 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go Mind pump, mind pump with your hosts, Sal DeStefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews In this episode of Mind Poop Oh, yeah, for the first 45 minutes we do our introductory conversation We talk about Emily Abbott from CrossFit and her band For performance enhancing drugs. That's right But the crazy thing is how she got them the way she administered the drugs not the normal way No, not the normal way be careful Swapping fluids. We talk about my Napa trip had a good time up in Napa Went to a castle Drink some wine and now I'm ready for this contest We talked about my mud bath we tell Justin gives us his carnivore diet Update. Yeah, is he gonna be able to hold out? Is he going to be able to keep up with the psychological warfare that's being conducted on him or is he fuck Adam and Sal? Life's good with a belly full of meat. We talked about Adam's move He might be moving pretty soon. Maybe close to Sal. Then we talked about my hangover hack, which includes activated charcoal and Organifi green juice believe it or not actually prevented a hangover We are sponsored by organifi if you go to organifi show you party people Organifi shop comm into the cone mine pump you get 20% off any organifi product including their protein Their gold juice their green juice and their pre-workout red juice We also talked about health IQ and how we're working with them again now health IQ provides life insurance for fit and healthy people if you go to health IQ comm forward slash mine pump You'll get a free quote just for you then we talked about Justin's tree house Project he's trying to win that first place in the dad contest. Yeah, good job Justin number one Then we talked about mice with human brains Is that missing Mickey Mouse little human mice ease then we talked about a new show on prime called dear Zachary and dark tourists on Netflix to shows that the boys are recommending. Yeah, then we get into the questions. The first question was This one was specifically for Adam How do you stop or reverse balding? Is it possible? What are some of the techniques that we've used actually there is something that he has used he has used That seems to benefit him. It's the juve light We are we do work with them if you go to juve comm j o o v v dot com forward slash mine pump you will get a discount on one of their Light products the next question was what is our stance on fat burners? even when you combine them with proper diet and Exercise well, we typically don't like them, but we talk about why yeah Why don't we like them and that part of this episode? I want to also mention we did mention saw Palmetto for hair loss You can find saw Palmetto at Thrive Market if you go to thrivemarket.com forward slash mine pump We've hooked you up with a free month membership $20 off your first three orders of $49 or more and free shipping The next question was this person is a personal trainer and you know, they spend an hour a day With their clients. Where's the line between being a professional and Creating a real friendship. Is it unprofessional become friends with your clients? You might be surprised the answer in that part of this episode and finally the last question a very important one Want to mention make sure everybody knows Justin pick this one. I Don't care man. The audience appreciates it. They do what is our favorite mythical creature and why find out why Adam likes Merman? 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Oh Jesus Justin Just get that last place thing did Just get comfortable right there You gotta turn it on no last place Andrews That does not have a ring to it at all. He's like I never heard that before ever. Yeah, you put it in the right hole Justin, I am. Are you sure? I swear. I feel like you're not. Oh, there we go That one was out. Is your computer turned on? Hey, I was dying yesterday watching Justin's in so good We didn't even remember what that was from. I didn't need to Locked it out. That's why I just saw all the Sylvester Stallone and the fuck I knew you'd appreciate that is again. That's me. I was watching that with Jessica We were fucking dying You know, it's funny is I can't I've been waiting for Taylor to come in so because Taylor doesn't listen to the fucking show So he won't get the joke. He has no idea how good that story is. That's only for the fans. Sorry Yeah, I'm just gonna keep doing that right if you're a listener if you know, you'll enjoy it Right, we should just a lucky loo then it's fucking doesn't make sense to you Maybe we should send our fans a DM Taylor to listen to the show. What do you say? Yeah, go on his other one was it was a table table Let's do this. Let's do this. Hey yo, I'm Tate Cuz you know, you can't tell him. No, I can't tell him that we sent you know You're the best part is we've given him like what I don't know six different Nicknames. Yeah, he calls himself Tate. Yeah Nobody calls you that You fucking called yourself that can't give yourself a nickname Listen, if you DM him don't tell him you heard on mine pump just be like, hey, is this Taylor from mine? Yeah, why don't you listen to the show? Yeah, give him shit. Okay, so here's this going that here's a Undercover Instagram well, it's not gonna be so undercover after this so it's so good. It's Tate Valens. So it's ta. It's all one word ta y v a L e n z So if you guys want you guys Yeah, it's Tate So perfect, so perfect Listen to our show man, dude. Did you guys? Oh, I want to talk about this. Did you guys hear about okay? Who's the girl that got kick out a crossfit Emily? What's her last name Emily red or something like that? Get her name real quick. Oh my god. This is good. Yes. Did you hear her excuse? Yes That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard her boyfriend from kissing him apparently her boyfriend Emily Abbott Her boyfriend and she's a big-time competitor. Yeah, right? Yeah, apparently her boyfriend took whatever substance she got caught with and then she would make out with him afterwards and Because she kissed him and it was in his mouth From an hour ago it got in her bloodstream Yeah, she tested watch out. You might get pregnant from the toilet seat. Yeah Yeah, and she got it she tested that has got to be you know what happened. She's freaking out She's like I got four years suspended right and her boyfriend's like I'll take the heat like baby listen Yeah, you know, yeah, I'll totally take the heat for you babe, you know because you're the fucking money I was like, you know She's like I gave him head and swallowed so I must have gotten Basically right, I mean can you actually make more sense? That's the you know more Own it you got caught do you got caught? Yeah, right? Cheating you ain't trying you know I'm saying you tried you got God you lost I'm saying Four years ain't fucking around. No, that's you're basically ruined. Yeah, I respect that. Yeah, you know four years as you're done Yeah, and I know what they did what they did this time is there should be a lifetime man What do you think? I think she's be like like if you're either if you're gonna play like or we need to open up Cross as they start losing money. They're gonna change that real quick I know because think about it somebody like her who probably has a pretty large following People go to watch the events want to see her compete for four years. She's done. She's out of it Yeah, you know I'm saying they could lose a lot of money Look what happened with baseball when they started getting crazy with the test things now I know I know it absolutely could yeah I wonder how well of course it is, you know I was gonna say how how advantageous is it to be taking steroids and being CrossFit, but oh, yeah The recovery side of it big time because you know because you wouldn't want to put too much weight on like you Wouldn't be taking like fucking D ball and shit. You're not gonna take something. That's gonna make you jack Yeah, like what would be the preferential right you yeah, you're gonna run things like eq and your basic test and stuff like that Something that's gonna help speed up recovery and give you like the advantage with hormone testosterone But I don't see people taking like crazy amounts of of drugs to or at least not steroids Yeah, you work for recovery because you gotta do a lot of body weight You do odd hand stains handstand stuff and I know that like when I'm big and bulky even if I'm lean Like it's it's harder to do those things. You know, it's harder to do pull-ups. It's harder to do handstand It's harder to do shit like there. Here's a you can use them in ways that are gonna benefit any physical endeavor So no, they're not gonna use these water retention, you know type anabolic steroids or whatever Did it say what she got caught with you did it say I was trying to look it up I forgot what it was, but it was a I believe it was a peptide or a psalm I think it might have been a psalm or a peptide or something like that Yeah, cuz and that's the other thing too some of these guys were getting busted for taking a psalm Really take a steroid. Yeah, I can detect that said well I still get that in my inbox all the time people. Oh, I'm thinking about taking this arm Why I want to look her up right now on Instagram and see what she looks like See if I could guess that she's on something. I mean, no, she doesn't I mean she's not crazy jacked or anything like that Really? Yeah, you know, I mean she She's not that yeah, I can't find her anyway She's pretty jacked dude. Oh, okay, that's a good picture. She's pretty just yeah She's pretty Jack girl. Hmm. Well, I don't know man four years. That's basically you're done, right? I mean, that's a long unless you're like unless you're 22 We just got the soccer heat now you're gonna get the crossfit heat. I've had crossfit heat forever dude. I'll give a shit Dang that's crazy. Hey, how's your guys's weekend? Good, but not as good as yours. Oh Good mr. Mud bath No, the bread was in the picture Not my mouth. We we planned this a while. It was my mom's 60th birthday and she wanted to do a tour of There's a castle up there. I can't remember the name of it. It's in Calistoga gorgeous this fucking 48 million dollar Castle on the vineyard that took the guy 15 years to build Which is insane. I mean I'm walking around like goddamn. Yeah, that's got this much money. Oh, there it is Castello di Amorosa. Oh damn. Yeah, dude. It's like a 48 million dollar How much it cost him to build it was that modeled off of like a real castle somewhere Well, he put things in there from Castles and stuff in Italy. I don't know Billy. Oh dude. It was insane It's crazy. So we were in there taking this tour and there was a like he had a dungeon in there With actual torture devices that were from like five or six hundred years ago were things that were actually used So they had an iron maiden in there. Wow. Have you ever seen an iron maiden up close? That's the the head beheading thing, right? That's the beheading no Spikes where iron maiden is close somebody inside. It's like an iron It's like this big iron closet looking thing with this face on it And you stand in front of it and there's these long spikes and then they close it and the spikes Go inside of you But the spikes are designed to not hit your vital organs and they're not designed to go all the way through you So you just it's just fucking oh my god So you're like alive still but it's even worse Like squeezes and pokes you the guy giving us a tour is talking about all these torture devices And I'm just realizing how fucking terrible humans like the things that were capable of there it is That's what it looks like. Oh my god. It's a full body So they close you in that thing and it's literally designed to not hit vital organs Yeah, you like just bleed out slowly supposed to really hurt you but not kill you so then you go in there they close it on you and then Sometimes what they'll do is they'll open the top of it because there's like a face thing on the top They'll open that and they'll throw rats or other vermin in there to eat at you And and it came complete with a space underneath for them to put holes and fire That's convenient why why That's insane fucked up shit. Then they had the rack. Do you guys know what the rack is yeah So it's this table that you they strap your arms to and they stretch you strap and they just fucking crank it crank the Pull your shit apart. Yes, there it is right there. So that's the rack and then they also have the horse Drawn over the drawn quarter you quarter you so the horse is run in opposite directions Rip your fucking limbs off So on the rack on the actual table part There were these rollers with spikes in it and the guys like yeah They would use these if the person didn't want to confess like well fuck of course they're gonna confess Everybody's gonna confess on this thing, but anyway, we're a couple and we need cry closets What the hell like we went a long way. Yeah, and you got internet in jail now. Yeah, I mean that's crazy I mean word yeah, it's so crazy. Did you do like a tour of the place? Is that what a tour of the whole place? You don't stay there, right? You don't actually stay in the place. It's not like a place. No, no, no, no No, we did we got a private tour now. Does anybody live there still there's a house on the vineyard that belongs to the owner But we don't go through the house the castle. They don't live in How do you have a 40 million dollar castle not living it probably cold this guy? This guy's got an insane amount of obviously an insane first Hurst did they build this castle like yeah kind of just crazy I just I can't believe vineyards make this much money But they do they make an insane because when they give you a tour and they show you the process of making wine Yeah, there's so much science and insanity that's involved most most like most people that it start vineyard or have vineyards That make money had money. There's an old saying in you have to in why in wine world, right? It's if you if you want to make a million dollars selling wine start with a million yes No start with like a hundred million or a hundred million. Yes, it is something like that anyway So it was gorgeous and they gave us a full tour of the whole place and at the end Then they did you know we did the wine tasting which wine I'm not I'm not a big alcohol drinker So I don't really know the difference, but I tell you what once you start to get drunk They all taste pretty good I started getting a buzz. I'm like, oh, I like this one too, you know End up buying a bottle or whatever, but we also did the day before Jessica went there Jessica and I went there early and we did just on our own in Napa and we did the mud bath, dude Have you guys ever done a mud bath? No, I haven't Katrina keeps trying to get me to go And I haven't that one look cool though that you guys were in bro I like that it was like a little couple. It's not what you it was like an elbow You guys kind of like this on opposite sides Was there like a place to rinse off afterwards? Yeah, it's a private room So it's totally private you go in there the mud they make from clay and peat in Natural mineral water from calistoga because we were in calistoga So everything's from there and it's fresh or whatever you get in the mud bath You're naked obviously and it's a deep like this deep tub cement tub full of This mud and you think you go in and you just go down to the bottom super no It's super thick and you don't want to touch the bottom because it's hot as fuck if you touch the bottom They'll melt your foot off So they're like don't go to the bottom of it You have to kind of like put yourself on the surface and you kind of wiggle yourself in really yeah And the lady's like I'll be back in ten minutes to help to you know Let you guys know that it's time to get out and I'm like ten minutes I'm like are we supposed to be in here in an hour? She's like you'll want to be out in ten minutes That thing is an oven you're in this mud and it's hot and there's your heat can't go anywhere So you're literally cooking in this mud. It's just your head. That's like out just your head That's how I'm not selling this very well for me. It's actually so let me finish You're in that for ten minutes. It's a human soup like doesn't sound fucking fun at all So what it reminds me of is you know when you get the first time you went to sauna and it was kind of hard to like Okay, I got to stay in here for a little longer than five minutes and you're with standing the heat So it's like that after about six or seven minutes You're like oh, I want to get out because it's really hot But you stay in there for ten then you come out then you rinse yourself with this Mineral water that comes from again from Calistoga then you go into mineral Jacuzzi and then after that they put you on this bed and they wrap you in these blankets and you go to sleep Bro, you I don't know if it's the minerals from the mud or from the water or the common ish Yeah flooded with minerals on this whole process, bro Your cns is like you're like I felt like I took a roofie like I get out of that thing I'm like Like it was I had to like sit in my car now when they wrapped you were you able to fall asleep out? Really out hard really yeah, it was a it was like a 25 30 minute nap, but it felt like I feel like I woke up from the dead like I was so out and Jessica. I couldn't even wake her up I got scared for a second. I'm like, we got a smacker a couple times Like oh my god. He scared the shit of me, babe Anyway, you get in the car. I had to wait 15 minutes before I could drive That's how like relaxed I was oh, it was fucking pretty fun pretty fun stuff You get mud all kinds of different crevices and shits. You have to make sure you watch yourself real well I got a little mud in the butt crack area Drys up good old mud, but it's stuck to the butt hair. That's a mud I didn't I was gonna say because your house the carnivore diet going that's going did you go off of it? No, I didn't go off of it. Yeah, it's been a bit of a struggle But yeah, no, I still just meet just meet still just just is the palette fatigue set in or what? Yeah, see I the the worst part is so I I started eating like deli meats because I kind of you know Just as like a snack, you know because like I man it is hard to get calories in man Like I'm I just feel like it's tough to eat a bunch of meat and like, you know have have it like where I feel like I'm energized, you know, it's not energized yet. So now I have this theory, dude And I'm really worried for you and this is that it at one point because six weeks is a long time I know well, yeah, I know I've been evaluating that too, but go ahead. So what what my fear is that you should offset it with an all-carb diet I don't trust anything you guys have to say No, you should do just right. So what I'm assuming is happening to you And it sounds like that you're confirming that from here right now is that it's really challenging to get 3,000 plus calories of just straight steak So what you're probably ending up doing is probably getting less and less calories And so your body's going to get adapted to one not having carbohydrates to having lower calorie And then when you decide i'm over this fucking thing look out It's going to be really tough to reverse out of that like you just got to slowly do it reverse yourself out of it Slowly, do you see there's a deal when you do something like this say that like it's all easy Well, well, and that's not easy, but that's it's simple, right? That's we know what the what the structure is right? Well, I'm going to I think I'm going to give it about two weeks and then I might introduce like vegetables in again But I'm also doing I'm going to be doing the the chicken livers and egg yolks So that's that's something that I'm going to start doing this week Have you weighed yourself today to see how much you've dropped? Yeah drop like five total pounds since I've started Yeah, you're fine, dude. Yeah, you're fine. I wouldn't worry about I wouldn't worry too much about eating too Little if you've only dropped five and you started how long ago. Yeah, I started about Let's see four so brought six days six days five pounds. Yeah, that's that's actually normal for cutting carbs Forget just the fact that you're carnivore You've dropped a good amount of that. You've probably lost maybe one two pounds. Yeah, it's like 1800 is like my stand I can't really budge past that like 1800s. It seems calories. Yeah, like every day is like it's low calorie, bro Yeah, it is that's hella low calorie It is but you know, I mean that's the thing it's you couple that I just need to eat more frequently I'm just saying dude, but how was your couple that with high training hard, too You know I'm saying like you just you're gonna send that the body's gonna think I don't need hardly any calories Justin he did this last time too when you do this Fasted hella hard. I'm not yet. Well, that's the thing. I've been training hard I started I I've been doing a couple more that are like a little bit more moderate because just because like my energy Isn't there so I'm trying to figure that out This is exactly why I'm gonna win Justin's gonna try too hard. You're not gonna try hard enough No, I'm gonna fix it. You're gonna try too hard. He's not gonna try hard. No, I'm gonna slide right by introduce cheese That's my that's my let's do it. It's my dark horse. We'll see what happens, but no, we'll see. Yeah, we'll see How was your weekend? I was training and meal prepping. That's what I was doing weekend fucking a Okay. Yeah Be nervous. Where'd you work out? I'm not. Where'd you work out at? Just go back to gold. Uh, yeah, we lifted one day at golds and then Katrina and I came back here and Lifted one day. So Saturday we lifted in here. Sunday. We were at golds And then we're also, you know, packing up the house right now, too. Oh, you packing. Yeah. Yeah. Oh Sort that we're trying to get into a place by august 1st right now So that we're trying to push it even up for we were supposed to be out september But uh, I was like fucking if we can get out and find a place right now Let's just go out. Let's go out early And in fact today, I should find out if we're what's your moving date Well might be august 1st. So I have till technically I'm busy You know, I'm not moving bro. No, I ain't moving. Just let us see it. I'm yeah hire people No, no, I mean like I'm literally not taking anything. Oh, that's right. Yeah. I'm mattress. That's it. That's all she's allowed to keep Like we've had we had this big old thing over the weekend too because like Her mom was over and she's like people all of her family friend Everyone's going through our stuff because I'm like I'm getting rid of everything It's fucking if we if it can't sell right away. I'm burning it. It's not coming, right? So everyone's like coming over like, oh, I want this and what that whatever And katrina is like she's fighting me on this even though she acts like she's not fighting me on it And so we have like this the dump pile The sell what we're selling pile and then like the things that we're actually we're actually taking And every time I'll come back outside to check where the piles are going so that I gotta go back over and look at the Things that we're keeping. I'm like, we are not fucking keeping this I'm not going to throw away some pillows that we can use for this spare bedroom I'm like those pillows. I've got our years old. They got drill stains all over them. They're $10 a target fucking throw me the trash Oh, man, dude, so you said you let those things so you might we found a place maybe so yeah So I find out today. I'm going to be not far from you like close enough to walk Not walk. Okay. I don't think we can hang out. We'll be up. We'll be up close We'll be heading up towards a door activities Activities together up communication hill. Oh, okay like that like towards that way Wait a minute. Are you going to be close to that tower? No, no, no, no, okay good Don't don't live next to that tower. No, no, no. I'm not actually up at communication. I'm closer to Like behind the car dealerships back that way. I know that is I know that it's not far from you So there's the exit you get off to go home and you go right you go left to go to Oh, perfect. Yeah. Yeah, so you want a carpool? We are we're on the same street, dude Okay, we can't you can't hop in with me. So we'll do that. How long does it take you to get here in the morning time? Uh Depends on traffic, but usually 30 minutes is on average. Sometimes it could take as long as an hour Wow, it takes you that long to get from there because 87 can suck my dick. That's why yeah. Oh, you don't take all back streets Oh That's what I plan to Lincoln's going to take you for sure 35 40 minutes for sure Oh, really? Yeah For sure just because it's coming down down But then again, I come here after I drop my kids off in the morning So I leave at 8 30 in the morning, which is kind of peak traffic if you come here early Yeah, if you leave at 7 you're probably gonna get here in 15 minutes. Okay. That's okay So I'm not that we shouldn't be that because it says we're I think Each Katrina how crazy is this? This is why I think this place is meant to be so we'll find out today But we're both of us are exactly 13 minutes away from work. Oh, so you're right in the middle. Yeah, it's like a dead center for Both of us. It's a it's a house with the yard and all that stuff. It's a townhouse We have a it has a you know two car garage that's attached to it It's it's a little bit smaller than what I'm in right now, but it's nicer than what I'm in right now So I'm I'm I'm happy with the move and it's just her and I right now So it's we have it's a three-bed you guys haven't lived you guys over for a while Hold on you guys haven't lived just the two you guys have you guys ever just live at my house I mean, I guess you could say when we when we first started dating I had my house still And we spent most of the time over at my place So but when I sold my house, I moved in with her And when I moved in with her she'd she's always had Everett. She's lived with Everett forever So he's not coming. Oh, he wants to is he sad? Yeah. Oh, what's he gonna do? I told her though. No more no more roommates. Yeah. There's there's no reason for us. Where's he gonna go? I'm not if you guys are trying to have a kid. Yeah, and just there's no reason to you know saying like Oh, you know freaky sex, bro That's why it's why so I'm all over the place. See I had my house for nine years You know I know it's like to walk around my house naked and make breakfast and do that and like Sleep with my all my doors open exactly. Yeah, that's like I missed all that shit. So That's all happening. We we should find out today for sure if I we get that place or not. I'm I'm pretty sure we will Uh, and then uh, then I'll be moving by the by the first beautiful dude. I I totally hacked the alcohol You know hang over whatever hack fixed it. I mean still doing your uh, it works dude activated charcoal So Jessica like nine out of ten times if she drinks, especially if it's wine She's gonna have a headache in the evening. It's just you just have to deal with it like, okay We're gonna get a headache But activated charcoal throughout the drinking so we'll do like one or two capsules after like one or two glasses of wine And we were drinking all day. We were wine tasting all day that plus the organized green juice in between And or the gold juice which has turmeric in it. We'll throw that in there She not only did she not have a headache both days, which is a miracle But both of us woke up the next day feeling it's been fine. It's been a game changer since you introduced me It's crazy. No, it's been a game like I don't feel like I like yesterday we drank I went wine tasting three times yesterday And today I feel okay like a champion. Yeah, not like a champion I can tell I wasn't you know on point, but I wasn't I'm not terrible Which is it's a fucking miracle dude speaking of our sponsors guess who uh, just resigned with us I haven't had a chance to tell you guys this we had such a great response from this coming And it was like almost god, it's been two months at least since uh, we finalized everything And I believe we're kicking up their their next campaign is health iq We they we had such a great response. It's a great. It's a great business. Yeah, I think it just fits our audience really well too I mean, obviously you have people that need insurance, right? So you have and they everybody that was when we did the first campaign I mean they they were all hesitant about Advertising with us as a podcast because they weren't really in that space It's a brilliant model that they have. I'm mad that I didn't think about it I mean, I mean if you really think like because they're life insurance, right? So people listening right now who don't know what this is it's life insurance but When you pay your rate to an insurance company or whatever do two insurance companies because it's like you can get with a broker that can find different ones Your rate is for your risk, but you also It's also it's kind of cumulative all the risks that they pay all that's the all that cost goes in there Well, health IQ tries to work with fit and healthy people is what they try to do Yeah, because it saves money I mean at the end of the day and that's what they're known for so then when they go off to get you to find you, you know carriers They're like, oh, we're health IQ we Vet people we work with healthy fit people you're a lower risk for these insurance companies and your price is cheaper We should be paying less money for it. Was it dug? You're the one because dug works Worked in the insurance company or insurance industry for a while for a long time He went and tried to see if he could find better prices and he couldn't no substantially less in fact I think it was like 22 for myself And I tried to match you with the companies I work with and I couldn't yeah, so that's good So how long are they working with us for? I think they signed for I think another two or three months They're signed up for we're gonna ask taylor. I mean taylor handles all the contracts with the finalize all that stuff but He had him and I met last week And we were just kind of going over like what sponsors what campaigns where we at he goes Oh, by the way, he goes, you know, health IQ finally got back and cool We had they had such a great response. They want to run the campaign again. So that was really cool Doug do they do all the versions of life insurance like whole life and no they focus on term life insurance Okay, just a straight Yes, correct. So people with families and children They need to make sure that their kids are taken care of what's the difference with what salja said What's it would there's some there's different types of insurances that you can treat like investments and Stuff like that, but this is just you know, you sign up for 30 years. It's good for 30 years If you die within that period of time you get a defined Benefit meaning what if you outlive it then it's gone after that Oh, but the idea is to cover you when you need the money So for example somebody with a family or a spouse or somebody that they want to Take care of them if they weren't to make it During that period of time then then that's where that that comes into play You and Katrina do that for with each other. Do you guys have insurance with each other? No, we don't We don't yet. I'm sure when we when the family comes around and all that happens. That's absolutely That's a no brainer first thing we need to do. Yeah. No, that's a no brainer when that all happens But right now if I die like, you know, you know, whatever Yeah, it's like my sister is the beneficiary for most of my stuff. So yeah, she gets made she makes out Really, did we do something for mind pump something happens one of us? Not yet. Holy shit. We should do that. Yeah You know what you do with that right with the business I did this I did this in my last business taking you out You get a policy for your partners then when they if something happens to them Yeah, we get paid out then that buys out their their share or whatever, right? Exactly Now we'll be all valued equally because we're equal partners or we'll be different I would say we're valued equally. I'd like to think that Well, it's all based on percentage like how well we would be able to do without that one person There's a special out mind pump algorithm Like if Doug was dead, we've like there's no mind I said, we always talk about the our replacements. We haven't thought about who we replaced Doug We'd have to hire like like five people. There is no good producers out there. Really? No, there's not. No Not like Doug. Most of these clowns we do it themselves. Yeah. Yeah, most people don't have like a dub Jamie that's about it. Yeah, exactly. Oh, yeah. Jamie is uh, joes, right? Yeah, so and then who is the only one I know He's good and then so is um, okay, so there's some guys that we can replace you I'm not going any more soon though. I don't think anyway Dude, Justin, you got to tell Adam about the the treehouse thing that you're building. Did you hear about this? No, no, no Backyard so I well all weekend I've been kind of clearing out my backyard and like making You know uncovering all the underbrush and all that kind of stuff So I have like all these stumps on my on my backyard and I have all these trees And so I promised the boys that I and I kind of mentioned this on the show that I was going to build like a treehouse but my idea has turned into like It's a bit of an ordeal. So what I'm doing is I'm building these platforms For a lot of the stumps. So they're going to have like four or five different platforms. So they have zipline. They have a rope Bridge and that kind of shit So I can prefab it first and then kind of put it on top of these stumps So it doesn't take as much effort and stuff because like when you build tree houses It's quite involved like you have to get like tree taps and you have to do all this kind of stuff So anyways, it's it's like it's less complicated, but more work is what I just added for myself But you got a zipline you got a zipline you got a rope bridge They're going to be like a little covered up house area where they could go Not yeah, like what I wanted to do is build up to that So with the the platforms I can kind of build on top of they're like little mini decks You know that they can kind of look out and play. So Um, I'm I'm basically building all this so they have like a rad like nerf Fort house fighting. Yeah. Oh my god, dude. That's so cool. They'll they'll the friends will come over It's kind of like going to be in a loop so they can kind of go from the bridge to this platform Go to the other one. You hit the zipline go up this trail come back and they do kind of a Loop so that of the year, dude. Yeah, it sounds like a lot of calorie burning though. Exactly Yeah, I've been doing nothing. That's your need work. Yeah, you might need some carbs to fuel I think so, dude, you know, it's funny. I read that I'm fine that doughnuts in a carb depleted state actually burn body fat I did it. It was the send me that article. It was the secret of the glazed donut It sounds so legit. I think I read the same article Dude, so just be cream for the wind. So I got to read you guys this uh, this uh This article that I read in news week because I couldn't fucking believe it I hope I didn't read this. All right. Let me know if I told you guys about this already This is the title. This is the title of the article From news week. This was published uh, april 19th 2018 mice With human brains created a new study could one day repair brain damage in humans What with human brains? What are you talking about? Baby mice have had human brain cells implanted in their brains So they implanted human brain cells into mice pups, which resulted in the animals growing a brain That was both human and rodent And they hope that one day it's splinter. I just got to say that You beat me to it and and they hope that one day these special mice will help them better understand how the human brain develops Can we give them like ninja skills? So what I want to do is I want to put them with four turtles and see what happens What I want to do is I want to just like let's come up with all the different ways this could go wrong Yeah, you know I'm saying like for me the the first way is that's scary You make a mouse that's got a human brain It has it starts to develop a consciousness and then it figures out it's being experimented on Yeah for for other people. That's fucked up number one. Right. It's pretty sure that'll create resentment in the mouse human brain population What if it escapes and like makes its way to like new york where there's like a fucking million of those things That's what I'm saying. And you don't know which one is the one with the human brain It starts communicating to them. That's what I'm saying. They all attack us in our sleep Yeah, because they're all like in the cages are like they're just fucking using us to experiment And then they it's like a plan of the apes, but but mice they're that's such a bad idea. What are we doing, dude? Why are we making mice humans? Mice humans? What the fuck man? Who's fucking brilliant idea? What is this? Why do scientists they do they not have like a It's because we can yeah, you know what they need we need like a an official like You know people are like a like a department Where they what they do is they get the ideas and then they say nah, not a good idea. Yeah, let's reject that Yeah, they get a what the fuck award. Yeah. Yeah. I want to make a lizard and combine it with just because you can doesn't mean you should You know I'm saying dude. Yeah, I don't know about that. Anyway Pretty pretty pretty mice humans pretty crazy, but you know apparently I guess what they're gonna do is they're gonna study the brains to see How to treat things like Alzheimer's and dementia You know if they're gonna go through this much trouble, why don't they just I guess it's really hard to take and study these things because they develop over such long periods of time like All you can do is population-based studies where you ask people surveys like how do you like to eat and what are your activities? You can't take people in a controlled environment For 50 years and then say okay The reason why people are getting Alzheimer's is this with their diet or this with their it's kind of hard to do that Right, so they have to do this. You don't think we have humans They're like in prison for life that have all these conditions that we can just test You have a son humane that's fucked up. They're in prison for life. They used to do that I know it just makes sense to me. It's like you're fucked anyways at least now This is your way to give back. You fucked the fucking society. You're locked up forever Maybe they take time off your sense experiment on you. You know, you can make a deal How about that you could take time off of someone's sentence be like look you're in here for life What we'll do is we'll give you just 25 years right if you let us experiment on your brain Yeah, we're gonna turn you into why not. Yeah, why not? I wonder I feel like that nobody would allow that to happen You don't think so no even now that's different even if they signed even this to the game No, they wouldn't but you're right because that's different for me personally if a mouse could consciously Uh volunteer and agree to something. I don't have a problem with it So like I don't have a problem if the hue if people are like look take 10 years years off my sentence I'll do all the risks and you can do all the experiments. It's my body People don't want to do that and people don't want to see that they don't want to know that exists You know, I mean really but I think that would be fine because a person agreed to it I think so too. Dude, that's the plot of that one terminator movie. You know the one with um, what christian bail And and it's got the other guy sam warlington. So sam warlington. He's like prisoner I didn't watch after judgment judge. He signed some sheet where he like, you know for He signs over basically they can experiment on him and they keep him alive as like a robot And then he fucking which one was that that was like, uh, when they revamped the whole Um, they ruined that. What's the one where he the last one? I was like the latest The last one I watched was the one where he he ramps the diesel off the fucking the side of the freeway What's that? What's that? That's probably all of them. Yeah Yeah It's all determined on which like guns and roses songs in the back He's like, hey, which one's the one with the explosion and machine guns? I think I see how many are there there's like four or five right now This is the least like more I think there's like six. Is there really that any? Yeah Yeah, so I think that through the third one is where I stopped. I think I stopped for the third one That one was good though. It was like a good refresh a rebrand of of terminator. It was okay. I don't know I mean, it wasn't like yeah, it was good. I liked it term terminator the series terminator is the One of the only I can't maybe you guys can help me because you guys are both kind of movie buffs, too It's the only series that I can think of off the top of my head. I'm sure there's more Or the sequel was better than the original or the sequel like blew it up more than the original Yeah, because terminator one was awesome. Everybody loved it, but it was kind of a cult classic Terminator two was lower budget. I think you know, and then yeah But the storyline in terminator two was incredible too. Yeah, that one was fucking awesome. He had all his one liners He was like classic Arnold. Yeah, can you think of another series of movies where the sequel was better than What about star wars? Are there any people say empire strikes back to the future two and three were both good You thought they were better than the first one. Sure first one was I mean first one's again classic It has to be better than the first is what I'm saying. I don't know if it was better I don't know if you well, I don't even know if you could claim the terminator ones It's never better because the the first idea is original, right? It's a so original and if a matrix blew it Right, so nothing's ever better the second time But I think if even if a sequel does good or is even comparable I think it you would consider it really because that rarely happens either like normally two three four on is Godfather two was good. Godfather part two was fucking amazing. I thought at least that's the one where they go to Sicilina show that's the horse head one See indiana jones, I liked I liked actually the last crusade. So that's the third one though It's not the second one like yeah the temple doom second one wasn't good It wasn't as simple but the last crusade. I thought was better even then Hey speaking of good shows one last night. I watched um Well, my buddy kept telling me to watch this on amazon prime. You can uh, it's called deer zackery you guys seen this I saw I've seen a commercial for it. Watch it. I know you'll like it. Okay. Yeah, what's it about? It's a it's a I don't want to ruin it like I just want you to watch it It's it's actually a real story. I didn't know I didn't know anything about it So watch it. You'll I know you you'll enjoy it. It'll be give us good discussion afterwards, too It's kind of a heavy show though. It's heavy. It's a heavy movie. That doesn't give us a lot. Yeah This netflix show was it called like dark Dark tourism or dark tourists? Um, have you guys seen it? Yeah. Oh dude, it's it's it's really fascinating like this guy goes he shows this whole world of people that that um, they go on these different vacations That are just all the the macabre, you know side of things so He goes down and and and does like day of the dead and like goes through like More days and he does um, like what do you speak Spanish? He's Oh Yeah, but um, what else do you do? Oh, they're narcos they have like they have like tourism for narcos so like basically you go to columbia and then you like retrace all the stuff they bring up in in the show and Um, they show like the guy that extreme travel like his his main. Yeah extreme his The main guy the the hit man for um, what's his name again? Pablo Escobar? Like he's in he's in this documentary and like it's fucked up because he's like Like retracing how he kills people like with a blank on the gun for the tourists Yeah, so you're traveling with the murderer. Yeah, and he's like, yeah So I yeah, so this is how I do it and he's like shooting his his gun off and like they're they're they're like Reenacting like certain things like like hold on what's wrong with people. Yeah, why are we doing this? Yeah Why are we doing this? So this guy this fucking murderer is cool to these people and he's showing them what he's doing And he's making himself feel better about and they're really charming and funny. Yeah, and it's like yeah, it's it's fucked up It's like what is wrong with this guy has all this like conflicted Thoughts around it too the guy that's like the narrator of the show and he also does one where he's like He's trying to how do they get that approved? I don't know They're making all this money. I don't think it is approved Who do you send that to? I don't know dude You feel out of form. Yeah Oh, hold on honey. I know our business. I got a field trip with a murderer I want to do dude. They even reenact like border crossing So like, you know, what do they call them wolves or oh, yeah So they smuggle people like so they like reenact this they have like fake You know people come in and like hold them at gunpoint and all this stuff and then they're like trying to go through So they they can like experience what you know these people go through You know why you know why this is happening. I know exactly why it's happening same reason why there's uh obstacle course racing It's life is too easy and fucking boring Yeah, people need to feel excitement, but needs to be just controlled enough so they don't act So they don't actually get the gun It's like it's almost like it's you know, it's almost like it's weird Humanity needs it like a mass pruning every once in a while You know, I mean like a mass something because I feel like people are getting antsy Yeah, you know, I mean everything's too easy and too good. So like honey, what are we gonna do? I'm fucking bored You want to go to hawaii? No, that's stupid. You want to do another orgy? Now we did four of them already. What do you want to do drugs now? I'm bored of drugs. Oh, I know Let's go do this fucking around a serial killer. Yeah, let's go sneak into america Let's pretend like we're legal sneaking into america with a wolf and then you know We might die, you know, it's interesting about that is I I speculated that because of that that we would see UFC continued to rise and explode because it's like the closest thing to like, you know, gladiators Yeah, the gladiator times right and that people are thirsty for that But I think uh, I think ufc is struggling right now. It is that's so that's kind of crazy, right? What's the fortitas left right? Yes, that's what's happened right ever since they left it's been kind of on this down Down but downward spiral man. Well, they lose they've a couple times now. They've had some like money makers, right like Ronda Rousey was a huge money maker. Yeah, and she you know turned out to be a dud, right? Well, and John Jones fucking up John Jones keeps fucking up. McGregor has made his money Like, you know, it's hard to get him back in to you know to fight So I think supposedly he's training right now for one for who I don't know they haven't announced it But he's I mean he's he's posting like he's training training to get back. You see or boxing like what's Do you know what do you mean? Which one's better? No, which one like McGregor's training for oh Which everyone's gonna pay him more. I'm sure yeah, it's probably ufc. I'm assuming I'm sure I'm sure he's done with boxing Yeah, so you know, I feel like the three of us um should draft A another staff member that you're an underling. Yeah that you're right now you're changing the rules Well, it doesn't have to this isn't the form of the contest. It should be like, okay. Listen, there's We got other these other employees. They're they're coming to all of us for advice Right, we should each take kind of one under our wing and say, okay I'm gonna help him or her out like she's in him or her is gonna be my my uh, I want to help them all I've been trying to Of course, I know yeah, but as for it as it comes, but I feel like I don't have a favorite Why do you have a favorite? Oh, Enzo had an idea today There should be two contests should be you guys and then us Over here in the front office. Don't tell him Maybe we should but don't tell him. Yeah, we'll pick the winners and then we pick the winner of them We'll give him a prize. Well, I kind of already just even though we made you already told him Well, well, he listens to the show too, by the way Enzo's like the only one actually listens. Yeah So yeah, because rachel doesn't really rachel doesn't listen taylor doesn't really listen drew Sporadically does he very sporadically listens make you know, you know how I get to drew to listen I tell him that I said his name. Of course Of course. Hey, we talked about you. Yeah, I talked about you with Enzo. He's like, which one will you mention me? Yeah? Enzo Enzo's a good boy. Yeah, you know, I he's a good boy. I took him all to logic and it was uh Quite interesting man. The concert was definitely a lot younger crowd than I anticipated Oh, yeah getting old buddy. Yeah They played street fighter dude. Like I could not believe that they kept a 20,000 audience captivated Watching video games like this is crazy 15 years ago. This would never fly like a total throwback Well, could you imagine if you were like some metallica concert then all of a sudden they're like right in the middle of said Hang on my boy was talking shit about me as street fighter Throws it up on the screen and then they play it'd be worse. It was like zilda, you know, you're playing forever Now now you gotta you gotta think of this though Like there's some brilliance there on his part to think to think creatively to Incorporate that into the the show, right? Like I mean we are in a time now where there's kids that are making millions of dollars playing video games online And other kids just watch their games make more money than movies. Yeah, right So to incorporate it into your your set kind of smart. I thought that was pretty brilliant. I thought it was silly, but pretty clever This clause brought to you by organifi For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition Organifi fills the gap with laboratory tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health the performance the added edge Try organifi totally risk-free for 60 days by going to organifi.com That's or gani fi.com and use a coupon code mine pump for 20 off at checkout First question is from brian dominick. How do you stop a reverse balding? Is it possible? Do things like rogane work? Did you pick this question? You fucking cock smoker This is a question people need help man Often on oh the perks of getting to the studio first as you get to a victim question No, you know what this is a question I've seen at least a dozen times over the last year or two that it pops up in our In our questions is something that people want to know it's in it's like I mean Here's a deal with balding a largely genetic very very largely genetic But there are some things that you can do that seem to Help at least slow the process down now I want to ask you adam because you have experience with this but also because You've been using the juve the juve light, right? Have you noticed anything from that? So, okay, so that's the infrared right right on the right on the right on the noggin, right, right? So Well, so let's first back up and talk about so balding does run in my family Although I never I had a thick head of hair for quite some time I didn't notice it accelerate until I mess with testosterone Until I mess with steroids. So once I mess with steroids, especially my first time ever messing with master on And at that time I master on is a d8. It's a dht derivative based steroid, right? Sounds like an awesome metal band It's well, it's known for making your muscles feel hard and it's androgenic And it's supposed to you know make you give you a strong libido and Bodybuilders use it pre-contest to give their muscles a hard look or whatever But it has a very strong affinity for the receptors in the scalp and in the prostate So if you have a tendency for prostate enlargement, probably one of the worst ones you can take And hair loss. Yeah, so what happened when you start taking it? You just see the hair just start to well I remember I remember like it was day the first day it ever happened to me because it was the scariest thing ever Shampooing washing your hair and then you know, that's that's how you I think that's how every every man that starts to go bald Or starts thinning the way he noticed is because there was a day when he wasn't thinning And then all of a sudden a day where it began happening or you began noticing at least and the day I noticed it was I remember shampooing in the shower And I bring my hands down and I look down and there's like hair in my hand not a lot, you know, but some More than there ever was before and I remember going like Oh freaking out instantly right Maybe I go to your girlfriend. Am I losing it right here? Is it oh man? So it after that and that was all after my the first time I'd ever mess with testosterone I noticed a little bit of it thinning But then it kind of like as soon as I came off the testosterone. I noticed that it slowed down And I actually felt like it kind of came back a little bit So while I was on testosterone It I was I started noticing it losing it So this is way back in my mid early 20s like when I was messing with testosterone And I noticed it was thinning and then when I would come off a cycle I would notice that it would it would thick thicken back up a little bit So come it would go down a little bit and then come back would it come back all the way Or to be worse off than it was in the beginning. Yeah, it was a little worse off than it was in the beginning So each time was successively. Yes. So each time it was a little bit more a little bit more And then I I fucked around with What's the one that starts with a b But Fuck what's the famous it's a famous hair shampoo. It's bozzly bozzly. Thank you So I did the whole watch the commercial I did the whole bozzly thing right and that's like a $800 bill, you know of shampoo And that is that the is that have minoxidil in it? Yeah, okay So that's which by the way, I told you guys how that started right minoxidil was a It was a drug that they were researching researching for For heart for blood pressure and one of the side effects was hair growth And so that of course they're like, well, there's way more money on this for hair growth But like where did it grow? Yeah, I don't know. Well, it'll grow anywhere. I think you put it on your body So I so I did this and it's like a three bottle process and it's such a fun It was such a headache, right and it was expensive And after a few weeks what I noticed was it gave me like this peach fuzz And it did make my hair look thicker because what it did it grew back these little stubbles And and I remember the and I you could totally feel it because I'd be like washing my hair And I'm like, oh shit. I have like these little Stubbles now that I can feel all over the place in my hair and then I look in the mirror And I'm like, oh it does look thicker because of that And so that got me excited like oh this shit's really working And so I stuck with it like for a couple more months And then I noticed that the stubbles never grew any more than like these little stubbles They just were these little they just never grew into full lengths like a five o'clock shadow Yes, it was like a five o'clock shadow on my on my balding spot What happened when you stopped taking it though? So that's where I got pissed So then I was just like, okay It I didn't feel like it made that much of a difference. It's it was really expensive I don't remember the exact price. I know I said $800. It was it was expensive. It wasn't cheap And I remember being like man, just just for a little bit better. Like I'm not that insecure about it I know we laugh about it joke about but I really don't give that much of shit about it Right, so I'm like whatever like I'd rather just be thinning and then not have to deal with it. So I stopped taking it then when I stopped taking it Like the hair then it got worse and I was like, oh this motherfucker Like now it felt like I was losing it again Yeah, because I did some research on minoxidil and It was originally developed for vasodilation and that's kind of what it does That's how they think it works on the scalp is it increases blood flow and supposedly it helps grow hair I think there's a different mechanism that they're not identifying yet But what it does is it'll grow back some hair, but it'll also Stop the hair loss or or at least dramatically slow down the hair loss But what happens when you stop using it is you catch up to where you would have been had you never used it Right So if you would have lost x amount Of hair up until this point But you've stopped that from happening because you were using minoxidil And then you stop using minoxidil it catches up real fast and then you get this contrast And that's what happened. That's exactly what I felt. Yeah, and that was really the because before You know all this me talking about thinning like I didn't no one really noticed Like I noticed because I'd see little pieces of hair and stuff like that But I was still had a pretty full head of hair Even when back in my mid 20s when it was starting to go like it wasn't bad I ride away because I was known for having a thick head of hair And I noticed it because I'd run my hands from my hair and it did it started to feel thin Even though it didn't look it for the average person. I knew it was starting to go that direction So this was me Trying to combat that And it did it totally backfired on me And then I went through this little phase for about six months to a year where it felt like accelerated it And then it kind of went to a halt And then after that That was then after that I was now i'm in my like late 20s This is me again now. I'm like prescribed I get prescribed testosterone. I believe when I was 29 So then when I was taking that I actually when I was taking a very therapeutic dose I actually felt pretty good. It felt like it actually grew a little bit of my hair back I thought that was pretty cool. So I don't think the normal amounts are going to make you lose more than you normally would Yeah, so when I wouldn't you go the higher. Yeah, so when I was on a therapeutic dose Uh, I actually felt like it was kind of holding my hair there. I didn't feel like it was growing it back But I didn't feel like I was losing anymore where before It felt like I was just getting a little thinner every single year where this being back on the therapeutic dose It felt like okay. This is at least so much of those hair transplant Uh, l 10,000 right like is it 10? Yeah, I looked at how proven is it like really? It'll give you hair No, it works They take it from like the bottom of the bottom part of your your neck right here And then they transplant it wherever and they do a pretty good job now back in the day You could tell when people do it because it looked like plugs You could see but now my hairstylist always tells me like if you ever she goes if it ever really bothers you Should you should go do you should go do it? She goes you have a good you have the fact that I have black hair It's just a really small spot in the back. She's like it would you would never know with you No, but I don't care enough. Can it fall out. Can you lose that also? I don't know. I didn't ask that I would I mean like what if somebody you got a hair transplant? I think like surgically put it in there I don't think it's well. I know that but could you go back on gear or whatever? Oh, that's a good question. I didn't ask that I didn't ask that question but so So then I'm on therapeutic dose then I get into competing then I start hitting higher doses I noticed it again starting to thin I back back down after competing's over You know, this is just a couple years ago now on the podcast I've pretty much it kind of stayed the same And when I got off completely I did when especially during these this hormone time I started to notice it started thin again now This is when I started to incorporate the the juve And the juve I kind of feel like the juve did to to my scalp the same thing that like the bosley did only without the chemicals on my head So and I and it's easier for me to do because I've been doing it for my psoriasis anyways It's actually good for you Right and it's good. It's because it's healthy for me I feel better about doing like the bot and it's not obviously after you've made the purchase of the juve Or we like all right. We have the infrared inside of our sauna too That to me has been like way way better Yeah, because they make combs they make combs with infrared light And I don't know the quality of of them, but they've shown in studies that that infrared treatment does Slow down stop and in some people reverse Hair loss. Yeah, which it's a non chemical Intervention well, that's what that's what I deal That's what I like so it always another thing that always freaked me out about bosley because you know Somebody might be wondering like well if it slowed us down stopped it. Why wouldn't you just keep going forever? I just never felt good about the chemicals on my head forever like I just was uncertain about that. I didn't I didn't think that was a good idea I'm with you on that. You know, I'm with you on that like is it a good thing and there are Some cases where people lose more hair by the way I want to make sure to say that some people use minoxidil and actually lose more hair Then they did initially so it's not like this guarantee thing, but it is it's a chemical you're putting on your head Look, there's there's other drugs you can use too like Finasteride or do test right these are These are drugs you can take that prevent the conversion of testosterone to dht dht is a form of testosterone That is it's very androgenic So when you look at hormone when you look at anabolic hormones or testosterone You know type hormones or steroids They have anabolic properties, which are the muscle building properties and then they have androgenic properties, which are the Masculinizing properties. That's what makes you a man. So if I gave you know Steroids to a woman she'd build muscle But then she would also masculinize because it's got androgenic properties and what does masculinization mean? Well growing hair on your face your your chest deepening of your voice oily or skin More aggression that kind of stuff right and even hair loss and prostate enlargement So what some of these drugs do is they prevent the conversion of testosterone to dht So that you don't get these androgenic effects that can cause hair loss or prostate enlargement But the problem with that is you also many times people use these things and the libido will go to shit Because they lose that dht which tends to give people that feeling or they'll feel depressed And it's again. It's another drug. It's another chemical intervention Again, the the jubelite is supposed to enhance that also. So I'm like for me. It's been it's been awesome Like the like by no means am I trying to sell it like we it grew my hair back Or I have these crazy testosterone levels from it But I feel like it's mitigated it like the the loss of my hair Like it's definitely slowed the process down or at least stalled it for me And because I'm doing it for my psoriasis. I'm doing it for my testosterone levels It's like why not just fucking do it right? So I just dip my head down while I'm sitting in front of the jubelite Or in the sauna. Here's another thing you can do that's natural. Um, salt palmetto I know you've been telling me that for a long time and I still have yet to do that It's it's an herb. Does Thrive sell it? Uh Thrive market I pretty sure will sell I don't think I don't know if they sell the shampoo of salt palmetto But I'm pretty sure that they'll sell salt palmetto in capsule form that you can take Oh, okay. So what salt palmetto does is salt palmetto blocks Or partially blocks the dht receptors now. Here's a deal. It's it's primarily genetic in terms of how many of these receptors you have in your scalp And in your prostate So that's why some guys like jay cutler who's mr. Olympia, right jay cutler Has no hair loss whatsoever for sure that guy was on a shit ton of gear And I know bodybuilders like that where they can take high doses of antibiotics Or man that just they can you know get to 95 years old and have almost a full head of hair And then I know guys, you know, we have friends that are you know, went fully bald in their mid 20s A lot of that has to do with how many of these receptors they have in their scalp So you probably have a lot of dht receptors In your scalp and that's why you end up losing hair. I know personally I have a lot probably in my prostate runs in my family prostate enlargements a big problem on my family So what I do is I use salt palmetto shampoo Now the idea with the shampoo is you wash your hair with it You leave the shampoo on for like a minute or two so you can wash the rest of your body That helps block the receptors in the scalp So that your dht doesn't cause hair loss now. I've been using salt palmetto shampoo for about I want to say maybe seven years Now I for sure should be way more bald than I am now I've got relatively full head of hair. You can see a little bit of thinning the back But you can't really tell I for sure should be like my brother who's younger than me and he's already lost more hair than me All the men in my family have hair loss And I think that the salt palmetto shampoo made a big difference and it's natural Now Doug just pulled up the thrive and they do have the they have salt palmetto In in supplement form now What's your thought on that by me taking it through a pill versus actually putting it on the scalp? You know, here's the thing It's I use the shampoo so I could direct it to my scalp if you take it by pill form You're going to get that systemically I think more And uh, it won't hurt give it a shot. There's some Italian studies that show that salt palmetto supplementation does Uh help a lot with Would it hurt me at all to be have the pills and then also have the shampoo? I mean is that going to be I would go with uh try both and then you can always cut one out and see what happens Okay, yeah, and see how that works drives. Got that too. That's right. I always thought salt palmetto was like, you know Vidao Sassoon You know Yeah, one of those like uh shampoo like fancy. No, no, it's not it actually designer guy It's one of the it's one of the herbs that actually has got some really good, you know applications, but You know, that's pretty much it. I mean, uh, you know, uh, I'd say sunlight therapy or infrared therapy Salt palmetto, of course, minoxidil seems to work Then you can go the prescription route, uh finasteride, dutasteride Although I don't recommend those because the side effects on those and shminaster can be it can be really can be really nasty I know but that's kind of where I after a while I was like it's just not worth it for me to take a bunch of other chemicals to just not let my hair Loss like I at that point. I'm like, I'm not that attached to it. Like I would like to have a full head of hair Like that's you're tall Do you lose it? Is it is it even or is it just in the back stay tall man Because I never see your head you always have a hat on. Yeah, it's just the just the back is is where it's then Well, you know, I notice I noticed the front too. Like I mean not when you spray paint it. I think that That's my favorite No, you can't like literally like it looks good. That's that's the that's the best thing right there I want to get sponsored by that. I don't remember the name of the company that does that you can't even like you can't even tell Unless you're like really high It sprays like little Hands down the best thing for somebody who well you have to be you have to be at the same place I am like if you have like if you have some hair Yeah, you have a little bit of hair right and you don't have that much because my I have a buddy who's like his His bald spot is the size more than a more than a softball And it works on his head like if you know hair on it and he sprays it on just little bits Like really and it works really really well. So like for photos like he did for his wedding and she just washes out or what? Yeah, well, yeah washes right out So what happens if you've got that on your head and you sweat? No, you're over someone's house and like put your head back on their couch Is it going to show up on their couch and shit? Yeah, if you I mean well, yeah, you it would make a mess like it's it doesn't like um I mean it adheres to the the the hair follicles that are on there Is that what it is? Yeah, but it but it you could definitely Like if I had like a white shirt on and I like rubbed it You would see like like this kind of like charcoally look to it, but it's not It's crazy like you could be sitting right next to right next to somebody And you can't tell like you cannot tell like no, that's how you can't surprise just to call the other It's for all the fat jokes Bringing them back a little salty when I'm like low carbs, you know Yeah, yes, that's that's the brand topic. Yeah topic. Yeah, we're not even sponsored by them. Yeah, I know But that should be though. Well, that was the idea Justin was it get sponsored Before we railroaded me like that Now we'll see man. We'll put it out there the world. I mean I haven't used it in a long time But I do keep it's in my I do have it in my uh, they're fibers building fibers I have them I have it in my bathroom for the times that we do go do like a like I have used it for a wedding There's been a wedding that I've used it at recently in the last year or so But I haven't used it in a long time, but I do fuck I was so I remember my buddy first sent it over to me who was like who's really bald And he showed us this like he literally showed the video of him doing it And it was like it was like like watching magic. It's like watching David Blaine Make money turn in or make coffee turn into money. It was like the same thing. It's like, whoa, dude And then I thought well, that's because it's on his iphone It's kind of blurry or what about that wait till I see him in person I mean I could be standing three inches from his back of his head and not tell so It fucking it definitely for I I recommend it if you're somebody who's like, you know thinning hair and you're fucking What I would never do is this like if I was a single guy I wouldn't rock this stuff and go out on dates and like pretend like surprise the girl Yeah, like, you know why they do that shit to us all the time like true. Why yeah, but I'm not I'm not I'm not a fan of that. I mean hair extensions. They fucking Spanks, right everything's tucked in like a sausage if you're doing like a if you're doing like a photo shoot Or you're doing something like that where you're on camera or shooting a video or you're on a wedding day I could see doing that for photos. Wow. The guy's name is even at him in the commercial It's this slide to see yeah this transformation. That's pretty good Yeah, but look at that see how thin that guy is I mean, I'm telling you It works that good. It's not it's I mean and here what is it like what is it 20 bucks dug or something like that? It's so cheap. Yeah Yeah 30 bucks. Come on and you get a little or selling it way too hard. Yeah That's a next question, please Next question is from antlers What is your stance on fat burners when used with a proper diet and frequent exercise during a cut? Do you think they can be helpful harmful or useless? So this yeah, this question had to do more with like a fedra and you know, those yo-himby and those types of fat burners You know, here's the thing with those things studies will show that they do accelerate fat mobilization and fat loss But when you use them in the real world The only benefit I could ever see is short term and I can the only way I could see it benefiting is Appetite suppression Other than that, especially if you're natural. Here's what I notice As a natural as a guy who lifts weights naturally When I've taken things like a fedra or yo-himby to help me with fat loss Yes, I do notice that my appetite suppressed But I also feel like my cortisol is through the roof and whatever weight I lose it ends up being kind of muscle and fat It's not like I just lose body fat. I don't notice It's like I feel worse as a result and I want to go off of them and just end up feeling shitty You guys feel the same way that's exactly how I feel I think it's I mean I think for the average person like you said maybe in a controlled controlled study where everything is perfect Like the perfect environment that I could totally get it, but I think uh, for the most part It's too hard to tell like if it's Really doing much help the things that I if I use anything like that to accelerate fat loss or to help me It's because I'm in a calorie deficit And I find that I don't have the the energy to go to the train Is it a caffeine so caffeine as using a stimulant? So for me like if I'm if I'm messing with anything like that at all Like that's the only thing I'm using because you know because that's normal You're you feel I'm in a four or five day calorie restriction by day four or five Like sometimes it's hard to get up and like get get after that workout And so caffeine for me does yeah fedra is overwhelming. You know, it's just it's too much To where like caffeine is like yeah caffeine at least it helps It helps you keep kind of going through when you are in a deficit and you feel like you just don't quite have as much energy I mean, that's the benefit to it. Like I mean, haven't even found like most things that they attribute towards The the stuff that's actually working in these compounds. It's just like caffeine every time Well, if you if if they did a controlled study Or they controlled for calories and activity I bet you they'd find no benefit because I think the fat loss that because people do experience weight loss When they go on strong fat burners But I don't think it's this I don't think it's the the compound that's burning more body fat It's because you're moving more because you're hyper. Yes, and you're not eating as much right and then also adds up So I here's what I would recommend to anybody who's either using one or considered using one is to To run a six weeks of trying to reduce reduce body fat with and without it and compare the two Because what I ends up happening and this is where I where I see like supplements work the most This is in my opinion, right is when people go and this is how I used to think as a You know teenager in my early 20s is I just spent 200 something dollars on supplements this month like It makes me the rest of everything else consistent because I'm taking it This is the motivator Right. It's a motivator for me to be better because I'm like, oh, I'm taking this supplement I want it to work I want to see results and so I also should follow my diet and I should also train hard something you're doing You know in the process whereas like a lot of times people Uh, I get they like need something like they need like this this ritual this process They can't like drum that up in the workout themselves like so for a lot of times that kind of helps them Mentally I have this substance and now I'm doing it like it's the catalyst to this. No This is and I remember when we first started minepomp Like this is kind of like the stance that I took on especially when I was in competing because I did have a lot of Ritualistic type of supplements and shakes and things that I did Uh during that time and it really was for that exact reason. So For the majority though, I tell people like okay If you have the money to just throw like if you've got that kind of money where you can just say Hey, I've spent two three hundred dollars a month and it helps me be consistent And I'm taking something that may help a little bit then by all means like But if I wish someone would have told me when I was you know, 19 years old trying to build muscle You know and only making seven dollars an hour You know and told me that I didn't need to spend 150 to 200 dollars on supplements a month And it wasn't really doing much of anything in fact I should probably use that and put it somewhere else maybe going to get quality food Or be consistent with something like that versus you know taking all these pills But I mean if you're a grown-ass man or woman, you got you got a great paying job You can afford to throw money at these different supplements and they're all they're proven to be safe And they're they're healthy or they're an herb or whatever. It's like well, okay You know, well, that's the thing with these fat burners. They're not they're the of all the supplements you can buy online They're the least safe of all of them. Literally. Well, can we list off like what's hot right now? The old school ones like I always list off the ones from 24-hour fitness like the lipotropics and the It's still it's still the same ship. It's still it's still caffeine and versions of caffeine Theo threw a bromine, which is a chemical from Chocolate that is similar to caffeine. You have sinifarin You which is from bitter orange extract. You have a fedra or ma huang, which is the the not my wing ma huang Well, which is the Chinese herb Of course caffeine they'll throw in white willow bark or cat or aspirin Into that mix to to prolong the length of how active they are on the body Yo him be is another one. All of these are central nervous system stimulants All of them help in the sense that they may make you lose your appetite and they may hype you up But here's the thing your body adapts pretty damn quickly Yeah, if I gave somebody a fedra and caffeine on a daily basis By day four or five That same dose would start to lose its effect and by a week one and a half or week two You wouldn't really feel much and then what would happen is you would need to take it to feel normal because what happens with your body is Your body has a baseline So so imagine this baseline energy level that your body has and it tries to maintain that baseline And what really truly affects your baseline energy level are the important things activity Diet and sleep or the three biggest things and that'll affect your baseline That's the main one and and that's pretty much it now I can hack that by taking Chemicals and compounds and herbs that hack that system and push my baseline up But my body will aim to bring that baseline back down to normal and the way it figures out to do this is If i'm still taking these substances My body will then just lower my baseline down the regulating It'll it'll bring my baseline down to where it to below where it normally is So now when i'm taking these substances i'm back at my normal baseline Now that's going to be a shitty situation when you stop taking those those supplements When i stopped taking the ephedra Four weeks later or three weeks later. Now my baseline is lower Try to remember the energy Yeah, that's why people have look look if you've ever tried to quit drinking coffee or caffeine And you know how shitty it feels for a good three to seven days Multiply that times five And that's what it feels like when you go off of other fat burners because caffeine the withdrawal sucks Don't get me wrong going off caffeine. You feel lethargic tired. You might get migraines You might feel depressed even go off of ephedra and you'll feel Even worse. It's a shitty feeling. I had a friend who lost 60 pounds taking the ephedra caffeine aspirin stack, which was the old school eca stack from back in the day He'd lost 60 pounds. He was taking it like crazy three times a day killed his appetite Was it needing much working out like crazy? Went off those pills. So he lost all that weight and I don't know how many months Went off all of them because he was getting heart palpitations and stuff Which some of the other side effects from these fat burners are pretty bad good lord Gained all the fucking weight back and had a slower metabolism now to boot So these aren't things that I you know, they're not answers to really anything. I think Ephedra It can be fun to take sometimes That's pretty much it like if every once in a while you take it once Every other week because you want to get hyped up for a workout or not sleep, you know for a few days Yeah, or whatever look at Doug just pulled up. This is the top the top five fat burner. I think this is a big ad I don't think this is a real list. Oh, no. Yes, it is. It's not it's not just by that company Well, it says buy now look at all the look look at all the rest of them scroll down more Yeah, I don't know what's see here's a deal. Those are all four different companies right there Yeah, look at the ingredients of the fat burners and I guarantee it's a combination of the ones that I I kind of mentioned nothing new Nothing has come out that is nothing's ever come out to to be like this Even clem buter all which is an illegal substance that bodybuilders visit competitors and bikini competitors will use Even clem buter all is only really effective for about a week or two And then after that the body adapts and then you it stops working and on top of it Here's the here's the other thing I want people to keep in mind The biggest proponents of fat burners are people on anabolic steroids and the reason being is here's a deal When you go on these really powerful central nervous system stimulants you are stimulating a stress response in the body, which is Hallmarked by elevated levels of cortisol and depressed level levels of other anabolic type hormones Now if you're natural, that's terrible. You're going to lose muscle You're going to feel like shit and the weight you lose is going to be is not going to be all body fat But if you're on anabolic steroids You can get away with taking something that puts you in a state of stress This is the same reason why you know guys on lots of gear can get away with not sleeping that much Or you know taking all these stimulants or whatever because they've got these high levels of testosterone all the time Whereas the average natural person like my testosterone is going to fluctuate based on what I'm doing But if I'm injecting myself with testosterone I can stimulate the fuck out of my central nervous system with all these Crazy stimulants and I'm not worried about elevated cortisol levels like I would be if I was natural And that's the thing like everybody I know who's natural It's ever taken hardcore fat burners a lot a lot a lot They end up just losing a lot of muscle and then when they go off of them they gain everything back So it's the one category of supplements that I'd say complete waste Almost complete waste like avoid them completely It's unfortunate because it's probably one of the top top sellers when you look at course Yeah, you look at the ones that sell them and you feel them That's the thing you feel them when you take them if I give you like if I give you old school Zenadrin or old school hydroxy cut, you know, which which contained a fedra For sure you're going to feel that shit if I give that to you every day for five or six days For sure you're going to lose some some weight on the scale So yeah, see looks indifferent is one of the top ingredients You know, but some of the other stuff threal bromine. There's the one the other one that I told you about green tea They get white willow bark willow bark. There's the there's the aspirin caffeine That's exactly those are exactly the things I told you that they put them They're all a combination or a mixture of all those things and sometimes what they'll do is rather than put The herb name like sinifrin. They'll put the molecular That like the the chemical name so it looks like this long complicated like oh, it's this new compound that they discovered Science That's all it is. It's just caffeine Next question is pravaran As a personal trainer, I spend at least an hour a day with my clients and over time we create a bond Where is the line between it being professional and a real friendship? Is it unprofessional to consider them as friends? They shouldn't be sleeping in your bag. Yeah, don't bang them. Yeah. No, that's that's a that's a given That's a wrong move. You know, this is a good question because if you do when I first read this, I thought So just to do that. Sorry. He had to he crossed the line. Oh, man Anywhere for me. That's a no-go to you right there and say, uh, you don't bang your clients. Are you fucking mario? You know, I the rules that's how committed Justin is right there. You know, I'm very professional when I read this I at first at that. Well, that's not that big of a deal. I always become friends with my clients And I really thought about it and I say, okay how Often did I actually go out And hang out with my clients or go over their houses and have dinners and stuff Yeah, and remember keep in mind. I trained a lot of people for Over 10 years consistently. So these are people who we became very close with In our sessions because I'd see these people Two days a week for an hour for you know for 10 years So we're gonna get very close and and I thought about it and you know what? I didn't do it that often I didn't go out at all I can I can actually count on one hand how often I would do that and it's because I think I instinctually knew Because it makes it weird like it blurs it Yeah, because I'm charging this person a hundred dollars an hour and then they become my good friend And then it's kind of weird. I mean if are you about your business? I mean if you're about your business, okay Here's the deal like When and this is and this is how I used to teach my clients not to fuck their clients, right? Because that's very very common by the way like 70% of trainers like end up sleeping with their female clients. So It's it's crazy Crazy crazy comments. This shitty statistic. It is. It's how many guys or trainers the girlfriends are listening right now Like what? Yeah freaked out right now. Well, it's a true step And uh prize the same stats right now. It's crazy and what's funny is that those those trainers that do that are never The top dogs. They're never the best of the best. Maybe you're good, you know But I guarantee if you didn't sleep with them, you'd be better the reputation It's going to carry with you regardless right what you think right and not only just your reputation But then also the these clients so and I'm talking about sleeping with but it's still it's still counts with this crossing The boundary thing because like you're saying sal and it's and it's very similar to the You know once you cross the professional boundary and now we're friends or we're sleeping together Like now the whole money thing changes Where if you can always keep a boundary there It's funny how many people will continue just to resign with you because of the simple fact that you've kept that boundary there I i'm very very aware that there was many clients that I train them. I changed their bodies. I changed their lives. I taught them everything I need to know But yet they still paid me years later because deep down they are hoping that more would come of the relationship And so I think that it would it would be smart For you not to encourage like you or trainers to have any relationship outside of the the business now Maybe you train a client. You guys were really tight. They finished their contract months go by you become friends and there's no There's no business going on between the two of you like who am I to tell you who your friends shouldn't should be If for all I know you could you could end up meeting your best friend for the rest of your life You know and they ended up being a client of yours at one point. That's totally understandable. It's it becomes a strange imagine imagine training someone for four years, okay And then you start hanging out outside of the sessions now you guys become friends your families get to know each other You know their kids. You're like becoming good friends they're It's gonna be weird asking them for money for package of training It's gonna feel kind of strange and look maybe you do get a really good friend out of it in which case It might be worth it But you know for me personally like I said I can count on one hand the amount of the number of clients Don't try and manage both like that's I think that's the advice is like If you find someone you hit it off with they become friends like by all means become friends But then don't expect to do business with them Right if they're a real friend you probably wouldn't do business with them So don't and you do get very close with people during your sessions I mean like I said if training for people training people for 10 years Oh, you know two sessions a week you get close in the session That's where you leave it You know and I've just learned to do that because It does it blurs the lines and like there's probably a handful of times where I've actually like because like I have kids You know and I'm in a different stage in life and like my clients have kids They'll interact and you know, we'll go to event where you know, I know they're there We're there we're all hanging out But it's very infrequent and that was the thing that I wanted to just make sure yeah like they knew me for Coming to their house and like training and everything is completely separate with that But I used to have actually this late at work with me. She was nutritionist and She was training underneath me to become a trainer And so I I offloaded a couple clients, you know with her and I just Immediately saw like red flags all over the place because she was way too involved with their personal life And would hang out would take them to lunch would do this and turned into this thing Where she actually conspired against me took the clients away from me because thought thinking that like her You know scarcity mindset like oh, I need these clients and like we're good buddies now and all the stuff and turn them against me Inevitably they came back to me a couple months later, you know like like clients They get uncomfortable with it too, you know, so it's just you just don't cross those lines not worth it Our next and final question is from zine Queens What is your favorite mythical creature in line? I'm assuming sal only got three questions up today. And so jesson had the fourth one I don't fuck with you guys. My favorite thing. Let's just talk about nonsense. Yeah mythical creatures, you know Uh, I have one tattooed on my back. It's the head of medusa Medusa's got to be one of my favorites. Yeah, that's a kind of it is a good one You know why I like medusa One of my Favorite movies of all time when I was a kid growing up was clash of the titans clash of the titans the original one You remember remember that one? Yeah, was it the one didn't have the little gold owl. Yeah boobo. Yeah boobo Yeah, yeah, that's how I loved that movie and in that movie Um What's it perseus? Had to go cut the head off medusa to use it to defeat the kraken which was this Big sea monster that was going to come and destroy the city of japa. Wow. How do I remember all this shit? This is insane. Yeah, am I hitting the right jesson? You are. Yeah, okay, because you're you like this with that too So, uh, because like nerds corner. Yeah, it is So the kraken was going to come out and it's this big like six armed monster That was going to destroy the city and perseus was going to save it So he goes and asked to kill medusa and medusa if she looks at you turns you to stone. Yeah, so the way he killed Uh medusa as he used this shield as a mirror because you could look at the reflection was this Um, you're your thought process with your tattoo. Is that just in case you go to prison? Yeah You turn everybody into stone that uh attacks you from behind Don't hit me from don't hit it from the behind Don't hit me from behind bro, or you want a rock card? One of the two, I don't know. I don't know. It's one or the other I feel like jesson was holding all this stuff in from the weekend right here. He's just like, okay These motherfuckers have been throwing jokes. He's low car, bro. He's low car. I get feisty, man. I get feisty No, but I like I like medusa because it's a cool story. She was uh, I guess she was Uh, somebody that was super into her looks and I think that gods punished her by making her headiest and giving her snakes For hair and yeah, but anyway, the reason why it's on my back is the original symbol of sicily Is the it's called the uh, turnakria, which is the head of medusa and then three legs coming out each end And the medusa was the goddess of sicily given to us by grease. So that's why it's one of my favorites I have some others too, but I'll let you guys go next. Yeah Come on adam I'm gonna stay in my lane and say that I don't have a fucking answer for this because I'm not because I'm not a Fucking nerd. That's why oh my god. I didn't have I don't have a mythical creature. I've ever even thought about dude You don't you can't name a mythical creature. I know the leviathan I don't know what that is a biblical creature, bro. It could be a monster. It doesn't have to be a from mythology from greek mythology I'm telling you right now. I've never even thought about this for like you like merman for like I won't I mean I trust me. I want to contribute to this nerdy conversation as much as okay How about this if you could be any monster? What would you be a monster? Yeah? If you could be like a like a fan a fucking monster. Oh god I play the game. Yeah, I can't play a game that I've never played before dude. I've never played. Let's talk about the same Creatures, I mean we'll leave him with bigfoot. Yeah, I mean just and go tell me what I do. This is your question I know you got a fucking great answer And the reason being everybody's onto this unicorns and you know, no dude Like you want a functional creature, you know, I want to get on top of this thing and fly Why the fuck I want you know and like Gallop on top of buildings, you know, I mean like that would be awesome Do you remember the movie do that or dragon? Did you guys ever dragons? Of course dragons gotta be right Dragon I Right on top of a breeze fire burn villages, you know, actually I changed my answer Definitely dragon. I'm a dragon. Did you guys ever watch the movie cruel? Did you ever watch that with the A long time ago So and in there they get on these horses that are the fastest horses on earth and they make fire They're so fucking fast and they don't have to run on the ground. They like run off the cliff But they keep going they leave like a trail of fire. You guys need to watch cruel Wow, we need to get higher that where is that we're back to the future got that You know the tire tracks. Oh, but oh, okay. Here's the thing Uh, what was the movie that just came out where the kids in the in the video games great move ready player one Yeah Okay, at the end when they're when they're trying to break down the big force field and get in and he has Then he the guy pulls out a ninja star one of his friends. That's the ninja star from cruel So you would have known that had you watched the movie, but you didn't get that piece of pop culture Yeah, you didn't get that piece of pop culture. Wow. All right. How about this adam? We're not leprechaun king kong leprechauns. You want to be king kong? Here? Yeah Oh, why? We gotta give him more Why because he's fucking a gorilla or an ape is already fucking badass just a regular size So a super size fucking so here's some trivia for you Uh back in that you guys know godzilla right you guys watch godzilla films when you're a kid Love oh, I love godzilla godzilla versus mothra. Oh, that's a good one godzilla fights king kong in so the Japanese directors made a A movie of king kong versus godzilla and it was supposed to be the blockbuster the epic. Okay epic, right? There is a there was a little bit of trivia though. They created two endings The one that they aired in japan has godzilla winning The one that they air in america had king kong winning I did not know this as a kid. I watched it king kong is because king kong is american Yeah, because he goes to new york and is like on the empire state building and all that Well, yeah, because he's an american mythical monster godzilla is the japanese one So they made two endings so the audiences would be happy smart either way smart businessman So would you rather be a vampire or a werewolf? How about that? Vampire really yeah, they have more style both you guys more seductive Really you too. We'll do it like you're a werewolf the fuck as long as i'm not the glittery, you know vampire kind Yeah, yeah, not the not the new i'm more like the lost boys one. Yeah, yeah, that one's pretty cool I think a werewolf's better. Don't you? I mean why you're a hairy teen wolf. Yeah, you're a hairy animal teen wolf was good. He was kind of cool Yeah, that was kind of cool. Yeah, but you're gonna scare the shit out of like anybody Exactly, we're not gonna get uh, exactly justin this is the salin justin podcast There's not a lot of things that I don't have something to contribute. This is one of them I don't have a lot to say you could have a mythical pair of sneakers Oh stupid check it out. We got a bunch of free guides available for everybody. They cost zero dollars Nothing free. You say mind pump free.com also By the way, if you want to learn more about us as your hosts You can follow us on instagram. 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