 Yes, we're here Chris Shearn and I got to tell you it's it's so nice to see the face of Ryan Ruko I cannot begin to tell you. It's been so long. It seems like the Nets played ten years ago, buddy It's just great to see your face and talk a little sports with you pal Yeah, you too, man, and how about to see my head? I'm like you now man. I joined You know what I wonder if you followed a similar path like so, I mean Pathless about a quarter century But but let me ask you this so beginning a quarantine I Realize like like okay. I'm not gonna be able to get a haircut and like I've been wanting to maybe do this anyway and Because I already faced certain limitations with right I could do with my hair, you know And so I like I start off with like a two, you know, and I'm like I got you I like this and then I'm like Let me see what a one look and I go to the one and then all of a sudden my fiance Andrew is like I love it short You should try to be sure so I go to like the eighth of an inch and then slow and then finally I was like forget it I'm taking out the razor and I'm just gonna see what the thing looks like with it totally shaved And you know what it's the favorite incarnation of my fiance me. I think the general public So I'm going with it man Well, let me tell you and this is the God's honest truth You need to have a nice head if you do this and thank the good lord above both of us Yeah, have that nice contoured head shape dome, right? Yes and face where we could pull this look off and make it look Good, we're like the men in black, but we're the men in bald and I like that like like Will Smith said we make this So funny man And and I mean I guess it's a little maintenance as far as like, you know shaving in the shower every morning or whatever But oh my gosh, what a relief Chris how much easier is life when you got a bald head? It's a beautiful thing and now you could work in the goatee every once in a while See now you could have the evil Ryan and the good Ryan like I have the evil Chris and the good Chris The good Chris is back as you could see I see that Howard cross our former colleague Yes, used to call me when I did sideline for Ivy League football. He called me a lighthouse He would he would used to have me spin around on the sideline because my head was like the light bringing ships home Oh, thank you for that Howard and and it's nice of you to join the club Ryan I wasn't gonna bring it up, but I was gonna tell you it looked good Hey, I appreciate that and I am so happy to be a part of the club The real reason why we did want to do this is because we're both heavy into podcasts and you have a Tremendously successful one with CC sabatia, which is fantastic because you know when you get CC in the locker room He's he's great. He never holds anything back in a locker room, but there's always that line He doesn't cross maybe one once or twice He has but when you get him on that podcast Ryan It is amazing because you get the full CC the full package and you two together How good you are and how open and honest he is and all of your guests are tremendous I mean you guys have built something so special. Thank you, man. Thank you for saying that Chris I mean, I think The cool thing is what you were just talking about right how open and honest CC is like that just makes all The difference in the world because first of all It allows us to get great content from him himself, right because he's not holding back at all You know, the cool thing was we didn't we started it, you know While he was still an active player But while he had already Basically accomplished everything that he had wanted to right so he he already has this personality of like kind of being as you Talked about being open and honest, but then he was able to cross whatever threshold He was holding back on you know for the general media In our podcast I think because he was at a point this career, it's like I've done everything I wanted to do You know, I'm so comfortable with who I am. He talks about all the time. It's funny We did just did an Instagram live for MLB with our to see to it. I saw that yeah, yeah And I asked myself when did you get this like this total comfort with just being honest being yourself? Whatever and he said honestly it came after rehab, you know when he came back from alcohol rehab That's when he realized I have nothing left to hide. Everybody knows what I just went through, you know And I am so comfortable with owning my journey and I mean Chris, you know From doing podcasts as well the best thing that we can give our audience is a True comfortable and honest look at things and a setting where the guests feel like they can you know Let the guard down and well that themselves That's the thing you know as well as anybody if you're calling an NBA game, for example There's just so much conversation you could have you have to pay attention to the game If you're doing an in-studio interview if you're doing the pre or post game show and you have somebody on you know It's it's time. You got to be in and out by a certain time There's always that fear of the time running out and you really can't get into the full conversation That's the great thing about podcasts and that's the great thing about your podcast is that you could Unzip a person and get in there and you could go to different areas of that person Get almost everything and if you didn't get everything Something you open maybe you want to go down that path with them you get them on next time you go down that path and that opens more doors That's the beauty of having that Conversational back and forth the way you have with CC some of the coolest stuff for us is like when we get done with With Michael Strayhand or Alper right holes or you know, John Lester and at the end. They're all like or Manny Machado They're like wow that was so much fun. I want to do that again or like it doesn't even feel it doesn't even feel like it lasted an hour No, it feels like it was ten minutes. It goes like that fun. Exactly exactly like I remember somebody We had I think this year when we had Austin Roman He was like he looked up at the clock and he was like, oh, no 45 minutes has gone by This is how it goes so fast, you know, like and that's the feeling you want from your guests You know and and I'll say this and this is one thing and I probably don't bring this up Enough when people ask about like origins of the podcast and stuff But I think it's so essential to why we've been able to you know Do what we've done thus far and build a little following and and you know and have um, you know Moderate success with the podcast. Oh, come on. Don't be don't be modest It's not it's not the Joe Rogan experience, right? Right, but we've done, you know, it's been it's been good But I really think the number one reason why has been CCC's commitment to it because what you've seen from other You know athletes who have you know undertaken this while they're playing is they at some point fall off, right? Oh, it's tough. Yeah, because because you have a million other things going on, you know And and this isn't their main priority nor should it be you know But CC has found a way it seems like a release for him. Yeah, it's like a release He's doing it man. He loves doing it And so that to me is the thing I'm most grateful for because his commitment to it gave us a chance to actually grow it and If he's not so engaged and invested in it well, then it doesn't happen like I mean I've seen any I've seen it with so many different athletes who could be great at this But like, you know, they have a million things going on and so they they want to do it But they're not able to fully jump in CC fully jumped in and I think that has really been to our benefit on the pop And the name obviously comes from Star Wars and Ryan Ruko R squared CC. Sabathia C squared I know you're like this huge Star Wars fan So I know that's where the genesis of the name came from but is CC the same is see a huge Star Wars fan, too Huge man huge and it's funny because we were like on a group chat with our family and friends when we were trying to come up with a name and my dad was the one who said R2C2 and And I texted CC. I was like, hey, I think your name should be first But what do you think about this and he was like, that's it. He's like, I don't care about my name being first that's the winner man that is absolutely the winner and Just to give you an idea of how diehard Star Wars CC is he just got done rewatching every single Star Wars movie in order of which he does at the start of every baseball season Wow, he hasn't been able to do obviously they didn't have the baseball season. So he's finally like I got to do it and and so he He just got done doing that and he's he's such a big fan that he wants to watch Clone Wars Which is an animated series and it's Jeff Flagliata our head of research Amber won't let him why she's like, I can't you can't do the animated thing. Okay, I can't have it here So he can't wait till he's back on the road because he's been planning to watch Clone Wars on the road And he's like, I can't watch it in my home, but I need to see it. So he is hardcore Thank you so much. It was so nice to see your face. So nice to just talk about something else Other than being locked away in our house as we appreciate the time as always Thanks a lot, buddy. Of course my man and I'm glad we were able to finally get the council together to talk about The proper techniques when it comes to shaving one's head Absolutely