meeting. So we can propose the 17th is a regular board meeting that also will encompass annual meeting business. At the beginning of it. And then the open house will be floating a bit around the documentary. Chris, for the documentary. Yeah. Are people comfortable with that? Yeah. Well, you need to go. Well, no, we're super close. Yeah. Yeah. Or you could walk. Move to a journey. With a pain call. Move to a journey. All right. We've got our date for the next meeting, the 17th. Do you need a ride? Any motion cleared? We're done. It is adjourned at 8.41. Yeah. We'll pass 8.30. Yeah. That's a long one. Thanks for bearing with us. Thank you, Chris. See you, James. Thanks.