 How important are they in your program? Well, I mean, the bridle that you use really translates what you're trying to do to the horse. So they're very important, whether it's in the early stages in a hack-a-moor or a side pull or a snaffle all the way to a bigger show bridle. I mean, it kind of helps the horse mature, or it can back up and help a horse go over some things that they learned early on. So it's very important what you work your horse in. And when would you start introducing leverage, like a correctional in those little things? You know, pretty early in their three-year-old year, I like to put a small, just a short-chain correction, maybe a leather herb, something with a martingale. As close as I can get it to a snaffle, but with a more stop, maybe a little bit more leverage. And it takes a while for them to really get used to it. They're not just going to automatically pack it like they do a snaffle. So it's definitely a transition. And you mentioned the leather curb. Tell me the difference between a leather curb and a chain curb, I guess, in how a horse might respond. You know, I like to show a horse and, you know, like this elephant bit right here, that's what I call it. It's a Delabavis bit. I've shown in this bit a lot. At Ferturity, I like it a lot early on in their show career. Some horses, I may keep them in a correction. You know, like a Bester Waltz shank that's swivelled. I don't see one right here, but I'm sure there's one in here. But it depends on the horse. Some horses, as you go, you want to put a straight bottle on them, they may get a little stiff. You may want to go back to... And so the elephant, it's such a daunting looking bridle, isn't it? But where is it misunderstood? Or how do people use it incorrectly, you reckon? Well, I mean, to me, the biggest misconception in putting a bigger bridle like this on a horse is people put it on there and they don't... They go to it with an attitude that they're going to get a horse back more than they're going to put them into this bridle. A lot of people go to a bigger bridle to get onto a horse for something other than... You know, you can scare a horse in a twisted bar of snapple just as much as you can in this. It's all about how you use it. Putting a bigger bridle like this on a horse allows me to have softer hands to where I'm not getting in the horses' way when they're working a cow. I can stop a horse real quick and not scare them if I use my hands and my feet right with this bridle just as easy as I can with... You know, and like some horses, like this bridle here has a little leather curb on it. You know, we show a lot in this bridle. It just really depends on the individual and probably getting ready for the fertility is figuring out what bridle a horse feels comfortable in and not just working the horse, but cutting your cows because, you know, once you put your hand down, the bridle's really immaterial, you know? So you need to be able to cut your cows with them. A horse handles well in it. They're comfortable in it. They were... I mean, the heavier the bridle right here, the more weight it has, the more... I don't like a real big bridle. That's not a terribly big bridle. The smaller bridle like that can be a little sharper, it would be a little quicker. You know, like in this bit right here, a lot of the feel comes from right here in that mouthpiece because it's got a pretty quick little 90 degree angle right there. And so it's just right there on their tongue. It's a little bit quicker than a bridle like this that's rounded. You know, the length of the purchase, the length of it, it allows you to work a horse with your hands lower and not have to do near as much to make them come back to you when you're working a cow. Like anything else, it can be overused. It can make a horse. I've noticed that horses that you work in a tie-down too much kind of get their feet out in front of their face. They kind of...