 much the same code on Rachel reads to us as all of you can read in the announcement Rachel says what are your thoughts on Dr. Greg Hanley's approach to happy relax and engaged in the possibility of being successful in public school setting also the ideas of having students choose your interventions and success in the public set at school setting do you believe this is a true revolution ABA we have we always possibly or have we just possibly found a more systematic approach to pairing you said a question yeah we were gonna make a video on a question yeah a question that's for it like I even said one to three sentences in my instructions and there's four well and I'm passing this question off to him at least parts of it because it's more of his area than mine so here you go this is what happens when you have an expert on staff okay all right so I believe the top was something about keeping people happy relaxed and engaged yes yes with Mr. Hanley although the words are all different I would argue I agree because you can't teach in an extinction burst if they're cranky pest and miserable they're not going to care who you are attendee oh so his kind of thought is really about making sure your students are at a baseline happy content and engaged because without that you're not going to teach anything because they're not going to see the point and they're most likely going to hate their current setting and hate you so I think what he's saying is you have to make sure that the student is ready to learn and being ready to learn means you're having all your basic needs met there's a structure in place that they understand how to get reinforcement and how not to get reinforcement and at that point you're able to build skills from there yeah that is one of the things we're supposed to be doing I think what we have a hard time with is a lot of the learners we're dealing with don't necessarily have the skills to just by age skill deficits you name it but when given the opportunity of students are able to guide the skills they're interested in that is the best level of informed consent and direction of therapy you're supposed to take you obviously guide and they have to learn the things they have to learn like math and reading and writing and all those pieces but if they have the skill set to influence what they would like to do in their treatment that is that is the goal if they start doing that congratulations you won they're becoming an independent individual and then you support where they want to go thank you and do you believe this is a revolution in a VA these new approaches from say handling I don't know if it's yeah I don't know if it's a new approach as much as I think people are starting to realize that these principles we teach are more intertwined and more complex than how they're being taught so to say that we use differential reinforcement and extinction and shaping and chaining and we make the nice even clean chapters and in life they're like this what they're saying is we have to be aware of learning histories and relative difficulties from their perspective and guiding people through that I don't I wouldn't say it's necessarily a revolution if anything this would be more of Skinner's idea behind radical behaviorism actually taking effect it's the field has taken tell now to be like oh private events are neat and we're going yeah they are let's be mindful haha that was awesome hey it's kind of integration you know I think that's kind of what the what we get back to when we're thinking about that particularly the revolution it's not just about behavioral principles per se being applied in this context is about realizing that you're operating under them as well and that in order to be an effective therapist in order to be reinforced for your job in order for your clients to possibly reinforce the work that you're doing you might have to be mindful of all of these things in that integration I suppose might be a little bit revolutionary to understand that we're being shaped as well instead of being like we are the wielders of contingencies and we will change you that's not necessary I understand the principles I own all the actions I own the words and the world yes all right so revolution probably not in the pairing thing that's a whole that's a whole term so I think we'll skip the pairing part of the question but good question thank you very much Rachel cool yeah hope it helps yeah