 Ac gallwch nhw ym mwy fydd eisiau sy'n gwybod mwy gwasanaethoedd ym y peth yn cyflwyno'r ddaethau ac yn ysgrifio'r gresgwch a'r union yn gyfalu. Ac mae'n santh yma, oedd cyfeinio'r ffordd o gwneud am fwy gwasanaethau'r ffordd. Ac mae'n gwneud i amser ac yw'n cpesenau'n gwybod sefyd hingodd? Wrth gwrs! Nawr, dweud bod ei chynghwn o'r cyfeinio gwneud i'w ddeall. Dyna, gwrs, mae'n gwneud i gyddon o'r gresgwch. ond mae'n dweud o'r 15 oed yn staff o'r brwysig o'r hyn yn rhanio. Mae'n defnyddio'r regimen a'r 15 oed yn SES. Rhaid i chi i chi dda i'w ymddangos yn ysgol. Mae'n gweithio i chi'n gweithio i chi. Mae'n gweithio i chi'n gweithio i'r ffilm o'r 6 oed, wrth gwrs o Netflix. Mae'n gweithio i chi'n 6 oed, ac mae'n gweithio i chi i'n gweithio i chi. Rhaid i chi'n gweithio i chi o'r bwysig? Wel, mae'w ydy'r pwyledig ein bod! Fellywn i chi'n fwyledig yr afkich yn ddylai mi newid y nifer. Mae'n meddwl, mae'n meddwl sy'n meddwl o'r ddechrau'n ysbryd. 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It's a... got some good stories-道 lズ ng- principle," Solid man, but... Before we get into everything, I always like to go back to the start of my guess, get a bit of understanding about yourself today, where you grew up, and how it all began. Well, I grew up in Carlisle, as you know, its on the border of Scotland, we just discussed, but almost years ago, I had a pretty bad upbringing in as much as I didn't have a mother as such. that she guide me at 14 months of age where I adopted me, so I never really knew my life because I was passed around, certain aunt's uncles over the years when I was at school without proper, as I say, family life really. So from a very early age Oeddwn i'r ddweud i'r ddwyll. Byddwn i'r ddwyll ar y ddoll, yn y ddiddordeb. Roeddwn i ddweudio'r ddwyll, ond rydyn ni'n ystod o gwmpio ar â 15. Rydyn ni i'n gwneud y ddwyll ar hwn? Cysylltu'n rhai ddwyll ar y ddwyll o gweithio, am y ddwyll. Cysylltu i'r ddwyll He was an ex-forces guy himself by the way, in the RAOC in those days. He could see that I was heading for the downhill slope at age 15. I'd know nothing, I didn't have any discipline, I didn't care. And really just down to your upbringing that if I was out at midnight, you know what, nobody would come looking for me. I met my way home, ready for the next day, skip school as normal, like most of my colleagues did. Just to get on with, you know, all I wanted to do at that age was be a footballer. And I'll tell you why, because I remember watching Pele skip school in the 1958, I think it was World Cup. And I thought, wow, you know, and it was from that I just wanted to play football. Sport, I was always way out, but I was only five foot two and weighed seven stone when I went in the army. So the chances of making it in professional football at that age, and that's quite old, isn't it? You know, for a footballer, even 15, they picked up much younger than that these days. But that's all I wanted to do, sport, sport, sport. I got my way in the end, you know, grew a bit. And I did represent the British Army, which is the, you know, top semi-professional as you're going to get in my day in the UK. So as a footballer, I got what I wanted, but I had to join the army to get it, if you get what I mean. So I did pray for the British Army, and that's quite an honour. So yeah, I did get one wish, but to go into the army wasn't me. I was a long-haired rolling stone fan. Okay, and I mean long-haired rolling stones fan. Blue jeans, Cuban hill boots, a lot. But I was only five foot two and I wanted to be bigger. So that's why I did. So I got there, but the first three months in the army at junior leader regimen, roll archery, I could have been gone if I could have got 50 pounds. That's what it was going to cost me to buy myself out of the army. 50 pounds. I couldn't get it. Therefore, the first three months came, I went, and then when I went back to junior leaders after the Christmas break, that's when I started to get into football. Somebody realised I had a bit of talent and started playing for the regiment and so on as a 15-year-old. And it went from there. How was that feeling, that abandonment feeling? Did you have that or nobody cared, nobody loved you? Yeah. I mean, I didn't know what it was. I was lucky actually to stay within the safe friends and family, but you're talking to somebody who's never sent a mother's day card in his life or a father's day card, but she didn't know them. So what I had, I had in front of me, but suffies to say, I think I was at something like 12 schools, 10 schools, so I never had to settle anything. And it was like, oh, we've had enough of him, pass him on to somebody else. You know, not nastily, but that's what happened. But I got to live with it and eventually at 15, I could see that the army could become a family because it was a close knit. In my day in particular, it was a close knit. They were my friends and they were the people that I'd rely on because I had nowhere else to go. Instead of going home on your break, what you call home, I'd go to one of my friends' houses with them and spend a week or two there. But there was never a feeling of anybody there looking after you. Put him in the army, get him out of the way, and life goes on. And that's how it was. Did you see that in the army, a lot of boys coming from the broken homes? Yep, yeah, lots of my friends, especially in Scotland. Did that make it easier? We had something in common and of course when we go out for a beer and stuff, you've got something in common, you're trying to tread on eggshells, you can talk quite openly about everything. A lot of people I know, certainly some of my friends that I met later on in life, they all came from bad backgrounds and that's how I come to deal with stuff. What was the training like back then for a 15-year-old, 16-year-old? Well, for me it was a total shock because if you've got no discipline, you've got nothing. However, when they found out the guys who had no discipline, we got picked on a bit more, you could call it bully in these days, but I didn't mind that because I didn't understand anything different and in a bullying now if you shout at somebody, they can't cry in the corner. In my day, so what? And it's not nice and I would never recommend bullying to anybody, but I put up with it because I was small. But as I got bigger, I started to realise you don't have to put up with it, but you couldn't go and tell anybody. You start telling people, you know, grassing them up if you like, or he's picking on me, you'd be found out and it would make it worse for you. So that's how I actually tackled it. Seeking through bullying, does that feed you with like a fire or a hatred to then either... Listen, it makes you a break, she has spoken to enough individuals to understand a lot of people who've been absolutely broken by it. It's no matter how strong you are and no matter if you join the SES, it can still affect you 30, 40, 50 years along the line. Do you feel as if it fed you something to then push you to then do what you're done? Well, I've seen people fallen by the wayside for what you've just said. You know, it wasn't for them, they couldn't take it. And the easy way out is to quit. And that's in anything, sport, soldiering, whatever. The easy way out is to quit, but I didn't quit. Instead of trying to bomb yourself out of the army, I had to go at it and ended up spending 27 years in the army all together. And 15 of them were in the SES, and three and a half of them before that were in the commandos. So I put up with it, I took it along with some of my good friends, some of them are still around today. And that's how we tackled it. And as time went on, you grow stronger, you become a better leader, because you've been through the hard part. Now it's like time to milk it, you know, it's my time. And that's exactly how I took my from day one to where I am now. I've got no intentions of quitting, because I had to work hard to get to where I got to. And now it's my turn to maybe have a go at doing some other stuff, but I'm not going to stop and retire. That ain't going to happen. When did you start finding the confidence and the strength to fade back? Probably just about as I was leaving junior leaders at the end of almost two years, joined at 15 and a half, left at 17 and a half and knew that I could then pick what I wanted to do. I was put in junior leaders, I stayed there for two years, or I could have gone out. I've never been a quitter, hopefully never will be. So as I was going out at 17 and a half, as they call it leaving a boy soldier to become a man soldier, but I wasn't 18, you know, you can't have a beer, ha ha, guess what? That didn't happen. Yeah, it went the other way, we had a few beers, but you weren't allowed until you were 18. So I was going now back to what I wanted to do and I went to a decent unit which I picked myself, which is 49 field regiment, Royal Artillery. But that's where I met some of the good guys. They were ex-professional footballers who joined National Service and it was when National Service were wrapping up. And when I went to 49 up in Barnard Castle up in Counten Durham, when I really go into football up there, I ended up captain in the team, these guys were ex-professionals who were doing National Service. They did a couple of years, they went out of the army altogether. I carried on and in 49, in particular May, I was a tracksuit soldier. I could play football four or five times a week. So I could soldier through the day, but I could still get off to play football. The more football I played, the better I became. No, I played midfield and sent it forward, first of all. Straker, fast. Yeah, I enjoyed it and then I ended up going back into what was a sweeper role in those days, sort of marshalling people around and stuff. But I got it to do what I wanted and it represented the Gunners, which I don't mean Arsenal by the way, but the Royal Artillery represented them. I was captain of the 49 Field Regiment team, I was playing for civilian teams. The same when I went to Germany, all I did was going to a tracksuit. Then I played for German teams, at the same time I was playing for, I didn't want to do a lot of soldier in them days, I wanted to go into a tracksuit. And that's exactly what I did, I aimed it down those lines and if it wasn't rugby and football, it ended up being cricket and stuff. Because the most pro he played, the less work he had to do. And there's quite a few people I met early on that did done, but I got to do what I wanted to do and that was the main thing. So I've been told what to do. I went down my route and thought a tracksuit, going to the tracksuit as much as I could. How was that feeling from a kid who's not got much kind of abandoned and trying to get bullied to then being a captain? Because I was captain of football teams and even putting it, it might sound fucking gay to some people, but when you put a captain's armband on it gives you some sort of purpose that you're a leader of my team, need me if the shit has to fan. I've got to pick it up. How was that feeling as a young kid to go through and all that to then being a captain? Well I was lucky because at the same time in those days a fair amount of military training courses you had to do because you were in the artillery. Well lucky enough I had to work for them, but I got all mine very quickly, which meant I could be promoted quite quickly. And that is what I wanted to do. So I got courses out of the way, military courses, and then you put the shirt on, then your captain, and it's always nice to be in control if you can. And if you've got the respect, I've seen you guys to me, but it didn't come down to that. They told me quite clearly it was about ability and where I was going. And you know, when you pick up the trophies of which loads and loads of them at that time, when you pick the trophies up and you're captain of the team, it's always that bit extra special feeling. I mean nowadays you look at the football professionals, you know, you just wonder what's going on, apart from the money to get, obviously. But I got a lot of enjoyment out of doing what I did, and the way I did it, because I wasn't supposed to do that. I was too little, but I'd got up to about 5'11, fit, you know, and I made myself that way. So that was me when soldiering really in the artillery was okay, but then I had other plans as I went along, of which football played a part in how I did that, because you know, I played for the commandos, and I was captain of the SAS football team as well over a couple of seasons. So that progressed from where I was while I learned, but then I decided somewhere down the line, I need to do some soldiering here, and I'd then mix and match that, and that worked as well. So now I'm only going to play football in the army, I played rugby, I played cricket, I played for civilian clubs, you know, all of that type of stuff, at the same time as being in the commandos, and being in the SAS, all the way through to the end of my career at the age 42, I was still playing football. So see when you've got rugby and football, were they not concerned that people would get injured? Yeah, but lucky enough for a couple of years there, the colonel in the SAS in particular, he was our chairman, but he was the next footballer himself, by the way, he's no longer with us, but no, they weren't concerned about it, you know, the fact is that we had a really good team, won most of the trophies, and a bit of prestige, that's in my day, so now they weren't concerned about it, it's the same as going out for a run you get injured, play rugby you can get injured, you know, you can get injured walking across the road, can't you? So nobody looked at it that way, it was you can't play, you know, because you're in the SAS, you can't play because you're a military, now it didn't work like that. It was, you know, that was all part and parcel of it. What age did you go for SAS selection? 27, 1977, yeah. What was that decision? Well, I'd been in the commandos, 29 commando, for three and a half years, but somebody saw something in me after not very long in the commandos 29, they put me straight onto training wing, and on training wing in 29 commando, what you do is, I did my Royal Marine Commando course as well at Limson, when I came back and joined the battery, they said, we want you to go on training wing, which is quite, your job is to run around with the PT, you know, Tops on, and your job is to train anybody coming in to the commandos to take them out, and we call it beast them. Same as I'd been through, it's not bullying, it's called beasting, which you get a bit of a kick out of it when you do it, and you get a bit of a kick out when you train somebody else, you think, well, I've been through that myself, so don't whinge, you know. So it's training them as they come in, I spent a couple of years doing that, very fit, always out on the hills, always out running the roads with the new recruits, passing them, failing them, as I'd been through it myself, and for me it was what I wanted to do. Again, 90% of my time was in tracksuit, you know, just physical out on the rope courses and stuff, teaching them, ensuring them how to get fit and pass their own sort of selection for the commandos, but after a couple of years of doing that, I spoke to a friend of mine who had already gone for the SA selection the year before. Yeah, he went then the year before me, six months before me, and he said, well, he said, I've gone there, he went from our broth funny enough, he went from our broth across to, and then he came to see me in Plymouth, he said, well, I've done my selection rusty, I'm in B Squadron due to SA. I said, God, so I put in for it straight away, and I did the summer selection of 77, six months after him, and he was one of the guys I trained to get fit. So I went there the following summer, requested, you know, you have to formally, you don't get pushed there, you have to request, it's voluntary, you don't get thrown into the SA. So I went there on the summer of 77, and from that day, I went through the six month training, I'd already got my parachute wings and stuff because I was paratrain, so that was the last couple of weeks off that, and I went through it, and by Christmas I was in B Squadron as well alongside my mate, so that was pretty much the sway, and if I'd left him much later than 27, it might have been futile, so 27 for me was, you know, I've seen quite a bit at that age, certain tours of different places and stuff, I knew what it was about, fit, yeah, as fit as I've ever been in my life, and you know, and that's how it started. What tours did you do in the commandos? I didn't go very far because I was on training wing, my job, the first few months there was a tour of Northern Ireland, but when I got the call to go on the course, on the SAS course towards the end, most of my stuff was in the SAS because I was on training wing, they didn't really leave Plymouth because their job was continuously bringing people through because it was all arms commando, which means that you could be, you know, a clerk, could be artillery, could be role engineers, you could be what was like a ordnance corps, any of them would come through Plymouth because they would have to do the beat-up as they called it, and where they all come in, they all get the kids thrown at them, you know, you go and find where you sleep in, and that's how it starts. So my job along with, I think it was six of us all together on training wing, was to make sure that that side of it ran okay, so the tours that we did on that stint would be maybe confined, maybe two years, some 18 months, some a bit longer, so unfortunately in the command that they didn't really go very far because of my time on training wing, and the job is training, not sort of jumping on one of the aircraft carriers and going out to, you know, that was part of the thing you had to sort of say, well, I can't do that, I can't do both, and that's how it worked. How hard was the SAS training? SAS selection training, as I say, I would think if you weren't fit and I've seen this 100 times, it would be really hard. The physical side of it, I didn't find that hard, I've got to be totally honest, it was hard, I'm not being big edit here, but it was fit, and you know, when you start doing the marches, you probably heard them out day after day after day, and your body's getting worn down, I was prepared for that, so a lot of it is in there. The physical side, you know, fit you are, you know, you can carry, you know, you're supposed to do, so you do all those, then you go in the jungle training after it, which you're already worn down after the first month, your body is completely worn down, then they send you to the jungle, where that is, that's hard, really hard work in the jungle, so your body's being worn down yet again, you know, so you've got week after week after week, you have to make the exact timings, you have to do this, but you don't know what they are, so really you have to sit down and go, I've got to go for this because I'm not being told I have to do this one in 12 hours, I don't know if it was 8 hours or 13, 14 hours, so you have to really physically, you know, as fit as you think you are, you really have to put that into practice, and this here has to take over at times because you get tired, that's designed to do that, you know, you day in day, you can't take a day off today, that doesn't work, so you had to just get that mindset for the next day when you finish the first day, second day, but you knew that was going to go on, I know people have gone on that course, and day one they've drawn all the kit out, put it on everything, day two they're handing it all back in, it ain't for me, right, but the more you go through the course on your selection, the more you're totally getting worn down, it says 100 people show up, 80, 80, 90 people show up for selection, day two it's already being whittled down, and by the end you have about 80 there, you might only have 15 at the end of it, and at certain times people go, stop for me, it's not for me, it's not for me, and the ones who want it, just put the head down and go, and go and get it, what made you keep going, well my name is Firmin, I only found this out afterwards, and unfortunately, I mean unfortunately it's part of French, Firminus, and it means steadfast and resolute, okay, so because of what I've done and come through where I came from, and think of the times that were behind me, having pushed forward, I just knew and wanted to get to the end of it and get the variant badge, you know the wing dagger, yeah I wanted it, and that, everything else aside, that's the type of person that I am, I'm still on to this day, if I want it, I've got to go and get it, you know ups and downs in that, of course you're up, make mistakes, yep, learn by your mistakes, yeah, and you know I'm living proof that sometimes you don't live by your mistakes, learn by your mistakes, but overall, of all the, everything I've had to do in my life, nothing's been given to me, not a thing, I've had to go and get it, it's cost me another area, it's fine, but I've got this, if I want it, I have to go and get it. What's the hardest part about SES selection? Well I've always said there, some people think I'm nuts, you know when you have to go in the vehicle in the morning from Hereford out to the training area, a couple of hours, when you finish your training you're running over the hills and come back, have a cup of tea or something, you're going to get that vehicle back to Hereford to get back in the vehicle the next morning, I hated that, I sat me on the hills and run me up and down the hills all day, but looking back at that vehicle and going back to Hereford, up first thing in the morning, back in the vehicle, back out to the hills, be lendless and unstop, it's changed now a thing because they don't go backwards and forwards to Hereford, they're much closer, but for me that was the worst part, the physical side I enjoyed, as I say, I mean I was prepared myself and if you do your preparation, it really helps, it's still good bluffing it, you know it's all, because you've got one body and it's your body it's got to take you through that, so I'll be honest with you, I've said it lots of times, getting in and out of that vehicle night time, day time, night time, one day after another, after another, I just think how many hours wasted backwards and forwards, backwards and forwards, for me that was probably the worst part. What's the main ingredient for people to pass, SES election, because you've probably seen men who you've fought, he's going to do well and then he probably pulls out after the first day, what was the main connection that you've seen the people who did kick one and pass? Well I know people who went there, they came from Germany funny enough, because they could get a pass for a couple of weeks back in the UK, so basically when they came back here they didn't go back to Germany, they could hand their kit in day two and go back and enjoy yourself for a couple of weeks, but the people who prepared it's funny as you're going through your selection process, yeah you've got a big nucleus to start with, you can see it dwindling every day, you can see the bed over there's empty, that had somebody in it yesterday, you know the bed over there is empty, those two over there are empty and that's the people who were fallen by the wayside, I'm not being funny but the people who passed and I mean this, all of them, 99% of them when they finished their training went out and had a beer, all the guys that were on pills and tablets, bodybuilding, they failed, to me had told me a story, okay I didn't touch anything like that, beer, yeah, go out and those are the guys that actually passed at the end, so let your hair down, be on parade next morning and I don't mean go out and get wasted, go out, relax, talk about it, have a couple of beers, go back and sleep, get up in the morning, the people who were on my day anyway, you know, oh I'll go to bed at 10 o'clock or somewhere good lad, they're the ones I never saw much of at the end and so that's coincidental maybe, I don't believe in coincidences, so I think you can see what I'm trying to say is you've got to be able to mix it a bit, balance, yeah and of course at the same time you're bonding and building that friendship with people that have come from all different parts of the British Army, Intelligence Corps, engineers, artillery, drivers, cooks, bottle washers, all of them but you find that that nucleus very quickly comes down and then after the jungle phase it comes down generally again and so on, all the way through to the very end and you're left with what's left basically and that's what I found, see the people who failed, did you ever speak to them and ask why they um normally they've gone very quickly, embarrassed, no they're sent out, you know if they you know mine is at least about to go and tried it and so I'm okay with that, why shouldn't I be, you know if you've had to go and fail it doesn't mean to say anything apart from I've had to go and it wasn't for me, I think that's fair enough comment but yeah I did speak to quite a few people afterwards certainly through the football circles when I met them again and they tell me the different stories you know, how they didn't like interrogation, how they didn't like this and so on, you know that everyone is different, I'm just lucky that I got on the way I did and just pinned my ears back and thought yeah if you failed you've had to go so it's still a crime to fail, some people got a second chance depending on what they failed on and some got through on a second chance, some failed yet again but they tried but it's not for everybody What was the interrogation like an SCS election? Well it's quite realistic, you know you do your escape and evasion, you're thrown out in the middle of the moors at what you stand up in, an old grey coat but a string around the middle of it, a pair of trousers, I think in those days we had enough to make one emergency phone call in your pocket but you knew that when you're out there you weren't quite sure how long you're going to be out there for but it stays on end, all the weather conditions, you've got nothing, you haven't got any food and this is over the parts of the Brecon Beacons which is quite you know unforgiving at times, the weather can be changed just like that soak in wet one minute and dry the next minute, trying to find some wetter holder where the dogs won't find you and they have a hunter force, depending who it is, they have a hunter force that chases you they've got all the kit, they've got the Land Rover's, they've got this, that and the other you get an A to B, you've got to make that rendezvous point such and such, you haven't got a map so safe for you being chased and they've got all the kit, you know they've got all the radios, everything you generally paired up with somebody and off you go and every now and then you'll meet an agent if you make that contact and it'll give you a sandwich, okay um if you didn't make the come, you didn't get the sandwich but the farmers are all briefed okay they're told that there's an exercise on and if they see anybody they have to report it so you've got them as the local what would be the bad guys in reality if you're escaping so you've got them out there playing their game as well so once again i can laugh at it now i can see myself in that grade code soaking wet filthy you find somewhere you're not allowed into farms you're not allowed in, you could sneak in, you're not allowed in because come and search and the farmer will get you and you know dogs you know sniff the German shepherds and stuff you know they're all part of the hunter force and you had to escape and evade and then when they catch you eventually i didn't get caught, quite a few people didn't get caught, some did but they take you in then once you've picked up obviously you have to hand yourself in at some stage and then they take you back having been worn down again after all that time and then they put you through the interrogation phase, different interrogators you know asking you questions obviously all you're allowed to do is get a number rank and name and date of birth that's it it's any more and generally that's against the rules so some people failed that as well so you but you don't know how long you're going to be blindfolded you don't know how long anything you just don't know and then one time they come up and say right this is no duff you know you're finished so either you pass or fail but you don't know you know so you go off to the next hurdle you know and then somebody will work out you know case pass that and so you can go on to the next phase and so on so it's all difficult it's all mine games but you have to go above that and you know I did mine some people as I say they said too much speaking to interrogators and really that's the way you've got to play the game you know and if you look at it that way you know that's the only way to do it was what was it like for you when you passed when I passed yeah did you feel I sort of really know the the guys I passed with actually we had quite a good bond together when you've been through that with a certain amount of guys you see them on the outside dwindling to and you've got the guys that are left to this day some of us are still good friends there's a lot of we have been and gone you know passed away and stuff but when I passed it then go back to then it was great because at the end when you actually knew that you had passed you never knew anything if you turned up the next day for training you knew you hadn't failed they didn't come up to you at the end of the day and say okay you passed the day it's okay nothing like that so you've got to you know that you're being watched by experienced instructors all the time waiting for a false move but when you actually pass and they're told okay such is such you've passed then that's such a relief and most of the guys I knew at the time just went out and got pissed basically had a laugh at me all that weight comes off your shoulder so it's just it's a different feeling because you've seen you know to say with some people that were masochist this no it's not that you've done it for a reason but now you know you've finally got there and only when you get there can you actually go you know and really let yourself go of it and that's what that's exactly what happened you know with me and most of my mates that's what happened so seeing you pass SCS selection does things automatically just change within or are you straight and how does it work do you get rest or are you ready for operations how does it all work yeah I mean I got through November 77 because I didn't have to do the parachute course because you had done it at the very end because I'd already done that so you got you're asked what squadron you want to go to I think most people who asked for the squadron that they wanted got that choice and whatever they asked for so it's quite accommodating um not always but I got what I wanted um a few of my friends got what the same guys they got what they wanted so that helped and then when you think you know I've never said anybody who passes selection is an SCS soldier and to this day I still say that because you know like a tradesman has to go and do his trade with somebody you know I'm a electrician right you son you won't work with him for such a such get a big experience so I just thought well I passed but I'm not going to go around saying you know I am the big I am you know and didn't work like that so when I went to be a squadron the following day the guys that went to be a squadron were introduced to the already members of be a squadron some of them been there a couple years some of them been there one year some of them been there eight nine years so they're all stuck there and you're introduced you know just come off selection such a such you're in that troop you're in that troop four troops in the squadron mobility troop air troop mountain troop and boat troop so I got mobility troop which for me was great exactly what I wanted once you introduce there's no fine anything is the sergeant major says right you you you us the new guys go over to the core master store get your bearing belt and come back that's it there's no the well done there's nothing so you guys get over to the core master store pick up your bearing belts come back and tell you what's going on that was November December obviously we had the break because you always do Christmas break getting ready for the following year whatever was going to catch up the following year so that was it that's your introduction a quick nice names rusty such a such beat and then and that's it off you go you go over the in the core master look ship and down the line yeah bearing belt not handed to you just just chopped on the cap to pick up and go back you take your bearing back you shape it put it in water make sure it's not sticking out here you know um put your kit on and go back and join the squadron from there on in you're integrated into your troops and then you power the squadron how many's were in the squadron how many's were in the squadron um in my day yeah I don't know what it is I don't follow them these days but in my day all together you'd be looking at about four troops maybe 60 then you're having fewer attached arms like scalies well improvement scalies we call them but signals attached and so on a hand which you need they're they're good guys and you would be looking at a squadron strength of 50 if you had more than 15 in a troop I suppose you were doing really well because there wasn't that many numbers in my day you know so you have four squadrons of 15 in a troop that would give you what 15 30 64 240 guys throughout the regiment you know of all the other ones on the outside have been then got different jobs throughout um so that's how that went so see when you're you've passed election I know there's some things you can talk about some things you can um what was the first kind of mission or operation you can talk about you went on um well my first one in 78 was northern Ireland over there for six months how was that it's okay um the certain stuff you can talk about and can't and basically um the northern Ireland side of it is it was in those days quite interesting working alongside different units working alongside the police were doing different types of jobs want going specifics uh undercover work all that type of stuff you should expect so that was the first six months um five months altogether basically but you'd spend them three weeks training um and get over there what was it like it was at the first team you'd seen people bombings and shittings and people dying no no no no i'd seen them in the early 70s so you're used to it then yeah yeah um i've seen it when you know we did the bell fast when I was in 49 and the commandos yeah I didn't do the full tour being 49 I did a couple of tours that was um the city centre if you remember back in the early 70s the the the bombings and stuff that were going on especially in the bell fast city centre in the markets area um the shootings and stuff quite more or less first to respond along with the place because that was the the job was a city centre and of course that's when I had the old segments up in the city centre security all over the place but there was always bombings and stuff in those days so that was my introduction to it really so when I went after that different circumstances different unit different jobs did you feel different being in the sas than you did in the commandos do you see things differently you're more aware more paranoid or whatever does things get heightened because of the stuff that you've then learned in the sas yeah I mean you're always walking around to this day I'm walking around looking you know it's something when you're looking over your shoulder all the time and being trained and going through operation it's something that doesn't leave you you know you walk out you know it's just strange because it's what you're looking for and the unknown you know it's well trained as you are you're still looking at everything figuring out what's going on around you different surroundings different different people certain individuals to look out for so all of that is all part and parcel of it and that's where you have to really be on top of it to make sure that you know if push comes to shove you've got the upper hand what did you do after that no the ones after that were the sas ones yeah which would be northern island with different parts to be covered by different people so mine was pretty much north northern Ireland um up the top end on you know up that end yeah where did you go after northern island um different um deserts jungles what is that like going from cold weather to warm weather are you prepared for that so it doesn't really matter or let me just say this when we did the forklift islands in 1982 we were in jungle fatigue camouflage there was no there was nothing they didn't change the kidney equipment you went down there um in what you were using in the jungle there's somehow eventually they got some goatech stuff you know the goatech jackets they got some of that stuff sent to us but your key you had in the jungle was the same kid you had in the forklift islands you know and it's it's cold down there it it's really cold so the difference is you're lovely and warm in one place sweating all day long the other way you're freezing you know what you're freezing to death um because it is that cold what was it like and uh days up um yeah it does it you know they they tried to learn us to speak arabic and so you could train with the it was like cross training you know different um their units with our units um doing different desert scenarios and stuff so that was quite quite interesting but it was normally it was the desert of our man which is very kind to the uk forces for the training facility sultan of our man special forces and stuff a lot of them back then were xsas cars when they finished so they were very good setup um way back then how did they are any name we say rescue missions that because were you were you known as a man with no gloves or something that that's it what as the what was that well it's in the book but actually um it started in the 30th of april 1980 he finished on 5th of may 1980 and with the resolution should we say but the fact is that like everybody else i'm all gloves all the time however after the six day siege when we were going to do the resolution i was sat watching the snooker in next door in the in the um royal college of general practitioners so i was sat in there watching the snooker when we got the final call to go and rescue the remaining 19 hostages predominantly always took my gloves off and put them down my body armour but when i went down to sit down that once to watch the tv because cliff thalburn was playing alex higgins in the farm of the embassy world championship quite a few of us were interested in snooker used to play whatever went abroad whenever we could so i was sat there watching it and got the call by then i was a team leader of blue team i was going to lead the assault so i got outside after they um executed the hostage i got outside and realized we was going into position then my gloves weren't down there i'd left them on the table so i was watching snooker i was the only time i didn't put them down my body armour i got outside and we got into position and then i realized but the picture that's in the book and the other pictures you'll see a picture of me taken by the police snipers with a guy with no gloves in the middle well that was me um so that's how i got the name rusty firm in the man with no gloves because everybody else in the team had their gloves on people must have thought he must be a man faster with no gloves yeah and it was caught in the group my group like that with the weapon with no gloves on but you can beat your life i wasn't going to go back to pick the gloves up to go back out again so that's how that's how that came about do you get in trouble for that how's it not not a big issue it nobody knew until the pictures arrived okay and um nobody really knew because it's not like today you know zoom is across the world in five seconds in those days in 1980 um they weren't interested in rusty firmin they were interested in the assault that was been shown on tv you've seen it probably a hundred times you know the front on the balcony and all that type of stuff how was at the back door with my team ready to go in through the library which we did so nobody would have seen that until later because it was never broadcast however once the pictures became available which i've got um it was quite obvious that the police snipers had taken the pictures and it was the police who gave me the photos when we went to school in the yard um a little bit later on we made statements and stuff of what happened and who did want so on um that's when it really became to life that it was me um that was at least a year later that i'd found out i knew i didn't have the gloves on but it wasn't broadcast anywhere so that's how that happened how was that getting trying to rescue 19 people because did they already they killed a hostage as well did they not yeah they they killed lavashoni lavashoni was the iranian pressure tashi or a young lad um and he was the pressure tashi but he was sticking his chest out inside to the um the six terrorists because what they were doing he didn't agree with it so cut a long story short um what they did is they took him down and put him tied him to the the banister inside the arena emsy inside the front door they tied him there and then faizal the second in command of the terrorists we didn't know that at the time this is afterwards faizal was the one who having done that we were we were ready to go but we weren't in position when the shots were heard bang bang bang three shots nobody still knew if there was a shooting in the inside the embassy they heard the shots let's be honest without proof of murder in my day without proof of murder maggie thatcher yes the three definite shots but nobody was there to say or they've killed somebody so it was still a waiting game for us because if it had just been somebody firing three shots into the ceiling as a bit of a come on as they call it let's see what happens if you fire a few shots eh well it wasn't because the terrorists then took lavissani out the front door and dumped his body on the step and as soon as he did that there's a couple of police guys went down with the stretcher to pick him up that was proof of murder on uk so maggie thatcher give us the because don't forget this was still a met police operation okay we were there to back up the police not a lot of people know that that's a fact so the police had dealt with it all the way through now we've got the body dumped on the step outside maggie thatcher um obviously prime minister it was then decided that the met police would hand over the operation to the sas that was done on the scruffy all bit of paper signed over you now have control and with that we were informed the teams that we were going to go and rescue the hostages nobody knew what else was going to happen but we had proof of murder so we all go into the position took 16 minutes to get into position covertly we didn't want to alert them if you could remember they just killed somebody it took us 16 minutes top of the building bottom of the building balcony back door all the surrounding area and then when we got the go go go it took 11 minutes from start to finish for our two teams the red and blue team peace squadron to enter the building and rescue the hostages at that stage there was 26 originally some had been let out one had been killed there was 19 hostages remaining so our job was to go in and the mission was to rescue the hostages that was a mission rescue the hostages once we got that we entered simultaneously all over the building it took 11 minutes to clear 56 rooms um the five terrorists died one terrorist got out 19 hostages were saved so the mission was achieved and that took 11 minutes to start to finish was that when because no one knew who the sas was that correct because that then it became world news that the sas what you were all about was that true or do people already know no no the i mean i've been in the sas three years before i realized where it was that's um that is true people had heard about the sas but that operation is said to be the most iconic um sas rescue operation especially to be filmed and on new case all did you feel extra pressure on that because they'd killed someone as well yeah what would happen if they'd killed someone else when news were coming through the windows in the doors would you have got fucked for that well you never know because you know it's amazing these days they stay in age but what i'll say is that in that day after six days waiting the guys were like coral springs you know let me go let's do something you know um and that's exactly what happened we were allowed to go and do we were told to go and do it and we did it and the the question he asked about the um is this when it the forefront the sas come from there to there it was like a benchmark if you if you like he raised the benchmark and people all over the uk had witnessed what had gone on so there's a new camp built much more heightened security than ever before because in the old days you could go in the front door of the camp as a civilian walk through it walk out the back door in the old camp but now is you know but my day after that siege that's when it everything was signed see if you's got and full control of the siege in day one would you's have done the exact same on day one um we'd have waited until i mean it was see what people don't realize is they got what they came for massive publicity all over the world but then had they just put their hands up and walked out they would have been arrested and probably gone to jail for 30 years um so as the the one guy that did get out you know um so he got out alive but got imprisoned for 30 years and got out after 28 years they would have got the same but instead of that they had to execute somebody go that step further but they didn't need to because all they ended up doing was getting five of them killed one of them arrested and we got all the hostages out all 19 of them so it didn't yes it got them a lot of publicity but it didn't do them any good you know and they didn't go exactly the same publicity anyway but i've got to say that the leader um it wasn't um it looks like he wasn't a strong character of the terrorists i'm talking about um you know and that's custom see when you are going through that then see when did you feel the dat in hands who used where did or did you just feel the same with the world news and being heroes and did that make you feel any different or was it just because what the scs do is it just you don't really feel for call no i mean basically um we took a stroll back to camp you know that night the fifth of may afterwards spoken to Maggie Thatcher come to say thank you well done along with um Dennis Wildwell uh Dennis Thatcher sorry Maggie Thatcher William Wildwell the home secretary they come to say thank you over at Regions Park Barracks after that guys with their vehicles two or three would go off that way that way and just take a nice easy drive back to Herodford no flashing lights no nothing and um i've tried to find it lately there's a cafe on the 417 it was a it was a burger bar basically in those days and we just stopped down the way back and had a cup of coffee and tea or whatever burger and then rolled into camp had a hill one o'clock in the morning two o'clock in the morning so i can't put the vehicles away turned up the next day so but when we turned up the following day we had a couple of days off um you know so i come out i think it was two two days off you know lay hair down a bit um that's exactly what we did do you get extra pay for doing stuff like that or is it just monthly all the same no i think Maggie Thatcher i think she'd give us a pay rise a year later but actually no it's a day job isn't it you know you volunteer for it um so it's really a day job and you don't get any extra pay not at all did you get a buzz did you get a buzz like butterflies or a buzz that you're going to do some mad shit um or does that again are you just calling to it now i don't get like that really um are you taught not to show any nerves or any fear i don't at the time i don't know anybody who is yeah basically six days is a long time to hang about no sleep a bit of sleep if you you can't take your kit off here you know i didn't shower um so you got all your kit all the time smelly nice stuff you got your weapon in there the arms length right beside you um you got your gas mask there the rest of the kit is on you just in case um we did have two teams so we could have a break couldn't go anywhere what we could say a break is 12 hours on standby at 12 hours because there was two teams but we were right next door we were in 14 15 princess gay the reigning embassy is 16 princess gay so that there was quite good so if we got the go you could be out of there next door as i said very quickly so you just watch snooker um and prepared for whatever you can only prepare yourself somebody so much um and the ironic thing was that day the bank holiday monday fifth of may i was supposed to be playing football for westfield for all club in herford in a cup final but the guy who was playing for andy his brother stood in for me and scored the winning goal my brother that is a god's honest fact so i'd missed a cup final but i was seen by millions on tv because of what happened how do you handle fear do you become do you become fearless or do you still feel it at times no i do a talk on um harnessing fear um i think it's fair to say i'm not frying it very much and if i am i don't know what it is because i'm not like that um this stuff i've done some of it been quite hairy but i tend not to dwell on it i know that when i jumped out that helicopter into the south of the hercules into the south atlantic the valkland ovens conflict i know that when i jumped out there into the raging some freezing cold sea hoping to be picked up i remember thinking i've just flown all the way from ascension island refueled a couple of times in midair i just want to get out of this aircraft so when we go into the you know jumped in it was a snow storm couldn't see the sea then you could see then you couldn't see it i'm thinking i'm hoping somebody's going to pick me up out the south atlantic along with the other guys in the squadron people say well that must be well it was but because i had to do it i just wanted to get it over the thoughts of what happened afterwards you're like fuck i didn't really do that and that's how i handled it it's um it's strange but it's fair to say there's not a lot that i'm bothered about maybe some people say you're mad i'm getting older okay i've got people around me that help and they've got good ideas which i still listen to even though they think i don't um but i do um but i'm always making my mind up i'm thinking you know what if what if um would have been in the ss really if i wasn't going to do something i've never been asked to do anything that i haven't done i think that says it never do you get a mo the other cry when you're in the ss get emotional to study this now cried after the ss i don't remember crying in it unless we were lost a game of football people dying left right and said i'll not have fucking tears shed no but what i can say is we never lost many games of football i can tell you that um but no seriously um not not while i was serving sometimes um you know um when you think back and you have these flashbacks and stuff and you think what could have been you know but it wasn't it wasn't going to be my day you know it's somebody else's day you know we lost all those guys in one helicopter crash into volklans there's 19 of them i think huge loss really good ss guys and attached all gone like that it wasn't my turn to be in that helicopter but it could have been what's it like to lose brothers um i've lost a lot and i'll be honest with you in the last two days i was just saying earlier there's another three gone in two days so i have to think well rather good times and we're all in that order one day in the cheer day so you have to do you know give them the best end off you can remember the good times because they're not going to come back but still think there are some good times around the corner might be the different way different light but they're there if you can make them so it's not a nice feeling and i would think probably um i've lost more than maybe i don't know i'm not being facetious maybe all of you together you know good quality you know gone yeah you're going to get that though especially seven nearly 30 years you're going to see so much torment misery and pain when was what's your most closest you've ever been to being killed yourself i'm not quite sure really because you don't know what's around the corner um or what you've just missed but you know you've you've turned up late or later when somebody's jumped through a window or if you look at it like now shot out um you don't know where the bullet's gone so that's only happened to me um one okay two occasions one of them in northern Ireland but actually it's i don't know is the answer to that no to give you a correct answer i'm not quite sure but when you look at what you've done and other people that have been killed on it you're only around the corner from it you don't know you could have been part of that you know if you were two minutes earlier three minutes later so that's really the you know it's i tend not to look back on it but once i've been there and done that i'm looking forward to what's next but i'll never forget the kind of stuff i know and have lost and some of them how they've gone you know um and laughing and joking one minute and you bought me the sea in the next minute what's the hardest part of being a soldier you know i keep saying my day because i've seen the ways changed the army so today i've got no idea back then the hardest part i remember i wanted to play football i ended up in the sas i ended up in the team there that took out the embassy and saved the hostages and i think to keep the discipline and keep respect the best you can from those around you is very difficult because you know i know guys have been they've got thrown out even when they've been in the regiment for three years you know they've done something wrong and been booted out um when you think i might have done that myself some time but i'm lucky i never got caught you know it works like that it's the same in any walk of life so i think discipline and again keeping respect and credibility to try and keep them certainly when you're serving is a big key to everything really you need them guys you work with in difficult situation dangerous situation you know that you have to rely on them they know that you have to rely sorry that i have to rely on them but they have to rely on me because you normally work in small teams so that i think and i'm talking about maybe different than being in the artillery but i've been there and i've done that i've been the ss and done that and certainly at the top end of the tree no disrespect to anybody else but at the top end of the tree the ss you know you'll be found out if you don't come up to the mark and if you get found out you're gone yeah you talk about the top end of the tree the ss of the elite but being at the top comes a great deal of sacrifice how hard is it for loved ones and relationships to then because you've got how do you block all that out to try and do a job come home safe to then the worry that everybody else has around you to make sure you're going to be okay well i would just say that i was a soldier first okay and you know if you're a soldier you're expected to do things they're not run of the mill day to day stuff so you should be in a position to for me to block it out you know when i went to the falcons i didn't know if i was coming back but my son was only six weeks old so just don't know how do you switch that off sorry how do you switch that off then to try and do the job and stay focused to then not worrying about possibly never seeing your son again well it's hard to say how you switch it off but if you remember i was on about mentality this part here i still believe if you haven't got that mentality you're in the wrong job so when you as i say when you do this you have the falcons for example you doing it because you pay to do a job to help to try and protect others so to switch off you don't switch off totally but you have to think what am i here to do i can't say oh i might get hurt i'm going to go home it's not going to work like that you have to go and do the job and then hope that everything goes okay what's it like to take a life um not pleasant but at least as long as it's not me taking my own life you have to put it with it do you see a lot of suicide and with soldiers yeah i've seen a lot yeah um SAS cars as well yeah it's not pleasant because you know them and then you just wonder what could have been done if maybe the warning signs you see not so much when you're serving but when the cars come out you just another number next you've done your bit you've saved you 27 years next it's a conveyor belt and it's not nice i know quite a few of hung themselves you know i'm jumped out of an aircraft with no parachute on purpose to kill them you know i know all this i've seen it could they've been helped who knows is help available well it might be in certain forms but certainly i don't know it's ever been volunteered you know and people have had to put up with that it's just strange that you have to be able to deal with it in your mind does party ever feel used uh oh yeah yeah but more than that i've seen other people used he's just you know yeah when you're in there the SAS specialised areas you feel when you come out you might still be special in certain ways but there wasn't anybody really give a toss about what you go up to you know we do a lot of homeless stuff in Glasgow the majority of men who are on the streets are ex-military well i'm a patron of three charities unpaid one of them is a homeless veterans project in Scotland Donna and um Alex they they run that they asked me to become a patron for them i've done a few events and stuff um you know so i know what you're saying and i've worked with them and i was also an ambassador for pilgrim bandits all the amputees i did lots of events for them to help raise money in the early days so i'm also a patron for the Victoria cross trust you know and um a veteran 180 they're all veterans and a lot of them are injured and it's to help to try and give them a life back together to make them feel they're still part society you know there's nothing worse than being cast aside well these guys are helping them all the time so in my own time that's what i've done and i get paid for it but that's what i do see being a soldier for nearly 30 years ready to die for your country putting yourself in the front line what do you think of wars now that you've got a bit older is it a still same mentality you're there to do a job or do you look at things a bit differently if probably i'd known what was going to happen to this country i signed on as i said 15 and then slowly it's not a country i like anymore that's all how so because of what's happening i'm i'm not racist but with this immigration stuff and everything i'd put my life on the line for my people they've come here they take the slots about people's soldiers on the streets they get the accommodation they get this they get that hours are still running around trying to take anything that's given to them you've seen that bibby barge and stuff oh they're so good enough for us our guys would have that gladly soldiers on the streets so me don't want to come here you know what let's start a new unit let's put them all in the unit and say right go and fight for this country let's see how much comes out of that i'll tell you something not a lot okay brand new mobile phones bank accounts our soldiers haven't got that do you think brenton's getting weaker brenton with the i don't know what to make of it it's so bad the leadership we haven't got how many prime ministers we had in the last couple of years it's all about themselves all about themselves they look after each other and the rest sorry let them fend but they can't do enough for these the immigration that's going on they want a mixed race society by 2030 okay how did the world world what do you call it economic forum why do they want rid of a billion people in this country not this country in the world to get it down to something like 800 million depopulize why is that easier to control exactly so why are they using chemtrails in the sky you the chemtrails you know what they're about of course yeah the country needs to wake up it's already too late by the way but you know what you might be able to help to save something the country is absolutely screwed totally yeah but they don't even now they don't even want many anymore they're trying to take away masculinity they're trying to promote fucking trans movement they're trying to weaken man they're trying to weaken people more already they're fucking weak and people are soft or not because the power of the people is so fucking strong yeah people unite they can fight against anybody that's what i wouldn't doesn't happen no what have i been saying it doesn't happen no i still go you know and tell people you know that this is going on you know everything you know the the challenge trafficking everything that's the biggest i'm on all of it but you know what you can mention it on tv but instead of them coming up with this um the stories they'll mention it but they'll never go into it no they'll mention it and deflect it with another shaggy story yeah yeah yeah and that's what you know that's exactly what goes on you want to stop the immigration put me in charge of it i'll do exactly what the Aussies do and it's work for them they won't do that so well and braverman has got no idea it comes up with words and fancy not just her by the way all of them one after another talk talk talk change the politics change change you know what are you telling me that this country could defend itself against the Germans as we did in the second world war we can't stop so Mickey Mouse guys coming across in you know um rubber boats now you turn them around he's taken back the fact is that it's everywhere so they're flooding the market and saying oh well you know um no the bad weather's coming which is a godsend i hope um and then they're winching wine when a boat gets turned over i've read something yes that there was 800 thousand coming to your UK to start that war yeah well there probably is because whether it's 800 000 or the fact is my me you see the floating barges and they then put them into the hotels and so on and they build in extra prison camps yeah yeah if i'm not mistaken that's going to be the likes of us that go in the prison camps in the barges and they'll take over they'll have the mixed race which is what they want and they have the controllers that's clownish swabbing the rest of them at the top i think about it that way yep the vaccines how many people have gone why do they want rid of all those people they've already said it then that's not hidden they want the world population to be down by 8 billion by 2030 of course million percent that leaves you 800 800 000 world population at the moment is 8.8 billion something like that you look at bulgates he's not he's not a fucking doctor no he's buying the poor the land isn't he he stays why is he buying the land it's fucking scary and people think you're a conspiracy theorist but that goes as deep as conspiracies what they need to do is they need to wake up okay and say you know what why would anybody say that as a conspiracy theory it's not he is actually happening that's the they don't want to believe it control you've seen all this stuff down on um you know the the the 5g yeah 5g don't you know anything about that yeah right they've got all the 5g right oh your computer now got never got nothing to do with that it's got to deal with control 50 minute cities trust me why are those lampposts 30 meters apart they're about because it's it's only with the little aerials on the top yeah everything is about control 20 mile an hour now in wales all the villages control all the motorways 50 miles controlling you making you do electric electric cars if there's electric cars if there's electric cars they can shut you down anything you know where they've got electric cars electric is free you know that they're charged electrics in the air it's free so they've got electric cars the whole law if you can just get the people to actually wake up and say christ you know it's not conspiracy and before long it's going to be just too late and that's the problem because it's already very late but all the people are lining their own nests all of them they're okay because they'll be the ones that survive did you ever feel now that you're seeing things differently do you look back and feel as if you were part of the system yeah because you're just a number who's been then controlled conditioned to the one program to do yeah who you fighting for when you question it they're bringing in people and they they have no clue who they are so it was in charge of our borders because the people are bringing in they don't know what do you think needs to change well the whole of the establishment and you know at the moment i don't know what can change now because it's so late in the day um but it's funny you don't see many if any people who've led properly you know maybe ex officers of some form have got to be a knowledge of the world it strikes me you know i'm i say i'm not racist but you've only got to look at all the tv football presenters and rugby and this and the other changed it to all female you know and the color side of it why is that if you're good enough for the job you have the job yeah just try to normalize everything is going down the same route as they wanted to do everything you know and that if that doesn't change it's never going to change but it's the schooling system from the day you're born things are all backwards everything is backwards from cutting in bellico cord that buff yeah from giving people a name a religion a team to support us all labels you're giving you're born under artificial light you're born some mothers drugged up kids are coming out drugged up so and then you've got the schooling system and then you've got universities where you're paying money to do degrees to then go and work for the big corporations they don't want free thinkers they don't want individuality what you think for yourself and look outside the box and think fuck me what is going on because if you do that the in question knows in power i'll try to change the system with a bringing fucking consensual sex down transgender people speaking nursery stories to kids they're just trying to normalize mad shit it's not none of it is normal yeah you know and what they're trying to do is make it that that as well i think is actually a bit of a diversion as well into what's going on because they aren't doing anything about it apart from but the police dancing in the street when they should be on duty with people with funny colours you know yellow red purple i mean what's all that about you know so the whole thing is it's beyond repair and we haven't got the right people at all in my opinion we haven't got the right people in power at all when did you start looking into all that um probably i've always had a bit of an interest but um probably the best part of three years probably the best part of two and a half to three years spending some time looking into it and why and you probably saw um which is a good film mel Gibson's new film do you ever seen that oh yeah yeah yeah um i can tell it's been dubbed taken out because all the other stuff with the child's sound of sound of freedom but it's bow and it's hasn't it yeah tim bellard yeah yeah and we watched that um a couple of weeks ago but i knew you know i nearly i nearly sent a letter or an email to mel Gibson because i used to work with him to say well done but i know they've taken stuff out of that film you know about the adrenochrome and stuff yeah yeah they've taken it out because you can tell by the length of the film and how long it is actually the tell you how long the film is about 20 odd minutes missing off it and i went to see the other wig and that that would really spook people yeah but they say the world's run by fucking satanic evil it is devil worshipers we had a woman on yesterday and the names that she was mentioning who are involved in the red rooms in london and the shit that they do towards kids and the people sitting on these fucking news channels and presenters that have been at the top of their games for 20 years it's unbelievable there's some dark shit and they talk about russell brands i don't have the answers about russell brand um i don't know much about yeah and the girls have spoken i would never discredit any survivor that comes forward but um anybody can make you accusations about any man that doesn't mean for a call now it destroys lives media destroy lives trial by media yeah russell brand is speaking about mad shit now he's exposing a lot of things about the vaccine and big companies and energies and that's what it is the farmers companies biggest organization on the planet yeah and the ukraine wars i said the other day is the biggest money laundress since covid 19 and he is yeah they've took billions he is was it we're going to recede by the way i don't think so so it is what do you think of the ukraine war what do i think roll on pew then he seems to be doing a lot for his country oh man well if you have a look if you have a look at what's going on in ukraine underground have a look at that what do you think of it when you look back and see like gadaffi being killed well gadaffi yeah same as they do with um saddam yeah yeah exactly the same devalue the dollar one of them devalue in the us dollar in both cases at least saddam at that time this is one of my it's not a theory it's one of the things i've talked about is that at the time they used the scud missiles didn't they as a big excuse remember their weapons of master's throat in this good missile there it was none right so the only way they could do anything because of the thread i think saddam was going to use his own money wasn't he was going to do something he was coming away from the dollar yeah that's when they got spooky that's when they went and done what they did and eventually they killed him same to some degree with gadaffi they couldn't have that so if you look at it that way it makes common sense at least saddam they knew him they knew how to work him but actually they couldn't have that happen what do you think life is um well first of all um if i knew i was going to live this long had i looked after myself right that's the first thing but seriously it's not my life i'm worried about i've gotten here why i'm worried about is the likes of the younger generation coming up having their kids i don't want to say it but i'm gonna in my opinion their life is going to be terrible if they've got kids coming through with seriously you won't see you know it's it's not somewhere um you know i'd like to think look at this in 20 years time after 2030 you know the great reset they called it you've heard of the great reset of course yeah so after the great reset which happened 200 years and people go away on about it just us and who built the houses upon them with the tools they had all those years ago how could that be possible you get one come on the great reset is every 200 years the reason it's every 200 years is why because any man female anything isn't going to live to 200 to tell the tale okay so you have the great reset 2030 big deal world economic forum what a bunch they are um and they're the ones who are laying out all this stuff for the future all of them you know clout swab and the rest of them you know um and i honestly believe that i wouldn't i feel so sorry for the people coming through you know would you advise anybody to have kids just because of the mixed race stuff um i wouldn't as simple as that because what's around the corner can be horrific it's too late what you need is you need a whole plan of us to stand up and take this to the highest level and just make as many people listen to it you possibly can why do you think people aren't standing up though not as much not as many as people should because it's sheep mentality you've got leaders who lead okay and then you've got the sheep mentality once she goes that way they'll go that way because they're not wide awake until they're waking up as i said earlier it can't possibly change because it needs to be awake to go down that system not follow the leader sorry to our leaders but the lead sheep that 50 of them go that way and one goes that way that's the black sheep of the family right so he's gone that way making the correct decision that's what they're doing control talked about it earlier control control control once they control you you'll do anything for them what they say that's what they want good boy on the head off you go that's what they want too many people don't know and as they flood the country if they don't know a lot of them can't speak english you can't do anything so those are coming in they'll take over you won't see um and then it will be too late because of the vast amount as you say what you told me before we've gone on in ireland and stuff i know that it's a tester it's a tester you won't see that's a test this place will follow it's been bigger than ireland let's test it out and see what happens here trust me when did you read your book trusty 2010 for the go go go that was for the 30th anniversary of the siege that one 2017 the regiment um and as you know that one's been made into a film go go go six days jamie bell plays me in the film then the other one um my life up until leaving the army 1992 does it bring back a lot of emotion i did at the time yeah i did at the time um because memories i'm lucky that i've still got a memory um you know sometimes you wish you hadn't because i can remember some really fine detail of stuff and i'll find that you know um it's interesting but actually sometimes you do think you know um that it's a real change you know um of course lately mezzou she's been a great help good mind and um you know we're on the same wavelength that's the main thing but we're only part of it if you could get that nucleus and some of the guys at the top you know they know what's going on yeah and if you could just manage to crack that and make some more people aware what's actually going on have you heard of the dum's underground as they need to be aware you know you don't get that many kids 100 000 in the us can't remember how many in the uk going missing every year how did they get reported but when do you ever see that written anywhere you don't it just isn't there that's a lot of people to go missing a year with no reports there is um but nobody's bothered about it nobody because it's a big business though it's one of the biggest businesses it's taking over drugs yeah yeah and you know that's what you know what the dum's are how do they travel underground like that they're not traveling overground somebody would find them it's underground where do you go forward for the future rusty um well we're looking at this on some maybe a charity out um which we've talked about for quite a long time um i've got some other stuff in the pipeline totally away from the security side and stuff we just that's gone along as we as we talk right now for a change and still trying to help you know the charities i'm involved in and of course anything like we just talked about last that is a big interest i talk about it quite a lot i mentioned into people some people know about it and it's okay but in the main you know um i've been i've i've i've i've just been doing talk in america uh over in texas i've got another one san diego december i've got another one back texas again in uh april next year and we've got some feelers out at the moment you know america look after their veterans okay britain don't look after the veterans yeah and i'm so impressed the way america is i'd build there tomorrow rusty all the best for the future all right in there take care of yourself