 Right, so we are live, so we're just going to wait for more people to come in and to those who are joining today, so the ticker just started. My name is Hamzah and today we'll be having a speaker from Unimas who's a senior lecturer, Mr. Chua Kiman. But before we invite him in, let's just wait for more people to come in and to those who are interested to know more, just share it around because I believe there's a lot of people who are really keen to understand today's topic. And I believe it's a very interesting topic, especially for students and orang yang macam still figuring things out. And I myself is actually very keen on this because in a way, you just recently graduated and you're trying to figure out what kind of thing that you can do, especially at times like this where everything is very volatile. So, hi, Evie Tio. So we also have Jasmine. We have Heineken as well. Wow. Yup, you're my friend too, Cik Guni Ne. Thank you so much for coming in. So let's help share the livestream today so that we can have more people to basically get more takeaways from session tariketok. So saya cakap kita very chill, very relaxed. Ifakda soalan keapa-papa, you can always comment it down below. Today has been a crazy day for us intergas because we do have a lot of programmes ongoing and this is actually my third life and I believe Mr. Chua himself has also been going through a lot of stream, online lectures and all these things. So if you are wondering what he has been doing, just invite more of your friends. We're going to go live soon together with Mr. Chua. And then to those who just made it for today's live session, thank you so much for coming in. Untuk yang saya tahu, this is called Hashtag Innovate Sarawat Speaker Series. It's basically a sharing session by passionate innovators, entrepreneurs, changemakers and creatives alike to share their journey and experiences. So this is your chance to actually get to know all these very passionate people, very experienced people and these people are very busy most of the time. So today they're making their time to actually reach out to us, to actually engage in the community. So if you're interested to understand their thought process or if you want to know like what are the resources or the tools that they're actually using to let us know later on I'm going to share a lot of like resources especially from our today's speakers because he does a lot of sharing on his website as well as in a way he's an educator as well. So it's a great opportunity to have him here. So now that we have around 90 people in hello, Robin, Raven. Good to see you again. Right. So I think now that we have quite a good number of people let's into our main session. So to those who joined do help me out and do help us out to share this session today because it's going to be a very interesting session very chill session and maybe for some of us it's going to be like that decision making that you might have not thought of before. So again to everyone welcome to our second episode of Hashtag Innovate Sarawat Speaker Series. My name is Hamza the moderator of the day and of course with me today is our speaker Mr. Chua Kiman. So before I invite him in to those who just tuned in Hashtag Innovate Sarawat Speaker Series is a sharing session by passionate innovators, entrepreneurs, change makers and creatives alike to share their journey and experiences throughout what they do. So let me just move to our screen today. So we have Mr. Chua on my I believe it's going to be on your right or on your left, not so sure. So thank you so much Mr. Chua for joining us today. Ya, hello Hamza, hello everyone. I know it's been so fast and meeting on your end. Ya, so far so good it has been a very hectic week for me in non-stop session as well trying to grab everything within these few weeks just to get things done. Okay, so I believe you are involved in the higher learning industry and you are a senior lecturer in NIMAS but maybe like can you start off with a more in-depth quick introduction of yourself to our audience so that they get to know about what you do. Ya, thank you to Hamza as well as the guys for inviting me for this speaker session for the first time. I think it's my first experience with this speaker series but I'm a senior lecturer at University of Malaysia, as indicated in the posters and in the description. My main field is of course in e-learning in educational technology in language and communication and all that but apart from being a lecturer I was I am still active in the startup ecosystem helping a lot of budding entrepreneurs within the campus especially to to get their ideas turn their ideas into something practical something useful for the society or community and all that so I also have a lot of help a lot of graduates in terms of preparing them for the job market especially developing their soft skills or some people call it essential skills so Ya, basically that's my job scope Ya I kind of lost you Hamza, sorry Ya, sorry Ya, I was muted for a bit Okay, so it's interesting that right now you are in the higher learning industry because I believe like you are in that place where you're observing a lot of change a lot of disruption especially in the education industry and then recently as we were talking in the backstage it's now you are seeing Ya you know like schools are open and they're closed again and open again and the same goes with like universities too and people are switching to e-learning and students a lot have been complaining about how all these things have been messing around with them but maybe like a quick opinion like like what do you why why do you think all of this is happening especially like is it a bit too late that we're jumping into e-learning or like is it like is early e-learning in a way like the solution of it all so before we jump into the the session after this Ya, I wouldn't say it's like something that we we really want it to happen but with the current condition that we have Ya, we have we have I wouldn't say no choice but this is one of the best way to deal with it for the time being while we wait for the for the real solution to to kind of fade off this kind of situation due to the Covid pandemic and all that but you can see a lot of pro and cons with the online learning e-learning and all that but I think as of now things are coping quite well for all not for teachers for students but somehow I think you know we really really need to ensure that we can move forward from here I'm not sure why my camera is flickering again weekly I should Ya Ya, like this is the like lecturers won't glitch if it's physical right so I guess these are the the cons of like online the challenge, yes sometimes it's not the solution I mean it's easier the fact that we don't need to be there physically but all this like internet and all these things become a new a new challenge for a lot of us so that also comes into the first question like since we're talking about you know challenges and all these things with the world put on hold for the past one year you know how have you seen the landscape of entrepreneurship and employment in Malaysia change based on your own experience well you know I was really observing from from the high education point of view I would say or maybe education in general but looking looking into what was happening previously for the whole year since maybe March 2020 until now I think pre-COVID we were already you know in a situation where the job market is not really really that well you know not responding well to the global situation I would say as you might have read because you know like like in 2019 our our economic growth was actually about you know were reduced to 4.3 you know wasn't that good actually but you know who knows you know things changes so fast to 2020 you know make made it worse in a way and then you know if you if you see the change in the landscape of entrepreneurship and employment I would say well the negative side of course during COVID a lot of people were laid off you know all sweet job and all that in critical industry especially tourism in aviation these are the critical industries even in higher education we see a lot of people resisting you know entering higher education because maybe they need to get money first they don't want to go into higher education that kind of situation but in terms of in terms of the general landscape of entrepreneurship and employment if you look at the bright side a lot of people are also venturing into businesses which are not really a thing before that you know before COVID things like you know like what we're doing now you know you see more and more youth getting in touch doing more content online on YouTube on Facebook and even for educators they are developing a lot of things online so these are something new in a way they would be using to generate income or to to be able to kind of embrace entrepreneurship from a different point of view not the traditional way of brick and mortar kind of like you have a shop and sell things you see a lot of people selling things on shoppy as well you know all this of this channel e-commerce channel things like that so yeah in a way pre-COVID has its pro and cons you know and then during COVID I think more or less trigger a different kind of perspective towards entrepreneurship and employment but of course it's still the critical thing it's still the drop in employment I think we we realise that unemployment is is increasing quite quite rapidly and I I was reading you know like in October 2020 the unemployment rate it was actually 4.9 is quite high compared to the usual 3.0 something that we normally get so I think but things are slowly recovering I can see and we've all the initiative by the government you know with the Punjana program and all that things are slowly kicking you know off to a better start but fingers crossed you never know what's going to happen next but at least I think it trains us to be more resilient in dealing with a lot of you know economic crisis so even the not just economically but also in terms of our well-being as well can our well-being it's also quite quite disturbed or disrupted for for the past year and I myself felt that you know you felt it more often because of this workload you're not working from home you're living with work as they call it some people say you're working from home but actually you're living with your work in a way so yeah that's my take on that question agree and I especially agree on the fact that you know like you know the fact that what what's happening right now is something that's very like unprecedented no one has ever thought that you know like something like this is like gonna damage like the whole world's economy and I believe like whatever that the government is doing right now like yes it can help but at the same time I think all of us should be taking a role into trying to help you know like dampen this whole thing because all these like grants and initiatives could only last for so long until the day that we yeah we we somehow you know like manage to remove this all kan and we were also talking about how like it's gonna take a while for this to to really to slow down kan yes so um vaccine is one one way to ease the situation but it's not like a magic pill that you know suddenly everything is back to normal but yeah we I agree with you in a way we need to be more you know responsive to that we cannot just sit and wait we have to do something about it as well we can't be hoping for government to keep on pushing more initiative but from our and we we should also you know come out with impact of pandemic right true true and talking about action I've been seeing like a lot of people who were retrenched you know moving into social entrepreneurship and this is one of the I would say like one of the opportunities that arise during this whole pandemic situation people are starting to realise like how important it is to help other people and to create business that will actually impact someone else such life especially at times like this because everyone's going through a hard time and everyone understands each in a way so you know like I would like to know you know like for those who are you know currently still working you know and to those who are considering to become an entrepreneur or to those who have yet to work at all you know what are the criteria like in your case to consider before someone becomes an employee or an entrepreneur before they take the leap of way I have to give a disclaimer first you know I'm not a career coach in a way but I do I do help a lot of you know first graduate to be more motivated in seeking for employment and all that but I have this kind of like a foresee kind of approach in evaluating yourself whether or not you should be starting your own business and become an entrepreneur or maybe maybe you know you are better off being employed first and then slowly going into entrepreneurship or maybe you can do both at the same time depending on how how would you be able to rate yourself within this 4C continuum lah dia it's like you know a scale that you can measure yourself it's not like an absolute scale but it's something that I refer to so the 4C the first one is always I call it as commitment alright and commitment comes in two views the first one is of course your commitment to whatever you have you know your bagages you know your family maybe your loans you know some some of us by the time you graduate we have about 20k that in our in our bank account that we have to dig you know a lot of things some might might have been you know buying cars you know all these loans and all that those are your commitment right this one so you have to weigh in into how can you cope with this kind of commitment and then the other one is your own commitment to towards that cost that you are doing whether it's social enterprise you know if you are into helping others to achieve their goals then how how much can you commit you know you have to be really clear about this you don't want to be agreeing on something but you can't commit or you are putting in you know very minimal effort to something that you are supposed to be committing more you know things like that so commitment comes in both way your baggage that you hold on to how much can you sacrifice you know how much can you let go and then commitment from your and how much you can put in so what what to let go what to put in so this one has to be very very clear if you can't if you can't evaluate yourself from this this perspective then you you know let's say you can't let go a lot of things you know you can't afford to take more loan to start a business and all that then you might want to consider being being an employed person first you know just to gain the experience again gain some income and then you you proceed to entrepreneurship maybe or you can do both if you want to depending on how then another one of course is courage this is really really critical as you can see like for youth who are really really into entrepreneurship doesn't matter whether it's social enterprise or what not this one is the critical critical element right in a lot of youth like if you don't have the courage to try or to take risks well you know maybe you're better of being an employee first right and before once you're comfortable then you can proceed to become an entrepreneur I think a lot of people are like that you know they become an employee first and then once they get the confidence once they get the skill set they will move on to become an entrepreneur people like you know Elon Musk Max Zuckerberg even Jack Ma they start off you know one thing to be kind of like getting some income first or some some money or capital to keep start their project and then they they jump into that kind of the risk or become an entrepreneur like Elon Musk actually if you read his story he started that first company Zip 2 mainly because he sent and resumé to Netscape I remembered and it was rejected Netscape didn't want to hire him so he end up being you know open up a new company himself so you need to take that courage to to take that leap right then the third C is consistency you have to be consistent you cannot be like to today I wake up I want to be entrepreneur in business A tomorrow I want to go into business B and then after that I want to be in this because you you've been listening to a lot of people and then you you're not consistent in your in your pursuit right you have to be very disciplined and consistent and consistency means you are giving your best at the same time and also it leads to adaptability because if you're not consistent in doing something you cannot adapt to to a lot of things because you let go very fast right once you're consistent in something right you become adapted to that situation or that that skill or whatever whatever it is you become very adaptable and because you're consistently improving yourself if you're consistent consistently being in that environment and it helps you to develop that the adaptability and we know people who can survive these days are people who can adapt right it's not about you have the the best CPA or you have the best skills that is the one who can adapt the most are the one who are surviving right this is quite critical so if you are the type of person who cannot do that yet you know you might want to see the continuum or being an employee or being a entrepreneur or a boss right so the last one is the focus capital I think this is this is no brainer in a way if you don't have the capital you can't start a business you don't want to end up you know getting a lot of loan but then you know you're not you're not helping in terms of building your own business and things like that so yeah I would say you you might want to consider this foresee depending on your skill and skill as in like how if you have if you can give more and all that then you decide whether entrepreneurship is better for you or employment is better for you but personally I would suggest you to be to to probably try because you've like like you all now you know quite flexible in getting the opportunity to be to be to be trying a lot of things kan ah you know like like people say you're still young you know you can try you don't don't know how you know you can jump into like like what you did before you start started something and then it didn't work out no how then you join learn something you know take an internship for two years or one year and then get get the hang of it and then restart you know how you are you are not at risk of losing a lot of things yet but once you reach like 30 or mid 30 or 40 then maybe you have to be more stable in that sense so you can't really take a lot of risk but like as as the saying goes age is just a number so even if you have the passion to start entrepreneurship at the later age you know how but while you if you're young then you don't you have even more time to to try you know so those four sees that I can see and in terms of startup SMEs or corporates I think again ah all this I just fancy terms for me um even if it is a small business you can or small enterprise you can call it startup or social enterprise if you put more emphasis on the social part of it the impact of the social part of it then I mean it doesn't really matter as long as you're clear what you want to do right um the branding or whether it's a startup whether it's an enterprise whether it's a company that that comes later in a way ah whatever you want to call yourself what what you need to be clear of is what are you doing right in for your business if you want to sell be a good damn you know damn good la sasa sellor you know you don't you don't just you know oh oh alang you know just sell one two days and then store one two days store you know you can't be like that it it in in order to be an entrepreneur yeah agree agree and and I really like the fact that you also talk about you know like how the younger generation has more in a way like we're cushion you know like we are living in that each whereby like if we make mistakes so we still have something to fall back to this insurance you know in a way you have father, mother and some people you know like have other family members but I do understand there are people out there who have no choice but to those choice option you can always try it out um it hurts a bit but you would actually like give you that experience that you might need moving forward and and I like the fact that you also mention about when you are like moving into your 30s I believe that's when the R comes in the CCCCCC R responsibility right so whenever you want to start something you always have to look back at responsibility then baru you must talk the lot see apart from CCCCC it's okay you know like now you have responsibility your wife the kids whatever actually that goes that goes under commitment as well which meaning to say when you are young your commitment are slightly easier to let go but when you are older your commitment is harder to let go especially you know you age and then your parents also age is very hard to let go you know understand understand and it's responsibility in a way ya true true yeah just that it gets bigger lah if all of it is a circle right so um so to those who just tuned in welcome again to our hashtag innovate Sarawat speaker series and today we have Mr Chua Kiman and we're talking about something very interesting in my opinion of which is should you become an employee or an entrepreneur so a lot of people have this question in mind and if you think that you know you don't want to think alone then please do leave a question or how many questions as you'd like so we'll try to answer as much as we can after this session so we do have a couple of questions to go so if kita orang-orang tahu apa-apa or macam orang-orang tanya tips ke apa Mr Chua is very famous so amongst his students to actually like share tips and all these things so just tanya kita akan jawab sebentar lagi and in also at the same time to those who are interested especially students Kamehawang will launch this program called youth founder mentoring program that we're running together with free actors school so we're actually actively sharing this on our facebook page since earlier this week so it's basically a program that's open to all Sarawakian students from institute of higher learning fresh graduates and even early stage startups with at least one Sarawakian co-founder so to those who are interested to apply I believe like my team is gonna put the link on the comment section later so just apply just asalkan kita orang Sarawak or at least ada seorang orang Sarawak pun boleh macam Mr. Chua atau mungkin kinek miskinnya macam aduh like kenal lah si tu you know so my goal for this yeah so Mr. Chua has been a great advocate for like startup movement within the university and I think you've been involved in a lot of programs macam startup weekend nampak semua tak nak startup grinds as well kan yeah so um maybe like a bit of your opinion you know from a lecturers perspective because I believe like a lot of students have also been like going to you asking for opinions on maybe like you know like in a way like if suddenly a student were to come up to you you know what would be your opinion on how they should react to the volatile job market like what should they do or what should they not do I think you know I normally get a lot of fresh graduate coming to me and say like you know I I've been I just graduated for like a month some even six months I mean more than that as well you know I've been looking for job but I couldn't I've been hunting around and all that so my my my first question will always be where do you find you know or how did you find your employment and all that because sometimes if you if you open up your mind a bit and try to list out all the strategies that you have taken and try to talk to people right and then ask people you know I've been trying this I've been putting my resume up on you know various job portals I've been marketing myself on LinkedIn but people just don't notice me maybe you know if like like like the the saying goes right if you have been trying something and you didn't work out maybe you have to try different in a way something is not right with that and then you get you know you get to talk to me and then I can get to see your things and then I can kind of like maybe advice or maybe ask anyone you know who are already in a job market they can probably advise you but the first thing that I really really encourage a fresh graduate to do is to really take time to reflect on their skill sets not your cgpa not not the courses that you get A whatever but what are read we know what are the really critical thing that you have learned throughout your three or four years in universities or maybe outside of universities list that list them out and try to search through on you know all these portals are these skills get skill sets being you know being hunted or being looked for you know like for example you are good in drawing for example you can do a quick check on link in or even any job border where the drawing is a skill set that people are hunting for right and if you if you have this kind of perspective of listing your whatever skill you have and then you compare with the job market then you realize maybe the job market is not really accommodating your skill set it means like maybe drawing at this time is not really something in that the job market would be wanting to take and you know then it means you might want to really look at your skill set go for reskilling go for upskilling courses training that is offered by a lot of people now and most of it are free and then you can even take courses online that can improve your skill set maybe now people are not looking for drawing but they want people who can use Adobe Illustrator for example then you go into Adobe Illustrator skill improve yourself in that area and then start hunting for that path if that is your passion right you can't be keep on hoping that the market will fit into your skill set that's quite ridiculous in these days in a way lah because the market would not change their demand based on you you have to adapt to the market demand that is what a lot of people don't understand like in my case even though I'm lecturing if I'm comfortable with what I'm doing now just lecturing in universities that I don't have to be bothered about what's happening around me actually in a way I just have to be bothered about how I can improve the syllabus the curriculum and all that but if I'm out there then I have to learn a lot you know I have to learn how to do marketing I have to learn how to do copyrighting these you know a lot of things and I have learned a lot and pick up the skills every you know every year I have more skill set added to my you know my list right so this is something that I think a lot of fresh graduate should should really really consider you cannot just hold on to the skill set that you believe you know will be you will be with you forever that it just doesn't work now you know but in certain field I know like maybe you have you know you are trained to be a civil engineer and all that you can't be suddenly jumping into a different field like a total if your passion is to be a civil engineer that will requires a different strategy in terms of looking for potential placement or potential you know potential employment but one way is you must have that goal right and that goal may not be a long term you don't have to be bothered about where do you see yourself in five years get kind of question it's like where do you see yourself now all right where do you see yourself yet tomorrow and then next month and all that be set for for fresh graduate you need to set the slightly shorter you know kind of goal first and once you get the first job maybe you can think about what happens in the next five years and all that unless of course you are hoping to build a career out of it that will be a different case but I think looking at the current condition with a lot of unemployment you just have to be setting a goal like now I need to hunt you know or I okay I search ruling in I am lacking in this skills right I need to spend like three months for this first then after three months I'm gonna hunt for this job for example I have a target I want to be in this company or I want to be in this area another one is go into you know all this we call it geek economy fancy word for freelancing kind of thing you know just go into it because there are so many platform now if you go and google up freelancing there's so many platform sell your skill set get paid to learn in a way people pay you to to do some freelance job with it whether you know whether it's a short term contract or maybe one off thing just do it because from there you know how to deal with clients you know how to deal with yourself you know how confident are you with dealing with all this demand by your client things like that even if you're not happy with the client you know you just had learned because these are the process learning if you just sit still and then waiting for job to come then you know it's gonna take some time right and of course the one that a lot of people will tell you is to create connection right you have to connect with people like what you're doing now inter-guards and all that it provides you opportunity to get to know a lot of people right get to know a lot of you know you build relationship with people and then people might offer you a job without you knowing in a way you know like i was telling my my students even if you're doing things sometimes for free or or you're helping out for you know volunteering at first because you're so good at it people might offer you a job without you knowing so bottom line go out there you know get get into some mode of doing something rather than you know sitting at home and waiting for the job to come just get get out you know even even if you have graduated you can always apply for internship again go for for a short internship just to get the hang of what you really really want and then slowly build but i think gig economy like freelancing is one way to train yourself to be to be more equipped equipped with the job market yeah okay so um and uh and uh yeah it really does and and i myself like in a way to those who have just did in is a fresh graduate and like for me you know i've been active in volunteering and it's something that i can really resonate with Mr. Chua and i believe like you know as students nowadays like because we are graduating or we are currently learning and studying in a very you know like unprecedented time you know nothing like this has ever ever and since like i think the early 1900s where we have like all the sort of black fever all these things so back then it's understandable you know like when you don't get a job because it's no such thing as linked in all these things for you to refer to but nowadays you know like you can always connect and recently we have like clubhouse like making connection is as easy as learning an app yeah so so it's crazy you know like how we like how the whole scene has changed as opposed to like in fact 20 years ago when people were still searching for jobs in newspapers right yes yes yes and then um like can i can i please share because Mr Chua has been doing like some sharing on his uh website and maybe like to those who would like to connect with him like is it okay if i share your um sure your work plan okay so i'm just going to pop it up real quick so to those who are interested to know more about like what Mr Chua is doing currently or even like to see what are the resources because he's been sharing a lot and i believe that's this board that you are sharing like video to and all this so maybe you can talk a bit about your website a bit oh yeah that that is my kind of like uh e portfolio or e portfolio you know like portfolio of things that i've do you know so if you go to that link you get you get access to my list of e-learning tools as well as link to my youtube channel and some articles that i've written and and all that but uh because i'm in e-learning so most of the things that i share about e-learning and education technology but occasionally i do share about uh you know employment and all that career tips and all that i'm not really expert like you know all those expert that you found you can find in in in link in but i do share like you know if you go to if you just google out like my name and resume template i think that that garnered about you know quite hundred thousand views for for the the resume tips and all that and even interview tips things like that so i i occasionally share this kind of thing but if you if you need more help i think you can always find more expert in link in there's so many people giving free tops now uh this is a good thing about covid actually because previously you you can't even i don't think you can afford to pay them right these people they are quite expensive but uh now because a pandemic they are offering it for free through link in and then jump in listen see what they are having what they have to say that's why i kept telling my my even my fresh graduate or even students i kept telling them this is the time for you to really learn a lot of things don't don't just sit still waiting at home watching k-drama or Netflix alone i look at a bit of time like one hour just go jump into link in or even youtube go for people like Gary V you know these people they will give you a lot of tips about career and then learn you know what are the trends in in the job market now you can't be holding your mind like i just graduated i have a degree and i want my i want my you know my bosses or my employer to find me it doesn't it doesn't doesn't work that way now you know last time maybe because not many people like in the job market but now i think you can't you know you just have to stand out that's the that's the point you know being stand out like this is why i think a lot of people like jumping into tiktok you know youtube and all that because it makes you stand out and you know you got hired by putting things on tiktok more than you send in resume maybe you can send like hundreds of resume you never get hired but suddenly you make a tiktok people hire you you know because of that you know things like that so just keep your positive mind you know just put yourself up sell your skill sets and you never know right and and since we're at this topic like maybe could you share like some of the most encouraging things that you have seen you know aside from all this like expert sharing you know there might be more than that now so maybe like from what you've seen so far like what are the other things that has been encouraging what i noticed is the openness openness in terms of accepting more creative ideas due to the new normal lah especially you know from from content creation to even marketing strategies you can see you know all this openness in terms of more businesses trying out new strategies or marketing the products or even fresh graduate selling skill set like i told you last time you depend only on your resume or even portfolio and all that now you have more more things to to use right and in a way that pandemic has that made more you know the acceptance of creativity slightly widen in a way maybe traditionally pre-covid people are still hold on to that typical strategies of doing things but because of covid like now what you're doing you know doing exploring stream yard on how to how to stream this online things like that so yeah i mean that's that's one thing which is quite positive about covid in terms of the openness to accept new ideas but also i think the effort by fresh graduates i can see more and more are trying out they they are not like like my time we really have to just you know circle through and like browse through the newspaper or even browse through jobsfree.com and all this all these portals to find job but now i think you have more channels you don't you don't maybe you can find job even on twitter or even on facebook these days right you just just so happened you you saw some some people twitter something and then you you share your knowledge at skill set and people you know are interested to know you more things have changed a lot and yeah and and you get access to not only the experts but also tools more tools helping you to do resume to to cope with job interview like i like i told my students if you tell me now that you have no idea how to face an interview means you're not you're not digging youtube you're not digging tiktok and all that because this this platform they give you so many tips on how to cope with job interview right and and they even give you access to personal coaching for free right yeah so i think it's quite interesting to see how things have changed for just in a short time of one year due to this covid-19 agree agree and and i think it's something that we talked about before you know like covid-19 is definitely the chief technical officer of the world it's no beating without us realising yeah yeah a lot of companies institution like even unis this spending more time thinking about their technology whether they need to upgrade or not because of this covid-19 prior to that maybe they can say oh we can hold on for another five years and now they can no no no no we need to upgrade now you know think like that yeah if you agree and and since we're at this topic right now you know about change you know like maybe if there's people who'd like to know more about like who'd like to change you know who have questions about like how what should i do to change you know just ask questions on the comment section appropriate questions of course it can be relevant it can be not relevant it's okay so feel free tanya jat apa-apa soalan kami akan jawab we do have a couple of questions down there in the comment section i think my colleague is going to push it up real quick but before we jump to the Q&A session i would like to share again about our upcoming youth founder mentoring program which is going to be open real soon i mean it is open but it's going to be we see the launch really soon so it's open to all srawakian students be inside or outside of sarawak again in institute of higher learning fresh graduates and early stage startups with at least one srawakian co-founder so i believe like it's for those who are in between 35 and 817 so to apply visit the link that i'm showing down below like it's bit.ly slash yfmp 2021 application closes on the 21st of march so again terima kasih banyak Mr. Chua untuk jawab sohanya jadi sekarang adalah masa untuk kita bawa sohanya dari pula saya percaya seperti ada banyak sohanya sohanya terutama siapa yang sangat suka untuk tahu lebih tentang sohanya jadi saya percaya seseorang mereka seorang student saya rasa jadi sohanya yang pertama daripada jasmine dan sohanya sohanya Mr. Chua berapa awak rasa sohanya sohanya sohanya sohanya sohanya sohanya sohanya sohanya dan teknologi seseorang seseorang di Malaysia dan di Asia Seluruh Wow, itu itu adalah sohanya untuk saya tetapi jika awak jika awak tanya pendapat saya saya rasa sekeliling region Seluruh Asia Seluruh anda dapat lihat Indonesia jauh sangat cepat di sekeliling ini saya ada banyak teman yang masuk ke mulut dan anda dapat lihat bagaimana mereka mereka berkata tentang ekosistem di Malaysia sementara kita saya rasa kita masih sedikit ke belakang mungkin segera ke belakang saya tidak pasti tetapi sekurang-kurangnya tetapi ke belakang dalam termasuk startup startup inisiatif kita mempunyai banyak idea dan tidak banyak idea tetapi tiba-tiba keadaan sedikit kecil dalam mempunyai atau menjadi katalyst untuk mempunyai semua orang ini tetapi saya rasa cepat kita akan kita akan lebih baik kerana anda tahu perkara yang telah dibuat terutama terutama terutama digital saya blueprint jika anda menjelaskan tentu-tentu mungkin beberapa orang akan kata ia adalah yang sama yang sama yang sama blueprint tetapi untuk saya kurang-kurangnya ia menunjukkan bahawa kita memuangkan lebih banyak peraturan untuk menerima masalah dan keadaan oleh startup ekosistem dan bahkan yang menerima startup di Malaysia tetapi kita tidak dapat menjadi keadaan sebenarnya anda tahu anda melihat Vietnam anda melihat anda melihat Indonesia anda melihat anda melihat saya tidak mengatakan Singapura tetapi hanya melihat Indonesia dan Vietnam kemudian anda akan melihat bagaimana mereka berubah kita masih menerima anda tahu seperti infrastruktur untuk contoh jika anda ingin melakukan sesuatu anda melihat internet kebunuhan walaupun anda memuangkan setiap peraturan dan sebagainya tetapi anda tidak pernah menerima peraturan peraturan itu untuk contoh ini adalah masalah yang saya rasa ia adalah masalah-small masalah tetapi itu perlu diletakkan jika anda tidak boleh diletakkan semua masalah-small masalah kemudah anda tidak boleh pergi untuk yang lebih besar anda tahu dalam perjalan dengan lebih besar iya baiklah jadi saya harap jawapan hanya bermakna pertanyaan jadi mari kita lihat pertanyaan yang berikutnya jadi ini daripada Colen Esterali saya adalah seorang pelajar tetapi saya mencari untuk mencari pekerjaan sekarang dan saya tidak mempunyai kapital untuk memulai perniagaan apa yang anda cadangkan untuk orang seperti saya untuk melakukan pada masa depan iya seperti yang saya katakan tadi setidaknya kemungkinan anda berkata apa yang anda sangat baik berkata walaupun apa yang anda ada anda tahu anda dapat mempada ada sebuah kemungkinan A tetapi jika anda berkata B tidak, tidak penting dan jemput ke semua network ini anda tahu seperti tegas apa-apa yang tegas anda lakukan pergi ke platform yang memasuk diri anda dalam sebuah environment di mana anda bersama orang yang memperkalkan anda anda tidak anda tidak pergi dan menunjukkan grup yang tidak berkembang dengan apa yang anda inginkan untuk membuat ia membuat ia membuat anda memperkalkan dengan banyak kemungkinan dan semua kemungkinan atau kemungkinan negatif pergi bersama dengan orang yang sangat berterusaha tentang apa yang anda lakukan anda dapat lebih banyak idea anda menjadi lebih positif tentang apa yang anda lakukan dengan dengan perjalanan anda atau perjalanan kerja tetapi saya menurut anda jika anda baik dalam sesuatu anda tahu kemungkinan anda anda mungkin mahu membuat kemungkinan juga mendapat sepanjang kemungkinan ada banyak platform sekarang seperti Fiverr anda dengar F-I-E F-I-V-E-R-R Fiverr iya iya ia quite quite a lot of jika anda lihat jika anda pergi di sana ada banyak indonesia membuat semua kemungkinan dan masyak jadi anda mungkin mahu membuat kemungkinan anda anda boleh buat apa-apa sebenarnya untuk masa yang juga menjadi kemungkinan anda mungkin masih anda tahu mencukupi dengan ideasi atau apa yang anda mahu lakukan jadi cuba perkara yang berlaku akan membantu anda tahu dalam kes saya untuk contoh apabila saya apabila saya bermula walaupun kemungkinan saya adalah kemungkinan saya sepatutnya menjadi pelajar tetapi saya menjualkan kemungkinan dulu anda tahu saya bekerja sekejap sekejap sebagai pelajar dan editor jadi saya belajar bagi bagi perjalanan yang berbeza dan sebagainya saya berjumpa sampai 4.00 am 6.00 am hanya untuk menutupi perjalanan dan sebagainya tetapi jika anda hanya tetap di rumah anda tahu anda berbunuh dengan banyak perkara dengan banyak negatif anda perlu keluar saya bermakna sekarang adalah MCO anda tidak boleh berjalan seperti anda pergi keluar tetapi apa yang saya bermakna adalah anda perlu mencukupi lebih banyak masa mencukupi untuk seorang orang mencukupi untuk menjadi kemungkinan anda jika anda mahu melakukan pergi dan berjumpah seperti seperti seperti yang anda 5 orang yang anda berjumpa dengan betul? mereka mereka kata-kata apabila anda berjumpa dengan 5 orang yang berjumpa dengan anda anda adalah kebiasaan dengan 5 orang jadi jika anda berjumpa dengan mereka yang tidak benar-benar membuat apa-apa anda mungkin berjumpa tidak membuat apa-apa juga jadi jika anda mahu memperkenalkan diri memperkenalkan dengan orang yang boleh memperkenalkan anda dan seperti yang saya beritahu anda saya menunjukkan banyak komentar negatif di app Clubhouse juga banyak orang tidak faham bahawa itu masih sepat yang baik ia tidak tidak eksklusif untuk iphone sebenarnya mereka hanya mencoba di iphone nanti atau nanti mereka akan membuka untuk android dan sebagainya jadi itu untuk saya beritahu sebab mereka memperkenalkan sebuah perkara anda dapat berjumpa dengan banyak profesional saya tahu anda dapat bercakap dengan banyak orang yang berjumpa dengan saya jadi berjumpa dan bercakap dengan orang jika anda jika anda mahu bercakap anda boleh dengar saya selama dua minggu saya belajar banyak dari app itu kerana tidak ada perkara yang saya tidak tahu dan apabila saya masuk ke EduTech Asia itu club chat ruang wow saya saya berjaya seperti seperti saya beritahu anda saya bermakna saya saya berjaya apa yang berlaku di Indonesia walaupun orang berkata Indonesia tidak berjumpa dengan baik dengan Covid-19 tetapi ada banyak ideasi datang daripada perkara seperti itu jadi anda berjumpa dengan seperti orang lain dapat berjumpa dengan itu tetapi secara penting anda perlu tahu apa yang anda sedapkan anda tahu jika anda tetap berjumpa dengan itu lagi semua orang ini anda berjumpa dengan akan beritahu anda oh man anda berjumpa dengan ini ambil itu okey saya baik dengan ini jika anda baik dengan makanan kemudian itu adalah kes yang berbeza tetapi tapi mungkin jika anda baik dengan makanan anda boleh mulakan channel tentang anda tahu saya nampak beberapa pelajar saya mulakan channel untuk makan anda tahu makan hanya makan dan kemudian mereka mulakan untuk membangkinkan kemungkinan untuk membuat konten dan sebagainya betul betul betul betul betul saya rasa itu betul betul jawab yang baik itu adalah alabak yang lain apa yang yang kita bercakapkan betul betul dan saya percaya seperti sekarang seperti keadaan adalah lima kerana banyak orang sekarang melakukan perkara yang kita tak tahu boleh sebenarnya berikan duit anda tahu S.M.R. lah seperti di tik tok lah hanya seperti melakukan anda tahu seperti hanya berada di skrin juga dapat menerima anda seperti revenue tik tok saya rasa anda menggunakan sebahagian daripada berdancing anda tahu hanya meluncurkan suara anda ia okey tetapi tetapi anda mempunyai masa untuk membuat konten yang yang menghargai pelajaran anda tahu anda tahu seperti saya melihat beberapa yang sangat baik dalam pelajaran foto mereka hanya melakukan tutorial untuk pelajaran pelajaran foto di tik tok dan kemudian anda tahu orang mungkin melihat ia dan kemudian mula melihat anda dan semua ini media mungkin hanya mengambil anda anda tahu dan menjadi pelajaran grafik mereka untuk semua anda tahu anda mungkin pelajaran civil tetapi anda akhirnya mempunyai kerja sebagai pelajaran grafik pertama anda tahu itu adalah setidaknya anda tahu betul betul betul jadi mari kita jawab beberapa pertanya kita ada seperti beberapa lagi saya rasa untuk Nofahada mari kita mengambil pertanyaan selepas ini tapi Jadira mari kita mari kita link berdua berdua jadi Nofahada sebenarnya meminta tentang seperti apa yang pertama untuk saya menjadi pelajaran grafik saya percaya seperti itu adalah seperti pertanyaan jeneri seperti seperti ada banyak pertanyaan yang pertama di sana tetapi mari kita melihat dalam pertanyaan yang kedua ianya mungkin untuk membuat pelajaran grafik ketika menjadi pelajaran grafik anda tahu apa pendapat anda yang anda menjelaskan tentang ini jadi saya rasa seperti ini mengambilang kepada itu pertanyaan anda dapat sejauh sejauh anda tahu bagaimana untuk berbual lagi yang saya menyebut hanya bagaimana anda boleh berjaya bagaimana anda boleh anda tahu bagaimana anda boleh berjaya dan sebagainya jika anda tahu bagaimana untuk menjadi pelajaran grafik menjadi kekensi saya rasa anda boleh sebenarnya ketika saya bersetujung ketika saya bersetujung saya melakukan banyak kerja perlengkapan saya melakukan perlengkapan saya bantu orang menulis artik sehingga seperti itu jadi ini juga adalah sebab tidak sehingga anda bercakap tentang melihat perkara seperti melihat produk dan sebagainya seperti saya rasa banyak banyak pelajaran sepanjang hari ini juga melakukan perjalanan anda tahu bisnes anda tahu atau bahkan seorang pelajaran sebuah produk tidak mempunyai sejauh sejauh sejauh anda boleh melakukan berkumpul dengan berdua dan kemudian anda tidak mula melayani saya berkata anda tidak melayani perjalanan untuk tidak untuk tidak dapat melayani dengan perjalanan anda tidak melayani perjalanan untuk tidak dapat melayani perjalanan anda tidak melakukan itu kerana tidak sepatutnya akan membantu anda untuk mendengar lagi jika anda tahu yang sedikit perlengkapan Jangan menghubungi dan biarkan pergi ke tempatnya. Kadang-kadang jika anda mempunyai banyak permintaan, anda mungkin mahu beritahu orang, ok, saya tidak dapat membuangkan pembentangan sekarang. Jadi saya perlu menghubungi pembentangan saya. Hal seperti itu. Jadi anda hanya perlu belajar. Tak mengapa, saya rasa ia adalah cara yang baik. Sebenarnya, saya tidak akan berkata, ia adalah cara untuk pergi, tetapi saya berharap anda akan belajar bagaimana untuk menghubungi masa anda. Sebelum anda berfikir tentang balasim. Tetapi saya rasa ia adalah keadaan yang baik. Orang akan berkata, apa yang berlainan sekarang? Hal yang berlainan, kan? Baiklah, saya rasa ia adalah sesuatu yang penting untuk pertanyaan ini juga. Pertanyaan yang Ravan minta. Seperti orang ini tidak mempunyai pengalaman di sebuah perniagaan. Dia minta, bagaimana dia patut melihat? Sebab anda patut menghubungi permintaan. Anda patut menghubungi permintaan. Itu adalah cara yang baik untuk menghubungi. Tetapi mulai melakukan beberapa perniagaan. Perniagaan sebenarnya tidak seperti perniagaan-perniagaan, tetapi mulai membaca pada melakukan perkara. Tetapi tidak melalui perniagaan yang mencari cepat. Saya rasa banyak orang yuk ini, mereka berhati-hati dengan mencari cepat. Mereka melalui perniagaan. Saya tahu banyak yuk berakhir dalam perniagaan kerana beberapa orang terdengar untuk kripto, kriptokaransi, berlaku-laku-laku, dan semua orang berjalan ke pembangunan dan semua orang berlaku-laku. Kerana anda masih tidak dapat berhubungi dengan itu. Tetapi saya menurut saya jika anda tidak ada pengalaman, perkara pertama adalah untuk mengalami pengalaman. Jadi anda tidak dapat berkata, saya tidak ada pengalaman pada masa. Anda harus mencari pengalaman dengan mencari cepat. Kemudian, menghubungi program, menghubungi aktiviti yang berlaku-laku. Kemudian, anda perlu menghubungi sesuatu. Seperti yang saya katakan, menghubungi pengalaman. Kenapa saya terus menghubungi ekonomi atau pengalaman? Kerana ia adalah perkara yang berlaku-laku. Anda tidak menghubungi apa-apa saja. Anda hanya menghubungi peluang. Anda tidak perlu menghubungi kebanyakan. Mungkin anda perlu menghubungi sedikit duit untuk menghubungi sesuatu. Tetapi ia sangat kecil dan sangat berlaku-laku. Kira-kira, semasa saya belajar terakhir, saya melakukan website. Saya dapat belajar perkara yang berlaku-laku di YouTube. Saya dapat belajar bagaimana untuk membuat website dan berlaku-laku. Saya dapat menghubungi perniagaan. Mungkin pada masa itu, sehingga sekitar 800-1k. Anda tidak perlu menghubungi apa-apa saja. Biasanya, anda dapat sekitar 800-1k. Kemudian, anda dapat belajar bagaimana untuk menghubungi peluang. Sebenarnya, itu adalah perkara yang paling penting. Kerana ketika kita tidak bermula, kita tidak tahu bagaimana untuk menghubungi mereka. Kemudian, sekarang, banyak masalah tentang kemungkinan berlaku-laku. Kerana anda tidak ada pengalaman menghubungi peluang dan menghubungi peluang. Jadi, anda tidak tahu bagaimana untuk berbincang dengan orang-orang. Tapi apabila anda berada di dalam hal itu, beri diri anda seperti yang saya beritahu anda tadi. Kerana kedua, kerja ketiga, ambil bahagian itu, ambil bahagian itu, untuk membuatnya. Kemudian anda akan dapat mengalami hal itu. Kemudian anda akan tahu sama ada anda sepatutnya berada di perniagaan atau tidak. Baiklah. Baiklah. Saya harap anda akan menjawab pertanyaan anda, Ravan. Dan mari kita menjawab pertanyaan bersama-sama. Sejak kami mempunyai banyak pertanyaan. Jadi, saya rasa ini mempunyai pertanyaan kepada orang lain. Pertama, ia dari Angelina. Pertanyaannya adalah, apa yang dia mempunyai sekarang dalam pertanyaan yang tinggi? Dan kita mempunyai pertanyaan yang lain daripada Desmin. Dan pertanyaannya, saya rasa ini sangat menarik. Baiklah. Ya. Selamat tinggal kepada itu. Pertanyaannya adalah, jika anda akan menjadi penyelamat, mana sektor yang anda akan menjelaskan? Jadi, ia sesuatu yang mempunyai. Jika anda akan menjelaskan penyelamat yang tinggi dalam pertanyaan yang tinggi? Atau bagaimana sektor yang anda akan menjadi penyelamat? Sebenarnya, saya sudah memperkenalkan beberapa pertanyaan. Dan saya sendiri mempunyai seorang yang lebih fokus pada penyelamat sosial. Dan seperti yang anda katakan, semua perkara laptop ini dan sebagainya, ia adalah sebahagian dari penyelamat sosial. Tapi saya tidak benar-benar saya tidak benar-benar seorang yang berusia kerana saya mempunyai penyelamat saya dengan kerja saya sebagai penyelamat dan sebagainya. Tetapi penyelamat sosial terbiasa untuk menghasilkan cukup untuk kembali. Jadi, banyak perkara yang berlainan dengan apa yang saya lakukan, yang berlainan dan teknologi pendidikan dan sebagainya. Jadi, anda tahu, membuat banyak projek, anda tahu, penyelamat dan sebagainya, bagi contoh, tetapi hanya untuk mengambil cukup untuk kembali. Jadi, saya tidak benar-benar menjadi penyelamat. Tapi jika saya menjadi seperti penyelamat, anda tahu, saya masih akan menjadi penyelamat. Sebenarnya, saya mungkin mempunyai penyelamat untuk memulangkan cara saya sendiri atau memulangkan sekolah. Jadi, saya tidak tahu apakah saya akan mengecewakan itu, tetapi saya harap sebuah hari sebelum saya mati, atau sehingga saya dapat melakukannya. Seperti, ia bukan sekolah, tetapi, ia sebuah konsep sekolah, tetapi, ia adalah sesuatu yang saya mempunyai. Tetapi, sebuah cara yang berlainan atau memulangkan cara penyelamat yang harus berlainan. Tidah, saya memulangkan idea saya. Tetapi, saya tidak dapat melakukannya sekarang. Baiklah. Kemudian, sebuah pertanyaan sekarang, yang lain adalah, apa yang akan berlainan dalam kejadian yang tinggi sekarang? Oh, ini saya tidak tahu bagaimana menjawab ini. Anda bercakap tentang jika di Malaysia, saya... kejadian yang tinggi sekarang, saya rasa apa-apa yang perlu dibuat dengan... mungkin kejadian data, saya rasa cukup kejadian yang tinggi. Kerana, kami tidak mempunyai talent sebenarnya di sebuah kawasan ini. Jika anda menemukan kejadian, apabila anda mencari pelajaran data dan sebagainya, atau bahkan orang yang melakukan analitik yang cukup kejadian, bahkan AI, tentu saja. Tetapi, kami masih... seperti saya katakan, kejadian yang tinggi, tetapi, ia adalah hal yang perlu dibuat. AI, pelajaran data dan sebagainya. Tetapi, pada masa yang sama, saya rasa jika anda mencari kejadian di Malaysia, kejadian sosial berlainan dalam kejadian yang tinggi, tetapi, apa yang saya nampak, banyak model kejadian sosial yang berlainan di Malaysia masih sangat... lebih seperti ngo, lebih daripada kejadian sosial. Kerana, jika anda mencari kejadian sosial, prinsipa, anda perlu benar-benar belajar bagaimanapun untuk beri kembali 51% dari apa-apa pun yang anda menerima. Pertunjukan untuk komuniti atau untuk orang yang anda menghargai. Bukan seperti memberi kejadian sebagai... memberi kejadian mereka saja, tetapi anda memberi kejadian kembali untuk membuat mereka lebih berbeza dengan kejadian yang berlainan dan sebagainya. Banyak kejadian sosial yang berlainan di Malaysia sekarang. Tetapi, saya melihat beberapa kejadian sosial yang masih berlainan di kejadian yang tidak sangat berlainan. Kerana kejadian itu akan berlainan lebih cepat atau lebih lewat, tetapi anda perlu mencari cara yang berlainan untuk membuat kejadian yang berlainan pada masa yang sama untuk dapat beri kembali ke komuniti. Jadi, ya, saya rasa itu akan berlainan di kejadian yang berlainan dalam cara... banyak orang berlainan untuknya, tetapi jika anda bercakap tentang menerima kejadian besar, yaitu itu, saya tidak dapat menjawab itu kerana, yaitu, itu betul-betul berlainan dengan banyak kejadian yang berlainan. Okey, jadi, semoga itu menjawab Anjelina soalan. Jadi, kita akan menerima satu soalan lagi. Jadi, dari kejadian, kita ada banyak soalan, tetapi, satu soalan tidak cukup. Ia perlu menjadi banyak soalan kerana, saya faham, kerana, banyak soalan, 10 soalan yang kita ada hari ini, penyebabkan sekarang, seperti, mereka tahu bahawa anda seorang penduduk, jadi, itu sebabnya, okey, seperti, mari kita tanya soalan. Okey, jadi, saya akan tanya soalan untuk malam ini, dari Yasmin juga. Jadi, telah anda dengar tentang Starlink, ia adalah sebuah company Elon Musk, jika dia tidak terdapat, dan mereka memuji saya untuk menghubungkannya, apa pendapat anda pada itu? Dan anda fikir ia akan berlainan? Well, jika anda bercakap dengan Elon, apa-apa pun boleh, apa-apa pun boleh untuk dia. Dan, satu perkara yang saya ingin beritahu tentang Elon Musk, dalam cara, banyak orang tidak faham, jika anda dengar dia bercakap, dia, dia menerima banyak, dalam, dalam, anda tahu, dalam proses lapuan, dalam sebut sesuatu, tapi betulannya ia seorang pendek, yang secara menagakannya. Jadi, apa yang saya beritahu anda adalah, enggaklah jika anda menjelaskan jakma, anda tahu, ketika dia mencuba mengejakan kemampuan, bahawa hantar ini tidak perfect, bahawa hantar ini adalah seperti, sangat, sangat Cola, anda tahu, seperti sebuah pengajaran, tapi, anda melihat kelihatan mereka, kemampuan mereka untuk, untuk menjelaskan kealaman mereka, untuk, untuk menjadi, untuk menjadi senyap yg, melakukan perkara yang tak berkembang, mengambil kemahiran dan sebagainya. Saya rasa bukan semua orang boleh melakukan kemahiran itu. Bukan semua orang. Bukan saya. Jika anda tanya saya, saya takkan dapat mengambil kemahiran itu untuk mengambil banyak kemahiran. Jika saya ada duit, tetapi tentu saja saya tak ada. Tetapi jika anda tanya saya apakah ia akan menjadi kemahiran, ya, anda tak pernah tahu. Banyak perkara, orang berkata bahawa dia tak boleh melakukannya, kemudian kemudian dia melakukannya, seperti Space X adalah satu contoh, orang-orang bercakap tentang perkara yang tak berkembang, tetapi kemudian dia berkata bahawa ia berkembang, perkara yang tak berkembang, tetapi, betapa sejauh-jauh, saya tak pasti, betapa. Bagus untuk mengambil kemahiran dan kemahiran. Dia adalah pengguna atau semua perkara ini, seperti semua orang yang mendengar kepadanya. Setidaknya, segalanya terasa oleh kemahiran dia. Seperti apabila dia mempunyai sesuatu, dan kemudian dia akan menyebabkan kemahiran yang lain. Dan dia juga adalah di belakang Clubhouse, saya rasa anda tahu, kemahiran di belakang Clubhouse, dia sendiri. Ya, jadi banyak, banyak kemahiran sekarang. Saya tahu dia masuk ke OpenAI dan sebagainya. Jadi ya, ada satu contoh untuk mencari. Tetapi saya ada satu kata-kata dari Yiling, seperti, periuk periuk website sekarang, mereka membeli-belakang, kerana mereka tak perlukan periuk website sekarang. Sebelum itu, mereka perlukan. Sekarang saya rasa, jika anda katakan periuk website, anda tak boleh berkata-kata, itu apa yang saya bermaksud dengan mempunyai kemahiran kepadanya. Baiklah, jika anda tahu bahawa mereka membeli-belakang 300, di periuk periuk, bermaksudnya, periuk periuk website sendiri, tak cukup sekarang. Jadi anda perlu membeli-belakang periuk lain, seperti, orang sekarang, saya rasa, mencari periuk periuk intelligent untuk periuk periuk website. Jika anda tahu bagaimana untuk membeli-belakang, mereka membeli-belakang kepadanya. Seperti semua ini, jika anda melihat periuk periuk periuk, mereka akan dapat membeli-belakang, periuk periuk dan periuk. Jika tidak, periuk periuk periuk biasa, periuk periuk yang biasa, di mana, anda tahu, orang-orang boleh melakukan, atau membeli-belakang, dan tentu saja, mereka tidak akan membeli-belakang, kerana semua orang boleh melakukan, daripada perspektif mereka. Tapi jika anda, jika anda dapat melakukan sesuatu, yang lebih daripada itu, anda boleh membeli-belakang, seperti yang anda inginkan. Jadi lagi, perkara saya adalah, anda tidak boleh menjadi statik, atau apa yang anda telah belajar, dalam hidup universiti, atau apa-apa pun yang anda katakan, anda perlu selalu melihat, bahawa sebagai pendidikan, orang-orang tetap meminta saya, banyak orang telah meminta saya, bagaimana anda tahu semua ini, banyak-banyak perkara, kerana saya beritahu mereka, saya perlu membeli-belakang, saya tidak boleh menjadi seorang lelaki, beritahu diri saya, untuk menjadi pendidikan, tetapi saya tetap bercakap tentang, Microsoft Front Page, atau semua perkara yang terlalu-lalu, atau bahawa pengalaman yang terlalu-lalu, seperti C++, dengan yang orang berharga lebih lama menggunakan, atau bahawa aplikasi, saya perlu beritahu mereka, saya tidak boleh baik-baiknya, tetapi saya tahu, tetapi perkara yang saya berminatkan, saya akan membeli-belakang, dan saya belajar, seperti sekarang, saya menjadi, saya belajar, saya belajar lebih banyak tentang, data science, dan artifus intelligence, kerana, walaupun ia bukan perkara saya, saya berminat dalam belajar bagaimana, belajar mesin dan sebagainya, ia adalah perkara yang kita perlu tahu. Jadi, lagi, ia mengambil lebih banyak perjalanan sekarang, untuk, untuk benar-benar berada di perjalanan pekerja, tetapi, perjalanan bawah ini, anda tidak boleh berkembang, dengan apa-apa pun, anda, anda perlu, dapat diri sendiri di sana, belajar perkara yang terlalu-lalu di dunia, dan kemudian, kembali, menerima, okey, saya perlu melakukan ini, perkara seperti itu, okey? Baiklah, jadi, ya, seperti, saya harap itu juga menjawab kekerjaan Jin Ling, seperti jika dia sekarang berlebihan ke tepuk, dan di dalam cara, seperti, mulut yang baik untuk di masak, seperti, yg, itulah alasan yang baik. seperti, seperti, bahkan ketiga puluh, jika anda melakukannya 10, anda dapet 3k, itu compilnya. Saya akan belajar bagaimana, mencari pengetahuan yang baik. Yaitu, yang Ilema berkata sama. Jika orang melakukannya, 10, 10 box, anda tahu, jika anda melakukannya 1,000 kali, anda dapat 1,000, maaf, 10,000, ee, So it means you don't look at the amount per se but if you know that you are being underpaid then don't accept the job If you know you are underpaid then don't accept that job Okay So that's an additional one for Yin Ling and somewhere lah at the end of the day it's just about starting and then like just okay let me see the job market first you know like screw it start it and then like screw again and then like start all over again how about exploring like as and even currently as an educator yourself you are also like learning new things you're picking up new skills us as the younger generation and as students as well there's no time for us to not do anything especially times like this when law forces are out so like before we end today's session like any final advice to our audience out there go out and do it because if you keep keep thinking about it overthinking doesn't really help just go out and really try yourself to venture into something if you are really good in doing something just try it out even selling products some people say why do a lot of people go into sales selling insurance selling kueh at least that is the start because you get to know something but if after you have tried you can switch bottom line is you have to try first because if you don't try then you will never you will never work because the world is like you said things can change rapidly you never know what's going to work so the only thing you can do is look through search through and deal with it and try to cope with the current needs and you will see yourself stand out a lot and you cannot be static you who just graduated you need to think of yourself now I am employee number one not a fresh graduate anymore so how am I going to convince my employer that I am the one that they need so don't keep on harping on this fresh graduate fresh you are no longer fresh by the time you reach like one week you are no longer fresh fresh means you are like fresh one week is no longer fresh so throw out that word fresh like I told my student always be plus one plus one this year or this month I plus one oh I managed to learn this plus one I managed to learn that plus one so in the end of the day even if you don't get the job that you wanted you go to a smaller company you get to show off the skill I mean show off as in shine and then they would recommend you for another job so I think keep that mindset of keep trying the reward will come sooner or later the consistency has to be there yeah that's my word okay awesome and just to summarize the whole thing just do it and keep on trying and just do it it's just that whole circle that you keep on doing over and over again how comfortable are you with that Riz la because a lot of people they don't want to try because they don't dare to face that Riz so I have to really if you're really really having that fear even I have that fear as well talk to people talk to the relevant people in your field that you really want to or maybe the role model that you look up to talk to them you get more ideas more motivation to move forward or else you will be constantly in that fear of not trying alright awesome thank you so much Mr Chua and honestly everyone enjoyed myself I think I'm expired already so tomorrow I have a startup from Hamza so yeah just do it and thank you so much for sharing with us you all might want to join the startup grind sarawak chapter as well we Malcolm and I were doing a lot of we're going to plan a few events coming soon with a lot of talk with budding startup entrepreneur so you get to hear from them how they start from zero so do follow us just google up startup grind Malaysia we are also part of the startup grind Malaysia but we are based in Kuching of course so just join us for our upcoming talk with all these people and even if you need advice we have list of mentors for you to refer to apart from joining of course the gas initiative and all the programs run by the gas which is also very very very useful so please join so i believe like startup grind sarawak there's a facebook page as well but now we kind of migrated to startup grind Malaysia because we are like taking over the Malaysia chapter suddenly here but we have two la in a way parallel okay so maybe like my Khalid will share it in the comment section later and people can just go and you know like there's going to be like sharing events happening so maybe eventually they might have like a clubhouse program there are many yeah if you go to clubhouse if you have join clubhouse just search for startup there's so many chatroom being put up listen to them i normally just drop in and listen you'll be amazed with the ideas that you get and you know what are the skillset that are on demand now so as i said Mr Chua is a definite like advocate for startup so like he's grinding like startup world right now so if you're interested maybe if you want to know more or you want to engage even further i believe like there's like a startup grind punya talk sessions and there's also like engagement sessions that i think usually like it was run physically by them because it used to be very active joining all these things so i do keep out yep my colleague has shared it on the link there so you can just join there i believe like startup grind Malaysia as well on facebook okay awesome so i believe like that's all the time that we have to for today's episode because i'd love to know more i'd love to share more and also love to talk more with Mr Chua but of course to prepare like it's night and Mr Chua is a family man he has other things to do too and there's a thing as you mentioned like we nowadays we live with work so we're bringing you work now you live with your work but of course like this is for the sake of the community and it's great to help you here Mr Chua and for sharing in the community and on behalf of the gas we're very glad to have in a way connect with you we're going to see each other even more often for programs like this more programs so to our audience as always join us again next month on the 27th of march and of course to keep up with the latest updates and programs by the gas and our ecosystem partners don't forget to like our page as shown on the screener and i think my colleague will pop it up real quick later so next month we'll be having a sharing about social entrepreneurship so we're going to share the topic real soon so of course Mr Chua did touch a bit about it and social entrepreneurship is the thing right now so if you'd like to launch a startup or launch something so that may be a great talk for you so again talking about role models we do have an upcoming mentorship program called YFMP youth founder mentoring program that is open to all Moroccan students of higher learning, fresh graduates and early stage startups with at least one Moroccan co-founder to apply visit the link that is being shown on the ticker down below it's bit.ly slash YFMP 2021 so the application closes on the 21st of March so again like i apologize if there's any hiccups and all those things and thank you so much Mr Chua for giving us your time and also i'm not sure what happened i think the camera is also glitching because of too much online so it's never thought that it's going to spend this much time so honestly like this has been a very great sharing session we had really a lot of people right now still watching so if you have any questions feel free to ask again down below and us from tegas maybe what we can do is we can forward the questions Mr Chua and definitely visit his website just now as we shared and startup grind Malaysia to find out more about the things that he's been doing now so again on behalf of tegas thank you so much everyone and remember to stay curious and as always stay safe and we'll see you again soon bye bye