 I think we're going to try to reschedule this. Then I think we'll call the meeting to order at 7.06. He doesn't know. Do we have any adjustments to the agenda? Person that I'd like to commend. I don't know whether I can go in. You can do that board comment. Good. Is Jamie here? He's on his way. Should we wait for Jamie or go ahead and get started? He asked that you proceed without him. He'll be here soon. All right, then we're on to the consent agenda to approve the minutes of Tuesday, November 21st, Thursday, October 19th, Tuesday, October 17th, and Tuesday, September 19th. Question on that. Didn't we already approve those three? All except for November. Yeah. There was something that I missed in an email from Tammy, to me, to Christie. They said she didn't get the approval of my snappy with the email, but we did approve everything through November. Yeah, that's what I thought. OK. Well, why don't we approve November's then? So moved. Seconded. OK, all in favor, say aye. Aye. OK. Minutes are approved. Aye. Thanks, baby. All right, public comment. Is there any public comment at this time? OK, board comments. I had a parent approach me and say that they were very pleased with how a situation was resolved and how their child was taken care of by Mr. Booty. Did I say that right? Yeah. OK, Mr. Booty. So I'd like to publicly commend Mr. Booty for looking out for the best interests of our students and making their day-to-day lives better. Awesome. Thank you. Is there any other board comment? OK. Celebration of learning. So this is a little bit different of a celebration of learning. I decided what I would try to do is give you the opportunity to see a Hagerty lesson. But I so I recorded and spliced it all together. So it'll be in six minutes. You'll see a Hagerty lesson, which is usually a 20 to 30 minute lesson. So I have a video for you. Has a little bit of Stephanie Russ talking. And then, yeah, when we just start, and then I'll fill in a little bit after. So this is first grade Stephanie Russ's room. Hagerty is our phonemic awareness curriculum. As teachers, we provide students with these daily lessons to work on phonemic awareness. Phonemic awareness is when students can hear and identify phonemes or separate sounds, like in the word cat to say c. Students can also make phoneme and grapheme connections with the use of Hagerty in order to help with spelling. For example, the sound shh is a phony. But it's made up of the two letters s and h. So it's also a grapheme. This is because students need to be able to recognize that the sound shh is broken down into two letters s and h. This program has been absolutely fabulous. I just love seeing the immense growth. Not in only my students doing decoding work, which is being able to read, but also to see their ability to spell and use sounds that they've learned to make words on their own. It is also tied nicely in with our foundations program, which is all about phonics. And the connections are really strong. So today it's slightly different. We're going to, I don't know if she's going to do the roller coaster or not, but if she chooses to, we're going to make that sound. And then we're going to say the sound of it. And we're going to decide if you, ready? Here we go. Listening ears on? Yeah, here you go. We can use our roller coaster or roller coaster to isolate that vowel sound. Ready? My word is shah. Shah. Shah. Good job. That's when we write a vowel word. We can see, listen for each sound, and then match those sounds to letters in print. Today I will say a word, and you will repeat the word, and segment the words that sound. Yeah, are you ready? Can you count the sounds you hear? Ready? Blash. Roar. We know how many sounds. Three. Let's see if we can match the letters to those sounds. I'm going to have, you tell me out loud, and I'll write it on the board. Or the first letter for roo. The letters we write should do what? A word or a word part to make a new word. We will be adding a consonant, a paragraph bound to make a new word, OK? I will put a word or a word part, and you will repeat it. I will tell you the consonant, a paragraph sound at the beginning, and you will tell me the meaning. The beginning and the word. The beginning and the word is, at the beginning and the word is, delete or take away the first sound, and say what's left. I will say the whole word, and you will repeat it. I will tell you the sound to delete, and you will tell me what's left. You're doing a great job. We will be making a consonant, and you'll write it back down. You want to see me out, Shay? Without shh, what's left is? A. A. Yes, we'll work it out. Shay. Without shh, what's left is? A. You try. Check. Without shh, what's left is? A. Cheat. Cheat. Without shh, what's left is? A. We can substitute or change the first sound to make a new word. Today, we will be changing a consonant sound, a joint consonant, a paragraph sound. I will say a word, and you will repeat it. Yes, ready? I will substitute the first sound, and you will tell me the word. A. Say what? Less. Less. Less. Less. Less. Less. Less. Less. Less. Yes. I don't know. So we use this program in our kindergarten three-second grades, and I would say We did not used to use this and during COVID we found the teachers were trying to teach kids how to read with mask on and couldn't show their faces and that was hard, and we found hegrity because someone had these videos prerecorded and so we are able to use these videos and since then some people use the video been a COVID keeper. So it's a lot of manipulation of words and really works well with our foundation's curriculum, which is another curriculum we use to help teach rating. So that is that. Is that one of the new smart screens that? That is not a new smart screen. That is an old spaghetti screen. Is everything she's doing with her hands? Is that like a standard part of the building? So the idea of gross motor activity helps like seal it in the brain is is absolutely what that's about. So with foundations they tap out it's more fine motor but you'll see them tapping out gross mortar and yeah it's it's that whole manipulation with your body helps it get into your brain. And the kids know it. And that's K through 2? K through 2. We use high grade 8. Interesting if you can take classes. I have had a couple of teachers say that in the past some of the school board members have gone in to observe classes and stuff. Is that an option? Say when? I'll get it set up. Let's do it. You want to come in? You just want to walk around if you want to see something specific? I can create a schedule. Or if you want to do it on campus we could work together depending on what you want to see. Yeah. Okay. Well thank you. All right. Reports to the board. Principles. That's us again. I would highlight just a few things in our report for the elementary. Happy to be acknowledged by the secretary Boucher about our impressive efforts in PBIS. Secondly I would say that just that we did our proficiency report cards out. We worked hard on those. We are currently working on a math pilot. We're looking at the current math curriculum that we use and bridges which is the other curriculum used in our SU. So we have some teachers that will be piloting a unit. We'll be visiting some schools that are currently using bridges then assessing whether we want to stay the course of what we're using or move to that other curriculum. The other pieces are all under our community outreach section. Today I sent out an all-call and many people who didn't have to come to work came to work and helped us pack 150 boxes and bags that are going to be going out in addition to the generous donation from Chris and Pike to families who would like vacation food boxes. So for elementary we have about 150 families who did not opt out of getting the free food. So we pack those all up today and Cabot donated cheese which we're very thankful for. And we had some other local donations from Hanna Fords and Shaw's to help this done. It's all actually really through the community schools grant. So happy to have that. And super thankful again for the people who came in who didn't have to come in today to help me do that because otherwise I was going to break child labor laws and use my children. And then I also want to thank Gordini Glove. Both campuses applied for the Little Glove Project and we got two huge boxes of beautiful gloves donated to us to use for eco and for any kids in need. So it was a really generous donation of really nice gloves. We're happy to have them in Vermont and taking care of their elementary schools. And then today had we had school we would have gathered the whole elementary together for our winter fest sing-along which is really the high school leading us through it. So we're bumming that we didn't get to do that today. But looking forward to it next year. That's my highlights. Okay. Two things I'd like to add that didn't necessarily fit in the three categories of the principal's report. I'd like to first offer a celebration. When I was first interviewed for this position the students when interviewing me asked me about my thoughts on school dances. So I knew from day one that was on their minds flash forward to just a few weeks ago a group of students when I say a group I'm talking more than a dozen at any given time being giving up their break time to actively plan a middle school dance. I'd like to especially thank Nicola Moth our student counselor who helped guide them who did some facilitation work. But by and large a group of nearly 20 students pulled off a dance where we had more than 80 middle school students show up and a whole bevy of chaperones. Usually one of the toughest things to find. I point that out because I want us to keep in mind when our students are motivated and they have a goal and they're given the empowerment and the resources. It's interesting what they can pull off. It was very well attended. It was a good evening for all. The second thing I'd like to point out is really to plan a seed. I would like to invite you to take a look at our maker space at the next board meeting that we have on this campus. So in the next rotation in Bethel I'd like you to see the progress we've made on that space. In the immediate future we're going to have all the walls painted, equipment coming in, a lot of projects starting to come together. Currently on our campus we have several 3D printers that have been put together thanks to Ray and his folks assisting Mr. Andy West. So again planning the seed the next time we're on the Bethel campus I'd invite you to go take a look at that maker space. At the high school I just have a few things. One is our leadership team has been started this year and we visited the elementary data team just recently and just learned a lot from them as far as how to run a good data team. You know at the high school it seems like when we talk about kids and their needs we just sort of just sort of brush things and we don't have a lot of data that we go by and just after being in the elementary data team for 10 minutes it was all data driven and it was really exciting and I think our leadership team is ready to take the next step so that was great and I thank the data team for doing that. Next is at the January celebration of learning we're going to talk about explorations and that's something that I highlighted in the report and then lastly is as far as community expanding our community outreach. Myself and two students went to Newton school did a little recruiting on there's a little note from a parent in there. I thought the two students did a great job. We had F Budd coming on January I forgot what day 18th I think to come down and visit do a school visit so we're continuing with our recruiting. Those are some of our highlights right. I should add one more thing um it wasn't I don't think we knew it when we had our principal support out but Francis later our new farm to school coordinator just um applied for and we're receiving the early childhood capacity building grant for $19,000 $19,900 so super excited about that and her work to get that grant for us so more and more to come with the farm to school. What's that going to allow us to do? It's really based on the early childhood but I think it's we'll know more soon um I think it's just like it's going to help us get started to build our capacity so we can have more education with planting and growing our own foods things like that. Nice. Great. Anybody have any questions for the principals? Okay. Hey guys I apologize the policies you get them in your full board packets they didn't come in the local district packets so I think we hold off the full board didn't take action on these revisions and you didn't get them so I apologize about that they got sent out to the full board but not the two district boards so I'll get that fixed moving forward so we'll just take action in January it's they're all grammatical revisions there was nothing of substance to these particular three but I think we should just hold off so there's that but act 127 updates so in regards to act 127 we have really good news in regards to our long-term average weighting pupil increase for Rudd was was really really positive so what you'll see is is when we get ready to go to your class sheet in FY 24 you had 566.94 pupils based on the new algorithm that number would have jumped for this current budget year to current FY 24 to 1030 and 68 that's really good and what's even better is is that the long-term weighting number for FY 25 has jumped to 1096 in 93 and so you say why is that the biggest jump from last year to this year I just want to see the board sorry is mostly our free and reduced lunch numbers across many of our districts has increased in that free and reduced lunch number does increase the per pupil count and this new learn long-term weighted average and so what we're seeing right now is that our middle school is over 60 percent for free and reduced lunch population now and our high school is even over 60 percent free and reduced lunch population now which I think has always been what we are and so you may say why all of a sudden have the numbers increase when we got school-wide meals and things of that nature it is because the agency now is using Medicaid data and direct cert data that they have access to to be able to generate those free and reduced lunch percentages it's not just relying on the forms being filled out now and what you tended to see is before our elementary numbers were sometimes upper 50s to might hit 60 but as we get to middle school and get to high school those numbers would decrease because families would just not fill them out as much and so now with being able for them to get that data now through other ways not just the free and reduced lunch form I think we've seen those percentages actually reflect much better reflection on you know our students and and and who we're educating and so what they've done now in the cost equity formula is is recognize that those districts who have higher numbers of free and reduced lunch should have greater tax capacity to serve those students and so what you're going to see is as we get to the budget and things is that that is helping us quite a bit for this current budget cycle and so that's the act 127 update in regards locally here at the district I would tell you that one of the things I continue to be concerned about in regards to act 127 continues to be what they projected was a significant drop in the yield which is the number we're using right now in your tax sheet the other thing and my sense is that that drop in yield will stay I don't see that rebounding the ed fund is going to run a deficit this year they're going to have to find some additional revenue funds to put it in and you say to me why GME is because act 127 is written in a way that if your per pupil spending from FY 24 and FY 25 stays under 10 increase your tax rates capped at 5% as a town and so if well I was just out of district where if we didn't change anything in our budget we needed to actually increase locally their tax rate should have went up six and a half percent but if it's capped that one and a half percent has to come from somewhere right and so if you multiply that across the state of all these different districts that's going to result in an ed fund shortfall and so how might they make up that difference well they have a few ways they could make up that difference one they could look at regressive taxes to make up the difference so taxing soda I was just saying or something right and putting that money in the ed fund they could do that they could increase their projected non homestead tax rate which right now is less than six cents so $60 on $100,000 home that's what they're projecting right now when the tax letter came out or they could look at are there ways to use some general fund surpluses to help soften the blow to the ed fund while they're getting act 127 up to speed some folks have said to me where did this 5% tax cap come from you know my sense is remember this bill was not actually adopted last year this was adopted two years ago they gave a whole year for this to come into play it was really my sense is is to soften the blow to districts who are actually losing pupils so there are some districts across the state that this new waiting average actually resulting in their pupil cow going down or or it went up not enough to make a difference in regards to knowing that the trajectory of the drop of the yield so that is why they kept it at 5% to try to allow those districts to get their spending in order over five years to make it so that they had a more sustainable tax rate moving forward and I think that's how they gain support for the bill across the state you know when they were rolling act 127 out all they wanted to talk about were the weights there wasn't a lot of talk about what it might actually do in regards to the yield or how they were going to generate the difference in funds and so you know I do expect there to be some type of action taken on 127 this legislative session I just don't know what that will be so you wouldn't anticipate them and getting more revenue by lowering the yield further from what the projection is no my sense is that that was the that they went that they realized there was a problem and they went in with a really low yield I'm not gaining any sense that that yields either even drop further what I think they're going to look at is talking about tax caps like this 5% like why how do we even come up with 5% is that arbitrary right like yeah I think they're going to look at that I think they're going to look at like how do they look at increasing other revenues to the Ed fund I don't foresee right now that the yields going to drop even more and I think part of when the governor's talking about 18 and a half percent tax rate I think he is trying to raise concerns around that they're that this bill and that there are I don't know if he even fully understood it originally I think now he is realizing that there's an Ed fund in shortfall and that has to be made up somewhere and looking at like how are we going to navigate that but if it drops further don't call me a liar I'm just not hearing anything on my end saying that the yields going to drop even more than what they're projecting okay I mean it was a huge drop yeah but I mean my students go up and yield drops yeah it's a wash yeah well for us it's a game for us it's a game and other districts it has not been a game but that's the way it's got to be yeah absolutely correct okay any other questions on on that and we're going to go into that all again here when we do the budget in the tax sheet but I just want to give kind of an overview of the act 127 I also just while we're here wanted to put a huge shout out to our road crews and first responders across ASU I had a few districts yesterday that even though we closed at 1130 that we were dealing with water over roads and some fire departments and things had to help us out just to make certain kids got home safely so a huge shout out to them and then to just the staff I was in a tuition budget meeting which was really a positive thing with Principal Thomas until about 940 and walked out of Royalton school and recognized well no I had put a call into Tumbridge because I had heard that the roads were messed that morning and then also got notified by their road crew that that first branch was very high and rising quickly and so I didn't make the call to have an early release until about 955 and we were able to get all of our students fed on buses and run routes safely within 90 minutes and so it's just a huge shout out to our staff like our admin assistants our food service the bus company was able to get their drivers here so that we could roll routes by 1130 so it just it had to come together quickly and it was just it felt good to know we could pull it off that quick I know it was an impact to our families but we were able to get kids home safely and in you know essentially it was impacting all of our districts because like we have kids that got to get up that first branch corridor on 110 so it wasn't just first branch it was getting our high school kids home and so anyways just a shout out to everyone involved and just how communicative I mean I've been on the phone with the the Beffle road foreman at least four times in the last you know day and just very communicative and just very appreciative of it yeah great okay um uh Tara Tara's Tara's was sharing which is where I ran from and they were my senses we'll see her a little later they still had some stuff to work through oh yeah okay um and the policy committee didn't happen yet so um and then we have these three policies and sorry that they didn't get included yep all right um then we're on to the budget oh one thing I could add for Tara in case she didn't come is we did get um first draft audits either this morning or yesterday afternoon so that's good everything's good there and we'll have true trial fund balances for in january so okay um do we want to rearrange the discussion items and do the other two before yeah let's do that yep so yeah summer project updates do you want to take this Chris sir um yeah I'm already you can fill in wherever we had our facility meeting um this morning that's right I was thinking we just stayed but yeah it was this morning it's been long the last two days have blended together I hear you I called a principal Aaron and they were like you don't have a principal Aaron just our Sharon so I'm with yeah so we talked about the the work that had been going on so they are in here on the Bethel campus they are in what they call finishing up their work working on punch list type pieces so for a couple of more weeks we will see you know dumpsters and things are being picked up there'll be some troubleshooting going on they'll have an individual that will be in and out just kind of doing some of the fine tuning of the system um to make sure everything is is working as efficiently as possible um the full integration with test with the wood chip boiler will be completed by the end of the month I can't remember what exact date he'd said shortly after christmas um so and they did apologize for the inconvenience of one cold really cold day here on campus when we didn't have any heat so so it sounded like those are coming pretty well it sounded like that the lighting they were going to double check but sounded like the lighting was just about a hundred percent completed again some some tie-in type pieces that they have left it was brought up today in regards to some of the lighting in the gymnasium about protection around the lighting from balls and other projectiles so they were going to look into I guess from what we understand is due to the due to the technology of the lighting and and how they dim is the cages kind of get in the way of that technology but the lighting themselves are more durable than than the typical fluorescent lighting so they they work he was going to Eric was going to look into the potential of a protection cover for certain problematic areas of the school and he was going to get back to us they did say that they would warranty their work for the period of the trial so things are going to break do it now so we will test it out now so it sounded like everything was pretty good and you know everything on the Royalton campus has been wrapped up when it came to the lighting um so I think we're we're in pretty pretty good shape there now that it's wrapped up at our campus is that um container going to be taken care of or is that it sounded like it okay you know I was just going to email him here and there and I think they're I think they're waiting for the contractor coming to pick up those yeah the other night at the concert I was just like the parking was unbelievable and I thought while there's six or eight there from the container that people aren't able to park but I'll email him just to remind him but I'll do I'll do that yeah okay yeah thanks I had made comment this morning to them that you know at least as being a basketball coach and now quite often and having the late practices often is you know they seem very professional they're in here you know they're kind of working around the kids and the practices and there are hallways and and it looks like everything has been cleaned up before the morning so it's not like you come in you're like oh you know we get bits and pieces all over the place and and the janitorial staff also said that that they were very happy with the how they picked up after themselves so and at least I was over here I don't know how how how was over there as well but yeah yeah good professionals sure only because it's changed since we met this morning initially we were scheduled to have a handover tomorrow where some of us would be walked through the boiler set up emergency shutoff start things like that that's not being rescheduled until January 3rd it's the only thing that's changed since our meeting I just got to say the lights out so first time I have seen the lights out front yeah it's a lot wow a difference it's a huge difference yeah actually in the library here I'm noticing a big difference too the the only I guess the only true when we talked about that today about how how nice the lighting and I think it has a more welcoming evening but the the downside to that sometimes is if you show up for like say the 6 30 practice or 6 o'clock practice is if nobody's been in that area in a period of time it's all dark so it almost looks like nobody's at the gym because the one of the first nights I had a six o'clock practice there was a bunch of parents are waiting in the parking lot like can we even get in I'm like yeah it should be able to get right in and the door was open it was just it looked like there was nothing um because they they go off after a period of time so okay um does anybody have any questions on the summer project work it sounds like it's wrapping up and done a good job so it's good I guess then we can move on to talk about the uh next potential projects and the capital improvement projects and possible bond vote November update yeah so we again um went through that today um kind of putting together our timeline I know originally we were talking about um kicking it off this month but it we're we're going to do it next month um so we we talked about uh that we were going to well it's all going to go under one bond vote but at least be broken out into different pieces so that we can share um the cost of each one of these pieces would be so there's the the piece of the the performing arts center itself there's going to be the piece that we talked about some of the upgrades that would have to be done to the existing gymnasium some sound acoustics and lighting and some safety concerns that we had in the old gymnasium so that'll be its own line item talked about the moving forward with the ventilation pieces in the library and the cafeteria so those will be their own light item and then the um what we're calling the the entrance way or safety and security entrance ports both at Bethel and Royalton and we also threw in a little bit today just talking about we didn't want to completely fix everything but you know there's a couple other entrances here on the Bethel campus that need to be looked at the the door here at the library and and the door on the back end of the school and the gymnasium that that have gotten to the point of no return so um just kind of putting those in there while we had a contractor unsecure kind of there's a lot of yeah there's there's holes they're they're rusty they're that's unsecure um yeah so um so so the idea is that the next meeting um Eric will be here to present uh kind of you know an overall picture of what this project would look like in all the details and then kind of a an umbrella cost of of what we think this will uh be um and then we at that time hope to have uh numbers that we can present of of bond type numbers and um at that time we just kind of want it any questions that the board may have in regards to the project and anything that does come up that we plan on in the February meeting to address those questions and then hope to have a a yay or no in February on moving forward with the project or not and and then the rest of the timeline we've started to put together but I guess it all depends on if we move forward with it or not so you know the end goal is November of next year um and there'll be a bunch of other um milestones throughout throughout the portion of it so all right thanks thanks Chris okay um I guess now we're on to the budget unless anybody has any further questions on the uh that will improve our projects so I can start with the budget principles can fill in um and so you know I would start with it it this is one of the larger increases in budget certainly that I've brought forward to you since I've been your superintendent um I would also say you know last month when we were talking about personnel alone we were at about eight percent increase and so I hope that the sticker shocks that too much we have not changed any of the fte increases from last month of what we showed you what the differences are now is you have all your line items um you have your su assessments that are in here these su assessments are based on the budget that we proposed for the su board to possibly approve last night and that budget got um that meeting got canceled we'll take that up on January 3rd I just want the board to know that we did remove the data coordinator out of that um su budget proposal so the su budget that you saw in November is going to be down to what we're asking you to get a center to approve in January um and then your su assessments of course adjust every year based on the percentages and Tara did share those out with the full board and by the full board you all get on whether you're on the board or not when we send stuff out just so all the board su board members know all your board the whole 32 board members get that information um and so um I just want you to know that those are based on that that budget um otherwise what we did is we made some adjustments based on what we're seeing actual trend um you're going to see underneath um 641 I wanted to point out under books and periodicals you'll see a 22 000 increase this is on page one to ten that is to support the purchase of bridges materials you may say what are bridges materials that would be for us to purchase math materials um at the elementary level um to support our teachers in grades k through five you already have them in pre-k um do you want to go into it further yeah so I mentioned it a little bit earlier in my third report so it's depending we're doing the pilot to see what the program we go to regardless uh whether we stay within vision or go to bridges we have to we have to up our our contract it's going to cost money so that's the that's the cushion just depending on which direction we go in I was curious and I met the asker and the principal's program I forgot um and we just went to vision probably two years ago three probably feels that way for people on the royalton campus yes um they've done it in Bethel but we just switched well we we're using a couple programs in royalton when I showed up there um so we decided to get all on the same page so um we had to have contract and it's up so it's I think it's a good time for us to decide if this is really the same track we want to stay on or it's better to do what the our sister schools are doing because then we have training with them as well so uh it's it's all in the teacher's hands I have teachers from upper elementary and lower elementary who are going to go visit and um I'm going to let them make the decision about which direction we're going in so is there still kind of a decision to be made about whether we're going to do a pilot we'll know the beginning of February no the pilot's happening we'll know which direction we're going in beginning of February oh okay yeah so just to the board note um this is just an example of when I came at the SU I said that you have to have a line curriculum materials I didn't say they had to be aligned across the whole SU um and so your district and Sharon are using envisions materials that we purchased via SR funds the other districts chose to go to bridges at that time um and we've been tracking data across those districts in general it's looking like bridges makes a lot of sense for us across the SU um in addition we've been implementing some number of corner from bridges at Rudd already to try to just strengthen number sense so and you use bridges intervention as well too okay but we do try to have it be the instructional materials are not the curriculum we try to have it still be a district decision we don't say you have to use it so as far as that line item though it sounds like we'll be spending it on one of the other kind of correct you have to sign a contract with somebody yep and when you sign a contract is it just like here's $30,000 we get your stuff for five years or is it it's a little bit more than that yeah I meant like training they do your support yeah yeah no there's there's a lot of support I think that uh but I have more meant is that a one-time cost or is an ongoing cost it's a one-time cost and then we'll have to budget for it I mean it's a one-time cost up front we'll need to budget for it again when we want to get the next version right so not every year but every three to five yep okay all right yeah and why it looks like it's the first time you bought it is because I leveraged Esther to get aligned math materials across the SU uh so wanted I wanted to point that out um you'll note you know health insurance is a big jump across each one of your departments um those are big Tara builds those budgets on who your current staffing is and what they've chosen for health plans so sometimes you'll see health insurance jump even higher than 16.4 percent because we had budgeted for someone last year that might just had like a single plan or just a you know two-person plan and we hire someone that had a family or you may see it go the other way you'll say how did it health insurance go up 16.4 percent but now in a certain area it's down well it could be that the teacher we have now is single it doesn't have a family and so we're budgeting as if they're going to be single because that's what they've said to us if we don't know who the teacher is going to be meaning we haven't hired them or we're looking we budget for a family well just uh going based on like last year it was basically 1.2 million for all the health insurance and so getting that time 16 percent is another $188,000 so that increase that that's a chunk uh the other thing I wanted to just remind you so what this budget still includes for additional staffing is another student support coordinator so you have three currently right now you have one at Beffle Elementary essentially one at the middle school one at the high school this would give you a the fourth student support coordinator to support the Royalton campus elementary school it's been very hard to share a student support camera coordinator across the two campuses so that's why we're budgeting that so that's an addition in this budget the other FT you're you're seeing is going to be in TechEd you'll notice a big jump on that on page three of ten because we're budgeting for that second TechEd teacher so that we have a TechEd teacher on the Royalton campus full time and a TechEd teacher at the middle school campus full time right now we have one TechEd teacher that goes across the two campuses starts here in the morning and then goes over to the high school in the afternoon so that was an addition the other FT edition that you're seeing in this budget is in the guidance area we're still budgeting for a guidance administrative assistant to support the guidance council and Principal Thomas brought that to you that job description back in October so that is still in here and you will find that yes it's under act thank you Andrew um and so that position would be it's going to be student facing family facing certainly support the admin the guidance counselor with students in regards to just all the stuff that goes behind the scenes around supporting students for college you know that is a position we had that we had cut about three years ago just to remind the board when we were in a really difficult place of trying to come up with a budget that we felt voters could support while trying to also navigate some deficit also though the high school has grown significantly you know we we are looking now at cohorts well over 50 and when we get to the revenue side I have really good news in regards to how many we're budgeting right now for tuition students in revenue versus how many it's looking like we're going to actually have next year based on current students in our building and I will say that we've seen really good growth at our high school like over 50 tuition students that's great where we're only even carrying in 35 so I'm just saying as the high school is growing I think it shines more of a light of needed support around that office that is not where we were three years ago so just to know that that's in there yeah let me talk to Tara about why not just get into the guidance department that's where I went to look for it you'll see that that underneath on page 7 of 10 under 21 90 student support you'll see that increase of the 1.0 for the student support coordinator at the bottom of the page that I was talking to you about I just wanted you to point that out where that was oh this budget does also support just to remind you of us having two interventionists right now at the middle school you have a reading interventionist and we use some paraprofessional support to support in mathematics this would be us looking to hire a licensed teacher to do math intervention so we would have a 1.0 reading interventionist here at the middle school and a 1.0 math interventionist here at the at the middle school that's in you'll find that underneath intervention is that under media yeah okay so it's the increase of 0.4 because it's how we had the high school FT budgeted prior it's not going to take any FT away from it it only shows a 0.4 but it's going to equate to a 1.0 here the other thing you will see your transportation assessment went up some other districts we've saved and this district we didn't based on just in our prior bus contracts that we were not we were not being assessed a build at a certain cost per bus it was kind of like they just gave us a figure for each district now we're paying per bus so I was just at a district where they saved 30,000 you are up but I can tell you it's exactly what the you pay for the buses you have on the road and so I it is up some but I would tell you that in general our service has been good and and they work with us and and I know that we're paying for the buses we have and we have those buses it does yeah so anyways I can I can tell you the cost per day and that's what this is built on I did want to point that that's up the other thing you'll see in your budget that we've been carrying in the community schools grant is we budgeted for Tri Valley transit in here which is just over 30,000 and you may say Jamie like why are we budgeting for that locally I've got all the Tri Valley routes are really serving our high school and middle school around just supporting us in regards to getting our tuition receiving students back home in the evenings and also doing some crosstown runs in the middle of the day doing crosstown runs in the evening it really is a red service that kids at the secondary level may use but it really are tuition receiving students so you'll see that in here because I cannot keep this community school grants going away I do think it is a worthwhile investment to keep offering that transportation it is certainly it cost us less than if we were going to contract through our bus provider two I will tell you that we def I definitely see tuition students getting off of those buses and getting on them in the afternoon at your high school and the I mean really you know not even two students utilizing that pay that each year so I think the more I think it helps us with marketing I think the more that we can continue to do that I do think all those things contribute to why we have you know over 50 students in our high school now coming to us so I think it's a worthwhile investment but I wanted to point that out that that's in there maybe I did have a question about the tech center transportation that's up $33,000 and in the revenue page there's the vocational transportation which I thought was basically offsetting that but it's not up in the revenue okay well she included tri-valley transit underneath your tech center transportation so that's what that's just what you were talking about that's just what I was just talking about also know that revenue line for tech center is based on a two-year average right okay and for example right now we don't have students going currently we still are budgeting for this next year just so you know but like right now we don't have students currently doing pre-tech at the randoff and so we're not running a midday bus to randoff right now so you're actually going to see a savings on like at the end of this year we won't spend as much in that line as we're projecting we're continuing to budget for if we ran that run but it's on actual actuals when they say to Tara this is how much we're going to reimburse you it's based on how much we actually it would just there's another coding thing it might be better to have the tri-valley transit in one of the other lines just because I didn't know that I just wanted to point out to you that we were adding it so I mean we did add some fte so really for the board you know your overall budgets up 9.87 percent we can go to the revenue and tax sheet just note of the board that you know that when you start to talk about where you want your overall budget to be know there were definitely some things added to this budget right meaning personnel yeah that was about 200,000 of the 1.2 yeah um one question I had was about in section on page page 8 or 9 sorry page 9 there's the contracted services is 20,000 up and other professional services is 18.5 so what are those this is uh 341 and 349 on page 29 yeah the opposite the principle 2410 but it's on the previous page so it's at the top of page 9 or in the middle of page 9 I believe we will have to ask Tara we've been used in some contracted service to support our students in some intensive pathway programming for some high school students that we've had some concerns around dropout and so we have been using some contracted service providers to support students virtually in regards to that my sense is that might be where that increase is coming from but that's a question you have to ask her she adjusts to the office of the principal well it would be a contracted service so we'd have to ask her we did talk about adding that so but that would be a good question for her I see that it's big that that those two funds were spent from an FY 23 and we've been doing some of that contracted service so my sense is that's why she adjusted that but we need to ask her okay they're having but other services we've been doing outside of that so my sense is that that's where that's coming from Jeff is that making sense to you yeah yeah I think um one other thing I would point out um as another difference for that adds a lot is that in previous years we've had the balance carryover from the on the revenue page which is when we take our surplus and put it into the budget to lower the tax rate and that's been two hundred thousand dollars the last couple years and we're not we don't have anything budgeted for that this year so that is two hundred thousand dollars at the one point two one point two seven that's the difference which I would tell you we have I mean we did increase our tax capacity right so at the end of this when I get to the tax sheet I'll tell you that we're looking at taxes going down which I know sounds crazy yeah but we I mean this we are a district where Act 127 was supposed to build tax capacity um so that's why yeah why don't why don't we look at the tax sheet yeah I think it's and so that's why I'm not I would not suggest you go putting revenue in particularly when we're talking about cutting taxes well and doing big major building things so what is the projected carryover that that we will have in the budget we're not projecting that we're budgeting any revenue carryover that we're going to ask that you look to ask the taxpayers to put that money away in reserves okay but what is that number do we do we have a off the top of our head I can't tell you that number off the top of my head it was still pretty it's big I mean it was conservative 300 350 my sense is it's be maybe even a little more than that Chris for one we're carrying 35 pupils as a revenue and you know if we're over 50 20 times 17 5 right there the last few years is that starts to add up to some surplus that is one of the things you we can adjust on your revenue page I don't know if I want to we have gotten in trouble in the past of over projecting not in the last few years but at one point I felt like we were over projecting revenue around tuition so I'd like to always stay conservative on that so like if we're projecting that we're going to have you know right now we're looking at over 60 kids in the revenue pool which is good you know I would like to always at least have a 10 to 15 student buffer because you don't get to just make that up am I making sense Chris what I'm saying or the board like I can't make things to get revenue we don't build stuff so I would rather always under budget revenue and and have it come on the positive end then over budget because then you're just chasing your tail trying to find up that budget gap during the year I can go to the principals and say well guess what that money that you had set aside for x we're not going to have to tighten our butts our belts and not do x so I can't talk tonight apologize at least I haven't caught any of you yet so based on the current budget are there and if so what what would be the cost on some things that we may see funding mechanisms go away here in the next two or three years so if there's something that we're projecting I don't know it's $40,000 that we may have to come up with half here going forward or whatever is there anything in this budget right now no because you know I'm not using any Medicaid funds in your local budget as a revenue so let's go over the revenue page and that's where it would happen chris and so on your page one of one of your revenue budget you'll see at the top we're not carrying any balance carryover which is what you're just asking we've been using $200,000 each of the years we're we're budgeting none this year you'll see that terrace still using 35 students at 18 five for your tuition revenue I'm telling you that I know that our number is more like 60 currently um she's using your tuition at pre-k she upped that actually those are based on your actuals right now we hadn't done your actuals yet for the middle and high school to the last two days I don't want to use all of them though unless you tell me we have to what I mean is if we have 60 I would prefer that we don't budget all 60 because kids can change their minds or something can happen and then we're we're trying to make up that difference so those are your local revenues the the other thing to know as you go down chris one of those areas where I would tell you that I always get concerned is that the if you look we haven't been budgeting at Medicaid reimbursement we do generate some Medicaid funds and we but in the I get concerned that number can fluctuate based on parents filling out the paperwork for Medicaid reimbursement it can also fluctuate just on our Medicaid numbers that is an area if we were if we were looking for revenue we could budget some money there and you'd say to me jimmy what would you budget Medicaid toward I could budget Medicaid funds for you chris toward your nurses toward an SAP counselor right now you have an SAP counselor I do cover it in a different grant fund at the SU level called Mac funding it's different than Medicaid but it's a similar pot of money and so just know that if you said to me like what's something that could be risky it's Medicaid can be a bit risky because that number can fluctuate you know are in general are you'll see that your grants went up and those are the grants that come into the supervisory union for title funds that we're increasing that based on your free and reduced lunch population number we have to title and rank in regards to title one in the funding that we provide schools and based on just your your interventionist actuals that's why that number went up chris but I don't see that number changing for our SU has been really stable in regards to title funding and the good news is our free and reduced lunch across the SU has actually gone up so then I don't see them I was worried about this two years ago because our numbers were dropping but now that they've got that they're using actual data not just the free and reduced lunch form I'm feeling much better about that so that's where your total other grants is it's title and then your tech center that's that's really based on the students they're going to the tech center that's where that number comes from and that difference in reimbursement so we're not using anything in your revenue side that I feel not good about and what I would say is that we just are really careful that we're not you know I don't want us to overstate um tuition revenues because though they can be tricky and I just want to make certain that that the number of students you know maybe we bump that up to 40 but I don't want to go much more than that make certain and I think purposely budget for surpluses but certainly better to have surpluses than not particularly when like we benefited from the um yes sir no the uh the long term oh act 127 absolutely and but you don't know what the yield is going to do next year as far as like if they have a big budget deficit nothing close it next year so yeah and then under the long-term debt piece what what is the long-term debt that we're carrying so the very last um that's the gym that's it I think so I think it's only got like five years left or something do we know what that balances we can look at last year's audit or it'll tell us in this year's audit then we get it but um okay it's it's not too many more years okay I think it's till 2028 or no that's yeah I think it might be till 2028 all right um but I need to need to double check it makes sense because it's going down which they tend to I mean they tend to go down I can ask that question on terror to chris and I ever get it to you I'll have her email the whole board pull it quickly out of the audit might not be that and then I had a couple just random questions so looking through the history of our school meeting we usually put a piece in there that kind of shows equalized pupil history and I know we're not there anymore but you know trying to at least show the voters that what our daily attendance is I guess at the school is I know things have changed but how can we put that together this year so we it sounds like we have growth right so how can we put that before the voters you know I think we can do 80 m like average daily okay because I know we've you know we've kind of changed and from what we have been using and then and then I noticed that common level appraisal we didn't adjust any common level I don't have yet okay we don't get that till January so people looked at the tax sheet yeah so just a walk especially new board members and please reach out to terror to and she'll sit down with you but you know what we do is we take our expenditures we decrease that by our offsetting revenue which is the revenue page we just showed that gets us an xxd education spending of 13 at 13 million 105,548 that then gets divided through by your long-term weighted average daily membership and terror put the equalized pupils to the right like Chris was just talking so you can just see like why does that long-term average daily member cost per pupil spending goes down so much it goes down because we use we used to use a factor of 56694 now it's 109693 all right and that gets us at 11,94748 which gets us to an equalized residential tax rate of 12640 then you have to go and contribute the yield and so we or the yield came in before that I think actually I apologize which get you to 1.2640 so you take that final FY 25 equalized tax rate which is 1.2640 just so you know you'll see that that is the same number both in Bethel and Royalton that equalized tax rates always the same in a unified district when your tax rates change is is because now you have to factor in the CLA which for board members that's the common level of appraisal and so when that common level of appraisal is under 100 percent then the tax rates going to increase based on the CLA how do they come up with the CLA they come up with the CLA based on what property values are selling at versus what they had been previously assessed at right and so if property values are selling at a much higher level than what they were assessed at then the state would drop the CLA to make up the difference in taxes with the idea being you have not assessed in some time your properties are worth more than what they were assessed at value wise so we're going to drop your CLA so you're paying the difference am I making the sense there and so in Bethel was at 88.40 and Royalton was at 85.44 which gives us a homestead tax rate in Bethel of 1.4299 and in Royalton 1.4794 okay last year Tara put your prior year's tax rate right underneath it just so you guys could see it and Bethel was 1.5089 and Royalton was 1.5612 that results in a reductions of tax um in Bethel of almost eight cents and in Royalton eight cents and what you'll see there is Tara broke down what the increase uh or it says still says increase because typically that's what we're talking about but it actually is a decrease uh in the tax in the per property value tax rate of a hundred two fifty and five hundred thousand dollar home yeah I think it's a negative I think it's a good budget season to put some money away and uh I'm with you yeah put the surplus away and it can lessen the blow on future projects um or or help us towards this bond vote that we're putting together I think there's a lot of opportunity there I think I think everybody has been I mean created the we all want low taxes I mean that's the goal right but but there's also you know this is an opportunity for us I think everybody they like it or not has already started to plan for higher taxes based upon what the governor's saying and and and uh you know I think this is a year where you know we could have a budget somewhat similar to last year with maybe a small growth and put some money aside um you know because I mean right now we could probably put around eight hundred thousand dollars aside into a fund um to carry forward and and that would really change the tax rate at all if I'm looking at a rate oh you mean take like increase the budget to where the equalized tax rate is yeah to offset it yeah yeah I mean the way to do that Chris I see what you're saying is we would increase our like for example you could increase your contribution to um your capital reserve fund yeah right now we're currying 40 000 you could bump that up because I mean we you know when we're talking about the infrastructure we have I mean there's there's the bond that we'd like to put together and the bond isn't just I mean a big part of it is the arts um center that will have some donations towards it but you know there's the security portion of the school um there's the ventilation piece and then there's the other pieces that we aren't considering right now that we need to do in the next you know three four years which is window replacements and you know all those non flashy things that uh we don't necessarily want to spend money on but need to so um I think it's just a good opportunity I mean I think if he's going to be just helping people understand that and helping them understand um how are my taxes staying flat and you guys are spending almost two million yeah that's all right like we're just we're going to have to have a lot of explain the good news is we vote from the floor so you'd have that opportunity but it's really not that hard to explain though is it I mean I feel like we hear this language a lot I feel like long-term weighted pupils I just think for someone who hasn't heard any of this I hear all that yeah do you know what I mean like it's it's flat because we did as an organization we did really good in past years and now this is the well no I mean I think it's fairly easy to say the state changed the funding formula because we have you know higher uh you know lower income students numbers we benefit the key would be if you could I would say to you I you could increase it I don't know you're going to be able to increase it that much because they've put a cap on what you can before you have to go in front of a panel and so what that number is Chris is if you look at FY 20 underneath this tax sheet here toward the bottom terrace put it in TN the the percentage increase between FY 24 pupil spending for long-term weighted average can't go over 10 percent if it does we could go right up to that 10 right and if if it's almost crazy for you as a district not to we didn't come in with a budget doing that right but it is almost crazy for you not to do that because um for you in the I mean you get less of a tax break but otherwise there's no nothing you have to prove to anyone if you go over 10 percent we have to go in front of a panel and justify why so you could add another 600,000 and stand at the 10 percent that's a lot of money yeah well I mean I think there's opportunities I mean to say one we don't know with the new formula I mean there could be a neat jerk reaction next year I mean when they start having to you know when the ed has to make some sort of adjustments based upon the communities that are under the 10 percent but you know a cap at the five you know there could be a change in that but I think it's you know it's an opportunity I think everybody's thinking I mean right now if things were level funded and you weren't getting an increase at the school I think a lot of people would be very happy especially knowing that you could put money aside now you're going to have individuals that are going to have a hard time getting around well the budget's going up you know let's say if we added that the budget's going up 1.9 million dollars like you know they just that would be tough to get through but we're we're also our school's getting bigger and you know and like you were talking about more support you know a third of that budget going up at that point money that we're putting aside for for down the road right and I think we could sell that we don't know what down the road is going to look like right I mean taxes could continue to go up we do know what down the road is going to look like and it's a large bond vote and so right bond vote is much less yeah you know like we can use this money not like 10 years down the road but next year to make it our future budgets are only going up by sure yeah 50,000 a year instead of 90,000 yeah I mean the truth is you could I mean depending I mean you could almost get in the place where if our fundraising you can almost argue are we even having to go to bond yeah I mean I mean I'm saying we got reserves like I don't know I haven't run all those numbers but I think when we were looking at it you still would be too like we were looking at a bond of like one and a half million that's what it was I don't have to look and this is a one-year influx of money so it's not like we're carrying that on on the sheet for next year you know so well that's what I'm saying you're not yeah doing personnel they're going to continue to be there right you're it's a one-time investment well so I would say you know I do think it's worth looking at like providing support to our teachers and students though you know I I agreed like putting some money aside would be great but also you know I like if we added two extra pairs I think that that would make a big difference as far as like you know I I have heard from some teachers that you know could use extra support you know and like if we are able to do that and stay you know people are still getting a tax decrease that would definitely be a worthwhile thing to do so it could be we're coming back with a little bit of both and we get some options yeah that's that's what I would argue for and you know that's where you know I want to hear from the administration like what would be most helpful as far as helping in the classroom with you know I think there there's been a a lot of need in the classroom because of you know COVID and and just general you know difficulties with things and so you know what what can we do to help support that and I know the student support adding the student support person is definitely going to help but like you know extra pairs or something like that Tara we had a couple questions and you weren't here one of them was and I I don't know if I got this right or not but underneath the in the principal area we had increased um contracted services and other professional services it's on page nine or ten it was uh three three one and three four one my wondering uh sorry three four one and three four nine my mind and just wondering was was that to support some of the work we've been doing around contracted services for like high school dropout prevention and things of that nature it was that's correct okay great and then the other question that came up was um Andrew wondered if we should move tri valley transit somewhere else for transportation and not underneath tech center transportation mostly because that line corresponds to the kind of the revenue line the vocational transportation one so keeping those somewhat equivalent would be nice we can talk about where we want to put it it's the right amount it's that 33 000 it's just a question about where to put it yeah that makes more sense and then there was a question about the long term debt and what all made up that long term debt I did have a question I know it was the gym but are the lease payments in there too now that's what I thought so remember we did a lease on the heating system and that's part of that too okay do you know when the gym pay off is give me one minute and I'll pull the schedule okay just curious that was a question I think it's 2029 and then a majority of the lease payments were supposed to be offset by savings so are we showing those savings in the budget as well you would have even this well you would have started showing them this year but in this budget though yeah okay so there should be a yeah okay so you've kept it in the budget but we shouldn't see a savings that we're saying no no we decreased the budget in those areas this current year okay the FY 24 budget reflected those okay and we just kept like we didn't add them okay gotcha yeah and so we'll have to see what the actuals are for this year right if we're although well I I think you know this is definitely promising certainly the way it all shook out with the taxes is very encouraging and I like Chris's idea of putting aside some money towards the the building reserve fund and yeah I think we should look at what we can do to further support teachers and students terrors you got it 2029 you got a home run there Andrew that's right well I found that I found it that so that'll be basically $190,000 coming off at that point correct that's your principle so if we do look to increase taxes but still lower them like what what target should we go to I guess is a question do we try and take the maximum amount to that 10 cap or yeah that's what I'm thinking I think even at the maximum I did the numbers out quick if you you could stay just under the 10% if you added $600,000 more to the building fund or what do we call it and you you still would have you still would have some tax savings there oh even after that there'd be still be a savings yeah because we can't because according to Jamie we can't go over 10% the difference you know there would still be if I got this right math wise we'd still have a show about a two cent savings if we max that out sounds about right that sounds like a pretty great idea yeah when you present it like that that sounds pretty good we're we're going to be presenting savings and being able to put the money away sounds great yeah and I think the more offsetting money that we can show towards that bond vote the the better position we're going to be in as well yeah you know well you said when we explained to people I think having to offset that bond vote is going to make people a lot happier when we can offset that bond vote at that time yeah because we have the money yeah because we already have monies in the fund plus you know we could use some of this plus we have you know potential grants and and the donations that we have so there's quite a bit of money we're going to be able to offset that with and then you're only looking at carrying the gym another couple of years and that comes off right so I think you're in pretty good shape there yeah I think it looks like $550,000 $550 yeah and that would still be a decrease in the equalized rate of you still be like two cents yeah one and a half cents that's not bad I mean I can't imagine that anybody outside this room believes that I mean I think everybody's thinking that taxes are going up of course considerably well now that's and actually some communities might be having that conversation right now oh yeah I think we're pretty fortunate that we have the opportunity it is crazy money aside one budget meeting can be very different than another sure we're just paying for the buses now that's all right I'll take it I'm okay with the way things took out yeah um so what do people think about um putting money aside versus funding things for this upcoming year as far as staffing or whatever well I do want to hear back from staff about about about the addition you said possible powers or something that might be that might be a good idea I'd like to hear more about that yeah but I think you still have the opportunity you know even if you put this whatever $550 away right and we cap that out because it sounds like because we're not taking full advantage of what our revenues could be that you know if we do have that $50 or $60 total that there's monies in there to be had next year that you could add a para as you've got going if well if you needed to or some more support we can keep it long term without impacting the tax rate because we have that right space in the right yeah yeah I think you have I think you have some space in the budget if you needed that and you could find the right people right okay well I feel like we've got a good direction okay what I would like to suggest is we're going to need to announce your tuitions before the next meeting I need a special meeting right by me before the 16th right I'd like to come back to you with a draft of what we just talked about like we have a special meeting before the 16th that does another look at the budget and you announce your tuitions and then on the 16th possibly we're ready to adopt just your next meeting is pretty late okay am I making sense of what I'm trying to say yes you're saying have a special meeting sorry one more time before the 16th your next regular meeting I don't believe it's till the 16th here is that accurate right I think we need a special meeting just to do budget another look at all this and to do your announced tuition for next year we need to announce your tuition before what January 15th correct so that we can dial in this budget like one more time so that in the 16th we're possibly coming to you with warnings and stuff am I making sense just because your january meeting is falling late in january just yeah it's as early in january as it can be actually is it yeah the 16th you know like well we have where that cycle works but yeah just the way it is um okay well I don't have to decide that now but I'm just suggesting talk about it then okay that sounds fine it's gonna say like in the past you kind of base the the tuition rate on the per people spending but now the per people spending is kind of a chair there don't give us a calculation right still I have a whole workflow that I have to a new one determine what your announced tuition rate is I don't know what it looks like now but we'll find out issued by the agency of education sounds like fun okay any further budget discussion anybody wants to do okay then we'll talk about one will reconvene later in the meeting although that might be coming up soon yeah um well a public comment at this point is there any public comment I'd like to do one this public uh I'd like to second what Jamie said and thank the teachers the par is the bus drivers the road crews and anyone else that had anything to do with getting my kids safely home the other day I really do appreciate that and when he mentioned it it made me think I'd really like to thank everybody because everything went swimmingly and I never have to worry about my kids getting home and that's a very nice thing to not have to sit there worried so I just got a call and said they'll be home by 11 30 and then everybody was home at 11 30 love it thank you everybody okay so we'll then we'll be on to an executive session the only thing you may want to just um maybe use it the the information I gave you earlier Jamie oh sorry yeah um just making sure that if anybody is going to run Monday the 29th if anybody's going to run for the open board positions that you have to have well both so you have to go see Pam Brown um because she's the acting um clerk and uh so you have to do your consent candidate form as well as your signatures by by the 29th so that's that's the cutoff January yeah January it's six Monday's prior to yeah and who's up again it's you Peggy Peggy and then my seat yeah okay so who do they see if they're going for Peggy's seat uh Carmen Carmen yeah she'll get it to Pam yeah right and Peggy you do Peggy you do plan to run again unless somebody didn't really talk me out of it which wouldn't be that hard but yeah no I'm willing to run again and Chris you said you were strongly thinking about it too yeah yeah still thinking about it was there somebody else to tell you you said something all right I'm not sure where you're at in your agenda exactly but did we already skip over the discussion item for the capital reserve I don't think I don't think she ever put it on when you asked her oh yeah we don't know about the discussion item for the capital it's under action it's under 8.2 it is okay no so do that yeah we skipped that sorry about that sorry but you know the this is what you guys had already approved for us to use for fund balance toward the summer work um but Tara will read it we have to ask you for the actual money before we take it out okay so I need the board to approve if it's their desire 181,262 dollars and 50 cents to pay the current balance through november 30th 2023 to EEI I'd like the motion that it be approved as Tara wrote it uh read it in exactly I'll second it so any discussion okay all in favor well let's do a roll call vote um hi hi okay it's uh approved good catch Tara it got mixed in with the policies yeah thank you all right thanks Tara um do we want to schedule the yeah let's do that before we go into executive yeah so Tara did we get a special meeting schedule with Sharon tonight too do you know what when that was just so when we go we are doing it january 9th at 5 30 okay do you want to do the the 9th is the tuesday before our regular meeting that'd be great if folks wanted to do at 7 i had to just piggyback again looks great can we can we um can we do it here i'm fine with that oh it doesn't matter to me one or the other i have a game here until 6 30 so it should be done by then what night is coming watch tuesday tuesday great that's great Tara they grabbed that tuesday that was open great does that work for you pecky tuesday the ninth seven you're muted trying to read lids she knows she's muted still no she's not talking what was the question i missed it sorry uh are you available tuesday the ninth at 7 p.m far as i know okay well let's plan that then the executive session on um contracts needs Jeff and Tara and i can come too but okay um i'd entertain a motion to enter executive session to discuss contracts as to do so in public session we'll put the board as a disadvantage so requesting Jeff and Tara and Jamie so moved thank you everybody else we'll we'll see on january night maybe