 It's time for Mac Geekab and listener Tony brings us our quick tip of the week with a tip He says he wanted to add his iPad an app to his iPads dock And it wasn't a new app just something that he's recently started using again And he had no idea where to find it in his never-ending list of scrolling screens And he thought something would work and it did he did the usual swipe down to pull up the safari series It's not the safari search the series search on his iPad and type the name of the app And of course it appeared in the list like it does anytime we search for an app hopefully and then he held his finger on it and Dragged it down to his dock and to his delight it worked This also works on the iPhone and on the Mac as well more quick tips like this plus Your questions answered and cool stuff found today on Mac Geekab 10 16 for Monday January 1st Happy New Year 2024 Greetings folks and welcome to Mac Geekab the show where you send in tips like Tony did you send in Questions like you'll hear in a minute. You'll send in cool stuff found we try to answer your questions We share your tips we share your cool stuff found all With the purpose of Ensuring that we each learn at least five new things every single time we get together Sponsors for this episode include linked in comm slash MGG where you can go and post your first job for free We'll talk more about that in a little bit for now here in Durham, New Hampshire on this new year I'm Dave Hamilton and here finally in snowy, South Dakota Adam Christensen and Pilot Pete is somewhere in New Hampshire with his yes, which on Well, you know when I go to sniffle I went in I was being kind I muted while you're reading the opening quick tip I sniffled and then I didn't unmute so Dave I should just open the window and shout out the window really loud really happy new year everybody pilot Pete from New Hampshire Yeah, I'm glad you got snow Adam, but I guess right. That's a good thing. Okay at a white Christmas nice Oh, that is kind of nice. Yeah. Yeah, that was good. Very cool. Very cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah All right Well, we have lots of quick tips to go through today Pete. You want to bring us to yours? Yeah And told us he said there was a recent discussion on MGG The episode before Christmas where a listener wrote in and Talked about sending automatic notification to his family about food being on its way and to set the table He said to me the easy way to do this is to have a message group set up and To do the hey Siri. Hey, yes, lady. Sorry everybody cancel Send a message to X group blah blah blah and there are some notifications You can send and receive the people as long as you are sharing location with those people like you do on a family plan For example, would my now adult daughter's in town and pass the local post offices, which is a local landmark I get a notification that she's just passed the post office. Ah But it gets a little different here, but he says to a former love interest. Okay. I don't know if you're stalking or she's stalking But I think this was maybe while they were Interested in each other. Okay. All right. Oh, yeah, he says I used to say I used to say the important word there I used to send notification to her that I was in her neighborhood Well, so how do I do that? Go to find my go to people and choose a person under the notifications click add Choose notify yourself or the other person and then set the parameters. It works pretty cool This is for example, you could use it to notify someone that you've left work or you're 10 minutes from home or work You know by choosing on in mark. That's thus far away. Yeah, that's sort of thing So it's a it's a really cool way of using geo fencing to automatically send notifications to people When and where when and when you will be in the neighborhood, huh? So, yeah, I Had used that occasionally You know to stalk my family like let me know when my wife is leaving the gym or whatever so that I you know would get but Now when you do that and this started a couple of years ago It says, you know, if you do this the other person's gonna know that you did this, right? And and then that felt that made it feel a whole lot creepier that I was doing this. So I stopped but Actually, it seems less creepy that they know It is less creepy that they know but if they would know I was being creepy about You know about about stalking them But you know, it's it's it's handy like I would want to know when my wife's leaving the gym So it's like oh, I've got 20 minutes like so that I can be wrapped up and ready to like make dinner together Whatever when she gets back like this would be great. So honey, I really wasn't home get the boyfriend out. That's right That's right. Yes exactly This is have you had good luck with geofencing and this is the thing I've played around with this and I felt like sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't but I more wanted to use it for Automations like I used to have a in one of those Q garage door opener things. Yeah, then you could ask Siri to do the garage door or whatever. Yeah, and It never quite worked a hundred percent for me so I I use an automation to automatically turn my Wi-Fi back on and join my home Wi-Fi when I get home. Yeah Yeah, that that work. I have the same one and that works for me And I yeah, and that is a geofenced, you know Automation, I don't know that I have any others Geofenced in fact, I I can confidently say that I don't but yeah, yeah I don't know if it was a geofencing or just the product I mean, maybe part of the problem was the product itself But you know, I was I had this dream of you know, I would drive Into my neighborhood and drive near my house and my garage door would automatically open. Yes. Yes I I well if it was like the Chamberlain my Q stuff or whatever Yeah, they've they've gone out of their way in recent months to really break that like they I think they end of life their home kit integration product and then they also Like broke the API so you can't use it with With home bridge anymore I don't even know how I would control it anymore like I I have a Wi-Fi Garage door. I think I have two of them But like I don't I don't know how I would control it I guess I would use their app and only their app which is like well cool But I I used to use it just you know manually like a caveman. I would tell Siri to sorry I would tell the s-lady to Open my garage as I got into the neighborhood like I I would be my own geofence You know and it was great like I loved it, but you can't do that anymore They got I meant to tell Pete earlier. You don't have to you if you're up to date on your s-lady stuff You don't know how to do that. Hey part anymore. Correct. That's right. That's which is why I I Apologized for saying that the word anyway. Yeah, I said the word and nothing happened So I've been noticing that that that's actually gotten smarter. I think The s-lady is more self-aware. Yeah, I I yeah, and I don't know that that's Yeah, every now and then you can give a command remember It was a quick tip some shows back that you can just hold up your watch and say 20 minutes and it'll yes It'll set a timer. So you didn't even say your name. That's right. That's right. Yeah. Yeah that I have to give that a shot It's cool. It's great. Yeah. Yeah I about the my cue thing. I am seeing Two comments in our discord chat at Mackie Cub comm slash discord and of course you can you can join the livestream When we're doing it and if you want to know when we're doing it Mackie Cub comm slash calendar allows you to subscribe yourself to it the exact same calendar that the three of us used to coordinate the show So it it is almost guaranteed to be accurate Because if if we're not here, then we're not live streaming the show But it reached W says because of that I had to drop my cue and ordered a morass system Instead and he says he plans to install it this weekend. So I did not even know that morass made a Garage door opener system. Yeah, so rich you're gonna need to follow up with us and tell it tell us how it went Yeah, all about it. Yeah, how to please and then Paul Conaway and also in the chat says I'm using I smart gate and I don't I don't even know what that is But we're gonna go. We're gonna take a quick look here. Is this like a It is it its own garage door opener or is it a Interface an interface. Yeah. Yeah, it looks like I Can't tell if it's it's is it its own is it like the entire opener or does it work? Does it just remote control other openers? It's just an interface. Ah Okay, this is very interesting Yeah, yeah, yeah Interesting and what's this? Let's look on Amazon here and see what the They need to tell me the price. Okay, just get me to the I smart gate pro like I just want to go Show me the money. Oh, it's less the less than 50 bucks. It's perfect. It seems to be. Oh Okay, this might be the oh, well, no, the sorry the pro is 200 bucks. So, okay, so we'll we'll I don't know what the Difference should be an issue. Everybody got a bunch of Amazon gift cards for Christmas. That's kind of fair. Yeah So you didn't break up the and plus you don't want to break the trend of us Immending really expensive things right got to cost you a lot of money hurted in any fun You might be able to get away with the smart gate light The mini probably not for for us, but that the light. Yeah, the light is gonna be 150 bucks So it's 150 or 200. So yeah, the pro and the pro can control two doors He says so yes, actually it can control three doors Which is kind of magic probably not in my house since two of them are in a different building from the other one But I digress. All right Yeah, we will we will dig more into that. That's fascinating. I'm glad we had this little tangential Conversation side Yeah, well the tangents are often where the you know the gems are found right the gems are found. Yeah, exactly Yep, this is what you know, I say it all the time. These are things. I love about doing this show is I get to learn to and Grumpy found a oh He made a garage door opener and and a home bridge plug-in for or he got a garage door opener and put a Built a home bridge plug-in for it. So yeah, our discord is full of really smart people way smarter than me and It's awesome. Like it's a really great community Mackie cap comm slash discord. All right on to One of the actually many smart people. I think we had this comment from Bruce and Paul and and several others And then there's there is a discord component to this But I will share in the last episode We talked about delaying sends and Adam you were saying you wanted something that you know allowed you to delay more than 30 seconds I think it was you maybe it was me Bruce writes to delay sending an email in Apple Mail for more than 30 seconds just go to the send icon at the top and Click the little down arrow which will give you several options send now Send at 9 p.m. Tonight or send later dot-dot-dot and that dot-dot-dot means that there is more to this option And when you click that it lets you set a date and time for delivery He says I use this often to send out a reminder to a group every Monday morning Reminding them of a Tuesday morning group meeting. Don't overlook Apple's email client. Yeah, I had forgotten about that Maybe it was UP. I don't know we had the discussion Well, yeah, you know I did it because I want to be able to send something a text to my wife's phone And then we talked about using mail to text and later dot IO This would work for me with one minor exception once I turned my phone off because I'm on the airplane It isn't going to send that that mail at that given date and time. That's correct. Yeah, but I Had no idea that was there how many you know, that's things right in front of your nose How am I expected to see that? Yeah Well, it gets even better because Ben in our discord created a script He wanted every email to be sent five minutes later not just 30 seconds later And so it which you used to be able to do with the mail plug-in called mail act on That plug-in does not work with Sonoma mail And so Ben wrote an Apple script that uses user interface scripting to trigger that send later thing and Queue it for five minutes from that moment in time and he has published that script in our discord The link is in the show notes at Mackey cab calm Or at mgg.fm slash 1016 because this is episode 1016 or in your email box If you sign up for show notes in your email at Mackey cab calm so Or if you're in discord, you can just go there, but uh, yeah Yeah, it's a it's a decent little script and he's iterated on it a few times as one often does with well any Coding not just Apple script But it seems like he's he's polished it up pretty pretty nicely. So yeah, that's awesome. Yep. Yep. I love thanks, Ben Indeed indeed and I think you can trigger it with Like keyboard maestro or or whatever speaking of the s lady. Did you know that she knows how to do the laundry Pete? What? Well, I love to hear that. Well, but Todd You're gonna haul it up and down stairs and fold it is she mmm. No, I don't think so. Yeah Todd writes and he says not really but Siri does know I did it again Does does know how to interpret the logos on the cleaning instructions of a clothing label and Todd sent us a Picture, you know that that he had taken of the clothing label and it has like all the weird Hieroglyphics that we've all learned to ignore or at least I certainly have and then like you could with a photo of a pet And it'll tell you what kind of dog or cat it is or whatever you go into photos You swipe up and then there's an option there that says look up laundry care And it gives you a key to tell you that like the triangle with lines through it means bleaching with non-chlorine Agents or the the one with the square with a circle in the middle tumble drying maximum 60 degrees Celsius like that tells you all the things to do or not to do with With a you know with the the the laundry instructions right Yeah, so there's a lot baked in there into the old the old s lady They keep adding more to that that photo recognition stuff, so I think yeah, we'll keep discovering things like this That's really cool. I didn't know about the laundry thing. Yeah. Yeah, I don't I plants all the time because it does plants too, so oh Yeah, does it do birds? I would imagine it does not know if it does bird species or not Yeah, and now I want to know all right feedback at Mackie come calm Let us know if you know because Even think of trying that I saw a bird the other day, and I looked it up But basically had to describe it and okay, okay, there was that app for a while from Cornell I mean, I think the app probably still exists. I think I use their website to determine it Yeah, just the odd I think I know there's an Audubon app that does that too, okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah because I was hoping to upload a picture and look but I just had to describe it Look like a blue Robin turns out to be an Eastern bluebird for those curious. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was called Merlin or something I don't know if it's I don't know if it actually exists anymore Yeah, yeah, anyway Merlin bird ID. Yeah, maybe it does Cornell lab. Yep. There it is. All right. I'll put that in the We're all over the place today, but That's fine Shall we talk about Alan in some yeah male and links? Yeah, so this this is this is a good one because you know male got all fancy and You know when you put a link in there basically it wants to turn it into this, you know beautiful Preview image thing and you've got that feature in there, and I don't know when this was added and Alan says and maybe it was added Inventure, I don't remember when it was added either Alan He says because of that he likes to just send the plain text link So he would be constantly clicking on the little arrow and selecting convert plain text link Yeah, and do in that thing, but he says actually there's a there's a better way and he says he's a little slow I don't think you're slow Alan. I think a lot of people probably missed this so same Yeah, he says I figured out you can change the default behavior to show the plain link by unchecking the option in male settings Imposing add link previews. So just turn that off and now you'll have always plain text links And I would assume or hope you could probably right click on that and then Flip it back the other way man. Yeah, rather than kind of switch the behavior I would guess but I haven't tried that yet. Oh, yeah, it does make sense that yeah You're setting the default and so the alternate becomes the other I would hope but one would just that out right now But when Alan sent that he said if any if it's even possible for anyone to be slower than me I just replied with an avatar with the hand up Yeah, we all miss these things it's impossible for any one of us certainly it's impossible for me I don't mean to speak for everybody But it's impossible for me to like even remember all the things we talked about on the show I you know, there's there's times where it's like. Oh, yeah Now that you say that again, it sounds familiar, but mmm. Yeah. Yeah, it's like so I Just just checked it. Yes There is a little down arrow that comes up next to the Lincoln mail and you can go show pew preview Now, yeah, you can switch it back and forth But yeah, that reminds me Allison also often says how many times she's going to look up how to do something and finds her own Yeah, oh Yeah, yeah, you go to Google. I know how to do that once. Oh, yeah, there's my show notes. There's that's me Yeah, yep, yeah, the worst is when I'm having trouble with something and I go to look it up And I find an article that I wrote like a TMO or whatever years ago. It's like if it Like I I need the I need the article that's better than this I don't Helpful to me. Yeah, I need I need the what I need something that works not something I did the fifth edition of this article Yeah, yeah, exactly. How come they you know, they've had this site for two years. How come they have an update in it? Yeah, so yeah alright Andrew I think Technically that is correct. In fact, I believe Today or was it yesterday Was the anniversary of when we launched Mac observer I think it's well, we're recording this on the 29th of December and so I I'm pretty sure that that's the That it was the 29th. I don't know why I don't have this on my calendar anymore, but but yeah, and And it turns out that was the day that we announced the the sale to it just it just worked out that oddly that way anyway I Andrew shares that iOS 17 to add some new widgets to the iPhone and He says for example, there is now a very useful digital watch face as opposed to analog and And it it has like the time and in big numbers and second hand It sort of goes around the square rounded square bezel It says but it's worth flicking through all of them. There are some other new additions So if you are once you are up to iOS 17 to and I highly recommend you do that There's some security updates in there, too, then go ahead and and Check those out. Do you guys use widgets a lot on your phones? No, I'm being honest. I mean I have I have them I have a few I mean, I guess I have a couple on the phone that the one I use the most is just a photo one Mm-hmm, you know surfaces Yeah photos and I have that on my home screen because it's fun to get it Yeah, I was usually like when good ones come up and share them with my family or text them It's good for memories and stuff like that. That's probably my favorite one, but I guess I kind of do Now I take it back. I'm thinking about it because I also have the carrot weather widget on my home screen I was gonna say I used I use the arrow weather and so that gives me the aviation Yep, whether for a given airport, which I recently found out for all you pilots in the audience is Really cool. It's not only there. It's on my watch And so when I tap an airport you can scroll down to the frequencies for tower and ground and Really, yeah, that's kind of handy. It really is When you're flying along and you're going along on the ground and you forget that they're already in your GPS too. Oh I use I use carrot weather because I like the verbal abuse Yes. Yes carrot weather is is good, especially when the weather is not Pleasant out it gives you some it gives you someone to commiserate with if you go. Yeah Also in Iowa 17 to lock tutor notes that You know those annoying spin dials you have to use in the calendar on your phone to set the start and end times Lock tutor says I just installed 17 to and found that if you tap on the time It gives you a pop-up keyboard to enter the hours and minutes, which is much faster I wonder where else this feature might appear. I know we've had other like granular ways of doing this But I don't think there's ever been a keypad before I think this is new for 17 to so That's that's nice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that is new. It's about time. Yeah, right. Yeah Yeah, and even if it's not it's new. Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah pun acknowledged. Yep Even if it's not new like it's good to talk about these things because I didn't know that this was there Yep Yipper Bruce has a Timely tip for us. He says a number of years ago Apple introduced the ability to purchase Apple care on an annual basis. Yep Our Apple care plus I guess however when I purchased my M1 Mac mini I paid for the old-school multi-year subscription earlier this month I got an email stating that my Apple care plus subscription would be expiring shortly I figured that since I'd purchased the fixed term plan I would soon be on my own Several days later I was surprised when I saw an alert that I had until the end of this month to renew my Apple care Subscription, so I immediately took advantage of that offer and now I am good on that Mac through 2024 He says have a happy new year and remember don't get caught without Apple care. Yeah I am not an extended warranty person in general However Apple care and now Apple care plus are kind of the exceptions to that rule in my world It has paid off many times. I think Same Yeah And I know like an extended warranty is is just a profit center for the company's offering it like I I know They wouldn't offer, right? Correct. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like I know that the the law of Averages and and everything says that It's not worth it. However in this case. I really kind of find that That it is so I don't know I don't know you you Adam. You're in you're an Apple care person as well. I I presume Yeah, the the you know this new option and I generally take the new option to do the you know month to month now Especially with like iPhones and iPads and stuff like that. Um, yeah But you know now I have to start thinking about because I have some older older devices And this was the first year I didn't update my iPhone I would imagine there's a law of diminishing returns at some point. So I have to start thinking about that I think yeah, we have to do the person if I have three years if I'm three years into that or four years I have a device that's four years old. I'm probably at the point where if it breaks I'm just going to replace it. So why am I paying for Apple care at that? Yeah, right. So it's like there's a cutoff somewhere. Yeah, we put it on our Macs But we do not put it on our iPhones. It's expensive on the iPhone and we've found You know and we do kind of rotate iPhones through the family And I always just keep the most recent one I sell off, you know, so if there's four of us that that are using phones I keep five and That's cheaper for me than paying for Apple care on all of them. And if somebody's phone You know suffers the event. It's going to happen. It has not yet happened and you know, right? I'll knock on some wood there, but um It you know, it's going to happen at some point where somebody's phone just gets destroyed and then it's like, okay Well, now you use the spare and even replacing the phone at this point would Be less than having paid for it over the years So so I guess I've proved what grumpy in the chat said about Apple care and extended warranties in general, which is the house always wins, which is correct You know, it's like, of course We had the biggest next week. That's right. Yeah, that's right And I hate to say this but you know, if you do have a problem The the other thing that apple care gives you that you don't get with a lot of other plans, right? Is usually with an extended warranty plan. There's some sort of mail in or you know, obscure you're not going to get ahold of a person thing Apple care if you have it and you call up apple, they will help you if you don't You know, maybe less helpful. Yes And I hate to say that. I mean it shouldn't be that way but That's reality it you I agree with you but that that is the reality you get more than just the I I broke it and the the repair is covered under warranty. You you actually get support with it too, which yeah, it's a smart they They're not fools over there in Cupertino. It turns out It's like they've done this before it's like they've done this It's like they've survived many many many opportunities for the company to go under So many that you might think it's not an accident anymore. So, right? Yeah, yeah Uh, I want to take a minute and talk about our sponsor here, which is uh, linkedin at linkedinjobs at linkedin.com MGG, right? 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I believe the feet gap The day this is jp calling query I use bluetooth speakers for my television sets Some are marshal some are bows Even at one time I had an apple device But my question is are there any, uh, factory devices that come to me that are not Uh, pre-ordained to compensate for audio quality And thereby being so basic In their uh, in their playback. I've noticed all of these things Just muffle the crap out of everything because You know the old mp3 days That's what manufacturers did to help make music sound better when it went to streaming And people were ripping cds and having compressed music So, uh, but I find it impossible to uh, sometimes Hear the dialogue Well because the uh, you know the stereo pairs that are being Uh simulated through the speaker are always boomy and bassy And uh, and often muffle the dialogue track. So I often have to unplug the, uh Uh device and just go with the television speakers Which offer me, uh, you know a crisper higher end even though I really don't want to do that so, um I just wonder is there are are there any Bluetooth speakers that exist today that do not Uh purposely compensate for you for an old, uh Audio quality system, you know from back when People were ripping cds and listening to mp3s now that we have such high quality audio files I just wonder I'm just dying. I wish I had the ability to like crank the bass down when I'm especially when I'm watching a football game All right adam you want to uh, you want to kick us off with this? I mean Yeah, I I don't I don't generally use bluetooth speakers for a lot of this these reasons. I mean My solution for this years ago was to just Fight the bullet and buy a sonos It's there's that it's been wonderful. I mean it was like a simple setup You know set it and forget it It's got you walk right that feature you walk around the room I forget what it's called right now or You know analyzes your room and it tunes all your audio for you and they have also a great feature in the app for One reducing loud sounds and then two enhancing voice dialogue, which works great So that solved a lot of the problems from from this perspective How about you p you got any thoughts on this? I was going to say I thought I had the most expensive solution But adam you beat me. Yeah with that But boy is it amazing. I will give him that so Yeah, I actually have a problem. Yeah Um, I I actually have a partial solution. It isn't bluetooth But it does have the eighth inch audio jack and or the optical Okay input and it's they're available at sound fun dot net and I first saw this speaker And I thought it was out of production because I was looking for it and the speaker I first saw And they sent us a demo unit last year I first saw it at ces and we were in the big hall with Dozens of dozens hundreds of people around if not thousands of people around and so the low din made it very difficult to hear anything and so what they did was they put a Uh A dialogue on and you could hear the speaker was Making noise you could hear somebody was talking but That was it and then they put this piece of uh, I think it was plastic and they bent it at a 90 degree angle Away from the speaker and the dialogue Magically came in loud and clear crisp high end. I was like, oh my gosh that that shouldn't work. It was like real live magic and Now they've done what appears to be the their latest mirai speaker on their website is It appears to be two of those laying on their side. So now I think it's stereo and it really is The most incredible if you haven't heard one of these I don't know how to explain it It is for particularly for people who are hard of hearing I have a difficult time hearing if there's any background noise people talking in the kitchen I can't hear dialogue on the tv with those The it it brings the dialogue very crisp and clear right to you and uh, and right now on their website soundfund.net It's 20 off on the top right corner if you click on that and then I was sitting there looking at it this morning And it came up and said, hey, if you give us your email you can get it at 30 off. So instead of 299, it's uh, 209 for for one of these speakers. Wow, uh, if if you are Someone who suffers from tinnitus tinnitus. However, you choose to pronounce it like I do Man, let me tell you that is an amazing Solution to this so while not cheap and not bluetooth. It is a it is a dialogue enhancing speaker That sounds amazing He how much did they how much did they run did you say I missed it if you didn't regular prices 299 And right now on soundfund.net. There's a thing up in the corner says buy now 20 off And then while I was sitting there looking at it after I had clicked on that it came up and said Hey, give us your email. We'll give you another 10 off. So you can get it as low as 209 Right now on soundfund.net. Yeah Yeah, I mean the other thing I was gonna say is like if you want to there's a couple other cheaper solutions I mean apple tv has that enhanced dialogue feature and I know that's supported with home pods Yeah And I think just any speakers that you can pair with your apple tv, you know Get connected to your apple tv, but There's specifically home pods But then the super cheap solution that I use most of time and my daughter hates this is I turn on close catching right That's interesting that your your daughter Doesn't Use closed captioning. I I find my kids Will often use it to have it on and you know the one thing you can do If you're watching something through your apple tv Is you can press the button on the remote and ask the s lady Right, what did they say and it will rewind you 10 seconds Play the last bit of dialogue Show the closed captions For that 10 seconds and then they go away. Yeah, which is That's a great tip another jam Dave, right? You didn't know that one. Yeah, that's that's been a feature for a while It's yeah, it's pretty nice. I can't tell you how many times I screwed up and hit the wrong button and completely backed out of the Show when I was just trying to back up for 10 seconds No, just hit the little the you know the s button on the on the remote and ask What are they because you don't even have to say the the lady's name because you've already triggered the thing and you say What they say and it jumps back and I've noticed it will jump back like if there's been a pause Like if there's a line set and then there's you know a pregnant pause or something Usually during which we as the family are asking each other. Wait, what did they say? What did they say? And it will rewind back to the last bit of dialogue like it's it's smart enough to to know Yeah, it's it's pretty good and it works with plex like it's not just limited to Things that are you know through apple tv plus or whatever So I think I think I've had it work with the netflix app like yeah, I know it's it's great um I I agree that home pod or sonos Would be the right answer here if You know jp's using an apple tv. I did want to address a uh sort of a foundational inaccuracy in the the I want to reject the premise here of of jp's statements about bluetooth Speakers being built to compensate for compressed audio Because of mp3s bluetooth speakers are built to deal with compressed audio But it's not because we used to use mp3s Using uncompressed audio now doesn't change this because bluetooth Doesn't have enough bandwidth to send uncompressed audio. So anytime you're using bluetooth You are hearing sound That it has been compressed digitally now. There are some fantastic codecs out there That really help kind of keep things and and apples got you know their own aac codec That that does really well and other manufacturers can support it apt x is another one that does really well So like there's some there's there's a lot of smarts in these codecs But you are still if you're using bluetooth you are hearing compressed audio Whether you whether you're sending it from a compressed source or not that said Jp you also mentioned that one of the speakers that you were using is a bows bows Their whole sound signature is about low end, right? Like it's you know, it's it's it's um You know the joke was you know all highs all lows must be bows um The They kind of tuned their speakers that way. So it's possible that whatever you're using Has been sort of overtuned on the low end I've had good luck with jbls Like the the flip speakers. They're little, you know pill shaped bluetooth speakers. I've had good luck with sonos is uh, rome and move speakers, which are wireless both wi-fi and bluetooth and they're battery powered so that might be a way to go and they're both Airplay capable Which will give you the ability to have uncompressed sound because it's going over wi-fi not bluetooth So You might be better even if that even if a you know a sonos rome or whatever is the only sonos speaker you have You like you might be fine with it. And I I didn't play this part of jp's thing. He says he's not a soundbar person uh I would argue that maybe you are like everything else you said in your comment Makes me think that you want to become a soundbar person because They are engineered For exactly what you're talking about and like adam said the sonos soundbars and they're not the only ones But you know many soundbars including sonos Have a feature where you can turn it, you know on enhance the diet the clarity of the dialogue or Decrease the bass or both, you know, so like I would I would I would really I would advise checking out soundbars even though you think you're not a soundbar person Hey one last And a question and a comment is one last idea is if you're watching it alone And you have the apple tv you can use the airpods You can use two pairs of airpods though now, right? Can't correct. Yeah, okay. Yep And that's pretty amazing. I watched a before Sonos had added Atmos sound For apple tv um I it was one of my it was like the first south by southwest that that was like, you know Semi post covet lockdowns where some of it happened online and some of it happened in person I watched a movie. I forget the name of it. I know I talked about it on the show but it was a movie about This whole Show that you could go see where you would wear headphones and like hear sounds and the movie was built in you know spatial audio and I was able to watch it in my living room with airpods in and get the full spatial audio thing going. It was really actually Very cool. Yeah, yeah so Another thing with airpods that I thought about just now was You know, it has a couple of those modes where you can I think through accessibility set them up basically like hearing aids and use live listening so You might be able to play around with that and see if you can get better sound through that and I know Like in my case, I even did because I have tonight is to Pete um You can get an audiogram app or you can actually take an audiogram with your airpods Get that profile and add it to your airpods so that they're fine tuned for your hearing and your range very nice Yeah, and then the other feature that I know that is uh, I think live listen but then there's the other one where you can use an iphone as a listening device so you could put your iphone closer to your bluetooth speaker And then oh, yeah that pick up the sound and transmit that to your airpods. I don't know how that would sound It might not sound great, but yeah, right. You might be over here voices better Few options with airpods. Yeah, one other thing i'll throw out there is With bluetooth because of the compression You are adding latency. You're a delay to the system and and you know, even the best bluetooth is still going to be You know over a hundred milliseconds probably closer to 200 milliseconds and one second is a thousand milliseconds So a 20th of a second Doesn't seem like a lot or sorry 20 percent of a second one fifth of a second doesn't seem like a lot But it kind of is Uh, and you'll notice a a gap between when people's mouths move And when you hear the dialogue Not a big deal for a sporting event when you're where you're rarely seeing the announcers You know on video and so that that you know, one fifth of a second doesn't really matter, but But yeah, just bear that in mind, you know as you're kind of doing this the apple tv will compensate for that The sonos stuff will compensate for it, but but that's all doing it with Wi-Fi and hdmi so it's a much tighter It's pretty phenomenal how much number crunching is going on on the fly when you think oh, yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah all right Let's go to mike mike told me about a feature that i told us about a feature that i didn't Really knew no existed Yeah, he says um I recently came across this new feature in i message called contact key verification And it's it seems like it's part of seven ios 17 to mac os 10.2 Sorry macOS 14.2 watch os 10.2 and the idea is that it adds a layer of security and identity confirmation So that the person that you are i messaging with Is the that you think you're i messaging with is actually the person you're i messaging with and I haven't been able to turn this on because I have one ipad that runs an old version of mac os that my apple id is signed into ipad os sorry that my apple id is signed into but um You you turn this on and It it does some Verification sort of automatically, but then you can also Get together with someone and share and compare The unique id numbers and say yeah, okay that person that's the id that i know of as pilot pete great I you know let me know if when i'm talking to pilot pete It's not that kind of like the old key signing parties that we had with you know open pgp back in the days but um Have either of you guys are you like like this was new to me? I it you know it's totally new to me Yeah, yeah Yeah, not not for messages. I mean I used I used to with email do the the whole pgp. Yes. Yeah, that's right thing right Yeah, I think I've got sounds very similar to expire in about 10 or 12 years, but Yeah, i'm guessing a lot of this was added Because of all the nation state hacking that was going on of like journalists and stuff like that. Yeah fair Yeah, right yet to turn this on you go into settings or system settings on your mac You go into your you know iCloud apple id stuff by tapping on your name And then scroll down and below everything Is contact key verification and and that's where you can enable this so it's yeah That's nice. Let's I yeah, it's cool. Yeah, I'm I'm curious to hear from folks who have used it because I obviously I have not yet and I don't know when I will bring myself to to do that Because I really kind of like my iPad being able to sync other things even though it can't run iOS 17, but It's it's one that I use on stage for like different things so yeah Yeah, interesting stuff. Yeah Yep seems fascinating Yeah, well, we've got another question harby from charm new york wrote in and he wrote hi dav pete and adam I've been playing around with the new journal app that came with 17.2 I have no problem writing entries But one thing that I would like to do and can't figure out how or if it's even possible Are the things that you write in your journal searchable for instance Suppose I remember I wrote something about an event I was at during one of my trips, but don't remember which one Is there a way to search the whole journal? Using the keyword of the event's name knowing that it is in one of the texts that I wrote If that is not a feature of the journal then it should be To quote the erstwhile co-host of the mac geek app john f brawn No I'm just saying he's right. It should be you can't do it Yeah, now so I in theory There should be something here that works and When I saw this email, I went and immediately tried this and I don't know if it's just a Indexing thing I hadn't used the journal app yet. So I went in and I wrote I opened the journal app I wrote a journal entry I like you Pete no search inside the journal app none of the hidden, you know Pull down and there's a magic search box hidden under the Under the top and I found that right nothing there but in theory Every app on your iphone has the ability or potential to be searchable So spotlight because if you go it if you go in exactly if you go into settings Syrian search, right? You have the full app list If you tap on any one of those apps you get a ton of different options. So there's the option to Make the app surface when you're like searching for apps. You can actually turn that off People might not know this right you can say Don't have this app show up when I search it here. One of the options is search the apps content So you would think that if it was searching the apps the content inside the app Which there is a setting for the journal app that that would make it Hop up in that search I turned it on it didn't seem to work for me I searched specifically for the title of one of my journal posts and it didn't come up But it might have been indexing I haven't had a chance to go back and try it again That or my other thought on the why that may not work is the journal is supposed to be something that's Private private. So yeah, they do password protect it, right? You can't Password on it to protect it. So I don't know I don't yet have a password on my journal and uh, I am looking for the I am searching for text that is in the one journal entry that I put in there so far And it has been in there for a week And it also does not come up. So I I think pete you're spot on that the journal even though It says it in the you can like turn it on and expose it It does not expose itself which kind of makes sense from a privacy Yeah, that's a nice feature request for the journal within the app itself. There should be a searchable Yes within the app itself, but Most of that is fueled by spotlight like apps that take advantage that that show you search Using the spotlight database just narrowed down filtered down by the results for that app So if the journal data is not being put into spotlight at all, they would have to write a bespoke Search feature for journal inside the app. Yeah inside the app that was Self-contained not terribly difficult mind you like Like for for a company that already has like they would just need to like take some of that code and say, okay Well, build a separate index and do it this way. So right. Yeah, there's some pretty smart coders over there I bet they could figure it out. I'm getting I'm guessing I'm guessing Yeah, and I bet he's not the first one to ask them for it Yeah, yeah, send it in feed. What's it apple.com slash feedback or whatever it is. So yeah Yeah, but that that a series search thing is good to know about I wish there was a way to more globally Set the options in there because basically every app Do I think is on by default and you have to go app by app and turn things off? But I like to turn a lot of things off because there's like a lot of apps like I don't care To get contents results from, you know, some game that I Or whatever like I don't even know if it would ever surface anything or like There's a lot of apps that I just don't want showing up when I'm searching for apps because I just don't care I don't use them frequently enough. Yeah, right, you know, I'll go in and go to the the regular app search screen and pull it up that way, but You can declutter your series search by going through all those apps and messing with all those settings that are in there Yep Yep, and I would think in the in the meantime if you if that's something that's essential to you I'd use a separate folder and notes and make my journal entries in there And that would be searchable Yeah Yeah, the journal apps really nice really nice though because it does, you know surface photos and music and Make recommendations and suggestions and it's pretty neat It is a cool app. Yeah. Yep. No doubt about it. Yep. Yeah All right Jean has a question for us And he says, uh, I am in the head Exploding process of starting to get some smart devices for my house I wondered if you might be able to give some advice as to where or what to start with Perhaps an older episode or something else So I throw this out to us Because I know we all I mean we've talked about it in this episode haphazardly Right, you know where Is a good place for one to begin with smart home adam you want to you want to start with this Get one of those little simple plug-in things for like one lamp or one device You know and mess around with that like That's a really simple place to start and get familiar with how home kit works and stuff like that and it Doesn't cost a lot. You think you can get these things for like probably 20 bucks now. I would guess I haven't gone out to look for them Um, when I did my house Uh, I started with or another one would just be a smart bulb Uh, that has those features built in I They're more expensive, but I really liked the lifex bulb. So I used a lot of those I still have a bunch of them that I haven't even plugged back in Um, they have some great features, but I know prices have come down on that too So get one simple device like I would start with a light either the little lamp plug-in switch where you plug in a thing Or just a a bulb a simple smart bulb And yep play around with those, you know, and then It it will take off from there. You'll want more and more things I feel like You need a killer app For yourself like not just something that you're gonna Play with But something that that's gonna have a meaningful impact on your life because for me I had all kinds of stuff, you know people would send us things or I would buy things and it was like Oh, yeah, look I can turn on the christmas tree with my thing and it's like, okay Well, that's cool. It's you know three weeks of the year or something It wasn't until I bought a set and this was you know 100 years ago So it was it was 200 dollars to buy a set of four Phillips hue bulbs. Yep Uh now they're much less expensive than that any kind of smart bulbs And I put them all outside, which you're not supposed to do with the Phillips bulbs I can tell you this was 100 years ago. The bulbs all still work again knock on wood um, but Just setting them up So that the lights in my you know on the way front door and my driveway Came on its sunset and went off at midnight every night Was a game changer Like we didn't have to think oh, yeah, it's dark. You got to go turn on the light or oh before bed You got to turn off the light or even better. We've been out all day. It got dark We come home and the freaking driveway is you know dark And now it lights up like it does every night. And so that for me was The the the light bulb moment if you will the right where it was like, oh, okay, wait a minute I get this now I see and and then it was like all right. I want other things I want to eliminate this friction in my life by doing this with other things So yes, there are still some things that I have that are just sort of cool and geeky But I think it's important to find a thing and and your example of a light bulb out of them I think is a great one because there are those lights that that we just sort of naturally turn on and turn off at at routine times Save yourself the routine. So yeah, you know Yeah, I I would agree with that too because when I I did my lights, that was the other nice thing is like Yeah, I'm getting older and inevitably, you know, you you'd head to bed and then you Kind of think oh did I turn off all the lights or not? Yeah, you could just be like s lady Go to bed. I think I had an automation that was like go to bed and it just turned everything off in one statement Amazing Yeah, so in our discord chat grumpy mic suggests the morass outlets He's stating that, uh, you know, that's a great way to start things to control regular plug-in lights So you don't even his smart smart bulb. Sure outlet and control that I started with the hue bulbs as well and absolutely love them. We have them in I think four or five rooms in the house and my son loves it He you know The colors and the dim settings and one of the actually one of the really nice things in in the master bedroom We have one and I can whisper into my watch at if I have to get up at 3 30 3 45 in the morning I'll whisper into my watch Turn on the master bedroom light to 10 percent And it gives me just enough light to get up and not stub my toe, but it's not so bright that it wakes my wife up And yeah, huh And so, um, yeah, so that's that's how I use the lights The other two things that I've got that I have really liked over the years Uh, we have a town home in Pensacola. I have one of the nest thermostats And boy is that great. I can set the the Temperature in that town home and I leave it in a wide range So it isn't trying to keep it super cool in the summer or super warm in the winter But if I know someone's coming ahead of time, I can turn it up So when they get there, it's comfortable temperature Uh, when people leave and we have somebody come in to clean it before anyone else comes in I can set the temperature down so that the lady that cleans the place isn't doing it in 90 degree heat Yeah, and and then but when she leaves, I don't have to say don't forget to turn the thermostat down I can reset it to our away mode and go from there And the other thing that we have is a slage deadbolt Yep, and I can you can put in codes. So I have family members. They have their own codes to that door lock They can put their codes in to let them in let them out and I can control add codes remove codes remotely And that that's also a really nice feature um And because it Here was the other cool thing. We got a real hardware store right down the street from there. I was able to take the key from the doorknob, which was also a slaged doorknob and say Make it work in the deadbolt before I install it. So I've got one key that works all the externals on on that town hall All right, so folks clearly like this is this is the beginning of this conversation because I I think finding the entry point And it's going to be different for each of us But finding that entry point is is going to be the key if you're not already on smart home And even if you are like, you know, if you were on lights like me and then heard Pete talking about the smart locks It's like, oh, wait a minute. That's actually kind of cool So I would love for each of you to write in feedback at mackeygab.com And tell us what was your entry point to this and we will obviously share that in future episodes Hold on where you want a great day feedback at mackeygab.com Yep, he said feedback at mackeygab.com. He did. That's right We I'll go ahead adam I just have one one other little thing I think again because this is like where to start out kind of question and I know we've mentioned a couple other devices I think this is less of an issue now. I've kind of not Drove back into the whole home automation thing But I mean if you're an apple person I would at first at first Very much try to stick to home kit and home kit compatible devices It's better you can do the home bridge thing and all that other stuff to get other devices that are not And I think there's with thread and all the other things that have come out since there's war support and compatibility, but I would try to stay in that You know It's a home kit device world if you're an apple person because it's just going to make your life easier at first And then you won't have to do a lot of the geekery That's fair. Yeah limit the friction To start out. I like that advice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. 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And we've got links in the show notes, of course for All of these sponsors and Again, our sincere thanks for being able to make this trip work and and being able to bring you folks all the coverage that That we're going to be able to do pete and I'll be out there adam will be manning the fort back at uh Back in the snowy tundra And uh, yeah, you'll become mackey gabby east instead of west. That's right. That's right. Yep. Absolutely all right, let's uh So thank you to all of our our sponsors. It really it makes a huge difference Pete you want to You want to start off cool stuff found for this episode? Yeah, so I had uh seen years ago You don't know jack a game. Oh, yeah game. That was fun You know and I knew they had expanded some well, of course My sister was here and my nephews were here for Christmas and my my daughter's home from college and my son's here And the other night after uh christmas we sat around and we played some jack box games At jackboxgames.com It's really cool. You once you have the game on your computer. You uh, at least the how we did it my nephew Did an airplay to the tv And then we all go to I it tells you what website to go to and what code to enter and we all play from our smartphones of trivia Quip lash where it'll ask a question and you have to put in a silly answer and the person with the most votes For the silliest answer winds up winning It what a fun way to spend a few hours with family just laughing our butts off So jackboxgames.com that was a great way to spend an evening And I think they have an app for the apple tv like I I don't think you even needed to airplay Oh, even better. Okay. Yeah, all right I've never I played you don't know jack. I I Somehow made it through covid lockdowns without using it without ever playing jackbox games And i'm not quite sure how that happened right, but uh, if you're you're a game playing household adam. Have you played? Oh, yeah, yeah, okay. This is great too, especially You know over the holidays when people are getting together and stuff like that. It's super super fun We also do it a lot at conferences because you can have everybody just on a device In ipad an iphone or a computer and just sit around in a circle and and play these games too. I mean I played this a lot with our friend Barry. Oh, yeah many many times Yeah, and there's a bunch of different packs. Um that you can get I'd like the Just the original jackbox party pack, which has you don't know jack A thing called draw full, which is kind of like a Pictionary sort of game where you like draw things and then Fibbage is another great game where basically they give you A obscure trivia fact with like one piece of information left out And then what everybody does is they try to fill in that piece of information And you're trying to fool the others into thinking that your answer is the correct truthful answer That's fun. Yeah, yeah Oh, yeah Huh, that's another great one. But yeah quick lash Fibbage and uh, you don't know jack or probably my favorite ones They have a ton of other stuff a lot of them. I haven't played like they add new things all the time But I would definitely recommend any one of those to start out with and then you can kind of expand out from there cool cool awesome You mentioning Barry reminded me that Barry is And and we'll always have the distinction of being our First and because he continues therefore longest running premium Supporter here at Mackie keb and I would be remiss if I did not thank Barry for his ten dollar contribution in the last couple of weeks It's been a couple of weeks since we've thanked our premium supporters So thank you Barry for your ten dollar contribution and also ten dollar contributions from Warren in Gloucester Uh, Brian in Southbury Santiago in Palm City John in Wake Forest Kevin in Edison Michael in Robbins Matthew in forked river bill in uh, I think he's got an apo box Uh, Jeff in Chester sin James in amity harbour joseph in marietta paul in laurenceville Steven in plainfield jonathan in planesboro gary in babelon John in vienna. 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Thanks to bob and lapesh for your 15 dollar contribution And thanks to the following for your 25 dollar contributions richard in melbourne Kenneth in new lambton dug in rochester curt in princeton Joe in kingsley Antonio and bret in lands unknown phil in santa fe Richard in sands point jeffrey in a la magordo I think I got that right john and laverne And wane in coon rapids and berry in delray beach different berry And then thanks to ben and berkeley for a 36 dollar contribution walter in rochester for a 40 dollar contribution and chuck in boulder for a 50 dollar contribution Thanks to all of you for your support if you want to learn more about mackey cab premium It's at mackey cab.com slash premium And I want to take a minute and talk about a cool stuff found that I found that might well I use I I like listening to audible books sometimes driving around in my car What have you and recently I started listening to the book uh by getty lee the the singer and bass player in the band rush And it's been fantastic because he put out a book which has some great pictures in it But the audiobook is read by getty lee and I thought you know I'm into Liberating all of my content like I've paid for these books. They are mine But I want them I want to be able to like listen to them my way not just with the audible app And so I searched a little bit and I found a piece of software called libation At get libation.com and it is meant to liberate your audible library into either m4b Or you can convert them to mp3 if you want And uh, and then those m4b files can be played with lots of different things including apples books and you know At plex it turns out listener mark said I and and this is brilliant. I immediately went and did this mark says I I liberated all my books and then I went And created a separate music library in my plex that I named audiobooks And I just pointed it at the folder of my m4b files And not only does it play them, but it pulled in all the metadata for them from whatever Magic plex does to do that. No, yeah And it it just works great knows that they're audiobooks and it sort of treats them differently and all of those things And then he says I use an app called prologue at prologue.audio and all these things are linked in the show notes, of course, uh for Playing audiobooks from plex like it is a purpose built app to do that so that you've got all the support you need for maintaining your spot in the book and Pointing at the right library and just being the more book experience including carplay support. So that's amazing And then um robster also in our discord chat Suggested open audible Which it does sort of the same thing that libation does Just a little bit differently So you can check all of those out if you want to free your audible library. I love me some open audible In fact, I think I used it as a cool stuff found once a couple years back Once I heard about it. I was like, oh, wait a minute. This might be something Yeah, yeah check with your local laws if you wish before heading down this path I I don't know. Yeah, I'm telling you your content you bought it Use it. Yeah, you know, don't give it away to other people. That's correct. That's not what it's for listen to it on your On my terms. Yes, the dmca man Worst law ever yep Yep, because copyright allows for format shifting but dmca undid all that Because there's encryption. Well, because because it's protected, right? It was the why we couldn't do dvds or You know, that's why you were allowed to make mix tapes back in the day Correct But because you could format shift because it was your content and you bought it But the minute they added protection on it that law said So you could still legally make the copy But it was illegal to break encryption. So Because the encryption key was copyrighted. That's the that was the trick to that right they copyrighted the actual key It was one key used for every dvd It had to be in order for manufacturers to be able to make a dvd player, right work Correct But that key itself was copyrighted and therefore needed to be licensed To someone using it, you know printing a dvd and then also to making yeah, so things don't You could go and like there were t-shirts for sale With that encryption key on them if you really wanted to be a lawbreaker That's funny. Yeah, it was ridiculous. Is it dss john or whatever he was? Yeah, the dss john. Yeah, exactly. You know, you know I forgot about that. That's ridiculous Uh, I think we have time for one more cool stuff found if you if either of you have one Take it if you don't I've got one for us all I think go man All right, it's gonna be me. So rod shared this in the chat and it has in discord And it has been one of the more popular threads that we have in discord. It is the mt 3000 From gl dot inet it's or it's the gl dash mt 3000 pocket sized wi-fi six travel router And what's cool about this is a couple things one it's built to travel with so if you need to bring a router with you to You know your air bnb or whatever you've got it But the other thing is that it has built-in tail scale integration So you can join it to your tail net and be home no matter where you are Which I think is pretty cool Uh, so this that is awesome. Yeah, it's pretty cool and uh, it's available on amazon for Well, it's it's a hundred and ten dollars Minus a twenty five dollar coupon if you want to go down that page and it it's built to work with captive portals In you know public networks or hotels or whatever and you can connect with wi-fi So it it like it's built to be your thing Yeah, exactly like because i'm looking at the back of it the the picture that you have up on Screen for those watching and it's obviously it's cat five cables going it, but if it'll connect via wi-fi too Yes, and that's that's what I am sold network. Correct. Oh That's brilliant. Yep. Because I actually still have one of those little airport expresses that You have to carry around but good luck finding a cat five connection in a hotel room anymore. Yeah, exactly Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm pretty sure from the discussions. I don't have one of these but I'm pretty sure from the discussions That's what it does. We need to get you one of these Pete so you can test this for us. Yeah Yeah, yeah, it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool. I mean last year earlier this year I found out that the ethernet ports and a lot of hotels still work to connect to their Internet you guys are all ready to move. Oh god my Adam lisa almost like i'm lucky to have survived this we got to a hotel in new york And we both had a lot of work to do And but we were there on like a it was right after max stock. In fact, you know, we we I flew to New york, yeah We went to philly to see a couple of fish concerts and then new york to see a couple of fish concerts And when we got to new york We had an airbnb in philly was great. We got to new york. We both had like You know a solid days of of real work to do and we unpacked everything in our hotel room And that's when we realized we were in the corner of the hotel that got almost no wi-fi Like there was no world And so i'm like crap and so i'm like walking around the halls with my laptop finding Which rooms and there was one access point per floor And it was actually one access point per every other floor At the courtyard merry at times square great hotel otherwise perfect location I would stay there again And so I went downstairs and i'm like we got to move and they're like, okay And so we go to other rooms and we're like bouncing around And it's like we find one room that's like, okay It's got like a the couch is kind of messed up and it's like whatever we'll deal And so we pack up all our stuff And I go and open the dresser drawer by the bed to make sure I didn't like put something in there And there's an ethernet cable in there And I have this moment of thought and I'm like wait a minute We like this room the best like other than the wi-fi and I plug in it's like Yep, works perfectly. Yeah. Yep. At least it's like we're staying here, aren't we? I'm like, yep. She's like okay I specifically Recently put a Cat5 cable back in my laptop bag. I didn't have one for forever Yeah, this exact reason because I would get to hotel It would have bad wi-fi and then I'd be like, oh, there's an ethernet port there and I don't have an ethernet cable You know in a lot of cases I'm in places where There's not a best buy around the corner or whatever like I don't like I can't just go get a cable Well, not only was I asked the front desk they might give me Not only was I in Manhattan where I could walk, you know 18 feet in either direction and buy an ethernet cable But I do travel with one and I had at least one with me and just never thought to try it. So That'd be a lesson to me and all of us Thanks for hanging out with us everybody fun stuff indeed. Yeah indeed. So real quick From the there's a nice discussion going on in discord and Grumpy Mike says I love my barrel This is the the the the router thing that we talked about. Yeah. Yeah the ery l says it has all It works with other vpns. He has his set to use with private internet access account And it connects via wi-fi and then Grumpy Mike says my big trick Is to set the wi-fi to the same as my home wi-fi ss id and password And then once the barrel is online your device is connected. I think they're at home You don't need to run around putting all your devices on Oh, that's brilliant. Oh, yeah, I gotta get one of these two. Okay. Yeah, why not, baby Why not just yeah the home wi-fi thing Oh, yeah, I like that Nice. Thanks Grumpy Mike Amazing amazing amazing. Thanks for hanging out with us everybody. It's been a blast as it always is Uh, thanks to all of you for listening. Thanks. Take a minute and share the show with a friend or on your social media or something We would love that It'd be thanks to cash fly for providing all the bandwidth to get the show from us to you Uh, thanks to our sponsor, of course linked in jobs at linkedin.com slash m g g And uh, yeah, happy new year everybody. Thanks for thanks for hanging out with us Yeah, um Adam Happy new year aren't the only three words That we like to say Yeah, three others that maybe come to mind Don't get caught Made Let's go and get caught in Japanese, wasn't it Pete? It was indeed Later