 I found out about the 21 convention when it was early, early in the conceptual form. It was when he was batting ideas around on a forum with the community, and he was really kind of self-generating this idea and a concept, and initially it was an under-21 convention, and I had absolutely no interest in it. I was an older guy pushing 40, and it was geared really to the young Turks, and without question, unabashedly, unashamedly. But it was fascinating to watch, to see that process evolve and what Anthony has done with it. And so that's when I first hit it. So it was a really unique experience of, I remember when this was absolutely a pipe dream. It was simply a wild hair of Anthony's ass, and he took it and he ran with it. Never did I expect to actually get swept up into it and be a member and active participant in it, and to see how it's affected my life as well. But he has that way.