 Well, we're just a small group here, but I think maybe we may wish to get started just with the introductions and a little bit about CDKN, because then maybe some other people might hop on board as we get going and we need to make enough time for gameplay and discussion at the end. So why don't we get going and hope that others join. I'm Mari Dupar and I'm a technical advisor for the Climate and Development Knowledge Network. You have joined here the inclusivity training session of CBA 15 and I'm very pleased to introduce my collaborators, Patti Velasco and Nona Leili, who are going to say a quick hello from their side. Over to you. Hi everyone. I hope you are fine. I am Patricia Velasco and I used to work in FLA with CDKN as well and now I'm still working with FLA as a consultant. So let's play and have a lot of fun today. Hi everyone. My name is Nona Leili. I'm joining from Cape Town. I'm also part of the CDKN team. I'm a project administrator. So I hope you're a person on the background of Zoom and yeah, looking forward to playing the games. Thanks a lot guys. Let's advance to the next slide and I'll tell you about today's agenda. So we just said hi to each other, which is great. I'm going to tell you a little bit more about CDKN and all about the climate and society role play game, why and how it was developed and piloted. That's the interactive game we're going to be playing today. Then we're going to play the game together with various of us being in character. And then we're going to have a group reflection on what issues we pinpointed about climate risk and adaptation for different groups of people based on the game. And then we're going to have a further reflection on the use of the game as a pedagogical tool. How do they work as a training or educational exercise. Go ahead to the next slide. So first about CDKN. We've been going since 2010 and we are a knowledge network across the world. We are headquartered in Cape Town, South Africa at the NGO South South North. That's where the global offices are. I myself am based at ODI in London. The major activity is happening out of the regional offices at South South North, also at IKLE South Asia, which is the regional hub for South Asia and FLA or Fundacion Futuro Latino Americano based in Ecuador. And we've got the focal countries that you can see on the on the map. Nepal Bangladesh and India in South Asia, Ethiopia, Kenya, Ghana and Namibia as our focal countries in Africa and the Andean countries of Peru, Ecuador and Colombia in Latin America. Next slide, please. So our overall mission is to enhance the quality of life for the poorest and most vulnerable to climate change, and we support decision makers to design and deliver climate compatible development. Next, please. In the current phase of CDKN, it's called the Knowledge Accelerator. We're particularly focused on linking knowledge together with action on climate change. And this takes the form of tailoring the wealth of knowledge on climate change to match developing country needs, support collaboration and learning and to empower climate leaders and champions. And there is quite a focus on peer to peer learning, which you'll see come out in the game today in the way it's designed. Now the learning objective of the climate and society game that we're going to dive into today is for participants to understand more about women's and girls and socially marginalized groups perspectives and needs in the context of climate resilient development and climate related disaster risk reduction by walking in other people's shoes and is really designed as a tool to help participants start to explore operational solutions for different groups of people. It's really intense to get people thinking and talking about intersectionality, how not just gender but a combination of people's social economic status and social cultural characteristics and preferences affect the way they're exposed to climate hazards, their vulnerability and their capacity to make positive changes. And we do put quite a strong emphasis on this last point, not just talking about people as victims, but all the kinds of knowledge and capabilities and skills and talents that they can bring if their potential is unleashed to the task of climate change adaptation and resilient development. So how the game could help in a sort of climate action context, it uses interactive role playing methods to encourage participants to think differently. This lady in the picture is upside down. It encourages people to change their perspective in some way to cultivate a deeper understanding of social differences and needs in a climate change context. I really want to make it very clear that we don't propose that role play could be a substitute any kind of substitute for hearing directly from different types of affected stakeholders about the needs and concerns. So that's definitely not our intention. It's only one exercise and a diverse toolkit of training approaches, and we see it as an entry point, not an end point for discussion about different people's characteristics and priorities, and so what they can get out of climate change adaptation. So you have to understand the training tool of this game that we're going to be introducing today as something that we see as being used alongside direct engagement with climate affected people, definitely, including in a training context itself, testimonials from climate affected people from different perspectives and backgrounds, including in an online training context, it could be, you know, video testimonials if it's not a more interactive form of engagement and indeed other forms of educational tools. Next slide please. So I just wanted to do a short advertisement, in fact, for the point that this game, this interactive game is part of a bigger training and development pack that CDKN has created that has got several modules, which are intended to support project managers through an entire climate project cycle, and sorry if the font is a bit small and you can read all of those words in the diagram, but basically, you know, goes from the understanding people's needs and climate vulnerability assessment through project design and development and budgeting monitoring evaluation and learning and so forth. In fact, if you go to the next slide, please. Thanks. These are the six modules titles, which you can find on the CDKN website and these are in the form of PowerPoint packs for each module on each of these different topics, which you're absolutely free to download and tailor and adapt and use as you would like in your own context for your own sort of training needs with the people you work with. So, so please do, as it were, help yourselves to these resources and we just be very grateful if you would attribute anything that you use from CDKN attributed to us if possible, you know, get in touch to let us know how you've used it. But that's just to say that today's session is part of a bigger picture, a bigger set of resources that we've developed. Thanks. Go ahead to the next slide. There's some context about the role play game. FLA, Patti's former organization has used the methodology in its gender trainings for a long time, and have got lots of field experience in this methodology. The greatest modification of this method and its expansion into the climate and society game under CDKN auspices has been underway since last, sorry, almost two years ago, and it's intended to explore climate risk and resilience issues even more. It was first created just before the pandemic hit and intended for face to face use in workshops. So we have had face to face outing with sort of COVID hygiene measures in place in Ethiopia in December 2020. But unfortunately, all the other sort of true pilots of the game have had to happen digitally in the online environment, and it's not really what we intended, but the good news is that it seems to sort of work. It seems to be usable online, but you can be the judge of that and you can see what you think about it. So just to say it's been a bit of an experiment. Next slide please. So it comes in three versions. And today's version we're going to use is the South America version. And there is also available on our CDKN website and India version, which I think you said you were dialing in from Nepal. Hopefully it would be suitable enough for Nepalese use as well because it's got quite a lot of sort of similarities that was designed so that it could also be used in Nepal. So hopefully that will be useful to you. There's an Ethiopia version and the character Hannah below is from the Ethiopia pack, which is very specific to Ethiopian circumstances. And in fact, we're currently involved in developing one which would be perhaps more suitable for sort of other locations in East Africa, and it's not quite so specific to Ethiopia, but you will find the links. We've got a big banner at the top of the CDKN homepage about our gender games and you can navigate to all the different regional and country versions from there. Thanks you go ahead to the next, the next slide. So how the game works is as follows and I'm just going to give you an overview and then Patty's going to take you into the real thing. So players are introduced into a fictional scenario and that Latin American one we're going to use today is called, well, it means of course flooded neighborhood, a low income neighborhood in a coastal city of South America suffering increasingly from coastal and inland flooding climate changes brought sea level rise and more frequent storm surges, including high waves that inundate settlements, businesses and infrastructure. So there's a scenario where everybody playing the game is going to sort of situate themselves mentally. So go to the next slide please. And then there are a handful of characters for each of the fictional scenarios and they all have a mix of different ages, genders, socio economics, status, religions, health issues, sexual orientation, education levels, literacy levels and so forth. So they're diverse just like real life is, and each character has many existing capabilities to help them adapt to climate change, including extreme weather events. But they also have these kind of socially conditioned roles and characteristics, which have to do with certain fears and insecurities about how people view them and treat them, which in many cases are quite real and tangibly felt. And that's in contrast with some of the inherent characteristics like physical abilities, which also vary, and also as well as the socially conditioned ones, affects their climate vulnerability and risk. And we'll come back to this rather lovely lady here, Sophia, the rural migrant of the third age, because she's one of our Latin American characters who we're going to meet in the game in a minute. Next slide please. So next trained facilitator, and today it's going to be Patty, takes the role of the climate change officer in this scenario. And there are actually two rounds of gameplay, we're only going to have time to play the first round today because it takes sort of half a day to do the whole thing. It's quite a long game, we'll just do round one today. And the game starts when everybody reads the scenario together, and they get given a character. And we'll decide when we go into the into the mural board, and to look at the characters in more depth, like who's going to take which character. And then the facilitator, the Maria climate change officer character, she goes around and she and like play acting, you know, has an interaction with each of those characters in turn and they talk about their specific circumstances. Next slide please. So the scenario here what we're going to do in a minute is that we're going to get into character and we're going to have a conversation and character. And the scenario that we're going to walk into is that Maria the climate change officer has tried to gather together people in the fictional neighborhood for a meeting to talk about the climate hazards. So that we chose flooding as being the fictional climate hazard that would be harming this neighborhood. But in the story, nobody came to the Maria's meeting she was disappointed so she knocks on each person's door the door of each character, and each character talks initially about the challenges they've had why doesn't they take part in the project why didn't they take part in the meeting and how does the flooding affect them. They have a conversation about that. And then they, they're talking mostly then about their vulnerabilities and their risks, and the sort of challenges that they face, but then they take a positive discussion on how to make this situation better, how to include them in climate change adaptation with a focus really on their capabilities and their talents, and also how you can build up social capital and collective action among different types of people. Next slide please. So you've played this for a bit. Then how it goes is that people sort of step out of character, and you are yourself again, and you get a chance to have a group of discussion and reflect on the experience. Let's talk a bit about. Did the game, your thought process, some of the prompts that you read about on the gameplay cards. Did they teach you something about climate risk for different people that you didn't consider before. Think about some aspect of climate risk, or people's vulnerability and their capacities and talents that you didn't consider. And did you get any new ideas about how to approach climate change adaptation and practice. So that can be one of the richest parts is when you kind of step back out of that changed perspective you become yourself again and you think, what am I going to do with this. So basically how it goes. We're going to go ahead and play now. I think it's time to hop into the mural. Oh, this was just a note. Sorry, just to say that. Patty's an experienced facilitator and she's done this before, but we also have a facilitators guidance sheet. So if you fancy playing this yourself, using these resources with other groups of people, we can share the facilitators tips with you in your document. And that could give you some prompts. So I'm also hoping that as you play the game with us today, you'll come up with various insights that will help us to beef up our facilitators tip sheet as well. So we look forward to doing that. Okay, shall we go ahead and play. We've put the mural link into the chat box. Can everyone see it. And then without further ado, I'm going to share my screen. And then we can all look at it together. Over to you, Patty. Will I try and get the screen share going. Yes, yes. Thank you, Miley, for the introduction. And thank you for seeing me like a super facilitator. I am learning as well. So we are playing together. And since we are now not too many people, I think each one can have a character. So let me let me give until we until mighty can share the screen. Maybe give like a each character to everybody here. So maybe Lucia. Let me see the name. Sorry, I cannot see the names. Amy, Amy Martin, Martin's. Can you be Lucia? Sure. Yeah. I know Panna Sharma. Sorry if I don't pronounce correctly your name. I know, I know Panna, can you be Roberto? Sure. Okay. Yeah. Can you be Adelina? I can try to. I'm just doing a lot of multitasking with making dinner for my kids. Okay. It's okay. We can try. Like a silent. Don't worry. The techie is correct your name. Can you be Juan Carlos? Mighty, can you be Sofia? And Mighty also I can ask Nonelady to join and be Miguel. Okay, let me try. I know that you also are multitasking. So we'll see. We'll see. So I think all of you have the, the screen of the mural. And let's start. I know that for, for, for most of us it's late. So first start closing your, your eyes. Have a deep breath. I'm being immersed in, in this scenario. This scenario is value in Undado. But in Undado is a low income neighborhood in a coastal city of South America. It suffers increasingly from both coastal and island flooding. Climate change has brought sea levels rise and more frequent the storm surge, high waves, that inundate settlements, business and free structure. Climate change has also brought heavier rainfall, this makes the river running through the city. It's bad, washing duty work and wasting to the streets. Flooding has forced people to evacuate several times. Something must be done to make the residents lives more variable. Let me introduce myself as well. So I'm, I'm Maria. And I am the climate officer from the municipality of the bar in Undado. And my job is to make a vulnerability assessment or value in Undado. And I really, really want to have all the perspective of the community. So let's now have five minutes that you being immersed in your character. So I would like to invite you to read each character. You can read both parts, like the back and the front. So you can see here, Lucia, Roberto, Elena, so you have the back in the top, the front in the top and the back in the top, in the bottom. So let's see, I'm going to put my timer five minutes. And you can imagine to be in the shoes of these on these characters. Hi, Anupama. I think you dropped out. We're just still reading the cards together on the mural before the conversation starts. Yeah, I just lost my connection. So sorry. No worries, no worries. There are some information in the back card, but you also can add some, some of your ideas and thoughts about the character. So one minute left. Are you ready? Okay. So let me start. As you know me, I'm Maria. And I finished my master's degree in environmental studies two years ago. And now we're working the municipality. And as I said, I need to do a vulnerability. This is a client and res assessment. And I have tried very hard to have meetings with everybody, but barely no one came over on the, on this meeting. I'm not the doors. And I will start with, with Sophia, because she reminds me a lot to my grandmother. So I will see, I will see Sophia. Dear, how are you? How are you doing? Okay. A few aches and pains. What's new? But isn't it? How are you doing? I haven't seen you in a long time. Yeah, you know, I just don't get around the way I used to. It's my leg. It's kind of troubling me. But you know, hey, I'm 21 years at heart, right? Sophia, Sophia, I'm trying to finish my race, a climate race analysis. And I haven't seen you in the meetings. What? Sorry, stop right there. I don't understand those big, low words. Sophia, sorry. Do you know that there are a lot of flooding lately in the, in the neighborhood? Yes. The effects of this flooding in all the community. And I was trying to do these meetings, but nobody came to the last two meetings. So I'm here now to hear you and to know what happened in your, in your home. When this, this flooding happened. Tell me, tell me what happened and why you didn't attend to the last meeting. Oh, thank you so much for coming to speak to me. You know, I'm so grateful because I just like love speaking with people in the community, but it's just a problem that I can't get around that easily anymore. So I'm really happy for your time. Yeah, you know, the flood. I didn't realize it was going to be such an issue here in this neighborhood when I moved from the countryside. It washes the sewage from the big open channels through the streets. It's disgusting. It comes into my house. It makes it dirty. I mean, of course, you know, I tried to put up a little piece of wood. You see, I have this one here. I tried to move it to keep the water out, but still it comes rushing in. Ah, when I moved here, I came because my relatives are here. They work here and they support me. But to be honest, Maria, they're away at the job all day and I'm all by myself. And you know, it's stressful. It's stressful. Yes, I'm sorry to hear that. I didn't know that you, you have these pains are, are, you are very, very happy to share your experience, but also to share like some ideas, how to deal with these floodings. So I will take care about your, your comments. How, how, how, how I can do. So you can participate more in the meetings and ideas, how, how, how I can manage the time or, or can I find somebody to help you to go to the meetings? Oh, that would be lovely. Oh, a friend to help me. That would be so nice. And you know, when you get a little bit older, like me, the temperature affects you. Oh, don't call something for the heat of the day, Maria. I just need to be in my house, relaxing and being as cool as possible. But if you call me out in the morning or, you know, towards the late afternoon, when it's not so hot, I can tolerate it. And if I have someone just to help me make sure that, you know, I can get there safely. I am safe in myself. You know, I can get over the uneven pavements and so forth. That's okay. Hey, look at the wisdom of, you know, a lady like me. I'm ready to share it. I love a good talk with my neighbors. It just has to be convenient. Yeah, yeah. Thank you. Thank you, Sophia. Sophia, I'm sure that the neighbors are going to listen to you. You have all this experience and you are our grandmother. So I'm, I'm, I'm, I know that you are going to help us. But let me ask something about the, about your family, because as you say, you made a decision to move into this neighborhood. But if you don't see your family so often, what do you do when the flooding happen? It's a matter of luck, Maria. You know, they're sweet. They come to me for the Sunday dinner. We love it. We sit together all of Sunday. We're together. It's so special. We go to mass together even in the church. But you know, what if the flood comes Monday to Friday? God Almighty. He doesn't plan the flood for Sunday when my relatives are there looking after me. So it's the luck. What's to happen if it comes when they're not there? Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, Sophia for sharing. Maybe we can, we can see some volunteers that can help you when, when your relatives are not here, as you say. So let's see. Let's see. I think you have a great ideas and now I understand better. So I will think more about the times and how is the, how is the room and see if I can have, I can organize some volunteers to help you. Thank you so much. Can I tell you one other thing? Yes, Maria. I love babies. Oh, I missed having the tickle, the little toes. If there's any, you know, need for babies. Call on me. That's a great idea, Sophia, because there are a lot of families with, with kids and we have a meeting and maybe you can have a role there like. Oh yes, please. Some are participating. You can see the babies, but also take turns with other moms or grandparents. It's a great idea. Sophia. Sophia. I'm running late. I am knocking every door in the neighborhood because I need to see all the needs. But thank you very much for the time. You are always very kind with me. So, so I will inform you if I have any new, or we have another meeting. Thank you very much. Thank you. Bye, my dear. Bye-bye. Wow. Yes. I love the conversation with Sophia. And now I see one Carlos. I think he, he just arrived from the school. Maybe I cannot. Stop. Hello, Maria. Hi. Hi. How are you? I saw that you just arrived from the school. Yes. I'm very busy. I have a lot of homework. So I immediately started homework. I also have a lot of work to do to support my aunt. Because she is quite old and she is also, also physically disabled. So I have to do all the work in the home as well. Don't worry. I only need five minutes of your time. And I don't remember how old are you? I'm 16 years old. Nice. Nice. Nice. Nice. And you are your aunt. How old is she? She is 62. Not that old. But the problem is that since, since she is 55, she is physically disabled because she has a multiple, multiple sclerosis. So she is not, she cannot work anymore. Okay. Juan Carlos, have you noticed that over the time we have a lot of floodings in our neighborhood? So I'm trying to understand why, what are the effects of the, of the floodings in, in every, in every home. So can you tell me more what happened when the, when the, the flooding happens on, on, on your home? What are the problems that you have, the problems with your aunt as well? Yeah. So it's very scary because the floodings are coming nearer and nearer. We didn't face a direct problem into our home, but I'm very afraid that well, maybe the next floodings or in some months we really will, will get affected as well. So I'm very, I'm very scared and I don't know what to do because we cannot move from here. So I feel that we are kind of stuck and there is no support. Also for the situation of my aunt as a disabled old lady. So I really do not know what to do. I'm sorry to hear that from Carlos and may ask, ask you because you know all the situation and maybe you have the good ideas because you are young and very, you know, why you didn't come to the last meeting and because I, I have been trying very hard to have everybody together, but I could, I could not do it. So it's, it's my study of course, but also because of the situation of my aunt, I can't leave her alone for a long time. So if I come from school, I always go home. So I cannot afford going to a meeting. Yeah. Yeah. I understand you. You have a lot of responsibilities. But maybe, maybe I can think any way to, to improve your situation. What will help you to, to improve the situation and go to the meetings. And help us to deal with the floodings. Well, if, if, if we can think of a kind of support for my aunt, maybe a wheelchair so that she can move here and there. Then, oh, I'm sure there is a dog. So, so if, if there, if there comes a kind of support for my aunt, then, then I am more free to not only go to meetings, but also help the neighborhoods. Thank you, Juan Carlos. I think it's a great idea. And you gave me like more information about that. I'm sure I will try to, to have these facilities for the next time, like a wheelchair, but also maybe a group of volunteers to help your aunt. And also taking advantage that I know that you are going to study law on the university. Maybe you have, you can, you can start to, to think, to check some policies. Yes, of course. I can do that. I can help with that. Yeah. I have some like informal classes with you. Yes. Your friends at the school. Yeah. And see how we can, lobby with the local governments of our neighborhood to see if they can, can provide more support. Thank you. Thank you, Juan Carlos, for your time. Please say hello to your aunt. And I will see the next meeting with all these good ideas that you have. Thank you very much. Oh, and Juan Carlos gave me a lot of ideas. About this vulnerability group, the disabled people. And anything, maybe I can go to Miguel, because he is a little bit late, so maybe he also probably arrived from his job. And talk to you. Coming. Hi. Hi. Good afternoon, Miguel. How are you doing? How is your family? Oh, it's been a long day, you know, working nine to nine, trying to make a living here. Yeah. It's just those days where you just feel like you want to be hopeless, but to keep on trying. How are you? Yeah. Thank you, Miguel, for receiving me as you notice we have, we have caught a lot of plugins lately. And I have been trying to have these meetings with all the neighborhood. And I know that you participate in the, in the last meeting that in the, in the previous meeting, but from the last one you didn't appear. So I wanted to check with you because you are always very enthusiastic. And I wanted to check you. Why you didn't come to this, the last meeting. You know, it's not easy being the only person in the house, you know, I'm trying to, to, to, to gather my strength and try to, to uplift my life, you know, having a wife who's at home all the time raising a child, thinking about university and studies and fees, you know, everything that just needs money. And I mean, I, I have to say this, I didn't, I was not aware of the meeting. I mean, for people like us who were nine to nine, sometimes nine to 12, it's hard to hear these conversations within people. You know, maybe if it wasn't social media, hashtag meeting or something like that, maybe we would have been able to pick it up because some of us really rely on social media for such things. So unfortunately this one missed me. Yes. I remember, I remember that you are like an IT professional. So maybe, maybe we can use all of your skills to inform more people about these, these floodings and the consequence. But let me, let me ask one question. And how, how has the flooding affected you and what will improve your situation to deal or to address these floodings, especially because I know that you are every day in the office, but your family is staying at home. It's, it's, it's getting really bad, you know, because I think having someone who is at home who really needs to use everything that's in the house, you know, from electricity, water supply and stuff. Now this flooding, it's, it was not as much as I thought we would learn about. And I think we were just not prepared for it, you know, I mean, for people like us who, who, who, who are tech savvy and who use computers and stuff, you know, we need, even if we're working from home, we need computers to operate with, you know, and when we don't have things like electricity, you know, it's very hard. It's hard, it's hard for even getting connection to the internet. So it's, it's, it's really hard. And for people like us who've got aspirations of moving places, you know, going to other places because we still young and we're still trying to make a living. It's, it's really affecting, you know, when you talk about things like the market, how you can, you can sell your house, how, so this whole thing is affecting, you know, I was even thinking of moving with my wife, you know, trying to, to, to, to find a better living and stuff. And this now has, has, has had a setback on me because even the the value of my flat is going to go down because there's a lot of things that need to be done, renovations and stuff. So it's, it's actually affecting me in a way that I did not think it would cause I thought, you know, I just paid everything, you know, on this person who's fresh, ready to move. And now I have to spend a lot of money that I don't have take saving from my son. And so it's just been like that. That's, that's the whole situation. Oh, Miguel, Miguel, I think probably all the community are going to miss you and your family. I hope until you sell your house, we can, you can help us and to provide this, this knowledge that you have with social media and also maybe your family, your wife and kids also can be volunteers to help others in the community. And I'm glad that you are trying to move, but also I'm very sad because we are not going to have you in the meetings. Definitely. I'm going to come with my wife because she's the one who's at home who understands what issues she's facing. You know, she understands everything that happens at home. She's actually the person who is the head of the house because she deals with everything. I just listen to whatever she says I need to do. And that's it. So I'm definitely going to come and even going to bring my son there because they need to learn these issues that the society is facing. So you can put my name on that list. I'm definitely coming. Thank you. Thank you, Miguel. It's going to be very useful. And I will try to have more information. And maybe you can help me to translate in a different ways with your ideas skills. Thank you, Miguel. See you in the next meeting. Hi. We'll see if Adelina is here. She told me on the chat that she's very busy and multitasking now. So if she's not here. She's. This is very live. Hi, Adelina. I know that you are very busy. I'm very busy. And normally I cannot speak with you. So taking advantage that you have a little bit of time. And can you tell me why, why didn't come to the last meeting? Well, you know, I, I'm very, very, very busy. I have three children who are very young. And I have to do a lot of housework. And it's very difficult to, to leave, to leave the house. And I have someone. And I have three children always needing my attention. And. Yeah, I can hear. I hear it. I hear your kids. Very busy. Yeah. Don't worry. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And what happened with your husband? Do you. Do you have some help from him? Or you are alone? What happened? He doesn't help much. He likes to, he likes to watch a lot of television. And he, he likes to go out with his friends a lot. And he's just not around a lot. And so it's quite difficult. It's quite difficult to, to, to manage everything on my own. Okay. And I'm sorry, sorry to hear that, but maybe, maybe for the next meeting we can find some support for the, from the volunteers on any support from, from any other neighborhood. And let me, let me ask some questions because I'm doing this a climate risk analysis. I would like to know how the flooding affects you and your family. Well, you know, when the flooding comes, it just, it just, it just inundates my house completely. It makes everything so stinky. And I have so much to clean up when, when I have to recover from, from flooding events. And it's, it's really, really tricky to try and keep the household running and the school clothes get wet. And I, and I, and I, I have to send the children without any school clothes to school. They have to wear their normal clothes. And yeah, it's just very, very difficult. To clean with the, when the, when the flooding arrives. Okay. Yes. It's the same for, for most of the, the neighbors. Let me, let me ask the last question because I know that you are busy and I don't want to take a lot of time with you. And let me, let me ask how, how I can help how I can create like a good environment and you can assist for the next meeting because I, your, your knowledge and your information is very valuable for me. So I would like to ensure that you are going to be in the next meeting. How, how we can do this. I think maybe if we do the meeting at certain times in the evening, it's very difficult for me to do the meetings. But in the mornings when the children are at school, it's always a good time. I think it's very, very difficult for me to do the meetings because those times are better. And then it's easier for me to get away from the house. And my husband doesn't really like me going away on my own, but in the mornings he's at work. And he's not really around so I can, I am a little bit freer to do what I need to do and go where I need to go. Yeah. That's a great, great idea. Yeah. I think it's going to be great to have a, like a focus group and only all women. So you don't have to, to be aware or worry about your husband. And thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. He doesn't really like it when I am with a group of men. Yeah. With a group of women. Yeah. Yeah. It can work perfect. And maybe, maybe we should try that. Your husband is not too old. Maybe he can be volunteer. You know, we have a people or people and people without any visibility. Maybe your husband can help. And maybe he's going to be more aware about the flattens. Yeah. Absolutely. I think the more he gets involved, the more aware he becomes and it will make it better. Okay. Well, I see your kids around Adelina. So I, I will let you go with your kids and don't worry because I know that you are a little bit worried that your husband is coming. So thank you very much. And I will take in account all the ideas that you gave me. So thank you very much for the time Adelina. Thank you. It was very special for you to come and visit me. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Adelina. Well, Adelina gave me a lot of ideas to have these, these different groups and talk about flattens and the solution. I think it was great to have Adelina. And let me, let me go to Lucia. Hi, Maria. Hi Lucia, how are you doing? It's a long time I haven't seen you. It is. Yeah. Sorry. I'm trying to make supper here. The kids are chaotic. So sorry. Don't worry Lucia and Lucia. I know that everybody's busy is why I'm, I am here trying to visit. Any house and house per house. So let me, let me ask something Lucia. How, how are you dealing with the flattens that we have had lately? Oh, it's been terrible, Maria. The home is a mess. I've had to do so much cleaning. It's just totally dirty. And I mean, the kids, they, you see, they walk through all this water to get to school. It's just really terrible for the whole family. Hi, I see Lucia and I know that you work. You're working other houses, right? So for you maybe it's like a lot of more effort. Yeah, I work all day at other people's houses cleaning. And I come home and I work all night cleaning my own house and taking care of the kids. So yeah, it is just very busy right now. Yeah. And Lucia and your husband, your husband can help you with cleaning or with some mess that the flooding does. What happened with your husband? He's around, but he's not, he doesn't help out that much. Oh, okay, okay. Maria, I have been, you see, I have been trying to, to have some meetings about the flooding and how it affects, but no, nobody came up the last time. Why you didn't attend the last meeting? I really wanted to, but I just didn't know what to do with the kids. You know, after work, I need to take care of them and, and make supper and help them with their homework. And, and so I just didn't really know what to do with the, with the children during the meeting. Yes. Yes. I understand. And we have three kids of this. They are always all around, but what I can do to, to have you in the meetings, because I know that you have a lot of experience. You are inside and outside. So you can see different things. So I would like to have you in the meeting. So what I can do. I would like to have you in the meeting. I would like to have you in the meeting. I would like to have you in the meeting. For you. To support you and you can go to the, you can come to the meetings. Yeah. I think if, if I had some, someone to take the kids, then maybe me and my husband could come. Both of us. And if, if they weren't held during the day, you know, I have to be at work all day. So I can't take time off to attend the meeting. Or on a holiday or Sunday. Okay. That would be better. Thank you, Lucia. I just remember I went to, I went to Sophia's house and also to fan Carlos. And maybe Sophia, Sophia likes so much the kids. And she, she will volunteer as a child care. Like a baby sit there. If I can say, so maybe, maybe if, if, if Sophia can take care of the kids, we can make a, we can make them the meeting and we can have you on the meeting. So this is an idea. Maybe Juan Carlos as well. And how Carlos is, is they young and he can have all the energy for playing. So maybe, maybe we can make these arrangements and make a group of volunteers to have new in the meetings. And you also gave me the, the idea to have these meetings on the weekends. And I, I see that I had this meeting with Miguel, but also he works in most of the time. So maybe it's a good idea to have these meetings on, on, on the weekend. Yeah, that would be great if, if Sophia could help with childcare. That would really help out a lot. Yes. Yes. Thank you. I, you know, her and your trust on her. So maybe you, we have a support. From others. Thank you, Lucia. I know that you are preparing the soup. It smells very, very good. And I will let you keep doing your, the things. So thank you very much, Lucia. See you around and thank you for your time. Yeah, thanks for visiting Maria. Bye. Thank you. I think I visit all the neighbors that I had to visit today. Thank you very much for your insights and your. Your opinions and your ideas to, to improve this, this meetings. And thank you for the means. So many inputs for my climate and vulnerability. Here is analysis. Thank you. Was that everybody who played. Sorry, mighty. Oh, sorry. Was that, was that everyone who played? Yeah. I think everybody already played. Okay. Okay. Okay. Great. And so the next part is to have a little bit of reflection about the first round of the role play. You all stepped into character, including me and Patty. And we're going to just to have a think about what it. What, what you learned about the climate risks for different groups of people from being in their shoes. So we're just navigating here. I'm showing the bottom of the mural. And I think you all have got editorial rights. So you can just like click on a yellow box and start writing, just start writing what comes to your mind. And also if somebody wants to comment on life. To see the feelings and how, how did you feel when you would in the shoes or other shoes? I will say one thing that struck me. So I was playing a lady who's a bit older than I actually am in real life. And Sophia's story was that she was really lonely, but she was just absolutely desperate to interact with people. And actually you can turn that into, you know, like opportunity, you know, in the context of collective climate action. So the game made me feel that there's real complementarity and the different, you know, kind of needs and desires and availabilities of the different characters in this game, which are probably reflected in real life. I mean, I don't live in a Latin American neighborhood like the game, but, you know, I live in, in the United Kingdom, but there's a lot of loneliness, you know, that's documented in the more elderly population, people who don't work, but, you know, real desire to be active in the community. So that's one of my reflections. I guess I'll put it down. But others, please, please chip in what you thought and felt. Amy, you are on the other, if you want to talk, yeah. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, I think one thing that struck me was just people's different ways or abilities to cope. Like there is that one person who talked about moving away. And that was an opportunity that he had, whereas like others, that just was not an option for them. So they just kind of were like, I'm here and I just have to deal with this situation, whereas others are like, well, I have, I could actually move away and cope in that way. So just, yeah, that different like levels of access to, or abilities to cope in different ways. Yeah. And also the different needs of people. And all people have different needs. So it really is an issue of one by one. Something struck me about one Carlos this time that I didn't think about before, which is about how he feels politically disempowered. Because when you first look at his card, you think he's got his life ahead. He has got every, he's young. He's strong. He's intelligent. But actually he realizes he's missing the political connections now to mobilize support from the local government. And it makes him really frustrated. So the game, I guess, made me realize that and think about how someone who might have other connections could really help on behalf of the group to lobby for better services. I think one thing that I've noted from this game is that even though we have some families who have a mom and a dad, their relations are different. You can have two families that look similar, but the relations between the mom and the dad, the responsibilities of the home and stuff. So the gender roles in between the households are different from each and every household. Eddie, can I say something? First, I forgot about Roberto. Sorry. Should we play Roberto? Yeah, let's play. I'm sorry. Now that I made the list, I forgot about Roberto. So Anupama. Let's try, right? I'm going to be seeing Roberto this time. I hope he's at home because I know that he was in the city. Is Roberto here? Hello, yes, I'm here. Hi, Roberto, how are you doing? Sorry, I am a little bit late. I told you that I'm going to be at seven and now it's seven thirty, so I'm sorry to be late. How are you doing? I'm fine this day, but I'm also not fine because I have a chronic and I usually feel very low. I have to walk very hard. I understand, I understand Roberto. The days are not so good. Yeah, and also you have to travel to your office and sometimes you feel a little bit weak, so I understand. As you know, a lot of flooding has happened lately and I'm trying to do a recent vulnerability assessment and I run so many meetings, but barely no one, anyone came of the first meeting. So I want to know why you didn't come to the last meeting. Oh, you know, I walk in the city, my job is far from here and when I come back, like I'm very busy all the time, cleaning up the mess that the flood has caused in my house. So it's very difficult and I'm so low of energy all the time. I face lots of problems, so I couldn't attend the meeting. Oh, sorry about that. And how I can help you with this problem, maybe, and maybe I'm thinking that probably I have a group of volunteers to help you, how I can change the situation that you cannot come to the meetings? Oh, if I don't have fear to lose my job and if my family will support me, then of course I can attend the meeting. You know, this time, since my family had known about my disease, then they have just sewn their back. They are not helping me. They are not around me. So if you could just help me with the coordination and communicating with my families. Thank you for sharing with me this, Roberto, because I think there are very nice neighbors in the community. So maybe Miguel or Juan Carlos or even Sofia, do you know Sofia? She's very caring, so maybe when you feel lonely, you can talk with Sofia and also you can be volunteer on the weekends to help Sofia to go also to the meetings. So it's a win-win. What do you think about that? Yes, I also know Sofia and she's very kind lady, but I'm not sure whether her family or other neighbor will be okay if I go and talk with her and she's okay talking with the chronic disease, with the patient of the chronic disease. If she's okay, then I'll be very grateful. Maybe Roberto, we can also show the people that you don't have any rare disease or you have a disease that is nothing happening to be with one or another person. So maybe we can inform more about your disease and how do you feel and how you are dealing with loved ones. So I think it's part of the community, right? Yes, of course. If you could talk, then it would be a great favor for me. It would be a great help. And related with your job, maybe because you say that you cannot be absent from your job. So maybe we can use your talents in another way. Maybe you can organize the information or maybe we can find different ways that you can help us. Or on the weekends or when you don't have to go to the job. Yeah, I can do that. Okay. Thank you, Roberto, so much. I think you are a little bit tired. So I will let you rest and I will see what I can do to have you in the next meetings. Thank you very much, Roberto. Thank you. Thank you for visiting me. Thank you. Bye-bye, Roberto. Bye-bye. Thank you everybody again. It's nice to have the insight of another character, isn't it? I think that the Roberto character is sort of a classic case of disabilities can be hidden. You know, sometimes you don't know everything you think you know about a person when you first meet them. Yeah, it's true. And I can comment as a facilitator or to be in the role of Maria. And you know, when you are like a public service or public specialist, you don't normally don't have the opportunity to go and see the reality and you only have the models and you know what happened with the floodings. But I think we don't see very deeply what the difference between one person to the other. And we think that everything works for everybody. So for me, this is like an ice breaker or to break the glass to see that there are more things than the models that you can do in your computer. So obviously for to do the plan, the adaptation plan, you need to see all the difference and all the different ways that you can participate and to help. Nice one. Yeah, maybe we could put that in the reflections. It's about seeing people's different circumstances beyond the models from a planner's perspective. Yeah, definitely. I think I also felt that the characters were very time poor. It's like the officer character comes assuming, you know, everyone has got time for the meeting because they have a steak. They have a steak in the, you know, the health of the neighborhood and they do, but they have so many competing priorities too. How about the rest of you? Let's move on and think a bit more expansively about these other questions. What does it make you think? Amy wants to talk. Just kind of building off your comment. Like I think in a lot of programming, we want women to be actively involved and to participate, but then it's like adding, you know, another element onto the page. So like, I guess the question is how do we have active engagement of women while also considering that extra burden that gets added and how do we consider that in our programming? So more question than an answer, I think, but that was really highlighted. You're on mute, my, but I agree. Amy is very important. What did you say? Because yes, like all the donors or all the project managers want to include more women. So I think it's really important that we don't see the specific needs that they have, right? And we need to see how we can accommodate, like for example, to have these focal groups only for women and to have like somebody to see the kids. So, but, but yes, as I said, like sometimes you cannot see the taste or this needs very quick from outside you have to go like deeply with the characters or with the people that is in the community. I think for me, the game reminds me of the importance of adaptive management. You know, we talk a lot of about in the broader CDKN training course about having a gender responsive budget. Like ideally you should have money as the planner or the project manager to pay for daycare, you know, for all the facilities that women need. You could be also facilities for nursing mothers, also the wheelchair for the people who are not very mobile. Ideally this would be all sort of professionalized and fully targeted for. But I guess the reality is that it takes you a while to identify what those differential needs are in a certain situation. And sometimes you can't plan and budget with exact precision from the very beginning. So I think there probably has to be a degree of, you know, sort of staging your project so that you can release resources and accommodate those different needs as you go along. But also as Maria, the character said in her interactions, to see if there are any sort of in kind resources, you know, that people can volunteer to give to support each other as they go along as well, which don't cost anything. Does any of you want to tell us a bit more about your project ground and where you're coming from? And if you've had any field experiences in this, in doing this, and maybe we could talk a bit about the last question too. Did you get any new ideas about how to approach climate change adaptation in practice? Did you remark anything that you're doing already? I don't want to dominate the conversation here. But yeah, I didn't introduce myself at the beginning. I'm Amy Martin. I work for an organization that works in like 70 countries worldwide. And I'm based in Canada. So I'm kind of an overall project or program coordinator for disaster response. And as part of that, I'm sort of a climate change focal point within the organization. So I don't directly work in the field. I do partner with local organizations who do the field based work. And then we have in-country staff that kind of do more of a mentorship accompanying process with those organizations. And I'm more like technical advice and coordination of funding, stuff like that. In terms of that question, like how to approach climate change adaptation in practice. I think part of the problem is that we often deal in silos like where we have a food security project or we have like an education project or we have a project that's working on like gender equity. And so I think that part of what this has really highlighted is that our adaptation work also needs to include elements of gender transformation because we can't have, we can't just, yeah, it's not enough just to have women participating in a project. We need to address some of these in balance, like unbalances in like how household tasks are being distributed, for example, as part of a larger sort of resilience adaptation strategy. So maybe that's one takeaway for me. Great, perfect. So what is your organization Amy? It's Mennonite Central Committee. Thank you. Anna Palmer, if I might call on you because you're on my screen, how about aligning this with Mercy Corps experience? Did you recognize some of the dynamics here and some of the solutions as well? Do you have other sort of gender equity solutions that you've applied in field projects? Actually, telling you the truth, because I had played the role of the male part. So post what I failed was if the interviewer or if the facilitator was a male and because I was playing the part of a chronic disease and then I would have tell him more the confident and the more like, you know, I would have our conversation would have gone more deeper that I failed. And like, even it happens in our field, like we are working in disaster and it's not a pure disaster, but it is also integrated project where we walk for livelihood and we have some market as well. And we look on to the JC as well. So we are when we do the work, like when that time when the man is known as a bread owner of the family, then he's also facing the impacts of the climate change. Like as he as the, you know, the one I have played the role of the humans and like he had to clean the mess of the like the flood what he had what he faced in his room or his house. Then it also shows that the workload is not only in the women, it is also for the male members if they are leaving alone and they are also suffering from the chronic disease because they they can't like they can't go and in in the context of like Naples man or Indian as we we know a lot of India we are very close to India so we are very similar to Indian Indian and Naples man they they are known as the bread winner of the family. They don't cry. They don't go and tell you their part of sadness to the other so that is a little bit of like practical society that have created the work burden or workload in the meals as well and they cannot flow their emotions. So that is also what I learned like if if there was a different approach then we should think in that part as well that if there are male also who are also affected with these kind of mentality or stereotypes. Yes, yes. Hello to Patti's helper. I think we've got it. We've all got a lot of helpers today. Yeah and it can have a mental health burden on them actually. You know the expectations of men you know can create pressure and also the lack of acceptance for them to talk about their feelings you know in some culture in many cultures actually and the CDN Latin America team has done quite a lot of work on sort of masculinity. Haven't they Patti in the region sort of concepts and expectations of masculinity and how it can be helpful for men and women to talk about that when it comes to gender roles not just about femininity and you know what's expected of women. So no it's good. We're actually coming towards the end of our time and I know some people have had to drop off but quickly now going to the point of you know we've given you an introduction to the game. How to improve it and do you think that you might use the game in some way you know for your work? Just an open question really. Yeah I think like as part of my role I do do a lot of like trainings for more field-based staff and so and we've tried to do various like role-playing type exercises related to situation assessment or like context assessment and gender analysis. So this is kind of I see this as being like another tool in our toolkit for adapting because I think it could be adapted to be wider than just related to climate risks and it definitely is applicable in other situations. So yeah I could see us adapting this style of game for training on what sort of larger like gender analysis piece as part of project planning. Okay great well please do feel free and as we said at the beginning you know the other regional versions on the website as well. Yeah and we have we did a rather long version of round one of the game today we took quite a bit of time to dive deep into it but you can sort of use the cards for lightning you know versions as well and if people are there in person you can have them taking cards and moving around the room and speaking to each other and stuff so I think we've discovered haven't we Patti that you know can let your imagination be your guide really in using it different ways. Great well that's it for me I think I'm going to introduce the the Mentimeter and the evaluation now unless you wanted to say any wrap up while we're still in the mural Patti or anyone else Patti and Mary. Yeah okay let's go back could you slide share not only the the last two slides of the slide pack number 19 and number 20 just the closing of the session. Okay okay can you use there we go that's it okay yeah we've already done that so just the last the very last slide after that please thank you so much. So we just have a quick evaluation three minutes on Mentimeter to give feedback on on the game in the session today and then we put all of our email addresses as well in case you want to keep in touch so I guess we'll just leave that up there on the screen and for the next few minutes and yeah thanks Patti there Patti pasted the mentee URL there so you can click through easily from the chat box too. Perfect and then we'll just say thank you very much for joining it was really a pleasure to have you here. Yeah thank you so much for facilitating it's always useful just to to see how others facilitate sessions especially like with the transition to online training. So like just as on a personal note that's very like really helpful to know how you facilitate things online and you did great so thanks for that as well. I'm sweating here because of the weather but also because of the facilitation online it's not my experiment. It's hard work it's hard work it's hard work actually. I hope you get a glass of wine and can start your evening with some relaxation Patti. Some ice cream with Thomas. Perfect Perfect. So thank you very much. Thank you nice to meet you. Bye bye everyone. Thank you very much. Bye bye. Thanks. Good day. Not really I think the main team didn't work. Oh it did not work. I could not like access but maybe it's me. Oh it works for me actually. Ah thank you. It said it also said I must wait for Jisenda to show the next slide. I don't know maybe. In my case also they say please wait for Jisenda to show the next slide. Oh So I think we don't have the role I think probably also only Sisi has the role. Oh yes Maybe Oh it's okay we only have like two participants in the end. Yeah It's okay. Okay I did get some email address from Eteca. I think it's Eteca. She did leave in the chat that she would like to hear some more information and stuff. So I did take her email address. So yeah I think we will be able to at least send her the Mentimeter. She will get something. So I'm also just eavesdropping on the session. Hi Sisi. I'm going to get the notes of the people that were in the session but also it does seem like the usefulness question was answered by the participants. So I think in terms of how I can wing this one. Yes and what I can do is this is download the mirror and you have the notes there. So maybe it's like a mean verification as well. Sure. Yeah that would be very helpful. Thank you. Look here it's very warm. It's 30 degrees. And I was nervous that I am sweating. I couldn't tell Patti. You look cool as a cucumber to me. And you know I was a little bit nervous at the end because I forgot about Roberto. I wasn't sure. I said did everyone play? I felt like maybe we missed someone but I couldn't figure out who it was. You know like when you're in the moment? Yeah. Don't worry. Because I held my notes and then I went through all the characters and I see that Roberto was missing. It's okay. Everyone was super nice. Yes. I think they enjoyed. For me I took this as a learning because I was waiting for the person to say something meaning in reality we do have people who don't get time to be recognized. So by the virtue of us remembering that there's someone who has not participated I felt like it made something about us and how we do things. So I think I'm a little bit okay with us having one person we forgot about not that we forgot but we didn't mention and then going back to revisit the person. Also. Yes, that's true. It's part of the facilitation as well. That was nice. Okay, well should we go have a rest? Yes. Bye bye. Thank you very much. Bye bye.