 Hi, this is George Cao and some of you who have followed me for a while know that I have had Some challenges with the idea of limiting beliefs a couple years ago. I made a video about it and Recently one of my colleagues Evelyn who's here with me. Hi Evelyn. Hello. Yeah She asked me about it. She's like, you know George you talk about how maybe there's no such thing as limiting beliefs and people might be Spinning themselves, you know around with with this idea of limiting beliefs and what do you think about it now? And I've actually softened my beliefs about limiting beliefs. I used to be kind of more hardcore and there are no limiting beliefs I don't believe in that kind of work, but then over the years as I've seen people work on these things I'm like there's something there about it and Evelyn actually works With a lot of people over the years regarding clearing their limiting beliefs and she's seen success with it So Evelyn, that's why I wanted to bring you here and to have a conversation I figure throughout the through the conversation of course people will get to know your work as well and so maybe we'll start with what is your perspective on Limiting beliefs or we could even you could even use any examples of work You've done with clients in the past some of the issues they bring to you, but however you want to start this this idea. Yeah Well, first of all, thank you George for having me here and a chance to have this conversation with you I would like to start by saying that I was also a skeptic. I was a total skeptic and it was like I think more than 15 years ago when I was kind of dragged into my first workshop and that was an EFT workshop my husband had signed me up for it and at that point we were just exploring different ideas and all that but I would say that I was quite close. I was reluctant to attend I mean just imagine like your spouse signing you up for something and you're being kind of forced to go because it's already been paid for So that was a weekend workshop I didn't think that I got much out of it because it was just a weekend, but Eventually as life would turn out a couple of months later. We found that we were in a lot of challenges and It started with my husband going into a slight depression because he decided to start his own business and then That's when we decided to you know what let's give this a try and see if it works So we tried it on a variety of situations from money situation migraine Pain shoulders, etc. And so on and we started to see that you know what it kind of works and And it started with my husband, but later on I started to Use that on myself. I work with a practitioner. Yeah, and I just want to mention I mean you you you've already brought together You brought forward several issues. You like money issues. Yes, even physical issues, too. Yes Interesting. Okay. Yeah, go ahead and And what happened was that still I wasn't convinced like I said I was a total skeptic and I decided that the only way to know is to put myself out there and just you know Let anyone know who is who if you're having problems or struggling or feeling stressed out Let's try and see if this works and then eventually I when I surveyed some of my subscribers I found out that money issues were consistently the thing that was Being highlighted as the one area that stresses them the most so I thought you know what Let's try this again and see if it works for others and I've been quite blown away by some of the results that Clients get but they can come to me for almost Anything that they are feeling stressed or stuck about and we work on finding out What are some of the beliefs that could be driving all these repetitive patterns of stress and struggle Yeah, this was how I got started. Right. It's so interesting because recently I You know in my TLC program. I found myself Instructing the group to Look at if they have an emotional state that's not helpful to them negative state What might be a underlying belief in that and then I caught myself thinking oh my god, that's a limiting believe, isn't it? So I have come a long way with regards to this but So you have been working a lot on the money issues with with people So maybe we can we can talk up we can focus on that a little bit here What are some examples of limiting beliefs when it comes to money? It could eat the thing is a lot of people may say that they are really aware that They have this belief of I'm not good enough. So that's one big belief there But there are also different aspects or new ones to it. It could be that I Don't feel wanted or I don't feel that I'm worthy so If we can get specifically to what they are actually saying to themselves and the Conclusion that they have made then that is going to be a lot more powerful Let me share an example So this was one of the early clients that I've worked with She is by the time she came to see me. She was she already had three marriage breakdowns and And she wanted she she wanted to Start a new business. She wanted to go into the property line But she found that she consistently had the problem of getting her contract signed So her or prospective buyers would be like You know telling her yes, but just at the point where her Agreements were about to be signed none of these agreements could go through So when she contacted me, I had no idea that her situation was really bad Like, you know, she was going through a divorce. She had to pay her husband money and all that I didn't know the extent of her situation so we started working together and There were a couple of things that we work on but one particular Memory or event was about Her being given pocket money, right and then but these the money she was given was immediately taken away from her So it was like a game like her parents were playing with her and The conclusion that she made was that you know what she wanted, right? She wanted to buy candy But would always be out of reach So again, it's about maybe not good enough, but it was with a slight nuance to it Like the things that I want would be out of reach and throughout her life You know, it keeps the same patterns keep being repeated So this is this is just one story and But I would say that because I work a lot on one-on-one with clients. It's not There are no standard, you know, there's no standard You know, there's no standard. So I've helped clients who Have Worked on issues like they don't feel wanted. They don't feel they don't belong Maybe the teachers let them in school or they fail in math so any incident where In that moment of trauma, they formed a limiting belief like, you know, I can't have this or it's it's shameful I need to be perfect in order to be loved and approved so that's when we need to Release the trauma that is in the past Even though it's considered or they may have considered that this is a small event You know, let's not make a big deal No big fast and all that but we find that it's actually all these small little events Where they have made a conclusion about themselves or about the world That is affecting their results today So That's very interesting. And what happened to that client? I mean once you worked with her I'm sorry if you mentioned that I didn't catch it. What happened at the end like or is it still ongoing? I don't know but Right for her within five months, she was able to pay back her loan She got 25 contracts Real estate contracts. There's a lot for real estate. Yeah, she got invited to speak in industry in her industry and She appeared in magazines. So that was it was huge Wow, and She credits that to Something clearing with that limiting belief So, why do you think that happens? I Have my theory about it Maybe I'll share my theory briefly, but I'd love to know what you think and maybe maybe what I guess perhaps the limiting belief Creates two things it creates a negative emotional state Especially when we're about to do something that Was connected to that limiting belief or trauma and that negative emotional state might actually Stop us from doing that thing or self-sabotage us like maybe I don't know I'm guessing maybe when the client when she had that limiting thought and that was creating this Limit in her in her business in her life. She maybe at the point of signing the contract She would self-sabotage or do something because she didn't feel like it was supposed to happen So she almost like subconsciously Yes, but it could be but what do you think why why why does the limiting brief create Limit I guess in our in our lives Because it shapes it shapes our perception. I mean, have you do you know about the work of Dr. Bruce Lipton? Yes. Yes. Yeah, go ahead and share what you understand about that. Yeah okay, so Yeah, at that at that point when I was a true skeptic I came across his work and that was how I started to you know Well, okay, let me just give this a try and see whether this is this really true like what he's saying So he's he said okay if if I'm interpreting or if I'm getting it correct is that the our perception of the world actually drives our Reactions responses and how and the actions that we undertake But these perceptions are shaped by the beliefs so we change the belief we change our perception and therefore change the results in his work as a cellular biologist she was Saying that we are not victims of our genes but masters of our genetics Which goes to show that we can actually change a lot in our lives even though sometimes we think that we've inherited these genes But no if we can work on the beliefs then a lot of things can change for us. I I'm not sure if this is correct. I think the term may maybe epigenetics, right? Oh, yeah epigenetics Yes The study of I'm just googling this the study of how your behaviors and environment can cause changes in And affect the way your genes work. This is actually from the cbc the definition of it and Yeah, that's so interesting. So beliefs shape perception which shape results now what I'm curious about if you now belief shaping perception that seems more Obvious to me, but maybe what's less obvious To well, it's less obvious to me and maybe to the people listening to this is how do you think perception then shapes results? Because what do you think is happening there? Yeah. Yeah, it's how we are responding to the world right and if You know because um part of the the The issues that we have right the struggles or the stress That we have today a lot of it is because We have been programmed to react in the same manner And in and if we trace it all the way back Right, if we follow the energy because that's what I always do Like I I when a client comes to me We are following her energy and we follow her energy to trace back to what has happened in the past And in that moment where she made that conclusion A block is created in her energy system So when I use a lot EFT these days So when we are releasing that that energetic block it somehow comes the sympathetic nervous system to let her know that actually it's safe right now There is no real threat. Whatever threat that has happened was in the past is no longer true right now So the more we can calm ourselves the more we are free to undertake a new action or behavior That makes a lot of sense. It's almost like If you believe that the door is locked And you just believe it that it's impossible that's if they don't you have no key It's locked. You will never even try to open it. That's exactly And but if you if you if you believe that well the door might be unlocked or I might have the key to it Then you actually will take the action to open the door or try a different key And therefore the door opens for you where before the perception of sometimes the perception is even there's no door here It's just a wall And then it's like it's like those Illusions what do you call it visual illusions where you like see a painting and it's all lines But then you if you see it just right you see there's something in the painting There's actually a tree or something like that It's it's like you to change your perception and you actually see something different And you're able to take action based on that that new perception. So that that makes a lot of sense to me This is really so Maybe you could tell us About another example if you have one about while we're still on this topic of money I think that's relevant to a lot of people here and and whether it's money actually or business Yes, there's a lot of folks watching who are working on their business What's another maybe limiting belief or example of how it's Keeping us from taking action um another example I have is this This lady who wanted to be able to present she had problems in public speaking showing up on videos and So we started working together and now for her. She has tried meditation and usually a lot of my clients I've tried a lot of things from meditation a lot of attraction thinking positively As such and so on so she has tried uh quite a lot of things for a number of years But she found that it was even difficult for her to Give a five-minute presentation for toast masters. So she wanted to practice She signed up for toast masters. She thought that that could help build her confidence In a way it did but she was still very very nervous And she realized that her Low self-confidence was affecting actually a lot of areas in her life And she needed to work on that So we started working together And again not knowing exactly what uh issue in the past could have or what belief that could be with You know like her experiencing her low sense of confidence And what we got was that she Had felt unwanted for a very long time And so it's like how does unwanted link to a public speaking issue, right? The thing is that yeah, she felt unwanted and um the event or the incident Or the story when she had in the past was about her mum Not wanting her And as we got as we traced back it was a case of mum Almost aborting her a few times So we actually worked on that Now that integration into a sense of wholeness because I use energy healing tools as well The integration into wholeness Actually gave her the permission to be here to be herself That it's okay to be you know to To feel that sense of belonging here And that actually helped her gain a greater sense of confidence So in the end um after working with her she was able to give presentations like last year When the Pandemic started she was giving two to three hour workshop classes with no problems So it's not that she she still have sometimes anxiety Like we all do for public speaking and presentations But she was able to conduct two to three hour classes. So that's huge Yeah, wow, that's a powerful example. Thank you for sharing that and so glad that that the client was able to work with you and then blog So um, maybe one more question and then and then we can start to complete the conversation You mentioned energetic block So how what is an energetic block? And how does that relate to limiting beliefs? The belief can create an energetic block in the system because it's like when there's nothing in the way, right? We are For the lack of a better word. We are powerful. We can manifest what we want, you know, we we there's nothing that stops us But when we create a belief and a conclusion and it's a limiting one it stops us from Aligning with our fullest potential. So that creates an energy block in our in our in our system so by releasing That trauma right for at least for this this last example that I was bringing up Or feeling unwanted and letting her know that it's no longer true or even that she can actually kind of Help herself by re-parenting herself with love and nourishment and all that Then uh, the the block just dissolves Yeah, and the way I think about energy block, I guess it's like it's a block to using your energy Right, it's like a block to using energy towards something and The belief is that kind of that the hurdle there Well, Evelyn, thank you so much for for sharing these um inspiring stories possibility so What are a few tools that you use so you mentioned EFT? Yes, and I think Probably a lot of folks listening to this have heard of EFT Do you want to describe it a little bit just like a minute? EFT involves using our fingertips to tap on specific meridian points on our face and body It's an emotional form of acupuncture And I would say that it's been pretty amazing. Yeah, and it doesn't require needles. It's just yeah Yeah, it's so it doesn't hurt. It doesn't you know, there's no possibility of hurting I still can't yeah, I formed myself. I find that you know, there's a whole science to it Yeah, it's it's not necessary to know it At least for me, right the the the whole science like What does researchers say and all that to me? What's more important is that it works I I don't really need to know like this point is releasing what uh, what emotion or the other point it doesn't it doesn't um It's not really a necessary Information to have when we are when we are applying it. Yeah, I think different people Need different types of information to believe something, but it's great that increasingly There has been science Demonstrating the effectiveness of EFT The other thing you mentioned we use is energy healing. Do you want to say a bit about that? Yes, um, so We one of the things that I help my clients with is that after doing the release work, we would install a new belief And we would rewrite the entire vibrational story because if she's been Having this story of I'm not feeling wanted. That's the story. She's beaming out to the universe so through Some an energetic process we install the new belief And then we create the visualization such that she switches a new to a new picture And this new picture is a picture with the belief of I'm feeling wanted Maybe it's bright. It's colorful It's uh The the energy of it is more joyful more lifted. So we we change that so that In in that integration process She gets aligned with a new picture altogether Um, thank you. That's beautiful. Um, and I I just realized I have a question that I don't know if we were able to talk about in just a few minutes, but When people do energy or limiting belief type work And it doesn't work for them. I mean over the years. I'm sure you have come across people That have tried many different kinds of limiting belief type work and it didn't work for them. They're still the same After maybe even years of trying something I know there could be many reasons but what Might be of one reason that it didn't so-called didn't work for them. Um, okay, so sometimes When we are trying because when we are trying to I see like this is like detective work Like we are trying to find a needle in a haystack sometimes because a lot of times we tend to bury some of the things that have happened in the past um so sometimes when we are tapping through we We we we are not specific enough uh in The event or in identifying the belief. So for example, this is a just a very easy example to bring up Let's say a person has a fear of going onto a plane. So it's a fear of lying So at first you may be tapping on the fear of lying But she still has that anxiety after working through that then It could be that we find out that it's not fear of lying But it's fear of dying from a plane crash. So it could be more specific than that And then we may also find out that it could be part of that but it could also be a fear of say Getting paralyzed right if the plane crash So there's specific beliefs That could actually be the part that we are missing So the most specific we are right the better the results Wow, that's very helpful. And I'm sure there are other reasons we could talk about perhaps I would encourage you to uh, you know create some content around around why these When these things don't work and what might be the case, I think that would be quite interesting for people But I will be sure to put, you know be those watching this video Above or below the video somewhere will be At least one or two links to Evelyn's content Evelyn, thank you so much for for what you do and how you do it and the spirit with which you do it Any final words of encouragement for this video before we conclude? Well, I just want to thank you George for this opportunity to be here on this call with you It's great having a conversation with you And it's been my privilege to connect with you and to work with you. Yeah, thank you so much. Well Folks, if you this was interesting definitely check out Evelyn's content as of this recording Evelyn you have been become Doing some really interesting stuff on instagram that I that I've been enjoying So, you know whether you know, anyway, you click on the links in the in the notes of the video and you can You can take a look at Evelyn's content. So Thanks, Evelyn. Thank you. Thank you, George