 Mr. Speaker, if I were the member for Microsoft and I had outlined so many projects and I would find myself losing that seat and I would find my majority reduced by more than half out of being ashamed of myself because if the Prime Minister can come to his honourable house and call and speak about Sir John and he cannot recall how he treated Sir John's daughter. That reverence he has for the father of the nation, he did not have that reverence for the daughter of the father of the nation. But you know Mr. Speaker, the member for Microsoft is self-righteous. He never stands and says I made a mistake, I made an error or I did not speak the truth. The member for Microsoft knows very well what happened with the road between Rodney-Gritten-Groseley and between Kilago and just before the gas station. He knows very well. That road was built, started to be built without any plan. There was no plan to build that road. That road caused tremendous conflict in the Ministry of Infrastructure between the then Ministry of Infrastructure and the project manager who was actually somebody in charge of seeing about gardens in New York who he called an engineer. The person who was in charge of that road was a gardener who took care of gardens in New York and the member for Microsoft called him an engineer and put him in charge of that road project. That road project had absolutely no design when it was started. That road project was a direct award given by another minister to a contractor with absolutely no designs or no joints. These joints were done on the job and I didn't stop here. Mr. Speaker, on a point of order. Members, let's get this procedure correct. You don't put on your light and stand. Oh, my apologies. You put your light, I call upon you at which point in time the member standing sits. We want the procedure here, let the procedure. Member for Microsoft, what is the point of order? Speaking of point of order, the member is misleading the house. My understanding is that the Ministry of Finance is the one who gives the direct order. Your point of order is on your understanding. Yes, Mr. Speaker. Again, Mr. Speaker. I think it's unfair if I can't indulge for a moment, Mr. Speaker, that we continue putting the public through HECI. I'm certainly happy to have this discussion in a select committee. I'm certainly happy if we want to have a selection. Member, if I may guide you. On these points of orders, you may wish to call on the speaker to request of the maker of the statement the evidence of which he speaks. But to come and give you opinion, which the member of the Cassry's office gave and you wish for him to draw, it's not a point of order that can stand. Proceed, Member for Microsoft. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On the point of order, I'd like the member to withdraw the statement that he's made. And certainly if he's going to make that statement, Mr. Speaker, given that he's the Prime Minister, I would like him to bring the evidence of what he's saying. So if he's saying that the direct order was written by another Minister, I think it's only fair given the controversy. That's what you said. I can write that order. I said on the advice you and your friend. You gave it to me on your friend. It was signed by another Minister. Other than the Minister of Infrastructure. So if that is what he said or did not say, Mr. Speaker, I think it's important that he provide the evidence as the Prime Minister. But you are asking to provide evidence on something he did or did not say? No, Mr. Speaker, can you advise me on what you heard him say? Let me say what I said. Let me hear. Let me say what I said. I said that there was no plan for the road and the Minister of Infrastructure and you had a conflict because the person was in charge of the road, was a man was in charge of gardens, flower gardens in York and you made him chairman of a project management, a PMI, a project management thing and you and the Minister of Infrastructure fell out of that and there was no plan. The chief engineer wiped his hands off that extension you did between the gas station and Kilago. The chief engineer had learned to defeat. He said that that road, there was absolutely no plan for that road because there existed in the Minister of Infrastructure a plan for the entire highway. The entire highway. There was a plan for the entire highway that was funded by the curators which when you came into power you cancelled the loan because you wanted to do it by direct award without the tender and the curators, yes, you went to the curators and you told them to change the plan and they said no, it must continue. So you and the people of Grozily must blame you for this traffic jam. The people of Grozily must blame you for the confusion on that road because you will award. You know, you believe. Minister Khalid just wanted to know which part of what the Prime Minister just said there you wish the withdrawal to be? Mr. Speaker, he originally said that the... No, which part, my statement has a great degree of specificity. Sure. Which part of what he just said there would you like him to withdraw? The fact that he is making presumptions as to the communication between ourselves and the curators if he has evidence to support that I would be happier with it. But the fact is that the Prime Minister he is not speaking as an opposition portion he must provide the facts, bring the letter where it shows that the government and the solution cancelled the contract for the same reasons he just said. Please proceed, Prime Minister. I will speak as an opposition member to your own truth. That's what I'm speaking as. I'm opposing your own truth because you stand here. You said so many things here that I have truth. Anyway, let's get back to the road. So there was a complete design a complete design for the grocery highway. A complete design. The four lanes which are started the Bwaluwans Bridge which you criticize because it was a bridge constructed for one in a thousand year hurricane events. That bridge was certified and verified by the Army Corps of Engineers. You speak about continuity. You commissioned a commission of inquiry by the audit department and by some other people. That's how you mean only. The inquiry said that there were cost savings on that bridge of $300,000. What you did not do. What you did not do. You did not say that the bypass road cost $3 million that you gave full IREC award. But that bridge now is ready for four lanes to continue the work on the grocery highway. There is, there was a plan well drawn out for the grocery highway. That plan and these documents are available. But if you want to go back into the past we can go into the past. But you know we are concerned what you want to do. You want to put us off from the progress that the government is making. You want to put us off from the evidence in the calculus report. You want to put us off from the evidence from the monetary council meeting that the ministers attended. The progress of solution. You want to put us off from the economic progress in this country. So you want to take us in a diversion so we cannot deal with the progress this country is making. In the OECS we just came from a monetary council meeting in the OECS. And that for the OECS and that meeting will tell you the progress and the economic development in this country over the last year. But you want to go over. You want to go against the facts. You also come and quote figures. Now you no longer quote figures because the calculus report tells you different. The unemployment figures tell you different. The unemployment figures tell you different. The calculus figures tell you different. You write. That's it. The calculus report and the government will tell you sure. You refuse to quote it. You are not quoting it. You are quoting from you are quoting from you are quoting himself. You are quoting you are quoting from your head but you are not quoting from the facts. Caikish report the monetary council report we came from this morning in Abaliku. But let's get back to some some of the things to say. You spoke about the Mikohev centre. Do you know that that Mikohev centre was stopped in the year 2007 because the contractor was not one chosen by United Nations Party? Are you aware of that? Chups You see you like to insult people you want to say something stand up and when people that centre was stopped it started in 2006 the CDB it was a CDB project the CDB had chosen the contractor when you won the elections you stopped it not you the United Nations Party I don't know about the location I know the CDB had approved it so you should not come here and mislead the house mislead the house let's go back for several things for several things that you spoke about you you approved you approved the Belarus doctrine that said if you do not support the United Nations Party you not suppose get anything your own members stood here and said if you just start to cry if it's for that you cry you start to cry you said nothing you condoned state sponsored victimization you condoned it you you were the architect of state sponsored victimization you the member from Microsoft the member from Microsoft you sit in this in this horrible house you sit in this horrible house you sit in this horrible house you sit in this horrible house and you give the impression that you are such a champion for the needy and a champion for the poor and our projects are pro-discipline we have a right to protect the victory against you we have a right to protect the victory against you because if you are allowed to get back in government in this country Kuapo spoke the pipe of the people of Tenusha so we have no problems we have to protect the victory the victory is to allow you to prevent you from ever becoming that's what it is that victory we must protect it yes I have no say I have no say but the people have a say the people have a say and it's because of the people say you are where you are the people put a say but yeah so you must not come to this house and mislead this horrible house everything you said there every you everything you said here in this house is a half truth everything you said here is a half truth you failed to accept responsibility for your errors you failed to expect so what I'm saying to you remember from Mikusa is that this government will remain focused we're going to remain focused we're not going to be diverted look at the progress look at the system look at the systematic progress in this country look at education look at how we started from the basics moving forward look at the intervention we've made in small and medium size enterprises in this country look at how we are developing a new class of entrepreneur we're not calling people non-entities we're not saying because you did not have your father did not leave anything for you your father didn't have a business but your self-care of a business we are developing a new type and you see the new energy in this country you see an energy of progress there's a new energy there's an energy that is there's an energy that you can feel it and people come and the only person and you you remember from Mikusa you go all over this country saying bad things about the people of Saint Lucia have gone to other countries to other representatives and you say the worst things about Saint Lucia all because the people of Saint Lucia rejected you as prime minister you must stop it you speak about continuity you told the public that a foreign entity would take the government to court you talk about continuity you are the one who go to the airwaves and say the worst things you calculate murders your members say that before the end of the year over 100 people die you condone that you say to the whole world you talk about continuity you talk about continuity when you almost growth when there is a murder in this country you growth about it you speak about continuity when you wish that the tourism industry will collapse you speak about figures that don't exist just because you wish the country to collapse and you speak about continuity you speak about continuity because only reason because of your selfishness because of your self-righteousness you do not want to understand that the people of Saint Lucia have taken a decision let's get you speak about continuity you speak about the airport we have gone through length to tell you what happened on the airport we said when we got into government we formed a committee to look at what's happening at the airport everybody all institution do warn you not to go that way with the airport you instruct that slasper the slasper you speaking about you instruct that slasper on the airport the design for the airport you changed it you changed the designs for the airport that were approved you changed it on your order you just changed it you moved it to a location where the river near a river where everybody is saying to you you know why you did it because you wanted to encourage the SH and he raised it 6 people you did it so you can speak about the airport you have absolutely no legitimacy member of Amigosouth again Mr. Speaker on a point of order the members misleading the house I'd like to withdraw the statement that I am the one who caused the design changes to the airport that I am the one who made all these different things happen you took the you took the you to mean you personally and not your administration correct please proceed you got erected Mr. Speaker there is a document that says that he directed it directed last but to change the location of the terminal he did it yes isn't it me you are not giving me instructions you know you want to come and give me instructions don't give me instructions you have the time to give me instructions your time to give me instructions are passed you try you try you try to give us instructions you come and you try to lecture us about things that most of the time wrong you you are in a position can you do this do that let me ask you something you the terminal building was located in a different location you instructed last but to move it now you say it's not you for the advisor he is just saying he is just saying it's not advisable he is just saying it's not you he is just saying it's not you it was me it was a new what by the university what by the university what by the university was that what by the university yourself we have to understand that that's everything a lot of money we don't get anything from we said it's a lot of money buy your ass room buy your seat it's a very grand that's a big deal do we have any Mr. Speaker when I repeated again both the one north airport and said John decisions were not taken by the cabinet of ministers Mr Speaker a member from the count thank you Mr Speaker again, the member is misleading the house There is a cabinet conclusion on both those matters Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, do you and Nora, let me say it again. He was Nora Airport and St. Jude Hospital. Two committees were formed. Before any decision was taken, two committees were formed that did not include members of the cabinet. These committees made recommendations for both of these entities and they recommended the steps that we are taking now. Let's go back to Hewan Nora. The ISC, the International Finance Corporation, an arm of the World Bank. This prime minister went to Washington to have a discussion with the ISC on Hewan Nora International Airport. He was advised that they should continue on the PPP model. He was advised. They told him that that would be the best model based on the country's debt exposure and expertise in airport development. What he doesn't understand is that Hewan Nora Airport situation has not ended. So a lot of noise. But that airport situation has not ended. Let's get back to the facts on the ground. Because they moved the terminal building from where it was, it caused the government initially before the structure could start because of the piling. The foundation went up. I don't want to give the exact figures but I'm going to document to me. The foundation cost went up about 40 million dollars because they moved the terminal from where it was supposed to be to where they put it because of the piling that had to take place. So they started the Hewan Nora Airport with a massive cost of a run. When the committee looked at the situation, there was a discussion in the cabinet that we should consider that sunk funds. That that should be sunk funds and let us move on the other side. But when the cabinet further deliberated, the cabinet said that you couldn't have 40 something million dollars in the ground and just leave it and go somewhere else. So we decided that we would on the advice of the committee, we further brought in a consultant recommended by the IFC to look at the Hewan Nora Airport. He would make you believe that we just did it like him. It's not like all these phone calls they made for the contractor. And then further, we got a grant from the Canadian government for the IFC. We had to pay back the IFC and apologize for the behavior. So many people get up in self-righteous behavior as if he was the best. He forgets the history but you know, no matter how they try to spread all kind of lies and call me, I'm going to defend the victory and defend the injustice of the people of solution because we can't allow you to get back in government. Because so let's get back to the airport. You and your single-mindedness went against the advice of the IFC, the advice of the IMF, the advice of the World Bank, the advice of some members of Strasbourg, the advice of the opposition and you went on the folic of your own as it relates to the airport. If you had continued on the path of the airport, pre-COVID times, the airport would have cost about a billion dollars. The airport that you have there would have, if you had continued with you, would have cost about a billion dollars pre-COVID times much just now. In good conscience, I could not put the people of solution to that expense. So here's what we did and you said so before and the member for cash you solve is always ask for the bid. The bid will come up. Because of the 46 million dollars you'd spent on the piling that was unnecessary but made necessary because you had shifted the terminal building to ensure that your horse investment would survive. We said that we would not treat it as sunkers. So as we speak, we are designing because you know, this airport, there was no bill of quantities, the largest infrastructure, that is the irresponsibility of the member for Microsoft, the largest infrastructure project in the country. There was no bill of quantities. There was no bill of quantities for the largest infrastructure project in the country. No bill of quantities. It was done on a project called ASBIL. ASBIL, the largest infrastructure project in the country. So here's what responsible government is. Right now we are getting a bill of quantities prepared not by friends but a bill of quantities prepared by independent experts to look at the new terminal building. There was no bill of quantities. You think the public of solution would ever know that you, the biggest infrastructure project in the country after you shifted the terminal building, you instructed us last week to shift it, caused us to have to have paid in cost for overruns of millions of dollars. You had no bill of quantities. For the entire project, you have no bill of quantities and that's how you responsible as Minister of Finance and you come and self-righteous. Let's get to St. Jude. Because you believe that because you can stand up and see your things with your accent that you, people of this country will listen to you. They have formed you, they are not listening to you and they still continue not to listen to you because you are a stranger to many things. Some of them the truth. St. Jude Hospital. When you got into government in 2016 there was a handover report that you had from the engineers of St. Jude. I was the one who sat there and said there was a handover report. You hid it. You hid it. You refused to make that handover report available to the public of St. Jude. You hid it. But when we, I sat there and I said there is a handover report which you denied, you and your friend the one who lost also. The one who said I can never select him. He lost. When I made that point and that's why you are all on my case so you know, you are on my case I can take the people of God with me. When you and your friend here went at handover reports you all said you never had it. The handover report disclosed that the hospital only needed and you tried to malign them in a meaningful evidence so the hospital was had its issues but the hospital could have been completed. It outlined the handover report. It outlined what had to be done. You used taxpayers money and you paid suppliers for hospital equipment that up to now the people of St. Jude have not got that equipment and I met a supplier who said to me what kind of government you are running you have not paid me for equipment and why, why, why haven't your broad equipment to be used in the hospital. There is no reason you cannot give me any scientific reason why you did not continue work on the St. Jude hospital. A member for Nekus House Speaker, on the point of order the member is misleading the house and I would like him to withdraw the statement that he made about the contents of the report in suggesting that the report outlined a process to proceed the report I read made no such made no such and that has been made a document in the house and if we want to get into the veracity as to what he is speaking about which I don't think I can do in a standing order I will not. All I am asking to do is to withdraw the statement because the standing, the report that he is speaking of has been made a document in his house and there is nowhere in the document house it says the things that he just said. The document outlined the handover report isn't that a handover report the handover report outlined the handover report outlined where the hospital was and what was needed to compete with the handover report outlined then you commissioned the report and that report that you commissioned also said The report noted that the hospital was on a stop-and-go basis because there were no designated funds for the construction of the hospital. The report said so. The report that you commissioned. But the hospital could be used for the purpose of which it was built. It could be done. You understand? The report said so. You refuse. You left the buildings. You talk about responsibility. You left millions of dollars for rats and for bats, for grass. You left these buildings to literally rot. You talk about responsibility. Three years you left them. Three years you left these buildings. You left between 90 and 100 million dollars to rot. Plus the fact in your box, your box, with your box you had to use these same buildings to make your box functional. And that's what you probably must understand. The box that you're building, the buildings, the original buildings had to be used with the box for the hospital to be functional. And you must say that's not true. Rise on the point of order. The box could not stand alone. The box was never intended to stand alone. The box was to be used with the original buildings that you call old. So, when you come and you make these examples, you come and you make these statements, these self-righteous statements about you perfect. And you have the answers to all solutions problems. You understand? You have the answers to all solutions problems. You refuse. On the point of hallucination Mr. Speaker. Thank you very much Mr. Speaker. The members absolutely correct Mr. Speaker. The part of the old building that was used was to house the laundry building, the administrative block in the cafeteria. Because the remaining apartment building could not function with the core services of a hospital. But that's what he said that it was not a stand alone. Please proceed Prime Minister. Mr. Speaker, so with all his fiscal responsibility he left about 90 million dollars worth of work to be taken over by rats and bats and things. And we came and we cleaned it up. We restored it. You understand? And now it's as we speak these buildings have been restored. There are people who came from abroad, medical people, hostile people and said why did your government stop the work on that hospital? There is no reason. Absolutely no reason. No scientific reason. Why the work was stopped? And I tell you I can assure you and this is why that is the problem. I can assure you because of the planning and because of the motives of our government which basically is only to provide proper health care for the people of St. Lucia. That's our motive. We are going to finish the construction of St. Jude Hospital for the people of St. Lucia. And you refuse to believe that. You refuse to understand that because you had the opportunity. You had all the opportunity because we supported you. We told you to continue building the original buildings. We supported you. We are not like you that you oppose everything we do. We supported you and refused. Now let's get back to the health and security level that you are speaking about. You pretend that it's such a bad thing etc. You came here and you spoke about we don't have enough money for health care and enough money for health care and for education. You said that you never spoke about the health and security level. Now I gave one quote. You want me to give the other one? I gave one quote to you if you want to talk to me. Because you see when I leave you are going to go and deny it. Because you are such a convincing fellow. At saying what you think the truth is. The truth is what you believe. You are so convinced. In fact you have convinced some people on that. That they may even believe you. They may even believe you or some of them believe you. You reduce that by 200%. I want to ask the public to say for sure. What prices went down when you reduced that? What grocery prices went down when that was reduced? Let's go along memory lane. You and your surrogates that go along memory lane. What grocery prices went down when you removed reduced that? What grocery prices went down? Did the prices in the supermarket go down when that was reduced? Did anything? Did any of the food that we use? Did these prices go down when you reduced that? Did it not? And it's proven when you reduced that inflation was between 1% and 3% at its highest. Inflation has reached the highest level from probably 2008% and that nature. 6% global inflation. 6% all the supply chain issues. When pre-COVID there was deflation. There was deflation when you run the government and you on record are saying that you should not... This guy. You talk about 200% level. When you were Minister of Finance, the price of fuel was low because of supply chain issues but you said in the public that you are not going to reduce the price of fuel in the pump. You said so. You said that you are... You talk about health and security level. When you had the best times, you had deflation, you had a low price of fuel and you had the time when you could have brought down the price of fuel. You did not and you on record are saying why you did not. Now. We live in times, global times and anybody can tell you if they speak to their relatives anywhere in the world they will tell you how the price of food is increasing. We are concerned about the increase in the price of food. We are not deaf or blind. We understand that the price of food is going up. We have taken measures. We have taken measures to reduce the price of food at least to keep it stable. You on record are saying that our idea of helping the poor is to subsidize flour, sugar and rice. You on record are saying I can play all the steps for you. You on the record are saying that our idea of subsidizing for poor people is to subsidize rice, flour and sugar. You on the record are saying that. You understand? But now you come here and you without any shame talk about health and security level. There was no evidence in your government that you did anything to reduce the price of food when circumstances warranted that you could reduce it. There is no evidence. You could have reduced the price of food. You could have done it and you want to blame me for that. But you did nothing. You pretend that if you were never in government. You pretend that if you were never in this country. You pretend that if you did not get a country when the economy was under rise and when the country had both primary and current surpluses you pretend that the country never existed for you with your self-righteous pleas. So the health and security level as we said is not like what you said is in a block box to be used for road construction. You have never disclosed how much money is in that block box. You have never disclosed it. But you know your self-righteous where is the block box and how much money is in that block box. We say that the health and security level is to improve healthcare and to improve the security apparatus of this country and there is evidence where we have done that. We said if there is need for any changes we are not like you. We are not saying I am not doing this trust fund and I am not doing that and I fire because I can. We are not saying that. What we are saying is that if there is anybody who can give us ideas as to how we can collectively reduce the cost of living we will join them and talk to them. We have invited the Chamber of Commerce they have given us some ideas. We are looking at it because we understand the price of food has gone up even though we never owned any supermarket. We understand that. So we are not saying that there is not to be concern but to come here and to blame the government to use cheap political tactics and cheap political propaganda when you have the opportunity when your minister of finance when conditions are much better to reduce the price of food and you never did this. You reduce that for who benefited from your reduction of that and you put a 150 tax that everybody suffered from and you talk about reducing the price of bus fares by this guy. You see Mr. Speaker you you passed had the legislation that of tax charcoal black pudding sauce making black pudding making that's your under your government and you speaking about health and security levy that is only on imported goods imported goods that do not have not that exempt or not zero that and we in the process of revising it all the time but you refuse to stay that when we have done that we have removed that on building materials that people use for the houses you are not saying that at all and look go as the hardware manufacturers the hardware distributors what is the effect of that move of act go as them go as them but you stand here and you profess as if you are master in running the economy and you did so well on the arena you must say your first two years before Covid what you did and let's compare the first two years under us you on debate let's debate that let's debate it let's debate the first two years finally you on and on about landing banan I have told you several times before I have told you several times before that these discussions on land sales and land leases are something that the country has to look at you list out in view for it between 500 and 1000 acres of land part of it for less than 99 cents a square foot so let's talk about comparison let's talk about comparison you did that you we can discuss it 99 99 square feet 99 cents per square foot you know also but but you you have come here you have come here and you promised you were in negotiations with GPH why they felt I know I will say I am not going to say you know because I did something Mr. Member for Microsoft so Mr. Speaker you come here and you speak about your self-righteousness and corruption and you know if you are the fellow like that like involving TMT but that's not how I was brought up I know TMT fellow so I allow you to say your things but people are not saying you know people talking you know people are especially as the other government know people talking don't think they are talking you know not because we are saying what they are saying don't believe they are saying they are saying things they are saying I remember you said your class let you down you said so you said that is the reason why you lost election because your class let you down but I want to inform you that people are talking and when people hear you you and your surrogates making these statements of self-righteousness and making these accusations they just shake their head and say father forgive them for the people don't know what they did what they done so Mr. Speaker I want to come back and see that this water treatment in passions is part of the government's purpose of giving water to the people of Sanusia we are the ones who are being negotiated for the view for the water supply to give library to give government to the people of Sanusia we are the ones who are being negotiated for the view of what the supply వతిదిరారితినిఇవండిండి. అకిగారిలా. మనంగాయసాచినియండి. కికిధిత౾, కిసిలిమంహలికిమతికిసి ఆతినవపెకాకిగాను. వదివతికిన్. wick you had all the opportunity to do all the things you said you did why did the people reject you you said the people rejected you because they are part of the life of 5 years so you go to the life of 5 years too that's the reason you gave you that's the reason you gave that life of 5 years and some people are saying don't believe that he will come as he came the last time but we are coming differently too it's not only you that will come differently so Mr. Speaker I thank the members anytime the mayor of Amigos South gets up in this house because we have ignored him for quite a while anytime he or his surrogates get in his honourable house and misguide the public as he continues to do we are going to challenge every word of his association Mr. Speaker I thank the members for supporting this thing thank you very much