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He made it his own. Fair play. I mean, I would say that he took his opportunity, you know, and sometimes you have to do that. You get these opportunities that come around in life and you're not sure where the next one's going to come from and you have to seize it. And I think, I think he did. Fair play to him. Fair play to him. Very much the Michael Keane of the squad. Yes, he's waiting patiently. That's what Michael Keane's doing right now, waiting for his offer to you. That's it. He's Dan Jume. He doesn't really want to. He's not really interested. No. For the money, innit? No, no. I think he'd be unfair on Dan Jume. I think he's far more motivated than Ned. It's a... We didn't speak last week, but before we get on to how it's just great to support a team that actually wins football matches, a little bone, small bone to pick with you. Doing that small bone. Small bone, Willie small bone. Scottish footballer. Ped, so there you go. You were up in the pool of life and you fully shaved our studio and me and Ped, that's fine. But I must say it did cut a little bit. It did hurt a little bit the fact that we'd done a podcast that week and you didn't give us a heads up that you were going to be around our neck of the woods. Not that it would... Your schedule was tight, I get it. We understand it. You were with your work friends. You wouldn't want to embarrass yourself by talking with me and Ped. We get that. But it just felt a little bit... A little touch of a betrayal finding out the way we did. I'll be honest. Well, explain yourself. I thought this might be the case and I thought that it might result in some kind of Andrew Bush style kangaroo court. And I've been fully ready to be on the receiving end of this. So let's deal with this now. Truth be told, I completely forgot to let you know on the week that we were recording that we were in Liverpool that week. It was a busy week and I should have mentioned it and I didn't. And the reality was it was a flying visit. I arrived at tea time on the Thursday. We were straight out for drinks and dinner and then more drinks and then woke up the next morning had some breakfast and then got on the road and then I was away. And so that was it. And bar a little quick trip to Bramley Moor to take some photographs of the new stadium, which was very exciting. That was it. And I was away because I was on a working day on the Thursday and on a working day on the Friday. So apologies that I wasn't able to drop in. But as you say, schedule did not allow. OK. I've asked them if you're happy with your response there. That's fine. We're not in a position to judge. It's on you. But like I said, I wasn't angry. There was no anger. We were just a little bit disappointed and a little bit. Well, listen, listen, no one is more disappointed than me. So, you know, what did you do? What did you make of Bramley Moor seeing the progress like up close and personal? I genuinely was mentioned in this last week. I genuinely was really, really excited by it because I mean, listen, it helped. It was a beautiful day as well for taking pictures. But yeah, it's the first time, you know, I've obviously kept up to date with all of the stuff on YouTube and all of the pictures that people like yourselves and other fans and other sort of groups have put on there, but to actually see it in reality and actually see the enormity of it. And it is enormous. It looks great. Yeah, it was just really, really exciting. So I was saying to the lads last week, I wandered into an area which very clearly said that you weren't allowed to take photographs and no social media action. But seeing as how nobody stopped me, I decided to cross that threshold and take a couple of snaps anyway and take my chances and nobody took my phone off me or threw it in the river. So I merged with photographs to put on to said social media, even though it told me not to. It feels like the real portrayal Dave is from Baz, if I'm honest, because we did have this conversation last week and it feels like Baz just didn't listen. I wasn't gonna listen. So it feels like the real portrayal has come from Baz, I think. Not really, because once I was informed that Ned had said it was his own, then I didn't feel like it was my place to listen or critique. I don't actually remember him saying that, but you do have quite a lot. I got four different messages. Four different messages. There you go, from people who normally don't care. Four different people. So angry. So angry. Three of them, I'll be honest, were very disappointed that I wasn't on it. That's just the way it is, isn't it? If you fail a fitness test, you fail a fitness test, don't you? Get on with it. Get on with it. I'll be honest, it could have been either of those. It could have been either of those. Let's get on quickly. Dave, what? I mean, you recorded before the Newcastle game, so obviously very buoyant after Dwight McNeill's tremendous left foot arrow. A forest got us the three points, and since then we have beaten two of the richest clubs in Wales, football, five-nil on aggregate, at Gooderson Park, with two good performances, two slightly different performances, I must say, but the outcome the same. Three clean sheets in a week, nine points in eight days, and things are looking up for the blue boys. Nine wins in 12, explain. I mean, I would go one stage further than the word good performances because I think they're excellent performances. I mean, really, across the board to a man, I think there's been some real warriors out there and some great displays all across, you know, front to back. I mean, listen, Michel Enco, we all know has not been top of my favourites list for a while, and we've spoken about him a lot and how I was pissed off when we lost Luca Dean, but I tell you what, Michel Enco of late has been outstanding. Yeah, absolutely outstanding. But, you know, but there's been so many good performances in there. Branthway has been epic, and Tarkowski has been a warrior at the back, and I mean, honestly, so many good performances and to have got the results that they have done, I think they thoroughly deserve. Now, if you want to look at it, yes, Newcastle were far from the team that they have been of late. I'm not taking, you know, anything against or any sort of shine off our performance. I thought we're excellent. I thought they were poor. That obviously translated into the result as it was. And you never quite sure which Chelsea team is going to turn up. And unfortunately for us, it wasn't their best team. I thought we were superb and thoroughly deserve the win. And it would be very, very evident to go to Burnley on Saturday and lose 1-0, you know. I mean, that would be what the script would suggest. But listen, take nothing away from them. That's three wins on the bounce. Nine points of the 10 back already, you know, is some return. And when you think about it, you know, obviously, since the points got taken away, we obviously lost to Man United. It wasn't a 3-0 for me. And plus also, as we've discussed before, had it not been for that wonder goal so early on, it could have been a different thing. You know, and we actually, we created chances all the way through that game. I thought 3-0 was a bit harsh on us. But since then, to then got nine points out of the 10 back is superb. And I feel chuffed and proud and buoyant. And yeah, life is good. Pat, I mean, the biggest thing. As well, the biggest thing, but a big bonus of that is that just a few short weeks after getting the 10 points deduction, and don't forget, we were bottom of the league before we kicked off against Forrest to be back out the bottom three and have a four-point gap as well. It's massive, isn't it? Yeah, and it's just about keeping that up now, isn't it? It's about keeping out of that bottom three and making headway for the teams above us. And I think that's the most important thing now, is looking at Forrest, looking at Palace and saying, right, let's chase them down. Point behind Forrest. Let's get them into the mix. Let's drag them into it. And that's the way, certainly, I think fans, you want something to catch, don't you? You want to feel like if you win the next game, it can take you up a couple of places. I think that's the same for players, I'd imagine as well. Always something above you can grab onto. Start getting into that mix again. Forrest plays space on Friday night at the City Grand Tournament, just had a good win, so... Yeah, so you're looking at it like that and you're thinking, right, if you can catch them, that's another one you put behind you. And then everything then is... We've got the 10... Listen, we will always talk about the 10 points. How can you not talk about the 10 points? They've just, you know, some of Chelsea, they will... We were above Chelsea going into the game. And we should be four points... We had the 10 points in form, I mean. And we've won four more points than they have this season, even though the table doesn't reflect it at this moment. So, it's about just keeping those teams and trying to catch them and trying to get ahead of them. And I think, you know, if we can do that, then we won't be looking over our shoulder as much, and we will be looking forward as much as we can. Just create that space between us and those teams. And, you know, if we do get some points back, that'll be a bonus, that'll push us further up. But you can see everything's heading in the right direction. I think the most important thing at the moment is, is that we do look a decent team. We do look balanced. And again, something Dave said there about Newcastle, about, you know, well, and everyone said it, well, the arts are tired and the arts have got injuries. But surely that's down to, again, things like our manager just doing things in the right way and playing, you know, playing players in the right way so that we're not... Newcastle seem to have thrown everything at once into everything. So like the Newcastle game, sorry, the Man United game, all their best plays were playing in that game. Well, then you come into the next game, if you're tired, well, that's your fault for putting everything into one game. Whereas arts feel like a little bit more balanced, you know, and it's actually something, I think we've all sort of criticised the manager for. It's like the lack of subs. I actually think you can see the fitness in the players now, probably because of those lack of subs. They look like they can all play well into the over 90th minute because they have done... A lot of them, the core group of them, look can do look like they can play in 95 minutes because they've had to because they've been used to it and maybe that's kept the injuries away. We've got a manager who understands, I think, working with a small squad of barely, what it takes to harness the most out of everyone and how far you can push a plate or maybe you've got to pull back on them a little bit. So it's been a great week. It's been a great week. Dave, I mean, you've got to go up to West Ham, they were in ninth to find a team that has won seven Premier League games, like Everton have done so. Like Pets, you said, in normal circumstances, we'd be two points off a European spot at the moment and that would be the area we'd be challenging, I think, for this season. Certainly, that's how it looks right now. And the players have just got to, and I'm sure they will, just got to continue what they're doing. Forget about the lead table, haven't they? We've got a game against Burnley at the weekend. It's a tough game, like you've said, but it's a winnable game. And Everton, you've Everton way to win that and Forrest failed to beat Spades on Friday night, even a draw. Everton go above Forrest with a victory on Saturday night and Forrest would be below us then and we would have clawed those points back on them, despite having ten points taken off us. So that's kind of the target Everton have got to go after, isn't it, certainly in the short term anyway, just those teams around us. I think so. And going back to the point of, you know, Saturday being a winnable game, I think, obviously the last three results, but the last two in particular, given that they're all winnable games, you know, because at what point do you say that they're not winnable? I mean, I've been slightly, you know, picky in terms of, you know, I know what you mean, but they've displayed against Newcastle and against Chelsea, the fact that they're a match for anybody on their day. And that's the thing that's really encouraging and that's why we shouldn't fear anybody at the moment, you know. And actually, you know, when we went through the coming fixtures between now and Christmas, and we did that a couple of weeks ago. And I said that, you know, I hope there was points in there and I'd look to the likes of the Newcastle. I'm not being all kind of, you know, predicted this at all, because I certainly didn't predict six points from those two games, but I thought that there were potentially points in there because we do tend to play better against the better sides, you know, which is why, ironically, you know, I'm sort of slightly concerned about Saturday, but you know, that's by the by. And they've proven that, you know, and they have everyone uses a word galvanized and all this kind of stuff with what's happened to us. But, you know, it does seem to have pulled people together and it seems to have actually got some really, really good performances out of individuals, you know, and as a team. And, you know, to your point about the fact that all of those sides above or in sort of close proximity, the idea is, as you say, just to get past some more, you know, and put them behind us. Just from the point of view, I mean, listen, we, on the basis that the points aren't coming back and that is my belief. Yeah, that's a good way to think about it. Right. And they might do and happy days, but my belief is that they won't, is that avoiding, you know, avoiding relegation is still the target. It's not get too carried away about things. It's still the target. But the higher up that table that we can finish every single point, every place on that table is going to be a bonus. And if we can put another three or four sides between us and the, in the relegation zone, that will be a remarkable achievement and a remarkable season, given what we're up against. I mean, Pad, we will be tested at the weekend. We've got obviously been away now. The more than beatable, they've lost 12 of the 16 games this season. So, you know, a lot of teams have gone and beat them comfortably. But Everton will have looks like they're going to have four players missing at the weekend. Obviously, no address again, no jar of brand to waste. Doesn't look like Ashley Young is going to be fifth for the squad either. And Michael Keane looks like he's going to miss out as well. So, OK, we can quantify all. And James Coleman, we don't know. So it could actually have five players who've been in the squad recently all out. We do have, I'm going to do one on a fifth again. James Garnham, which is big. And also, we've got Ben Goffrey waiting whether people can make whatever the season they want on Ben Goffrey, but he has had, must be noted, he has had some good games for Everton as well. He's awful. So, we will be tested, won't we, because the squad is being stretched, especially with the two suspensions. Cancel that goalkeeper's Christmas party, I'd say. You're all going on the bench by the time. Now we will do, and this is always going to happen, wasn't it, but suspensions and with injuries, they're always going to catch up, especially when you have two games in the space of three days. That's always going to... I mean, that was one of the major reliefs, you know. I know this will sound a bit stupid, but that's one of the major reliefs of winning on Sunday. Because sometimes you lose games where you also lose players in those games as well. We've had that way. We've played games. It's like someone will get sent off, or someone will get suspended for the next game. And you've lost the game, and it feels like it hits the next few games as well. But at least we got the points on Sunday. And with the suspensions, obviously, you'll take that, because you knew they were coming anyway. So for me, yeah, O'Nan has gone in there in any way, so Garnagay will be less, will just be one game, and it'll be a good chance for him to take... I mean, even though he's got the African Nations, it'll be a good chance for him to just take a break for one game. But Antway's obviously slightly different, because that partnership is so important. And he's good on the ball, and he's very calm, so he plays the ball out from the back, and that can allow us to get going. This is where it's going to be slightly different. It's going to be a big test for Ben Govry, but the manager will give him all the tools this week, if it is him. And we know that all week. Then he can train all week, won't he? And the single of focus is on Benly, and having a good game, and doing your job as a professional footballer. Everything else will take care of itself. If Seamus is fit, who do you think he'll go with that right back? Seamus. Do you? I think so, yeah. Just because... And because God flees out. Sorry, because God flees coming in as well. I think he likes the experience, and I think... You know, they've got a little... they've got a little bit of pace on the wings, and I think he'd probably rather have Seamus in there with that little bit of experience in and away game. Not that Patterson's done anything wrong of late. I mean, it was obviously part of the team that beat West Ham away, so... No, but I do think he'd go with Seamus if he's available for this game. Yeah. And Dave, is it... as much as we want to win, and listen, I think we've said, coming into the forest game, if we could suck seven out of nine points, that would be a tremendous return, but we've got nine out of the three fixtures. Is Saturday, even though we should absolutely be going to win the game, because it would... it'd be a... not only would it be like a big message to everyone around us that, you know, four wins on the run after that point, the Ducons are a huge, huge message to everybody. Obviously, we're what? We're five ahead of Burnley. If we could beat them, it'd be eight, and that's a hell of a lot of points for a team near the bottom to try and get back on. Is it a case of, if you can't win, don't lose for this one? Yeah, I think so. I mean, I was just thinking before when you were saying that, you know, in terms of... I was wondering, you know, what was the question, is this as important now, given the last three results? I mean, my answer would be that it's got to be as important as if we'd lost the last three. Definitely. There can be no complacency at this moment. You know, the job is far from done. You know, there's a long, hard winter to come, and to throw out other stereotypes, but there really is, you know, and it's about where we are come the end of the season, so every single one of these points is crucial. Let me reframe it, then. We've got spares away in Manchester City at home, the next two Premier League games after this one. So is this a must-win, then? Because we may not get points out of the two after that. I don't think we do get any points out of the two. So with that in mind, I genuinely adult, you know, and we, you know, we said this before about, you know, where the possible points are coming from, and yes, I know that they're all winnable games, but I don't see us getting anything at spares. I don't think we get anything against Man City. You know, I know they've had a bit of a wobble, but they're still superb. So I think after Burnley, Wolves are our next realistic points. So with that in mind, then, yeah, it is a game that they have to try and win. You know, they shouldn't be going there and playing for a draw for me. Yeah. And because it's away, and we are very good, I mean, I still think we've got, I think we've got a capable of getting something at spares as well, because I know they had a great win at the weekend, but I think Newcastle are a little bit more open than we are, and I think we can board them a little bit. But this in mind, if we were to win at the weekend, that would take a lot of pressure off those next two games as well, to have a retain of 12 out of 12 points since that United game. I know this, we're never going to sit here and give up points, but like Dave said, spares are waiting to sit here at home to very difficult games, aren't they? No, it would be huge, wouldn't it? You know, me and Dave were somewhere at last week, and I was sort of saying we could take, I think I said eight points. You said seven, I think I said eight or something like that. Seven or eight, and we were looking at it, like that was obviously before the two games, so we got six already. We'd get to seven or eight, that would give us 24 points, that we've actually won. And you think, well, you do that again in the second half of the season, and we should be alright. So, to only be a point behind that, or a couple of points behind that, one win in effect to go above that. If we could get that one win, then that does take the pressure off. It takes the pressure off what you see, the league table, it takes the pressure off. The players going into that spares game. Everyone can feel it. They can go and dig in, then can't they? And everyone will start feeling a bit more relaxed, can't they? Knowing that you've got those wins, and then spares, you've got to go into a certain way game. Dave's still got players coming back from injury. We'd be going in, obviously we've got the full-on game before that next week as well, which is massively important, but it isn't a league game. The pressure's off for that because it's the cup game. It is about just keeping ticking them off and getting results in them. And, as you said, it'll be difficult because of all the stuff that's on our hands here, and because it'll be built up as a 6-pointer. All these things, you know, barely must win and go nothing against Dice, but we just play our game. Like we do every time we play these away games. You can imagine there'll be a certain level of performance, which we've seen anyway. It'll be huge. But we're a better team, but that doesn't always matter. I think the other thing as well that we need to think about here is about getting points when we are the side that we are and we're in the form that we are, because unless we forget, we haven't got the biggest squad in the world by any stretch. We start having some injuries coming to play, and it's a whole different scenario. And, you know, a runner-games at the end of Jan or in February or March or something like that, where actually you think, do you know what, it's very difficult to see this as a winnable game, because we don't have, for example, Dominic, we don't have Dekore, we don't have Maneel. You know, you look at where the goals are going to come from or not come from, and we could be relying upon Dan Jume or something like that, and who knows what that's going to bring, right? So therefore, you know, I don't want to be in a situation that we've been in before where we look back and kind of go, do you know what, we should have got those three points. We should have got a point there, and we'd be four better and we've been in a different scenario. We've got to go... We've already done that this season, haven't we? Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Fundamentally, we need to be beating the teams that are around us. That's the fundamentals of it, isn't it? They're the teams that are around us, they're the teams that we should be beating. We shouldn't be allowing them to catch us, you know? Spares and Man City, they take care of themselves. It's a different thing, but we should be beating the teams that are around us. We should be putting that marker down that we are the better side. You know, we might be four from bottom, but actually in reality, we're a top half table with the points we've won. In points, yeah, yeah. And we need to go into that games with that, and it's a difficult thing, isn't it? Because you're looking at it as a fan. Hopefully, the manager, and I think he will do, is looking at it from... This is the games you've won. Just go and give me that performance again. Yeah, and if we can beat them, then it's the things of them, as they start looking and thinking, yeah, they're much better than we are. They're not going to be in trouble, so they start trying to get in other clubs, you know, what are they like? So it's an opportunity, I think, at the weekend for everything to go and flex the muscles a little bit and go, yeah, we've just beaten two teams that people were saying we'd struggle against. Now we're coming and beating a team that we feel we should be beating, and it is being capable of doing that, so hopefully we can. They just very briefly, because we mightn't record again before the game, the Fulham game might be after it, but Fulham are home, they're flying at the moment, I think they just scored 13 goals, but they go to Newcastle on Saturday, and I think Newcastle beat them, to be honest. And then they come to Godduson, obviously, in the Carabao Cup, but a great opportunity for Everton to, excuse me, keep the feel, go back to going and get a place in the Carabao Cup semi-finals. Yeah, absolutely. And I hope they do, and obviously the priority has always got to be on the league position, but a good run in the Cup would be great. And yeah, I mean, nothing to fear. I know that they've been in good form. We've also been in good form. They'll be saying the same sort of things about us. No doubt. So yeah, it looks tasty on paper, but yeah, no fear from my point of view at all. Pet sign, home game, great opportunity. No, it's going to be a tough game. It's going to be a very tough game. They're going to be very, very confident as well, full and coming into that game with the scoring goals. Everything seems to have clicked into place, but it's a Cup game quarter-final home, you know, an opportunity to get into the semis, and it has to be settled on the night, so we've just got to throw everything at it that we can, I suppose, with the players that we've got available through us. But it does, obviously not factor in this weekend's games, it does create a really interesting scenario. Obviously we've got great defensive record, they've got really good attacking record, so it makes for a very interesting game. How much, you know, when people say, oh, a cup run helps the team, and it helps to feel good factor and all that. Do you believe in that or...? Because you do see teams who struggle in the league, but they do all right in the cup. I think timings, everything, isn't it? I think we'd rather not have a game next Wednesday with all the games that are going on, but then at the flip side, you always think, well, if everything can get a good result at the weekend, and then, God, you'd be flying into that full-on game, and then if you'd be full-on, you're flying into the space game, and you're just ticking them off, aren't you? Win, win, win, win, you know, or whatever it is, but on the other side of that is, players, it will be another game. The manager would love to have a week off, almost like he has this week, where you're just training and concentrating on getting better, especially after you've had two games in three days, and you know you're going to get that again over Christmas, three games in just over a week, so it is hard, it is hard for them, but this is the, you know, you look at like the bigger sides, you know, the sides are in Europe and whatever, they've been facing that all season, that's the difference, isn't it? If you want to be successful, you have to play lots of games, you have to have a squad that obviously shows that as well, but we don't, and we just have to take it down, we just have to take it as it goes. Not the worst thing in the world, it's not the worst problem. No, with our financial things at the moment, it's good that we've got another home tie, you know, a chance for Godson to be quite full, and I'm sure it will be, and another payday for us, because that is the way we've got to look at things right now, isn't it? And that's where we are, isn't it? That's where we're up to. So it should be very interesting, like we say, but Everton in action apparently on Saturday 5, 30 kickoff, just go and win Everton, because it's really good. This thing of winning games, I'm enjoying it, I'm enjoying it. I think it's everything better, isn't it? But somewhat making things better. Dave just generally makes people's lives better. Yeah. And one of those ways was obviously switching the lights on. Switching the lights on. That was an incredible gear change, Perd. Mate, I lay in from the back. He was a sassy driver, he knows all about gear changes. I lay in from the back. I listened to you. You're not indicating that. I always indicate that I wasn't one of them bastards. I don't mean to date a prick. I lay in from the likes of Dave, you know, just listening. Just listening. Just those moments, segue from, you know, turning in a U-ting on a cul-de-sac and bringing it right round. Yeah. You know. So Dave did switch on the lights at Born End, which sounds like a place from Harry Potter. It does. It does. What was it like seeing the joy in all the faces? Yeah, when you were the celebrity. When you pressed that button, Dave? Well, I mean, I wasn't, I was, I was comparing the stage. What they do every year, they have one of the local kids designs a Christmas light, which then goes on to the parade on the high street with the name and with the year on there. Right? So my niece was the winner in 2019. Well, that sounds a little... Now, now, now, now, now. I, I, I listen, I know, I know what you're thinking. Don't you ever put the Paul Hart castle in? No, no, no, no, 19. What happened there? Yeah. To be fair, I wasn't involved in 2018. So it's nothing to do with me. I mean, questions could be asked about the fact that one of the councillor's daughters won it last year, but anyway, let's not go down that route. But independent commission, you say? Independent commission, you say? Anyway, so the local child wins the chance of designing the sign. And then, so I just have to facilitate that with a, with a plunger and then goes and chooses the biggest goose in the shop window. Yeah. Yeah, all of that. So, um, no, I was just, just doing the stage all night and they just had different, you know, church choirs and local dance groups from the schools and all that kind of stuff for a couple of hours. And it was all very nice and brilliant. That was me. Yeah. And that they're born and that was it. So that's my little, it seems to be like an act. Well, I think it's the third year I've done it now on the bounce. So. That's it. The celebrity. Yeah. Obviously clearly the council are making full use of the 3D printer. They bought a few years back to make, to make the lights for the young child. And that's fair play. Why not? Why not? You've got to use this, these things. This is it. How many bulbs are there Dave? I'm sure you must know this. How many bulbs are there? How many bulbs? Yeah. That gets switched on. Is it just one tree? Is it one tree? Is it one tree? Is it a street? Is it one? Is it? Give us paint the picture. Okay. Well, so there's, there are lights hanging across the high street, you know? Okay. Yeah. Between shops and whatnot. And there's lights in the tree. Jillian shop. There's Jillian shop. One of them. Jillian shop is there. She's up on the left hand side. She's opposite the petrol station. Okay. See for those that know. Yeah. And, and yeah. So, so there's lights in the trees. There's lights hanging across. And then obviously then there's a special kids light, which is, is unique every year. And normally involves a Christmas tree, or a reindeer, or a snowflake, or something else of a festive nature. Of course. Of course. Sounds excellent. Ned's sign again. And, you know, missed the retention so you can have switched the lights on as well. I mean, he hasn't. He's playing ceremony. But, you know, well, I mean, I think we, I think we should find, where is Ned with his Christmas story? Have you got a crisp one, Ned? We'll bring it in for a random section. Go on. Give us your story. I was just singing on a light, at the light switch. And that was my, the biggest show I've ever. Where was this? 8,000 St. Tellings. Did you count? Wow. 8,000 people or 8,000 lights? Isn't in the newspaper, 8,000 fans came out. I reckon. 8,000 fans came out. The fans coming out to see who turned the lights on. Who turned the lights on? Saints players, I think. But I, I played and I was the one, the act before five. It was the headline. Five. So they were there to see five? Maybe. Yeah. Fair play. But that's fair. You know. Interestingly, five, there's now three of them. Three of them. Yeah. I remember when they said, I said, who's this? Just talk over Dave. And they said, they said it's five. And I went, it was three of them. Well, they were on, they don't bongoes bingo. Last Christmas, five or three of them. You had a living, haven't you? So fair play. You do what you do, don't you? Yeah. I wanted to, again, I'm going to change gears. Do we? Because this question came up the other day, right? So we were watching, we were watching an audience with Kylie. Okay. Which my Mrs. Was it good? It was, it was alright. Yeah. But my Mrs. She tried to get tickets for this. Yeah. I was like, you've got no chance. She went mad because Jamie Carragher was there. She was like, why is he there? Probably doesn't even like Kylie. Surely does. So the first question I wanted to ask you, she asked me this question. Has Dave ever met Kylie? Yes. Is the answer. I said, I said that. Go on. Give us the story. Did she have a gold shorts on before we start? Didn't have a gold shorts on. I've met her a few times actually without sounding, you know, clang, like a massive clang, clang, clang. Yeah. But yeah, probably, I don't know, three or four times, I think. One of which we, we went backstage to, she was doing a concert somewhere in London. And I can't remember where it was, but we went there in the afternoon and we sort of saw the backstage stuff and all the outfits hanging up on the rail behind. And she gave us a little tour round, but she's very, very small. She's sort of pocket sized. But she, you know, in my experience, and you can only ever speak as you find, as I always say, but she was lovely. She was always very, very nice and very polite and very, yeah, nothing, but good things to say about Kylie Minogue. That's all I wanted to know. That's all I wanted to know. And the other thing I wanted to ask you was, because it was one of these audience, I mean, we grew up with these audiences with, didn't we? We used to have a lot of them, didn't we, in the 80s and 90s? Yeah. So we like, anyone doesn't know. And they take the question. It'd be like a small, like a normal ITV size studio. But the audience would all be celebrities from different ranges. And it was like this as well, say in Albert Hall. It was like the Royal Albert Hall, it was like the first like four rows on, each side to the, three sides of the stage were all like celebrities or rents of celebrities. So Dave, have you ever been in the audience for an audience with anybody? I haven't unfortunately. And I wish I did because it would have actually continued this story in a far better way. But I've never, ever, but I know, I know, I know very much the things that you're talking about. And we've all seen them and people like Victoria Wood and I think Billy Connelly has done them and, you know, and he's there in the audience and the next questions from Sunita or Vicky Michelle from a low, low or someone like that, you know, we've all seen them before, but they've become something of an institution, but they've not happened for a while. No, they've tried. They were very much in 90s, like 80s, 90s, where you get like, you know, like you say, near the big someone who's got, who's, you know, doing a bit of promo, we've got a lot of people in, you know, you know, Jimmy Tarbuck with that, be asking a dead funny question or whatever. Timmy Mallet would be there. Yeah. Rod Hull and Emu. Yeah. Absolutely. You know, that kind of thing, because actually someone, I've actually seen someone, imagine if Kylie, Rod Hull had been there with Emu. That would have been amazing, wouldn't it? Well, I mean, I think it also may have potentially been, you know, an HR issue. Yeah. But yeah, these days, yeah, these days very much. So you couldn't, it couldn't have been a clairvoyant, neither does well, isn't it? Well, I'm just saying, you know, the perfect one. Oh, of course, right? The perfect Wales, that would have been like, the grief of the afterlife. I mean, you know, it's not the right thing to do. No. I mean, hypothetically, I meant by that. Yeah. I think a lot of people want to stick the beak into Kylie. I'll be honest, but there you go. There you go. So yeah, it was good. It looked good. I mean, I haven't watched it. It's ready to record today. It's ready to watch. I do like Kylie. I do like Kylie. No, my missus, she loves, she absolutely loves him. It's, it's loves it to the point where she was, I think, sneakily wanted to go to Vegas to see, because she's doing a residency in Vegas. And it's, the prices are ridiculous. And it's only like an hour. And they won't even let you, like stand up or anything or even dance. There's all kinds of nonsense. I said, she'll be like, you know, whatever. But, but she did say to me, she says, Dave, Dave, have you ever met Kylie? I was like, I bet he has. You can, you can tell Sam that I have. You just miss the showbiz back in the day. You know what I mean? Till he decided he wanted a quiet life. That was it. He decided. Now he's switching lights on again. He's deaf over there. He's deaf over there. He was last week as well. Mark Rowan. Mark Rowan. That's who he was on. Yeah, okay. I'm just saying. Okay. So Mark Rowan got a visit and we did Mark Rowan. Hang on, hang on. Say the name to yourself. Mark Rowan. Listen, listen, listen, listen. Mark Sam. Mark Jordan, by the way. I know he is, and I know you're taking the mic. But anyway, the reason we were up there on an official EFL business. Oh, of course. Yeah. Easy fucking life. Yeah, EFL. Yeah, there you go. Absolutely. My friends. No. No. Yeah, it's always said. Yeah, they were, they were the thing. We just bring them back memories there of them like, they are all playing or on the piano. But take a question from you. Who was on the piano? And who was on the guitar? Sorry. Remember Victor, you were distinctly being on the all. Because another reason. She is who I think of with those things. Yeah, we can't be in... Billy Connolly, yeah. Because this being... They do have some... because I thought I can't think of something. I can't think of something but yeah. I've noticed this week there's another reason. I've used to notice emergence of these Silla Black videos on Twitter. Dave, have you seen this? No. Oh, you want so on on Twitter now known as X. I think it's more of a TikTok thing, but people have gone back and found these clips of Silla when she used to whatever she used to do, whether it was a it wasn't him. Blind date blind date was the other one she did. Surprise. Surprise. She used to do these like segments where she'd have like a music video. She'd obviously do a copy of another song and then come up with some clever music video. They're all absolutely horrendous. Like there's one where she's playing football and there's two teams. And she's not wearing the kit of either. But for some reason is wearing a Liverpool kit with a Liverpool trackie top on that I know people in this building would kill for now if they could get their hands on the trackie top. And they're just so weird. And people have just started regaining them. But again, it just shows you that's a period in time. They're just she was like the biggest thing on TV and they are so bad. She was fighting in a ring with a kid. She was boxing a fight in a ring punching a kid. Do you not think that this is potentially the territory that if anybody was to bring it back and make it more 2023 or indeed 2024? It'll be somebody like Jane McDonald. Do you not think that she could take over the clouds? I mean, she would suggest yes. I've just watched Jane McDonald recently in Japan. It was excellent. It was really good. And she comes across as a lovely person. She can sing. Maybe Silla was ahead of the curve with the fighting. Maybe she was like she could see the YouTubers coming down the lane. She was still alive. It'd be like Silla versus KSI. Silla killer. Silla killer. Tommy Fiori versus Silla. Possibly. Possibly. Surprise, surprise. She knocked her mouth. Take that. Silla versus Emu. Silla. Silla. Silla. This is a good idea. She'll put this shirt on and box this kid in a ring and everyone's like, yeah, that looks alright. She was killing it wasn't she? She had obviously blinded it. That's what you say that. Blinded it. You never needed two days. You didn't need to go double D. It's like grand, you know, it's not granddad. Yeah, that was it. Maybe just double D. You are a bit set after all. Let's get on to some of the random questions. Sorry. That was a serious scripted set. Sorry. Got a teleprompter. That's Dave, random questions. Dave, you're laughing. We did buy a teleprompter this week. We just had one. It came from LA. I'm so excited to look up. I think bleeding Silla Black's ghost brother. He's been taking tough weeks to get here. You might have had some of these last week. Don't use the top five. Just go up from on that. We were short and meticulous. Did you do that? Are you feeling ho ho ho? No, no, no. Don't use that because it's rubbish. That's harsh. Who would you rather face in a charity boxer match from Glenda? Did you do that one? A. Santa. B. The Easter Bunny. C. The Truth Fairy. D. Putzy Bear. We didn't do this. I like how Dave did that one. Who would you rather face in that scenario when you can't put E. Silla? It was Putzy Bear as the Easter Bunny. It was Santa Claus. The Truth Fairy. Feels like he's gone very much like Santa Claus. The Santa Claus movie, Glenn. Parthen he's had the children in need, Putzy Bear in there. Who would you fancy? I'm going to say the Easter Bunny, I think. I just find the Easter Bunny pointless. I don't really understand the point of it. So I'm going to say the Easter Bunny and my walk on music would obviously be the same as I walked down the aisle to my wedding first time around, which was Zechars. Zechars. I'm going to go for Putzy because you only got one eye. That is a shout. He's had a bit of fantasy. Work on the other eye. Once that's closed over, you'll need a bleed bandana on both of them, won't you? I mean, you've gone there. No, you know what I mean? I'd go straight for it. And also, you're only seeing once a year. So obviously, he's not going to be keeping himself into shit. You want to fight for my time, March, where he's got his feet. I'll be honest, you're only seeing all of them once a year. That's the same for him, in particular. You know what I mean? Like Father Christmas, there's a big month period. Mind you, the Truth Fairy, if you eat a lot of sweets, then they cup you cupies. I wouldn't want to be fighting anyone called the Truth Fairy. He could be like Glenn the Truth Fairy, bastard or something. You know what I mean? So I'm going for putty. He looks putty to be fair to him. He looks a big shit house, doesn't he? He looks a big cowardly shit house with a bandana on his eye. I'm going for the other one, and I'm walking out to... Let me think what I'm walking out to. Something, I don't know. Kylie Minogue, I'm spinning around. You're spinning his head around. I'm spinning his head around a little bit. Cup you here. Is there a female putty? Pizziered. I'm going with Santa. As much as I like Santa, there's the redness of the suit, obviously, which can get you fired up, especially if it's still a black mean model in it. And also, he's not in the best shape. You know, you've got to take that into account. He's got like Ned's physique, hasn't he? There's moobs going on and everything. So, I think I'd have to take Santa on. Walk out music. Add confusion by having Jakey's Merry Christmas, everyone. For no reason other than I just couldn't think of a song to have gone with that. So, there you go. Can I make a suggestion? Absolutely. It's too late for this year, sadly, but I'm just thinking in terms of toffee, TV, merch, and maybe something for next year. The thing is we've somewhat missed the boat by 12 days this year. Yeah. Could you bring out a Nedvent calendar? You know, which would be all like, it would be Ned dressed up in a festive suit and obviously, all the way through the Nedvent calendar, then there would be maybe chocolates or something like that. Absolutely. That's just an idea. Two things, I mean. Open it and there's got to be like, we had every door. We actually told Ned the other day, well, I said to him, I think he'd actually found the Santa Claus because just the way he was looking on that particular day, and then he walked in a couple of days ago and announced to everyone that he'd put on a stone, which was concerning to me that he has got the Santa Claus. Someone has fallen off his roof and he's going to have to take over, but I actually think next year it's a good day and again, feel free to jump in on this. I think Ned should be in the jungle. The jungle's obviously just finished. I didn't watch a minute of it. I think Dave needs to be in it. Dave, but I just think Ned would be, he would be an X factor in there. Be a shopping factor. Do you know? I would like to see him in there. I'm a little bit disappointed that you didn't see any of the jungle this year on the basis that you were superb. It was great to have him in there jumping up and down. I've never had evidence so many times. I've seen those clips. When is Mrs Rennie Micellerius? I've never been Newcastle 3. Oh, one more thing. Where's the plug for the Lechie toothbrush? I mean, you're just not getting that normally, are you? Marvin had his Mrs sat on his knee and said to be fair, he didn't want to let her go fair play. Fair play, but you know, Tony was fully evident up, so fair play. It'd be interesting seeing Ned in that environment. Well, I like about it. Remember when Big Brother done, and I think she ended up winner, didn't she? What was her name? Where'd he put the girl in? Oh, Chantel. She was the one that went out with the ordinary boys, didn't she? Who got Mara Stonzer in? Never mind. But she went in, didn't she? And it was the pretend that she was famous. She was famous. I think they should do that to me. I think they should do to me. Pretend I'm famous. I don't think you'd last five minutes in the jungle. No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't last until I got sent to do a trial. Then I'd be fucked, I'll be honest. The only trial I could have done, and Tony Bell, you did make me laugh with this one was when he was saying he knew Sam had won. When the public gave Sam someone else had snakes and everything. Sam got frog. Those kind of like trials. I'm all right. But the one when Marvin and I had to sit there with the Christmas food falling on them. Them things that don't involve creatures, I'd be all day with. We've already announced that now. I love creatures. Put me in the spot. There's a snake. Well, it's Ned. Ned wouldn't be scared. The thing is though, he wouldn't be scared of that stuff. So, I honestly believe Ned winning the jungle, he would become an overnight sensation in this game. I genuinely believe that and I'm not even messing when I say that. There are people who just go on TV and suddenly just go bang. And we've had it with like, you know, Alison Hammond and Ryland and people like that. Ned's next. Ned's next. Neither of them being the jungle boy. Nobody being on TV shows. I think you're right though. I think genuinely that Ned does have all the component parts to make him a national treasure overnight. Honestly, there are people out there. I agree. These shows do open the door to real people to become real stars. Ned's next. He just needs the thing. I know he does like expose himself. He does, he does. Ned wouldn't have been out of place doing the Cyclone the other night, Dave. Because he does come in sometimes with trackies that basically are like the gold shorts that Farage had on. Where you can see. He had green shorts on, didn't he, Farage? Green and colour blind. He had some kind of shorts on. He had green shorts on because Tony had red ones. Tony had red ones. The lad did him, obviously, with the Newcastle result. So Ned does try to think he's got gold like or green like the shorts and no bills on. That is what he likes. Interestingly, on that front then and only because it's right in front of my eye line now is that when I look at Ned's picture, there is what looks like like a coffee mug, is it? You know, like a thermosy thing. There you go, yeah. Now, that's made up of two colours. One being gold and one being green. Now, can you not see the difference between them? Yeah, I can, I can. I can see the shades and the note at the top. It's gold. If it was all one colour, I'll be honest, I would struggle to tell you what the bottom colour is if that was all one colour. Not that I can't see it. But if it was all one colour, it would be one colour, there wouldn't be a bottom colour? Yeah, I meant if the bottom colour was the whole thing. If you went what colour is that? I might guess it's green but I couldn't 100% tell you that that's green. It's not green. Why? Why? Why are you laughing at it? It's a disability. Why are you laughing at a disability? It's not green though. Wasn't there a golden blue scenario with a dress a few years ago? Yeah, there was, yeah. Certain people saw it as gold and certain people saw it as like a dark blue. Maybe it was blue, but I thought it was a coat. I thought it was white. Yeah, now there is, there is things. It's like the certain colours. Yeah. You know, I can't say I understand what colours are and know what colours are but some, some of them, some of them I can't differentiate because I couldn't tell you what the colour is. Yeah, yeah. Zachy should get very, very upset. I like to say colour, man. Nah, I'm alright with snooker. All the brown and the red at the far end sometimes is a bit of a tough one. Green and brown, no issue. Any more questions? Yeah. Have you ever, ever received an Auckland Christmas receiving a giving experience when you actually know the shape of it? We had this one last week. And he had 57 seconds. Continuous week. We'd done that the week before. 57? That's a good margin in the morning. It could be that margin. You wouldn't have been up six times in the night. Sit down, wait. I've stopped going in the night now. Good. Have you witted it back? No, because I've started thinking I've started thinking I've started thinking I've started thinking I've started thinking I've never had, you know, I mean, I've never had a cup of coffee that I was drinking in pain all night. So the caffeine makes you pee. Yeah, yeah. So I was getting, I was getting really bad pains. Obviously needing to go to the toilet. But was I bugger getting out a bit? Especially these months. And yeah, all it is is if you get back on your, if you get rid of the caffeine to stop drinking caffeine and not know why you'd have No. It's not the volume of liquid. No. It's not the volume of liquid. No. It isn't. Honestly. It's the... And I realized that because on a Friday and Saturday night I don't tend to have a cup of tea. I have a non-alcoholic beer or a glass of coffee. And you don't get up early. And I wasn't feeling the pain because it wasn't like me. It was like pain. Is it? You kidding me? Pain? Probably. Yeah. Yeah. That's what it is. So I thought like that must be it. And it's solved it. There you go. There you go. One question. What do you typically do when you're bored? Right. So this is the new thing for me. Got excited? Dave, you're going to think this is the weirdest thing in the world. I don't know what. I might tell you this is the weirdest thing on the podcast. So listen to this, Dave. So you may or may not know us here at ToffeeTV. We are huge gamers. We love our games. Me and Baz have had consoles through the years. We've just... We've loved them. We love getting stuck into our games. Whether it be GTA, The Last of Us, Red Dead Redemption 2, whatever it is, I've just finished by the man too. Now I know a lot of this stuff can be lost. Now Dave, you seem to me like a car you obviously have to get up early for the morning. You're out there DJing. I imagine this you may have missed out on this thing. I've never ever been into gaming. There you go. But I don't know why that is because plenty of my friends are into gaming and I'm of the right generation to be into gaming. But for whatever reason, it's just never really done it for me. And it's not to do with being too busy. It's not a job thing. It's not a lifestyle thing. It's just never really interested me when I've had the opportunities and just not my back. You just missed the boat and that's fine. You've missed out, but you know, memo. The thing about now is, is that it's like it's now it does like the games are expensive and you're waiting for that one game. And when you get it, it takes over your life for a few weeks, if not months. I can understand that. So I'm in between games at the moment. I think Baz is in a similar thing. I'm just finishing forbidden way. Or you're doing a thing where you're like you've got loads of TV to watch so you don't play on games. That's what it is. And then you go back to the games because you know the games going to take over your life. So the other so on PlayStation deserve you have to pay a certain amount a year for the to go on play online games and stuff. But you get so many games free with that for the year that like games that typically being out a couple of a few, a few like six months or other. The other day I was listening to a podcast thing was like IGN and there was some out this game called Power Watch Simulator. So I saw it was free. So I went and downloaded it. Now this game Dave is basically you jet wash things. Okay. You jet wash things. So you start by jet. This is going to put you into consoles Dave. You jet wash things, right? You jet wash your van, your van first. And then you start taking on like jobs. And so I had to jet wash someone's back garden. And then I had to go and jet wash. That's what I was thinking. So on Saturday night. You know Ned needs this. Because he remember to give it to the child. I've gone. Yeah I've gone. Right I'm just going to switch this on and have a little go. I thought I'll have a little laugh on this and then I might like throw a film on or a show or something. Two and a half hours later. I am still jet washing this back yard. And I am loving it by the way. I am loving it. You know I mean in many ways I'd imagine you're Mrs. Probably wish you have an affair. Yeah. So I'm jet washing it too. She's falling asleep. It's all good. You can, oh you can hear it. You're outdoors. So you're going on the beds and the wind. And it's like ASMR and you're jet washing. And it's, and I'm like, I'm looking at me watching. Like it's two and a half hours later. And I'm just get lost in it. So last night I'm playing it again. And I just, she's looking at me and she's thinking, you're mad. I'm like, yeah but you don't understand. It's so calming. It relaxes you so much and she's just went to me. Yeah those fucking dishes are fucking relaxed. Those dishes would relax me if you went and watched them. And I was just thinking, how weird is it that a task that you just wouldn't do. I'm certainly wouldn't do it. And yeah I'm sitting here playing on a play station. Which I could be playing so many different things. And I'm jet washing a back garden. It's better than getting chased by zombies though. Which just stresses you, doesn't it? Have you ever tried actual jet washing? I have. I really like jet washing. It is quite satisfying. Yeah, it can be, yeah. It is quite satisfying just getting, you know, out when the winter stopped and going out in the yard and spraying it down and everything. But this was just, this is like a different life. I was doing, I mean dad's got one of those cartridges, you know, the spray thing. And I was doing like path last year. But I was doing it with my slides on because you get splashed on. Yeah, it splashed back. But it went like that and it, my foot. Oh my God, the pain. Because you know about it, don't you? You know about, oh my, you do know about it. That is a punishment. So I just thought, but what a weird thing is to do about it. You couldn't wait to get back to it, look. He's thinking about it, look. You know, because last night, the minute, like, she, I mean, she was like. The minute she loved you, she looked tired, gone like that. No, she wasn't just had to do some work. Because she's actually had to go into work today. Jesus Christ, first time. She's had to go to work for three years. And into the office, she does work. She's gone today, genuinely. Ashworth, first time back at work for like two and a half years, she's had to go to Ashworth. I've played at Ashworth once, that's how you do it. No, I've played at Matt. So think about it, I went into play football in Ashworth. So she's going, she's going, I've got to finish some work, I'll have you, yeah. And I'm like, I can't wait. It's like switched on immediately. I'm Jonesing for it. Oh my God, you're terrifying. Like a couple more for a week. What a story, get it? Get it, listen. It's amazing I've never been into gaming, isn't it? I, you know what though, right? No, I mean, put the, just parked it yet. But for a minute, because that might be all right. But you, I, you look like someone I think who would like gaming. I don't, you know, I'm not saying you, but I just mean, like that's, because I can stream it, the cans on streaming. But there's games like Red Dead Redemption 2, Dave, which is unbelievable, mate, or Western, it's absolutely brilliant. I agree, I think. And when you get into them, it's boss. All, you know, all of the component parts are there for me to be a gamer. But I'm just not, or at least I'm certainly not yet. Maybe, maybe it's something I do when I get into my 40s or something. But yeah, yeah, it is an issue when you're only 30. Keep it sharp though. Yeah. It'll keep you sharp as you, as you do get into, you know, as you do get into mid, mid life. It will, these, you know, these things will keep you sharp. You know, you're, you're in an advantage over us because you've, you've still got that to come. Yeah, he's only, he's only been in the 30s. You know what I mean? You know, still got that to come. Mid 30s, he's technically. Mid, well, yeah, just about mid 30s, you know. Yeah. Must have had a fucking hard milk round, that's all I'll say. Watch, watch one thing. Did he have, did anyone have a milk round in Hong Kong? No. No. Fair enough. Well, or I didn't anyway. I don't know of it. Yeah, he wasn't, he wasn't out there looking. Watch one thing your dog could say that would completely ruin your image of him if he could talk. If he could, if he could talk, what I would dislike him? It's ruining your image of him. Oh, I don't know. I don't know. Have you said something like, Kenny's boss like, Kenny's ugly. No, we just got the leg up in the anyway. Ah, you can't do this, can you? You know, bet. That would ruin it. Not a beaver's like. And, and, and he'd be right. No, Sal is the man. And he'd be right, yeah. No. He'd be like, me and Prince. Fair play, fair play. Don't, don't, don't, don't do that. My dog, my dog could do certainly. He could say it wouldn't ruin your image of him if he could talk. No. What have he spoke like, Ned? Because Luke, he's a powerful dog, isn't he? He's a, he's a powerful dog. If you walked in and you're saying, all right, Dad, what was work like today? What, what, I mean, that would, would that, would that ruin your image of him in your head? Yeah, I'd say, I'd be like, get back to back. You're not allowed, you're not allowed anymore. Dave, what is the most hilarious fact you know? That's a big question, isn't it? Is that what to ruminate on? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. We'll come back. The most hilarious fact that I know. We'll come back to that then. We'll come back to that. I mean, when you say come back, I mean, you mean like in January, February? Next week. Next week, you've got a week. Come back to it. As a kid, did you ever have an imaginary friend? No, but I, I made up an imaginary island. Okay. Like an imaginary, like holiday place. Oh, that sounds bossy. What, to put someone off the center? Just somewhere where you want to go? No, I just, it was just part of my imagination to the point that, you know, friends of my mum and dads thought that this place was real. So it was just like a little island. Like, you know, you might have had, I don't know, Monorca or somewhere like that. It was just a little island and it was called Salamea and it had some nice beaches and stuff. And people said, this place is Salamea that you went to. Like, they've told us about it. Sounds great. I completely made it up. It was just a total figment of my imagination. And I drew maps of it in school. Sounds amazing. That does sound amazing. Well, yeah, I mean, people genuinely, I says, hey, actual real-life grown-ups, you know. Real-life grown-ups. They kind of said, you know, this place that you went on holiday, which sounds great. You know, your Dave returns about it. And I just look at it and I'm thinking, I've never heard of Salamea. It was all made up completely fictitious. Okay. It was just, you know, before we fit. No, I don't think so. Before we finish then, just give us. Sorry, we're just live watching. We're live watching Peds dog to see if he's going. I wonder what time that's in? If he's all right. Just checking if he's all right. He looks all right. He looks chilled. He looks chilled. Dave, so give me, you know, to finish, because I think, you know, we know that we've kept you. Just to finish, pretend you are the travel agent. And me and Pet are looking for a break for a few days to get away from Ned. Because Ned has now started. We're going on one of Andy Bush's cruises. We are. But Ned started barking because Loki's took his voice. Right, Tom, you need a little break. So we've come in to speak to you and your recommended Salomea to us. So like paint the picture for us, which had real life grown up adults questioning if this was real and wanting to go there. So what kind of things would you say to people that it was like? Sell us on Salomea. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Cass. The reason why you should go to Salomea is that it is a beautiful and unspoiled island. It has fantastic weather. It's got palm trees. It's got about three or four really world-class beaches. So great for water sports for sunbathing. It's got some amazing hotels as well. So the combination and the facilities for all visitors is first class. It really is just a fantastic place to go to. And if you want to have your perfect holiday island, I would say that Salomea is a place for you. What's the climate like? Hot. Hot. Hot. And dry. Hot and dry. Okay. Which is how I like my climate. That's how you like your climate. Hot and dry. Fair play. That sounds... Did you have many friends as a youngster, Dave? Well, you know, now when you pointed out, the more I think about it, the more slightly odd that it may have been to have completely had this made-up fantasy island. I mean, maybe it was. Did it have a little velagon? The plane! The plane! This is it. Because perhaps not entirely unconnected to that is a fantasy island was quite a favourite programme of mine. What when you were minus eight or nine? UK gold. Did you just... Oh, sorry. You know, I was obviously watching it on... Yeah, you're right. I was obviously watching it on catch-up then. Yeah. Years later, you know. Magnum PI, I'm a fall guy. Mr Rook. Magnum was amazing. And what was the other one? Heart to heart. Stephanie beating heart to heart. Yeah. But anyway, yeah, so go on. Back to fantasy island. The plane! The plane! Yeah, the plane to plane, Mr Rook. So maybe that had something to do with it. But yeah, I do think maybe it was a bit strange to make up an entirely fictitious island. It sounds amazing. But I did. It sounds amazing. Sounds amazing. Pat, did you ever have an imaginary friend? No, I don't think I have. I don't think I did. But it's a bit like the in-and-out thing, isn't it? Where, you know, bing bong. You've seen in-and-out, surely? The Pixar film. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. With bing bong. Yeah, I have seen it. Where it's like, you know, once they're forgotten and they're forgotten, you never remember them again. They're like dreams, aren't they? Yeah. No. I think I once had... Do you remember Chucky? Do you ever remember the show Chucky? Yeah. About the boy who could air the alien and it was horrible? No. You had Chucky. I think I've had a bit of that once. And it was... That was a bit disturbing. But I think... Voices in your head. But I think it was based off because I'd watched too much Chucky. I think so. It was disturbing. I think so. Oh, there is an alien invasion happening and I am the covening for it. I don't know. Maybe. That was a scary pro. Don't let me see kids problems today. I think, oh, it seems a bit scary for them. Now, there's just a kid who had heard voices of an alien and he saw visions of aliens taking over our planet. Yes, on a half-four on CBT, but I think it was the ITV. Scary. Fair. Dave would have missed all of this. All of that. Rugrats was the first thing he caught on... Yeah, he was... Yeah, he was... Nickelodeon, wasn't he? Nickelodeon, yeah. That was sharp. Nickelodeon. My error was... That was a really, absolutely... A dating club with Britney Spears. Well, I'd evolve in Christina Aglera. I'm gonna get dirty. Ned. Hey, she's on the Just Eat Adverse now. She is. She is, isn't she? She is, just the... Yes, she hasn't put a tap on, no, sadly. Ned, to finish, because we are going to finish now. I don't know what's going on here. Did you ever have an imaginary friend? Because you seem to me like you might have. No, of course not. No? Okay, I'm just asking you. I've never had that. And he's smiling now. You just had friends. You just had friends. Yeah, that no one else could see. Han. Who? And Leia. Han. Han and Leia and Luke. You didn't... Hang on, sorry, Ned. You did not discover Star Wars till you were about 19, so don't give me any of that crap. Did you have an imaginary friend? Yes or no? No. No. Okay, that was all I wanted to know. I don't believe you. I just can't believe it. We can't prove it. We can't. We don't know. I just can't believe it. Let's just leave it. You had Lizards. He's got Lizards. He's still got... Did you have any imaginary Lizards? No. Okay. I don't know if I actually have any. Do you have any imaginary dragons? I had one of them. Do you want your thunder, Dave? And then, like, all of one thing where it's like a bed at the top and then, like, loads of shells underneath. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I turned it into a zoo once and put all my toys in different... And, pretend that they were, like, because my dad had his own vivariums with Lizards in. I wanted my own, so I put, like, dinosaurs in it. So we had imaginary Lizards, then just put toys. You want them to come... Fair enough. Sounds good. It sounds good. Dave had an imaginary island and you changed your bed into a zoo. I don't think there's a better way to finish this. Dave, thank you very much. As always, Top Man. Everybody, give this video a thumbs up. Subscribe if you haven't. If you were listening to the podcast, make sure you give us a five-star rating. Why, wouldn't you? Yeah, and share. Share. Share and share a like. It's Christmas. It's the season of goodwill. Start sharing, like Alan's share. See you later.