 That video go win the video is go win. I don't like that the blue alert Stays up over the live yellow button because it's harder to tell if it's like it goes from getting ready to go live to live, but we're live and I'm not gonna tell you about Fight Club because that breaks the first rule And We are we are we are chock full of the news We are we are brings bacon says I should put a strip of bacon over my nose Probably would help it heal It's just a cut folks just a cut probably probably from from dry air. It's the night air So Mary and you're gonna used to always say when when my friend mark would get sick. It's that night air. You shouldn't be up Yeah, that live blogging oh Geez man, I'll tell you what I Heady day for for my Twitter feed like it is just from all different directions between the WWDC and the E3 and Everybody's in full live blog mode. So they're just you know using One word it's all like one word updates with something that everyone just found out about live Right, and I have no idea at first glance whether or not it's like a new file system for one of the OS is or a new standalone game from Tony yeah, it's just like feed Yeah, it's dark. It's just all like quizzle ball Well, I have no idea what's happening By the way, there's an all caps line in the second story here that is not meant to be red shouted I just happened to accidentally turn caps lock on now. There's a tar dark mode um Sierra sling By the way that that might be the move to cut cable Yeah Think that's that's gonna be it Really, I just need to find a wrestling Substitute, but I think that might just be Hulu Okay Well, what about their own their own app is still just not moving at USA USA is the real real mother Lover PlayStation view. All right. Here we go ready We start again, I didn't have the right thing up All right now now I'm really ready. I'm really ready. Let's go. I'm ready for you to be ready This is your captain speaking I'd like to take a moment to remind you that this show is brought to you by listeners like you who give value for value To show your support go to daily tech news show dot com slash support We know you have a choice when it comes to getting your tech news and on behalf of the crew I thank you for choosing the daily tech news show This is the daily tech news for Monday, June 13th 2016 I'm Tom married joining me Justin Robert young fresh off the road host of night attack weird things dot com politics politics politics and Recently returned from jury in your house Yeah, I was in so many houses Thank you to everybody who came out that were DTNS fans and listeners in Louisville Cincinnati and Chicago We had such a great a great time and I really feel like there was a both of us I'd had great a great community experiences this weekend you with Scott Johnson in uh in salt lake city And we were just sending each other videos back and forth Uh with all of our friends who we don't live near Yeah, it was it was a really good time uh in salt lake watching warcraft hanging out meeting fellow fans podcasters, etc Uh, but today we come back and apple apple they don't give any of the The animal fox They just do their thing whenever they don't care if it's e3 day where every other gaming company On the planet is going to be putting out press conferences and microsoft Which also had a press conference running at the same time as apples w w dc announcements Uh just decided to buy linkedin yesterday and just make it extra special All those emails finally worked So what we're gonna do today, uh Last time we did this with google i o we did a main discussion that was separate from the google i o discussion and people got mad Uh, no people maybe like two people got mad. They're like you should have only had google i o So today we're just we're just gonna talk about everything that's in the top stories as we go Uh, and then we'll get to the emails at the end because there's just so much It'd be silly to talk about it and then talk about it again, you know Sometimes we can create a a beautiful bellagio fountain of news with everything perfectly in time This is a raging river and we are literally just trying to survive. So please This is we keep our head above the water. Ah, ser paracadismo right into these headlines Uh, watch os 3 can now keep apps in memory so it can do instant launch Uh, you can 3d look right into to see things not 3d look But but you can tap in and see it without even having to fully launch it side button is now a dock Button it pulls up the dock when you hit the side button control center can be accessed by swiping up from the bottom And you can use something called scribble, which I like to call newton to write letters instead of typing them It supports both english or chinese you can also press and hold the side button to call emergency service It's a three second press and then it will call automatically whatever the local emergency service number is Then then after it's called the emergency service number will automatically notify any of your emergency contacts And then display your medical id info. Uh, there's a new workout app that adds shared rings So you can have a little friendly competition with people Uh, there's new wheelchair settings that adapt with things like time to roll instead of time to stand There's two specific workouts for wheelchairs and a new breathe app tells you when to breathe It's a deep breathing app kind of like stand time to deep breathe apple pay is now supported in apps Not just on the watch itself and it's a free upgrade that comes in the autumn Uh, well finally, uh, gavin ross dale will have uh his Justices we are reminded on our wrist when to breathe in and breathe out Uh, we uh, I think this is certainly Where we want to go with watch os. I am a loyal apple watch user I I think this update is all Kind of the the the poo poo platter aside from whether or not This refreshing and and the quickness of app loading Is actually makes a difference because as it as it is now even with the most recent update They're still unusable. You can't reliably open something Uh at the in a reasonable amount of time for you to really get something out of it Well, they even like showed how not they didn't show the worst example But they showed how slow it was to launch apps on the watch on stage and then said Here's what it looks like in watch os 3 and it was fairly instant granted That's demo magic But you don't see them oftentimes show how bad the old os was Like that. So I think they're trying to acknowledge. Hey, this was not optimal here What i'm curious about is what this going to do to the battery life Of the apple watch because we're not getting a new model watch at least at this stage And you're going to have a lot of background app Activations a lot of memory caching and and that could be a drain I mean and this might just be them making that decision because obviously the way that the apps were set up now Is that they did not want to lose on battery? They wanted you to believe that that this is something that can last all day You're not going to be looking for a charger for both your watch and your phone Uh now maybe they say hey look now you guys understand the dark bargain that we have made You want faster apps? Congratulations now you have them But go ahead and make sure you keep that cord in your pocket homeboy because you might wind up without a watch That has all your notifications now on the other end They can say a dead apple watch or an apple watch in its Absolute lowest power capacity that can last for days Is still functional as a timepiece in a way that fair enough. Yeah is not functional when it runs out of battery Apple started with new apps coming to tv os including slings live tv service Coming today along with fox sports go and molotov next month There's also now a dark mode for viewing in the dark without the white glare A remote app for the iphone will include touch controls Siri game control with accelerometer and gyroscope and of course keyboard input some kind of Single sign on will be introduced throughout uh, uh, sorry will be introduced though apple didn't add details Apps downloaded to ios will automatically download the apple tv if available and home kit and its new home app are coming to apple tv The new update will be free This autumn by the way new update free this autumn That's the refrain that we're going to be saying for all of this stuff That's they've they've standardized on that for every one of these operating systems Uh, this this got the least amount of attention. They did this announcement in 10 minutes So it wasn't much longer than what you just said, uh, they whipped through it And so we didn't yet get details at least at this point Hopefully they'll be out within the next 24 hours about what that single sign on means I doubt they're participating in tv everywhere. Uh, that would be huge news But they should they they would have to be managing like a keychain To to do it some other way. So I I love this idea of like, hey, I sign in once I don't have to keep signing in to everything, but I don't know how that works Yeah, because that I mean one of the biggest, uh problem uses problems with uh apple tv And really any of these set top boxes is input, right? The less you can do that the better off that experience is always going to be especially when you are talking about Uh services that require Authentification from a cable company or and stuff like that if if we can just hey you want to set everything up Here's the easy way that you can maybe do it on your phone or maybe your phone can even authorize through uh other Services that now you you can like I can just log into hbo go Without having to do the annoying like when you go to this website Please enter in the following five digit code and when you see the old elf, please recite the following Well and the remote app will help with that because now you can do use the keyboard on your phone to enter some stuff I have a feeling though that well all this means there's a new tv everywhere tv anywhere, uh I can't remember which one it is now suddenly A service that only a few cable companies are supporting that do single sign on Yeah, and so it may be all the apple's doing is saying hey, we support that now if your cable company does it And whatever participating apps are part of it and and most of the major broadcasters are part of it Then you can use it on the apple tv that that may be all it means that which may be why apple Like sped through it so much because it's not their own technology In which case hbo now is not going to work sling tv is not going to work It's not going to be single sign in for everything So yeah, I mean they want to say it so it's a part of their bullet points But if they didn't make a big deal about it, then you know, obviously, I mean, I guess the other sub headline here is that Uh set top boxes still a hobby for apple that they don't really care all that much about Yeah, they well, I I think they care a little more each time But certainly not on the level that they care about the operating system the other operating systems Biggest news for me is sling like now. I don't have to switch to the roku to watch sling channels I'll be very curious how that app works It's the first app with the new interface that they unveiled at ces to come out So I can't I've downloaded it and installed it But I didn't get a chance to really play around with it with everything that was happening today OS 10 is now called mac os not a big surprise The new version that's coming out this fall will be called sierra You can auto unlock it with your apple watch Clipboard and copy paste will now work across mac os and ios iCloud will have the ability to manage your files So you can have a universal desktop across all your devices Make sure you don't run out of room. You can have it automatically remove files Similar to what dropbox is now going to do where they say like we'll just keep everything in the cloud And we'll manage it for you so that your files are available Apple pay is coming to safari. You'll have to use touch id on your ios device Most likely your phone to verify it But you can then in a website use apple pay picture and picture now works on mac os works very similarly To the way it does on the ipad and siri comes to the mac Although it is more limited than the siri that you're going to get on ios mac os here Free upgrade in the autumn also mentioned at w w dc in the lineup that came out after the keynote of a new apple file system Called apple file system that will replace hfs And that seemed to be the biggest Some of the biggest buzz i saw especially considering this is w w dc, which is obviously very developer focused Is is people still trying to wrap their head around exactly what that's going to mean going forward, but Uh, I I have to say uh, you know That what we've seen a lot with these kind of announcements for the the uh yearly incremental, uh You know a mac os Upgrades are a lot of nice Features, but if anything I feel like that is just kind of the new normal right like it's just features these days Yeah, I mean the the the fact that the file system wasn't even mentioned at the developer conference when it's probably the biggest Potential change to the operating system means that's what they're trying to catch people's attention with features and siri was the big one It doesn't really do All that much that's more impressive, but it's there right you can click On it from the dock. It will also have something up in the top right corner a little icon that you can access it from Uh, but it's it's just voice search. I mean it is no better than than what you get on chrome os or certainly cortana In fact, I think it's far a little bit farther behind what cortana does But but it's there and that that's essentially what os 10 does now is say hey guess what we have this now Hey, yeah, I mean it's them keeping themselves in in the game there I do think that uh apple is in a a kind of uh, you know Go or get off the pot kind of situation when it comes to freeing siri in a world where where you know Alexa and and google are are taking big gigantic steps into the voice assistant stuff for the record Both my siri and alexa were triggered while we were recording this very soon So the pain is felt by us as well not just those of you at home listening on your amazon echo I do I do love apple pay. I'm wondering in practice How fluid it will be to have to pick up my phone to confirm But I still think that's more fluid than having to remember a password or even use a password manager I have a wallet case on my phone. So if I need to pull out my credit card I go for my phone anyway if I can now do it with a tap of the button on my phone instead of opening up Uh, the the phone case and grabbing the card. I'll be very happy to do it The biggest problem with apple pay for me is I just need more banks I need my bank to get on it right now I only have one card and it's great for me because now it's my business card But I don't have all the options, you know apple bay is is as a technology. I think extremely useful As a business and family of services. It still has a ways to go before it is The absolute go-to uh that that I think it really needs to be Well, I think it's obvious which operating system apple loves the best these days because they they saved it for last And it got the most attention Indeed and that is The newton just kidding uh ios got the biggest list of new features and what tim cook called the mother of all releases Uh raised awake rich notifications are coming and siri is now available to devs Siri intelligence is being added to the keyboard too from maps Contact info or pre-filling calendar entries as it is multilingual typing. I'm gonna really have to shut down my phone Yeah, well, and and that's the point is siri will now have context available to you So so you can say things in different orders Uh, they they've really improved it on ios in a way that that was not apparent in the os 10 or i'm sorry the mac os Demonstration uh siri intelligence being added to the keyboard too shows that they are Definitely making a big deal out of the fact that they have got some machine intelligence development here They also made a big uh deal out of the fact that all the analysis happens on your phone Uh, they are they are not running this through a server somewhere where your data will be kept Although they did talk about differential Privacy and and and things like that. So it's not not like they're not collecting the data It's a little bit confusing what they're doing with it But they are doing most of the analysis on your phone Which means you're in control of it and yet you should still be able to get the benefit Of of an artificial intelligence machine learning deep learning look at your data These keyboard things were the most exciting to me because I don't really love talking to my phone out and about Uh, I don't want everyone to hear what i'm asking for but having say uh a map location show up on the keyboard or or or Prefilling a calendar in invite and although I don't really use calendar. I use google calendar So i'm you got to stay in the ecosystem, but I love the idea of it. That's what i'm saying Uh, certainly so and and you've really seen I think apps kind of lead the way in terms of uh, you know They have an advantage because you are already siloing exactly what you want by opening the app So having it, uh, you know be pre-filled with good information like you know for me as as a regular uber user The fact that they know that by and large i'm usually only going to one of four brunch places or the bart station, uh is Very very helpful You know and and I think there's no reason why apple as the conduit for all that can't Spread a lot of that functionality out to some other elements that could use it including texting my friends or or just When somebody says where are you at pre-filling with like, you know where I am physically Advanced computer vision will add facial recognition and cluster photos into memories So so in other words it will be able to tell like oh these all came from the same place Let's make a trip uh location here. This looks like it was a birthday party Let's put all that together plus being able to say oh, these are the people we think are in these photos Maps gets proactive suggestions and some common navigation elements like rerouting while you because of traffic Route info like gas stations. These are pretty basic things that other navigation apps have had for a long time But they're finally coming to apple maps apple news add subscriptions and breaking news notifications trying to make it work More like a newspaper a new app called home collects all the home kit functions together and apple tv Is getting a new role as the secure point for your remote access I think that also points to the idea of what apple wants to do with apple tv and turning it into a home hub The phone app adds voice transcription and an extension api for things like identifying spam numbers for instance Contact cards can support other apps so you can put somebody's whatsapp or we chat identification information in the contact card And starting with ios 10 apple will let you delete the companies built in apps They didn't announce this on stage, but it came out afterwards So maps calculator music videos those will all be in the app store. They showed up already And we were like well, wait a minute. We're going to be able to delete them and the integrity. I'm sorry the verge says yes You'll be able to add and delete those it also means that they'll be able to be updated Off scheduled you don't have to wait for an operating system update to get an update to these default apps That's huge. I mean that's something that people have asked for for a very very very long time It also shows a kind of a different philosophical view of where these You know what the roles of these apps and specifically it's saying that the strength of ios is in the app store And that includes even us the great and powerful and wise apple that yes You can have other apps that are going to find a home in our ecosystem that would supplant the stuff that we give you Uh real quick and just a post script to our apple tv conversation I kind of find the idea that apple tv is to secure a point for remote access a little bit of Uh Just I think that it's an important enough idea that they want to put it out there But the fact that apple tv is not being taken more seriously is something that I think Ultimately will will sort of hamper it either They're going to go all in on apple tv or an apple tv like device or some kind of home hub Or they're not and and right now it seems like apple tv is more focused in the in the way that they are As just being an entertainment hub and not necessarily a way that you can connect All of your uh all of your smart uh functionality Uh, but all all things being equal like this is a lot of a lot of stuff here Well, and and you could point to everything and find a predecessor, right? There's tons of home hubs out there that are End and encrypted. Uh, there's tons of a facial recognition facebook is the king Of facial recognition and google has been doing facial recognition in their photos and coming up with these Agregations, uh for you. So none of this is new. That's always the way that is always what apple does apple does not Do things usually not never say never, uh, but usually what they do is say, okay We finally figured out how to make it work the way that they think is the right way to make it work Meanwhile messaging got a lot of upgrades including rich links inline video and live camera preview emojis are three times bigger and you can auto And you can auto ili words are in place With emojis with one tap bubble effects allow you to make responses loud gentle slam in or hide behind an invisible link Uh, sorry invisible ink and you have to swipe to reveal it You can also add background images hand write text and send drawings and heartbeats eye message apps are now open for developers to add extra functions this kind of reminds me tom was it during facebook's Bot conversation that they added like whimsy as one of their key Uh key elements that I don't remember is that right? It sounds right It it it was either messaging or bots. It might be bots, uh, but but they they added things have to be fun And this to me Seems like apple taking seriously and this is something that i've always thought for a while But nobody really makes the point that for all that we talk about the boom of messaging apps if you just look At messages dot app, you know And if you were to slice it out of the ios system, right and just looked at it as its own impact It has a gigantic footprint and and it has done that with uh very very little of a lot of the secret sauce that has made All these other messaging apps super super popular the one thing that you just know is that it's pre-installed on ios This to me is a is a big sign that they are taking that More seriously and their position in that ecosystem is not just hey look. Here's how you send sms is uh, this is Let's do more bigger more fun Uh more more interesting and and give a lot of the creature comforts that have kind of been around in other apps for a while I mean, they're not doing stickers, but they're doing three times bigger emojis Uh, they're they're not really making their app a platform, but they are providing this sort of extra function app So it's it's a part way down the road of where every other messaging app has already gone And and yet at the same time they're allowing uh, they mention we chat a lot partly because they're just targeting the chinese audience Where we chat is huge but but also because I think they realize that while these other messaging apps We need to include them. Uh, we need people people really are using them We're not going to get chinese users to just switch over to iMessage But at the same time they they want to beef up iMessage for the loads of people Over here in north america that are using it. So I I think these are all Must-haves if you want to keep your messaging app at all competitive for people. I I don't know That I really think replacing emojis with one tap makes sense People seem to get the most excited. I got the biggest applause of anything in the announcement Like why would typing I have to type out an entire word Then it's automatically highlighted and then by tapping that I can replace it with one character Now I get searching for emojis is not is not a fast process So maybe this does make some sort of efficient sense certainly a psychological No, it's this is a real functionality This emoji search is the reason why I try to use gboard as my default keyboard Uh because of gift search and emoji search. This is their own version Of emoji search is just type a thing and then if it highlights you get to do that little A little thing now that's not search. It doesn't give you all the functionality of search But I do think that people like to use emojis and and uh, you know, it can add a playful tone in a world where text is read specifically by You know that the receiver right and this is a problem as old as the internet Any way that you can specifically in tone silliness fun sarcasm He's at a premium and emojis do that So I think that this is a little bit more serious than than we might initially think but you know at the end of the day It is just deciding You know typing two girls dancing and then you know just hitting it and getting those two little ball ballerina girls with their Legs out. Yeah, listen man. I I am certainly not going to be the one that says this is too silly It won't be successful because those two things are mutually exclusive necessarily And real quickly I just want to throw in a mention of swift playground It was it was tim cooks last announcement when he came back out on stage It's a way to teach kids to program in swift And it's real simple. In fact, if you're not a kid, you still might want to use it If you want to learn how to program in swift and it should be available in free beta next month And what do you say we get in the car and head down the 101 from uh from from the bay area to los angeles california Come with me to the electronic entertainment expo Where microsoft announced two new xboxes project scorpio Is a device that doesn't even have an official name much less a price or release date But it is targeted to come out around the holiday season of 2017. That's a that's more than a year from now We'll have eight cpu course six teraflops of gpu power support vr gaming offer true 4k gaming With 60 hertz rendering and uncompressed pixels and microsoft emphasizes Accessories and games will be compatible across all the xboxes xbox one project scorpio And the new xbox s justin tell us about that one It's going to be 40 smaller with an integrative power supply. No power brick Comes with a controller and with textured grip and bluetooth Supports 4k ultra hd video including 4k ultra hd blu ray And hdr for both gaming and video has a built-in ir blaster, but no connect port play your taps for that Uh, you'll need to get the connect with usb adapter if you want to still work with it It can be stood on its side too just like the xbox 360 The xbox one s will be available in early august with two terabytes of hard drive for 399 dollars whose standard version will be available soon after with a 500 gig addition for 299 and a 1 terabyte for 349 that seems like obviously The xbox division knows their price points, but that just seems crazy pants to offer a 1 terabyte for 50 dollars more Than the 500 gigs and 50 dollars less than the two terabyte, right? Yeah, I mean that's that's uh, We're making the money on game pricing right there. Uh, it's I wasn't that that is movie theater popcorn pricing. That's like would you like a large for 75 cents more? Right exactly I I'm not shocked that xbox came out with two Pieces of hardware, but I am surprised like the one thing people were going to be most incensed about is You're giving us new hardware and they're like great not only are we giving you new hardware in august But also next year as well. Uh, they're like they just jumped into the pool They're like get used to it new pieces of hardware every year is where we want to go And this is the beginning and in fact the the press conference opened up with a video of the xbox one s Now I imagine part of that might be Because of the leak of all the xbox one s details yesterday Which the conspiratorial part of my mind is like well, sony gave that weird interview that came out in the financial times on friday About yeah, we're gonna have a new uh, playstation 4 not anytime soon And I don't want to support 4k gaming, but it'll have 4k video So microsoft might have wanted to leak theirs out because beatmaster was one of the people in our chat room just now saying Microsoft always rips off sony's idea and that's what it looks like It looks like they just followed sony because sony got the word out first on friday So they just throw that at you right away. I swear just it. Yeah, I swear I heard booze when they when when phil spencer came on stage After the xbox one s video, but there were enough of the developers in the front rows Uplotting that I couldn't tell for sure. All right Well, I'm sure that we'll spend the next few hours the prudering through all of that and sifting through the audio with a fine tooth comb Let's just assume that this is I mean this is obviously for microsoft going to be the new normal They very much had uh, I think you could Charitably say a troubled launch for for the xbox one. They seeded control of the console market to sony This Is interesting, but it also kind of Is a such a radical departure for how consoles have been sold pretty much since The beginning right? I mean the is this is the official Death, uh, you know if microsoft has their way. This is the official death of the you know, four to six year development cycle Right, I mean if we if we actually get the same official announcement from sony or more Uh this evening at six o'clock. Uh, I think yeah, you could you could say it certainly microsoft is signaling. Yeah, we We would like to just keep doing this And 4k is a good way to make the justification To say look all we're doing is providing a version that takes advantage of your new tv Most of you guys didn't have a 4k tv when the xbox one came out Why would we put out one that could support 4k? But now the 4k tv's are coming along a few of you guys might want to buy one We want to provide you one that gives you 4k and they're being very clear All your games work on all three consoles The undame project scorpio all your accessories work on all three consoles. That's the huge part about it, right? is that uh Part of what we are hardwired to think is that with a new console comes this this, you know continental Divide where now the things that work before do not work going forward That seems to be something that will be different, but let's make no mistake You know we talked about apple and and their and their uh announcements earlier xbox microsoft is looking and saying oh wait, so you guys are spending Five hundred dollars on a phone every year. You're spending three hundred dollars on smart watches. What about me? What about raven? They want their uh, their their money if somebody wants to update their xbox every single year $300 is a very good price point for that Uh, there there will be people who just give microsoft or sony if they make the very similar announcement at 300 It makes a lot of sense And we got a couple of announcements, uh for updates to services one called xbox play anywhere Is the result of windows 10 universal apps, uh, so you can now get games bought for xbox one On your windows 10 box for free. Uh, you buy it in one place You get it free in the other place and basically you just get cloud access to the game Sports cross platform play you can even pick up a game where you left off on the other platform If you save games to the cloud anyway, if you save them locally, that's not going to work Forza horizon 3 gears war 4 halo wars 2 and recore are among the games that will support this xbox play anywhere at launch So it won't work for every single game Uh, this is also another another very interesting, uh thing that it seemed to get a fairly positive buzz From from what I was able to see and following along on social media, but uh People want to be able To to play where where they want and especially because PC gaming especially with vr as as uh experience, you know a continued, you know sustained, uh Moment in the sun This makes a lot of sense Yeah, and apple likes to think of their apple tv as a gaming device And it's the same motivation for them to say hey when you download something on your iphone If the app of exists for tv os we're going to put it over there microsoft tapping into that saying yeah It's all windows doesn't matter whether it's on an xbox or a windows 10 Desktop machine we're going to give you access to that if we can stuff like this also kind of shows A little bit more of of why Microsoft was putting such a do or die emphasis on windows 10 Right. Yeah that you know, they want these things all these features don't matter if people are hanging out on windows 7 Especially gamers that that are afraid of change So that's that might be why I don't know if i'm ready to forgive them for for force uh update upgrading me from 7 to 10 but uh, I can understand Uh xbox live is also adding clubs on xbox They're communities that share your interest in games and play styles a looking for group feature helps you find a gang to join Live is also getting arena tournament platform Publishers can run tournaments on the surface and ea will bring fifa to arena In coming years tom Yeah, it feels like they're taking uh mmo features and sort of making them into wider Community features, uh, you know clubs are or similar to like say guilds in world world of warcraft There's arenas in all kinds of games So that that makes perfect sense and some people are even pitching this is like hey It's a safe space to hang out and talk with people if that gaming culture Open nature gets you down you you may be able to find a club you enjoy and then you have people that you trust to play with etc Yeah, and that's that's huge, you know, uh because by and large now if you have a pretty selected group of people Uh that you can pop in and play multiplayer games with it's going to be more fun than going in there and getting a lot of what Has become, you know, just the the gross some of the gross stuff that comes out of team speak and stuff like that All right, we are done with the microsoft e3 announcements But not done with the microsoft announcements microsoft announced that they have agreed to buy linkedin for 26.2 billion dollars in cash Uh, that it's arguable whether that's the biggest acquisition They've ever made if you adjust for inflationary dollars in their long history Uh, but it's certainly the largest in a long time way bigger than what they paid for nokia Jeff weiner will stay on as ceo of linkedin reporting to sachin adela They say linkedin will maintain independent branding and corporate culture Microsoft did detail how it plans to use linkedin's social graph as an integrated sales tool with dynamics their crm And linkedin owns online starting learning site linda.com. So you can imagine they might want to Use that to promote some of their software or educate people about microsoft software in a memo to employees Nadella indicated linkedin would feed into office as well. So there you go Uh, both boards approved the agreement and it's expected to close by the end of 2016 I mean they bought linkedin justin now paul thorot on thorot.com Says they're making the same mistake again Uh, they're buying something that they don't need and aren't going to be able to integrate well same as they did with skype What I would say as much as thorot knows more about microsoft and microsoft culture than I will uh, he has forgotten more than I will ever know uh this Linkedin is in and of itself a successful company, right? I mean the reason why this price is so high is because you are adjusting for projected revenue over a certain amount of years skype has always been a troubled weird company that as a duly popular As it is hard to integrate it to anything It's a reason why google didn't buy it initially despite the fact that it would have seemed to be a very interesting Acquisition for them and this is pre google talk It's just because their architecture skype's architecture has and even now is just hard to update for the modern era Linkedin on the other hand Seems to me like a smarter buy it it also in the modern world of acquisitions Which we have seen facebook do very very well Just add it to the portfolio let it operate right next to you if it's already making money It's not like being owned by microsoft is immediately going to make it make less money Microsoft already does a tremendous amount in terms of selling the enterprise if linkedin can just give them data that makes that Smarter richer or more interesting that seems like a bonus if anything you can debate whether or not 26.2 billion And exactly how that deal went down is maybe paying too much for it But as far as what linkedin is it exists successfully I I can't see why I mean, yeah, if the rock's right and what they really want to do is fold it into the borg Yeah, that'll be a disaster But if they want to just let it do what it's going to do Why isn't this a bad? Why isn't this a good idea? No, you took the words right out of my mouth I I fully respect paul too, and I think he's probably right I'm afraid he's going to be right But i'm hoping you what you just described is what they do and nadella does things differently So that may be the case where they they don't pull linkedin into office They just use it as something that can complement office, but not at the expense of the linkedin product They don't change the linkedin product They leave it where it is now you get some arguments that people say uh linkedin stale They they haven't been growing as fast as they should So so that could be another wrinkle in this that undermines it for microsoft But if linkedin stays strong as linkedin and can get a little boost By the synergies etc as long as they let it go then yeah, I think it could be something where like minecraft Yep, you've got a property that can survive on its own And be a good piece of diversification for you should other elements of the company start to fade You know all right, so let's also have a linkedin conversation right now linkedin very much Is a company that gets a bad reputation because of their spammy emails and and because it is thought to be this this uh stale weird uh spammy operation Linkedin is the modern resume Linkedin is the modern way that you can look for jobs What it has done very effectively is work itself in to mainstream corporate culture And when you can say it's not growing. Maybe it's become stale In that world it will also take a long time for it to filter out People will be looking at that because it is not exactly a bleeding edge tech Savvy society linkedin crack that code So if if that's what it is and it's making that cash like I don't know I mean, it's it's obviously not the two most popular actors in the world of the tech scene right But you know, listen, they they are both very successful and I can't see as long as they maintain A separation of church and state why it can't continue to be both. Yeah, and big jim in the chat room Pointed out. It's important to note Which person Jeff weiner is reporting to he's reporting to nadella This is not oh, and and they'll be folded into the services group. They are the cloud group That that that I think tells you that they plan at least for the time being they can always change their mind But at least for the time being linkedin is going to continue to be linkedin and that's what they keep saying Uh, yeah, all right one last thing and and I can under see where we're we're the rocks coming from because if if now Oh to have an online awesome networked resume. You have to be using Microsoft products. That is a disaster Yeah, absolutely absolutely even just part way down that road is a problem. Yeah Hungary passed legislation monday giving the national communications authority the power to block internet access to quote illegal dispatcher services The move comes in response to demands from taxi drivers to outlaw uber Services without mermaids will be first fined and then have their internet access blocked for a year uber told Reuters that uh its drivers have permits to drive taxis the new legislation comes into effect In 31 days now. Hungary's got some uh, some interesting governmental controversies going on outside of the world of technology That I think bear on this a little bit Just wanting to control certain elements of the society usually involving the press But I very curious about uber saying yeah, we've got the permits and a Hungary saying well, we're going to require them to have permits So somebody's missing something here, and I don't know if it's the taxi drivers saying yeah They say they have permits, but they don't and once we get this law we can prove it. I don't know Very often what I find these kinds of stories are Both a they're tricky to report. They're tricky to really keep a handle on when you're doing analysis like we are here but this always just feels like Doing business in different countries with different cultures with different governments Are you know, they're all their own little dance steps and and who knows if this is just what that is is You know one powerful lobby saying to the government that uber needs to be shut down And this is maybe the government's way of saying hey look we're doing We're cracking down on them and uber saying well, yeah, okay Well, we talked to this guy and next thing you know, we all got taxi licenses. So who knows I got a couple more stories out of e3 before we're done here meta makers of the meta 2 headset that does vr And ar raised 50 million dollars company says they're going to use that money To enter china and continue to develop their next headset the meta 3 Meanwhile the osvr open source vr developers headset hdk 2 will be available in july for $399 has 21 60 by 1200 OLED panels at 441 pixels per inch with a 110 degree field of view supporting nine frames per second the hdk Does not come with headphones or a controller But you can plug your own headphones in and uh used, you know, and if you're on windows You can use an xbox controller if you already have one so hence the cheaper price, but even at 400 dollars That's quite a bit lower. Even if you have to provide your headphones and controller yourself Yeah, you know, I I think this all of these products will be dependent on developers If there is an over abundance of vr games and experiences then the devices like this will thrive if it remains pooled or limited within the oculus vive PlayStation Ecosystems then these will not do nearly as well. Yeah, and we're going to see Loads of vr coming out of e3. There's no doubt about that Speaking of the vibe at their e3 press conference Bethesda softworks announced that fallout 4 Is coming to the hdc vive in 2017? The company also announced new dlc for the game with uh contraptions workshop Voltec workshop and nuco world coming out through the summer finally their mobile game fallout shelter will come to pc Next month I thought they were doing a new mobile game when I first glanced over these headlines and I got really excited fallout shelter coming to the pc is not bad, but uh, I love fallout shelter. 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It's from thinnice Who points out that a big part of the shock Of the refresh of the ps4 and now the xbox one is that the last console cycle was very long If you look up the history of nintendo sega playstation atari, etc The one thing that stands out is the eight years for both the playstation 3 and xbox 360 Before then sega was a steady four-year refresh cycle Uh, and nintendo and sony were about on five The other aspect that people seem to forget is the xbox 360 received several redesigns during its life cycle Maybe you forget this because microsoft replaced it so many times for you Uh, or you bought a new one every couple of years anyway But the original version did not ship with hdmi later versions did That's very analogous to adding 4k in a way. Uh, this also allowed better 1080p upscaling something that the original xbox 360 lacked He says the last generation's long cycle was beneficial in many ways, but it also hurt gaming as a pc gamer I for one was grateful to see this generation arrive because the last three years of the previous cycle were terrible The ports we got with their washout textures and low resolution models were really awful And then he says, you know what these new consoles aren't great with their eight gigs of ram Uh, you know driving 1080p gaming at 30 or 60 hertz says that's something that's hurt the xbox one Especially so then it says start looking forward to more regular purchases of consoles and more remastered games Now with better graphics and enhanced shaders while still being able to play your older games so, uh, I mean this obviously the Uh, I will I will politically say that the gaming crowd can often be Uh, uh loud and uh hair triggered This seems like just the logical move though Yeah, and and one that ultimately better serves everybody who wants the best console gaming experience You know what if I could defend the loudness It would be to say That kind of pressure has made sure that both sony and microsoft are bending over backwards to say Everything you can do with the new consoles you can do with the console you have today We're not going to leave you behind and I think that pressure will will keep up They're they're they're may it's forcing them to just say all we're doing is making consoles that have better Video uh that that have better options But we're not making them with new functions that won't work on the older machines And that's ultimately what by giving them different names and and essentially creating a yearly product cycle for consoles They are giving themselves or buying themselves The ability to hype the new feature to hype the new thing now They were very reluctant to do that initially and the reason why they just made new versions of xboxes instead of saying This is the xbox uh 360 and 1 and 360 and 2 right Uh is because they didn't want to face backlash and they didn't want to make it seem like they were leaving people behind It was like look it's the same thing, but now I have minor minor things a new coat of paint an hdmi board look at that They want to be able to yell and scream about these devices every single year and that's and that's what they're doing But I don't think that they would be able to do that without Making the the the peripheral the the peripheral market compatible throughout all of them because like that would always be The biggest complaint and and it doesn't make sense for them to Like step out on a stage and say love us for these things if they're just going to get tomatoes thrown at them Well, we're going to talk more about this tomorrow with patrick beija Who has been covering these live at frogpants.com slash live with scott johnson So tomorrow patrick beija and paul spain from new zealand who's been at e3 We'll join us. 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Yeah, yeah, yeah Felt good too Yeah, that was a lot man I was kind of joking about keeping our head above water and then halfway through i'm like, oh my god There's still so much it won't stop coming And and really we're only about 10 minutes longer than normal But it felt like even more You guys covered a lot I know you did it's like it's really I thought you guys wouldn't stop talking That's always That's what you want to leave them feeling Uh, all right, let's see titles Uh one log in to rule them all of course alluding to the whole os 10 thing os 10 is dead long live mac os Uh, Hungary isn't Hungary for uber Little oration, uh, oh those are all by silver blade Microsoft finally gets linked in Uh message in a bottle See apple like a honey badger Lord of the home hub mother vol releases big ass emojis Apple's not taking my breath away clubbing the xbox Yes LinkedIn 365 If they you know incorporate office and whatever, uh, jury is still out on w wc announcements Get ready for meta vr viva la fallout I mean what so It's funny because we we mentioned it a little bit lower in there probably the biggest News news is is linked in right? Yeah. Yeah That's huge huge See what else that linked in Mike's us off finally remember when we were joking and everyone was like, oh my god What a how how insane is zuckerberg for spending two billion on instagram? right Which worked out great so far like no i mean not been a problem. She's of course See Time to breathe apple's not taking my breath away At d t uh d tns at wwe3 dc You want your hardware? We got new hardware hungry for a lift Defending a lot of upgrade now to throw more shade Microsoft adds linked in to its network I'm trying to spin off the uh Tom, please add me to your linkedin network Uh Add microsoft to your linkedin linkedin network msn microsoft network Microsoft finally gets linked in linkedin with microsoft I don't know. What do you guys like anything? Nothing really jumps out at me. Yeah, I'm tempted at this point to just say wwc and xbox e3 Uh, yeah, they're rimes Hold on. I have to take a call from brian brushwood. Oh, what a wiener Hey, brian. We're still uh going in the post show, man Oh, hey, okay. Yeah, sorry. Okay. Yeah. I'm brian brushwood and this is okay. Cool. Bye He's like oops called too early Microsoft friends linkedin My the top getting is microsoft finally gets linkedin by big jim Well, should we go with that or just wwc and xbox e3? Yeah, you can do that But there won't be any i'm always for a I'm always for lame or titles. I'm like i'm like mr. Lame bottle. So you want the one I came up with? Yeah Yeah, no, I totally get I don't you wanted something lame tom and you delivered. I'm here for you Like like file names, right like right I don't put too much Stock in and how much that does for a podcast Because yeah, but but yeah Sometimes when it gets when it gets difficult when there's nothing just like really grabbing you and especially on a day like today When we have so much going on That well, even like for us, right? Like if we want to look up to say like, you know, we want to go back and and say Oh, look, we were right about this linkedin thing or we really good point about this when we first talked about it Like if it's called like, you know, uh, linkedin for such a silly goose Vive fall out something Like then then we're not going to be able to find it Such a goose That's your goose gets linkedy three Uh, all right, uh, i'm gonna i'm gonna tap out and go get some food All right, man. Uh, thanks for the for, uh, putting up with the travel Dude man, it was nostalgic, uh to have a big travel situation that was out of my hands. Yeah. Yeah All right, peace out. Cheers Well, i'm gonna take us offline because uh, I just need to export this and upload it and uh, we've said enough Yes at this point. So take care everybody. We'll talk to you tomorrow