 Yeah, this has a nice long cord on it, which is nice That's a nice back row look how pretty that looks I know it's it's magic That is really that looks great. I should have worn my fancy pants I Was wearing shorts like half an hour. Oh you dressed up for me. Yeah. No, I just How bad they was man-spreading that Jeff is that isn't Jeff Hey, is this a guest appearance? Jeff's our social media director. Hello, Mr. Jeff This is fun So, yeah, we got a mic just for you Jeff Jeff's here. Hi Jeff. I don't think we've met have we this is Chris Lanz down. She's our guest today Nice to meet you. Good to meet you Now I wouldn't try that if I were you settles into the couch and he's like stuck there for two hours But which camera is not working Okay, you could add one Jeff Jeff's joining the group. I like this This does he know She's a very sweet dog except with our other dog He's 17 and he's like he sleeps most of the time. He's a joy. It's okay. Hey His double people aren't jerks. He's a joke. Don't dance gonna take that personal You can probably zoom in on a little bit. Oh It's a good shot of yeah, Jeff. Look at Jeff It's looking good there. Jeff's Jeff's a star Jeff. Do you get a haircut recently? It's a nice cut. Thank you Yeah, you've got the captain pike haircut. He does looks cool Captain pike haircut. Come on. What wait a minute. Who's that a bad thing Star Trek? Yes, oh, yeah, no the well the the new one strange new worlds, which is really good Okay, and and some Mount is playing captain pike so you're you get to Tab hunter Yeah, no they use tab hunter in the original pilot One minute. Oh great. Now, how do I do this? Oh, right? We've only been doing this show for 12 years Actually because I was there I was with you on Wednesday You'll notice I just basically sat in my ass the whole time. I didn't notice that just a little yeah There was like one tech question Okay, I was kind of thrown into a little bit too cuz I was I didn't know I was gonna be on Okay, but I love her. Oh The tish. Yeah, she's gonna she's got a good project going there. Okay Are we ready? Georgie 459 on Mike's bike in his mind Hey, it's time for voiceover body shop and tonight we have a very special guest and we're in studio Where there's finally. Yeah We've been doing it from remote for years and years now, but our guest tonight is Chris lands down Chris Anthony lands down. I gotta get make sure I get that right Yeah, so she's not confused with all the other Chris lands downs out there. That's right She was the voice of Barbie Did you want me to like yeah, there you go Anyway, if you have a question for Chris because we're gonna talk to her for a bit And then you get the chance to ask your questions Just put them in the chat room and Jeff Holman is right here. Get the shot of Jeff. There's Jeff Where's the where's the Jeff shot coming? I hear cut good haircut, too. There's there's the Jeff shot All right, say hello Jeff And he will put it in the chat room and we will get to that in just a little bit So stay tuned. Are you ready? Mr. Wittem? Let's do this. All right voiceover body shop right now Voiceover body shop is brought to you by voice over essentials calm the home of Harlan Hogan's signature products Source elements the folks who bring you source connect the oh heroes calm become a hero to your clients with award-winning voice over training Voice actor calm your voice over website ready in minutes Voice over extra your daily resource for voice over success and by world voices the industry association of free Lance voice talent And now here's your hosts Dan and George Hey there, I'm Dan Leonard and I'm George Wittem and this is voiceover body shop or VO How's everybody doing tonight again our guest is Chris Anthony lands down and we're gonna be talking about her Wonderful career, which is still going on fortunately. Yes. Thank you. Thank you And again, if you've got a question throw it in the chat room and we will get to that question in just a little bit Chris's remarkable vocal talent and warm humorous personality Has for over three decades won the trust love and respect of everyone She has worked with the voice over in the voiceover industry besides being the lengthy list of TV Audio animation video game credits She also enjoyed long and treasured relationships with many manufacturers topping the list was a Decade-long thing where you're the voice of all the Barbie stuff Welcome, thank you Thank you for joining us tonight. Nice. Don't shake hands anymore. Give me another shake. Watch this was that's how you do it Shake hands. Yeah, that's how they do it in the pictures in the paper Oh George fist bump Yeah, we just cover it all for you. Okay So you and I believe it out. We're born 12 days apart. Oh, I am 12 days. You're senior Wait, that's mean you're older. That's right. I am just check in my math's not great here. Yeah, okay So you're older and wiser. I wish I laugh at danger You're you're from Pennsylvania. Yes, whereabouts in Pennsylvania? I am from a place called Eloquipa, Pennsylvania Eloquipa is such a fun name Eloquipa Eloquipa sounds like a little like a vegetable train. We had Susquehanna on the other side There there's a name. Hey, yes I was there till maybe five years old and my dad moved to California for business and took us five kids and my mom West mm-hmm and Yeah, I came out to California when I was five years old and have not gone back gone back yet So I'm a California girl as they say it's a great place to be from isn't it? It is Why are you from there Pennsylvania? Huh? I'm not from your hometown, but I am from Pennsylvania. Well, that makes us practically neighbors Doesn't it? Yeah, my great aunt moved out here in the 50s at the same exact thing I've never gone back once and it's a great place to be from you might be my long-lost cousin He could be a cousin. It's possible. Well, if you wanted, you know, do that genealogy thing, whatever 2023 and me ancestry is a big wide state Anyway, how did you get into show biz as we say? well, I Started out in a very kind of a strange little way and in high school I was in all the plays and the musicals and all the silliness of Like the pep rallies remember the pep rallies at school gets you ready for the football I was the school mascot That's was my brother, but that's a whole nother story. Oh, that's fun. Yeah, so you were doing all I was doing all that and Whatever they needed a crazy character to be in the pep rallies and the plays and stuff I I signed up because that's that was where I lived And I used to just be in all the activities in high school and then I graduated from high school and I was gonna be a movie star Get again movie star But it didn't turn out to be that way because every time I tried to be glamorous it didn't work It was like I knew that wasn't gonna be my calling to be Are you more were you more comedienne than glamorous? Yes, I think What originally happened was I was going to pursue pursue a acting career. I had gotten an agent and She said I don't know about you, but we'll find it We'll find your road which you should be you know where you're strongest and I actually took a little Break and I decided to travel with my brother to do a Road trip and I demonstrated cookware. Yes Yeah Impressive, isn't it? I've seen that Getting done. Yeah, I've seen this is the 80s. It's completely different. So like trade shows and that sort of thing Yeah, cuz yeah, it was Oster riser blenders Oster cookware and they So this is what the company said my my brother was the distributor and he says look We'll take you from state to state and you demonstrate this cookware And you're gonna make a lot of money. All you have to do is sell the cookware any way you want to do it. So I Got a stage I was on stage I was an actress and they put all this cookware around me and they gave me fry pans and pots And so I just burned food all day long I Showed how food could just slide right out of these pans. You could burn your food and look it's comes right out It sounds like an SNL here here like this I really got good at it to where there was crowds of people I mean you walk into the store and there'd be like a show going on with my pots and pans And you're doing these at the retail outlets. Yeah, or was it a mall like a JC Penney? Yes, so they built up this big stage. Yeah, I wore these glamorous dresses. Yeah, which I don't know why but I was I was performing and What happened was I learned such improv skills from doing this because You have to make a living. Yeah, you have to make it fun and funny and The more I did it the better I got at it and people were buying cookware. You held their attention. Yes People are going I'll take a set of that. Oh, no, I'll take two fry pans I'll take you know, it's like were you getting a percentage or I was getting commissioned. All right Okay, so I was making good money and what happened was it caught on and I went from state to state doing this and I tell people that want to go into voice acting your acting Boy learn improv do it the right way and do it live with people You know, that's how you do it. You learn how to use your skills that way and it was so much fun And I do remember meeting one lady that has stuck with me my whole life And I sometimes tell the story her name was Stella Della Rose What a name she walked up to my where I was doing the cookware and she says Well, Chris, I don't know about you, but I don't cook like that I cook with a marauder and skillet, you know, I put it with fire. Just let that and I went She just stunned me. She had like a missing fret too. She had on this cowboy hat Classic she had on overalls and she was telling me how to do how to cook in those pans And I just looked at her. I went, okay, Stella. I'm sorry. I don't know how to cook like you do But I kept her that's gonna say you kept her locked away. That was a character in there She was in my mind for years and I used her in animation Yeah, I used her in all kinds of things and wherever you are Stella Della Rose I thank you. Yeah So you were able to get into acting doing that. How did you make that transition to do? Well getting on stage or on camera. I came back to San Diego and I asked my friends. I gotta get an agent. So I went to an Agency Nancy Washburn if you're out there. She still is in San Diego. Great agent. I went to her office I didn't know any better. I just kind of got an appointment and I sat there I said, you know, I want to be in acting and she looked at me and said, well, what do you do? Well, I do impressions that's when you break into Stella Della Rose And then I did seagull impressions I did stuff Bless her heart. She looked at me goes. I don't know what I'm gonna do with you, but we're gonna make you a star I believed her you charmed him. Yeah. Yeah, so she sent me out on commercials and Said you just you go on these commercials and you just you do you and so I did and Sometimes I got the job and sometimes I did not because I would try To go and look a certain way and I dress up for the part and then they ended up Going with something completely different and I got kind of frustrated because I Don't know that that look in the 80s was that big hair The glossy lips and it was very glamorous and the harder I tried to be that I just Didn't work for me. Yeah Well said how long did you do that? I did that for many years. I got lots of commercials I was in bit parts and eight is enough and TV shows and and then I somebody sent me on a Interview for an animation project and guess what I could be anything. I wanted to be Yeah, I could be bug I could be an old lady, you know, if they want me to be no lady I just be no lady. It would be you And I noticed my face was contorting and doing all this stuff. I thought but there's no cameras. Yeah, that's right I didn't care. Yeah, and if my hair was messy and I wanted to be a bug And whatever they wanted it was like freeing I felt like I found my lane to be in so I Thought I'm not going back and I stayed in it You know and the whole voiceover thing and and it became really fun. I'm sure it always is When you're when you're working, it's a lot of fun. Yeah, that's the most important when you're not you're going Let's see Brad or milk tonight. Yeah, is we like to say when people are just starting up Stock up on mac and cheese and ramen noodles. Oh, yes, I had those days Yeah, so but you've got a wonderful opportunity I guess in the late 80s and well it no, let's say would have been 1994 because you have a story about how you got this Amazing job over at Mattel Tell us were you there was I think were you there? I was not I was not there But I was older than me Well just prior to that I had gotten a voice some voice work with adventures in Odyssey That was a radio drama that's been on for 35 years and I got the role of the host for that show great show for still doing it still doing it That's great. It's got a huge amount of people that have listened grown up and now their kids listen to it and it's The writing is really good. The stories are good. They're on the pulse of what like kids are going through And a lot of actors want to be on the show because it's really well done. It's produced. Well, and I think Jeff wants to be on it Right Jeff. Oh boy. Yeah Could you try that take two Jeff wants to be on the show too hell, yeah They'll see I I know I know he does secretly But anyways, it's a great show and I'm very very grateful that I'm still doing it after all these years so then We're all ahead a little bit in 1994. I'm already doing voices for toys lots of toys and I get this audition for Mattel and I didn't know what it was for. I thought it was just another baby doll that I was auditioning for It wasn't just a baby doll. Yeah. Yeah, it was it was for a another kind of doll and Should I tell how that happened with sure it's going for it. Sure. Okay So I had an audition for this doll and which camera am I am I looking at this one here? Here actually this one here. Okay, so so I get this audition, right and The next day an earthquake happens 1994 I was in Northridge, California with my husband and my baby and all of a sudden There's an earthquake and things are flying off the shelves and you know, it's craziness. Were you there? No, where were you? No back in PA. Good. Good move. How about you? Where were you? I was in Buffalo, but I remember seeing about it Okay. All right. How about Jeff? Was Jeff there? No, I was in Denver We all missed it A year before oh Yeah, it was it was intense and I remember Having my husband and my daughter and thinking wow this, you know Things are kind of flying off the shelves and and it's like the water stops running and it's you know I've never been in an earthquake before like that. No, it was crazy and I remember holding my daughter I grabbed her out of the crib and it's dark. It's like four in the morning I I grab a hold of her and I'm just kind of rocking her back like this You know what? It's okay, honey. It's okay, and I look down and she's upside down And her head is going She's having a good old time. Yeah, she has no context for what's going on This is the 25 cent ride And anyways it got it got scary and in my mind I said I'm going to call and tell them I'm not coming to my audition Why an earthquake when I even care, right? But El Segundo where Mattel was is like 25 30 40 minutes away Yeah, they weren't in the real hub of what was happening. So I just okay. I'm not gonna make it I'm not coming to my audition and The director says Well, we really gotta get to this project. I'm so sorry you're going through this but We'll know if you sound right for our our doll. Just give me a little something and we'll you know We'll kind of know and I went, okay I remember sitting on the floor and you did an audition under the gun on a telephone on the phone just after this Yeah Tremors might even still be coming in and I thought okay I'll just sit on my bedroom floor and I'll do this audition and He said just say these few things and we'll we'll kind of know if you're in that pocket of what we're looking for because this project's really got to happen and so I Said okay, what do you want me to say? I'm holding my phone. He says just say um Hi, this is Barbie. You look cool. Welcome to McDonald's It was Barbie I Thought to myself I played with Barbie on my bedroom floor and now in the earthquake I'm gonna try to be here. I don't know that just was too scary and you're sitting on the Bedroom floor It's actually pretty thin probably with glass all over the place Yeah, I don't remember just remember sitting there and Jacques DeLon was the director and he said Go anyway Hi, it's me Barbie you look cool. Welcome to McDonald's And he said nothing Nothing was very quiet and I just kind of sat there went Well, I'm kind of nervous Do you want me to do it again? Because I was desperate to do it better and he said no Can you possibly come tomorrow? Down to Elsa Gundel and I said Okay. Yeah No running water Things are still happening But my husband says go I'll take care of everything Getting the car just go and that you know the thing of like your gut says I need to do this So I I was able to put on my baseball cap Didn't do the whole shower and dress up cute and pretty like a little Barbie. I went in is Chrissy And as I walked into the lobby This is the old day. So you walk into the lobby There's a high desk with a receptionist sitting behind the desk and she looks at me. She goes, are you Chris? I said I was so nervous There was this gigantic Barbie in the lobby Like the movie she was so big and tall like an Oscar and she stood there in her mighty Barbiness and I looked at her in my baseball cap But I thought to myself okay I'm here for a reason. Just do what you do and the receptionist said Would you like to go back with me? You know, I'll take you back. I said sure And she says be sure and not look at any of the cubicles as you're passing by okay First thing you do Because it was the height of hot wheels Transformers. Yeah, they were super hot of that. Yeah, they were in their cubicles and they weren't working on their stuff She goes don't be kind of rubber-necked and looking at those back They didn't have everybody that walks in the door sign an NDA back You just walk through to the design studio and there's your I'm in my little baseball cap walking through all these people are in their Cubicles you could see like the toys up on there, you know, it's really cool everything Wanted to look at What was going on in each cubicle? Yeah, I stayed straight and I walked back through and I saw in one little cubicle there was these these ladies with Barbie heads little Barbie heads like Hundreds of them on sticks and what They were doing was they were painting their eyes This was with their little magnifying glass and they're painting their eyes Because in Barbie's what the white of their eye changes their expression If you painted a certain way, she's doing different things So they had these little things and I went oh my gosh a bunch of Barbie heads are in there I was so tempted to say something. Yeah. Yeah, they took me back to the studio I sat on my stool just like to set her And inside the glass The glass were like six or seven Suits all sitting there Looking at me saying You say you're it, huh? And I go I really look prettier than this. I do I didn't look I have no shower to take So I was just thinking I sat there the director said, okay, just do what you did on the phone and I said, okay, I Couldn't remember because I was in shock. Yeah, so I just hi. It's me Barbie And I thought to myself wait. She needs to be every little girl's best friend This was the kindest sweetest Barbie. That was my that was my Feeling that I wanted to bring to her instead of being cooler. Hipper I wanted her to be sweet and innocent and somebody that would pick up a doll and play with her and say This is my friend. So I just kind of thought about it. I did the words and Again, it was quiet and nobody said anything. I went Did my best quietly in awe actually Now I swear It was like thinking like I think we got it. Yeah, and it's slow motion He goes like this to the talkback button. He goes Hello Barbie That's a cool moment, yeah, I'm sure they all chills in their little suits Hello Barbie. Are you busy tomorrow? And I went No, I'm not busy and From that point on we did super talk Barbie with a hundred thousand phrases in her Wow Yeah So that was like a time when technology was oh it was mixing and matching It was new so she would say Let's go to the beach with Ken tomorrow. Oh, I see. Yeah Let's have pizza with Teresa yesterday But it was like Yeah, we were in that studio and the next day we did Barbie talking Watches Barbie talking skates Barbie talking register Barbie talking you name it Barbie had a finally had a voice So so to that point they didn't have any Talking they'd never had a voice for a Barbie. They had like I think a workout video Yeah, they had it here and there through the years just sporadic, but they never established like a voice for her. Yeah, okay, and so When they picked me they it was like they made her come to life. Yeah, and we spent Just weeks and months of just recording. Oh my gosh. Yeah different stuff It was it's so exciting because every day I went to you know Go do teacher Barbie or dentist Barbie working woman Barbie astronaut Bobby. Yeah, I like Spanish speaking Barbie Barbie Which I don't speak Spanish That was no sweat there no pressure they brought in a linguist for that. Yeah, so they coached you they coached me We we want to get that voice. We want to get your voice And we're gonna make you sound as Spanish as we go. Oh, he was so he was so good He walked into the room and they said this is your linguist for this doll. He sits down next to me I laughed to this day. He was very handsome man. He looked like What is the actor that married Melanie Griffith Tony? Antonio He walked into the room living solely He walked into the room sat down next to me says I'm going to help you speak Spanish and I went There's still Jeff Jeff what you're Yeah, baby, all right, he was saying like Barbie to say come a siama come siama He go you've got to roll your you know, he was helping me She says I love you and all these things that he was saying these things and everybody in the recording booth is going That's great He inspired you so how long did you do all this stuff? I mean, I mean it would look like a wide range of products and You know and and games too and yeah, we did Seedy roms and we did websites. We did everything. They could have just dream up and I think back You know, there was one one doll that stands out my mind the most which was talk with me Barbie She was the one who sat at a computer and when you played with her She would say every kid's name possible her mouth actually moved up and down I I'm surprised, you know, they don't talk more about her, but her mouth would go up and down as she talked Mm-hmm, and so we spent months and months programming into this Barbie names Linda Suzy Marie Then we went into the baby book So we did all the names in the baby and then they went to Portuguese and then they went to the Cantonese and then we went to languages. I Was I was crazy Buntz Just saying names Lucinda Corosanda la lula, you know, oh They go crested you to break. Yes, I do. I just get up and I just kind of not talk. Yeah, and It then they did phonemes all right The way you connect letters together or or yeah, what is it like I was like Katina they Na na na Oh, wow. Yeah, okay. They were really splicing. They're splicing and they would make names out of I think that's not called phonemes Yeah, yeah, the connectors that are the the connections between I see somebody should know Jeff knows the connectors of words. Yeah, yeah I mean like they formed they form names before words and We we tried everything and then Christmas comes out. I don't tell this part too often inside scoop Barbie came out and her mouth was supposed to go up and down when she talked Well, they got a lot of phone calls because Christmas was a big time for her This doll came out and she was really exciting except for the fact her mouth got stuck open So she's a Barbara It was bad people calling it my my Barbie's mouth won't close my Barbie's mouth. What do I do? Close it. I don't know but it's funny. You think you buy this Lucinda You know that reminds me of we used to go with the Chuck E cheese and imitate the stupid They were so bad People used to come to me and go, you know my doll my doll's not working. Oh, okay. Were you taking your own taking phone calls, too? Your name in the phone book. I hope you know any way publicly and no, oh, here's it. That's an interesting thing We'll get to that in a little bit more about the fact that they didn't let me talk. We that yeah Well, well, we have a tease for the next segment. Oh Once again, we have Chris Anthony lands down with us the voice of Barbie and a lot of other stuff If you have a question for throw it in the chat room Because in the next half hour, we're gonna ask her some if your questions and I'm sure you're just bursting with questions So anyway, go in the chat room get your questions in there And we'll be right back here on voiceover body shop to answer those questions right after these important messages This is the Latin lover narrator from Jane the Virgin Anthony Mendez and you're enjoying Dan and George on the voice of her body shop Setting up for voiceover recording on the road can be a real hassle. 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We're just good actors and make you think we don't know what we're doing here I don't remember things but I just for I really Dan completely remembers where I was and Chef over there. He knew line by line what I was saying Him right here. He knows everything, right? So where was I? There was something that you were said you haven't been able to tell this to many people Well, you guys invite me back if I if I was you know, I just feel so you know filled family here Well, we want to make it easy and make it feel fun. Okay. Yeah George you've ever seen George writing all his bike stories. He okay aside from this later watch George and his bike adventures Okay, I've seen him with road rash several times. Yeah, if you guys haven't seen him on his bike, it's like we're a lot of padding now All right, I will stick on to I go right back to the topic and During the time I was Barbie all those years that I was what almost ten years of doing All kinds of different toys really the CD-ROMs which were the computer games were the really popular things back then because girls did not have computer games, so Mattel was so smart to do this. They made we did detective Barbie We did Barbie writing club Barbie hair styler Barbie fashion designer, which was the one that was the big one that broke all records I'm sure this year. They they she was inducted into the Video Hall of Fame really far up pretty impressive, huh? Yeah, I would say so I'm in the Hall of Fame How about that? George could you give me a little more to work with there? So they did they put it in the Hall of Fame this year and that was the the CD-ROM Which is funny to say CD-ROM. I know when you remember those don't we? I remember playing games that had five or six CD-ROMs, okay? And you had to take disc one out to what I take it out put this four in yes You're on the fourth disc of the game and you have disc one You'd give it to your friend down the hall in your dorm They would play this one and then you're playing disc three That's what I remember of CD-ROM Yeah, they were they were that was the happening thing and the fashion designer one that they did induct Into the Hall of Fame it was so cool because girls did not have a computer game What you did was you go on this CD-ROM and you would design clothes for Barbie you designer clothes She could Walk on the screen wearing them and then they made it possible where you could Print it out you could print out your designs and put it on your Barbie So your Barbie's wearing your design now that was the coolest No, that's really cool And that and that's a thing now in many many video games where you design your own players costumes Yeah, and there's it's such a big deal that there is a marketplace of people who design costumes for the characters in the game And sell them on I didn't know that places. Yeah, that's very cool times. We live in yeah Yeah, go into a furniture store. You can see what different fabrics you can put on them and stuff. Yeah, it's really cool Did you do that recently no It's been a few years I don't know you guys can't see that's a cool couch over there But did you pick the color because that's a really cool color? I don't remember You know it was on our porch in Buffalo and somehow it ended up Buffalo it did that's a very cute little couch It is and I'm very comfortable It was the great napping because there's enough room for my wife and I both to nap on it, you know I like the whole bit. I know you guys can't see this We're just helping you to see it through our descriptions using your mind's eyes. Yes We got a couple of questions here from our voluminous audience across the globe. Yeah Starting with Grace Newton, why don't you take that George? Grace asks did you ever see a prototype of the toys before you voice them? That is probably one of the coolest questions grace. Where am I talking grace? She's a big fan. She's been watching. She's over here. She's here Hey, Grace Do you know out of all the interviews I've done people have never asked that high-five Okay, so we'll do one for those for you Are we No, well, I take that back There was a couple of them where they showed me not quite They didn't evolve quite to what they were gonna look like. Oh when they were all done But there was a Barbie head that you remember on a chopstick She was life-sized Barbie head, so it was the size of like Dan's head say picture that was the Barbie's like the ones that they would do the hair on that side Yeah, like the ones life-size heads with hair Mm-hmm, and they would put lipstick in it. So you got a slick from right here bust. Yeah, the bust Okay, they bring her into the studio and they set her in front of me Wow That's one of the rare times they did that and they said okay We want you to see what she looks like so so I saw her face with her, you know pretty little hair and then I Was able to really feel it more when you see something. Yeah, it's like animation when you see the character Excuse me But yeah, I got to look at her and it was really weird because her head was literally the size of mine So she's sitting here And as I talked I look at her but this is kind of like a twilight zone I am talking Barbie and no don't do that Good question. Yeah, that's a good question. Uh, Jim McNicholas asks How long was your NDA to not be able to talk about it? Another great is who's this? This is Jim Nicholas. Jim Nicholas. Nick Nicholas. Nick Nicholas Nick Nicholas. Nick Nicholas. Sorry, Jim. You just destroyed your name Okay Hi Jim Jeff Jim Jim Okay, cut that part right. Nick Nicholas What is it? Nicholas Pickles. Okay Hi, Jim back to you. Oh, I hear got caught um This is what was really the hardest part of my stretch doing Barbie's voice because when I started Um, it was just year after year after year Of not being able to tell anybody I was Barbie. Hmm. You're a year Yeah, so your NDA was basically the job the product went out It was in the world and you still couldn't help you correct. Geez. How do you like that? Even even a cocktail parties and stuff. Well, I sort of okay But you can obviously you couldn't do any any other right dolls I had interviews and stuff like that because you know you tell something like that that and gives you gets you more work That's your that's your body of work. Right here. I'm working Unlike into the eighth year of doing Barbie's voice and they did not want her to have a face Because they wanted the mystique, you know, Barbie's Barbie. There's no girl doing her voice She's Barbie and at the time it was Jill Barad was I think the ceo I forgive me if I messed up her name She was very serious about Barbie at the time. She she said when they had their Their meetings talking about her She would take that doll and she would lay her down carefully She it's like this was their baby. And you never go into a session and do things in and say Things that Barbie shouldn't be saying they took it very took her all seriously You were somewhere record you being saying something off color or doing something crazy like that And it's like you don't do that. You're gonna be trouble. Yeah, so you took you took it was very serious And I really respected my job and I knew never to go anywhere off Yeah, so I'm straight narrow. Yeah, and there were there were times where people go. Oh have her say this I went no So what happened was they said you can't and I had people asking for interviews and I can't remember what tv show that mic is slowly dropping in And then I'm going like this It's good. Thank you for looking up. I'm just like it's getting it's just so slow Jeff likes thinking because he couldn't have to look at my face. He's going that's good I'll just sort of hang out here and be the boomstrap here It's the boomstrap. Uh shock a shock a boomstrap. Okay. So where was okay. So here. Here's the kicker Yeah, I I hope you wore deodorant because you okay So they said do not tell people you are barbie's voice How's that? That mean the head I know no, no, no, I got it. I got it. I'm sorry professionals. Don't try this at home Jim is a gem, right? Yeah, Jim. Yeah I'm gonna answer this question. I am so they would not let me tell people I was barbie Except for there was times where I Snuck in phone calls for little girls that were like sick in the hospital. Oh, yeah, like make a wish kind of thing Yeah, I would call and I would say you'll get better. Don't worry. Yeah, or don't don't worry You'll be okay. You know, I just yeah, that was my connection to The world I couldn't do it that way. So I would I would do that and there was no smartphones It wasn't like you're getting recorded Serptitiously or whatever and there were kids that would come to my front door And they would knock on the door and they'd say can you be barbie today? Here I am in my bathrobe. Yeah And Close your eyes everybody. Yeah, I want to see what I really look like And it's hi everybody. It's me barbie and they would giggle Through the little peephole in your door Oh my god My daughter was five at the time I was doing all this and she was like She loved barbie so much. She had over barbies and stuff and people go Kelsey, did you know your mom's barbie and she'd go It was like Your daughter's into barbie. Do you want your mother to be barbie's voice? Yeah? And so she goes Mommy's barbie. It's like And um that went through a little phase of like And then and then she got a little older and it became cool to have your mom And I'd pick her up from school and kids would come to the car and they'd say Miss chris, could you do barbie for us and my daughter go? Mom come on everybody mom's gonna do barbie Well then between social currency That was cool And we'd go on school field trips and they'd say could barbie sit next to me because I was the cool mom And it was so cute. That was the whole phase that we went through but you had to wait years for that to happen. Yeah, okay, then Toy story comes out 90 When did that come out 98 99 Late 20th century. Yeah. Good question. Yeah. Yeah Well, I had been doing barbie's voice for years on everything that moved and breathed And matel goes guess what you're gonna be in toy story and I went Awesome. Yeah No The next day they come in they go. Oh, sorry. You're not going to do it. I went Huh, I already called my six thousand friends on my mom And they said uh, disney picked they want their their barbie brutal See that was the face I made that's that show biz close up on this face. Look right there. That's it. That's the look. Yeah. Yeah And the reason for that was there the you know disney basically when they pick something you kind of Surrender to their and it was a bigger name. It was a real big name and She hadn't been doing barbie Had been doing barbie and I the person that did they did she was very sweet and very She had red hair and she was a mermaid And um She got to be barbie in the movie now. Here's the kicker When the credits rolled Her name rolled as barbie and everybody went. Oh, that's who barbie is Oh Gosh, oh well That makes me that was good sound to fix the idea. You know, that really makes me here's what I gotta tell you I'm sorry for the long-winded story because no, it's a great story. That's this is a true hollywood story, right? Yeah This is the one thing I gotta say When you get a job and you're you're given something special and believe me that was a special job for me In my heart, I had to say this I had to say I had a season of time that I was picked to do this And then you have to kind of have a an attitude of Really being grateful for something you don't you don't clamp on to it and say It's mine and you can't have it. You say, thank you. I've done this for so long. I've been given great amounts of Blessings through this and uh I just came into my own thinking and said, you know what? I don't have control over this I don't and she did a great job and I just thought that was kind of the transition a little bit I was gonna ask you was that kind of like that? Yeah, it was a little bit of a confusion there We had a an actor strike during the time I don't remember what year the the strike was but 2000 Yeah, and what happened was I could not record any of the barbie stuff because I was on strike So they went to canada And they used a canadian actress Never call a canadian a scab Yeah, so And so, um, yeah, they used somebody else and here's the funny part is I haven't told this too much, but she was trying to imitate me so So by the time this strike ends and they come back to me There's these toys out there that somebody's trying to sound like me And so they said Well, you got to sound like that toy because that toy you have to try to sound like her sound like you That's nuts. Oh, jeez So I had to try to sound like her it's trying to sound like me because the couple of these toys were Needed the continuity to it. Right. It was so funky weird. Yeah, and I had that kind of I felt like instead of being her it was like I had to have an attitude Oh, because it had morphed the next actor kind of brought they're like sound like her But then she did her own version of it and then you had to sound like her doing you But you know Again, you have to say I am grateful for all the stories and the time I had who gets to be Barbie and iconic. Yeah, it's like I what am I gonna say? You know, I'm grateful for yeah for all that I've gotten and it's just funny that that's how the business is Yep, you know patricia. Andrea asks what type of voice care Can you do if any Like and also exercise you do exercises to warm up or even any mouth washes or what's your vocal care? Yeah, what is your routine for warming up other young sounds? Yeah, like mouth noise Clicks mouth sounds vocal routine. What did you say? Warm up Well to be honest with you, I do warm up in my car and I do all the mouth stuff But I got a thing that I do In my throat, I have certain sounds that I know where to to to uh If I'm gonna do like a young version of somebody or a little kid or an old lady Way up here is my little kid sound and I always sing a song I sing a song and if I want to do a bug it's up here too So I just kind of tighten up and I and I do and I sing a song It's a bug, you know, I do and then as I lower it into my throat I do that um that kind of teenager sound like kind of barbie And I I shall sing a song with her or then I go a little mother my mother's a little bit lower and she's Hi, honey. Are you home from school? And she's that warm caring and as I go. I know this sounds ridiculous I'm no one doesn't we're talking to an audience of voice actors. They want to know And then as I go a little lower I get hurt. She's a little bit older And I use this part of my throat and she's very sincere. She's someone's grandma And she knows wise things, but as I go a little lower and I get that I use those country sounds I'm sorry probably that out. No, but then I just I always give him a song to sing And so I find that character And I give him a little song and then I'm It gets you into it. It sounds so crazy, doesn't it? No, that's that's acting Yeah, look wait a minute. Do you do give me one character that you do that just completely You song goes give me a character like that. Hey, what are you doing over there? Get over here. Hey, Murray. What's happening? It's a stretch No, that was great. All right, George. Don't you have one character in you? Yeah, no, I gotta tell you is I just bring them out when I need to I don't I don't do this for a living I just I don't know what that was Oh, thank you. That was so refreshing to have you guys go there with me Does Jeff have anything in him? Jeff's got a question. You've got a question. Jeff on cam. He has to ask his question How long did it take to record the 100,000 vocabulary? That the one with the names yeah Uh, well you said the the first all that we did like the mixing and matching Oh, yeah freaking years it it took a long time because Um, I remember, you know, they would we'd go a couple weeks Take a little break because my brain would fry go in and do another couple weeks There was one I believe took us a year Wow, I think it was about a complete year That's incredible. Yeah, so that's that's fissure price. I used to do things for fissure price. They're educational toys There was this one toy called the power touch learning system And I was that pleasant voice. It says the red ball can bounce high the red ball can bounce low Three years. Yeah, you learning. Yeah, cool. Well chris it has been fabulous having you with is it done? Yeah, we're done hour goes by Like that what you know or as one frog said to another while sitting on a lily pad time sure is fun when you're having flies Anyway, thanks for being with us tonight I'm so this was so much fun. Thank you. Oh the great stories. All right Uh, chris anthin the landstone voice of barbie and lots of other stuff We'll be right back in georgia. I'll be you wrapping it up right after this. 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We speak for those who speak for a living This is ariana rattner and you're enjoying voiceover body shop with dan lennard and george widdum v obs.tv Well, that was fun. Yeah, it sure was I knew I knew when I met her last week. She would be great on this show. I'm so glad we're grateful She could be here. Yeah, chris anthony landstown. Anyway, uh next week on this very show We're gonna be having tech talk number 108. Yeah, my god. How long have we been doing this? It seems like 108 years. Yeah, at least three actually more like 12 Um, but anyway, uh, so make sure you check that out. Uh, let's see. We have to thank a number of people Well, actually before we thank okay, we need to remember Paul rubens. Oh, I know by now everybody's kind of kind of saturated with the news but That was a major loss. It was he was he was brilliant. It was he was dealing with cancer in private Nobody knew even people that knew him. Well, didn't know. Yeah, I heard him interviewed by uh, Conan O'Brien You know a while ago and they were really close. Yeah, you know So I have we have friends that worked with him directly, you know, e.g. daily Was doddy, you know in the big adventure movie. Yeah, lori allen lori allen worked with him on the live stage show You know as cherry and different characters Keith farley's wife, ann Uh, was a costumer for the show. I think it was So so many people we know and we worked with knew him and worked with him. So sad sad time He will be missed because he was definitely a one of a kind. Absolutely comedian extraordinaire. Yes. Did you know he created that character in 1977 Yeah, I remember I heard that story. Yeah, I can't believe that. Anyway Anyway, we have a lot of people who donate to the show and we have to mention their names We sure do and so their names like Let's see. Greg Cooper. Grace newton. I gotta see over the mic here. Can you see over here? Thank you. 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You know, there's a lot you have to learn There's so much fun stuff and there's a lot of hard stuff But we're here to make it sound right for you because if it sounds good It is good. I'm dan Leonard and i'm george wittem and this is voice over body shop or vio be Stay tuned for tech talk Liner we did you do a liner? What kind of a liner? Hi, this is chris landstown the voice at barbie and you're watching Do you want to do uh, do you want to do it as you or just do it all the way through as a character? You guys like do you want to say i'm ready down because i'll mess it up. Okay. All right, so it's gonna be Be making it up as i go. Okay quickly now Stay tuned. We're gonna get into tech talking just a second here What about one of those that um has both the barbie voice and her voice kind of like the You're watching the You know, did you see did you see the movie? Hey the movie was great That was my impression of you doing the hell wasn't that awesome. Wasn't that just like you I have a story at the restroom Yeah, or i went in and there i'm just me being ladies room and all these kids This bullet girl's melt down in the bathroom Mom i'm like this whole bathroom situation was going on and she goes Hold my purse and it was like all the mothers are going. Oh, this is stupid. I'm terrified. I don't know what came over me. I went Be good barbie wants you to be good She's lying right up, huh? Yeah here sit here and i'm just gonna record you because it was i used my superpowers That's good. Use your superpower of very important inducer Okay, sue can you oh, I guess we are recording it because we're Can I look at that? Yes, you can. Yeah, this is your this is your script. Oh, well, then but it's are they gonna hear see me Are they gonna see me? This is just about sound you're gonna be the you're gonna be a voice on our bumpers Do I do this me? You know, this is you and this is and this is barbie. Okay Oh And you and you can watch all this fun. So this is you line. This is you barbie barbie Thanks What's your part? I ain't got no part Sit there and looks cute. That's what he does action Hi, everyone. This is chris anthony lands down the original voice of barbie you Take two Sorry. Hi, everyone. This is chris anthony lands down the original voice of barbie Your best friend and you're having fun with me on v o b. Yes I love you One take wonder You did awesome You should leave by you should leave while you're ahead here. We'll selfie it. Yeah, Eric. Come here Sit sit Okay, feel free Three two Thank you for coming Thanks chris Stay cool Stay cool. Be cool Come on All right, so we're just gonna use this camera. Okay. All right the audio is connected to you guys Thank you. All righty. Have a great night Okay, that was fun. It was I told you. Yeah, she was great. Yeah I know for her the story is super old hat But I haven't heard of you for if it's new to us. I heard some of them But probably new to a lot of the audience. So okay All right All right time for tech talk. So if you were watching before you can stay Ask questions and ask questions if you've got a question about your home studio get it in there. Okay Are we all set here? She's getting our framing Minimize the boom shadow thing I see bringing in closer helps me. It makes it worse. Let's see one two three four one two three four a little bit Tether Yeah Well, no, it's a man. Hey, this is we're doing voiceover. These are voiceover microphones. They happen to cast a shadow Don't argue with me I do the under the mic thing because I don't want to deal with the Bumping into the mic and lots I mean if we're gonna be talking this way I could put it here and then there'd be absolutely No shadow How's that? Well, take a look when we get the shot. She's getting the shot set up right now That kind of that works. Yeah No shadow there. It works. There's no shadows on me Okay, let's see how the green screen looks Or the uh Thing the thingy, you know thingy Let's see Yeah, she was great. Okay Yeah, if you want to hear a good interview of p. R. Herman listen to the Conan O'Brien his podcast his Good stuff because he's just doing it as paul. You know, he's not being pewey. So you're hearing him in his uh Street voice All right, okay go for it Hey, it's time for voiceover body shop Tech talk tech talk tech talk tech talk tech talk tech talk tech talk tech talk Tech talk if you have a question about your home voiceover studio And you must because we've been doing this for 12 years and you guys still come up with stuff All you have to do is put it in the chat room Jeff Holman is sitting over here and he is going to get reload those questions to us and just a little bit But george and I have lots of cool stuff to talk about In like like this microphone and a few other things and this microphone here and we'll talk about a little bit more about whistle All right, I love talking about whistle. I'm I love talking about whistle and I'll talk about noises I have trademark so be careful how you use it. I use it and I I literally use your name in context Every single time. All right that I use it excellent. It's time for voiceover body shop tech talk right now Voice over body shop tech talk is brought to you by voiceover essentials.com the home of harlan hogan signature products Source elements the folks who bring you source connect the oheros.com become a hero to your clients with award-winning voiceover training voice actor.com your voice over website ready in minutes voiceover extra your daily resource for voiceover success and by world voices the industry association of freelance voice talent And now here's your hosts dan and george Well, hi there i'm dan Leonard and i'm george widdum and this is voiceover body shop or vo b s tech talk tech talk tech talk tech talk tech talk tech talk tech talk tech talk And we've got lots of cool stuff to talk about Two day or two night or whatever time you're watching hopefully a lot of good questions Yes, if you've got a question about your home voiceover studio or some piece of technology that you're trying to understand A new software a new plugin somebody said I should buy this Oh, yes, so we can see you a lot. Don't buy that I worked with a guy today. I bought this new mic because this hot shot guy told me to go buy this mic I said, why'd you buy it? He said it's because he told me to buy it. I said, why did he tell you to buy it? He says because you got to have this mic. I said, how do we know you need that mic? He says, I don't know Exactly This happens and we talked we talked about this last week. Why do you have to have an expensive mic? It doesn't matter Anyway, as you can probably see and hear There's a lot that goes on with the misinformation and you know, sometimes it's people Sending you in the wrong direction. They want to send you down a technological rabbit hole Because unlike most people in this business, there are a few schmucks And they're going to do that kind of thing And uh, and there's misinformation. There is the confusion confusion all these sorts of things If you really want to get it right And not have to worry about your your recording studio your home voiceover studio Because all you really want to do is open the door walk in there Close the door hit the button and do what you do which is read copy and perform You don't want to worry about all the technology a minimum just a minimum of distractions. Exactly. Yeah, that's what George and I do We are Home voiceover studio experts. We have built thousands of studios Every voice is different. Every room is different Every mic is different sort of uh, and Every every home studio has to be custom designed So George and I Really examine who you are what your lifestyle is like your living situation You know, your wife doesn't want you using the closet, you know, those sorts of things. Yeah, I ask those kinds of questions Yeah, you're in the closet whose closet is it? That's right. And can you leave your mic set up in there or not? Right, exactly. That's a big deal. It is it is You know, because it's the quietest and it's also the best acoustics are Clothes most people's studios. That's right But if you want help getting your home studio started or if you're having problems If you don't understand the three important things about acoustics and mic technique and setting levels and all those sorts of things And if you master those you don't even need us. Well, you still will All you have to do is contact one of us and you can get a hold of george and all the services he has over at george the dot tech in fact We have a landing page George the dot tech Slash v obs if you'd like to see our specials that we have for you But yeah, that's uh, we're all our services are located When you go to our services area, it's kind of a greek restaurant menu There's a lot of options But on the left side there's a filters area and you can look for certain things that you need Maybe it's just twisted wave You can filter and make sure you're seeing all the twisted wave related stuff Then when you go to book services, you're going to see availability of our team now Not just me There are little initials in the calendar And you can book a time with anybody on our team and everybody in there are experts At that technology whatever be twisted wave or whatever. 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There it is right over there behind your in front of george There it is right there All you have to do is go over there and contact me there and you'll also find my specimen collection cup And in the specimen collection cup you can you can dump your Your audio your your mp3 of your audio So I can get an idea of what you're the raw sound of your studio is because everybody's like throwing all this Processing and stuff in it. I don't hear any of that. I want to hear the raw sound to see What possible little tweaks we can make with it that way But you don't use technology to make yourself sound better You might use technology to record yourself and make these minor little corrections. So go on over there So anyway, it's time for george's tech update and you got lots of cool stuff today including This guy. Yeah. Well, we've we've talked about it. We've teased it. This microphone probably needs no real introduction because well road is excellent at marketing, but It is a mic that has become a hot a hot ticket And so we finally got one to play around with this. So this is the the road Nt one that we all know and love many of us fifth gen right and It's interesting because it looks very similar to its prior generation microphones. It's the same shape. It's the same size Reportedly, it's the same capsule and it supposedly sounds It's opposed to sound identical to the last I thought it sounded better actually. Yeah, it may sound better. I mean So that's the whole idea. So this but this mic's trick up its sleeve, of course, is not that it's just an xlr microphone It also connects with usb now what makes this kind of The part that I don't like Is that you can you have to make a decision? Which one you're going to use you you can't have them both plugged in at the same time The design choice to do this was probably to keep the design clean not have any holes in the body of the microphone You actually connect the usb in the same area as the xlr. It's just a little off But you can't plug the xlr. You can't plug them both in at the same time But when you plug it in with usb, it does then become a usb microphone Now it has no switches dials nothing on the body of the mic It doesn't have a headphone jack. So if monitoring yourself for a podcast or something is your bag It may not be a good choice for you. You might want to go with the nt usb plus Which is a cheaper mic that has headphone monitoring But if you want extremely high quality extremely low noise Low distortion great sounding audio And you're doing performances like you're doing games you're doing characters You're doing commercials whatever In those cases, you generally don't need to listen to yourself and dan's been preaching this for years You don't need headphones And so when with some practice when you get the mic in the right spot It captures you as you sound in your space. It sounds amazing The extra thing that this thing throws at you and not only with not only is the usb Doubling as the mic doubling is a usb mic interesting. It also has this technology called 32 bit float Everybody's talking about it. Nobody understands. Yes. So 32 bit float is a strange beast And I thought maybe without creating an absolute calamity if this thing will let me do a share screen I thought yep, of course now it wants to give I have to give permission and then I'll have to leave the show to come back Let's see what happens if it'll let me Do this. Yeah, I got to quit and reopen chrome. I have to leave the show so I'll I'll I'll sort of Improv while I do this since we're not using this to run the show. Thank goodness Um, so the whole idea here is that with 32 bit float recording It's capturing a much much wider dynamic range from the absolute quietest possible sounds that the microphone can hear To the loudest right and it's something like 140 decibels of dynamic range or something right? I think this the lo the quietest the microphone gets is 4db Something like that. That's the self noise right the self noise on a road is is Legendarily low. It's very low. The thing you're going to hear is your room tone Your air conditioning your environment around you. That's what the mic's going to hear And that's what you're going to hear from the mic At the loud side and the loud end of the spectrum the microphone will absolutely handle Anything that your human voice can throw at it You know meaning that you can scream at it. You can yell at it You don't over modulate and the mic is not going to clip So being that is may you don't have to worry about setting gain When using this very specific methodology of recording called 32 bit float and road doesn't in any unique way What they do is they take the the input the inside the microphone is basically An entire signal chain. Yeah, but multiple signal chains. There's actually four different mic preamps And a analog to digital converters inside this thing on the circuit board The signal is split over different sets of gains So like if you're speaking very softly it's using one circuit If you're speaking at a certain level again, what what these levels are completely Proprietary like trade secret Patented, we don't know but it divides that into different volumes Then those are all converted into digital and then at the other end some algorithm Or whatever combines those back into one signal and now you have this extremely wide Dynamic range that it can capture Free of distortion free of any Anything that would get in the way of this quality of the audio. So if I can bring up a Tab of the current show we're doing right now, which I am And I get back into the show here Entering the studio. I'm now in the studio. I'm now going to do a screen Share share screen. I'm going to do the entire screen And do that and look at that hide a bunch of stuff. There's our mixer All sorts of things you don't want to see and now we're on the desktop And so in order there's a trick here And I wanted to show this to you guys too because so many people are going to buy this mic And then immediately use it wrong you have to go into And I'm sorry for windows folks. I don't know how to the specifics of the windows side yet But on the max side you once the microphones plugged in Which I can't plug because I'm using it So I can't show you the demonstration. I wanted to show you in the first place. I didn't figure that part But you have let's just pretend for example the built-in Microphone is the device you'll see there's a thing that says format Right there and it says 31 channel 32 bit float When you choose the road microphone, you have to make sure that it has chosen 32 bit float in this program called audio MIDI setup If you don't do that, it's not actually working in 32 bit float mode. Okay So you get that out of the way is once that set then you just simply record like any other microphone In your DAW in this case. I'm just going to use twisted wave because it's just drop dead simple and when you make a new file And twisted wave you just make sure here. You also choose 32 big float, right? And now you'll be recording and capturing the entire 32 bit float dynamic range that the microphone has the party trick that you can do here is you can actually Record without any regard to setting gain and this is the most bizarre thing You can record with levels pegging off the scale It doesn't matter because when you're finished What's actually happened is you've captured a wider dynamic range than Your dock and even capture natively So it looks like you've gone wide right off the scale Or maybe it looks like the levels are really really low when you're all finished. You just hit normalize And this this this basically throws in the face Of everything we have learned About recording right dan and I have been talking about this for years You got to set your gain correctly Proper modulation peaks between minus 12 and minus 6 on and on and on. I'll screw that this thing Don't rely on normalizing this throws all that convention out the window and now you actually use normalize to correct the levels before You start editing which is very strange It's a new way of working and I don't know I don't know dan. Do you know anybody? It's like made that a part of their Workflow yet not yet because nobody understands it yet. Yeah, it's such a new thing I I'm planning on now. I have the mic of doing a little bit more of a comprehensive video It's going to be on the george the tech set eventually And you can watch it and kind of watch me use it and learn it and you can kind of follow along And see how it works in the context of a voiceover session Um, but it's it's the new thing. It's a very unique workflow It breaks all of all of the convention and rules that we've talked about And uh, it's fascinating. It's just it's new it's new stuff And it took me quite a while to be convinced That it was a real thing. Yeah, I really thought it was a marketing buoy Oh, we were at vio atlanta and uh, we were talking to the rep from road and he demonstrated. I mean you me Uh, I think ryan was there and brian. Yeah, ryan and brian ryan brian and both of them Yeah, mike mcgonagall was in there. Yeah, mike was there and uh a few others and we're all like Yeah, we were we were impressed. We did some tests. We had um Gosh, we had uh Oh my gosh. Come on, george Our friend the the amazing You're gonna have to edit this out Finnoi oh day day finnoi was we had day finnoi there doing um, um Character uh video game. What do they call it? Battle chatter, right? Right. So he was going from really soft and like doing this to like Full-on battle cries and screaming, right? And so we had this massive dynamic range and we were able to capture it Without any clipping. It was it was quite remarkable. I I think it's going to be really helpful for people doing the game stuff Yeah, everybody asks. How do I set the game? When the character goes from very soft to very loud you set it high for you know Low for when you're yelling and you turn it up and you mark it with the I've heard of that I've heard of people like recording all their loud stuff and then all their soft stuff Right with this you don't have to do the soft stuff at first because it's you do the loud stuff save your voice Save your voice right a little quieter than loud, right? And and but with this you you can basically record it in whatever order you want You don't have to mess with any game. So that's the that's the cool thing about it So because I have this microphone here. I wanted to talk about another thing We always talk about how with side-addressed studio mics that you talk into the side with the logo, right? This one here. This is the mojave, right? Which side is the logo? Is it facing you? It's facing the logo is facing Dan that mic over the the harlan hogan vo1a We've got a sticker on the back and the logo is facing you, right? Not this mic and this mic the road nt1 has caused more confusion about mic placement than any other microphone I've had a few of those this week Have you not I do get a sample and it sounds like the mic's backwards Do you ask them if they have a road nt1? Right Are you talking into the gold dot? Why am I supposed to? You have to talk into the gold dot. So if I turn this mic around I'll mute it so it doesn't sound horrendous You'll see here. There's a gold dot, right? That represents the front of the mic Do you see how I sound now? Pretty awful pretty bad, right? That's the front of the microphone now the side facing me now Has the brand the logo the model Right, and so I was talking about this with a few other guys and we figured out that this is just road's play and making sure the branding Is facing the webcam Brilliant, right, but it's super confusing. So make sure you know what side of the mic you're speaking into Don't assume it's the branding because sometimes it ain't make sure you know It's really important good to know another thing is uh dan talks about whistle all the time What it's supposed supposed to sound like right w i s t s l right and so it spells out so uh today I was working with a client and you know We we spent some time because he had just got a brand new mic. It was a 41 6 416 and we were trying to get the placement right. There's a there's a trick to getting that mic placed correctly It sounds okay If it's wrong, but it sounds great if it's right, right? So we spent some time and we got it in the right spot. He recorded a clip I said you nailed it. That sounds exactly like what it's supposed to sound like I said save that clip and call it Your whistle reference what it's supposed to sound like I'd never thought to do this before you probably have thought of this and thought why wouldn't you do this? But I never thought of that and so this is just my takeaway Once you work with dan me or any and you get that mic Dialed and it's exactly in the sweet spot record a sample save it on your desktop somewhere You're gonna find it call it your reference or your whistle reference or whistle file Right, you can always go back and take a listen because you you you'll take these sessions with us Then you'll go off to with your life, you know, you'll go on vacation. You'll go Oh, I forgot about how to do that Yeah, or you haven't looked at the mic in a month or two because you're still kind of kicking that You know, you're still gaining into it. You're not in a routine You're gonna completely forget where that mic was or what it was supposed to sound like So keep a whistle file And so you have a reference because you got to listen You got to be really familiar with the way you're what you actually sound like on that microphone So just a little fun tip Another little quicky quicky Good friend of the show and and client Jonathan Grant. He's been spot. He's been one of the names we read at the end of the show for years He said I've been trying to chase a buzz out of my studio for a long time He's a very technical guy, right? So he's thinking I'm losing my mind. I have tried everything In the end. What was the problem? His ups the uninterrupted Uninterruptible power supply the backup battery backup battery exactly and those are we get a lot of time we get those to Not only protect equipment so but also to clean up this power Because a lot of them have built-in power filtering Turns out that was causing his buzz He eliminated every other source The one thing that you're thinking is the thing that should make things sound better Was actually causing him trouble. So if you're in that situation and no matter what you try you hear a little bit of a In your file and you're going ah unplug everything Disconnect that ups plug directly into the wall or another power source and check that because that could be your problem Right. We've always been saying that, you know If you've got an electrical buzz and you look at what's the frequency of the buzzing It gives you an idea of where it probably is Yeah, it's just when when you've eliminated which he did he tried cables microphones interfaces He eliminated everything through process of elimination That was the surprise. It was actually the power source that he was plugged into I'm gonna put that in my notebook and when that comes up lock that one away I'll put it in my whistle. So speaking of noise You were going to talk weird noises Yeah, uh It seems like you know people are always calling me and and emailing me and saying i'm gonna help my home studio I don't know how to do it but a lot of times It's something's wrong You know like that t-shirt you have that says i'm here because you broke something Oh, I need another one of those shirts. Okay, i'll get you one for you. Thanks for reminding me to put that in my t-shirt store It's fascinating the different noises that people Have in their in their studios now. There's a difference between physical noise and electronically introduced noise I you know, I could tell this story, but when I was doing a radio remote once and We were right next to a competitors transmitter And they were hearing the other station Over my microphone and we could not figure it out And then we realized it's there was a there was a grounding issue the bad cable And if you got a bad cable you're gonna get rf, especially if you're right next to their transmitter Oh, yeah, it's gonna leak in probably somewhere around here. In fact, right sometimes putting your hand Around the bottom of the mic It goes away right So that's it's one of those weird things that that can happen if you're gonna get a you know A sound like that or for you hear music or you hear a radio station Uh, yeah, of course if you can hear the radio station over that chances are you're being irradiated by an FM signal because you're darn close To the transmitter pretty strong transmitter pretty close to you. Yeah I mean the station I used to work for had the transmitter was downtown And anywhere downtown you would hear that station no matter what you were listening to and hear at your teeth. Yes, exactly I've never had that happen to me, but I've heard that that actually I I for I hear it when people are driving by going Yeah, that's broadcasting. You know that you can that you can hear with your teeth, but But how do you determine what's wrong when you've got a buzz? Or a hum Or a click Well, it's amazing remember a couple years ago There was this thing where they there was a sentence that they they would you would listen to and people were hearing different words Oh, um, oh, yeah, it was um Yes, yes, and then the other word was Do you remember? I don't remember you either heard the phrase yanni or the name yanni or you heard a different name, right exactly People hear things differently and they describe them differently So people will say I got a buzz Well, they'll send me a file, right? That's not a buzz. That's a hum Or someone says I have a hum and I wasn't that's not a hum. That's a buzz Or that's a click or yeah, you know There's so many different sounds that could be introduced in a home studio because It is literally impossible to soundproof a home voiceover studio unless you invest a tremendous amount of money you know Also remember don't put the cart before the horse if you're if you haven't booked any work yet Your booth is not your priority. No soundproofing is not the top priority. No, no So you don't need quiet on demand yet, right? Eventually you will eventually and if you if you need quiet on demand chances are you can afford to have quiet on Yeah, but you've got to determine. Is it a physical noise or is it a an electronically induced noise Now generally I you know, I put on a pair of headphones and I'll listen I know what airflow sounds like And yeah, it's you know, and it's at a very specific frequency You might have a whoosh or you might have a low hum Right or a combination right right and I'll look at a spectrograph and I can see the different patterns in there It's like if something's a repeating pattern, it's like, oh, I know that's an air conditioner motor Or it's a ceiling fan in the neighbor's uh living room or something along those lines You've got to listen and and really Try and get an idea of what you think it is or at least train yourself For what is a physical noise and what is a An an electronically induced noise. So someone says they've got a humming and I'll listen and I'm like, well, it's not a humming It's your air conditioner is on You're like, oh, oh, how did that happen? Like there's something wrong with my audio. No, there's something wrong with the studio You're in yeah, so be careful with that and another issue that can come up is that you might be hearing that noise In playback right, but it's not in the recording right That happens a lot. Yeah, and it's like well, I don't hear it It's like the better of the two right exactly the files you're sending out right the clean But whenever you play it, you're going to hear no, I don't hear anything what's going on It's like, you know, what and then my question is how are you listening to it back? What is your playback system are you listening on headphones? You're listening on studio monitors with your interface all these questions because asking questions is how you troubleshoot If not this then this then this and for a lot of people the only other thing They're gonna have to play it back on is probably a phone. That's right, you know, which is where most auditions are probably listened to on anyway, right? But so Learn the difference between physical noise and electronic noise and that will help you troubleshoot But of course if you can't troubleshoot it yourself You can get ahold of one of us. We'll figure it out Most of the time will sniff out the noise mostly We have a I've been stumped occasionally where I just send it out to a bunch of people Guys, this is driving me nuts. What do you guys think this is? That's what was happening to jonathan. Yeah, we need to bring back bad audio of the week Yeah, maybe we have to give it a new name so people are more likely to submit their audio files Hmm. Let me think I still like the name battle of the week. Yeah. Yeah, we had some real fun ones But that was like 10 years ago. I know I know but why we stopped it. 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So anyway head over to source dash elements dot com Get your account become familiar be source connect ready for that big gig that might come down the pipe Thanks so much for your support source elements and we'll be back after a couple more spots You know, I don't think there have been two consecutive letters spoken more often in the last couple of years than ai And spoken in a very dangerous way because of the danger posed by ai and synthetic media Uh voice face. It's it's all crazy, right? I think we should have that conversation But I also think we should have a conversation about how to protect yourself how to gain knowledge about artificial intelligence and synthetic voices And also the potential gifts the potential positives the potential Good things that can happen when you familiarize yourself with what ai is how it works and how it can be used And so i'm going to do that. I've got a new class coming up on the 17th of august It's going to be absolutely free. It's going to be called getting started in vo thriving in the ai world I'd love for you to join me go to voheroes.com slash go That's voheroes.com Slash go and i'll see you there This is bill radner and you're enjoying voice over body shop with dan lennard and george widham vobs.tv And we're back Yes, we is to answer your questions Which you still have plenty of time to put into the chat room and jeff holman will get it to us So that's right. Let's go to the first question from justin ramos. Go for it. All right Thanks for the question on youtube justin. Um, I moved into a new place and the house has a Floor crawl space. So the floor is hollow right in the closet. I was going to set up my booth So, I mean there must be a hatch the hatch in the floor in the booth It's a full two feet below Should I avoid that closet and do a different room? Well, I mean the thing is The only way to answer that question would be to know what the other rooms are You obviously pick that closet for a reason it must be the Well, let's assume it's the quietest closet in the house Yeah, hopefully in an interior closet with no exterior walls, right exactly And if that's why you picked it then it's probably still the best closet to use in the house Um in terms of the crawl space, I would just put a heavy Like a heavy floor mat over the whole thing and just cover the whole thing How often do you have to go down there? Hopefully not very often Honey the the pilot light went out if that happens to you. Sorry if you got to go in the crawl space But if you don't have to go in there, maybe more than once a year Yeah, just cover the whole thing with like a nice heavy Rubberized floor mat, you know and then throw a rug over it or something that should dampen it Yeah, you'll be fine. I wouldn't do anything more than that. Again, if that is the best option for you Treat it that way and you'll be fine. I mean, I if you've got a room that's just as good Consider it, but we can't recommend changing rooms unless you truly have a far better option in your home, you know Good question though. All right next one's patricia. Yes Always is always has a good question She says, uh, please cover the nose thunk thing that sound like a tiny tweak or squeaky I see clearly when editing what's best to avoid I that happens to me a lot. Yeah, okay, but some people it's real prominent. Yeah Like like if you you squeal an s And it over modulates or something like that That's why a spectrogram is really cool because you can see these things and you can just highlight it and hit You know silence and it creates a nice crossover. You don't even know it was there Do you like to use the silence in Spectro view or auto healing? I use auto heal most of the time But auto heal is kind of limited because it's it has to be in a certain space You can't it can't be really long like a half second or something like that But it takes out those thumps. Now. What are those thumps? I've heard, you know rhino otolaryngologists remember that word Joel Bernstein, yeah What is a rhino otolaryngologist it's an ear nos and throat doctor Anyway, I said what causes that and I've heard a billion different things. What causes it I the best the best one I heard was it is literally a sonic boom because what happens is It only happens when you are exhaling while you're talking Which you because you're wait a minute exhaling while you're talking. Isn't that what you normally do? but sort of But at the end of a sentence sometimes You know it A little air leaks out little air leaks out. That's what you get a thump or a squeak or something along those lines Is it happening though up here? No, it's happening in here. It's happening here. It's happening in your sinuses. Yeah, usually, you know, right Right, you know, what's that area call your septum? It's right in that area there And you know your air is moving through there very very rapidly and it can cause Thumps and squeaks and stuff like that. How do you get rid of them? One relax learn when you make those noises And I mean I can hear myself doing it now Recognize the sound recognize what it feels like right try not, you know, Debbie Dairyberry was always talking about it last week, you know Chris Chris last time was talking about it You know when you're throwing your voice in different parts of your head like if you're talking way up here You go like that or if you're talking way down here. It's gonna come from down here and so what you want to do is Learn how to breathe properly and And and try not to talk through your nose. Yeah a lot of people in nasal talkers people who are nasal talkers Getting lots of thumbs from that That's generally what it is And you know, it's like well people from New York talk like that. I'm like, no people from Los Angeles talk like that It doesn't matter. It's not geographical, right, right But what you you know in a spectrogram in say adobe audition, it's easy to take those things out But you have to recognize them Yeah and recognize the pattern of what it is and then take it out Yeah, there's there they have not figured out and I think it's only a matter of time before they do And some kind of smart ai type filter that can recognize those things And remove them to some degree, right, but there's nothing yet. There's not a de clicker No, that can remove those well you can train that you can train these things Can you it's like take a sound sample and then remove that that thing throughout Personally, you know, my philosophy is always Make sure that it is physical What is the physical source and get rid of the physical source try not to rely on technology to get rid of it Yeah, but there is stuff that you can use to so that sound Does it vary in volume based on how loud you're speaking Versus a mouth click, which is more of a sort of just a mechanical sound But mouth clicks generally come from dehydration, right But those don't vary in volume No, no, it's just when you make it click right it's but the thump. Does it vary in volume? Or is it when you hear is it pretty much always consistent? Okay, because I'm always it's the same thing and I'm the right distance from the mic and that's always what I'm gonna hear Yeah, yeah, so here's the other thing about that When we're talking to other people They don't hear it They really don't because we're not talking, you know You know five inches from their eardrum and they aren't sitting there listening to you with headphones Extremely high quality studio head front. So generally, you know, I'm you know, I've heard commercials where I hear it And I've heard e-learning stuff where I hear it Don't concern yourself too much unless it's really really prominent for some people If somebody else listens to that sample, you know, and the first thing they say Was what was that noise, right? Then maybe it's something to worry about if they listen to the take or the whatever it is and go I didn't hear anything and you go Well, I heard it and it happens at one minute and then it's probably not something to be too concerned about Same with mouth noises and other little human flaws Like don't be overly large. They're just human. Yeah, don't be overly obsessed to concern about because these are also what makes you human And also what further differentiates you from everybody else an ai voice That too, right? You know would be absolutely flawless. So all righty. Thank you for asking. Yeah, eddie furie eddie. How you doing? Hey eddie What are your guys thoughts on the zoom h6? Thank you For what? Yeah, well, you know, if you're a field recording, you know, you're getting bird sounds great for that It's a great piece of kit. I mean, uh Yeah, you can use it as a handheld recorder You can use it as a multi-track recorder because it records six tracks You can use it as an audio interface because it has a usb It's fine. I mean, I I haven't used it enough in comparison with the usual suspects like the scarlet and etc But my understanding is that they're most current stuff like the h6 I think the an is the newest one. Maybe. Yeah, is it the preamps are Perfectly clean. Yeah, they're fine. You know, it's not really easy to use though. Yeah user interface wise It's a little funky because it's like, okay, this go run through this menu and do that Right. It's so much easier just to use a regular interface But if you got an h6 eddie And you know how to use it Go for it. Yeah, it'll sound fine. It's just it's just I wouldn't recommend that wouldn't be the first thing I'd recommend I would recommend a lot of those things but if that's what you got which I happen to know that eddie I think does have one You know, it's perfectly fine and and if you're if you're going to record away from the computer Or the computer you're using is unreliable sometimes a standalone recorder the one that uses flash cards micro us micro sb sd cards Like this can be a better choice. Absolutely. Can't if you feel like I can't trust my Computer last time I did this. I had a glitch or whatever This would be a better alternative because it does one job Chords audio and stores it on a memory card and that just automatically makes it more reliable than a computer for a lot of people Absolutely Oh the memory card issue that I ran into About on a zoom Which one which issue each Each um zoom will only allow a certain it um Like you can't go higher. You have to look at their grid Yeah, because some of them you can't go higher than like 64. Oh, yeah, like yeah when you're buying memory cards Right, make sure you buy one that's compatible. You got to look at the manual or go online And make sure you buy his memory card. That is the right size and class For that product or it just won't even show up. Right. Yeah, so good point. Thanks. Yeah, yeah Yeah, it's time for time for the jeff cam Time for jeff cam. Yeah, there he is Here I am. All right. What's your question? You're on the air. Go ahead Don't listen to your radio What do you guys think of the built-in mic in an iphone for video recording? Like do I really need an external mic for recording on camera auditions? It depends how far away it is Yeah, three feet less than three feet. We're talking two and a half feet max pretty sure Will you toss me that microphone? It is just to your right That one right right but next to your hand now, right? All right, right, right forward. Yes that guy if you would hand that to george Yes, so the microphone the microphone on the iphone 12 or any of the new phones Um, isn't a microphone. It's actually an array of microphones. You know, there's like three at least three microphones Oh, wow It's doing something called beam forming and it's like So if you're speaking at the selfie cam it's going to focus the pickup towards the selfie cam if you're speaking on the Back-facing cam. It's going to focus it towards the back right does all this stuff automatically And it sounds remarkably good And I but it's only going to be good if the acoustics are good And I know you've done a lot of work to get your acoustics How how's it sounding in there now with all the stuff you've added to the room? Uh, actually, I haven't put them. I haven't put it all together I've got all the ingredients and I just okay put it all Well, it's it's all about acoustics at the end of the day But the microphones build into any modern iphone iphone 10 11 11 12 13 Are really good. Um, and so it really does come down to acoustics And the only way you're going to get something that sounds better is to use a specific You know mic just for like like a little just as the video might go to right made in australia Yeah, by road the gold dots here. You don't talk to it like that though exactly that. Well, yeah, see there they There's the gold dot right there. Am I supposed to speak into the No, they should put the gold dot right here. Come on road I'm gonna talk to those you're thinking, you know And but it's it's also got this little vu meter on it because if you talk loudly it'll turn red So you're a little this is a great mic for for doing that You know, I was noticing the other day as I was sitting on the table in my Acupuncturist office Because I like to listen to music while I'm you know having needles stuck in me I would too actually. Yeah, and I and I'll take my phone and I'll put it behind my head like this And then I suddenly realized It was in real discreet stereo Oh, yeah, yeah the sound on these things is fabulous. I know it's mind blowing my girlfriend's got the 13 pro max And she'll be just watching a video over on the couch and I'll be like holy cow. That sounds amazing I'm on the 11 and it's fine. Yeah, and she plays it on hers and it's like a whole different ball It's like unbelievable. And then the stereo is amazing. It even has like a Spatial. Oh, absolutely going like how does it sound like that coming out of a phone? It's pretty mind blowing. Yeah, I'm pretty amazed. So does that answer your question follow up question to that George, didn't you say you had problems? Uh recording videos with that mic specifically like sometimes you I did have trouble at vio Atlanta Um in hindsight, I should have used the road has their own Video app right just for using their microphones. Yeah, is that what it's called road connect? Yeah And um in hindsight, I probably should have used that yeah, um because I mean I was using what I was familiar with which is the built-in video app But if I'd used that it would have probably been a more of a guarantee That it was going to work without any issues. I actually just got a new road product. I got a road wireless me They make these little square wireless microphones now that are very popular right the go the wireless go-to, right? So I got the the the bargain one. It's called the me And I got it because the receiver is also a microphone So you put the little receiver on top of your iPhone or whatever you put the transmitter over on your subject Their mics they're being heard and then the mic on my phone is also being heard So I can interview or talk Vlog whatever and and actually capture both sides and you know that you're you're hearing it and you know that it's right Right, right. So I'm going to be using that at uh one voice Uh conference coming up this weekend, which by the time you're hearing this was last weekend And uh, I'll be playing around with that but Is that necessarily better than the mic on the phone? I don't know it really does depend on the room What you're doing how far away from the camera you are But I think if you're I think you're if you're within two to three feet You might find the built-in microphone Sounds quite good You know, I think it sounds awesome and so many people are like you need an external mic Yeah, you know, I mean if it sounds good, it is good. You know, we always say. All right. Thanks. Yeah, totally All right, art knedle has a it's probably art needle, but there's a k there So I'll call our knedle tonight your knedle. So Okay, go for it. We have knoble's grove in pennsylvania. It's really kno it's knoble's grove So we could say that um is using a mic's high pass filter the same as a destructive edit Um, when would I want to use it versus a manual equalizer edit in post? Not a bad question. That's a good question. Um Yeah, well it is destructive if we say it's destructive because The audio captured with that filter is permanent, you know, once it's there, it's there forever Yeah, you are printing quote-unquote printing the effects, right? So it's permanent. It's always going to be there. So from that Strictly using that definition. Yes, it is a destructive edit. It's always there um You really it's it's another one of those if it sounds good at a good thing if if you like the way that audio sounds using the low cut Slash high pass they mean the same thing whatever the mic company calls it If you think it sounds clean and good and you're not losing too much of the low end octave of your voice I say use it. It means that the original raw file will be a little cleaner. There'll be less Rumble and junk you have to clean out of the file when you're Editing if you want to have a little bit more granular control really get into it Then turn off that high pass filter and then use a software one where you can very finely tune it and Dial it in to fit your voice. Then you'll have a non-destructive process and you do use a high pass filter if you've got like a You know below 80 hertz rumble, which most air conditioning and stuff is if you're an apartment building guarantee you had some of that Yeah, it's amazing how much that'll reduce your noise floor though without affecting your voice That's right. A lot of that when you hit play and you see the view meter bouncing around in the room tone Most of the time it's mostly low end noise. That's giving you a tremendously high Meter reading so when somebody sends me a sound for a sound check If I see like minus 50 minus 45 on the on the room tone First thing i'll do is actually apply a low cut and just see Did the level drop precipitously? Sometimes it does sometimes it drops like 10 to 15 db just from doing that, you know a low cut and a high pass filter are the same thing Yes, that's right. They're both used interchangeably and it's the same concept. So yeah, good question side note art lives in pennsylvania Hey, then you might know where connoble's grove is and his name is probably conneedle We need to know put it phonetically into chat so you know how we're saying your name Uh, is this the last one? Yeah, it is. Yeah, Ellen C says I just bought the rote NT 1 5th gen Just to get this right 32 bit float is only available on the usb connection. Yep, correct. That's all for tonight folks If you were listening a little while ago, george was explaining 32 bit float. Yeah, that is true It is it is a special built-in feature That will only be usable when when using the usb Connection as soon as you go back to a standard conventional XLR You're bypassing all of that magic circuitry And it's now just a regular good sounding Great sounding studio mic and so that it has two personalities So you're gonna find that one ways may work better for you and you're gonna have to compare them and experiment and see What works better for you. Yeah, and and and like I tell people go out and play Play with it. See what it does break anything. No, yeah, of course. No, you're not gonna break anything Just experiment test, you know road put a lot of time effort and money into God, I can't imagine what the the circuits in there look like because they must have shoved All sorts of stuff in there, but it's got different preamps and you know, you know, yeah You know And a DAC, ad converters and all that stuff and yeah What they like I said, what they didn't put in there is probably even more interesting There is not a headphone amp or any knobs or any other jacks So they chose that to for various reasons maybe to keep the cost down Maybe to keep the signal path as clean as possible Whatever the reason is But all that is going on inside a little circuit board inside the microphone Yeah, so good question too. We've got a lot of good questions Lots of good questions. You can tell a lot of these folks listen every week. So they're trying to come up with something new Which is great. Yeah, we're not getting the same questions. 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