 Hello, everyone, and welcome to this week's Everton show. Well, there's no bigger week in the football calendar, is there, than the week of a Merseyside Derby. It's the 99th league meeting at Gwreson Park, and the 231st meeting of Everton and Liverpool in total. And where do you win? To tell us exactly how we'll get that win, and to bring us up to date with this brand new role at the football club. I'm delighted to welcome Stephen Peane or back to you, SM Finchforn, a brand new Everton ambassador. A brand new, nice, thanks. I'm looking forward to being involved with the club again. It's been two years now, so I'm coming back as a different person, not as a player. You still look as a weaker player, by the way. But you loved it here, didn't you? Yeah, definitely. I think if I look back in my career, the eight years I spent at the club was special for me, and this is where I actually enjoyed most of my football, if I look back in the last 17 years. You'll be working with our main partner Sport Pacer a lot out in South Africa. The passion for football in South Africa, the whole of Africa, is enormous, isn't it? Yeah, the passion. Football brings everyone together in Africa. Obviously, in South Africa, the Premier League is so massive, a lot of passionate supporters back home. For me, it will be good to get the name of the club out there, and doing a lot of work, and trying to get more support to the club. Was it an easy decision for you to make, Stephen, when the club approached you? When I first got a call from my manager at the time, I was sitting in the garage. He called me and said, Everton, I want you to do some ambassador work. I said, get me on the plane as soon as possible. I was looking forward to it, and for me as well, coming to the end of my career. I have a lot of time to think what you want to do, and I think it's a perfect match for me. It's a great win-win situation, because you're a big name in South Africa. We want to become a big name in South Africa, so we can work together. A big name? I'm not so sure if I am, but now it's good for me and also for the club. I said, back home, there's a lot of passionate supporters that support the game. If I can recall, a lot of people were following Everton, so it would be good to go back and mobilise them a bit, get them to know more about the club, and get a history of the club out there for them as well. You're looking forward to going back to Goodison Park again? Yes, the last time I left, I didn't quite set, because I didn't get an opportunity to go out. I knew what was happening at the time, and now I'm really looking forward to it, because it's been two years. Going back for a Derby game is even extra special. Goodison Park is a special place. adjacent to Goodison Park is St Luke's Church, and that's where earlier this week, our new stadium designer, Dan Mice, met up with a selection of Evertonians. To talk about a project, he's very excited about it. It's really been incredible. I think it exceeded our hopes in just about every way. One, there was a great attendance, and it's a big commitment for people to come down in the middle of the day and spend the time and not know exactly what they were going to be seeing. So while we weren't able to show everything about where we are or where it's heading and exactly what it's going to look like, I thought we got great feedback and great reaction to explaining how we've taken the input and the survey so far and the key principles, and really that is deriving the design. It's a unique thing to design a building that is so much about passion, and it's not just another project. I often get very engaged in the history of a club that I'm working with or a team, but what's unique about this is that the history of Goodison is so deep and visceral, that the first time I was at the building, I really felt that, and the idea of the notion that this club really is the representative of the community and the people, that's very infectious as an idea, and so it's really turned into something I've never experienced in my career, that it's like being the most committed fan and then having the responsibility and the opportunity to think about what is our new home. That's Dan Maes talking about the future, but let's speak a little bit more about Goodison Park. You must have some terrific memories of playing there. Yeah, my first home game for the club was special. When I came on for 15 minutes against Wigan, it was a special moment. The welcome I got from the supporters from me was really, you know, it touched me from the first day. Obviously, when I came back the second time my first home game against Chelsea, for me it was also, I was quite nervous that day. I was because I didn't know what kind of reception I'll get coming back, but as soon as I scored, everything was, I was forgiven actually. It was actually a fabulous moment, wasn't it, to score an early goal against a team like Chelsea? Yeah, and at the time they were playing quite well, and for me it was, you know, like I said, it was a special moment and also to score in it, in that game, you know, go to the supporters back on my side again, and it helped us out, so, but it was a special moment. When you first came to the club on loan from Brusia Dortmund, it got under your skin straight away, didn't it? You were affected by Everton Football Club quite quickly, and wanted to make the move permanent. Yeah, as soon as I joined up with the guys in LA, you know, the manager, the players, the way they received me, it, you know, just felt like I want to be here, I want to play for this club, and, you know, since that day, just everything just, it was like a match. Just tell us a little bit about your partnership with Leighton Baines, because the Evertonians still speak about it now. Yeah, wherever I go, I think everyone's asking about it. Yeah, I think it's just the chemistry was just natural. We both are hardworking players, and when we go out on a field, we want to leave everything there. And for us, you know, the understanding just became more like when you get a girlfriend. At first it was just, the romance was just there like on the field, and I enjoyed it actually, you know, playing with him. Does you have to work hard at it on the training ground, or did it just happen? No, it just happened. Like I said, you know, if you're honest player, you go out and you want to get better every day when you're out on the training field, and I think that's what we were doing on the field when we're training. So, and just in the games, it just looked easy. But like I said, it's a lot of hard work on the pitch during the week leading up to games. So, yeah, and obviously having brains behind me, it's easy to play with in me, you know, and sometimes his humor was also getting to me. Now it was really good. Like I said, just the hard work on the training field that played off when we played in matches. You played with some great players, some great guys, you feel level, Tim Howard, Jakubu, Joseph Yobo, Tim Cahill. Yeah, you know, great players. And when I came, they were all like really friendly to me, got into the group quite well and quickly as well. And yeah, like I said, they helped me a lot to settle down as well. Big Yobo was the one showing me around town where to go if I wanted to cut my hair. So, you know, all those things off the field, you know, it shows the players one, two years, they want to help you settle in. And that helped me a lot. So, yeah, like with Phil coming in early in the morning, always being on my case. So, yeah, you know, that kind of thing as a team, it was quite good for me. Great players and great days. We're going to hear now from one of your midfield successes, Tom Davis. He's been telling us about his journey from the academy through to the first team. Wach nawd y cwdyswn. I think it's one of the best feelings I get. Ever since been in my life since, I can remember really, since I was a kid. So, yeah, to actually be going out onto the pitch does mean a lot to me. More than I can really put into words. And I do everything for this club to come on and play my first game. My cwdyswn was unbelievable. The fans were crazy. It's just surreal really, because you're not watching it. You're actually coming on to be part of it. So, for me, it's just, I always say that in the moments I don't take them in enough. And I think if I was the 11-year-old me again, I don't think you would have been able to get his head around it. It's happened, and I'm grateful for that, yeah. I think when we come off, we were just, again, both buzzing. And then in the changes, just having a laugh and a joke. I think it was after we'd done an interview and I couldn't stop laughing at them. I'll go to you first, Kevin, because you played the moment. How did you find that? I can't really describe it. I just thought we've, from where we've come from, to where we are now, it's just unbelievable. I think that was when it was hitting me how well we'd actually done it, and where we were in our careers. This is me signing my first contract. And I don't think it really did hit me how big of a moment it was. Obviously, my mum and dad are buzzing. I'm buzzing myself. Look back, that was a big stage in my career. This one's with my mum and dad, obviously, and I owe them everything, really. I don't think I say enough to them. It's maybe I should, but I think deep down, you know how much they mean to me, and them bringing me in from when I was a kid, and bringing me up right. It's been dad taking me in the park with my brother, just to play 40, really. And yeah, I owe them everything. Yeah, well, the first pitch is obviously when I scored my first goal, and it's like a level of happiness where you don't stand around to take your in, you're just going with it, and I think that's the perfect moment, really. I remember just watching it, thinking it's going to go in. Yeah, I just didn't know what to do after I scored, so the second one's running out, I'm running off. That's by, like, if you know me, that's me happiest, really. And you can tell how in the pitch is just joy all over me face. Scoring it from the Gladys Street, and running off to celebrate with them, just, then I think that everyone's dreaming when it's come true for me, yeah. Oh, it's great play by Davis. Wonderful skill. And on it goes for Barclay. Back for Davis. What a finish this could be. Davis, he's done it. That must be Tom Davis' goal. His first for the club. And what a wonder goal in Everton. Three up against Manchester City. That was absolutely sublime from Everton. I just love how much they care, really, with the fans. Obviously they want you to do well, but just how much they care for the club, that you can tell what they're doing. It's kind of like I'm one of them, and I can feel that when I'm playing, yeah. It could just sound like home for me, really. You know what might sound a bit. But in terms of playing football, it's our home, and it's... We have been to growing up to watch the games, where I'm playing at now as my home stadium. And yeah, it just feels like it's the right place for me to be playing. When I do go out there, I feel confident. I feel like I've got everyone behind me supporting me. And that helps me play to me best, really, yeah. Have you seen much of Tom Davis, Stephen, been impressed with him? Yeah, I've been absolutely, since he came through. I remember when my last, my last training session at the club, he was training with us, and I was quite impressed with him, the way he got about his business on the field, get stuck into the senior players for a boy at that age to do that. We showed a lot of maturity at that stage. And yeah, I'm really impressed the way things have been going for him. And you can see also in his game, when he came on the last game, he made a big impact on the team as well. His energy, his awareness, you know, and it's not scared to play. You can only get better as well, can you? Definitely. I mean, he's got the world that he's seen. He's just have to stay focused and keep going. Plenty more to come from Stephen Pinar in part two of this week's Everton show. But we're going to take a short break now, coming up in that second part. Seamus Coleman looks ahead to the Merseyside Derby. Welcome back to part two. I'm in the company of Stephen Pinar here at USM Finch Farm. Let's speak a little bit about your early career, Steve. When you started off at Ajax and the famed Ajax Academy, that must have had a huge influence on your subsequent career. Yeah, in the early stages of the young player, I think that's the most important part, how you develop. And I think at Ajax, I got that part of my career quite quickly. And yeah, I worked under great managers at a club. You get into the history of the club, the way they want to play, and you develop as a young player. And for me, that was the best opportunity to develop myself in Europe. Did you play alongside Zlatan Ibrahimovic at the time? Yeah, at the time. No, he was the same that the way he is now. He's exactly the same. He didn't change much. Same. Just, you know, his character was always that big personality around all the players. And yeah, I got on quite well with him. We shared rooms when we went away on the training camp. So you knew he was going to be a superstar? No, I didn't. Obviously, you know, when he joined the club the first time, in the first few months, he was struggling to adapt to the Dutch league. And obviously, they paid a lot of money for him at the time. And he was having difficulties with it. And you know, all the players were always behind in supporting him. Things will work out. And you know, after that, it got better. And after he scored an unbelievable goal against Nagbryda, I think that set the stage for him. And yeah, from there, he just became what he is now. He pushed on. As did you. Did you enjoy the Bundesliga? Yeah, it did for me. It was a massive learning experience moving from the Dutch league. Obviously, it's a better competition compared to the Dutch league. With no disrespect to the Dutch league. But the standard is much higher. And for me, it was a perfect place to develop as well, to learn a new culture football-wise. And yeah, it was a springboard for me to come to the Premier League. And I think it prepared me physically and mentally for the biggest stage. Was that always part of your long-term plan, had you say, the Bundesliga was a step up from the Dutch league? The Premier League is a step up again? Yeah, definitely. I remember when I was playing the Champions League against Arsenal and I had some scouts coming over from the city that wanted me to join the city at the time when Stuart Pierce was the manager. And I had a meeting and I just felt it wasn't right at the time. And I said, I don't think I'm ready to jump. It's a big gap in between. And when Dortmund came, I took that opportunity because I knew for myself personally that's how I want to move up, go step by step. And it worked out quite well for me. And then David Moyes excised you to Everton? Yeah, I think he was doubting at the time. No, but to be fair to the Gaffer, he gave me the opportunity to come over and make me feel part of the special club from day one. And you always said to me, this is a family club. You'll enjoy your time here. And actually, I did. And thanks to him, he brought me to the club I think three times. So yeah, I'm happy. And I enjoyed my time under him as well. How important was it for you personally to end your playing career in South Africa? Yeah, for me, that was my dream. I started there with IXK town. And I told myself I'll retire when I'm 30 years old. I think I exceeded that. I went past 30. So yeah, and I always said if I ever want to retire, I want to go back home. If not, if it's not IXK, then maybe a team. But as long as it's in South Africa. And I think my dream came true. I started it and I ended it there. But it didn't work out the way I wanted it. I would have liked to work away with a league title. But yeah, unfortunately it didn't. But I'm happy the way it penned out. It's what I planned. And it came, everything worked out for me. How much did you enjoy playing in the Merseyside, Darby's? Yeah, it was always one of those games. When you go out, it's tough games. And you get the hype both up two weeks before even. So I actually enjoyed it going out. And just to represent the club. And you want to go out and win. Sometimes we didn't. But it's one of those games you don't need motivation. So you know the game on its own. It's there. You just have to go out and play and make sure you roll up your sleeves. And that's what we did. You just got to get out there and get used to the atmosphere as quickly as possible. The old players used to say you didn't even need a ball for the first 10 minutes. Yeah, I remember the one at Enfield. When the game started, I think Karrigah went smash right to me. I was a bit confused after a few seconds. And after the game, the guy said when I watched it back, the guy said, welcome to the Derby. And then after that, I think I got sent all that game. So yeah, but you know, you just need to, like I said, the first tackle, whatever your first challenge, make sure you win it. And that sets the tone for the game. Plenty of big name players will be needed on the day. None more so than Jordan Pickford who of course you played with at Sunderland. Are you glad to see him here? Yeah, you know, before he signed, when I was up north, I said to him, if ever you run and move to a good club, I think Everton will fit you. And I think he took my advice. And I'm happy he joined the club. He's a great talent that you could see even in the games. He's a big part of the team. And you know, he's been making unbelievable saves during the season, even his personality, the way he wants to learn every day. And I think, you know, this is a great club to be at. Well, the last time Everton beat Liverpool was back in October 2010. It was a first Merseyside Derby appearance for Seamus Coleman. And he's certainly looking forward to this one. Yeah, you do. You definitely sense it's a different game. And you know, some people might be nervous. Some people might enjoy it, depends on the character. But you know, after 10 months out, I can't wait for that game on Saturday. And you know, going into every game, I fully believe we can win and it's the same on Saturday. And you know, if we can get the crowd behind us quite early, I think, you know, we can definitely give it a go. It must be a good challenge to test yourself against players like that. Definitely, you want to play against the best teams and the best players all the time. And they've definitely got some of the best players at the moment. And you know, it's up to us to perform as best we can and try and get, importantly, ourselves a result. And you know, knock them away from another derby, disappointed and you know, not having won it and for our fans as well. We need to step up to the plate and be counted. And you know, that has to start on Saturday. The Merseyside Derby, there was one just after you got injured and Jurgen Klopp played tribute to you in the programme saying that there's a lot to admire about you as a player, even though he doesn't really know you. Is there a lot to be said about him as a manager as well, an opposition manager coming out and saying something like that against, you know, an opposition team? Yeah, look, I was at home at the time and I think I got, I seen the pictures come through of the manager's notes and I think Jordan Henderson as well. So, you know, to put the rivalry aside for that time being was great for me to hear and it was something, you know, that I really did appreciate at the time and something that I'd like to thank both of them for. But obviously on Saturday, please God he doesn't like me as much but now it's something that I did appreciate at the time and you know, it was a good gesture. It's a massive game as well in terms of points for you guys because does it feel like that chance of European football is perhaps drifting away a little? I think obviously with Leicester winning and Burnley winning at the weekend and us losing it, it's making it more difficult but, you know, I've looked at the fixtures we have coming up and I think we can aim to get a lot of winnable games out of that and, you know, in the Premier League as everyone knows there's no easy games but I want to finish as high up as we can and, you know, me personally I'm still clinging on to the hope of getting seven depending on how we can finish the season. The manager has said he's set a 50-point target for the remaining games. Would that be a decent tally given the way that things have gone this season? I suppose what you say there is a way things have gone this season you would have to possibly say, yeah, but for Everton Football Club and what we want, you know, to start a season it's not what we would have wanted but unfortunately the way the season has went you know it probably will be okay but as I said I want to win as many games as possible and see how that takes us between now and the end of the season. So what does the future hold now for Stephen Pynard Is coaching a possibility? No, definitely not. I see a lot of my former team is getting old too quick and you know football coaching is a lot of stress and you have to be up for it and at the moment I don't think I'm up for it so I want to go into media stuff and also just go out there and encourage young kids you know that's what I want to do. And you're still in touch with your old friend Ykuubu? Yeah, I am actually with a big yag, I speak to him on a regular basis so yeah, he's also working hard in the gym to keep it. How pleased are you to see the likes of Womanias and address the gate to African players really flourishing your event? Yeah, I think obviously Joseph was here long at the club I think he's if not the longest African serving player at the club and for him you know he left something special at the club for us, for the other African players to follow and you know and I think I'm really happy that we have that connection with the club with African players and you know it's great for the club and also great for the continent of Africa. Stephen it's been a pleasure to be in your company welcome back again to Everton Football Club yet another comeback for Stephen Pynard good luck in your new role and that's just about it for this week's Everton show just time for me to remind you that Midnight on Friday is the deadline for existing season ticket holders to renew their normal seat. 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