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Karibusana, your cover is number four. Introyako na credential zafu zote. CEO, founder, manager, pastor, zote zgam. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My name is Steven. Stevenson, my name is Jenga. Yes, yes. I'm a youth pastor at father's house. Yeah, I'm a missionary as well. And I'm a businessman. I'm a gospel artist as well. So I have, I have... You have many wings. A lot of wings. I do a lot of things. Yes, yes. Now you're the manager of NI Importers. NI Importers, yes. All right. So we're going to be talking about NI Importers and that the business of importing things into the country. And if it's a good thing, because some people might say it's not good to import, we should be exporting. But I'd like to know why you're coming from? What is your background? My background, I'm raised in an area called Ruiru. Really just around Tikarud. So you've seen Tikarud from a duo carriage to the super house? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Raised by a single mother. We are two, I and my brother. Yeah, he deals, my brother deals with transport. So I was in the same same field with my brother after form four I joined transport. I used to be a makanga. Tikarud? Yes, yes. Taking this sand yakujaenga, yakujaenga yumba from Ukambani to Ghidurai. So I worked there for several years, though it was rough, tough for me. Life on the road is tough. And it's very hard labour. The cash you could be paid on trips. Yeah, the trips you go. As in gina, na kibizana nama vijana na vijika kuley nyuma. At least umoage kaa sandu kuka moja, at least that you get 350 shillings. And then you get the salary, the trip, that is 500 shillings. So in Ipasa'a Kando? Yes. Nasa'a sayo ni kubishana nama vijana aju, kuna area nyuwezi mwaga yomchanga. Kuna ila area yuwezi mwaga yuwezi kuna waluwa, wa sayo wa yuwezi area. So kata telsi kukila maali? Yeah, utakuta. From Serkali? I don't know if you've ever come across those guys wakiyuna kirori kiamchanga wa na kibiana vijika wa na ruka. Yeah, so those areas you cannot work there. So yuwezi takuwa kazi yaku ni donda kufunguwa milango alafunye nyeke, wakimaliza kazi funguwa milango wa lipe. Yeah, so I worked there several years and through music because I'm an artist, I'm a songwriter, so I did a song, I went recorded and then I got this guy who did my video, still in YouTube, but very, very bad quality. So I felt bad because I had paid. Nani lipe saya kuchanga-changa. So I felt bad and I felt like... From kazi yamchanga? Yeah, and he said, but now if these guys are taking us this way, doing poor qualities in them, you've given your best audio. You've saved money. Yeah, and you've saved it. Record the audio, you've saved money to pay the directives. Inungi kakabiz manze kange gro. So I felt bad and I decided that one day I would love to be a director and do good things and do quality stuff. And so I met this guy who decided to manage me because he heard that I have a content in gospel music and so he was not that packaged. Ako na pesa pia. So aka kama kani mimi na takani kusapot. I see vision and I also have a vision. So I want to support you in a way that I can do you free videos. But still the qualities were not that okay. But we worked with him. A point ni naji pata singi kwa ele job yungu yamarori. So tuna chapa. Umarut kanda nae. Akiwa na wedding naa shoot tuna nae. Kikiwa na fanya music video tuna nae minum tuamkono. E li kwa time na fikatu naengia kofisi ya ki edita takini karibia kwa zata kini land. But nili kwa naengia tuna angaliya sa zengini na kanya gia. Zengini naenda kwa laptopia kena chikwa tutorials. Naenda home. Lili kwa na ka desktop kali kwa kana hang. So na chapa-chapa sa zengini na kaki kwa manalala subui. Kali kwa ukita kakawashia utakawashia 2 hours before you work with it. So kikiwa muka. So kikwa muka sabora ashia. Ya, and that is how I came to learn videography. One day we got a contract here in Muhindi. It was a wedding. And the wedding goes for about one week. We had camping there. I met these guys from Canada, different guys from different areas. And they came and then these guys had a big heart of helping. And so they trained me. I got one who trained me in videography. And that is how it became a video director. Wow. So from there I started my company. Called Unlimited Films from scratch. So Unlimited Films was birthed off a coincidence? Ya, ya, ya. But now kazi zengini li kwa na pattern isa mazishi. Sanasana. Sanasana. To mazishi 5,000. Ivoivo. Doaries, those events for doary weddings. And then now I'm doing even music videos. All right. How much capital did you invest the first time in terms of getting equipment for this? Equipments I was hiring. You were hiring? So kipatiao 5,000 and you are 2,500 isa nende kwa equipment. And that was a good learning lesson because now today I'm importing those equipments. And because now you see these big directors, most of them they don't have equipment. Some of them they leave hands to mouth and all the pwa na kula. When they are doing free jobs, at least they get a name. So they don't have equipment. So I learnt and I decided now I would be doing imports. And then I'd be hiring these equipments. Which is our topic of the day. But before we got into that importation part, so elifika point ukaba equipment ya kwa? What was the first thing that you bought? Nili, I bought a Canon camera. It was not of good quality, but that was a stand. Ya, it was just a good start because I could do like some few things with it. And I was doing free jobs in markets and brands. But I had strategy in my mind and I had vision that one day I'll be in a position to have these and these. I used to do research of the best quality cameras and all that. So I knew that one day I'll be in a position to get them. So right now you have your own cameras? Ya, ya, ya. That you use for your film company. And you have equipment that you use to hire how to be people? What are some of the equipment we can get from as a director? I have drone, nice cameras, the 4k cameras, have dolies, lightings. Right. And you have a warehouse that you store all these things? Ya, ya, ya, ya. They sense it in short. They tell it with a dream and now you have all these equipment. Alright, so after you got your own equipment you started hiring out equipment from time to time? Ya, ya, ya. At what point did you start importing and how did you get into importation? Because there are so many laws that govern the field of importation. From line sessing, from clearing and forwarding, from the fees that you need to pay, to the insurance that you need to pay, to the certifications that you need to get from the other country. A young man like you, na joriswa lume patasana, you are a young man like you. How did you go about all this to get into importation, to get to this point that you're here? One thing in life is the capacity and the capability. Everybody is looking for that person who is capable of doing something. Money is not an issue. When you show up and you show people that there is something that is in you that you can do better and best, everybody is interested in making money from someone. And so if I can say this, there are people there outside who really waited to see someone who can come up with an idea. We all created ideas. When I can quote a scripture that says... Yes, first and foremost. ...as he is, so we are. So when God is the creator and the owner of the universe, that means that he has everything. And so when we are told that we are like him, that means that we have everything that we need. And so... There's a God in us. Yes, yes. We just need to exclude it. And again, as scripture says that as a man thinks he is, if you think you are poor, then absolutely you are poor. If you think that you will reach in your mind, you will reach because you have everything, you have all that it takes for you to become a great person. And so I knew that around me there are people who have money. And one of them was one of my aunt who is in abroad. And when I look at the background of my family, we have been... Our family has been in that place whereby you can say, puvati is real. Puvati is you. Yes, yes. You guys have struggled. Yes, yes. I've struggled even in the streets when I was young. I've walked in the streets, nimi uza ma chuma, nimi okota, nimi kata kata fenzi, yama o yawase, niki zaga ma chuma. So I know what is to struggle and I know what is to lack and what needs to have. And so I knew that if these people, if they see me rising up, rising up and they see that there is something that I'm doing, they see that at least I've made a profile. They can see and they can... I can be a role model to someone. Even if I approach anybody from my family or from friends from the outside, I can gain anything that I want. And so one thing is that people fear trying. But the minute you raise your standard and you make your profile become so positive towards people's eyes, you can achieve anything. So image is very important. Image is very important. So I had to approach one of my aunt who is in state and I told her I know there you're making your life. But still here I'm struggling with some few things that you can help me with. So I think I have some few cash which I never had. But I want you to help me see how we can bring some few stuffs here and do some research. And when I do the selling, I will give you back your money and also give back your interest. So it will not just come the way you give it. It's business. So you're part of the business as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm selling you an idea. So she asked me now what do you want me to give you? I told him I think if we do some household items, it can be good because zile fridge to non-organism chinku. So when it will be in my fridge, it will be in nini, it will be in vitukava and I try selling. But my aim interest was to get some equipment for videography. But I couldn't not go direct because if I go direct, I will not be able to mix it. Because I had tried. So I tried to get some equipment. But I didn't know what to do. So I decided to get some equipment for videography. I wanted to get some equipment for quality and all that. So I knew that if I start with the household items, it can be good. So the first container came in a fridge, a TV. But very nice television, the pioneers and all that. And some of the TVs I sold in churches and clubs because they were very big. So I sold them and I showed the potential. I gave back the money, I never ate the money and it was a trial. It was immediately after I've done that now I could tell her, now I want cameras and I could send some pictures. Even he could send me some links to where I can do place the orders. And then she just goes and picks up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But before she could not do that. So you had to prove yourself. Yes, she became very interested and she sent one of the container which took so long in Crealing because now this was my first import. And I was never familiar with the ways where I can get this where I can get this guy who can do the clearance. So you were thrown in the deep end. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now you know our country is very corrupt. So I never had that money that I can go to a certain office in Mombieshikai kumi. But I had God in me who had first facilitated the idea. So I knew that you God you will lead me as I follow you. So whatever is on that way I know you have cleared and just passed. So I went, it took like about three months to create the container. It was 20 feet. It came, I sold it online. It was not about walking but I had a shop. So I sold it online and sometimes kutamutua na kuitisha kitu na pelikiata kumbeni konman. Like last week I sold a camera. I sent my guy to go and sell a camera. Patalipata, me danganyo, me zungusho, me zungusho. 250,000 kandaivo, camera kandaivo. So they are conmen there outside. I'm trying to follow the case with the CADs because this is something that is happening to many businessmen there outside. And so I sold the container online, the items online and I made good money and I was taken to another level whereby even I could buy a car for delivery. Yes, from the interest that I made. The cash, the extra cash the turnover of the business. Yes, but again I had to approach the banks to give me some loan because I had told auntie that I have some cash. So I had to get around 250,000 to show that I've really, really raised some cash. At least you have some been offered. Yes, but I knew that when these stuffs come in I'll be in a position to pay the loan and again get some interest. But now when the container could take like three months it was like risk taking because now I was afraid. I've been given like few months to pay the loan and now the container is stuck. So I was afraid, a bit afraid. Alright, so to be an importer trying to understand do you have to take a lot of trips to Mombasa and back? No, no, no, like now we're doing shipping. So it is shipping from UK to here and then when it's done clearance here you get one truck to bring the stuffs and then takes back the container. Just that. Just that, yes. So where do you get your stuff in Mombasa? No, no, no, no. The first one I did in Mombasa I've done, this is the second one that I'm clearing this week. The first one it is from Mombasa it came from the port of Mombasa. Direct cleared in Mombasa to Nairobi. Just direct the truck came direct to Kasarali. Comes direct to your house? Yes, yes, so you pay the truck up to here, to and fro coming and going back. Alright. But now it has been eased because of the SGR now you can get them at Mombasa. Alright. So it's easier now to be an importer. What are some of the requirements for an importer like you? What is the first thing the government is going to require from you? I think from the other side they need some documents whereby they have to realise that whatever you're importing is legal and I think from there you need to get the cash and all the carry and all that and you have to pay taxes and all that. I just that. The guy who's doing the clearance is the guy who has a lot of work. You don't have a lot of work. You just need to have money. So you need an agent to clear yourself. Yes, yes, yes. Alright. At this point of clearing and forwarding do we have since you've said we're living in a Khuraq country do you sometimes need to be careful with these guys or it's a very well regulated industry? It depends with your clearance guy how networked he is because now if he knows these offices he'll be in a position to go and talk and say these and these and that but me I've been believing in the power of prayers. Prayer is also very important. Pushing prayer, yeah. Pushing. So it has not been rough on me because when I pray no things are okay. So even when I get a call that it's stuck I tell them no, don't worry by tomorrow things will be okay. And you believe that is this confidence that has brought you this far? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Alright, apart from container kukwama kupuata I know this is something you say a lot of times and it's something conment say a lot of times and you get a lot of backlash for it. Apart from this what are some of the other challenges that you face? Lack of money. Lack of money. Kapito is always you are never going to have enough kapito. Yeah, container is there in Mombasa and then now KRE ask for this the other cabs ask for this then it has took so long so demon rage is waiting for you the storage because the storage is demanded every day you have to pay for storage of the container at the port. So if it takes like I have a container which landed on February up to date it's not yet cleared so you can count every day maybe it's around 4,000 or something so you count from February to now how much is that? So it's a lot of cash. Wow, how do you move from that? That's why you saw the small traders having a strike because they were they were like these guys are demanding a lot and some of us we don't understand what is needed because now we don't know the cartel that is there but me I keep my faith All right. Yeah, I don't talk much but I keep my faith and I tell my guy who is doing clearance you just sort it I know we will get what we want. Wow. So sometimes they might hold your goods for no parent or real reason or they don't tell you the reason but at the end of the day you still have to pay. Yeah, if you're doing clean business you don't need to be afraid God will see you through if you're doing clean business unless you're doing something that has shortcuts then you should not be afraid if you're doing business and you see like the country is corrupt and you don't have money to substitute on the corruption no, don't worry you just keep on doing the good work even if you'll be executed in one way or another but just know that one day it will come to pass that you've succeeded. I love your faith man. And faith plays a huge role in whatever you're doing. What I say is that faith does not make things easy it makes things possible. Makes things possible? Yeah. Yes, fastest there is. I love it so much. I appreciate it so much. So you're a pastor at your local church in Riru? Yeah, I'm a pastor young people. So you lead young people? Yeah, but I'm too much in missions. Too much in missions. Last week I was in Bungoma in the vitations. Where do you get all the time to do God's work and still do your importation business and still run a film company? When you mind God's business God minds your business. Right. So you will just relax God will be working for you. Now that's why I have some people who are working. So I'm just relaxed I just see through the papers what is being done and all that. I just manage that there is the CEO that is God who is in control of everything. So you never call yourself the CEO? Yeah, yeah. So the CEO is the Almighty? Yeah, so I'm just there I just walk out my things the things that I'm too much interest because if you check on my background it's all about God. He's the one who had put it that act of having a talent in me that raised all these things because if it was not music the talent that I had in music maybe I would have not been here. So I have to continue even if I have all that money I have to continue with the assignment. That is preaching the gospel. Preaching the gospel even if it's not through the music through the word itself. One thing I'm interested in not so many people are going to teach our kids or the previous or the generation that is coming about enter pricing and entrepreneurship and doing it yourself. While you go out there on missions and preaching the word is it something you try to instill in these kids as well? You see like when you grow up when you're young you'll be asked what would you like to be when you grow up you will say and then after some years it will change. Yes, it keeps on changing. Class 3 is always doctor pilot yeah doctor pilot and which one? Astronant Nass soldier and then class 6 wanted to be a pilot. You wanted to be a pilot. Lakinika venye kuleyanda iwa masoma ju ni konaapa iwa. But now you can pay your own pilot if you keep on like this. Yes, sometimes I go with playing to minister. Onas kiyomili kwa one day get to kujitu beauty. You see, God's work. Kiyomili kwa kenyomili kwa kiyomili kwa pilota geen gilii fick. But you know, Kuna nazatimu lango kama ya nisa natipa kumitiri ya ni nilidi ya kumu naengili umu lango moji. Sasi lera kiniwa nato niza nato niza angoja pilotu mameha ni mese man kusalime ni kuatakwa kuaime nisu kuweza. Kupu una onatini nila冬i ngili umu lango moji natuketokiamu lango moji. So I'm also like a pilot there. Nde loman and you'll both fly. But back to the matter these kids when you're a kid You say you want to be a pilot, you are telling me something about kids when they are growing up, the ambitions change or their visions or their dreams change over time. Ya, ya, ya, it's because when you're done with the form for, you will find that young people run into music, dancing and that. They have not yet discovered their purpose. When you come to realize your purpose on earth, you'll be in a position to identify your role and you'll be in a position to identify where you will land. Like for example, if today I see like I have an idea of selling eggs, I will go and start. But kido go kido go tashanga o kipata mungina me kaka branch up on eggs. I see we have a party authority. A me kaka branch kido go kido go kaka branch kengine. No, not to branch it out in advance. Wo lu ko na uza na kamkebe, oa me kuji na kale ka, kikituka me gu. So, na discover if you still stay there, all your clients will go there because that one is a bit professional. It's packaged. So, it's in times season, in seasons, things changes. Sita ishi apu, I started with music. I graduated to videography and now I mean importations because now competition in a kuji kwa stef. Una patawase wana kuji wana nuna ideas. But now you have to be very, very consistent and also have the courage because like now the Kokakora Company, there are people who have really tried to reach to that. But now they can't because the person who had the vision in Kokakora there are things that he never shared. Sometimes it's good you stick with your ideas and not everybody will tell. Let until that you bear out that empowerment. Until the flower blooms. Yes, when you have that kiting, let people come ask you where you started. But now also your vision has to grow another vision up on that. You add another vision in that vision. So, you always need to go progressively. Yes, progressively. Be very progressive. Don't stick there. Yes, when you're in comfort zone, that is when people come by passing you, by passing you what wana kupita tunabaki tu ko pali. The last thing you have to do is to come over and ask for top 10 billionaires where you got 20. So, kuna wala washa kupita. So, comfort is a true enemy of business and entrepreneurship. So, you should never be comfortable, progress. Yes, there are two things that are in life. Failure is real and success is real. It's all comes from you. It's real. You can be a failure, you can be... It's your decision. You have the answers that you have. You just need to release yourself or you press yourself. If you press yourself, you'll never come out. But if you release yourself into those places, you need to meet different kind of people. You need to learn, you need to have a role model. You need to have someone you can look upon. Yeah, if today I come and I ask you, whom do you look upon? Nani, nani, nani, nani wukus, inspire. To nafakuni ambiam say interesting. Like now, I have issues with these young people who are doing music today. When you ask them who is your role model, they will tell you someone. But when you look at the life of that person that is their role model, tapata labdame fungu wa kuagojela, ali rap, ali usama dawa. And then you find that these guys, the things that they are doing, zina yandapkukua the same thing because they are corrupt in a way. Because life is spiritual. So, whatever you... Kayo langi jegire kபubiிsumia, na föcznimia kakutigi ramia llin Kimu hormitada muru beingshi wariаю mwaga Kuizu ut battling Nou kARTi hawa za k Follow Iktorku ma traffi ni kama tashifu ju mga lik himi Iktorku b delayed So it comes with Yes, yes, yes, yes So it depends what you listen Your influence, your influence Even your friends, it depends So keep a good bunch of friends around Feed yourself As much as you feed your stomach well Feed your mind well and feed your heart well In fact it reached to a point whereby I could go to those I was telling a friend of mine when I was coming Now I want to enroll to golf clubs Because where these guys are playing golf They are rich people Millionaires are there And some of them They have ideas, yes But they are not implementing in terms of the young people Who are growing, who are going to be entrepreneurs In years to come So if I go and roll with them And engage with them I will be able to learn what they want to achieve in life As they are And I will be in a position to take myself back To my age And be in a position to execute it before I get old So it depends with you Alright Powerful words from a decent man Mr. Stevenson himself As we wrap this up How can they get Be part of your trading business How can they buy or sell to you How can they get a hold of your services In videography Your camera is number 4 And don't forget YouTube as well How can they get your music My music is on YouTube Steveson music Steveson Kenya One is full My friend request Steveson music I'm a Steveson Kenya And then I have The company page That is Unlimited Films Again I have a youth empowerment I called a youth Unlimited youth empowerment Whereby I nurture young people I do motivational speaking So you can get me At Unlimited Films You can DM me there Instagram that is Unlimited Films And again Steveson music Steveson Kenya And I have a page on Facebook Where I post my stuffs You post the products that they came back At a very good price So the people who come to your Facebook And say nilikwana y254 At a discount maybe Ya ya So if you so Steveson y254 And it's a good price When you go to N.I. Importers On Facebook This is a powerful gentleman right here He has a powerful story What is your last remarks to the viewers Since you're a public speaker Ya ya ya as much as you're being raised by God Or as much as you get what you What you're trying to get in life You should remain humble Humility Humility Humility Humility We have a question on Facebook This question is simple We are just asking people What business have they seen before Or are they engaging in That is simple But still Very interesting in terms of execution And the money it brings What is this one business That you've seen around That is quite simple Of course I might talk about the talent Because the talent is something That is very unique That if you execute it in a good way Someone will see the end It will have an interest on it And maybe you're doing like your Portrait Your drawing art Just making people laugh maybe Yes yes yes maybe you're a comedian I have worked with Desagu I've been a film director For Desagu several times And I know that guy makes money Very easy And some other guys They make money very easy So your talent can be the simplest Way of making money It can be from singing To comedy To writing to drawing As I said Sometimes it's not good to copy What other people are doing Everybody is best in his own way So when you're copying someone You're not real Just be real Sometimes if you're a Christian Or if you're a believer You can tell God to help you Or the Holy Spirit to guide you And he will definitely guide you You'll find it Thank you very much Mr. Siseven So we're coming through to you in the morning We appreciate you Keep your feedback coming our way as well And you can interact with them At NIMporters on Facebook That is a business page Your personal again Steeveson Kenya Steeveson Kenya You can interact with this And Steeveson music On YouTube You can interact with them He has a lot of powerful words To share Whether people are right there I go by the name of Barry Moses Or it's my own social media platform Alex is coming up next With another interview And don't forget To respond to our question On Facebook Don't go no more