 You're welcome back to the breakfast on Plus TV Africa. Just on the back of the conversation we just had with the spokesman of the Irrigue Development Association, we've invited Mr Mohamed Abdelahi, he's the chairman of the Mieti Alla Cattle Breeders Association in Plateau State. Good morning Mr Abdelahi. Good morning ma'am. I first want to hear your side of the story representing you know the Fulani Cattle Breeders Association in Plateau regarding the attack that occurred in Nyango in Plateau State on Saturday and Sunday. Now the people in the community say that Fulani herdsmen allegedly attacked them twice, first early in the day and later at night burning over 250 houses. Can you tell me what really are the facts according to you? Let them tell you the gospel truth of what is happening in Nyango and its areas. On Wednesday it was not on Saturday but it started on Wednesday where they attacked Rafim Pawna and killed nine cows and then a one herder which on Friday mocks are not able to attend their Friday prayers because of the afraid of attack by Irrigue. Where they were moving themselves in Kwa Chudu and and and the book Mayango which on Saturday they went to pack to to hold in sophisticated firearms with their masquerades. Four of their masquerades were there that they will fight and finish Rafim Pawna and Fulani that are residing that area which immediately they informed me I informed the security agencies which they were prompt and they went there and they helped any other further killings in the area. Though we lost so many people and we so many of the injured now we have in different hospitals about 16 persons in with different degree of injuries and then and then we have recorded five dead persons and some other missing until now we have not ever to see that but they continue complaining that it they have been attacked they have been attacked who attacked them where and how. So what where is the reports of dozens killed and 250 houses burnt are you saying that that report is false? Let them say the gospel truth let them discuss to you what exactly happened because these Irrigue people they have compounded their own problem where they may nobody control their own problem because they went as far as the killing people in the same basal local government they went to south and killed people they went to Riyam and killed people went to Barikil Ladi they went to just east they went to just north and so on and so forth they crossed the plateau that they went to Pauchi state and killed another people killed their cows just recently about a week ago they lost they killed six herders in Kaduna state and roasted their 362 cows moved them into the area and killed all the cows there. So exactly what is happening in Baisa in Myanmar is somebody cannot say it exactly but they know what they have done and who are they are fighting with all right but it is not our own people because our people are there come in the villages and they are they are looking at this happening there. All right well we're not we're going to focus on plateau state now and not talk with regards Kaduna because you just mentioned Kaduna the news reports say that you know dozens of people were killed in the last 48 hours in that local government area and also about 250 houses were burnt so are you saying that that never happened and instead it is these Irrigue community persons that are attacking full and ease in different local government areas. Let them tell you what they did before they they have been attacked if really they have been attacked. Okay well so what I want what I want is confirmation that was there any attack on the Irrigue community and were dozens killed were 250 houses burnt like the news reports are saying. Wait I cannot I cannot testify to that exactly because I am not there I cannot see things by myself I is only information I've been given but I was told some since on Saturday security agencies were beefed of police and the operation self-heaven are all there in the in the area and they are trying to halt any other for that killing so if they tell me that the houses was 250 were burnt people were killed and I will be stopped let the security agencies tell us what they are doing there to halt the killings and the structures of property which I don't think it is true if they are just saying it to to to to just give the house keep the house sympathy for other communities and government and so on and so forth. Alright so can you confirm if there were can you confirm if there have been any reprisal attacks because from your statement now it seems like just the Irrigue community were present from the Irrigue community attacking full and ease so would you confirm if there have been any you know counter attacks of the full and ease you know how to fight back or you know attack these communities back in the last 72 hours. All the leaders I am talking to in Bazaar local government that is my community leaders they are telling me there is nothing like that it has not happened and they are very common in the villages especially Maraban, Tere, Tuzdenkura, Katume, Rafim Bauna and so on and so forth. They are very common there before yesterday the commissioner of what is called me around 11 o'clock o'clock in the night I find out some of the leaders you are even on their sleeve like the art work of mango was on your sleeve and he told me let him confirm and later on he called me he told me there's nothing going on in the area so I am this talk if they said somebody has attacked them with the heavy security places they are just by the backyard of the the third armored division and they are telling me there have been attacks and nothing has been done it is baffling me it is disturbing me these people are not telling you the girls the truth because they are not got fearing people they will just tell you something and information that we we give them sympathy and they will not get that sympathy they are looking for. So Mr Abdelahi what do you know about the fight for ancestral land in miango plateau state because the spokesman of a river community mentioned that that's what the bone of contention is that full annee headers so to speak want to take over their ancestral land and that's why they are attacking them and trying to displace them from their community forget about this is that that's what they are saying since 2005 they displaced all the full annees around there within their mix live behind their houses their their landed properties all other household properties and fly away and they are up to today not in miango district and called district no full annee existed in these areas though they have some properties we are the irrigate testify that yes they know about their own properties but they are not there some of them fly to kaduna state some of them fly to bautism state and so on and so forth so if they tell you that story who are those flighties within their own area that are attacking them. Mr Abdelahi just for the bigger picture do you see a likely end so this clashes that we have in between farmers headers especially those of full annee extraction and what do you think that one more Mr Abdelahi and also what do you think that religious leaders traditional rulers like yourself can do to douse the tension. Before I answer you I want to ask a question please ask irrigate people all other communities surrounding irrigate about five or six communities including the attend people the of ganawari the the kamarunchawai the rukuba the aphids are they are more and so on and so forth that surround irrigate land as today often today in peace with everybody there is no skirmishes in the area why is it continually pitting itself in the irrigative though why all other communities are in peace that their own community is always on fire what is happening we let them ask we let us be held our discussion number two how to stop these killings and destructions number one is justice must be done if injustice is there then we may not get the peace we are looking for so we need fear play to everybody and treat everybody equal so that everybody means we have the sense of belonging number two we need a strong collaboration between government security agencies we the community leaders traditional leaders religion leaders and other opinion leaders to come out and sit on table and talk the issues and profile solutions to the issues if not these killings will continue and then finally on the security end they should be free and fair to everybody all right uh nuru abdullahi the chairman meet here like how to breeders uh association in platterstake thank you very much for your time this morning thank you thanks for sharing your perspective with us good morning all right and that's where we will be wrapping up this morning on the breakfast really really tense conversations here and there but thanks for joining us if you missed out on these things and you would like to catch up remember to catch us up on our social media platforms it is at plus tv africa on facebook and instagram same with our youtube channel at plus tv africa and of course at plus tv africa lifestyle i am also gay and i am a netta philx asking you to have a beautiful Tuesday