 Welcome to 21 Convention Orlando, Florida 2017. I'm Socrates today's guest host on 21 Studios Radio I'm joined by Roger Allen Curry and Richard Cooper today I guess we're gonna be starting off fast and furious while talking about fast cars loose women and chicken wings So gentlemen, let's get going Well, I love chicken wings and so much that for a few months I Tried to be a raw vegan Until I went to a social event and I saw chicken wings. I was like, okay the vegan lifestyle is not for me That's the one meat item. I cannot give up. So The only thing I love more than chicken wings is good pussy. Yes. Yes Yeah Known as the godfather of direct game, yeah, there's some people give me that time Godfather verbally direct game. There we go. I want to make sure I get that right. So fantastic. Yeah, and then You know in a PUA community that there seems to be these two factions of direct and indirect Some people are exclusively one or the other then there's other guys like I heard Ross say he kind of likes to go either direction I Probably lean towards more being exclusively about direct game. Now. See I've seen direct game My understanding is there's direct game and going fast. You are like a street racer What I've seen water for everything else reputation and it works, you know And when a lot of times we have lots of sense of masculinity on its directness, you know People's time is critical and you know when you sit down and have the ability to wave off all the kind of social Bullshit kind of getting into it and go into showing showing real intent you kind of exhibit that without necessarily going straight Aspy and obnoxious, you know, and so can you kind of go into an example that really quick for our ideas? You may be a little bit of that plus your origination story as well Well, it's actually you you said the key phrase you said time is critical And what I tell guys that's for me the difference between whether someone's gonna favor what I refer to as mode one Verbal communication style which is upfront specific straight to the point versus say mode to which is more cautious and indirect I say the number one factor is how much do you value your time? because I'm the type of guy I Don't like that slow setup because some women might reject you before you've had a chance to even express your interest You do all that oh how you like the weather God, do you come to this restaurant often and before you even get to say I'm even attracted to it when it's like, you know What could you just leave me alone? I'm trying to eat with my girlfriends. I Like to come at it. Now, you know, it's not It's I vary it from woman to woman. So Some people think I just all the time go up to women say hey, my name is Alan and I want to fuck you I Get that a lot of cells I mean, you're not the guy that just walks around and supermarket drops condom in a woman's You're gonna need these She brought up to ask me I'm not just a total ask me type dude I mean I am more smooth above but essentially yeah, I let women know I would say generally within the first three sometimes within the first five minutes I would say for me no later than the five-minute mark. That's like my absolute latest I'm letting the woman know what my interest is and that's to be intimate with it And I'll let her know if nothing else if I don't put it in terms of I want to have sex with you I want to fuck you I'll tell the woman I'll say I'll let you know at the outset of this conversation if you're looking to recruit a new Male girlfriend play brother purely plutonic male friend. I'm not the guy right so we can end this conversation right now That's what you know There's been a tremendous change in social media particularly with dating environment because you know a lot of the guys and I have friends It'll sit down and do this and I'm gonna quote a particular individual his first text or message to to anybody will be you know I want to come on your face and And you know one there's just kind of the shock element to but it's very direct and the other is women actually respond to it They look at the profile see it no doubt They're good to go and there's so there's a lot of women who have sexual agency or willing to express that are looking for that And they don't want anybody who doesn't know how to have that command of the knowing themselves But of their sexuality and they're terribly responsive to that Exactly see I Feel like when you talk to a woman in some way you have to challenge Her sexual sensibilities. So if you come across as mr. Basic conventional guy Yeah, you might make her feel a little warm and fuzzy. She might say tilt her head. He's sweet But you haven't challenged your sensibilities and it's when you challenge your sensibilities that she feels that tingle between the legs No, we were the one that spotted when they start crossing the legs Yeah, I look for at least minimum two signs from a woman And I learned both of them from ex-girlfriend. So it wasn't just coming out of my head One is when the tongue comes out of the mouth usually up into the left like That's the sign that woman's pussy is getting wet and if she's sitting down She'll start crossing and uncrossing or she's standing up she'll And that's because those pussy juices start flowing out and it makes it feel uncomfortable for them to just say Stay still like that. So they have to start moving Now, why do I have this belief that you know how to run a great barbecue? That sounds a lot like cooking to me And you just got a slow cook My cue game is real nice It's real nice. Have you read his book? You know one word that repeats often is marinade, right? I'm telling you we're gonna have to get it. So you know you know not only direct communication game But you actually the word marinade is Application to your style Often still both men and women if I drop what I feel is wisdom one of I'll say Richard let's let's move this off to you to bring you bring you out fast cars Big tits around ass. Yeah, like who doesn't like you know tits an ass, right? If you don't and I don't know you're not a man you know the other thing for me is horsepower like I love fast shit and I know most guys that even aren't car guys like fast cars like there's not a person that I'll say You know, there's a key to the array take it for a drive and it's like no, it's okay. I'm good But yeah, I'll take that for a drive even though I drive a Prius or some shit like that So yeah, like I've always liked fast cars ever since I was 12 years old And I set my eyes on like a poster on a wall of a white Lamborghini Kuntash with like the phone dial wheels and a Pirelli logo and on Right, yeah, like you know most kids that era had something like that on the wall So I've always been a complete petrolhead and I created you know Like the YouTube thing because of my passion for fast cars and entrepreneurship and the story basically was Find friends that were successful entrepreneurs that had fast cars They want to tell the story like the success rides about the challenges of successes You know all that kind of stuff and I did a bunch of videos Like after five or six fast cars and friends I ran out of friends with cool cars and fast rides I was like, oh, okay, so what do I do now and I started talking about like business tips like how to manage lawyers and business and hire people and deal with Employee problems things like that and then somebody came along one day and goes you should do a video on types of women to avoid dating I know I guess I threw off the vibe that maybe I was single or I was dating or something And I wasn't you know, I just broken up with somebody and I was dating somebody that had Daddy issues needed to be saved and was constantly fighting with their ex over money and support And that thing blew up. I had like 400,000 views. I was like, huh, people want to see this shit right so I started I started doing videos on You know dating tips understanding women better and even at that point I was still plugged in very not very blue-pilled But still but still very plugged in and it wasn't until a friend recommended a role with Tomasi's book rational male read that and That's when I really woke up That was about a year ago actually and since then the channels really blown up I've done a lot of videos on the topic and to be honest, you know having you know I come from a social anthropological background on it So this was nothing new to me You know it just became culturally mainframe when the movie Matrix came out, but you know relatively with an ear That's a relatively short period of time Yeah, and you've really kind of thought in being plugged in was there any resistance to it? What was your process because I know a lot of times people talk about the world kind of being pulled out from an Or is he didn't fall into a rabbit hole? Well, I've what I guess like the past five years in my life I've seen a lot of shit that's been pandered to me like this is true And you got to do things this way and it's all a function of you know Society religion economics family upbringing and all kind of shit and then when you start Like diving into the cold-heart truth like the facts of the way, you know people respond like you understand How women respond to certain inputs and you understand, you know architecture and design and building stuff like that and you know from my perspective as an entrepreneur like I've I've seen it and I fought it and I spent a lot of money like fighting shit Like I spent 50 grand lobbying the government for some ridiculous legislation that we never want on That was a couple years ago. And it's like there was a sequence of events that happened that Just pulled the plug right out. So Now it's like I feel like I have this superpower like I see shit as it is I see businesses it is I see money as it is I see crypto as it is I see women as it is I see, you know interactions with people like I had a conversation with somebody, you know this week and I called a motherfucker I didn't even know him for like 20 seconds. I'm like honeysack motherfucker He's asked me for business tips and he fed me some bullshit and I called him out on it Right and the kind of conversation went from there. So I'm kind of a purveyor of the cold-heart truth like that's the way that people see me They often look at my videos when they're watching the shit like, you know, you're like the father never had I wish like he was still around or I grew up in a household with a guy like you that can teach me this shit Because if I knew it 20 years ago, I wouldn't be, you know, filling the blank today sort of thing So that's kind of my place at the YouTube space. Yeah, fantastic You know and what I find interesting about your stories is that it wasn't the trauma associated with deep blue peeling You know plugging in with the red pill was not necessarily about necessarily relationships And I know you went through a divorce and you're talking about you know What I found very very admirable was your relationship with your daughter Yeah, and one of the you showed if I shared a photo of you with this, you know, almost superhuman body I mean you just take tremendous part naturally and I think probably so but your daughter was draped around your back Yeah, you know the cape and I just thought that was absolutely superb. Yeah, this is a big part of my life Yeah, and you talked directly about not dating single mothers Yeah, and you know you sit down and say you have kind of a mindset of what that would immediately entail And the first one you come up with and the most the one the the subject that you actually spent a lot of time on And I thought was very profound was the the doubling and tripling of the heartbreak Yeah, and I thought that was terribly human in a very clear indication of your empathetic feel for not only your needs But also the all parties involved, you know And I thought that was a terribly unique approach today and it also came up a number of their times within that list It wasn't just a singular anomaly And so I think that's sort of humanizing input that you don't see normally associated with the community based dealing with real-life issues. Yeah, I guess I've never been accused of being covert like I'm like I'm pretty to the point and Authentic and as transparent as possible because for me it creates deeper connections with people like when you tell stories And you have conversations, you know, whether it's in business with women, whatever is it you're doing I always find that the that the talk goes deeper and it's more authentic And it also repels away people from your life that you don't want around like if you talk about shit That is in your value system, you know your core value system You know your actual beliefs and it offends somebody will fuck them. It doesn't matter You know, that's you know, that's just a signal to get them out of your way so that they don't drain your energy You know, I talk about energy vampires a lot whenever I do talks or videos on my channel. It's like, you know I'm spending time with you guys right now, and I feel my energy level increasing. I feel stronger I feel more enthusiastic my brainwaves are kind of awake more now as opposed to having a conversation with somebody where it's like You know, they asked me for coaching advice or something That's something they're stuck on and I point to a cold-heart obvious fact and they don't want to acknowledge it and it's like man That's draining right right so I think you know if you go through life more intentional with your time and value it You know like one of the things I talked about in my chat was about Truly value valuing your your fucks or somebody that asked in the audience I don't know. What do you say was max. I'm sure you can recall it And to be honest, I think that quote that you gave is actually gonna go viral Can you share it again to you it was well, I can't remember what he said that triggered it But it was something along the lines of you know, how do you know when to manage your fucks or if you're giving fucks over something That's not fuck worthy and I'm like well if you don't value your fucks because my concept is it's like a life bar So when you play video games, it's like, you know, you hit the guy and a little bit comes off I don't remember you do a solar plexus flurry and like a big chunk comes off and you keep going until it's zero And then you're dead it's like we have this limited supply of energy in our lives and I consider them fucks to give and You can give fucks to things that are truly fuck worthy or things that are unfuck worthy It's your decision to make like you can choose whether or not to continue a conversation with a woman That's a manipulative time waster, but you've already identified. She's a manipulative time waster. No, thanks. I'm gonna pass I'm gonna go mode one over here sort of thing, right? So when I was talking to Max in the audience is basically like if you don't value your fucks You're gonna give fucks to things that are not fuck worthy. So value your time basically is what I'm saying, right? Now moving I know you you love chicken wings everything else Is there a marinade or some other food element trying to keep with that general theme of a fast cars loose women and good food? I love food. I mean, you know, I eat all kinds of food, you know, I don't know what you want to talk about like, you know Vegetarianism veganism It's gonna sound stupid. I I love Mexican food And so I have different classifications of it, you know, and I there's there's there's difference between a you know Taco truck, you know that you come to have a great taco truck as opposed to local dive You know, I'm one of my favorites is like a taco dive place and then I even have like a you know I will crave taco bell. I know it's terrible My absolute sin is jack-in-the-box 99 cents three for a box. Oh, I just eat those It's the shittiest food I know Get them out here and anytime I fly to Colorado Listen, I I've got you know, cuz I live in Canada So I've got certain fast food chains are available and Taco Bell I get it like fry supreme was my go-to shit when I was younger I get high go for a drive get fry supreme eat that shit in My car get another one, right? So You know, I kind of look at my body as this is this is my vessel. This is the shit that I'm gonna die in right? I can't I can't go to some store next week because something's not working Why you have the body you do as opposed to yeah Well, you know, you make choices every day like he makes choices so to why and everybody else like you know You choose to you know, I talked about in my talk, you know, you can drink water or you can drink coke, right? You know once you know natural well for the most part unless you take it out of the tap and we can get in feminism And how fed up feminism infiltrated in a minute But you know you've got the choice to choose right and I said there's always a direct correlation between what's in somebody's shopping cart And what they look like So if you walk around life intentionally about the shit you put in your body You can't perform like a high-performance vehicle like a Ferrari if you're putting shit in your engine No, Roger tell us about your right. That was the one subject we didn't get before you talked about women and food car preference style I Can't say I'm on coupe slow at all, you know, I would love to have a Lamborghini in my garage Right now, I actually of all things I drive a Nissan Altima You're gonna probably find the shocking up until recently the last five years my main my only former transportation was the best I'm 300 pounds six to was a pink. No You know, it was interesting, you know, you're on this and this town actually has a thing for many rides You know just that you know crotch rockets and whole bunch of stuff And I would go around and I could get more ass on that best But I actually was pulling a couple of chicks off guys bikes Did you pull up and they did Machia they had gun the engine whatever and I'd look at it Yeah, but I but I just do you speak Italian and then of course the guys are like whatever fucking like, you know I'm like, I wasn't talking. Yeah, I'm looking at her You want to do you know telling the girls like no you want to learn and she just literally got off and got on Not a smooth mood unless you can roll out. There was no way I was gonna outrace these guys, especially our way and overload the Vespa But you know, you talk about style and adapting your your style and approach and personality to the vehicle You know, it definitely wasn't high-end but as far as like scooter culture goes You aren't gonna get much higher end than a Vespa. But yeah, I use you just that thing is like a utility truck Now you guys are coming from two distinct backgrounds, but again We're talking about being successful males expressing our masculinity and projecting our reality out in our lives Can you talk to a little bit about that? Yeah, I think I'm not gonna go into a long-winded segway about how feminism is affecting society, but I think a lot of men are scared to be men and As relates to what I do I find that a lot of me and feel almost an obligation to apologize for their sexuality suppress it For the sake of not being offensive, you know Now it's like if you acknowledge that you're a sexual Heterosexual man who likes sex They call you toxic max toxic masculinity and that to me that's just total bullshit. I mean it's our sex drive is in our DNA and You got some people out here They try to intellectualize sex and And then paint the picture that a lot of men are predators But we're not, you know, we just we just our sexuality it is there I know it's cliche now to say it is what it is, but it is what it is and so my thing is If you a man about your shit, you're not gonna allow society to influence you to have to feel like you got to suppress and Basically neuter yourself and emasculate yourself. I'm like fuck that You know any woman who tries to like I got guys that are scared to even bring sex up in a Conversation in a restaurant because they scare they might get kicked out. Yeah, I've been overheard being seen for Yeah, quote inappropriate behavior and I'm like unless a any public venue has some kind of conspicuous sign It says sexually provocative conversations are not allowed here Then that's not illegal, you know Here's here's the key thing women in this relates to my concept of the manipulative time waster If a woman is not interested in having sex with you, what does she have the choice that to say? I'm not interested right period But a lot of women don't want to do that. Why because a lot of women out here will meet me That they're not interested in being intimate with but speaking of cars the guy has a nice car They get the sense of this guy's financially generous if nothing else. He's just very Flattering entertaining and emotionally empathetic so they don't want to reject that guy They don't want to tell that guy they're not interested so they string them along and they might say little things like Larry's really naive She's just playing hard to get she's a challenge So I'm gonna keep helping her lift these heavy boxes in her house And if she needs to move I'm gonna help her move and she needs a vacuum cleaner Never mind heavy boxes. It's let me take you away for a weekend and fucking aspen sort of thing Right like they do some weird shit I tell guys all the time, you know because a lot of the coaching that I do with guys is when they're asking questions about women It's like yeah, like women know inherently that they're sex objects. They know yeah, okay The thing that both sexes don't know quite often is that men are success success objects to women, right? So if you signal You know these cues out to them by your actions by your words by the things You surround yourself the people you surround yourself with the events you go to even the social shit You see when people are posting on on phones and things like that They're gonna know right and as soon as you have these manipulative time wasters that are like, you know They're not gonna fuck or she doesn't want to fuck him like she's not physically attracted to him But because he has money because a hypergaming right she's gonna string them along and be like yeah Maybe it will go shopping with him because he invited me to ask him for the weekend or some shit like that Oh, I mean they see I was criticizing women a minute ago But here's why I criticized a lot of guys and in face with You got a lot of guys. Well, that's what you just said. They'll say to me. Oh, Allen There's so many gold diggers out here. I'm tired of meeting gold diggers and then the same breath. They like man. I Can't wait to upgrade from a portion 9-11 to a convertible Bentley or I just bought a Rolex watch and I'm like What do you think you're gonna attract if if you're trying to make your material possessions your game What do you think you're gonna attract? You know and I tell man you shouldn't rely on that all the material should that should be your own frosted on the cake But if you if you if your soul and specific motivation for accumulating certain material items is just to pull women But you have no confidence in you as a man Then all you're gonna do is have women use you and exploit you and then throw you away like yesterday's tissue And then these man just start bitching about it But yeah another thing when I live in Los Angeles Whenever sometimes I was in between jobs. I would do was called temp assignments And I was pursuing a career in the entertainment industry before I started doing a dating coaching thing So I worked in some departments at Paramount Studios 20th Century Fox These major movie studios and they would have me in these departments sometimes with almost all women And that's when I really Solidified my concept of the manipulative timers because these women I guarantee if you would listen to me You guys want to just start cringing on how Little respect they have for they were like Classic example a woman would come in after lunch and say hey Amber I was your lunch. Oh Linda and I was great. Hey, you're even that nerdy guy Henry Do you know he's now paying half my mortgage every month? Who would be like what? It would be to care they say I haven't even tongue-kissed him yet. Yeah, yeah I mean giving a you know work right now. We're in Orlando, Florida It is the biggest site for sugar daddies or sugar babies in the nation. I believe I mean it is straight up Negotiation, you know and the illusion is you're exchanging values and quote dates and everything else But you just have to provide the illusion to it and it is amazing how much traffic is being generated I don't get that like to like like what are your thoughts on that like when I see these women that are like You know, I want to exchange my youth sex and beauty 22 year old. Let's say 40 something year old guy like me It says I want an allowance. I look at that equation like I look at that transaction Like you should be paying me for what you know for the shit that I bring to the table, right? It's mindset. Most of the guys don't have that. It's amazing. You know for example I in my talk I broke kind of broke it down the third category was provision You know you talk about status wealth power fame, you know All those people who have cheap success have been cheated on but guys that had were physically fit and had the ability to you know directly entice Arousal as you know and sexuality and then execute on it And so you see that you don't usually see it the other way around You know a whole lot You know you if they have it the other guys have part of that as well But it's it's a it's remarkable seeing high status quote high status males that don't have self esteem And don't know how the builder skills to actually speak for themselves in a in a positive way and not be taken advantage You know the smart ones do I've seen a couple of my friends do this. I got a friend of mine. He's got a Bentley Okay, he doesn't drive it for dates for the first few dates, right? He either takes an Uber or he borrows a friend's car. That's like just basic. I face in my own life where I Stop telling people I was an architect. What do you do for a living? I just pay the bills I don't want to talk about my day job. It's not really that exciting. It's really Monday I definitely stopped taking the house now initially. It was great, you know, I you know It was one of the things I just get a split of champagne start open I've never seen a woman that you know going back to the house Just put the champagne out and let the house sell itself Problem is is that you're drawing the wrong people. They weren't necessarily attracted me everything else So I had to learn as a bigger guy to spot the visual cues of attraction that there were certain women that wanted a bigger guy That you know had that you know large, you know Toss them around but then still curl up of them, you know So you had to find that vibe now the problem is I wasn't always necessarily attracted to that So you had to kind of work your market but deal with that but it was something I had to do But it was up to me to sit down and say no, you know, I'm not doing this You know, I'm not paying for dinner It was not uncommon to see dating sites for example where you'd have women lists like if you want my attention I'll respond in 24 hours if you promise to take me and my children No The whole package, you know, it was like it was stunning You know like sixes and sevens that think that you know that there are tens and elevens all day long It's not stunning. Yeah, absolutely. So yeah, so have you seen how much of that you see up in Canada How's Canada, you know the market up there? Well, I live in the third biggest city in North America, right? It's New York, LA Toronto Then I think Chicago or something like that or maybe Miami. I don't know So it's it's yeah, it's it's happening. Yeah. Yeah, like there's you know, you get the sugar babies You get the I don't look it for allowance. You get the you know, hypergamy strong as fucking in Toronto very liberal left-leaning But that's where a strong masculine virtuous male stands out in a crowd of a bunch of fucking pussy beta orbiters Right that like we'll pick up the boxes and move the shit and let me fix your car and even oil change And yeah, let me take care of your kids while you go out like by like the second or third date It's like guys, you know Do it, you know what keep doing it because you know for guys like me you're just creating my value That's level up sort of thing, right? Yeah, personally for example I I had problems that you know toxic individuals come into my life, and it wasn't so much just getting rid of them Particularly with women you have that kind of attraction now Maybe physically attractive runs by a woman, but if she was a liberal bent I just became like the it was a set now I say Saturday night sign fell ups at the soup Nazi I became the cock Nazi and I said no cock for you, you know and just you denied him the cock No, and it was amazing how much drama just left my life when that happened Yeah, you know, but at the same time I also had to take pride in if I was going home alone after a night with the guys No, I just avoided a shitload of problems, you know in the military, you know You don't hear the round that doesn't hit you, you know And so you know you kind of take pride in that and you know all these sort of things that you had to Slowly discover and it was horrible But you know to be able to have gentlemen like yourselves be able to convey that information either directly Through, you know your websites or you know the videos I find to be just a tremendous asset to a lot of men that A lot of guys I find will just they'll just pandered it. They'll just fucking, you know And they go through life miserable, right? Like they it's like, you know the woman that you know Well, you can't be a Trump supporter or you know something like that or I won't date you if you meet Give you a good example How does woman over cooking breakfast make you know eggs bacon home fries and shit eat that We got on topic of Bucket list okay, she's like, oh, you got a bucket list. Yeah, here's my bucket list. I'll show it to you sort of thing She goes, oh, you can't do number 17 Right, and I'm like, well, what does 17 say you know cuz I forgot she's like, oh, you can't do number 17 I'm like, okay. What does 17 say it just remind me. She's like, oh it says, you know hunt a large animal in North America And harvest it and eat it. I'm like so yeah, right. She's like, well, you can't do that That's cruelty to animals. I'm like, we just ate bacon and eggs bitch I'm like, where the fuck did you think that came from? I'm like, we're done here. I'm like, I'm not gonna have you tell me what I can't do in my life on a bucket list Yeah, cuz I was active negotiation that was over Right, but a lot of guys like, okay, it's fine. You know because the pussy's good or something or it's the first time I've had it in eight months. It's like go away Well, it's funny he mentioned coot mentioned pandering See what things I tell guys so many guys They feel like the the the end justifies the means and specifically When a guy is just all about getting late Which I think is a great objective, but also emphasize how you go about getting late so Given extreme example, there's some guys that if a woman was to say, okay, I'm gonna get you to pussy But first you got to tell me that you're my bitch. You got to kiss my high-heel shoes And kiss the rings on my hand There's a lot of guys these these these beta males that'll do that shit and then they'll go to buddy to say Hey, at least I got late, but I'm like, how do you feel about yourself, right? You know just being a pussy like that Like I had a guy I used to do a this podcast show on blog talk radio And his guy was trying to challenge me about direct He was like Allen, you know, you're too direct man, you know, I'm more I'm more of a finesse guy I finesse with women and when I asked him more specific questions in the revealing that he was just basically a pussy And I said and he here's where he let the cat out the back. He said Allen after the fucking the women you thought Don't you like kind of get depressed later on I said Why would I get depressed I? Said obviously you you feel depressed He said well, I thought all guys do and I say you know why you do because you're not being a man about your shit You plan up to these women You you're playing up to their egos you're supplicating to them and they're giving you what I referred to as charity pussy And that's why you depressed because you realize you really don't have no ball That's funny on the show. He vehemently denied that He said no, you know, you try to use shaming language with me and blah blah blah blah And sure enough by three days later. He wrote me an email He said okay, Alan. I gotta confess You were right. He said I knew I didn't have I was a man enough to admit it on live the live podcast but He said when I thought about everything you said that is the truth He said, you know, I've been letting women even the women. I've been able to fuck They were just basically punking me treat me like I was their cuckold and he said that left me depressed And he says so he said, you know listening you was actually kind of therapeutic and he actually ended up thanking me So yeah, man That's a function of men not being men anymore, right? That's a function of men Growing up in single mother households, it's a function of men listening to school university college professors bang on about You know feminism and blah blah blah blah blah and all this sort of stuff And they start to like, you know, they watch TV shows or every fucking guy in a TV shows a bumbling idiot, right? Well, it was that time we saw a television show I think last one we saw was Tim the tool man Taylor ah ha ha right even that his wife would still try to take him down Notches down, right? Yeah, the fawns was like, you know, the last real alpha male that we saw on TV Yeah, you know, it's funny because I'm a big movie buff and to a lesser extent television but I tell guys all the time like on my YouTube I say, you know, I don't hardly watch TV anymore and Matter of fact when I was pursuing a career in the entertainment industry That was one of my big issues. I was I was It was kind of almost contradictory the industry I was trying to pursue a career and I was very critical of because I felt like they were Sending out these images to masculine man because like every time I pitched a script What's known as a spec script in the industry? That's when you write a script and you just try to pitch it to various film production companies The number one criticism I always get when I was doing a pitch guys say hey Alan, you know, you got some interesting characters here But I gotta tell you the women are not gonna like this the female audience will have a adverse reaction to the script And I'd be like so They was like you don't understand business that that's our biggest consumer is Women and children and teenagers. That's who we have to play up to and I would tell them straight for I said, that's the problem though You you you've given guys these messages that being this week. No backbone Type guys is you're normalizing it. So just to kind of like, you know, touch on that a bit Televisions completely like that absolutely and then you get into the movie theaters And then I don't let's use a recent example like a Fast and Furious where Dwayne the Rock Johnson is thrown in jail And he says to Jason Statham across Intently I'm gonna beat on your ass like a Cherokee fucking drum And he pounds the shit out of everybody in the jail in the jail women get wet when they watch that Yeah, but they want to pretend like they don't like that. Yeah, you know I don't like violence and you know We should hold hands and sing kumbaya and shit and not kill animals and it's like, you know Like there's a place in a world for masculine energy and you know, they keep trying to bring it down as long as you rise up as a man Right and demonstrate who you are and you're worth You're gonna stand out. I got some that this is me plugging somebody else's book other than one of my books But there's a guy named Daniel Burton who wrote this book called what do women want and you guys for me with that book? It's a very interesting but it actually ends up Cosigning and validating a lot of my assertions, which is why I love it. But one in particularly He he kind of tagged along with a lot of sexologists who conducted various surveys cumulative research data One interesting experiment they they do in there is called the wet he nicknames of that thing the wet meter Here's the interesting thing They attached some device to women's panties and If if they were to get wet the pussy was to get wet by either a photographic image or video It went over that in sex at dawn to it. Yeah, it would start beating. Yeah, and In simple terms here's what happened they showed women like photos of very like nice guy types or Videos of guys behaving just like the polite gentlemen And women with say positive things like oh, see he seems like a really sweet guy He seems like the type of guy was married. There was no beeps. Yeah, then when they show guys essentially being real men Be a little rough around the edges woman saw that guy. He seems like a jerk. He's a player. He's an asshole. He's a player Be So I'm full of shit women where they would criticize That be that pussy was getting wet And women try to fool themselves so many times in the geek go backs actually your original question about women how to direct effects women That's the thing. I've had women When I'm real direct they'll be saying to me, you know, you're such a ass I can't believe you're talking to me that way and I but I'll see that tongue come out I'll see their legs fidgeting and I don't know I said I get this one You don't have arousal without tension So you if it's not naturally there based on your general presence, you know, it's almost like in real estate I know you've got a real estate background You can force appreciation by improving the place You can force that arousal by creating tension and I think going direct does just that Gross on the set. Yes. Yes, indeed for sure for sure. And yeah that that conventional I'm trying to be mr. Nice guy in this conversation with you. And I Curious cool. Do you get when you go out to single wives? I'm sure you probably get just all kinds of blowback Dude do the women come to your chateau and try it or not really? Oh, I've had I've had some that have that have watched my stuff And While they want to condemn it There's a lot of yeah, but you know stop talking about shit like that people shouldn't know about it Whatever it's like, I'm gonna I'm gonna keep talking about I'm not shutting up. I'm gonna talk louder about it, right? so it's I Don't let other people's views opinions like you know women always try to encourage you to go in a different Direct like they want the alpha, you know the thing that I've noticed I love to hear your view on this, you know, they want the alpha. They want the strong virtuous male Guy and then they try to pacify him at some point They try to bring him down a few notches They want to soften his ass up and I think it's because I Don't know who said it might have been rolling on his books He said, you know women want to be with men that other women want to fuck and other men want to be Right, so it's as simple as that so, you know They they want to know that you have options, but they don't want you to exercise the option So they think that by taking you down a few notches stops you from exercising those options Oh, I totally agree. Matter of fact, you know at this very Convention I spoke with at least two guys who were in situations I want to say both of them are now either going through a divorce or they have already been divorced And they were saying that Alan I Think the biggest mistake I made was they said I felt like I was fairly alpha While I was dating this woman while we were engaged But then once we got married I essentially allow my wife to transform me Into a beta male and then they they lost it. They start giving me shit. They start, you know Denying me sex and now we're divorced and I said I told them I said women and They will never stop challenging like one book. I'm a I'm a Fan of there's this legendary street pit of all things his name is right his real name is Robert Beck He goes by the street named iceberg slim and he wrote this book All the brothers know iceberg slim and he's probably one of the most well-known not the most well-known They had to do the showtime doc on him But yeah, one of the things among other things words of wisdom in his book. That's one of his big things he says He says basically I'm a pimp In a lot of guys think because I'm a pimp all my stable holds are always gonna submit to me He said no, he said women will always challenge you He said it could be as infrequently as two to three times a year It was frequently as two or three times a week But he said women are always gonna challenge you to see if your backbone is still strong And that you're a man who they want to submit to and follow their lead because he said once You can in other in so many words. He was saying you could be strong have strong backbone in 2014 2015 2016 But if in 2017 you start showing weakness you start allowing them to punk you they'll say themselves Well, I can no longer follow his lead. I'm start treating him like a pump. I'm start treating him like a bitch and That's when they get bored and file for divorce They try to fill the void to grab the wheel the bus You know it was interesting I listened to James right because it plays out music, too And there's a thing you know, there's one particular song where it's like you're not you're ain't no man unless you have a hand You know and be able to have a hand not necessarily physical violence But you just sit down and say there's limits, you know, and you're gonna enforce those limits I'm gonna you know in that that kind of sense of dread and if there's kind of this erotic appeal To pushing the limits and seeing how I go creating that tension to be able to then have the sexual release to kind of stable as it again And you see that played out not only in in iceberg or Iceberg's book, you know literally to that and then you also see it also the music as well You know, so it was ingrained in that culture, you know And that we you look at the music today, and it's not none of that You know if you look at you know nightlight culture you have the wall You know the skyline of booze bottles of different flavored vodka Men don't drink fucking you know what cream flavored fucking vodka. Why the hell would you do that? You know, you know or or you know cupcake or any such stuff You know and you also see in the rates of alcoholism with you know spinster, you know women, you know They don't have relationships. They don't have men in your life, you know, you know to kind of talk to that for a second Yeah, absolutely. I'm shocked by the number of single mothers that guzzle wine like it's going out of fucking style like The recyclable is constantly filled beyond like shit. I've ever seen before right like drunk Let's say I'm just being fabulous with my friend It's like no you're being a drunk bunch of whores lying on whatever it is that you're on taking Pictures like you're pretending you're a ten when you're like a four and it just it just drives me I'm just like are you looking at this shit? Like I can't believe the stuff that they're doing and it's like what what? Yeah, two things I talk about my ladies with the cat collections Yeah My latest book that came out last year in 2016 is called the beta male revolution And this relates to why I asked you about blowback from single my I Generally, I try to stay away from what I feel are maybe broad generalizations But I basically assert that the vast majority of beta males come from single mother households Oh, yeah, there's no strong male presence there and and So all their social programming As they grow up it centers around the woman's should be put on a pedestal They should be played up to and I notice all the guys who try to challenge my stuff That's one of first question. I said was that household did you breathe? Yeah, and now almost always say a single mother household And then they have an unplugging right like I talk about it in a bunch of my videos and I don't directly Create content to Disparage or hammer the crap out of single mums because there's a whole bunch of stuff that kind of like creates that But there's guys that will come out of the woodwork and they'll be like I'm 19 years old raising a house for the single mom I'm plugging right now. I can't believe how fucked up I am. I don't know how to function in society I was led to believe all this stuff is true and now I'm seeing this bullshit You know and then they're like ask me for help and coaching You know I've like like how to become asking like how do I do it like next step sort of thing, right? And you're right. I mean, you know vast majority of the incarcerated come from single mother households You know like the stats are off the frickin chart, you know Girls have teenage pregnancies with higher levels of similar mother households kids drop out of school similar mother households Boys and gang activities single mother households You go on and on and on all the way down the list and it's a proven fact that children function And become contributing members of society far better into a higher degree when they have both Feminine energy and masculine energy in their lives the absence of it Yeah, and the absence of it women try to you know, like you see them proudly declaring on Father's Day Well, I do the job of a man and a woman and you know, it's like fuck off man You don't know what you're talking like. Come on. I hate that shit I mean if guys were to go on social media and go happy Mother's Day I do the job of a man and woman women lose their shit Exactly you need to have a moment to do just that just just a little bit crazy Yeah, no, it's actually another issue you mentioned the terms actually spencer Oh, yeah, I just wrote a freelance column. Well, I got a lot of blowback for women But it's based on statistical fact. There are more never been married women over the age of 35 in society right now didn't at any point in US history and This is where I made a quick point in my presentation, but I knew I didn't have time to elaborate on it, but when I said Feminism Has had a lot of unexpected repercussions and consequences for women's falls in that category Watch what you pray for because you just might get it because look at our society pre-feminism When you had a bunch of men strong in the homes and the man dictated who his daughter dated and Like my mother and her two sisters They didn't even think about engaging in premarital sex or casual sex because they they all said my grandfather would have disowned them That was like they didn't even think twice about the cultural backup. You have a family back at you have you have something You know, but then feminism these women said these are bodies. We should be able to fuck who we want to fuck And that's why I tell me and the ones who feel somewhat guilty up for wanting to pursue casual sex Women essentially asked for that. They said we want to be able to fuck outside the context of marriage We want to be able to fuck without our father's approval We want to be able to fuck other women if we want we want to be able to do all this shit and when society said, okay Guess what happened? One of the things that happened is now you got fucking dump culture That ain't man's fault. That's that's women who essentially asked for that shit And so what's happening with a lot of women into the comic you made earlier coupe about Talking about the sugar babies and they basically just willing to sell their companionship while they're young This is what's happening with a lot of women guys are fucking them when they're hot and young But once they reach about 35 36 37 These women say okay now I want to get married and guys are like Surely you just yeah, and they're out here bitching about what what do mean? Why do men ignore us women who are like 40 years of age and older because you shit when you were young You should have been trying to snag a fucking husband. That's what you should be doing right in the car So carousel and totally hit the wall. Yeah, you guys hate to do this. We're gonna have to wrap it up Okay, it's been absolutely blast Thank you so much. Where can they find you and what products and services do you might have available to me yet? I well first of all, thank you for being such a great moderator Sakrates, and I respect both of you gentlemen highly people can find my books on amazon.com have ebooks paper bags and audio books as well as a division of Amazon called audible.com have for audio books My main website is direct approach Dating as one word direct approach dating Dotcom fantastic Richard was the best way to get a hold. Yeah, so I'm more of a youtuber right now I haven't kind of put out any book content yet But you can find all my shit for free on YouTube and entrepreneurs and cars on YouTube more active on Instagram Than I am on Facebook or anything, but you'll find entrepreneurs and cars there I also offer coaching the guys that are stuck on something in their life whether it's navigating a divorce Understanding what's going on with female dynamics and nature and even business coaching because I'm an entrepreneur also That's on a platform called clarity.fm forward slash Richard Cooper. Fantastic. 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