 Okay, thanks. Hey everybody. All right, we are live from the MIT Media Lab. Thank you very much. With the with the report outs and the presentations from our teams from the hackathon. Could you let Tammy know that we're starting? Okay. And so first up we have edu key Michael welcome everyone raise your hand if you have ever looked at someone's LinkedIn profile and you're like I don't know if they really did the stuff that they said they did raise your hand if you've ever seen that excellent we are the verification of linked in our name is edu key we verify credentials the basic problem that we face in our world today is that it's fast moving we don't really trust all the people that we interact with these days things are always changing and one degree from one institution is not going to be the measure of success you need to get badges and certifications get continuing education you need to work at certain firms get some years there go to another firm so that you can really get all of your credentials really making you that special person but how do we verify that that is what edu key does we verify all the credentials that you claim on linked in or your resume or for whoever you are representing yourself to we actually have two customers consumers and business I'd like to introduce you to our consumer customer Harry thanks Michael hi so I'm Harry I recently graduated from Columbia University last spring and as I was applying to work at IBM I had to get my transcript together my resume letters of recommendation proof that I had taken all these internships that I said that I had before before being able to get accepted and starting to work there's so many different documents to make to to coordinate and it's hard for the IBM HR department to go in and verify that I am who I say I am so I'm happy to work with edu key and pay them to maintain kind of a digital wallet of my education my professional certifications my professional experience there's all these different things so that as I apply to work at IBM and then even go on and maybe work somewhere else get a graduate degree take some verified courses through MIT open courseware something like that at every step of the way I have my verified experiences verified opportunities so that I can prove that I am who I say I am in a changing and diverse world I'm going to pass it on to Hanbin who represents Columbia University another potential customer of edu key hi I'm Columbia University and year after year we have two problems one we need to verify backgrounds of thousands of applicants that we that apply to us second we need to on behalf of our graduates we need to verify their backgrounds to their potential employers both of our painstaking process edu key automates this entire verification process so that we need we can instantly verify all students backgrounds such that we can review more applicants in shorter amount of time also we can instantly approve his background to IBM such that we don't hold back our proud graduate Harry in his interview process so by using edu key our staff saves so much time and complaints that come in our way we are happy to use edu key thank you Columbia University it's a great endorsement isn't it so as you can see we make money from two lanes the consumer lane people like Harry who's happy to pay us to put his information on the blockchain and then pay us for every time he wants one of his credentials verified he's happy to pay us because he wants that job or that new opportunity or that consulting gig Hanbin from Columbia University on the business side wants to pay us so that we can streamline their back office in the admissions office when they're trying to look at all the applicants coming from various high schools they're already certified they don't have to make sure that that student really went to that high school so we open them up on that M also Columbia is happy to pay us for sending out transcripts and verifying that those diplomas are real so since we have two levels of income stream this is how we can also scale because there are millions and millions of Harry's who are always going to be looking for a job throughout their career and they're willing to pay for that certification and there are thousands if not millions of public schools private schools high schools universities and colleges that want us to streamline their back office by certifying all of their documentation so at this point you understand our business it's pretty simple pretty easy to make money and scalable and now we would like to open it up to questions and answers Daza have a question first of all that's a great implementation I would just note of what we learned about on Friday which is verified claims I think and the idea of walletizing it and then encapsulating that technical capability as a product of a company makes a lot of sense as a business so I'll certainly be a customer and and I would look if to the extent that you all hack forward from this weekend which is always a great outcome you can sign me up for sure I'd be happy to sit with y'all and move it forward maybe we can take some of the slides from um from the master student that showed us how to do verified claims and start to scaffold it out a bit but um but I guess my first question would be um how how would you identify um I mean you're off to a great start with Columbia how would you identify more of your target market and um what would be your sort of market penetration point and how would you gain traction within that market do you have any competitors that you could benchmark against also our just to address the competitor part first the our biggest competitor is going to be LinkedIn so um this is actually something that that you know maybe this is something a business that we start or uh something like that and then we just get bought by LinkedIn or maybe we're we kind of challenge them um but that that's kind of the biggest competitor I would say um as far as increasing market penetration I think you get new leads pretty pretty easily and pretty quickly because as soon as you get one person um they have you know they're they're all a model that they went to maybe they have another education educational um credential you can go to there maybe they had a high school and so as soon as you start you start spreading out and then you approach the high school and you say oh we need this we need like a digital diploma from your high school grad we need a digital BS from your from your university grad we need your the proof that you got this PhD and you defended and then immediately you say also would you like to be a customer of ours provide we can provide this service to differentiate you against other universities as you know for enterprising high schools that want to prepare their students for college um you know universities that want to make their their graduates competitive in the job market that's getting more and more competitive and fast paced it really quickly you can find more leads and then as soon as those universities join then you get access to all of their their digital diplomas and then there's a whole new base of um of workers that you can work with and then it just kind of snowballs from there okay so a few markets and big competitors all right thanks and any um any other questions or uh any more feedback for edukey yeah hold on it's good for you to be heard thank you um have you guys thought about a consumer price point for an individual like what this would cost would it be a monthly price or an annual price so rather than we haven't done a ton of thinking on that point we started to think about um this actually started we were looking to store your store some other parts of your identity your your keys your phone number contact information so that if you get locked out of your apartment or if you lose your wallet or something you can get that information back quickly and then we were kind of thinking well we as humans grossly undervalue the probability that something bad is going to happen so like like i don't think i'm going to lose my phone but like i might just and we were actually talking to this scenario because um on friday night i was trying to go into my apartment but i but it was locked and i had left my keys and my other pair of pants um and so i had to like figure out what to do and you know i'm still i haven't taken any action i haven't um made any sort of precautions to stop that from happening again so i don't think that a subscription model would work however um the the way that the the cost point will probably work out is either by per certification that you verify so say i want to get my resume verified my transcript verified my um proof that i took my um uh some other certification whatever um i think uh maybe that's one way i think maybe even a better way would be to have that but then also a smaller fee every time you send it to an institution or um a potential employer or something like that so a couple like action based rather than time based i think that also we wanted to point out that we're actually going to get in certain situations we're going to be getting paid twice for the same verification so for example let's say that we'll take a particular use case let's say that daza went to the grottin school in grottin massachusetts which is a funnel for harvard university so we start out with charging the grottin school money to certify all of their high school degrees so we make money on that end then we say to daza for free here is your digitized diploma for free by the way we will offer this certificate and the service if you want to apply to harvard mit columbia wherever you want to go so now we're going to charge them let's say a one-time reasonable fee that their wealthy parents will probably pay let's say hundred dollars one time but then when they graduate from graduate school or they go to a certain firm and they want that certification every time they do something that wants certification we'll charge let's say another fifty dollars but at the same time when they go to that graduate school let's say they go to mit we're going to charge mit money to digitize and verify all those diplomas and then we're going to do it again when the student wants the verification so we're actually going to get paid twice which will allow us to not charge that much on the consumer end we'll be probably charging more on the university end because they have more money and we're actually going to be able to show you don't need as many staff people verifying all these transcripts so it's the money savings that we'll be getting on that end it's sort of like the market maker for hr documentation any other questions i think a really uh potential good target for you would be something like angie's list where you know pros and handyman's plumbers electricians coming you want to find them to do work for you how do you know that they're actually capable of doing the things that they say someone come into your house wants to wire your house are they doing it to code dispatch do they actually know what's going on so i think universities while definitely a really aggressive angle i think the actual more direct consumer side of things you could you know people need stuff fixed all day every day and so i think this would be a great application for that too and going off of that point i think one of the features of angie's list is that you can kind of review your review your plumbers and different people like that so that as this community grows in scales that can become even more even stronger as you know you could verify one of your employees if you're a boss or if you worked on a consulting team for six months you can verify your teammates that they were there with you so you can verify peers and it really tightens up this whole this whole program we're thinking about that as like kind of a smaller piece but i think that's a really good way to start out as well any other questions thank you everyone so at the end it's going from edgy key to like human key if you want to go from edgy key to all human keys okay so um next up we have hugo oh it's hago oh my bad we have hago um do you have an up and running um actually let me put it over here sure to do i can do it for you okay cool uh introduce yourself and hit it sure all right hey so for the guys that put people that don't know me uh my name is kevin sandoval and today i'm here to talk to you guys about igo yeah so today we're going to talk about the the current music industry and the current problem the faces it's kind of the the lists of problems are too long for me to describe so i'll let you guys read that but pretty much i'll give you three facts in the 1980s if you were to make a hit you'd make about 45 to 50k which translates today is about sixty seven thousand dollars in today's world if you were to get a million listens on spotify can anyone guess what that that revenue translates to today give me a number thirty six dollars thirty six dollars and so and the third fact is artists are just not making enough um they're not getting paid fairly so and another thing as you can see in this chart if i'm rihanna and i'm trying to push out work work work um i would have to get 2.6 million listens just to earn minimum wage on youtube and this is why a lot of the the labels they actually take the profits at which that should go to the artist to pay for you know whether it be a new car or a hotel a condo to keep that lifestyle afloat and the majority of other um of other sources sources of income and income could be from endorsements or other advertisements thank you so the solution is essentially this is something that obviously you can't build overnight but the the high-level vision or solution would to be a platform mobile and web that allows artists to act as an industry so you want to you know have that peer-to-peer close interaction so if i'm rihanna and you guys are all my fans when i perform i don't really know who you are i don't know the superfan versus the person who was dragged there by his girlfriend i'm just performing to a sea of darkness so not only you know enabling that um really close fan interaction but if you want to buy you know my merchandise right from that platform my tickets right from that platform the digital sales of either vinyl or cds are from the platform as well as streaming so but you have to start somewhere that is an incredibly technologically complex and difficult task so what i would start first i guess within you know the various features that that profile would have what to be just simply um allowing artists to upload their songs and stems or midi files of their projects so what a stem is essentially is kind of like let's say i make a song that has a piano bass and drum track and one of the things that happens a lot of the music industry is that you have a lot of lawsuits because michael jackson sampled prince and then he sampled him and that so they saw you know everyone's stealing each other's intellectual property but not paying each other for and then asking for forgiveness later which causes a lot of legal fees and lawsuits so what you can do right off the bat is create a like you know a a platform where i can upload my song but also the stems that make up that that piece of art so if i made a song that has that piano track the bass track and the drum track i can upload the song itself as long as those additional tracks so if you want to actually oh i really like the piano i want to flip that and make it to like some hip hop jazz kind of thing you can use that and you'd pay me one time for that sample and then we could share for future revenues in the future so it can upload it here you can look at you know artist catalogs even a video um and then new kind of genres within the respective platform next and this would be like you know like and and you know rest in peace in me Hendrix but yeah jimmy's jimmy's waves you know wavelength song so yeah they could browse his his collection that is he has and his staffs in collaborations with other users within a respective network next um yeah and so as we talked about before as a high level future this is kind of like you know what we would see for the platform itself to be able to host which is a lot but we want to start specifically on the platform where a lot of people to collaborate to share songs and and samples so there's it eliminates like that the huge legal issue of you know people barring or stealing each other's intellectual property next and for the roadmap right now um and starting on getting research counseling advice from uh experts um growing the team in june hopefully start beginning in some kind of minimal bioproduct in september lisa and alpha for feedback and improvements at least the beta um and upon the feedback and those improvements in march of next year do a public release and continue upon it um and that's uh pretty much it yeah any question thank you not so fast um question what are some what are some ideas you have for the june time frame which is you know june's getting closer and closer already but first of all i just want to recognize you for um starting this project last night um starting it as a project for the weekend last night and really absorbing the feedback of um christian smith and others who are who got a lot of background in this industry and with technology and reflecting it well um and synthesizing it really well what what are your thoughts on what would be um the first thing to bite off on that the big vision that you might be able to deploy as an mvp in june yeah so like i said i know it's a very lofty thing but i have to start somewhere and i think the biggest thing that is is doable right now because um as people use like services like soundcloud you can easily collaborate in like with other the users within that respective network and share music um i would just be trying to build like a little mobile web platform where not only can you share music but you could upload the the stems or like you know the parts that make up the respective song and then you'd be able to you know can't pretty much cancel out that legal issue so like again like you're a guitar player and you made a guitar song but i really want to take you know that that part that you play that second 15 within the respective song and instead of me like you know incognito like stealing it from you and then having to worry about in the future of you suing me i can like hey i like the song can we agree on like can i pay that one time cost of ten dollars and then we can split future revenues i'll give you half of my you know the revenue that i make on this song we shake on it through like a smart contract or something smart contract or something like that and then move forward so it's collaboration as opposed to lawsuits so i'll say one oh here we go one more what is ago like what is it where'd you come up with the idea for the name i'm i'm i'm from i'm from Honduras so i'm a native spanish speaker and um ago is like to do or to make so that just pretty means it's people who that creator that that they do they make stuff that create stuff that's pretty what what it means it's the verb to to make or create so it's simple and stays true to my roots so yeah any other question concerns comments sure oh oh so he asked um what is the revenue come from the artist and uh so the state of the issue right now is that you know for me to get my music my content to you there's 40 intermediaries between you and i and just in 2018 um a lot of those intermediaries are redundant given that they don't actually add any value to the process or their their role in this current supply chain can be automated can be done by you or the platform itself so i would pretty much allow you to to to earn back your revenue percentages so you'd be able to you know like so you don't take it so you don't sample so you don't song your digital sales your concert sales that kind of stuff you don't merchandise so it pretty much allows you to actually want to act as your own industry your own distribution your own licensing your own rights your own publishing that kind of stuff so it really pretty much allows you to maximize um your your uh your revenue percentages within like the the revenue or the revenue the profits that you you generate because right now within the supply chain artists are lucky if they get the average is nine percent so it's like you buy the groceries you cook the food but you can't sit at the table you earn nine percent with their whole entire supply chain and labels and publishers earn about 50 they take all of it even though you're the one doing all the work so what i would allow you to do is is earn more of that revenue because you're doing most of the work or you're you're using the platform do that for you one thing i can offer uh since um chris mandolin isn't here um i volunteer him to um host uh eight at least one legal hackers meet up uh boston legal hackers to come at least look at the copyright parts of um what are people clicking on when they're agreeing to use the the uh the snippet and or the you know the the track the cut and then um how do you agree on a revenue split so there's there's some we maybe get some best of you know legal clauses for all that stuff whether it be like you know like and agreed upon term everybody's supposed to 50 50 or they agree well you can take 60 40 wherever it may be so where we want to get on all that is a kind of creative comments like boilerplate reusable very digital modular integratable um legal terms we want to engineer the law we want to do it with you okay so let's hear it good one thank you so much next up vibe chain oh wait where'd you go vibe chain now who was it the new where to find the cursor hold on let me good afternoon everyone my name is donald j salva and today i'm representing the vibe chain but before i go and any further i want to thank my partner pre-miss who's not here today for a work obligation who worked tirelessly to make this vibe chain possible today so and then i'll tell what is the vibe chain the vibe chain is the ability for you to set up your vibe at a party and so on and the next person will be able to set up their vibe so basically if you are hosting the party as a host you apply your party to the vibe chain platform and the platform sent out a notification to the guests and asked the guests to accept the invitation and five of their favorite songs what they want to hear at that party as the guests are showing up at the party or they send out their music the playlist is added into a blockchain platform called the ipfs now as they are entering the room or the party they sing a qr code like this it is a quick demo that asks them to identify themselves and once they see that qr code which is on the u-port platform they go ahead and register and automatically a smart contract dispatch to the ipfs playlist activate that person they'd say hey john is here now the second important part will be the smart contract the smart algorithm to determine how does the songs get played and we wrestle with that a lot of people contributed on the idea should we determine the songs played by general should they the song played by beats per minute and a suggestion was that everybody's first song played for the first half hour and then you and so on and so forth so it's basically take away the dj out of the party or the autonomist or the person who thinks he knows what you want to hear instead he plays your favorite song and an interesting part with that once your favorite song is about to play you receive a notification that say hey john your favorite song is coming Selena Gomez is coming right so now you are obligated you are in a sense pushed to show up on the dance floor and make a move and while you're making your move while you're dancing you are setting yourself up you are putting yourself on the moon to enjoy the party and other people are looking at you and one of the benefit of that is nowadays we see parties everybody show up at the party on their phone twitter they rather interact with people outside than people inside with them so we want to take away the attitude of the cell phone we want to we want the attention to stay here i want to appreciate professor dazza's moves who come up to him and say that was a great move that was that was a great groove so i appreciate the music and open conversation we see the necessity for this application nowadays where all the people seeing the vibe can be used at a black party the vibe can can be used for real estate as mr bill proposed in multiple places we see the necessity for the vibe to be here now question that you might have how is that ad form gonna make money we think a lot about that we see a subscription model we see the basic version free but once you are receiving notification or for premium version we charge you for that if it is a corporate party we charge you based on that the amount of people you will have for that party we charge you based on that there are still a lot more development that we'll be doing on the platform but the mvp right now is you register your party on that platform that sent out the notification to your guests the guests put out their playlist and once they show up they will be able to hear their favorite song they'll be able to dance to their favorite music to set themselves up for the grooves for the vibe of everybody thank you here here github.io is github.caps right here you're seeing a live app operated on the web on github.caps the report from the uport consensus team contributed yes so this is this is a good example of how to act and what's possible in in a short yes so any any questions or feedback on my take yes so uh like i'm talking about this could be like something about the bottom 12 so like so the parties that are paying at the door they could just know you know the cards you can see what's on your songs 10 songs 5 songs to to be played but you just have a party and then any guy you know gets your party etc yes yes exactly yes and the approach was for a club and we thought about that and like in the massage you said area it might not you might not be able to think about it as a permanent case use case for it but if you go in state like florida if someone have to go to the party every weekend and clubs are popping everywhere so very good use case for state for a state like that but you're in the college town and when you think about college students who after a hard week of school they want to go somewhere when you think about those places those clubs so this is a very good use case for it and then make sure that up top that the clubs already know who's coming and how many people are coming what kind of music do they want and also another important things was with the i think unique identifier it gives the party host to see a lot of information about the people's coming what do they want to drink first of all or how do you the platform can allow you to advertise to them so there's so many things that you can do with that platform from that check-in exactly so exactly yes so this is the genesis idea we're gonna we want to build on top of the idea and i want to thank a lot of people who contributed as well what they what they want to see there i got some good feedbacks where we where we fix some of this that you port implementation of some ipfs in the background for storage and and a smart contract but it's operated off of this github account and you tried to get up yesterday so we can too act we can act okay one more question any other questions or comments on boxes just one last thing yeah so just make sure right so yes yes yes yes so that some of their music will actually happen at the park which is um is a nice social um social elements right so the next step is like you know based on like when people to buy comes on it's like it's that they're just all making start dancing people are watching and probably give them tokens if they like how they dance with a completely on offer right yes so is it like everyone's going to be watching each other dancing and like is it like one person dancing everyone watching like how is that so the way so if you look at the dynamic of certain parties for example there are people who are there they just want to listen to the music but there are people who are waiting they just want somebody to go on the floor before they go on the floor and let's say i am that person when i hear despacito i cannot sit down right so as an as an extrovert what i will do what when despacito playing i'm gonna making my move and try to bring people on the floor with me right so i'm setting myself up to to pull all the people but let's see and somebody's on introvert that person might not want to the spotlight to just go all out so there are multiple dynamics or multiple way that can happen for some people they will be on the center stage they will come on the floor to show that hey that's my song i'm dancing right now yes exactly we are banking on people at parties who are drinking and they just want to like yeah so we are banking that at least 70 percent of people will want to show up you know or hey thank you for that thank you awesome good hacking all right and um is your is your partner here okay you want to get started okay next up we the customer hi everyone uh thank you very much for having me and for your time um as we're now i've been working and with the help of a bunch of other people i've been working on a project we've called we the customers um so why we the customers well we believe that inherently we need a customer centered democracy um something that doesn't take advantage of the fact that it's difficult to choose another government uh doesn't mean that we shouldn't have a responsive government that treated citizens like people that they truly care about and are looking out for their best interest um how uh why do we want to do this um ultimately legislative bodies uh in the United States aren't creating laws that are connected to their communities a large part of this is because of the gatekeepers particularly the House of Representatives um legislation can't get to the floor of uh of the house if it's not approved by the speaker or going through the committee process so there's a lot of things that keep um um very pragmatic reasonable popular policies from getting to the floor uh because of the inner politics behind it um and ultimately how can we fix this by hacking democracy um we've been envisioning a platform that can allow citizens to directly participate in uh drafting and reviewing legislation um we've loosely called them pub prosels but um they're uh developed through open source communities modeled after github and it would be easy to understand because they're written in a common format and people would become very familiar with uh standard text um these blocks which would be kind of modular modular code that can fit into multiple policies um would have three components that be they have an abstract where um we'd be able to dial in the spirit of the law this is something that most regular people would understand to be able to contribute to but there will also be elements of tying you know legislative language to that and also uh if it's required smart contract language so that way regular people can understand exactly what the quote unquote machine would do should those policies be enacted um and you know how exactly would it work um our policy repository will encompass all of with all the bills that are submitted and even bills that are going through congress and those bills all have sections which have items which we can consider them legislative code um and these are just all modular blocks that can be created and moved around to create new policies so um Wyoming recently passed some blockchain and cryptocurrency laws um we can take best practices of those line by line and insert them into a new law and create the necessary changes to adapt it to a different state um this will make the process significantly more open and allow a lot more people to contribute to what they think is best because we can also have forks of these ideas and find exactly the revisions that would make um the policy most effective and most popular so Ezra is a UX designer and he did an awesome job helping to figure out exactly how this might look and what a platform might look like right so this morning we were deciding you know what should this look like for the homepage of this application we drew a lot of inspiration from github but we wanted this to be not for code bases this is more for bills so basically we took inspiration from github but um we're able to display a list of uh bill revisions up front as well as pinned uh sort of groups of bills um and look at all the iterations of a specific bill and this is what a what what one of the blockchain bills in Wyoming looked like so we looked at this and we thought okay you know what data fields are important if a user on this platform were to go in and write their own bill from scratch so we you know we we we envision like the user interface to have um you know the accompanying accompanying data fields and the user can easily go in and fill out these data fields and then once they've done that they can go into like a text editor where they can easily fill out the sections of the bill as well as the subsequent items of those sections because remember uh within this repository it's it's filled with bills bills are then filled with sections and then sections are filled with items um we took a lot of inspiration from Trello um Trello has what are called boards which are filled with uh what are called cards and we wanted you know what we liked about that was that uh it's very modular you can drag and drop them really easily and if you want to go into like one specific card uh you can you can see more of the information behind that card as well as uh like a comment section so we wanted to have sort of an accompanying uh aspect with our items so let's say you know this is just a bill uh where we can see all the sections it's broken down first into sections but if we go into a section let's say we go into section two uh we can look at all the items that are in that section and then if we go into an item we can we can look at the uh the the text verbatim as well as the activity behind that so uh what we want to see here is actually revisions of the item that users are are are putting forth when they go into the platform you know let's say they look at an item they read an item and they want to flip a few words or they want to flip a whole sentence maybe uh that shows up in the activity portion do you want to go over this can you just get it with thanks that's about it thank you it'd be great if we had version control and um and um the ability to have a um repository of terms that are reusable and to get more people engaged um in the process of suggesting stuff it's but you think about referendums right it's been back in my head or um public meetings and city council right up to congress right up to treaties potentially you know we've got a lot of trade treaties coming now and a lot of people have a lot of opinions on this stuff get hub and how scale hey christian how scalable is get hub what if we had a hundred thousand people um working on this could it yeah let's say like it was it looked like a unix kernel could it scale thousands of people work on the Linux kernel so it this might be the right tool for the job um any any thoughts or feedback on we the customer boomer so just real a couple real quick observations and things to think about uh who here knows that if you're a citizen of Massachusetts you have a what's called a right to petition yes you know what that means is we are one of the states that actually allows citizens to draft and propose legislation on the floor of the state house i mean connecting even giving people that information when i tell people who have lived here their whole lives and their active voters and everything they're like really so that right there just pushing out the information would be huge and you would already mention this um i live in a town that has town meeting and select men no mayor and that is a forum too where a lot of people are confused and you know they want to be involved in their little towns activities but that grassroots thing i think this has some real potential there so that's another thing to think about is that scalability from the small to where does it went to the big global international stuff uh very fascinating thing so just wanted to sort of share that with you guys thank you that helps too is the best is there's actually a variant of a proper of what i call it's called direct democracies you can imagine in new england dating back to before the revolution we still have some towns that govern themselves an open town meeting if you're registered to vote and you're in the town limits you can propose an article you can show up at during town meeting and you could vote on it and you can make amendments and we you i believe we still use little blue paper warrants for that stuff and we're writing in the margins very interesting other comments or feedback on we the customer do you mind just talking you say great stuff and people won't ever know it in the future yeah so obviously i love the project that was actually a team i was on before but i was just curious about like if you found any like like target audience or like specific groups or people perhaps states that you'd kind of propose this to that you know there'd be some kind of synergy with a little bit i think the platform could work for a lot of groups that want to govern just like github can is super universal so i think that uh you know perhaps universities would be an interesting kind of governance organization to say can we implement this on a really direct scale yeah exactly um and in terms of um of adoption within like the legislative system i think that there is especially cryptocurrency is a really interesting example because now wyoming is making legislation and even if we're not looking at other state by state or looking at you know sec we can't write sec law but it would be interesting to see if we could come up as a community um with some solutions that would be a blanket proposal so it's kind of a combination of self-governance and bringing our self-governing documents to a larger body that can turn them into actual law if that makes sense yeah there's a lot of like wolf pack um wolf pack who they're all about trying to take the money out of politics um and states like vermont who essentially have their own currency they pretty much you know they want to see they want to do their own thing um this just sounds like we're out there alley so i'm interested to see you know where this goes from there but uh great job man yeah how do you prevent uh a special interest or a trade association from gaming the system that's a great question i was actually we were discussing that this morning a little bit um i i don't know if we necessarily need to because if it is kind of a democratic process if if a corporation or someone with the interest of the corporation in mind wanted to propose a law if the citizens have a very transparent view of what that law does and through the abstracts and through the common process if it is something that wouldn't be in the public's best interest then there should be kind of a natural way of that filtering to the bottom maybe that's an overly idealistic way of looking at it but i think that would be the hope does that answer the question um any anything else on we the customer could you answer one other thing you kind of sort of touched on it but um when i hear we're the customer i think of my capacity as a consumer in a commercial transaction i'm a customer of a business um and when i think of civic sphere i think of citizenship i think of you know civic engagement i think like i am the participant i'm the resident i'm the stakeholder i'm the citizen um why customer in this case um this idea kind of stemmed out of i took a public policy entrepreneurship class we read a book called raving fans which was all about customer service and it was about how great businesses and a lot of businesses compete on user experience customer service things like that and those best practices there's almost no reason for the government to not treat people like customers i think it's more of a mindset than it is a like a definitional term where you should where when we're creating services or creating ideas it should be for creating the best possible experience not the minimum possible experience because for your customers you don't want to just give them any product you want to give them the best product so they keep coming back if we could have that mentality in government even though there may not be the same incentive structure um that would be the ideal does that make sense um yeah it does make sense um and i appreciate that you that it's thoughtful and so we're looking at this as a as a um some as a as a value exchange and it's wrapped around something that's almost got a product um or a service which is the the law itself so makes a lot of sense with a customer and it's customer focused so all right sign me up as a customer we the customer sarah thanks nice work nice collaboration too okay um next up sanctioned dot i o with mr poppers so um sanctioned dot i o because blockchain is too important to fail um what do i mean by too important to fail well i've been looking at the world of blockchain and icos and especially on telegram and there's a lot of how do i control does that how do i okay there we go so um here's just a sample of what sometimes is seen on telegram so we're just going to call this is a sample of something um scam icos so very nice um logo there and then there's the lamborghini you get if you buy their token because they said buy extra tokens once the token hits the exchange it's going to go up at least 300 percent and since we're legal hacking here um that's a violation which is called the how we act so there's a particular set of claims where we have a utility token and then we we have uh securities and tokens aren't supposed to be securities anyhow um normally when this where i leads not normally currently when that happens on telegram there's no consequence right maybe a moderator will delete a message and say you know this this isn't really what i want but there's not much that can be done until now so um here is our diagram for the sanction dot i o suspect claims process now of course since we're doing this i have to give that claim the benefit of the doubt here so this is just a suspect claim we can't make any claim about the claim yet so it's kind of hard for me to see with the glare um but we have a couple different agents that we're going to go through so all the way on the uh is that the far left we have the uh the ico we have the reporter who's a user like you or i um a bot which will do will record the claims we have a moderator and then finally at the very end here we have your litigator your friendly local litigator who will help guide things through the process of getting some compensation for your trouble with the ico um so the ico makes a claim on telegram then you have your reporter by the way we're talking about telegram because there's 180 million users on telegram so it's actually the most popular platform for icos and cryptocurrency um the same process could be used on other platforms like potentially like slack or riot or discord but anyhow um so ico makes a claim someone says maybe that's not good or you know there's often cases where there are confederates shows that kind of thing um anyhow someone sees something they say something for the message the bot now the bot collects more and more claims because you know there's probably going to be a couple people sent in the same claim we so it's going to collect them over and then eventually it's going to send a collection of claims to a moderator so the moderator will look at the claims right and then maybe i need more have anything else about this i didn't get that last message the back and forth and then we have a template and on the next page i'm going to show you the template but populate claims and then once there's enough claims because there's a um something with a class action suit where you need a particular number of people in order to reach sufficiency so it's about 20 to 40 um individuals generally um so once we once once a particular level is hit then we're going to send a curated legal intake form to the litigator and then once again the litigator now can request more information and get more information from the moderator or from the reporters so if a case um gets to the point where it's actually going to go to a go to court then there may be the need for individuals to identify themselves and then there's actually the tools on telegram to identify then even use a um token transactions on the blockchain in order to show that someone actually holds these you know a uh holds tokens from an ico that might be held liable so um finally the last one here um if something does happen then uh there's a process where anyone who's uh corresponded with the bot in a particular set of claims would get notified when formal legal action is commenced so here's an example of the template that mr. Dawes of Greenwood and i put together by looking at a bunch of class action cases that are already in court right now so by going through them we found there's a structure that already exists and so with enough claims going through you can like populate a template here so we have uh you know preliminary statement the allegations the parties plaintiff defendant and then a variety of um of different things that could potentially be used as cause for for litigation so um there's lots of other things that other things that could be done lots of other ways to go but if you'd like to join uh you can go on telegram at t.me slash sanctions um yeah thank you um any questions about the platform okay cool yeah so i although i don't i haven't done a litigation i've been a lawyer for your 20 25 years in the financial services and securities and investment world so there's a lot anthony del is my real name friends call me boomer call me whatever you like but uh i run a small boutique now called compliance by design that helps with blockchain and crypto startups all the way up to big financial services firms on just dealing with regulatory stuff but on this thing what i think is fascinating is um the litigators already are talking about i'm sure you guys are seeing it the regulatory actions are underway we get it we've seen the sec sweeps that are happening uh wave after wave is coming on that front and we all know what happens in the wake of that boat follow the private litigation so it's because of the you know the grunt work's been done by a lot of the governor investigators what's interesting is since all these ico's take place on a blockchain there's a new play here that i think you can really help with which is the boring nuts and bolts of record keeping and certifying people to the class and finding out who is the blockchain's got it so i think that you might even have an attack on service you could do for the litigation community of oh by the way our bot's gonna crawl through and give you all that record keeping information the verification is gonna be so much more streamlined so this is exciting stuff and i definitely will be uh talking with you guys about that well thank you so one note is what you hear phrases like attack on service for litigation community mm-hmm you can attach cash register there we get to ching and by the way i got so much help there's so many other people who who've helped guide me through this process and i wish they could be up here with me right now i think we've got mr christian smith um just a um my question is how would you prevent people from making um sort of um illegitimate claims uh as a form of attack on uh legitimate ico if there is such a thing and um you know the the answer to that is i don't know and that's the kind of thing that we'll have to deal with when we come to it um ultimately something can either be you know either it's a true claim or a false claim and you know there's a difference between a claim being made and then it being litigated and then actually successfully having a a court of law or a jury decided the outcome so that is actually a really big question of um what happens if there's like a denial of service attack or there's all sorts of ways if there are good actors who can access this then obviously there are going to be bad actors as well and so um like ideas would be a rate limiting thing so um someone you know in the beginning someone would only be able to send a handful of claims and then once they've been established as a good actor and that could give them access to higher thorough or you know more bandwidth with the bot um but it's definitely something where i would need more more help and research and figure that out actually thank you i'm gonna um wear my other hat now so christian could take over moderation for a second while i'm speaking as a person as a participant um and uh gavel me out of order if i say something weird uh but basically um having helped david mr poppers on this project a little bit one of the things that i was impressed by is that you've got two escape valves in a sense one of them is a moderator like like mr poppers is a moderator of various communities who looks at these things and kind of decides which ones are clustered initially and whether or when to send a package over to a panel of litigators to look at and then the next one of course is litigators themselves don't want to waste their time but they could look at these inputs and say huh is there enough air and part of what we talked about before you arrived with um with um with some other lawyers was um is there a way to that an attorney that got a packet that thought this might be a class action i might want to litigate can they contact some of the initial reporters and maybe do some interviews with them see how many plaintiffs they have and suss it out so there's a kind of a couple of escape valves to clear the um you know like the the noise from the signal on this but it's a it's a real question because one of the things that um that mr poppers taught me is the is the thing that a scammer hates more than anything else is scammers hate other scammers so hopefully what i'm hoping for is that there could be a process whereby you know a scammer would turn in another scammer in the hope that you know they could clear the uh clear the way for their scam so okay all right so sanction.io is there it nice one okay thanks okay um what what do we do show anything or not okay one moment though passing back and forth come this side keynote yes that's it oh yeah so get this do you have to plug it in is that part of what you do yeah it's a thing right oh that's the end of the show yeah navigate on this is that good it's having the right direction sorry one moment okay thank you let's get a cursor back yeah one thing i'll take an R oh yeah i don't that's i don't need a mic is that okay you do need a mic i do need a mic okay i can clip it a lot of we're gonna be are ready for show time first of all i want to say that uh like michael we have pivoted a bit uh came in with one title and are leaving with another and we couldn't have done it without the feedback we got from you so those of you who put stickies on our idea board yesterday i want to thank you i also want to thank you for your answer to daria's question yesterday i won't ask her to repeat it but i thought it was very revealing when she said how many of you really feel at home where you live and there were a few questions that what excuse me a few hands that went up so i've tweeted this out and it's a problem state that statement that we're trying to solve for the the fest where we live is disconnected from our dreams and disconnected from our hearts undermining our happiness individually and collectively can we use digital identity and personal data to change that my utopia id's answer is yes next slide oh i guess i do that okay so all of us have a magical place in our heart in our mind in our soul that we call home how do we get there in 1986 this book was written called coming home it's full of values clarification exercises in fact i would say it's an early effort to elicit some of the attributes daria will be talking about shortly in 1991 i was part of an effort to create a collective homebuyer's club this was rooted in a homebuyer id that now digital identity gives us the opportunity to reinvent in fact not just reinvent for this hack i propose this becomes a new building block that will connect with some of the apps that you're building whether it's a block party or whether it's a neighborhood political organization so let's move forward into that bold new future i have to tell you not everyone agrees with that future there are a lot of people putting money into what i call real estate predatory real estate apps in fact at one tech show recently a vendor bragged about we are now in the era of stalker 2.0 how do you like that privacy advocates i don't like it this is what people care about in real estate it all comes down to follow the money and in daria's case her her loan application her apartment application wouldn't include a social security number so how do we give her and how do we give a million other international students the ability to communicate their personal data the ability to communicate who their friends are and where they'd like to live with friends in the future we know that the future now goes through multiple devices and this is what the real estate ecosystem looks like this was the chart we had up on the wall most of the industry if i could point to it is on the seller side of the listing side we're putting a new tool on the buyer side that's the image you helped us diagram and this will now talk about some of the functionality that blockchain will bring into the entire ecosystem the goal is to deliver 30 billion a year 30 billion a year in consumer saving how do we get there using our personal data we might just go down the hallway to talk to an MIT project here that allows you to share data on your terms of course we could turn to the standard tools and some of you mentioned the role of linkedin in your own assumption about starting points our digital data is spewed across hundreds of sites and this is where we need to make a pivot so we were thinking that again what constitutes a home for you and can you actually quantify your heart and what you feel and apparently you can if you look at the attribute consequence and value model our likeness our like for the certain type of product whether it's a home or whether it's a i don't know red bull comes down to seven basic values and all of you if you think about it if you think that you like something it actually comes down to one of those whether it's a self-esteem whether it's satisfaction family belonging or simply self-fulfilling i guess for most people in the room it will be self-fulfillment so if you go by this module if we can just take the main attributes of the place that makes it our home whether it's the people the crowd that we're in and we can relate to the the sense of self-belonging we can quantify our kind of and predict our liking for a particular place this is like this is an extremely basic example of what i what i have in mind if you take a weighted average of an attribute you add it to the attribute of the area or the weighted average of the attribute of the area and times your emotional response how would you get emotional response through this or we all where we all have variables and you know it it counts your heart rate and when you get excited to tell the hey you need a moment to breathe so you can actually quantify something like that and you can get a data it's in your phone and the weighted their average of the attribute which you have for a place would be your own how much value you give to it how much how you feel about it on a scale from one to ten and you know how it satisfies your current need that was the idea that we thought that we could quantify so there are two two broad clusters in this search for the place that you feel at home what's your utopia and what's your tribe's utopia we're trying to develop an app that will help you find that intersection we understand that that's informed by our daily lives ultimately we're trying to create a bliss spot we're trying to create a hip a heat map of where you feel at home and we would be open to partnering with people like my planet they're developing a dozen knows he she appeared in one of her hackathons yeah yeah proposing a new geotemporal standard for personal data so this all made sound ephemeral and a little too optimistic for somebody but here's where it hits the ground we put together a proposal for the boston foundation to to use a housing id to create intentional communities why because once a year a boston does an annual housing report card and this year they're talking about creating a 21st century village a village by definition has some shared values and shared intentions step two in their 10 step plan is to quantify demand ultimately a housing housing id is a tool of demand we want to bring it into the real estate industry so all of you can find your hearts desires our hearts desires often have subconscious scripts from childhood and we want to help you get there for those of you who intend to live in intentional communities know that this is the tool that will help you get there we'd love to experiment with some prototypes and i know scott has left the room and i saw chris taylor earlier but i very deliberately showed that how housing decisions connect to climate change all of us are going to connect to each other there's divine synergy in what we're creating with blockchain let's do it together and throw the party at your house all right let me just unclick that i think this is a really cool idea and i actually needed this about 15 years ago because i live in Manhattan and i wanted to move and i asked myself what did i want and what i wanted was a small town with really smart people in it so i bought a book it was like the hundred best small towns in america and that's how i moved to cambridge because that was actually one of the cities but i'm curious now how would you envision this app or finding out what do i want and matching me up to maybe i should be moving to st louis like how do you actually see see coming out in real form i can try i can try to answer that so it's very difficult to kind of quantify how you feel about something but actually if you think about it logically it's not that irrational it's actually rational it depends on the trade-offs that you are willing to take for one thing against another so if you feel that a small town would be most important to you you could put it as one of the values and you could allocate a certain number from scale of one to ten i know it's extremely simplistic but it's actually something that you could put a value on and then if you say how you feel about the small town and whether it's the town is really small for you where you are moving so like cambridge on a scale one to ten small or big you can sum that up or multiply it and you can create a weighted value to it to the town then you add additional attributes that you feel would be i don't know how cambridge satisfies the number of smart people happening uh living there and you can sum up all those attributes and you can actually predict where whether you're going to like the place or not at the same time you can use others the data from the other people for example if they allow to share it then you could make the predictive heat map of how the place will satisfy your particular criteria that's the idea like can i make a quick response first of all i know that book so i commend you on selecting it secondly i want to say in addition to the scientific response there is a human dimension to it so i would like as sort of an iteration of where do we go from here i'd like to do monthly meetups um around my utopia is the theme there's 65 million baby boomers who are thinking about downsizing there's 75 million millennials who are thinking about co-living this is the tool that will help inform those decisions across generations i once going twice all right well i hope you do do the meetup we'll go right on okay all right and i think that um that is all of the i'm not mistaken yeah so were there any other projects let me just make sure okay hearing hearing none um i think a big round of applause for all of the presenters that was pretty good and um and um so so ends the boston mit nodes um venue or note yeah node of the computational law and blockchain festival and um i want to thank again uh thompson rogers labs and brian for for sponsoring for coming out and hacking with us and i want to thank um everybody that participated in the teams and in the breakout discussions um we're getting a lot of play around the world right now with the report outs and um people carrying the information so if you signed up on the google form or on eventbrite you'll get a link if you didn't come talk to me or to tma afterwards let's make sure that we've got your contact information so we can let you know what happened afterwards and uh speaking of afterwards immediately after this um we'll we go into extra innings um that are optional but i think mead hall do you think so daria is going to daria and i and a couple of other folks at least are going to engage deeper dialogue on principles for ai and based on uh scenario based um uh future mapping and we've got some really provocative um uh future potential scenarios with ai that we'll use kind of as a discussion uh anchor um and the other anchor will be your favorite mead in the hall um so um so we'll walk over there after we kind of put the tables back together so with that thank you very much everybody and gavel out gavel out right on and oh thank you and you love me 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