 All right, so this is part two three four I don't even know where we are anymore, but bow is gonna narrate the Fannie Mae trade at the most famous trade I think in all of Penny stocks everything OTCs anything so he got us. We're kind of ready to go so bow Perfect. Yeah. All right guys So I've never ever talked about this in detail like this. I've actually never really shown anybody this I you see on some of the MIC ask us fuck man We're trying to get people to join in they see this because it's real I really don't like to talk and brag about this other people have actually done the bragging and talking for me, but This is Harry this is the first time I and James I've shown you guys. I mean, that's a thing I mean if I mean take a look at that dude, so I was trading Fannie Mae with four accounts. I Wish I had more data than this But so these are the four accounts each one of them. So there's two sterling and The bottom is thoughts so there are four different accounts and they're all trading Fannie Mae You see like juice added up man 400 this is all mind you and maybe four hours of trading Four fucking hours of trading bro, not swinging scalping So when you say that you can't scalp definition scalping varies from one person to another person, right? So I was just so if you add that up man, so first account was four sixty six hundred five hundred fifty four and 200 so that adds up to one so it's two hundred two It should be like one 1.42 so I think I should add to 1.4 1.42 million in Four hours in four fucking hours This is on five point nine and mind you I was making money all that week So it's not like oh you got lucky on one fucking trade. Yep So I'm gonna tell you something man It's this is the culmination of everything I fucking learn and I didn't woke up one day having I Call it luck, but luck is because of preparation, right? Yeah, make your own luck, right? Yeah, I'd work luck is when preparation meets opportunity and so People have lucky, you know, you make your own luck. So it just so happens that I just did it I don't know I this is probably I've wanted a billion That if I can go back to that day that I could do this Because it's a combination of getting the feels I wanted to do exactly what I wanted to do, right? And so When people see this it's like I don't like really talk about this because it's not very realistic Yeah, this is just like the crowning achievement of my career up to that point, right my basic the P&L Now I don't look at this as like, you know, this is basically like My crowning achievement is helping people to be honest. Yeah. Yeah, so that's the thing So so I'm gonna narrate how they happen. So during the week you take a look at the stuff I have a three-day rule. I made the three-day rule kind of famous on Twitter. Yeah So so I before the three-day three days is actually day zero I call it the day zero when you sneak in the volume is a sticky little fucking day, right? Where they're getting their insiders in and then the next day they blow it out, right? Yeah And so you count the day so the day zero are 522 and 523 Yeah, I could tell yeah It's basically barely moved right like 20 cents. Yeah, just slowly creeps. It's creeping two days 20 cents a day Which on a penny stock is nothing, right? Yeah, exactly. And then all of a sudden boom volume comes in on 524 Out of nowhere. So technically that is day You know, you could call that day day two or day one It's it's it's up to you to decide. So that was the so so what happens on the three-day rule is this guys The day zero if you're lucky to spot day zero Okay, sometimes they use a staker and they take things right so a lot of these people try to like anticipate when you die too So you can be size in so where I'm sizing in is on 524 So 524 happens on day training everything and the end of day. I'm like this is still day one. Yeah Okay, day zero day one. So I am in master size overnight. Maybe 48,000 shares For paying thoughts, that's a master size. Yeah, okay 40,000 shares or something like that And then we'll be fucked it gaps up some instantly. I'm up like I'm fucked or I don't fuck it. It's right Yeah, I'm up like they like I said I was making 50 hundred grand a day up leading to the big day, right? So and then on 528. I'm like, dude, this is scary This is scary territory four dollars is scary fucking territory, right? It's because it came from $2 bro. And this is day two or day three, right? And I'm like the and so 528 I was actually trying to sort some too. So midday you see like a lot of people try to sort at four dollar line And then it held it right but but I knew I had a secret rule that told everybody These thoughts will not go down unless they wanted to go down and it's usually triggered by the stock going Red on the day And that's how we get to the first red day rule that we use for for every stock Now, right? Doesn't matter if it's OTC small cap or large cap. Yeah, they runner. So in MIT We call the F all D first red day And this is where that comes from first red day. So so these guys are geniuses Whatever on Twitter. I'll give a damn. They're sure in this shit too early. Yeah, I understand because I'm a day trader, right? They're a fundamentalist they look at filings. It's worthless and all you know say bullshit So I'm not gonna get to the callus. I run this There's a bunch of callus that that that drove this up like this, but I'm just talking about pure technical stuff You don't have to do any one of males in which I didn't do any fucking fundamentals I just I looked at the news the government was pumping this shit up and all that stuff, right? So I'm using my fucking rules, which is the three-day rule in the first red day rule So I gap so I gap so each day that goes up. I gap much less. I Think I'm in 15 that 15,000 shares only something like that on on 528 overnight gapping And during pre-market. I was I thought that was a talk of these they they kind of gap down or do you know? It's all funky shit, right? Yeah. So and so I try to short some I actually lost I was actually red at the start. I was like, fuck Right This is how I am man, doesn't matter losing dollar dollar or fucking hundred thousand. I'm so pissed I'm down like four thousand, but I was up like hundred grand a day before I have so pissed right doesn't matter, right? And so I knew like okay pre-market. So this thought Used to be a New York Stock Exchange thought large cap. Yeah, these be fifty dollars. And so that's why I traded pre-market Pure OTCs don't usually trade pre-market. It's because there are algos Left over from New York Stock Exchange. Yep, all the way up. They use me Citadel Arca showing size of a hundred thousand two hundred thousand three hundred thousand share bids and offers Yeah, because it's still using the same algos from New York Stock Exchange and So pre-market I had to get up early and I was actually red and so but when it opened up it started running I was like fuck. Yeah. So remember I was in the tour of the big time long back there And so and so I started piling in on this spot And I was in two hundred thousand shares long at the open Jesus Right. And so this is at four dollars and thirty eight whatever four dollars and whatever, right? So you can't look at the time 939 30 that was that was when OTC opens So there was no supposedly no pre-market. That's why it doesn't show the chart, right? But there's like a bunch of funky action on the pre-market So I was in 200,000 shares that four counts and I was not All-forward I was trained with maybe three or four million dollars a night and these across these accounts, right? So I had a shit little buying power left and so I had probably like a million dollars of open orders and And a million dollars of stock that I already own Right. And so when I started running up, I was like trying to bare step myself I wanted to feel more but I couldn't after a certain point. I was like fuck. I'm not gonna feel Yeah, and so but this is a genius part. I didn't cancel my fucking orders That's my buy-in the dumb fuck The dumb greedy fucks ran it up because you're thinking there's a million-dollar bid behind the scene So it's the same thing as an algo putting a fucking million-dollar bid, right? But it was legal because like fuck I wanted to feel he could have said me But he didn't send me so notice they fucking squeeze the fuck on the short the shorts Blow down the water and I had a very good timing. So at the very top when I wanted to sell my 200,000 share long I Fucking what I did was I did a fucking sell order, but I oversold and I think I was sold like 500,000 shirts at the top Yeah, so I fucking you know how I sold it. I was able to sell the liquidity is because I didn't go through night I fucking slam the arc of the night I planned every route I had and city city Citadel had showing like 200,000 shares myself I swiped every single mother fucker off the bed So you imagine five hundred thousand shares at five something that's like two point five million dollars of a penny stock And then all of the ECNs got swiped and I was scared bro. They still I was in my pants. They filled me in they filled me in like ten seconds So Remember this is running up, bro This is running up. So it's an order for me to exit I'll give you I'll give you good tip in order if you play size the only way to exit a stock when you're playing size is To be ahead of the curve to sell when there are people still buying If this thing have reversed Game the fuck over I sold this shit on the way up I Happened to nail it right at the fucking top and when I nailed it. I shorted I was like this motherfucker is going to go down when I wanted to go down So I shorted the fucking shitload 300,000 shares or something at the very top. I pulled all my fucking by all of a sudden Market makers were short 500,000 shares at the top So you imagine You're stuck out of fucking thousand shares Not only me But there are other guys that are like me and now they're stuck millions of shares on the top because I What other guy do you shorted the same fucking shit? I did so we probably shorted 800,000 shares of this four million dollars of this shit, right? So now we stuck so now if you take a look at the top They're stuck now with 500,000 shares at five something at the very top and I'm sitting here with a massive Fucking 200,000 shares. I'm already up like a quarter million Realized at the top Right because it ran for four books of five bucks or something like that And so I was like fuck dude. This is great. I'm up 250,000 one of us. I thought I was like happy fuck But I did I thought was like and so but when I shorted it. I We did The big most was all the ECM, which is the Arca's and the city city bells Oh, that's it. So I was and then I fucking stuff night, too That's fucking night play took in front of my shirt, too. Yeah, I kept on shorting this shit I was scared because it filled me so fast, but then I thought I was a fuck you imagine I'm stuck with 300,000 shares and Every fucking painting goes up. I'm like three G's or something What was the biggest size you had on on it the goal is like the biggest you got 300,000 shares are some shit again. He's this Christ. So that's what I said So every painting on a 300,000 share is that it's three grand, right? Yeah You imagine every picture three thousand dollars rough Jesus and so that's why I crater down like this It cradled down because they were stuck so much of this shit and the parabolic it was day three every Fucking rule everything I learned up to that point Yeah To use it to do this trade first red day and then I what I did was this I covered at the bottom I waited a way that waited. I didn't fucking stop this shit because Bolton board like this is much easier to time They had the level to the level twos look great on that I could read the fucking level twos I knew exactly that I was trained to ship for so long I knew exactly what night and everybody was doing and so at the very bottom guess what I did Covered my shit went fucking long Is the same exact shit? So I bought all the motherfucking shit that all these motherfuckers dump loaded all the way back to full bucks. Boom. I was up. I Was up 1.8 million at that point And I was like, yeah, bitch, I'm gonna go for two million Two million that day. I almost made I was going for two million And so what what happened was what happened was I saw I was I was up to like 1.8 mil bro Yeah, well once something like that 1.6 to 1.8 And so I there was a 50 cent slippage So if you take a look at so I shorted so I went long and I sold at 4 bucks, right? Yeah, and then if you take a look at down so on the way down take a look at down I covered on the bottom But they wouldn't fucking film me or some shit and so during that 50 cents up now That consolidation up down that was where I lost like two two to four Yeah, I did the last two times and I'm done fuck this shit closed up shot at 1.4 1.8 I was up at 1.8 at one point and then due to the huge slippage of fucking there It's like fuck. I was used to me screaming cursing bro 50 sounds 300,000 shares You know, so After since that day Let me finish. Sorry. So every time that day the very next day say it all Night all these motherfuckers turned off their I'll go Did you know you would never see another hundred thousand bid on that shit ever again? Every everybody cheated they turned down their all go to show only 2005 in their shirt So that they only get wiped out How did you even like what did you how did you even like that like live the next day? How did you even like just go about your life after like that has to be the most emotional like Bro to be honest, I didn't know how much I was making so the way I trade is the same way I do now I don't look at the P&L until I'm done When I so I'm gonna tell you how Why I fucking sold Because I looked at the P&L like what's the fuck I'm up a quarter million at five dollars Oh And the same thing man, it's so what I so a lot of times like because this look at the time This thing was epic bro. It was one hour of phase From five dollars down to two thirty One continuous hour without an uptick. What you do during that time Free fingers on the mouse button I Could roll I didn't take a shit. I didn't take a shit I was I almost pissed in my fucking my pants my office my chair that fucking shit. I'm gonna buy a new fucking house I Know I'm ready like shit on the floor by new house I was like, this was all live. I saved the chat logs from this other chat room I was in. Yeah. Right. So it was all live, man. And I'm like shaking. I'm posting this. I'm always helping people call it a top the ball. So people think I don't pop stick bouncing. I was the king of top sticking bouncing. And so, so no one knew until it happened. I didn't know, right? And so it was like, holy shit, I was pretty much numb. I didn't know what to say what to do. It was just a surreal. It was basically a that was like, I'm done now. And so I'm going to tell you something, man, it went from the happiest day of my life to probably one of the saddest days of my life. That was the day that I was like, what now? What now? I'm not happy. I thought that by doing this, I would be the happiest motherfucker on earth. What happened was it changed the people around me? I was like, no longer the normal guy. I wasn't making money before, too. They just they just didn't know it. The moment they found out, like, okay, they thought I was making money, maybe $10,000, right? But when they saw millions in like four hours, I was never the same. My friends were were not never the same. I had to find new friends. And you know, like, they're like, well, I'll get for it. That could pay. Like, why the fuck is something like that? It's just they treat you very differently. Because like, dude, these, you know, if people are making 50 grand a year, and then you fucking say my conditions that day were their fucking salary, bro. Yeah, I paid like family didn't treat you different family to or just no one knew my family really didn't know. So what I did was like, my family took care of my family for this happened. So the way I am is I paid all my family's debts, my sister's debts, I bought my mom what she said about health or my about health, my sister, about my house with my mom, this is before this trade. I was already like doing well. And so my family didn't really think about it because they didn't know because I never lived a flashy lifestyle. So I was driving a used fucking BMW. Yeah. You know, wearing the black t shirt. Yeah, dude, you know that story about my Ferrari right? And the reason why this one became a Saturday because I did all these things, they shut down my account. And I bought the Ferrari is because, dude, they shut me down. And then no broker would open me up because not they're like, dude, I heard about you. There's no way that night would forbid so I was I couldn't even open a training town in some of these places. Yeah. And so that then then I had all this fucking money watered into my checking account. And I was like, fuck, so I went to the mall to buy 50% off slacks at the narrow public two story man. I'm not going to use the next week or so shit. I had all this fucking money million dollars in my account. They shut down my account of I went to the mall to and on the way to law, I saw a Ferrari dealership. I went in there and fuck, I walked out with a Ferrari. That's crazy. So so you have I mean, that is literally the highest high of training for like a retail trader. That's that's got to be it. That's that was basically the monetary it kind of made me sad because I'm like, what's next, bro? I thought that I thought that it would change my life in terms of making me happy, but it made me miserable, bro. They shut me down. Friends kind of like treat me differently. They thought I was an asshole. You kind of you know, so it was basically like, yeah, like, what the fuck, man, my relationships went down the hill, you know, shit like that. So and here I am. No one's the same. I'm the same motherfucker, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was the highest high in terms of monetary, but emotionally, you know, probably on that started me on a spiral suicide spiral down. I'm not joking. That was when I went offline for three to four years. He's going dark. No one knew what I was doing. I was sporadically trading once or twice a week. He and drunk the rest of the time. You know, because I didn't need to work anymore, right? So and then I met that was when I was training with Alex. Alex was basically because after this, I traded with this guy for maybe five years. And he that day I made one for four, he made one million. The only reason I didn't make three million because he stole all my friends, by the way, that that slippage, that slippage was him taking myself. We treated him same as that way. And I was very happy that he made a million. So after he made that million, he disappeared. He quit. He retired trading. Because he's like, what else is there? Right? And right after that, that the Wolf Street movie came, they shut down the they shut down OTC, FBI, SEC started being on my ass because of that movie shit like that. And so it was a very dark time in my life. And I was like, dude, I'm so I met Alex. And Alex, I'm like, dude, I felt great. Yeah, I felt like, like, like how I felt like I found a passion for trading. I was teaching Alex, you know, mentoring him. It was just fun to have someone to trade with. He's a fucking super bright kid, super humble, super smart. He taught me a lot of things too. It was just it was not a one way thing. He's gonna say it was a true friendship that was building. And so it kind of saved my life. Now I'm telling you, man, it's like, you know, because I found passion again, because I was like, fuck, man, I was drinking, I was heavily drinking every day to numb everything. Yeah, it's just you imagine when you have nothing to live for. And, you know, like, what the fuck man would come back and do what make $10,000? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, there's no motivation to keep going really after. Oh, yeah. And so the motivation was was helping a friend and having someone. I'm telling you, man, it's like, you have to have fun. After a while, if you're doing this shit by yourself, no fun. That's why I was not in really chat room anything. I was like, fuck this shit. So I'll train on myself. And so having having like, you know, this is why guys on Wall Street work together, man. That's why I keep them motivated. It's like friendly competition, lottery. Yeah, man. And you always have to have like, you know, something fun, like friendly competition to keep motivating you. The reason I made this much money. And the reason I took the size and I was like, what the fuck, motherfucker, I didn't know you were trained this much. You stole my friends. Fuck you. I'm gonna be better. And so it was me, my friend competing with one another pushing each other up. And so, you know, and so when he laughed and when he retired, I had nothing left to live for. Was that the guy who came to the MIC meetup? Yeah, David Coaster, the German guy that lives in the islands. Yeah. Yeah, I met him from scratch. And then then he left me. So then Alex came in. So how did you how did you like, come to even get to MIC? Like, were you at a point where like, you were gonna was trading even great? Like, were you even happy with that? Or is it just like, I need to start MIC without to like, find a purpose? I was basically like, I love trading, but there's just no passion for me. It's like the same old fucking shit. So it goes back to Harry's question, how do you transition, right? So I was like, you know, man, I'm gonna go cool, turkey and OTC. I can still trade it and make a shitload of money on it. But for me, it was never about the money anymore. So saying, what the fuck, it was me trying to like, trying to get rid of this image of being a penny stock scalper and getting fucking FBI calls and shit like that. And you know, I was like, okay, I'm gonna find a new challenge. And so I'm gonna fucking take what I know to do small caps. And to be honest, it was very rough in the beginning, because it's very different in the way things are filled. So in penny stocks, it was very difficult to get a fill. So a lot of times, the stock goes like, you couldn't fill. And so you just suffer what you've got stuck with NASDAQ, I could feel a limited amount of size within a second. And so so it got, you have to get used to the fact that, bro, you can you can fill the million dollar position in like five seconds, you know, say, yeah. So so that was getting something new and start and realizing the different type of manipulation that these long bills are doing, you know, and the gas things didn't really work when these things open pre-market at 4am. And you have huge wells in there that are doing what I used to do defending me. Yeah, exactly. And so you have to develop solid process. But what translated well with the process. So the secret, all these years, guys, people using moving averages, all this divinacci bullshit lines, lines motherfucking take a look at that chart that you see there. Those lines, they're pivot lines. Those 290 342. And look how awesome they love it matches. It's amazing. It's amazing. And you combine this with the normal support and resistance. So the same process that that teach MIT, how you start with the year remember I go to big charts and do the year. Yeah. So let me repeat that. I'm going to tell you how you do it. So this is why I taught everybody, the guy that made million bucks out to everybody. Okay, so you start with a year. Because what happens like, there's lines everywhere. There's lines everywhere. You have to know which lines are used. So I started with the, the, the widest which is a year. But if you can't find it, you go two years. So go expand it until you see a line, right? That's like a major, major line. Yeah. And then I'll tell you the secret of top ticket mom ticket. So you can't just stare at level two and tape it all day. What you do is when when these things start to turn ball like as many as five bucks, I knew it around there because then you pull up a historical chart, the historical chart has lines on it. And then when it comes to your S Y called the areas of interest, when it comes to the areas of interest, then you zoom in, you look. And so so I'm going to walk around, picking my ass until that's my areas of interest. And so that's how I knew what shit was bouncing. So they can look at the bottom man, the 250, 529 2080, you draw a line, it's like it kind of matches 424 in the beginning. Yeah. So so around 250, I knew it was close. So then I then I focus when it got around each major line that it broke. So every time it came to the areas of interest, I would focus. And then when it broke under it, I could just kind of chill. You know what I'm saying? And so these guys keep staring at it all day long, they're gonna they don't know what the fuck they're doing. But I'm focusing on the major line, which is the areas of interest and then I zoom in on level two, the tape and all that. Okay, so there's ample tape reading. But I hate to talk about deep reading. So the moment that you understand tape reading, you, you should know how to trade a raise and you develop your own. I don't need to teach a beginning how to misread tape, because you have to understand charting and all this shit beforehand. Exactly. 100% completely agree. That's the most asked question that we get in weekend mentoring, every single, you know, me and Tosher just like, they're like, Oh, you know, you can predict a squeeze, you can predict it, whatever you can predict that it's like, no, you know, like, everyone is just people people want, you know, a holy grail or a holy grail. And they're like, Oh, you know, if I just watch the tape, you know, all the time, that's how I'm gonna that's how it should line up with your plan. It should line up with your lines, you know, it's a confirmation of what you're seeing on the chart. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Right, man, because I what the fuck, you look at tape for five hours. Yeah, exactly. You should look to you just like watching someone fucking sign language and looking for one sign. You're reading Chinese. So that's what the process we talk about in MIC and I make so many of those training fish Academy videos on it, right? You start with the the line from the one year you zoom in the areas of interest and that that's exactly the same process. So I look at a chart. So so another skill we have and you can think of a chart and kind of sense the trend, right? You know when the stock is changing trends and things like that. So so those are the things I moved over to small caps very well. And people small caps are using such such advanced complicated bullshit. But not I mean, it worked for them. All this stupid shit, right? I mean, for me, I call it like, you know, man, unless you really know what the fuck you're doing, and you're using it correctly, you can misuse a fucking indicator and fucking blow up. So so when I moved over, I was like, fuck, man, it's the same fucking shit. It's a bunch of fucking lines. It's a bunch of resistance, support and pivot lines. And no one knew about the pivot line. I knew about the pivot line because my platform had it. I didn't even know what they were for all these years. I thought it's a magical line support but they turned out to be pivot lines. So that's why I taught you guys to put it into your things as it's, you know, it's an additional line that will work all the time. No, no lines work all the time. But if you take a look at $2 and 90 cent pivot line, take a look at 5.29, it's found right off of that fucking line. Yeah, exactly. I mean, more often than not, the lines match up and they work. I mean, it's more it's probability. But again, the probability says if you draw the correct line, you learn the correct line. Yeah, it's a lot of prophecy. If enough people trust the line, they'll be getting some self-affirming prophecy. Yeah, exactly. So I guess, I mean, I guess are kind of like our last question, right? Would be like, how did you guys even like, how did you and Alex even start MIC? Like you had this process. At this point, you like had this idea of lines and like pivot points. I'm gonna tell them that the reason the reason all these years were, I did not want to teach people is because I couldn't get the exact process and teach a beginner. The way I was trained before was so complex, it needed to have a systematic approach to day training. And so until I figure out the secret sauce, okay, so I'll tell you what the secret sauce was. So I did the low hanging fruit strategy for so long. That was my bread and butter. No one knew about that shit. I called the low hanging fruit because I named something so obscure that even if people heard about it and what the fuck it is, right? I've taught this to Alex, and then I met Tosh. I met Tosh three years ago on my birthday. Yeah, he came over and brought me about. Yeah. And so it's fucking awesome. So we spent all night drinking and getting fucking dunked up drinking and talking and that as I taught, I want to teach you something. I'm gonna teach you this fucking strategy. I've never taught anybody. Learn this shit, only trade this shit for a year. And then tell me how you do it changed your life. It probably became a consistent trader trader low hanging fruit strategy. That was when I knew it worked. That was when so he was kind of like a test case. Yeah, so and so a year later, I was like, so so before we launched, I needed to take the circle. I was like, how the fuck is I'm a short trader? How do you fucking complete the circle? That's when I discovered the zombie rule. During those years, I discovered the zombie rule me and Alex worked together and we noticed a pattern, the zombie rules and all that shit. So what was destroying the consistency from a small cap? Short perspective, short traders perspective is the fact that the algos are fucking using the zombie hour, which is basically what they run out of volume to manipulate the liquid. Yep. Yep. And and they're able to do that because of the float size. Yep. Then they run it up. Yep. So we correlate all this together because, you know, it doesn't you know, so we correlate the low, the low float or rotation, all that. And so that's why Alex has a rule and he just stops, bro. And it works. It fucking stops. So we you can make some money. The problem is that you make money some days. You can make money four days out of five trading, shorting during zombie hours. It's a problem. The one time you lose it, it teleports just like this today. Yeah, it's like a point two points. You're fucking dead. You basically turn a big green day into a big red day instantly. Yeah. Yeah. And so Alex has fucked this shit. I'm gonna make man, I make money every day before it's on pretty much like all the time. The problem is I stick around to help you guys. I lose my money back, but I'm just joking about you know what I'm saying? So if you if you if you want to be your assistant day trader, you can totally have a day job. And this is why we started MIC to help people to realize that hey, man, you'd be a fucking big swing dick motherfucker swinging hundreds of thousands of shares to make money all day long. You just need to work the fucking first hour nail and bail and get the fuck out. Yeah. So we started MIC for the little people because every time we're out there is always trying to brag about being the best trader, right? I'm the best trader. But I have no ego because I've been there. These guys can keep bragging about their $100,000 days. I don't give a fuck. That was like a like commission back then, right? So for me, it was I don't need a fucking show. So that's the thing, man, the people that brag about all the shit, you know, there has to sort of insecurity about some shit. Yeah, right. So, so I was like, fuck this shit. So I created a fucking environment to teach a normal fucking underprivileged people, bro. These are the guys that no one wants to teach. Everybody wants to teach a bunch of people with money that are big, big traders. It'll be cool. Who's gonna help a guy that has that that has no spirit? It's gonna ask you questions like what the fuck is the line? What's the chart? What is pair balls mean? What's SSR mean? You don't say those. And so it's very hard to find a group of people that that that share the same human, like, like fucking societal. I want to help people like you guys are good man. Harry, man, I love you, James, you got that's why like when I met Harry, he was fucking helping people for nothing. And then James, I basically made your mod James, I tell you right now, because I you gave away the fucking monitors, man. Remember that story? Oh, if you didn't know how to, you didn't know how to trade well back then it doesn't matter to me. I knew that you were humble, hardworking. Yeah, that's that's the main I'm telling everybody out there guys is not how smart, rich, good looking even though we are not like farmer junior in this life. I'm telling you, man, it's your passion is your yeah, your humility, your discipline, your lack of ego man hate the ego game. Because what happens if you have to go you'll never learn you're never going to think you're wrong. That's why my team works. That's why my team works. No one has ego like I did Alex is one of the most like, you'd think me the kid that's like 25 or 26, whatever he is now he's 24. He's my age. He's my I think he's 25. I don't even know how old I am. I think I'm 26. He's 25, bro. I think he's 25. Whatever. I just like to think that he's my age. I don't feel it. But it's I mean, you've never met someone so like, humble and like, and that's how MIC works. Because people won't teach someone else who like has no experience if you're making $100,000 a day, 10,000, 5,000, you don't want to teach someone that's making no money. But MIC does like my like, that's what we teach is the new guys who have no shot yet. Yeah, that's the whole thing, man. Because I told myself when I made a quote, I mean, I really don't think I made it. But you know what I'm saying? Like when when I get to a point where I can help someone, that's what I mean by make it. When you get to the point where you help someone help someone. That's why when I saw you James and Harry, I was like, fuck, I want to you guys be a part of this. Because I know you guys are the same spirit and there's a healthy people online. You know, I talk to Harry all the time. He broke down. He cried a lot. You know, that's sort of people like man, like I like people that I cried in front of people. I can't tell you guys. I'm not such a good guy. You know, you guys want me to cry right now? Like yeah, I can, I can look at the mirror naked. I'm gonna make a mirror naked. I cry every night, brother. That is the point of this, like this podcast was made because we're all human, like we all have like emotions like training is like, yes, it's robotic. There's numbers on a screen like you have green days, red days, whatever, but we are all human. We're all here and like, that's why MIC is so I think successful. Like what it does because we all just are actual people. It's not some some robotic pay me $500 a month. It's exactly. Yeah. And that's why we read out. That's why you notice, man, we read out a lot of the fucking guys that boast and brag and all that shit. And it's fucking awesome. You lead by example guys, you guys, Harry and James and all the moderates, you guys are the fucking next generation man. I'm fucking very proud to be your friend. I'm very proud to have a part in your your journey. I love this man. I love it. I'm gonna get a modern rock tattooed right here with a little heart. Okay, one last question though, for real. Okay, you mentioned this. You mentioned this. This is a little weird question, but it's something that you did mention today. Okay, so during the trade during the trading day, do you actually hide your P&L for the entire day? No, I know that's a dumb as shit. Yeah, okay, I was gonna say no. I was like, no, people hide it. You know, I'm just gonna say man, I just funny shit, because I see a famous chat room guru streamer bumper guy. And you know, I want to hide my P&L. But he won't happen. He closes the trade goes, I think I had 2000 shares. I made 10 cents. I think I made this much. It's like, shut the fuck up. I'm gonna look at your P&L. Exactly. I was like, there's no way. When people say happy. So this is a trick, though, I don't look at my P&L. Because I'm too focused on the charts and the print all that, right? When I'm finished, I look. Yeah, you know, that's it. And to be honest, like, if I'm down, bro, if I'm down, I feel down. I look too. Because I fuck. Because we have this Mac daily lost shit. And to be honest, in a theoretical universe, if you have all the fucking money in the world, you don't give a fuck. No luck. But you know what, man, I'm teaching guys are starting off. They don't have that much money. If you don't fucking look, and you turn around, you're having your cat. Exactly. We've had those moments of like, oh, you know, you know, what don't look means, I'm gonna take a shit and come back and you have an office. It happened, bro. That's why I will remember we will do that one day and create trading dice. Oh, my God. I have loved this. I think this was like the greatest. Yeah, it's definitely really good. We all need to do this more often. We all need to get together, even over zoom, FaceTime, whatever, and fuck it up. I'm more awesome stories, man. This is the beginning. Thank God for doing this. All right, I'm glad that we finally got