 Chat, what's up man YouTube? What's up? This is the needed podcast episode 90 90 and we came to conclusion chat You guys can agree disagree YouTube you guys can agree disagree that the best number 90 who is the best number 90? Julius Peppers that's that's pretty much what we went to a Hall of Famer. No doubt about it But I feel like was peppers the best not now I mean it might be a 60 year old man that watches podcast that knows somebody in 1970 that was a better 90 But for us that are within the ages of we know 40 to 20 or 40 to 15 I think Julius Peppers is it Clowney is not half the player that Julius Peppers was I don't know why you guys would say that you guys might be 14 and really don't know about Julius Peppers But I'll be honest with you guys. This was a slow week. Nothing happened this weekend man I feel like this is the loneliest loneliest Time of man right now boys the loneliest time, right? We're all waiting for the new game It is almost August the summer is almost over. Nobody can go and leave the house Early releases on a Tuesday, I mean I Am committed to doing a podcast every single Tuesday. We shall see players launch tournament. That's I mean, I'm really I Don't know man. I Haven't really watched any Madden lately and when I say lately. I mean like the last month. Um, especially regs I think regs is the Scott. Oh, I don't know why it's just like I Don't know. I'm just kind of I Don't know how to explain it. I'm just really not that interested. I'm really excited That's a good point might we cross that bridge when we get to it with the new Madden coming out early release EA access all those good things and one thing as we talk about the new Madden release, you know We get as I made a new video on YouTube about how to start competing and some of you guys that are kind of confused about the whole MCS Prime says how to play in MCS all that nature. I did make a new video about that So if you want to check that out, it's probably a amongst my other YouTube videos if you're in the chat It's on my YouTube channel But one of the comments and started to get some steam underneath this was that we get the game earlier than you And I know for me, that's simply not the case. I don't get the game any earlier than you guys I I get the same EA access that you guys get that I have to download it and I have to um You know wait for my EA access and all that and keep getting new accounts and things of that nature These so my hair could could grow back. It just wouldn't look good. That's so you know, I Don't know. I just I just want to know I don't get the game any earlier than any of you guys But you know, some people do think that but I don't get the game. I don't get the game any earlier than you guys I get it just like you so and But there's a lot of people with a lot excuse. Oh the pros get the game early. It's impossible to compete with them That was one of the comments that I got Lord Lord when what's good, man? Facts Vazquez facts bro facts Facts we don't get it. I mean I try now you guys and that's a good question As we go on a tangent that I didn't think I'd get here. I didn't think we'd get here in a tangent um for me Do you guys try to get the game early and where do you try to get it early? It was a lot easier? um before this downloading of Before the physical copy kind of became irrelevant It was a lot easier because everybody was a physical copy everybody had one now that it's downloadable. I doubt it's just There's no more video game stores essentially You'd always have to find like a mom-and-pop store that would sell it to you earlier and Honestly, do you guys have video game stores? You know I'm saying do you guys have you guys have been to a video game store? That's not GameStop or Best Buy or Walmart. You know The only thing I I don't have I never get the game early the only thing I do is instead of access I might get the game during access time, but it's never It's never before anybody else can get it. You know what I'm saying Just press play. Yeah, I don't know where I mean most of the times when I find a game store It's more about the past games, you know, like old school like GameCube and Genesis and the 10 to 64 and and they'll have a lot of throwback stuff. Maybe some new stuff, but not really the new stuff You know Little pop games. Is that right Vinny see Lankas I listen I'll be in Ohio. So I'll try to find Ohio. I know I will tell you the biggest glitch for me in the past Has been craigslist somebody selling it on craigslist has always been one of my biggest glitches As far as finding Madden early just search cat craigslist madden 21 Weeks before it comes out and you might be able to get it There he is Wesley 27 months and my man CJ CJ sex my man with the twitch prime Thank you, buddy. I appreciate it man Jesse in the chat we're going to chat. Yeah pop games. See I listen. I'm going to find some type of rinky dink Store and try to get it early from there um What if the cowboy sweep the eagle? I'm glad beans. I'm glad that's what you brought to the table See and and and just like that when being said that I want to ban the plebs again. I kind of want to ban the plebs Yeah, Wesley, well you live on a farm. So I used to have I remember one year as we're on this my man. Damn with it My man damn with the 10 months my god. Oh the main event my bad my bad the main event With the 10 months. What's up, buddy? How you making out? um I remember one year madden 09. I want to say no It was the year that Palomino and Fitz were on the cover madden 10, right? Jesse my guy with the gifted Madden 10 when they had the dual palomalu and Fitz gerald on the cover, right? I remember driving my buddy replay now Replay was with this crew s and s right and this was back when madden 09 SNS had like boy blue who was really tough and madden on nine And I used to play cfm's with them. Honestly, and that's why I know rich They got sickness if you guys ever watch him. That's why I know him so well From madden 08 and madden 09 and I remember I drove To new york from philly. I remember I drove to new york to pick up madden 10 The physical copy probably a week early, so I was excited about that But I drove literally he gave me the call. I remember driving up to north jersey now I'll tell you this is kind of before like gps before everybody had gps on their phone I remember I believe I had a I had like one of those Garmin their tom tom gps is one of those navigation systems Um, and I drove up there So it was a lot more difficult Even 10 years ago. It was a lot more difficult to go somewhere driving far away without gps on everybody's single phone So I definitely drove all the way to new york for madden 10 The first man I ever played was madden 06. I was like, uh I didn't play game. I don't want to say how I played. I didn't really play games as a kid I did but I wasn't like locked in like now or like some kids are now honestly Jay, what's up, buddy? Yeah, yeah, not it. I didn't have to print out the map quest But I did have like a little navigation device. What's a lot of people that didn't uh Didn't have back then really Yeah Yeah, it might be over for the for the new games my man honcho right there with the six months. Thanks, buddy. I appreciate it but Early access is as you asked that the more early access is We don't talk about enough We don't talk about how big of a scam early access is right Right Yo early access Game is ready to be played game could be released Let's make them pay To play it when it can be released And delay the really like it is the biggest scam now. I will tell you um For uh People like myself will buy a lot of packs, you know thousands of dollars worth of packs that little 10 percent You get all for having any access is beyond worth it really so uh You know what I'm saying? I it does come back and Wesley says I paid 250 dollars. So he bought what? That's like impossible to pay 250 dollars worth it. He accesses five dollars for 10 hours How is that? I don't know what you access you were buying you were buying you were buying the star wars you got star wars Oh for packs. Okay. I mean what the hell? You can't you can't do that much five dollars. What's 20 250 divided by five? I wish I could tell you It's 50 right 50 Oh, it literally honestly. Oh, you know what I'm oh you talking about. Yeah, it went out. You just kept you uh Well for me, honestly, even if I paid 250 It would make it back because if you get 10 off every hundred you put on a game $10, you know, it it pays off. So but at the end of the day it is I it is kind of scummy You know because I don't know I just don't like it We we talk about um the best games that everybody played now are free 100 free And madden is madden the sports games are do you guys pay for any other games? I mean, I guess like single player games, but I mean, I don't really play those You know what I'm saying? So for me, uh Yeah 11 summers it definitely makes up for it really does for people that really grind madden but For casuals, maybe not that good, but I guess casuals don't really need to have madden three days early You know what I'm saying Yeah, you fc Yeah, for me, it's like, okay The best games are at least all the first person shooter games are free 99. So I honestly feel like madden could be free One day one day. I feel like yeah, why not, you know Why not is my question My man ream with the 11 months. Thank you, buddy. I appreciate it But I do feel like, um I do feel like Yeah, access is kind of scummy But anyway, one of my what my main topic I thought of today now because Because it was such a slow week nothing's going on It's like the hardest thing to do is talk about madden when it's little this is literally the furthest time from popping because After the beta right between after the beta and between the new man comes out I feel like it's like madden purgatory. It's like There it's absolutely like a wasteland like there's no nobody's really watching it right now Um, and it's even tougher to talk about right, but so I think to myself, man, what this is my job This is why I do and I am me And we talked about last week we talked about what if they raised the prize pool like we need to raise the prize Fix madden prize pool, which I'll be honest. We talked about it. We moved on these franchise nerds Don't shut the fuck up about franchise mode. They don't it never stops any little post about madden Clint could be like, wow, we're really excited about the new blocking mechanics. Here comes freddy franchise Frank's franchise mode the game sucks Bro, they don't shut the fuck up For real. Do we not get the point across? Like it's unreal Yeah, like they are so angry and this was a how do you make a angry person happy? You will never make that person happy the the franchise people will never be happy It will never be nailed them never be satisfied. That's what I learned Literally every single listen. We could go um, I'm mad right now and every single post There's somebody bitching about franchise mode Somebody's bitching about it every single man in post could literally be nothing. Oh, this I'll be did you see this week? Oh the fastest players The fastest players in nfl. Tyree killed 99 speed. Here goes freddy franchise I'll fix the ratings the screenshot looks the same the overlays and the overlay needs new colors. I swear to god Yeah, bro. It's insane. Yo, they don't stop, bro They really don't stop and I feel like They're never those people are just never gonna be satisfied Yes, Clint could make a vaccine for for covid and franchise nerds will still say fix franchise mode Just for them to continue to suck just for them to continue to suck at mad Geez, but anyway, so So my whole thought this week was what if they did raise the price? Well, like I said, we kind of got over it and maybe we have to maybe we have to Keep that pedal to the metal with the fix franchise bro. The fun franchise mode. That's a good point Honestly, I think franchise mode is too good. I should put that tweet out right now Honestly, I think too many resources are going towards franchise mode Oh, that would get spicy That would get spicy, but I said one of my ideas this week was Um, essentially what if they did raise the price pool and and the the thought I thought What if they took the price pool and times it by 10 instead of giving out one million? They're giving out 10. What did they come out matt marco comes out? So I'll cut well, you know, we really thought we needed to raise the price pool So this this year what we're excited to announce is that we're going to raise the price pool to 10 million dollars Or that's 10 million dollars for all our competitors We thought we really wanted to give back to the community and that's going to be our prize pool this week So mark who goes out at 10 million dollars, right? What and and and naturally they're all being nuts. What would change? And I actually got that what would change for the mcs for the man 20 season Because at first you at first At first the um The notion is It would be a huge deal obviously be a huge deal But what would really change? Do you guys think more people would watch it because instead of playing for 100 000 now Now they're playing this game for a million dollars. Well, essentially they would probably pay for You know 200k. I guess honestly Honestly, I guess it would be easier for people to watch That's what i'm asking because I thought about it. I wanted to ask you guys. Do you think more people would watch? Just because they're paying for 10 times as much money Now so is this essentially now obviously it would be great to win that money like if I won, you know 90 or 900 000 instead of 90k I would be Probably a lot better off, you know um So I think it's more for the you know the 50 people that win the money I don't know if it would really make the entire mcs year better Uh from a viewership standpoint obviously ea is dumping 10 times as much money into the players pockets So they would be a little more pissed off, right? Yeah, I do you think it would get double the views for 10 times the money Do you guys think it would make that big uh? Yeah, it would grow the bottom barrel of madden casuals You know would it get 10 times? But I always think I'll tell you guys this man as somebody that's in the market Literally as somebody that's in the market for views. That is my job chat, right? How can you get one? This is my job. My job is not madden Right, my job is how can I get people to put their eyes on me, right? All homo, but nonetheless, how can I get people to put their eyes on me? And enjoy what they're watching once again. Yeah, I gotta I gotta chill because you know it's 2020. I can't go too crazy, right? No, seriously, so that is my job So my eyes have been opened for the last three years is how can I Maximize the people watching me, right? And not only do they have to watch but they have to enjoy it enough to invest their time and their money and and their energy essentially, so that's been my job and one thing I've learned the most is that It is most about marketing man marketing is the biggest thing and if you want people to watch you have to promote it And obviously a tool and as a promoter a tool like a million dollar game of madden Would be a tool, but if you don't utilize that tool properly Your it's not going to be as successful as somebody with a if someone has a hundred thousand dollar game And but they're using that tool more to their advantage and they're promoting it better So I think ultimately the the marketing is way more important than the actual prize pool that they are playing for really You know See, I don't think see One one thing I always want to ban is when people compare madden to fortnight. I absolutely hate that shit I I hate it. It is a night and day game It is a night and day game fortnight literally everybody in this chat can play Everybody everybody in this chat everybody pretty much in the world can play fortnight If you have ever held a controller ever you can play fortnight 1 million percent. So I really I really feel that it's such a bad comparison to madden and madden is complete opposite of that Madden is for me is the hardest pick up and play game for kids for anybody than than any other game, honestly So I I really hate talking about fortnight. I hate talking about It in compare comparison to madden fortnight It has six year old kids watching it, you know and and to compare that to madden is just it's unfair It's completely unfair Have people get personalities to I hate when people say that have people get personalities Like what does that mean? Do y'all think that shit is that important? Do you know Like I really just I've never said like bro. Oh, well if people have personality if these players had personalities like One you're never gonna you're never gonna Build personality you're never gonna make somebody have a personality That's a completely natural thing that a lot of people don't gain until they are my age You know what I'm saying like teenage gamer kids aren't gonna have the personality of a social butterfly They're just not it's never gonna happen It's just never gonna happen You can't you can't make and ultimately you do that's not a personality contest It is a madden contest. So the people that so you can't just all of a sudden Oh, well, let's make the best man players have personalities You know what I'm saying My man snipe my guy with the five months man It's like we're gonna try to play in the pro tournaments As always as always You know so and and and this is another thing if If Yeah, the be easy guy I I just don't think there's a setting and and one of the personality things chat One of the personality things goes into marketing it goes into Publicity goes into promotion as part of personality Like there have been plenty of personalities that win win tournaments You know that play into all these guys have personalities. How can we how can we? Bring that to the forefront if you guys think personality sell obviously it does um, I'm not denying that but Uh, they have to do a good job of promoting that or bringing that out or making you aware of who this person is You're not going to get personality from watching somebody play mad There's probably a handful of people ever that had personality while playing madden And when you say personality you just mean somebody that's going to put it just tell jokes honestly Like that's all you that's all you mean who's going to get up there and tell jokes and dance around That's all you're going to that's all that's what you mean You know what I'm saying because you'll never get personality out of out of watching somebody play a game It's the behind the scenes things. It's hearing that person talk. It's interacting with that person It's seeing that person in a social setting and how do you get that Experience from just watching an event of madden. You know what I'm saying How can you find people from madden? You know Because I've played madden games. I wasn't I don't talk all mad again. You guys you guys would say to me Oh, well dubby has a personality But if I if I only played in mad events, would you know that? Would it would it make that big? Do I make that big a difference from somebody else that plays a madden game? Really? That's what I'm saying And the youtube guys you see them talk all the time You interact with them all the time streamers then you notice that's their personality But from simply watching them play a game of madden. I really just don't think There's that big a difference. Obviously there's people That are better than others, but honestly, I just don't think it's it's the biggest thing of playing madden, you know It's almost dude. It's almost like wrestling, right? It's almost you guys obviously The one thing that always like wwe, right? It's a show Right and the reason we watch is because we like the wrestlers at least when you're a kid Absolutely love the rock and stone cold shawm michael's Undertaker whoever it is because they have a personality, right? But that doesn't show when they're actually fighting, right? Right, isn't that bro? Do you know what I'm saying? Like when they're that's all behind the scenes things You know what I'm saying chat and that's that's kind of how I feel about personalities. It is their job to Bring the best out of these players for you know for what it is Honestly, so this is how I feel right Check hear me. Hear me on this hear me on this vote right Hear me on this when you see vote It's probably somebody you guys would characterize as with the least personality, right? Right, I agree like this guy has no personality or anything but I feel like Production wise commenting wise they could spin that to kind of like An evil genius type of like just locked in persona that doesn't really express himself And they could build his persona and make him a bigger character and a bigger personality than he is I feel and I feel like Somebody's presence and a personality is built Outside of sitting there playing matting honestly Really, I don't think I don't think Madden personalities help things grow. You know what I'm saying? I don't know obviously. I think production production is good But I think the personality as jag brought that up as personality I think that's something they don't dive into a much enough You know, I feel like we kind of know skimbo because he they've done a lot more behind the scenes things things with him, you know, like you got to see that He's into the baseball this day and a third and he's on camera a lot more at those events So that kind of builds his personality and his persona and you know, and that's something obviously It's easy enough to say let's just do that with everybody so you get to know these people really Yeah, kiv is somebody that then they could spin kiv as you know, like I you know what I'm saying Yeah, all right, so I I've never been a personality makes Madden events better really And if jay brucey nfl players should be more involved I'll be honest chat and and you guys are here you guys watch I never find any joy out of watching any nfl player ever play madden ever ever I absolutely think it's the worst thing ever talk to me about that maybe because I have no casual eye for madden I think it's absolutely Absolutely terrible. I think it's absolutely terrible you know I don't care how they how good they are. It's just like I never ever ever I never ever think putting those guys I never think that's it's a good thing. I don't know. I don't know if I guess it brings I guess it's easy. I'm at a red with the 32 months my guy. What's up, man? But like I said, it's pretty much on what if what if it was 10 million dollars, you know, I'd be a little bit better off, right? I'm saying I don't know. I don't think Here man is I and you said that and I'm thinking I'm thinking in my mind now Obviously, okay. Let's go. Let's put Peyton Manning is going to play madden on right Peyton Manning is going to play on EA stream tomorrow. EA is having a stream Peyton Manning versus Tom Brady and nfl madden, right? They're playing tomorrow Tons of casual people would watch it But would that continue for the would they continue to watch madden or would they just be there to watch Peyton versus Brady? You know what I'm saying And then the next day when it's on yeah, not that much They're not going to watch it again because Peyton's not there or Brady's not there. I don't know. I just I really am never interested But that's just me. I'm never interested in pro players playing madden you know Yes, my point is with the people that tune in for that stream then tune into another madden stream when they aren't there It's almost as if damn. I don't want to watch this anymore because now Peyton Manning is not there You know what I'm saying Let's go. But we're talking about Uh, I don't I don't know what we're talking about really just started rapping TJ White versus JJ White Watching pro players play his ass. I'd rather watch paint dry Glad you're in this a my man. Cool. Cool. Co Glad you're in here. Appreciate you, man. I might retire from warzone room By the way, pretty much what we're talking is uh, what if the prize pool was 10 million dollars? How How positively would it affect the entire scene because the more I thought about it as as I thought about this topic for Out throughout the day and yesterday is I don't think it would change that much I don't think it would benefit. I think Honestly, the main people who benefit is the the 50 people that are winning the money, you know, that would be great for sure but would it but would it really Be that positive for the entire scheme of the mcs really and I thought and I thought to myself No, I mean, yes, it was they did in skimbo They also said that jag my good buddy jag said that they need we need players with personality And I said that ea kind of controls how much personality of a player you see that is ultimately ea's decision Now if you guys think personality matters because let's be real Most people have some type of personality obviously other people are more, uh eccentric and more Comfortable in front of a camera, but everybody has some type of personality even journey Look at journey's tiktok dances. We can't capture a tiktok dance on the main stage You know So for me, I think everybody I think it's ultimately their job to display everybody's personality, you know Yes, I need to win If I need to win madden with if I won madden would definitely be great No, but this is the other thing about that, right? So you guys know how madden works, right? So they build up say a skimbo's in the chat. They build up skimbo. Oh, he's the bill bella check of madden He's the greatest player ever look at him break down film. Look at him. He's just a mad scientist He's always prepared nobody does it better than him then he loses Where the hell does this show go now? You know what I'm saying like where does their angle go now? So they've built up this madden player for everybody to get ready to watch then he doesn't make it Damn there goes all the work we put into his personality out the window People love watching the patres and cowboys lose the reason and I'll hear you this the reason why He can't lose That's why I think I mean that's where you're talking to an invitational with the youtuber players So you already have people that have established personalities Maybe if the j brusky, I don't know you have just been random Maybe if the pro players get involved they can help ea cheap ass for the pot get to 10 to 20 million dollars What do you mean if the pro players get involved? Do you want me to put 10,000 dollars of my money in there? Is that what you want? What? Okay, yeah, let me go put my 10k in there. Yeah skimbo. That's my man This is the chat has told us if we all put 10,000 dollars in the prize pool It will get to 20 million honestly not a bad idea chat if everybody in this chat put 10,000 dollars in the prize pool I don't know what's 10,000 times two to 300 Are we at three million yet? Or are we at 300k? No, that oh, we are at three million aren't we 10,000 times 300. I don't know Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it boys. Y'all got 10k my man, johnny madden with that gifted Thank you johnny and my man ao strung with the tier one. I saw a oh my god. Appreciate you Everybody putting 10k man Put the money up. What's the problem, bro? I will tell you I when I won my belt. I was I didn't have shit I remember going out after I won the belt and buying dinner For a problem. It was me skimbo mo problem and problems problem b and dany, I think And I bought dinner for everybody you you buy dinner for problem and me me and problem alone are dinners 200 dollars, then you do skinny mo and skinny actually mo and skimbo are both skinny fat And so they kind of eat too. So I bought dinner for all them. It was my last I didn't have any money. So you expect these people to have 10,000 dollars. Let's start it go fund me My man johnny madden going crazy. My man koo ko ko was gifting a sub after he said something wild my guy I appreciate it poker is a great model though celebrate the gambling aspect of it See now the gambling aspect of sports and video games. It's a huge part of man I'll be honest gambling is a probably a bigger part of man than actually playing man And the problem with maximizing gambling is gambling is so illegal And elite like gamble the legality of gambling is so sensitive I will tell you if if ea had a Live bookie on the twitch stream It would be unreal It would be unreal for madden. You know what I'm saying? Also, if madden got put on a bovado or something like that bovado bovada bovado I'm not the biggest gambler If madden got put on bovado, it would you guys see we can see right now the people that are streaming madden Is all going to be by bovada Whatever bovado. I thought it was old. Yeah, I don't want to talk about Seriously Facts they old and that's what I mean. That's what I mean the legality of it if if madden got put on there It would be unreal. Now. There are some other gaming aspects on it A lot of violence j brucey. So now so j brucey you went from us putting our $10,000 in there now There's going to be violence Call duty league they gamble on the call duty league Yeah, fan duel for I'm telling you if Honestly chat Like we love sports But there's more people that watch sports because they gamble on gambling is a huge aspect of sports That's missing in in mainstream madden. Essentially You know what I'm saying It is missing in mainstream gambling is missing in main mainstream madden But I will tell you it's like I said, it's a huge part of madden regardless But that's pretty much how I feel about the uh About um, what if it would be bad? Would it really be better? Yeah, my 10k. Let me put up 10k You can bet on a 2k league really you can bet on it. I mean Embracing gambling would be unreal. EA wants players money funneling to opening packs Mr. Man robot that is genius. Do you think EA wants people to buy their products that that that is just Bro, really honestly, you know what else would be crazy jig me Hear me on this chat. Hear me on this My stream my stream is laggy. I don't know if it's twitch. I don't know what it is right now But it's it's getting a little goofy over here on this end But this is and uh always now hear me on this hear me on this What if do you guys know how You buy packs and say okay Let me pick let me pick what team is going to have a better record And if my team has a good record, I get more coins like kind of that gambling type of pack How honestly bro listen Let's open let's open a million coin pack, right? We have the 16 people that are in madden bowl You have to put your coin on one person and if your person wins you get a million coins for your mud team You get to pick one person out of 16 And you get a million coins if you hit that right I feel like boom that would that would make the mcs pop Propics there it is Take your little take your little mud token put it on one person if they win you get a million coins I honestly feel like the coin selling they're they're um They're a refusal to work with people that are in the coin selling businesses Is holding them back honestly No, seriously. I feel like everybody. Yeah, exactly. There'd be something like that Where they had a coin where you could pick one way or the other and you get I think that would super help you know Exactly there you go virgin gaming Virgin gaming was great It was great for those of you who remember man 12 and 13 or whatever it is It was tough virgin gaming was the first time I got like a real check from playing video games And that was like the coolest thing ever I remember like depositing like 800 dollars into my account when I was what when I was like 22. I was like, well That's pretty that's pretty dope you know I'm telling you But you can't do You can't do real money because real money there there was your legality Thank you jb. Exactly. I think it would open up a lot of things for uh Fork madden in general Yeah, we'll see what we'll see But ultimately the question is would would Taking the prize pool up by 10 by 100 or what is it? By time by multiplying the prize pool by 10 Would it multiply the viewership and the effectiveness of the mcs by 10 really My man jazzy ryan with the tier one through november my guy. Thank you jazzy. Put some pennies in the chat for jazzy Yeah Fergie gaming was cool, bro. All right, so we did talk about We have talked about personalities of madden and that's funny. I didn't think we were going to go there This is how the world works. I didn't think we would start talking about personalities Um, I didn't think we would start talking about entertaining madden players I never thought it was like my job to be entertaining when I played madden on a stage I never thought like all right. I better be entertaining here. Never do I ever think that I mean obviously streaming and things like that you I think that it crosses my mind But most everything I ever do is just literally natural what I do in in real life What I would do if I was playing basketball what I would do if I was playing Bowling was against somebody. It's it's literally the same thing. You know, it's the same emotion. It's the same It's not stage where it's not Something I think about You know what I'm saying? I so I never my man Daryl with the twitch prime. Can y'all unbanned my man? I don't know why he got him saying he had the twitch prime on me. Shawnee. What's up? I never thought to my mind like let's be entertaining like I have to be entertaining That was never something I thought about when I was on the stage and it was good, man But I will bring and this brings me to my game now I will tell you madden 18. What do we have like another month before madden 20 or madden 21 So we're gonna have a couple more weeks of madden 18 games now this game. I want to talk about It's not the most it's not the most um It's not the most renowned game. It wasn't for champions. It wasn't for about this was actually a quarter final of the madden Challenge the madden challenge is the one journey run. It is draft champions. Now Madden 18 I don't know if you guys remember about madden 18 I don't know if it was good bad or terrible. I don't really know What it was the 91 zone year. It was the air truck year Hey, those thank you man. I appreciate it Yeah, so but this is a game. It was a actually I was one of my games I love talking about my games because I'm actually able to give you guys like a super Insight rather than just what I think and this was I played Joel So we talked about entertaining people Joel is probably uh on the top of the list of people you guys want to watch play madden, right? Uh, so I played Joel. This was the madden challenge. I was in a group at the time was one of the best groups um One of the best groups ever at the time because it had me Uh, hollywood, drini and kiv So at the time it was I was the only belt winner in the time and what's crazy about this live event Is that I was the only person that was like over 21 in his whole live event Literally I was the only person Um, I was the only person that was over 21 in this live event. So I was in there with hollywood kiv and drini So the little babies Um, I actually went one and two Uh in the group, but I kicked the shit out of hollywood and so my point differential was so good that I moved on I had to play joel To get to get to the final four. Yeah, let's talk about it. Yes This is the game that joel and we'll watch it because this game. Let me cover this stuff up though, man I don't know This game tweets in the chat my guy. What's up, buddy? Now I remember draft champions to get to the live event um to get to the live event for me, uh, it was tough because It was only 16 people. I think that made this The classic was eight people 16 people made this event. Um, and they had just tweaked Uh draft champions before this now draft champions at the online part was really uneven It was really uneven. Everybody had 91 zone. Everybody could have no 5 91 zones or no 91 zones Once we got to this event, right? Once we got to this event. It was even so everybody had the same zones. Everybody had the same, uh Where maybe everybody had the same amount of 91 zones and great players and everything like that So it was even team and I remember joel Literally just ran a ball You just ran ran ran and and this time of the year actually There was this l1 juke where you could juke out the first person every single time If you're person at any type of juke you would get the first person every single time where there was a user Any single player you were jukein out the first time with this l1 juke And uh going into this game, I knew joel was just going to run stretch stretch stretch There was more stretch in this game In madden 20. I don't know madden 18 or madden 20. Which one had more stretch? Uh, I dude i'm telling you madden 20 we forget about madden 18, but there was a lot of stretch in madden 18 And I had great stretch defense. I won million percent had the best stretch defense in the whole tournament I believed um throughout this game. I'll show you guys exactly what happened And why uh It was rough, but like I said, I stopped the stretch really early really well And I don't know if I get the ball look at this like look at this like look at I'm just pissed watching this I'm just pissed watching this back. I really am just pissed watching the back just great throw right there quality Just quality man Did I have anthony bar? Yeah, so everybody had a really good team in this draft champions Uh tournament everybody had a really good team. We all had good playbooks Um as I have Jarvis land you right here My biggest problem was I did not have I don't know why it's fun right and I look back I look back at myself play these games. I I had no run stick at all I had green bay playbook. I know that but I had kirk cousins was my quarterback Which was the biggest L of my team, but it was a decent kirk cousins at the time He was pretty good And green bay playbook was super tough and chris thompson was the running back Chris thompson actually had like super juke and you could do this l1 juke all the time Yeah, I ran a lot of tight offset in green bay a lot of corner strike Boom, that was skimbo's dot that I was not good at in this tournament if I was good at this dot Oh my I would have won this tournament. I was I do this one play The skimbo's little play that he put just throw the c-route like before it gets back open Bro, if I was good at that for this tournament. Oh my god, I would have won the tournament But I wasn't good at it. I just kind of knew it. I didn't know it all that well Do you think these graphics are asked? We always say, oh man, it looks better. Man graphics looks just that in the third Look how fast they flip So this was you guys don't don't see people don't remember that this was my play for for how long Just the absolute master of this play And right there you see I had adam thielen. I will never have adam thielen ever again Never have him again on a team ever Kota, what's up, man? drag drag corner post literally all you needed Um, if you had a good route runner and that's something I remember look at how I have Jarvis landry adam thielen to shine jackson And I believe deandre happens Look at this Yeah, that was a bad play. See this is one play Where I'm like, see this is this is like classic dubby overthinking. I'm dotting the shit out of him, right? I'm gonna audible down. I think, you know, he's gonna run commit because actually You know what happened here chat? This was the weak box here Remember a weak box when after after I won a belt running dollar against every formation They put this weak box shit in the game where if you came out and this is why I want you'll click I this game I I was so pissed off. I remember this game so bad now Remember weak box when they put weak box in the game where you if you run the ball and against dollar Everybody will fall down, right Now that didn't happen. I thought he would run commit because I caught him in dollar against the run He did not run commit right there, but weak box. This is man 18. Yeah, so he did not run commit I thought he would because he was caught in dollar against the run So like I said a little bit of over overthinking right there And I remember weak box. We're definitely gonna come back to that later in the game We have him on aggressive. This was the aggressive year aggressive year was great and terrible it I don't know how to explain it. I think it was a super L aggressive pass rush was a super L in man 18 Pretty much super L all I'm glad they got rid of that put it that way so That's Jarvis Landry making plays when you got that route running He can get open. He can make plays and that's why I had Jarvis Landry at that Right corner back spot. So here it is. This is the play. This is the party game. I was like beyond pissed I remember talking to Clint at the time like dude. What's up? I remember this This is dollar This is three down linemen all db's and nobody's getting pancaked Not a single person. So naturally I think I know huddle here No huddle because I want him to have dollar on the field because they're going to get pancaked And at first I thought oh, it doesn't work on stretch Because I just run stretch again or I run dive. Maybe it only works on diver stretch I run stretch again. Nobody got pancaked db said naturally We're going to know huddle again because I don't believe this this is impossible. Maybe it doesn't work on stretch Let me audible the inside zone. He's damn sure going to get pancaked, right? But of course no pancakes and I get tackled right away Uh Fourth thing go right here. Um, I already got a turnover. I already got him to punt the ball I I feel like you have to take your field go here chat. I don't know Do I go for this? I don't think I go for this No, we don't go for this. Don't drop our nuts. I feel like with a possession already in hand I got to take three to get the lead. That's how I feel No, I just feel look at that punt. That was a dot I just feel like you have to you have to take the possession lead So like I said now we're just great run defense. I have amazing run defense for the stretch in this dive Literally if if if if joe can't if joe can't run the ball, he can't score that literally just cannot pass If he can't run, he can't score. That's pretty much how how this game how my defense was And that was a lot of people in this year Uh madden 18 it it was tough to stop the run more because of this juking this left trigger juking and all of that nature more so than anything else Here you go madden 18 Bro madden 18 looking back. I don't know if it was terrible. It was kind of cheese I don't know if it was better 18 or 19. I don't know which game was worse Uh, I don't really know which one was worse, but there we go. That's that little juke. I'm talking about that Just any juke move pretty much got every got the user. It got any person in the world A user computer were falling on every single juke 18 was better than 19 Look at that run defense. I feel like my run defense is good. I feel like it's really good And this is where things kind of went south where he found that he found I'm going to run bunch inside zone Once he found that we started having a little more trouble, but it looked good right there Oh, we just hit stick them forward See this bunch in Bunch tight end inside zone. See that user just got that juke just got every single person Just get an extra 10 15 yards every because the the first person got juke every time You would have to like try to move away What's crazy is you would have to try to like take your defender move away Let him do a juke animation and tackle and at the time dude that stuff that's the hardest shit to do Here we go again, just nobody to tackle him He's just this bunch now The biggest problem with this is that my bunch inside or my uh, my stretch defense was not good against inside zone That's what I learned fast really But one thing in a man game You don't necessarily believe that yo, oh, that's a dot You don't really believe that yo, my defense is bad It's it's not the first time you see a run pop you that makes you say a big dot right there Djack price a rat caught that and scored a touchdown I don't know. I'm kind of asked was there rat catches this year I guess so why I don't know chat. Yeah, of course there was right No, I don't think no the shan Jackson doesn't score. He's not that much faster than these dudes. He's not that much faster And and I tell you so you don't realize this Bro, they would break they would literally get juke on every juke if they had the angle So I'm thinking he's gonna get juke like the juke was op it really was But I just did it a little bit too early. I think You know Really? Well, I said go back go back to defense. You don't think your defense is ass Or right away the first drive you still believe in your defense. You don't abandon shop until later It takes chat. Let me know. How long does it take you guys to abandon ship and buy? Yo, this is not this is not working now here. I want to use some time So he doesn't get the ball back. I get the ball at half. I feel good Um, I feel fine on on offense. I really do I feel like everything's working bunch tight offset every single thing I'm doing I have his defenses. I feel fine against everything. He's doing on defense. Yeah, I feel like bro I don't got to abandon my defense yet ever Here we go my man, there he is landry. He kind of got boxed right there Needed that was my first in completion. Here we go again third and nine We're gonna run y out for the chaloups Now this is where I have feeling now feeling didn't have 91 route running I think landry was my only real route runner and you see that right there as he got boxed I did not expect him to get boxed Uh Broken up now if I could have kicked this field. Well, I probably would have kicked this field Honestly, but I could not kick this field and you damn strong punten I don't think I could kick this field Well, I I wouldn't really present with a kick if I could and I in looking back. I don't think it's that far of a field But I could not make this field But that's a mega dot right there Of course, I was in Tim's man Yeah, we could I couldn't make a 38 48 55 yarder 55 yarder now Right there. I feel like bro. I could have had a way bigger place So he's using his timeouts to get the ball back essentially And we're just we just want to milk milk some time right there now Where does 70 go because somebody just tell him watch 70 where did you go bro? Like bro, if you block this like look at this like they like like bro They say I don't have run stick. Look at this shit that happens to me Where is this guy going? Where is he going? Yo, if you block him We get a block here and it's one-on-one with this guy Like what? Like that's insane man And just now this when I look back at my entire madden career right here This is probably the biggest drop I ever like this is sickening And the number one reason I'll never have Adam Thielen ever in my life ever in my life There's no way Adam Thielen drops that on a possession catch. There's no way That was a dot dude. You cannot drop this man So when I look back, this is one of the biggest drops I'm talking about get the ball inside the 10 If I catch that I get the ball at the four-yard line first and goal Literally can take the whole half with me and get the ball back honestly Yes, exactly That that that this hurt this honestly hurt looking back like bro I need that caught I need that caught honest. I need that caught So I had to kick again. So seven to three Beautiful kick beautiful kick out of bounds right there. He has no timeouts But honestly this this insides almost start hurting me. So now the next drive. I'll shift my line that way I'll try to shoot the gap. I got blocked. He's getting freaking 20 yards or 18 yards on that right there There's no runoff. This is madden 18 is not madden 20. There's no runoff He had separation. That's all you needed And it's right there. I call it timeout. My defense was bad right there. I don't know why I call it timeout Bro, Theland Theland isn't a speed receiver. He's a possession guy. Catch it. That's your whole job spam spam spam Haran, he's running again get out of bounds. I mean, dude, look at my guys getting just fucking mauled. Look at this shit My blockers blocked like this Yeah, it was bad when I dropped that that catch right there great defense Tried to pass. I'm telling you it was it was ugly every single time Every single time all I gotta do is stop this. I actually this is 335 wide I went to and said, you know what? No more inside zone. See the juke. That's like the juke I gotta have better stick there tackling but the juke literally got it literally got your user every time Like you would have to back up and let him juke and that was bad stick And then he gets out of bounds at that spam spam spam But he runs out the half like because like like how does a man run the ball here and not go up right out of bounds? Like what is what is this? That was honestly terrible. I guess he couldn't make the field go anyway. He had to get there first down Half time rg and call rg suit. I'm not I don't know y'all feeling the rg jacket wl I mean Jesus. They really had halftime shows back in the day The jacket was a oh, nobody liked it Bro, so honestly if you watch this game, I kicked the field one-on-one yard line. Theland had that huge drop. He's on aggressive again Um I feel tough chat. I feel tough Okay, chris thompson get up out of there. I feel tough No, the butters are not still told brennan. Come on, bro Okay, see that and you know, that's what killed me this year as I was so good at scrambling with the quarterback this year And I had nut ass Cousins I wanted came looking so bad Like he whooped his ass. Why out bro. I'm telling you like why out was so hell Joe didn't know what to do against this shit. He didn't know what to do, bro Okay, flat routes flat routes with the juke. Give me a cool five Yeah, bow at every position was the worst shit ever pa post that's playing man in 18 or man. Yeah Missile, I mean just absolutely missile and shit right now. Just absolutely missile and shit I don't know where I don't know what chris thompson was on the the red wolves And of course, you know that welcome to w welcome to the fucking w show I get agapt by look at these like like bro. I swear to god. I don't be bitching about the game I don't but when I look back at this shit Look like like what? What? Oh my god Honestly, I should have ran the ball there at all. That's my fault overthought it Overthought that but now we got second and goal on the whatchamacallit second and goal on the 10 yard line Corner strike all over the place right here missile How could and how can a man get how can a man that get whatchamacallit bad bad timing bro? Okay, okay with the angles My man got a bad timing user pick or bad timing. Why I think I missile some shit here Missile there it is boom Touchdown NRL specialists, bro Let's just show you could not stop the little juke Second and 12. All I do is stop this. See now. I'm kind of God damn it, dude. My team sucked dude. Who is fighting for my money right now check Can you find one person on my team that's fighting for my money right now run run run run run? He's y'all was kind of ass honestly I was so bad at tackling looking back man. I was It was hard to tackle in this game really It was hard to tackle in this game There it is. Oh my god. Look at my team, bro Was this target passing? I mean, I feel like it's right there though. I feel like my defense isn't bad I feel like we're right. Oh, we gotta do is make a play somebody got to make a play for me There it is there it is third and six Yeah, inside honestly inside zone killed my stretch defense. My stress defense was super good. That was a dot My stress defense was super good Air truck, but my my it was not good again some Good job right there 21 Yeah, so that was bad defense. I guess I don't know air truck I mean this but at this time of the year honestly the juke was better than the This was juke time. This was not trucking time. I don't think I don't know everybody was jukein That's why I have chris thompson because he could juke, but I can't get an open field because nobody can block Okay, little baby dot to chris thompson. Okay I mean, I don't know why I'm not why out. Oh quick snap. Okay tempo on offense Okay, okay, that's no big deal. That's no big deal Yes, spin year, but I'm telling you the one thing that did kill me. I was so good at scrambling I think I get boxed here. Honestly Oh, I need that caught hopkins. Come on hopkins Just don't have the speed right there. Anybody fast. That's a tutty This was a good defense though really Corner out still corner out It's just tough drag champions was tough because if you didn't have the speed that you're used to It's gonna get rough No, that should have been he was boxed if he was a little faster Honestly, I should have put this should have been to shine jacks in there But the players really weren't all that fast really But it's just this fucking inside zone, bro truck juke My team was selling the bread, bro Like what happened here, bro? This was like man in 20 me me trying to play run defense right now He runs in the end zone this fucking inside zone killed my life. Oh, that was dirty. Oh my god. That was sexy Oh my god, that was sexy Oh my god, that was just oh my god chat. Oh my god chat Oh my god That was sexy Big dime and mad mad in 19 and the mad 19 was 35 But I knew I had to watch them call it. I had to get this two point conversion This was my money play. That should was money for so long. They're like patched it They like patch that play so I tied a game up, bro feeling good now. This is where I have abandoned Bro, I have abandoned my inside. I have come out in three four even now I have abandoned my regular stretch defense because I know I know I can stop inside zone If he runs stretch, I might be boxed, but I'm not getting beat by this inside zone Bro, they colored in my beard so crazy this tournament Yeah, there it is. Boom. Now you gotta pass. I remember saying that now you gotta pass kid Oh, this was dirty. Oh this look at the step up Look at the arch. Look at the touch. Oh That camera view was kind of tough too chat Or that camera view was kind of tough So now third and 15 Joel has no idea what to do when it's time to pass He's got damn marino and he gets sacked boom. So this is when I look back on my life I always tell myself man now Hear me on this chat Now I don't play anybody that runs single back wide trips, right? I don't play anybody that does that, right? I don't play anybody that does single back wide trip Everybody I play runs bunch and bunch for me bunch was unstoppable and met in 18 when you got to Fourth and forever when you could smart route any 20 yard situation You could not stop a corner route and an in route You could not stop that corner route. You had to guard that corner route There was no protective sticks protective sticks did not work in this game at all zones would drop back 15 yards So anything over their head? No, seriously Anything over their head Is complete Right anything over there has complete and that I know that going into the play, right? I know that going into the play So I have to blitz every single person Really and it's just I I blitz every single person I turn on aggressive We're on aggressive every single person is blitzing deep blue deep blue deep blue now I have no idea how what fucking play is coming in this this play. I have no idea Obviously out routes, but I'm assuming one of these guys is on an in route in route out route, right? That's what you assume in route out route. So I have to kind of guard this guy It's going to be an in route somebody has to fight we sent every single person on a loop Nobody fights everybody stays home and he can run 25 yards down the field and throw an out route boom There's nothing you can't stop that You can't stop 25 yard routes in this game. You couldn't I'm saying you just could not stop those routes in this game really But honestly as bad as it was and I win that game if I stopped this He said that was the best pass ever. Oh, it's so hot. I threw an out route that that shit was like And then this dude just runs runs inside zone breaks a tackle tied a girly going off I sent everybody wrong No, that play didn't decide it. I gotta stop the run better. Look, I just let him run back in the field range Really Yeah, he just ran wherever he wanted. Yeah, I lost because of that But my run defense wasn't good enough. Oh, yeah, that was hell fucking 25 yard out route was hell. Yeah Yeah, honestly the best dot ever Yeah But that was honestly, uh But they fixed that mean protect the sticks works But when I look back in it if it was two out routes, I feel like I could have stopped that and covered too, bro Yeah, my run defense wasn't that good. I mean Could have held him up right there Joel was joke Yeah, I guess they I mean Yeah, I don't know But I don't think I could have really did anything different on the fourth down really I just Maybe I could have sent everybody Honestly, I didn't know how to defend that that formation because I never play You know, you never play against single back like what normally you're used to defend a bunch Where you know, you have to blitz everybody You know what I'm saying? 5-4 Michael I'm just done People always look down on runners. I guess I don't know I'm just I don't know people don't look down on runners. I don't know. I don't know if it's that I don't know if I don't know if people look down on runners. I don't know if that's the case. I think I think this year was worse, especially like the the the nasty streak time is a little worse Running is always a big part of competitive men Running is a big part of football because if you can run the ball one, you don't risk Fumbling throwing interceptions. You don't risk Anything bad, you know, you can just run the ball. You don't have to be cute You don't have to you know make somebody make a read call the right place. You can run the ball. It's easier Like it's the easier way to do things running the ball will always be a big part of man and In football, you know, there's been so many tournaments where people do way worse running than we've seen in man 20, honestly No, but it's the Vasquez is different Yeah, what's my sign how like bro like what like what? How is that like relevant? There it goes. I'm running running the ball will always be easier than passing. So uh people will uh 10 to whatchamacallit people will tend to lean that way. It's easier to win games. There's less risk essentially So running will always be a big part You know Running is like camping in warzone Yeah, it is it's easier. It's uh less risk. It's less risk pretty much the big thing It's not even about it being easier. It's less risk But honestly, that was a good game. Um, I feel like I hold that game, but I didn't play good I don't think I played good defense. Honestly. I don't know. I don't think I played that good a defense I had really good stretch and dive defense. I didn't have good insides on defense that game No, I think I still had those Timbs. I don't know where they are I honestly that fourth and 22 probably like Probably I don't know what I could have did different, but I don't know obviously what you're saying Honestly for me, um, it's probably the second the second Um play I would take back in my whole madden careers the second one really That fourth and 22 really Because that game was super winnable and I thought I played really well on offense that game No, I'm not doing wishlist with the chat no more the chat the chat doing what's my call I mean the fourth and 22 to me is like if you played madden You understood that you couldn't stop anything over 20 yards any right? You couldn't stop it really So it's like What could you really do? I wish I should have blitzed eight people honestly Should have user rushed but I feel like I needed my user to cover the middle of the field Maxwell, what's up, buddy? But man 18 I like I said, I don't know if it's worse than mad 19 I mean, I honestly feel like I feel like mad 20 is better than 18 and 19. I don't know Yeah, I might call me crazy, but I think it's better than 18 and 19 That's what I'm saying. I feel like I had to guard the middle of the uh I had to guard the middle of the field there my team sucked that game easy. You're right I'm ready to blame my team. I'm blaming thieneland. I'm blaming nut ass christ johnson I'm blaming or chris thompson. I'm blaming the right guard that didn't block that linebacker on that play I'm blaming a lot of shit. I'm blaming I'm blaming where was my weak box on the first drive on my running plays inside the 10 Where were my where was my weak box? I got weak box for my whole life. I couldn't run dollar man in 18 Seriously, suppose you really couldn't stop You couldn't stop 20 yard routes in that game Like that ass could not stop 20 yard routes really That's all But what are some other madden 18 games? I want to tell my man 18 last year in the summer and we talked all about Hey my guy My stream labs isn't which one of y'all donated Got to open my stream labs And then joe played kiv and he played kiv really tough after that honestly My man dj willy. I should have known bro The chaos game No madden 18 was who was on the cover brady Who's on the cover mad 18? Brady might have been 19 Antonio brown. Yeah, that's right Antonio brown tweez in chaos game. That was not classic It was classy because chaos went crazy obj was madden 16. That's why they had the aggressive catch of madden 16 We just throw it up and hold y You know All right, well, this was like I said, what was your other favorite as I asked you guys Y'all said tweez and chaos man 18. That's your favorite games skimbo versus problem club series great game um Ghost versus saffa club series was a great game drag versus canes and club series was a great game Uh, I don't know if that's even footage wise. Um man 18 We talked last or the last one we talked about was journey versus kiv in the championship um Yeah, man saffa and ultimate league was definitely tough Uh dragon strafe and I don't I might have been 18. I don't know Skimbo tweez. I was good. The classic was a good tournament That madden classic was popping the way they did that one. I don't know why they ever got away from that Well, seriously Now, obviously, I guess Jacksonville kind of derailed that plan 100 but I don't know if the format was supposed to be the same skimbo blocky So you see let me know what were your favorite games for madden 18 And we can put those ones we can talk about those next week and the next like what three weeks to come before madden 20 One comes out crazy madden 21 Coming out in one month about one month, right boys one month. By the way, this was the new package episode 90 91 next week chat best 91 ever go 91 91 night Fletcher Cox locked Fletcher Cox is locked as the best 91 ever I agree or disagree chat Mean Joe green over Fletcher Cox. I don't had to add them brown. Was mean Joe green 91 I don't think he's 91 though. I think you're just cabin Five more weeks. Jesus I don't know But all right, I'll highlight y'all man. This has been real next week. We are uh, what's my call next week We are rocking more madden 18 games. We'll see what goes on on committable more. We can talk about next week