 You may remember this distressing video going viral in 2018. Now in that clip you saw Jamar Hijazi then 15 being pushed to the ground and threatened with drowning. Hijazi and his family had come to the UK as refugees from Oms in Syria. It was obviously a horrible welcome for a schoolboy fleeing war. It was made worse when Stephen Yaxley Lennon, otherwise known as Tommy Robinson, made a Facebook video claiming Jamal was not innocent and violently attacks young English girls in his school and that he had, quote, beat a girl black and blue, unquote. Hijazi claimed that Yaxley Lennon's video led him to be subject to death threats and extremist agitation. And this week he successfully sued the far right activist for libel. Mr Justice Nicklin found that as was entirely predictable, the claimant became the target of abuse, which ultimately led to him and his family having to leave their home and the claimant to have to abandon his education. The defendant is responsible for this harm, some of the scars of which particularly the impact on the claimant's education are likely to last for many years, if not a lifetime. Yaxley Lennon had fought the case on the grounds that what he had said was true or his claim was that what he said was true. This was rejected by the judge. The judge said, I am satisfied that if the claimant had behaved so repeatedly in the abusive manner alleged, including to members of staff, then this would have been recorded in the claimant school records. There is no trace of any such behavior by the claimant in these records. On the contrary, his behavioral record is overwhelmingly positive. So he's saying Tommy Robinson's claims do not stack up. And they also caused an incredible amount of harm. He said the language used in the videos was calculated to inflame the situation. Robinson has been ordered to pay damages to Hijazi of £100,000. He is also liable to pay his legal fees, which the BBC reports were around half a million pounds. Tommy Robinson has since declared bankruptcy. A horrible story. The consequences of Tommy Robinson sharing those lies was incredibly horrible. You're a 15-year-old kid. You've already been bullied by people in a country you've just moved to after fleeing civil war. Then you get death threats from far-right activists because Tommy Robinson has made up stuff about you on Facebook. The payout to the families of £100,000, I don't think that touches what's happened to them. I don't think that goes anywhere near compensating them. On the other hand, if Tommy Robinson hasn't even got that, then what difference does it make? As I understand it, their legal costs are also around half a million pounds. So Robinson also would have to pay that. He was already in financial trouble before this. Again, as I understand it, I don't want to say things aren't true because I don't want to do what Tommy Robinson has done. But from what has been said in the media, what's been written in the media, marital problems and so on and so forth. And what really, like you say, what really hammered him was before this, it was changes to the Facebook algorithm because that's what really took away his prominence and his profile, the fact that he was blacklisted effectively from Twitter, from Facebook, from Instagram. Without social media, he hasn't got any means to sell his product, which is hate, which is himself. And so he was a busted flush before this. But I do really feel sorry for the family because I don't think 100,000 pounds is such a size. I really don't. This young kid had to leave school. It's obviously had a massive impact on his education, his mental health. This has been going on for more than a year. His family's already probably, they've probably all got PTSD from leaving Syria, fleeing civil war. I think it's appalling. I think it's really, really appalling. I think Tommy Robinson should be doing prison time personally. And I'm a prison abolitionist. I have no problem with Tommy Robinson going to prison, believe me. So I don't think it's a sufficient punishment. I really, really don't, Michael. And maybe some parts of the left might disagree with me for that. I really don't. What he did was so hateful and disgusting to people who'd been through so much. For me, this seems like inciting racial hatred. And clearly that's what happened. And I would have thought, especially this is about a minor, this is about a 15-year-old. It seems surprising to me that it's just a financial response. I think at this time, probably Tommy Robinson has less financial backers than he once did. But a couple of years ago, three years ago, he could have presumably called in money from, he had far-right backers in North America. Potentially that moment is over. And he has declared bankruptcy. But I think you're right. It does seem like he's, this seems like a light punishment from my perspective. Although a victory for the kid involved. Aaron, your final thoughts on this story? Yeah. I mean, his big financial backer came from Canada. There's a gentleman called Ezra Levant who's financed a bunch of alt-right media. And he was expanding over here. I suppose one sort of one sort of counter argument would be, yes, Tommy Robinson was huge in 2017, 2018. He was finding a huge audience. I remember in 2018, before he got banned, some of the analytics were just deeply disturbing. You know, on Facebook, Tommy Robinson was reaching a bigger audience than Facebook, than Labour, the Tories, Jeremy Corbyn, momentum Boris, you know, Boris and was Theresa May back then, basically all combined. So on the one hand, you know, that yes, the algorithm screwed him. But at the same time, like we have to remember that in this country in 2017, we had a high watermark for socialist politics. It just goes to show how politically volatile that moment was, really, both on the left and the right. And it was very much a case of, you know, there's the center ground of politics. The common sense was up for grabs. You know, has that changed significantly? I do think it's, I do think it's changed. But I also think many of those questions are settled. I think many of the parts of the sort of economic agenda of Corbyn and McDonald are now broadly the consensus of the public. I think the Tories have to at least acknowledge that. And I think that ultimately on the immigration stuff, you know, the left lost big time, big time, big time. And it expended huge amounts of capital because of chasing a second referendum. So Tommy Robinson didn't win. But I think many of his viewers, his supporters, you know, we did end up with the government and a set of policy outcomes that they are absolutely overwhelmingly pleased with.