 Well, we have another challenge in maybe two hours, or at least are objective in terms of the end of the conference, it was called 3.30, and it'll go by fast, I suspect, because we are going to do it with agreement, and in terms of what is the outcome from each of the panels. Prior to doing that, along the way, certainly we didn't ask, or I certainly didn't ask hard questions, which are good questions, you know, from what's next, you know, as a sad one, you know, etc. Okay, and I'd like to come back and set the context again, like, if you know, allow me four minutes. The first thing, just to cut to the quick, is that relative to the supposive, and sort of what we hope, right off the bat, if you want to call it an outcome, first and foremost, that you can leave today, and what you've been engaged with, and been a part of, you walk away, that it's something you can use in the work that you're doing. That's on the front burner, and at some level, that's a success, at least in my mind, because it's a supposive, because why are you going to impose on people's time, ask them to commit more, but the fact that add to their additional commitments, and then have them go, and be in disbelief, and so that's number one, that you can walk away, some of what you picked up the last day and a half, it will help with the work that you do. The second is that we can walk away with the idea that moving forward, there are some things that we can do together to build for this. So at the very basic level, those are the two outcomes, at least as supposive partners, we hope that we can achieve, and I just wanted to mention that. The second thing, and all I need to do is get you back at us, or at me, at the end of the day, and there were a few things that I debated about saying at the beginning, that's the declarations, because having this kind of a form, you know, you're kind of looking at one another, you've got different perspectives on a variety of issues, and how to do it, what to do, you know, where to put our focus, where to put our priorities, etc. Sometimes we get into some traps, but I think that they're still maybe applicable, so forgive me if maybe I should have did it at the beginning, or maybe after you hear them, I shouldn't have said them at all, okay, and I didn't need to be said, so I'll take ownership of that. The first, and I'm thinking of a medium, because I had them down, the symposium is not a signal, it's a signal a reliance on public policies and programs for strengthening Latino families, nor to exclude the private sector engagement toward increasing economic mobility. So there's nothing here that said, we're not going to engage the private sector, or that we're going to be reliant, because people tend to want to interpret, they just want to program, right? Here comes the four, none of this is farther from the truth, you know, at some level you could say this is just democracy at work, you know, we want responsive public policies because you know they affect our lives. So, you know, so I just want to mention that, and I think some of that, and depending on the group we're in, maybe housing, labor reform and a little bit more than in education, and healthy human services, where the private sector probably gets more engaged, where you want more partnerships with public policies, etc., etc., but that's not exclusive from healthy human services or education, because of the issues that's going on in education. So I just kind of want to mention that, in no way do we propose to be reliant, quote on problem. The second one is, because the symposium is explicitly a Latino agenda, does not preclude alliances with non-Latinos or working with other political parties, or all political parties, okay? However, it does suggest that sometimes we engage with partners unprepared because we don't have our stuff together, and even at a basic level, if I can't just say one story in this, in this, or this point, you know, and I had a policy center that does La Fe Policy Research and Education Center, which by the way, our parent organization, the Center for the Salute Family, La Fe and La Plaza, it's been there for 65 years, and the meeting was engaged a lot more than in the past, maybe in Austin, and got together with different groups, you know, and I remember the first meeting with a group of maybe 50 progressive organizations, and not 50 individuals from different progressive organizations, primarily non-Latino, exactly there was only four or five, okay? Put on the table in a conversational Medicaid, hey, I want to take $500 million of the $200 million by Indian budget for Medicaid, and to put it into primary care, okay? Shift some of that money, and I almost got lynched, okay? And within two hours, I would drive back to Austin, give me a lot of head of the ARP, Juan, what are you doing taking away money for the elderly? And I said, hey, if I'm taking any money away from the elderly, I can't help it if you folks are older than the Latinos, they're my gravity, you know, we need access to regular primary care, you know, we don't necessarily, so even though we spent two, you know, two-thirds of our Medicaid budget on seniors, now seniors, we have some seniors that are under nursing homes and blah, blah, blah, but maybe not in proportion, but blah. So you see my point, so, but and I knew the response was going to be, I just wanted to make it clear that we're on the same page about redoing something to Medicaid and not allowing the state to create more barriers within the program, but we also have a fundamental difference, okay? Because it was my way of saying, if I'm going to support you on these progressive causes, are you ready to put at another 500 million on top of the two billion? You see my point? So that's what I mean, that it's not about not putting creative alliances, of course we want to create alliances with non-Latinos, other organizations, okay? The business sectors and so on and so forth, but I'm just saying sometimes we're just not ready, okay? Because when you get into that room with other groups to negotiate the policy positions, you and I know that's not easy, right? Even among ourselves prior to when we get to the legislative session, and that's all I'm saying by that. Do we have our own agenda and our own data, etc., etc., okay? And any one of the issues that we're concerned with? That's a question. The last one you kind of heard, you did hear yesterday when I said that, you know, there are Chicanos in the room, Mexican-Americans and Latinos and it doesn't matter the label we feel and the feel more comfortable with it. Once it matters to us individually maybe, but in the context of that, we're also into different generational perspectives and how we view that, how we view the world without the more personal experiences where we grew up. You know, because growing up in the valley, it's not that Chupan as possible or plain New Texas or Thailand as a Latino or Houston. So we may have experienced the same things, but I think we just need to kind of respect that. But the question is, is how do our ideas and our experience, you know, how do we fit them together into some kind of strategy that makes sense for our community as a whole? And that's easier said than done. I know that. The last one was, that's not that our observations or perspectives regarding money, political power or risk be self-imposed barriers to creative and constructive discussions. That one I probably should have said at the beginning. I looked at them on the net also, we're screwed. You know, come on, look at how much we've accomplished in the last, you know, five, six decades, you know, since the 1920s, you know, in terms of just making some progress for that. And I know we're going to make more, but I just want to, but it's often difficult because we put these self-imposed barriers for that. And sometimes because we get frustrated right now, who's got the control of the legislature and what is going to do with it for that? But we're here, so I know we're going to want to do something for that. And the battles are not necessarily all there because someone may point it out, you know, you got maybe the real groundwork we're going to need to do is at the local level, but not because we might ask greater control and power at the local level city by city and then move on to the state. And so again, I just wanted to mention that. I think that the other thing, as far as, and we'll get closer to as we degrade relative accomplishments, you know, in your binder and have a chance to read them, but they were the intent to provide a sampling of what I think is service of good work that's been done. I think I alluded to amount of helping human services, housing and education and labor employment. If we talk about a strategic effort to put an agenda forward from a Latino lens in any of these areas, each of those areas have something that's actually there as it may be a strategy or closer to it. It's probably education. You know, if you look at education, we do have a Texas Latino Education Coalition. We do have folks for organized political action that has been very involved with them. We do have a certain level of local or statewide representation of Latinos in different disciplines, by the way, not just grassroots but educators, folks who are involved in litigation. So by comparison, and there is a document that's it there that I know that that group worked with as a maybe a little beginning, but there's not a similar thing in helping human services. So we're not as comparatively speaking as far as head with those set of issues and maybe even in housing or labor employment as we are with education. So I just want to mention that there are some things and some assets, if you will, in there that we can build from. And there's another document in education in there that came Education First that's in the final Nationalist piece of work that looks at it from a certain perspective that should tie in well to, I think hopefully we've tried it well, but they probably maybe had some of that in the discussions in terms of thinking about strategies, in terms of how do we gain the influence to make some education policy changes in the direction some of which are there, maybe some new ones that came up in the conversation but moving forward. And so there are pieces there. And so I just wanted to mention the other document that's there called Strong Families and Child Children's Future Blueprint. And it's basically it's more like a template tries to convey at least the advocacy behind that that I'm advocating for at least from my perspective is that we try to frame our policy strategies short and long term from the standpoint Latino families. How do we strengthen Latino families in ways that they can gain economic ability? Okay, because if each of us have a dream, my dream is that I would never have a single Latino family have to have panel, Medicaid, you know, food stamps. Why? Because economically, they don't need to do that. Now, that doesn't mean that we don't need a cent in that for them. But if I have swenils, it's the swenils that we, you know, we're an empowered, strong families and we have those resources. So that might be nothing that I'll achieve in my lifetime. But it doesn't, you know, so I'm just saying the framework of a family because you can certainly tie in education to how that strengthens family. You can certainly tie, you know, again employment, you can certainly tie housing that they all contribute in one way or another to economic mobility because I have access to health insurance and I don't have to risk that if I get sick and I'm not able to get employed. So there's a lot of arguments can be made into the idea of strengthening the family. My argument to you is if we're about family, then maybe that's maybe the top rank and then we have these components. And that's not usually exclusive that each of those areas have a strategy for us. So, you know, I try to throw in there, how can we kind of do a strategic mapping when we bring in the different components with the kinds of policies we want as outcomes out of these areas? Notwithstanding the reality that we, I know you discussed that we're going to get into the degree, how do we get it done? But I'm still back to one central message, our question. Where is our, that we get people to sign on year by year, that this is the direction we want to head that helps strengthen our families in all of these areas? And multiple Latino organizations have signed on to it? Okay. Non Latino organizations have signed on to it because we brokered it, you know, for different sectors. And that might take us five years, 10 years, okay. And some elements of that plan, you know, we, it may be more short term, then we get other elements to buy into it or that, then maybe more long term strategy. So I don't know if that makes any sense. But the basic idea of that is just think the thing, how can we possibly be bringing together a statewide strategic plan, you know, for strengthening Latino families now? If folks want to argue, call it something else, that's okay. You know, that's, that's not up to me. I'm just, just like, it's just a, an idea was meant to be thought of. And so all of that said, you know, from the standpoint, as best I can answer the questions that people were asking, what is going to come from this today? So the short answer is, we're going to take the product of what we discussed on the debriefings. And like I said, the presentation, etc. And, and see what we could mesh together as a, I'll go ahead and just right now, call it an action plan. We may decide to give it a different title, but some kind of strategic plan that incorporates these. And in a way that makes sense and it's logical and it's meaningful. And then I want to give it back to each and every person in the room, we're going to give it back to each and a person to give you some time to review it and say, is this kind of what you think we said? And how do you feel about what with this plan? In other words, will you write off on it, so to speak? Because you were here, okay? So they just sort of capture those things. And, and to the extent that after a good amount of time, you know, and so it becomes a product of some level. And yet it's not a finished product. It's a working plan. But that that is, that it's a quality, at least a suspicion quality that not only do we give it to you, but are we willing to do we share it with others that we want to build from it. And what we might some somehow tie into it in terms of doing something next year or whenever, I'm not sure, but I'm just saying as an immediate product, the idea is to come up with this sort of a working document from the symposium that in and of itself will have value. The other piece that's a little more difficult is because that, that piece might be more strategic in nature. And, and you might not feel that, well, it doesn't help me to date with this issue. But the other part was depending on each of the groups, like if, if there's some things that come out of education, because they may be a little bit more further ahead, that the content of that, along with different pieces, might feed into having developing a good sort of strategic sub, like a brief, you know, that's a that might have a utility for advocacy or for whatever. I'm not sure that but the main thing as far as an immediate was that and on the final question, well, what can we do next? You know, what's next? Well, I'm not going to say anything about it right now until we have the debriefing. And we're going to have to answer that question, you know, because I'm just responding to from the work that's been done here, from the time investment, in terms of something on paper to get back to folks. This is what we're going to get back to you and see what you think and whether or not that document can work in a way that we can build on. And so I'm not making any presumptions about that, because otherwise I'd be lying to you. So I don't know if that helps a little bit. But I'd like to go ahead and go into the heavy, each of the facilitators, and I need to, I don't want to be, in case I forget, I know it's hard. Okay. And the group dynamics, you know, has a way of coming to life on its own. And so I'm going to ask, start, you know, let's start with housing and then work back from that. And then after housing, you know, if we could do a healthy human services and then neighborhood employment and education. And I'm going to ask them to take, you know, 15, not more than 20 minutes to summarize the outcome from their discussions. And they each had a facilitator's guide, by the way, that was given to them, you know, a month before or whatever, somewhere around that time to kind of help, you know, toward the four key areas. What are, generally speaking, what are the key, some of the key issues for us? And even though we can make a long list of people who already felt they knew what they were, nonetheless, what are the kinds of policies that would be responsive to those issues to improve our community in those areas, either that exists or don't exist, and we want to see happen. But then the real hard one, the real hard one, as you know, is what capacity do we have to make that happen? Okay. And that, again, when we talk earlier, the whole idea of what is our organizing capacity to collaborate and move that agenda policy-wise and get it approved, if you will. As an example, you know, what is our policy development capacity that either we have now or don't have and need to build to better support the data analysis, et cetera, to get those things done. And then the communications in terms of the messaging and a message to different audiences, not just Latino, but across the board, because we know we have to do different messaging for different audiences. So it's, again, relative to what is our strength to get this achieved, and not only vastly in terms of the group in this room, but how do we broaden that for the outside of the group or do something else to follow? So that was kind of the general guide for the facilitators to use, and that's what I'm saying. It was a very challenging thing, and I'm sure it can be frustrating, but that's part of the process. I'm sorry, but I see it. And so with that said, with that statement, it's a good puzzle, though. I'll see you.