 Would you kill for your son? What, I? Absolutely. You? Yes. Nice. Ha ha ha. Come back to our stupid direction, dude, it's up Corbin. I'm Rick. I am. Yeah. Rick's mom. You can follow us on Instagram and Twitter. JuicyGelm, do you think some Patreon followers could account me about something like this? Squad, bang! Come on, please. Can I just click them below? Whoa. I just threw juicy content all over the top of your head, mom. Oh, okay. I don't know. Ha ha ha ha. I watched Mom with My Mom. It's an inception, momation. And I will say this right at the outset, right as we're beginning to watch it, I'm thinking to myself, I really hope this doesn't suck, because that would be awful for my mom's first review, because she's already seen. Yeah, what's she seen? Bajira Mastani. Okay. English-Venglish. Okay. Badda. Love them. That's all? That's it? Okay, which one's your favorite? Oh, and Dolly Boy. Oh, I love Dolly Boy. Oh, I love Dolly Boy. She's your favorite so far. Do you have a favorite of those that you've seen? Because she's loved them all. I think I love the mom one. Oh, is that one of your favorite? Oh. Spoiler review. Spoiler review. Yes, let's see. Not an actor spoiler. I mean, there's a spoiler review. Well, this is a spoiler, we assume you've seen it. So, it came out in 2017. So, if you haven't watched it, go watch it, come back. This is our second tree-devil movie. We need to get to more, we know. And especially her classics. Her classics, because we've seen them later work. We've only seen her late, this was her last film. Like a year before she passed. RIP Shriek, Evie, man. Love you so much. But, we are reviewing the 2017 film, Mom, directed by Raul Udyawar. I think it's Ravi. Ravi. Oh, I couldn't see it this far away. Yeah, Ravi Udyawar, written by Girish Kohli, and also Ravi Udayawar, which was the story. And some of the story was written by Kona Venkat. And produced by her husband. Composed by Air Ramon. Shriek Devi is starring in it, with Nawazan and Siddiqui. Correct. Oh, and Akshay Khanna. Akshay Khanna, as well. And the daughter, I specifically wanted to find out. Is that Sajal Ali? Arya. Yeah, played Arya. Great. So, the synopsis is basically, after her daughter is sexually assaulted at a party, a furious mother sets out to destroy the lives of the four perpetrators who walked away free. As every good mother should. I think that gives a little way too much. I agree. I like a little more subtle synopsis, in my opinion. I think it would be better stated if it was something like, after a traumatic event, a furious mother sets out. That's what she needs to, or what does she want to do? To, to, fight the wrong, right? Fight the wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway. Anyways. But, like I said, 100% spoiler review. If you haven't watched it, go watch it. Come back. Your initial thoughts, please. Love it. Absolutely loved it. I think she should, the mother did a Academy Award for her acting. Shredevi. And the daughter. And that's, I mean, I'm just. Sajal, Sajal right now. Amazing. She was really, really good. Both of them, just amazing. Rick? Yeah, I, not surprised at the depth of Shredevi's performance and the honesty and the performance. The daughter was very impressive to play. Even more so than we talked about the daughter in Family Man 2 and what she had to go through. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But this was even more so than, as much as this film rides on Shredevi, it really hinges, the next person is the daughter. And if the daughter doesn't do a good job with this role, this movie's gonna suffer. And I thought she did a really good job. I had only one aspect of it where I'm being hyper critical. I felt there were some points, whether it was script direction or score option where it felt a little heavy handed at times, a couple of times. Kind of not bordering on melodramatic, but just almost a little bit heavy handed. That's the best way I can describe it. But that's a minutia critique for me because the majority of the film, I really enjoyed it. I especially liked, we'll get to this in a second after you give your input. There's something very particular about the ending that I liked. So ultimately, I think this is a really good movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I enjoyed it as well. I actually think probably had a lot of dislikes that I think it was a little too melodramatic at times. That it's just, my personal style is not that. Yeah, which is the parts I probably felt were heavy handed. And probably the end, some part at the end that I just. I for sure. I for sure. I just, I hate those style. I hate it. I love the message of castrating and murdering rapist. I think it's a great message for the kids. That's a message that should be spread amongst all of you. I agree. I love that message in the film. Like right when they were like, he looked down and I was like, his dick is missing. I love it. So obviously the message outweighs any critique. And at the end, I was like, I enjoyed that movie. So I have far more loves than I do critiques of this film. But there are some critiques that I will mention later on. Shredevi is by far the star of this film. I mean, I loved her in English vanguards. She knocked it out of the freaking park. She did this one. She brought it. English vanguards was a really fun rom-com where we got to see a personal vulnerable side. Yeah. This, she had to really tap into some places that were, I could see, man, I wish she was here to talk to. I could see she was tapping into what you have to do for this role. She was tapping into her greatest fear when she realizes what happened to her daughter. And she freaks out. I saw Shredevi accessing her greatest fear. If she wasn't accessing it, she was doing a monumental job. Picturing basically if it was her actual daughter. Whatever she needed to do to make it believable, I believe that that woman was feeling what she was feeling about her girl having been raped. Also, can Shredevi get a daughter who is not an asshole to her? I swear, man. It's true. English vanguards and this. What is, appreciate Shredevi. She's a sweet heart of a lady. She doesn't deserve your attitude. I went and started and she started, I was like, she just has shit hit. I swear. What is wrong with them? But yeah, I totally agree. What do you think about Shredevi's performance? Amazing. I just think that the combination of anger and love is in there, you know, that fueled her to do what she needed to do continually, not just at the end, but continually. How she was driven, you'd think just by love for her daughter, that's overseeing everything, but there's a tremendous amount of anger with the system that let her down, with the injustices in the world, with unfairness. And I think the other thing that hit me really hard was the little detective man. Nawaz. Is this your first Nawaz? Yeah, no, she saw him in English, but I had to remind her. Not English vanguards, the lunchbox. That's another one she saw. That's another one she saw. Okay, gotcha. So she's seen six, but I had to remind her that that guy, this was a character. But anyway, you were saying, I don't know. So his place where he says, when she's asking him to help her, kill them, basically, or do them in, he's saying, well, I know what they did, which is a wrong, but you're asking me to help you do another wrong, and two wrongs don't make a right, but there came a place, and I think that's really important in life, to figure out where those two wrongs make a right, because there was no one else going to set that street in any other way. She had no alternative other than to lay down and be victimized by it, or stand up and do the good stuff, so I was excited about that. She straight up when it was obvious that they were going to be let off. She said as we're sitting there watching it, she just says out loud, she said, are you telling me these guys are going to get away with this? Yeah, and it was, I thought a good move by the director, because it shows like, and they kept mentioning in the film, this is going to happen again and again in our country, because obviously, it's a massive problem around the world, but obviously it's a huge, huge problem in India right now, and that the system also, just letting it happen. The fact that she had alcohol in her system, and that somehow discredits her entire thing, which infuriated me. Of course, it's comparable to filmed in a completely different way, and it's a different story the way it's portrayed, but it reminded me of quite a bit of the same subject matter in Pink. You haven't seen that, but you will. It's a great film with Topsy Panu and Amitabh Bachchan. And it's the same subject matter, and something else that my mom wouldn't be aware of is throughout the two years that we have had exposure to life and stuff in India, it's depicted a lot in TV shows and films, in fact, there's an entire series called Deli Crime about the subject matter of gang rape in India. It's the statistics from 2018 and 2019 are about comparable, and it comes out to, these were reported 88 rapes a day in the country. And many of them are graphically, what happened to her is tame, compared to some of the things you hear about that are so barbaric that happen in a gang rape situation. That makes you even want all the more to see the justice brought to the rapists. So yeah, she was several times saying if this doesn't end with the bad guys getting what they deserve, I'm gonna be really angry. And then at the climax, the climax. Oh yeah. She, Debbie's holding the gun. She's screaming to shoot it. Shoot him! Shoot him already! What are you doing? What are you waiting for? Shoot him! And as she's aiming, I said lower, and lower, and lower. But the ending part I was gonna refer to, I love, I didn't see it coming because I love to be as blind as possible. I try not to second guess so I can be surprised. But I loved that the trigger that got her to pull the trigger was the daughter saying, Mom. No, I hated it. I loved it. I, although I did appreciate the fact that this film, it was not just, it was not her biological daughter, but a stepdaughter, which I come from a family that I have a stepmother and a stepfather who I love very, very much. And I believe would do this exact same thing for me. If needed. But I like that complexity to that character. Yeah. Even though she was an absolute asshole too. But it made for a good film. Yeah. It's not my favorite style of film. You wouldn't notice definitively yet about Corbin. Corbin, Corbin prefers anarchy and unhappy endings. Like, it's fine if she was there, but the fact that she had to say, Mom. I love it. I get it. I get it. There's nothing wrong with it. It's not my style. I love it because it worked. She would have seen her and then done it and that would have been less heavy-handed. No, because what happened at that point is the girl behind, she's behind the tree and she's listening to the conversation that's being said. Oh, I know why they did it. And she realizes that she has done what a mother would do and she has the realization, while this is going on at the climax of the film, that she has really been wrong about her and she is a mom to her. Therefore, when she steps out, she looks at her and before she says, Mom, she gives her the nod of, you've gone this far, take it all the way. And I just, I look, what do you think? He didn't like it, I loved it with you. She was shaking her head, yes, at her as well before it came out of her mouth. They had eye contact and she was like, the yes nod, but when the word comes out of her mouth for me, it's, it may be melodramatic to some people, but in essence, there are words that trigger us. And I think that's a word that when that was said to her, it mustered up in that moment everything she needed to do to pull the trigger, because no one wants to kill someone, unless you're evil, I think. Right, right, right. So there's comes a place that that decision may never have been made if that young girl didn't speak that to her. There was something about that that was powerful that enabled her to cross the line and... Oh, I knew exactly why she did it and why the filmmakers did it. I just, I preferred less heavy handed piss in my film. She didn't just pull the trigger, when she heard she unloaded the clip. She unloaded the clip. Oh, I loved it. I was like, because she used what? The police officer's gun, right? Yeah. I was like, you're going to have to explain why you unloaded the clip in this guy. That's the other thing. The cop was really not on her side throughout the whole thing. He was trying to nail her for the murders, right? He was trying to nail her? Yes! Not that way, Corbin. It's too much whiskey. Whiskey. He's a... His name is Akshay Khanna. We've seen him many times. He's a great actor. Great actor. I thought he did a very good job. Very solid job. Because when he said take this gun and don't use that gun, I realized in that moment what he was doing is allowing her to do what he knew she needed to do as a mother. The bullet needed to come out of his gun. So the story could be I shot him. And I thought... I'm pretty sure in America you'd have to explain why you unloaded your clip. Yeah. No. That's the strain of quadrillion. I was like, cops are gonna wonder why you unloaded your clip in him, sir. Yeah, exactly. But, and I also loved it that I loved the way it was shot and I loved the way the actress was portrayed and it could, it was, it's very, very fragile what was done at the end. It could have broken and not looked right or been right. But the moment where they have together where they hug each other and she says I love you to her and you're touching each other's face and they're kissing was a very believable moment. If that was, if that was an acting exercise and I'm watching the two actresses work that scene there's so much that could go wrong where they're not accessing real emotion. They're uncomfortable being that close to each other. And I felt like these two ladies were great. Shredevi when she obviously lost it. Obviously understandably so. Obviously as a mother who knows her son or daughter just got raped and all that but like she'd lost it multiple times but she did a phenomenal job. And I've seen many actresses do a terrible job because that's such a hard thing to try to bring out because it's something you don't want to imagine whatever happened to you. And so like the fact that like if you're an actress and you're doing this but you don't actually bring what you need to bring to show the actual pain of a mother she just, she impressed me without the film. Like I thought she was a good actress. Like she did a great job in this film. Great job. Such a great job. Then there's the daughter who if you've ever experienced who experiences getting raped. Correct. And she is bringing forth exactly, I mean I felt it. No when she has that scene in the bedroom where she starts screaming and the father tries to, or she's scratching her skin and trying to get over for her, right? Because you know the mom wants to be there to help into comfort but. And at the same time, you understand the trauma of the girl. So it's just one of those broken moments. And I also want to say that the man who played the dad, not only was it well written because what you needed in the husband is you needed a loving husband who was also a strong man but not a definitive alpha male because he needed to be a little bit subdued back because the mom needed to be the one to take the vengeance. Is he related to Noa's? I don't know. Is that Sadiki? I know it's Sadiki. It's just to be a common name, interesting. But. I thought he did a good job. And I felt it was written well because you needed that balance of him. He can't be just a pushover. That would be annoying. And if he's too much, you expect him to be the vigilante. I did not like the fact that he lived. I actually was happy with the fact that I was like, I was surprised. I was like, he just shot the dad. I know. But then they said he's in the hospital and he's fine. I'm like that huge shot point blank. I agree. And so I was like, you didn't have to do that. We were fine though when he was dead. It was a good send-off. He was trying to protect his daughter. He was shot point blank. It's hard to miss at that juncture. They saved the storyline. Yeah, yeah. But Noa's. I want to talk about Noa's. Noa's probably my favorite actor, arguably. And in general. He put on a character in this one. Something I hadn't really, I mean, you've seen him do different stuff. But he put on a character. Yeah, the last time he became something would be Ron and Raghav 2.0 when he was completely other. He had a wig. I'm pretty sure he had teeth. Dentures. The detective. The detective. That's crazy wild. Yeah, yeah. He's a brilliant actor. He's Gary Oldman at like level. He's incredible. And I thought he did. I love that he went on a stretch here. Yeah. I love when actors take that chance. Obviously he knocked it out of the park. Did you notice where he was? Picking pictures of the bats? Sorry, hold on. When he was taking pictures of the bats down at the bottom of those steps. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've been there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And also we saw our friend that we interviewed from White Tiger. Yes, which of course, I'm sorry. Guarov. Adar Guarov. We've interviewed him. He's a great actor. Very, very good actor. I thought he did a very good job in this one. He was one of the rapists. Yeah. Right. Right when I saw him I was like, oh, that's exciting. But he was in a film called The White Tiger that came out this year that was produced by Priyanka Chopra, among other people. And he was nominated for a BAFTA, the British-rated one of the Oscars. And we got to interview him. We had a chance to talk to him and obviously he hadn't seen mom, but we knew he had worked with Sri Devi. And so ultimately, yeah, very good, very good film. I liked the fact that it's hard to watch rape films, obviously, but when they get the justice that they deserve. Correct. It's cool. Castration and murder. Correct. It's much more enjoyable that way. There's aspects to the film that I would have done differently as a director. Like the whole court scene, I didn't enjoy. Me too. That was like, I was like, when it was going on I was like, I do not like what they're doing right now. Because it seemed very melodramatic. It seemed very like cliche. Yeah, there was, for example, there was a moment when the dad shouted out in the courtroom and I didn't feel like it happened organically because the dad was shouting out. I felt like it was because we need the scene to raise the tension in this moment of the film. And that just, it doesn't, it doesn't strike with the purity of in the moment believability. Yeah. That was definitely my least favorite part of the film. Yeah. But I thought it definitely, it had a lot more good than it did bad in this film. Absolutely. I think it was in the hands of, I think this director's kind of new. Don't know. Yeah, two films. Two films, this was their first. Wow. This is their first film. Yes. So I thought they did a very good job for their first film. But I felt you could see some of the newness of a new director in some parts. But overall, I thought the film, Sri Devi, she's by far the greatest part of this film. Yeah. And it makes me, watching it the whole time, it's just, you know, she passed away like a year before the channel became... Yeah. Yeah, she, the channel started in the fall of 2018. She passed away in the January or February of 2018. Yeah. So we never got a chance to even have the opportunity to interview where she was incredibly young, gone too soon. 50 something, I think. And something we know about her that you don't know is she can do everything. She can do Lucille Ball comedy. She can do Debbie Reynolds dance members. She can be sexy. She can be dorky. She's played a two year old mentality child person. Yeah. She's considered by pretty much everybody in Indian cinema and the international film community as being one of the most talented women to ever be in cinema. Yeah, she was great. Yeah. And I'm sad we're just getting to our second film, but we want to watch a lot more of her. So please let us know what the next Sri Devi, I'm hoping it's a classic. I would like to watch one of her great Indian classics. So let us know down below what should be the next film of her she's watching. What should be the next film we have? Rick's Mom Watch, six for six. Because I just realized all the films that she's seen, Mom, Lunchbox, Gully Boy, Bajira Mastani, English Vinglish and Badla, and every one of them she's liked. So how hot is Ranveer? Love them. How hot is Ranveer? Which one is that? Tell me who it is. Which one is she seeing? Bajira Mastani. He's the main guy in Bajira Mastani. He's the main guy in Bajira Mastani. Oh, wow. Yeah, I agree.